Angela Levin: Duchess Kate’s ‘whole life is to make Prince William happy’

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The week of the inauguration, I missed this strange little royal story – apparently, the Queen has given the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge access to a second property on the Sandringham estate. Anmer Hall sits on the estate, and it’s only a humble eight-bedroom, fully renovated country abode. They clearly needed more space, so the Queen is letting them “use” Sandringham House, which is the big house (mansion) on the property. That’s where the Queen stays when she’s in residence at the private estate. It’s weird, right? Like, I had the impression that Anmer Hall is pretty spacious, but William and Kate apparently needed more space to “work” and “Zoom their fingers to the bone.” Either that or William and Kate are living separately – William in Sandringham House and Kate at Anmer Hall. Very curious. Also curious? Yet another article about how Kate is the savior of the monarchy. Her buttons have saved the nation!

The Duchess of Cambridge “saved” Prince William after his “dysfunctional” upbringing and has now dedicated her life to making him happy, a royal expert has claimed. Kate met her future husband at university and they were good friends before romance blossomed, and she is said to have been a huge support when he stepped into royal life.

Speaking on True Royalty TV ‘s Royal Beat, Angela Levin,author of Harry: Biography of a Prince, explains that William was going through a difficult time when he met Kate. She explains: “I think that Kate has helped save William. I think it was very difficult for him coming out of a dysfunctional family, losing his mum so young and I think he was in a very difficult place.”

Angela believes that since their wedding, Kate has worked hard to support William in his royal work but also helped him work out his own identity. She said: “She has really encouraged him. Her whole life is to make him happy, I think. She found things that really make him feel important and worthy rather than just going to cut ribbons. I think she has helped him to be a husband by introducing him to her own family a lot and spending time with a normal family and being a dad.”

[From The Daily Mirror]

Imagine saying “her whole life is to make him happy” like it’s a good thing. And while I believe Kate has doormat vibez, I actually don’t think her whole life is about making William happy at all. Maybe it was during their courtship, when she was still trying to get the ring. But once she got the ring, Kate’s life became about… maintaining her status, her place. Not being slavishly devoted to William’s every whim and desire.

The Mirror also did a summary of William and Kate’s early courtship at St. Andrews and royal reporter Simon Vigar insists that Kate “let her prince do all the chasing.” Vigar said: “When they were at university at St Andrews, I have it on good authority that one of the few girls not chasing William or trying to catch his eye was Catherine. If that’s true, she played an absolute blinder.” I think Kate did let William “chase” her, but to be clear, she had already spent the better part of three years throwing herself into his path and waiting for him to notice her. She did play it smart… for a stalker with a plan!

***File Photo***

HRH Prince William and Kate Middleton  at the Cheltenham Gold Cup Festival 2007 Day 1 , 13th March 2007

Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, WENN.

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  1. MerryGirl says:

    A true corner plant.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Like father like son.
      Charles to Camilla: Your greatest achievement in life is loving me.
      William to Kate: Your greatest achievement in life is sticking around for 10 years till you wore me down and I married you.

      • Mitzy says:

        After reading this and seeing a few of the accompanying photos I thought the same thing. He seems like a needy, self-important Charles.

        If you haven’t yet, listen to the podcast You’re Wrong About – Diana. Whew! Charles is a mess and William comes across as a chip off the old block.

      • UnionSnack says:

        God, I remember when I read this script for the first time. I for once thought that Charles is very, VERY egocentric and not the kind santa as he tries to show. And I was surprised how easily manipulated is he.

    • CC2 says:

      That Karen from dailywire mentioned she prefers Kate over Meghan because M is controlling.

      It’s one thing to like Kate more because of fashion, looks or perhaps even for her more introverted disposition.

      But whenever people praise Kate over Meghan as a wife, it’s a sure as hell sign that they are boring tradwife wannabes. Articles like this that shows Kate as a support figure rather than an individual feeds this.

    • Nerdista says:

      This is the most hilarious comment…

  2. Watson says:

    Cue “i was born to make you happy” by Britney Spears as the soundtrack to Kate’s whole existence.

  3. Sofia says:

    I mean, keeping William happy IS how she keeps her lifestyle. She keeps him happy, he doesn’t divorce her, she keeps her lifestyle. Otherwise he becomes incandescent with rage and could easily end it without thinking it through.

    • carmen says:

      Sadly, she could have had the same lifestyle if she had taken a similar path to her sister’s – lavish lifestyle, minimal scrutiny & obligations. Not to mention, sister’s husband is probably a better human being than William

      • Sofia says:

        The Midds want the titles AND the money/lifestyle.

        Even Pippa was looking for a titled man when she was in her 20s. It wasn’t until all of them said no that she went for James. Although he is richer than most of her exes, he’s not the titled man Pippa wanted. Although she looked very happy on her wedding day. Unless you’re counting his brought title which is NOT the same thing to the Dukes/Earls/Viscounts/Lords etc etc

      • Sandra says:

        I’d just like to say, personally, that if I got to live my days out lavishly in the Caribbean, and be able to afford to fly my parents in whenever I missed them, I’d be pretty damn happy. I’d pick Pippas life over Kate’s any day.

      • lili says:

        Sandra, maybe it makes me a bad person but I’d take the deal too. Pippa sort of disappeared. Did she do that on purpose?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Pips hasn’t disappeared. She’s been doing maskless pap strolls in London in the last few weeks. Girlfriend still wants to be famous.

      • dollycoa says:

        Pippas husband and his family are dodgy AF

      • candy says:

        Yeah, Pippa was very much pulling a Kate when it came to that Northumberland heir. Carol wanted a titled marriage for both.

    • Becks1 says:

      I would also pick Pippa’s life over Kate’s, but Pippa went for a titled husband first as well – but of course even a titled husband that made her a viscountess or whatever wouldnt bring with it the same scrutiny as being married to a royal does.

      That said – I agree with you Sofia and with Kaiser- Kate’s life IS about keeping William happy, but that’s how she maintains her position and her status, which is the bigger goal for her. She doesnt actually care if William is happy bc she loves him, she cares because William being happy keeps her secure in her role.

      • Sofia says:

        Completely agree. And I think Kate would love Pippa’s current lifestyle: pap strolls in London, the odd charity work but spend most of your days shopping and working out with absolutely zero scrutiny and not much press publicity.

        And I can also see the second point. Keeping William happy not because of love but because she’s keeping her eye on the prize: Queen.

      • Dlc says:

        I really HOPE she is not still trying that hard to make him happy. That is so sad, because he does not seem like he is worth that kind of effort at all. I do believe at one point she was desperately in love with him. She may still be. For her sake, I kind of hope not.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Kate did work that hard even in the dating years. He would humiliate her, cheat and it was no secret he mocked her in their circle. He even invited her on a vacation only to dismiss her shortly after she arrived. This was all put out there to shame William into being more kind to her.

    • SarahCS says:

      William without Kate is still their heir to the throne (probably, we’ll see). Kate without William…

      SO yes, I agree entirely that she exists to keep him happy so that she keeps everything she has acquired. If/when they divorce she’s still the mother to the heir but goes way back down in the social echelons.

      The true-blue aristos deal with her because of William but that’s it.

      • ShazBot says:

        Yes, but Kate has smartly ensured William’s brand is a family man. They are the happy, normal family who looks so good in pictures together. And THAT is what is keeping William around, because he is so lazy and would need to do A LOT of work to rebrand if he left her.
        We KNOW they aren’t like that, that he comes and goes, because she has let it occasionally slip, and I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he is living at Sandringham right now.
        One day I would love an investigative story on exactly how William has spent the last decade and a half, because it definitely isn’t working and it definitely isn’t being at home with his family.

      • lili says:

        Shazbot you’re brilliant. I haven’t thought about it before. I genuinely believe Kate loves outdoorsy stuff, sport and her kids. She is natural with kids and we have some early info on her.
        William? Not so much. But by branding William a family man she kind of made a slave to the brand! Honestly, in his age if I were William I wouldn’t change my brand. Also he really can’t divorce Catherine. And what would he do if he did. A mess. In some way their relationship works.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate likes her own kids but remains awkward around them. She is incredibly awkward and uncomfortable around other children, particularly when the kids don’t put up with her gawping and clown face. And Kate isn’t sporty, as others have said, she’s a gym rat. Never a team player.

      • Becks1 says:

        If Charles could divorce Diana, william could divorce Kate. Diana’s tale should be a lesson that no one that marries in cannot be divorced.

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        Ditto what Becks1 said. Every time Kate looks down at Diana’s cursed ring, I’m sure she thinks about that. That’s why she has to be the perfect doormat at all times.

    • ican'tanymore says:

      I don’t think William CAN end it with her – the Queen and Charles would lose their minds, and all the investment of time into making her “keen” and obedient to the Crown would be wasted.
      I also don’t think the public would embrace a split that would no doubt be messy. The Crown can’t afford that kind of mess right now or in the next 50 years. No way would he end their marriage…doesn’t mean he wouldn’t find side entertainment that she would be forced to put up with though.

  4. Who ARE these people? says:

    Has it worked? Is he happy?

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      He is clearly not happy. He has a title and position but he does not have a legacy or the heart of the people.

    • Mtec says:

      I think “keeping him happy” is more along the lines of not making any demands of him, and turning a blind eye. I doubt anything but exploiting his privilege and indulging his ego makes William happy.

      • JT says:

        He certainly doesn’t look happy when he looks at Kate. He literally rolls his eyes at her when she speaks. If he was so happy, he wouldn’t be so damn angry all the time.

    • Alexandria says:

      Keeping him happy or keeping him un-angry? There’s a difference! Look at William’s eyes when he looks at Kate. Anyway Kate will settle.

    • kelleybelle says:

      She has dieted herself to the extreme, there is no light in her eyes, she has no passions, and William only looks happy when he’s talking to a pretty girl on-screen. How happy can he be if he was schtupping one of her friends. Good job, Kate.

      • Kalana says:

        That’s not on Kate though. I think William is similar to the Trumps or any other insanely spoiled person where he’ll always be dissatisfied or unhappy. That’s William’s problem to solve.

        Kate’s job is to figure out what she wants for herself as her definition of being happy and figure out how to do that for herself instead of trying to be codependent with others.

      • kelleybelle says:

        @Kalana, agreed. I’m not sure it’s possible to make this man happy. He wanted so many other girls and openly pursued them while Kate waited around. He was pressured to settle by queen and Middletons, so he did, while being bewildered that these girls didn’t even want a date with him.

      • Nic919 says:

        While it’s not Kate’s job to make him happy, she is choosing to remain in this situation where he clearly doesn’t care about her. At some point you need to choose self respect.

      • lili says:

        I’m in the camp “it’s not on Kate”. William is spoiled beyond our imagination. Future king, he was so handsome when a teen/early twenties! Kate chose this lifestyle. We don’t know if William openly and always disrespects her. I believe she loves her children and she was with William so long she probably got used to such treatment and views it differently.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

        Kate clearly prefers the crown and royal trappings to her own happiness.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate chose to aim for William or any other man in his set from the time she was 14. She chose to start sleeping with him behind his girlfriend’s back. She chose to stand by for 10 years while he cheated on her before marriage. She chose to marry a man she knew would never be faithful. Because she wanted the title and position, willing to do anything to be Princess of Wales.

        Kate is no victim.

      • Bess says:

        Who was William’s girlfriend before Kate?

      • Lemons says:

        Kate has her role to play in their relationship, but all in all, William was the one with power, and will always be the one with power. The Middleton’s can play press games all they want, but Williams gets what William wants, and this has always been the case.
        I find their relationship to be abusive in many ways, and it’s clear that, in their roles, if Kate needs to devote her life to making him happy instead of doing things for the people after a decade, their relationship is in worse shape than we thought. Anyone, even housewives, would side-eye a statement like that because it’s a total erasure of one’s own happiness for one person that could drop you like a hat.
        Kate must have felt some kind of power in having Meghan around, but that crutch is gone. Her one ally outside her family is gone thanks to her own deplorable actions. Everyone else has shown that they will kiss the ring and serve the Crown before family.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Even if W&K were blissfully happy, Kate wouldn’t dedicate her time to helping other people. That isn’t her style, she has no interest in it, she only does the bare minimum because of the PR.

        I don’t see abuse here. I see a woman who chose to put up with a tantrumy cheating man in exchange for a title and position. As Whitaker said years ago, she’ll put up with anything to be Princess of Wales.

    • lucky says:

      I don’t know, but this made me so sad to read. Imagine (even the thought of) existing for someone elses pleasure.

      • Deering24 says:

        lucky—yeah, that’s a working definition of hell. And it’s still being sold to women as the best of everything.

  5. ib says:

    Keeping William happy = turning a blind eye to his affairs

    • Over it says:

      This is it. Plus she gets the jewels and palaces and her family gets a society raise which matters very much to them. And she is still his doormat. He just doesn’t care enough to care if she lives for him because will is all about will because he was raised to believe that the world starts and ends with him. Queen gave them her other house to use because they don’t live together, that marriage is a sham. Hence why he had Covid and she didn’t.

  6. TheOriginalMia says:

    Kate molded her entire existence into being the perfect doormat for William. No ambition beyond the crown. She puts up with any and everything William does because she has to if she wants the crown. But that’s her choice. She’s perfectly content with their life. As long as William’s affairs stay within their class and he doesn’t publicly embarrass her, she will slap on those ridiculous clothes and accent and peddle whatever line they want her to say.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I don’t know why they say William chased her when she made sure she put herself in his path for 3 years so he could notice her and hung on for another 10years. Wasn’t she allegedly called ‘mattress waiting”?

      • Becks1 says:

        Its the saying – let them chase you until you let yourself be caught, I think? Like Kate played the game very well.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        @Elizabeth Regina, her code name from Mattress. I’d be furious and shamed by the name, but not Kate. She put up with the insults and sly winks because she wanted that ring.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        William already had a GF when he started fooling around with Kate, Kate was the ‘side piece’ for a while.

        The ‘mattress’ slur allegedly came from his security (though I think it was later proven not to be true). Then there are the many photo’s of her being papped leaving his barracks carrying an overnight ‘shag bag’. Yuck!!!

        She put herself in an awful situation where she would be judged by a misogynistic press and judged she was but turned the other cheek. I could never have done that.

      • Nic919 says:

        Wasn’t Kate living in the same house as him by the second year? She was already there when he wanted so she didn’t need to chase him.

      • notasugarhere says:

        That housing arrangement was cover for them already sleeping together.

      • UptownGirl says:

        I purposely do not read PWT and Keen stories because it’s always the same, another shot of PR puke inducing lies. Kate chased PWT during their entire college years. He was never faithful to her just as I am sure he still is not faithful. PWT only cares about himself, he just does what he wants. Angela Levin is always spouting lies, though she claims to be an expert in regards to Royal matters, she has no idea what she is talking about. The reason she looked so happy during the years that Harry was single was that Harry paid attention to Keen. Harry would speak with Keen during their official engagements as you can look back over the years and see how engaging he was with Keen. Then Harry meets Meghan and possibly the reason that Keen went out of her way to be nasty to Meghan was that she was jealous of the great love affair that Harry and Meghan have.
        But ladies, make no mistake about it. I guess Keen was hopeful that PWT would magically change after marriage, which didn’t happen unfortunately for Keen.
        And what about this article, how Keen saved PWT with her well balanced family upbringing? How do you think this will look with regards to Charles?
        Levin has painted his childhood as such an awful experience that Keen saved him from his dysfunctional family. Isn’t Levin biting the hand that feeds her??

      • notasugarhere says:

        It came from a tabloid reporter, who wrote an article about how jobless Kate risked being seen as nothing more than William’s mattress.

  7. CommentingBunny says:

    Levin is really gross. “Woman’s sole mission in life is to make man happy” shouldn’t be held up as something laudable.

    • lanne says:

      It’s what she imagines for herself, Baby Jane style, as the Bride of Harry.

    • Merricat says:

      100% gross.

    • MsIam says:

      Levin is a joke. And that line about Kate “saving William from a life of ribbon cutting”? Isn’t that what Meghan did for Harry, yet Levin makes her out to be the devil? And btw what a way to sum up the royal life! They all want to get away from that yet they trash Harry for wanting the same.

  8. Grumpier than thou says:

    God what a depressing article. It almost makes me feel badly for her that *this* is the box she has to stay in, regardless of the fact she seemed to choose it herself. Can you imagine if your entire value was thought to be in making an over privileged toothy rage monster ‘happy’

    • harla says:

      I feel the same Grumpier! Yes, even if this is the life she choose I honestly don’t think that she thought it would end up this way, I think that Kate thought that the wedding and marriage would change everything and that William would finally be more respectful to her but we’ve all seen that he isn’t. I can only imagine how Kate feels when she sees the love and respect Harry has for Meghan, how Harry walked away in order to protect his family and how Harry looks at Meghan with such love and devotion.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        “I can only imagine how Kate feels when she sees the love and respect Harry has for Meghan”

        I think this is a huge part of why she’s looked increasingly strained and unhappy in the past two years. That and the Rose situation (and whoever else Will might be fooling around with). She’s had titles, luxurious living, and heirs to keep her content despite her husband’s disdainful attitude. It was enough for her until she saw how Harry treated Meghan.

      • The Duchess says:

        I agree completely @Harla. Personally, I think Kate is extremely unhappy within herself. There’s no doubt she enjoys and relishes in the titles, privileges and luxury that comes with it all, but I also think she thought royal life/marriage would be better than what it actually is. I think she was under the illusion that Baldy would treat her better now that they were official. On the world stage, as a married couple who would be perceived as being ‘so in love’ by everybody, it’s no wonder she probably got her hopes up that Baldy would treat her kindly and respect her as his wife.

        But this is where Kate should’ve known better. This is the same man she chased and wasted her early youth on trying to please him. He had no regard for her then, so of course he wouldn’t have any respect for her once married. What a silly and thoughtless plan, which I mainly blame Carole for. A marriage shouldn’t be based on this. It should be based on true love and respect, and that’s something Kate will never have.

      • Sandra says:

        I was thinking about this the other day – they did look that way at each other in the early days of their marriage. I specifically recall how cute they were together at the London Olympics. You can’t fake that affection. They were adorable. Typical newlyweds. I think Bill has just become more and more like his father’s side of the family as the years have passed.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They can fake affection, Sandra, but now William doesn’t bother. Early years of the marriage also included him leaving her standing in the rain during the Jubilee and constantly clenching his fists around her. The ‘cute’ Olympics stuff involved Harry running interference, W&K starting straight into a camera before ‘posing’ with the hug, etc. I didn’t see typical newlyweds, but rather a man who finally gave up, married her, and instantly regretted his choice.

      • CC2 says:

        @nota, I think the truth is more simple than we think. Will and Kate have their cute moments, Olympics being one of them. There are moments when they look like they like each other, and moments where Will is embarrassed. I think a lot of their relationship is platonic. I don’t buy that Will is utterly embarrassed by her and hates her. That just seems to be projection by cb posters IMHO, who genuinely wants to believe that their marriage was not built out of love at all.

        The reality is most likely that William wants the anti Diana, Kate was suitable, and they have a nice friendship there. Maybe love bere and there. Both knew what they want but it’s not all fake. Will has his moments of defending her, he’s just awfully hot and cold with her. More cold than hot

        The Sussexes probably strained things because it emphasised how a husband and wife should look like.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        The early years of marriage also involved loads of praise for William and separate living arrangements. She stayed at the cottage alone at time and eventually moved back on with her parents. he even left her alone on their honeymoon. Which sounds like something Charles, a known cheater, would do.

      • Nic919 says:

        William has been cold with her for years. The shot of Kate coming down the plane by herself while visibly pregnant as William is way ahead talking to the others just shows that he has no consideration for her. What decent husband acts this way? It doesn’t have. To be all hand holding and kissing, but even the least affectionate man tends to look out for his heavily pregnant spouse.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think, at the beginning of their marriage, there was friendship, a relationship of some sort, agreement, whatever – but no great love. But now I dont think theres even that.

      • lili says:

        CC2, PERFECT comment. I don’t know why people on celebitchy want others to believe it’s like the worst marriage.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William openly cringing whenever Kate opens her mouth isn’t fictional, CC2. It is easy enough to see. He has always seemed to tolerate her presence not enjoy it. Through the years when she is convenient for him – for sex or getting out of work – then she’s tolerated. Barely.

        This relationship only got to the marriage point because they stayed mostly apart. Even in Wales, she didn’t live there with him. She was in London at the hairdresser three days a week. Whenever he wanted to live as a single man, that was part of the deal. Now the strain of the last year, fewer chances for him to escape whenever he wants? The separate living arrangement makes them even more awkward when they are together on camera.

      • Maria says:

        Lol, we believe it’s a bad marriage because it is. Nobody ever said it was the worst, I think all of us can think of plenty of examples of marriages that are worse, but it’s not great here.
        I remember the Olympics moment when the photos of that first came out and I didn’t believe it then, LOL, and I was not as critical of them as I am today.
        I don’t think all of their early moments were PR, but that one was.
        I remember their wedding being very cold and unemotional. Her father lifted her veil and every time they joined hands for the vows William dropped hers like a hot stone.
        His proposal wasn’t even the real story, he lifted it directly from the engagement experience of another aristo who got engaged a bit before him and he was documented to be in London at the time they supposedly were on that Kenyan retreat.
        The constant articles about him not wanting PDA because it’s “against protocol”, that stuff came from his camp originally. Also, the not wanting to wear a wedding ring and his camp putting out stories about how all royal men do that when that’s not even true (again, the wearing of a wedding ring in itself doesn’t mean anything necessarily, but combined with all the rest with William…yeah).
        But yes, I remember the Jubilee boat event in 2012 where William snapped at her and she almost burst into tears on camera. And he also left her behind, cue the famous shot of Harry pointing at Kate and making a “WTF” face at William.
        Her being scolded on an airfield after a skirt flashing incident, I don’t think it was related to that but he was not happy with her over something.
        At least then they seemed to be affectionate even if it wasn’t torrid.
        Now they don’t even look at each other at events. It’s like watching two cousins who barely know each other do a family event or something.
        William was very annoyed at the implication that Kate would be anything like Diana in their engagement interview. And yes, I think he does want the anti-Diana in the sense that she won’t make waves, but she’s unprepared and unprofessional and uninterested in carving out any type of role, which you can tell frustrates him as time goes on and the more engagements they do together.
        Whatever friendship or arrangement they had before is definitely soured.

      • Ginger says:

        Didn’t they invite a group of their friends to their honeymoon? I heard that and find it incredibly weird.

      • Maria says:

        Not to mention how he skipped baby George’s first vacation to go on an all male-hunting trip (well, all male with the exception of Jecca Craig).

        There are just so many examples of his disregard for her, and his family.

      • Nic919 says:

        Or when he skipped Charlotte’s first Easter to attend Jecca Craig’s wedding on his own a continent away.

        There are numerous examples to list over the years that can be seen with our own eyes. It’s not wishful thinking but reality and frankly you don’t wish that type of marriage on your worst enemy.

      • CC2 says:

        Nah, I still disagree with your assessments. It’s obvious that they don’t have a happy marriage, but the whole idea of Will not liking her one bit still seems like projection. I remember certain moments that CB cites, such as Kate being furious at him or whatever, and when I search those moments up, it was honestly not that juicy. I can’t tell you how many times this happened.

        Kind of like Meghan trolls insisting Harry was unhappy with Meghan during Zoom calls because of certain facial expressions. People immediately want to push a whole narrative based on a few moments.

        As someone who bothered following the poor man’s Sussexes for a bit, I can’t deny that they had their cute moments where they tease each other and they actually come across as genuine. W&K are genuinely not good actors, as we can see from their own wedding (especially them otw to the reception), so pinning every nice moment as fake just comes across as confirmation bias to me.

        I still stand by that at least before Meghan stepped in, W&K at least liked each other as friends (or enough to not hate each other at least). And for now, William respects Kate as a mother. This doesn’t mean he’s a good husband. William is generally a snob so that umbrella moment isn’t a huge insight of his relationship, but generally his personality. Harry literally gives his umbrella to strangers and is chivalrous to women in general and we see that translate to how he treats Meghan (like a queen). Obviously it shows that William doesn’t go the extra mile for Kate, but it isn’t necessarily a sign of hatred when he would treat everyone this way. The problem with him is that he treats Kate like any ol’ person, which is why I don’t think they’re in love and their relationship is more of an arrangement.

      • Leni says:

        @nota agree and I would go further to say that if you look back at all the ‘cute’ moments they had, they were always when they were with Harry. It seems like he was the glue that kept them together. It always felt so weird that a married couple would feel more comfortable with when a third-party than just with each other, but I think that says a lot about their relationship.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Leni, they always have to have buffers. Harry at engagements. Carole as the third person in their marriage. A dozen friends with them on their honeymoon because being alone would be too stressful. Plenty of examples through the years.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Whenever I say “Rose Who?”, I am now referring to all of BPwBT’s side pieces.

      I am thoroughly convinced the “whatever” with Rose Cholmondeley is 100% over and has been 100% over for a long time.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Or they view each other with ongoing affection (Rose and William), while William is free to use Houghton for his latest side pieces.

      • Layla Beans says:

        Gross. Imagine offering up your house so your friend can repeatedly cheat on his wife and mother of his kids, like it’s NBD. The aristo set really are something else. BARF.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Layla – well, he and Kate live in the house that was offered up to Charles and Camilla by their friends so they could have their affair (Anmer.) So I guess its just kind of par for the course with that set?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Becks1, that’s why I always conclude William has no problem with infidelity. He didn’t care his parents cheated on each other, he cared how he wasn’t the centre of their universes. Choosing to live in the house where Charles and Camilla had their relationship shows it.

    • Gillysirl says:

      100% agree with what you’re saying – they are so obviously not happy. They look like people who did what they thought they were supposed to do and now bitterly regret their superficial choices.

  9. harla says:

    I have to disagree Kaiser, in order for Kate to maintain her status and place she must remain slavishly devoted to William’s whims and desires.

    • UptownGirl says:

      @ harla, you are right! I mentioned that given what she saw between Harry and Meghan must have cut deep into Keens heart. Keen realized that their relationship was based on love, which W&K don’t have anymore or possibly only she has/had for PWT. So she just stays within the lines not to upset PWT.

      • Leni says:

        @uptowngirl I think you’re right. I truly think that’s what pushed her jealousy over the edge. Seeing Meghan so secure in her marriage and relationship that she doesn’t have to pander nor worry about him looking at other girls and doing his own all whilst her own husband was having an affair and her surrogate husband Harry had moved on must’ve really made her SICK to the bone. I also have no doubt Kate tried pulling some behind the back shit about Meghan to Harry to try and comfort her self importance (which she knows her husband would keke and allow) and he shut that down real quick and it made her realise her lack of importance to him now he has a new life. We have never seen William dote on Kate as Harry and Meghan do each other. And I don’t think it’s for lack of want you can see times when she tries to encourage his affection towards her but he never takes bait.

  10. lanne says:

    And this is exactly the problem with the royal family. They don’t want people to join. They want sentient doormats and houseplants who can bear children. Kate has been a walking womb. That apparently in 2021 is her only value. I would feel deeply sorry for her if this wasn’t exactly what she has chosen. Be thin, be pretty, be silent, be fertile. What a terrible message for a modern day monarchy.

  11. Snuffles says:

    So Kate is Imani Izzi from Coming To America who was raised to serve the future king and knows nothing else. She literally barked like a dog at his command. Is this the type of role model little girls should have?

  12. MsDiMeanOur says:

    embiggening to the max
    this is the extent of her personality… woah

    also Willileaks.. has not aged like fine wine..

  13. Amy Bee says:

    All I got from this was the monarchy is archaic and needs to be abolished. Also Kate leads a very sad life.

  14. Merricat says:

    This is exactly the problem with William. He expects everyone to devote their lives to making him happy. Ugh.

    • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

      As did his father. Sadly, I think ALL the (first born) heirs in direct line have ALWAYS been brought up to believe they are *that* special BECAUSE of this, and that everyone IS there to cater to them. Let’s not forget, PwBT was known as Billy the Basher, Terrible Willie, and other assorted names ever since he was little. Diana even gave him a smack, in public, at a sports day at school because he was out of control (didn’t he bite someone at school). He was never known as a considerate, empathetic child. He would TELL others HE is “going to be king”.

      I think, “nature” (inherited personality traits/genetic makeup), combined with “nurture” (the way he was brought up, and yes, allowed to run wild after Diana died), made him into the monster/person he is. And there’s not much good about him.

      • Nic919 says:

        Charles does expect to be catered to, but the difference is that the media will attack him for it on occasion. William is still being treated as though he is not doing the exact same thing. The media is not revealing the truth here. The closest they have gotten is to say he is “grand”.

  15. MerryGirl says:

    She spent her whole life chasing him and when she finally wore him down, she spent the rest of her existence being a doormat and walking on egg shells around this man baby who doesn’t respect her. The result? separately or together, they have no chemistry, no charisma, no chutzpah.

    • Julia K says:

      I don’t think it was Kate who wore him down. Mike and Carole had a “come to Jesus” meeting with Wm; our daughters reputation is on the line here. Do the right thing. You enjoy the milk, now buy the cow. I can fully see Carole gent!y tightening the screws.

      • (TheOG) Jan90067 says:

        Didn’t PP have that same talk with Charles about Diana? Talk about history repeating itself!

      • Nic919 says:

        It wasn’t Carole and Mike who made him propose, it was Charles. Carole spends all her time catering to William and his whims and she would never dare call him out on anything. Any parent who saw their daughter being treated the way William treated Kate in the dating years wouldn’t have encouraged her to get back with him after they broke up in 2008.

        Part of why he likes the Middletons is being they treat him as king without any question. Charles is the bad guy in this scenario because he doesn’t ever do that. William knows just how desperate the Middletons, especially Carole, want to be considered aristo and so he has control over that relationship.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Charles didn’t make William propose. He and the Queen gave him the same talk Philip gave Charles. You’re ruining her reputation, marry her or set her aside. William broke up with her, then went back to her months later. No doubt with promises extracted by Carole and Mike that William WOULD marry her eventually.

        I see Mike and Carole, particularly Carole, putting the pressure on William to finally make it official. Mummy Carole threatening to withhold affection as well. There are three people in this marriage, always have been.

    • Ginger says:

      Agreed MerryGirl

      • UptownGirl says:

        @ notsugarfree, that’s an interesting tale. I didn’t realize that Charles gave him the “talk”. So I wonder why he spun back around back to her? And yes, Carole is in this marriage as well. She isn’t one to sit back and allow PWT to keep playing with Keens feelings or future. Carole is very much active in the narrative that is being put put there.
        I wonder if Carole presented this article to Levin, as it doesn’t put Charles in a favorable light. It only supports the Middletons in a very favorable and supportive role.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Charles thought they were headed to marriage, that’s why he had the Duchy buy Harewood Park and start fixing it up. That was part of what freaked William out so much and led to another breakup.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Why did Cain & Can’t Trainbridge not take occupancy of Harewood Park? It is a very good looking country house?

  16. MellyMel says:

    Well…this is depressing. Also is William even happy? He’s always “incandescent with rage.”

    • anonymous says:

      @Chill. Nailed it. Okay, while watching the Smithsonian channel, (yes I know, I’ve accepted that my life is in competition with watching the proverbial paint dry) they had an evening with shows on the British Royal family. There was a scene after Kate and William had come out of the church, were firmly ensconced within the carriage, right before it took off to bring them back to Buck House. Kate turned to look at William with unmitigated Joy. She gave him this huge heartwarming smile and asked him if he was happy. He looked past her, waving to the family following them out of the church. Her face fell, then a second later she recovered and waved to family and friends seeing them off. My heart just broke for her. It was Charles all over again, “Whatever love means” response. I knew little about Kate because I had bigger fish to fry with my munchkins and husband. I’ve learned a lot since. She’s not evil, she’s not the anti-christ. Kate is territorial and jealous by nature. She knows her husband is sh£t and now she has to bear that a$$hole for the remainder of her years or until he divorces her. She needs to find herself and learn that the POS she married will always think of number 1….himself.

  17. Chill says:

    No one, but no one can make you happy. You must find happiness within yourself. If your job is to make others happy then what happens to you? Healthy people know that they must be happy and working on themselves to contribute to the happiness of others.

  18. Lauren says:

    I mean she is right that Kate has made it her sole mission to make Bill happy. She gave up almost half of her life to become the sort of woman that Bill could be interested in and when that didn’t work she made sure to stick around even after all the public pain and humiliation. Hope that when (if) she is queen she can say that it was worth it. She looks miserable half the time she is with him, that lovesick look that she had in the early years of her marriage has since died a lonely and silent death.

  19. Becks1 says:

    I definitely think that they are living separately – why else would the Queen let them use Sandringham? anmer is plenty big for them, there is no need for them to use Sandringham. It goes against every other story we’ve heard during the pandemic – they have a scaled back staff, they are closer than ever, they are so hands on, they are cutting their kids hair etc.

    The only reason that really makes sense is that William is at Sandringham and Kate is at Anmer and as a result, their work staff is based at Sandringham so Kate has to go there for zooms, because William wont go to Anmer (and they cant zoom from separate locations.)

    And I think as a result we are getting these sugary stories about how happy Kate makes William and how devoted she is to him – we’ve gotten them before, when there seems to be something going on behind the scenes. Its a reminder to William of how much he needs her and how dysfunctional his childhood was.

    • Amy Bee says:

      I think they’re living separately. It’s the only logical reason for them to be using Sandringham especially during a pandemic.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        William has pretty much always had a place away from Kate. While in the RAF, while taking the bespoke cert program. While in uni. While she was pregnant and raising infant George. While AH and KP residences were being renovated. These are all times William has a residence privately from Kate. And for years it was obvious with pap shots and time stamps they were not anywhere near each other.

        Even famously after 1 engagement together William got into a helicopter and Kate got into a car and they drove in opposite directions. It was caught by civilians and followed up by press. And noted they didn’t really look at each other.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Yep – it also makes me think that the baby no. 4 article was an attempt by Carole to push them back together, she has a looong history of pushing them back together when they start drifting. I remember one story when Kate ended things and had no intention of taking him back but her mother invited him to a Middleton NY party (I think) and pretty much bullied them to ‘kiss and makeup’ in front of all the other guests.

      To think if Carole had been born a generation later….

      • Kfg says:

        Exactly. I think he’s literally done with her. He didn’t want Louis and he doesn’t want more kids. She is boring. He sees how much press Harry gets and is blaming Kate’s boring and lazy ways for his own shortcomings. I give them maybe another year before he replaces her with a real aristo.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Agree, DG. This has Kate and Carole’s fingerprints all over it. William was halfway out the door before getting caught with the blonds. Baby #3 as retribution.

        It makes an earlier idea make sense. William was ready to sideline Kate right before Harry and Meghan left. Their exit make that impossible for now. Part of his rage is now he feels stuck with Kate for a bit longer.

      • Nyro says:

        If there was even a possibility that she could have gotten away with it, Carole’s thirsty behind would have gone after William herself, 25 year age gap be damned.

        But yeah, I think they are indeed living apart, just like his parents and grandparents before him. He’s over it. I mean, he even seemed like he was over it at their wedding, imo. I’ve never seen a more inattentive young groom.

        I’ve said before that the whole “young family man” identity pushed onto him by Betty and the Firm was the wrong move. He’s not the young family man type at all. He clearly would have been happier emulating Prince Albert, being a playboy and marrying much much later in life. They should have sucked it up and allowed him to do that, minus making babies all over the place, of course. I bet he’d have been a lot happier and would have even been much more productive had he been able to at least be in full control of his personal life. I think a lot of his laziness and stubbornness is from him acting out because he feels that he’s been pushed into playing this family man role, projecting stability, all because his parents’ marriage blew up so spectacularly.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Per Kfg: “I give them maybe another year before he replaces her with a real aristo.”

        No real aristocrat wants the job. William has already tried that. The serach for an aristocratic wife did not work then and ,especially after Meghan’s trials & tribulations, it will not work now.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think William finally married Kate because 1) Carole threatened to withhold her affection and 2) he thought marriage meant he could dodge royal work for another 10 years by playing family man. And look, that second one came true. Neither he nor Kate has done anywhere near the work they should have done this decade, and they use family life as their excuse.

        We’ve seen too much evidence through the years, with facts from his co-workers and lies about flight times, and his dismissive and resentful attitude towards Kate. He wasn’t with Kate, he wasn’t working his outside job, he wasn’t doing royal work.

        Now the pressure is on. I could see him wanting to offload Kate, which he’s wanted to do for years. Use another five years as breathing space to make sure their ‘conscious uncoupling’ is working for the kids, before finding another excuse to dodge royal work.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Nota – that’s been one of my working theories over the past year – that William wants to divorce Kate and after Sussexit, he was told it couldnt happen, at least not right then. It explains why he is so incandescent with rage every time Harry’s name comes up – not only is Harry married to a woman he loved, but Harry made his moves on his own terms, and William did not. It also explains the palace dragging their feet with talking to Harry, William’s refusal to attend the lunch before the Sandringham Summit, etc.

        Of course all that’s explained away by William being a narcissistic asshole too. But its always been portrayed in the media that its WILLIAM who is so incensed over Harry’s actions – not really Charles or the Queen (although we know she is petty about it.) There’s always been an implication that William takes Sussexit very personally, much more personally than Charles. And given that, I think the idea that he and Kate were on the cusp of divorce makes sense.

        @Nyro – that’s an interesting point, and I kind of agree. Its clear that William did not want to marry Kate when he did. So, he shouldnt have. I know we’re talking about how entitled he is and does what he wants, but marriage is one thing where I think you really should only do what you want. Look at Harry – waited a few more years, grew up and matured, and found someone like Meghan.

      • anonymous says:

        @Nyro. You’re not the only one. Check my long ass boring post a few threads before yours.

    • Cecilia says:

      It would also explain why kate seems so fidgety whenever she’s doing zooms with william. These 2 are a lost cause. Nevertheless i don’t think they will ever actually divorce. I think kate let’s william do whatever he wants, and in return she gets all the praise in the press. Mostly over the back of her sister in law

      • JT says:

        People thought Charles and Diana would never divorce and look what happened to them. Something is brewing with them though. I think it’s going to take some catalyst for all hell to break loose. It’s never a good sign if two people can’t even stay in the same mansion together.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Charles and Diana divorced because Diana wanted out and would not agree to a Cain and Can’t Trainbridge type of arrangement leading separate private lives. I Diana had been agreeable to Trainbridge arrangement, they would never been divorced.

        I wonder who wants out of the Trainbridge arrangement: Cain or Can’t?

      • JT says:

        @Bay I’m thinking it’s Cain. Who is Kate without William? And the thing is, Kate has made it so easy for him to get rid of her. Her lack of work and her continued absence has made the public indifferent towards her. Part of Diana’s shine came from the fact that she was out and about constantly and of course looking amazing. Being in your face goes quite along way to endear you to the public; it’s the same way with TV stars, like the Friends cast. Being in people living rooms every week was comforting to many people making the casts popularity enduring. Kate’s insistence on being invisible and lazy makes the public resent her. Her exhausted comments got her torn apart even on the DM. It would be so easy for Will to drop the hammer on her and change public opinion; look what they did to Meghan. They’ve kind already set her up to take the fall for H&M and her commonwealth behavior easily goes along with the narrative.

      • UptownGirl says:

        @ JT, you really think that they are setting her up for the SusExit? Wow!! That would be awful!! I don’t care for Keen as she is lazy, spiteful, manipulative, selfish and unscrupulous. But to have her take the blame? That’s whole lot of level of petty in Petty Betty.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If she and Carole are guilty as charged, why not have her take the blame for what she did?

      • JT says:

        All of the talk about FF had so much talk of Kate and her behavior. She was cold, distant, and standoffish. Everyone liked Meghan at first, even William, but the only one who had problem was Kate. Tightsgate was a lie which probably came from her, I doubt William would be there for fittings, and even the RR said in the end something made Kate cry but not Meghan. Kate was too busy “working” to offer advice. Meghan was making Kate look old fashioned and dull and the you have the Early Years PR around the cookbook. After H&M left, the were dozens of an articles saying how relaxed she was and how she could slow down. And remember this stuff came from palace sources, most of this wasn’t in the book. They even talked about her ruthlessness in getting to her true goal: the crown. She had on a bitchface at the church service that even the RR couldn’t really explain away. I think they’ve been subtlety letting her take the fall and it would be easy to do so. It’s not like they aren’t going to protect the FFK.

        William definitely had a hand in it but I don’t think he wanted them, especially Harry, to leave. For the past year their have been stories about William needing to shoulder the kingship with Harry. You can’t take credit if the workhorse isn’t there. I mostly think he was smearing H&M to cover for his own bullshit like the Rose rumors. The now infamous incandescent article said he was mad that Harry was leaving, not that he wanted him to go. Anything saying he is relieved at their absence now is just posturing in my opinion. Kate is the only one who truly benefits from Harry and Meghan leaving and the palace can and will absolutely make Kate the villain in all this.

      • Ginger says:

        Yes, Diana had the public’s love for her, Kate doesn’t. A lot of people are very indifferent towards her. Before I started following this stuff, I was just “eh” towards her. I didn’t even watch their wedding. They both just bore me.

        And I think Kate was the main one with this smear campaign. She definitely benefited from it. She went from being “still new” and “finding her way” to being the power of the monarchy and so regal and perfect. William is jealous of Harry but knows he needs him during his rein. He is weak without him. William isn’t well like at all. Harry is the one that is beloved. Also, Harry was there to keep Kate company and be the buffer. Now William is stuck with her.

    • Leni says:

      I also think these articles are put out there by courtiers to pressure them to stay together (not that I necessarily think they never get a divorce but…) and force them to keep up appearances to save embarrassment. This isolates them from ever talking about any marriage problems or conflict

  20. Beach Dreams says:

    The constant attempts of the media to rewrite Will and Kate’s history is quite amusing.

  21. Digital Unicorn says:

    Never a truer word spoken – however I think things have now changed for her to maintaining her position as FFQC, which is not a done deal.

  22. Susan says:

    It has taken me far too many years in life to finally realize you cannot make another person happy. This marriage is living proof of that.

    • Deering24 says:

      Damn straight. It is a sin and a shame that girls are still being taught this garbage—and waste their lives trying to meet a goalpost that never stops moving. 🤮

    • LittlePenguin says:

      I agree @Susan and @Deering24, this narrative has to go away. Why is one person’s happiness more important than another’s? I have friend’s who are miserable because they are trying to keep their husbands happy and it breaks my heart to see it. (And when you point it out subtly, they say, well he bought me this fancy purse! Sigh)

  23. Kfg says:

    This makes me think Kates mom gave this info. I’m almost positive PwT is about to divorce her. All this she’s a savior crap is going to piss him off and it’s to test how much loyalty the public has for Kate. Will sees her as boring and not an asset anymore. If Rose ever leaves her husband or another aristo woman shows interest he’s out if he hasn’t already made that decision.

    • Sofia says:

      I doubt they’ll divorce. William benefits from being married to Kate. He gets to push the “family man who married his college sweetheart” image, especially compared to Charles who had an arranged marriage and married his mistress. William is a “better” version of Charles in the eyes of some people and the marriage is a major part.

      They’ll just live separate lives, have other people on the side but still remain married on paper.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        “William is a “better” version of Charles in the eyes of some people”

        Are you referring to the commentariat of The Daily Fail? LOL!

    • Alexandria says:

      I’ve always thought William won’t divorce Kate cos she lets him do whatever. He will only divorce for two reasons:
      1) if he finds someone he is enchanted with AND that someone is willing to be QC
      2) once the kids are teenagers and he wants to be the divorced, playboy King / FFK. At this point does the King really have to be married? He has already produced an heir. If there is no monarchy at that point I don’t think Britain would care anyway. Then Willie is freeeeeeee (re-enact pub declaration of freedom).

      • SarahCS says:

        Regarding point 1 I really doubt there are many women who meet both those criteria.

      • Alexandria says:

        Yes Sarah C. 2 is more likely to happen. And regardless of 1 or 2, I imagine Kate will be handsomely compensated and taken care of (she needs to be taken care of anyway) since she technically has produced the heir and spares. The Middletons’ next task is to ensure George takes care of them. And then Kate can shop all she wants. Win win for both. And Britain is used to blended families anyway especially when it comes to aristocrats (William’s side) and celebrities / socialites (Middleton’s side).

      • notasugarhere says:

        She doesn’t have to be handed the keys to the castle in a divorce, especially if William paid a large sum towards her parents house a few years ago. She’d get to stay in one property, likely Wood Farm at Sandringham, until the youngest is 18. No huge payout, no ongoing taxpayer-funded alimony, no real estate in her name.

    • notasugarhere says:

      He’s had one foot out the door since the day he met Kate. This is a business arrangement, marriage of convenience that he finds inconvenient, restrictive. The talk of him wanting to set aside Kate, the Rose affair, Harry and Meghan’s departure ended that for now.

      He wants to divorce her, but he doesn’t want any hint of another woman already in the wings. That’s why he wouldn’t divorce right after the Rose affair broke. Later this year, with no hint of scandal about affairs? He can pull the ‘Uni friends who married, grew apart, stress of royal work, stress of COVID’ cards as his Get Out of Marriage Free Card.

      • Harper says:

        Let’s see who gets thrown under the bus between now and the Oprah interview. This would be the time for WIll to start his “I was manipulated by the Middletons when I was a vulnerable, grieving young man” defense. A little hint that the anti-Meghan stories were coming straight from Bucklebury could help Will lay the groundwork for his escape from the clutches of the middle-class Middletons, who drove out the Blood Prince of England and his family with their jealousy.

  24. Liz version 700 says:

    What a model for her kids. Between dad’s rages and mom’s wilting flower persona that family is one I am glad not to be a part of. Yikes

    • Cerise says:

      But Kate is not a wilting flower… she took her rage out on Meghan.

      She reminds me of these superrich wives locked in gilded cages who mentally and physically abuse their migrant servants. All of that pent up anger has to go somewhere.

      Kate thought she could get away with it because she thought Meghan was more desperate than she was to be a royal, so she pulled rank.

      Also, I think hating Meghan was the only thing Kate and Wills had in common. There were even stories of them being “closer”.

  25. EliseM says:

    Charles: “….whatever Love is…’
    William: ” yeah,…what he said”

  26. Nyro says:

    It sure is and that’s pathetic as hell. Her choice and all, so good for her. But this is one of the many reasons she does not resonate with women of her own generation and younger. The male-identified woman is no longer anything any woman or girl with some sense wants to admire. Women like Kate and Melania represent something very ugly, sad, and pathetic. There is a reason Kate is a goddess among the racist and misogynistic underground tradwife movement.

  27. Alexandria says:

    How much does she get paid to write this obvious fuckery…good job Kate!

  28. Mars says:

    Does making william happy mean skipping meals? Kate needs a sandwich.

    • Leni says:

      Agree, at a certain point she should’ve been able to loosen up and enjoy comfort a bit but it’s clear that she knows she must keep herself on her toes to perfection with her dieting and shit. I remember the first time I actually noticed how skinny she is I would shocked and it’s crazy people don’t point out there is something seriously and sadly wrong, especially at her height and now age. When you look at her childhood pics you can tell she is naturally very slim, but also quite soft and much less boney. Seeing her hard bones chest during summer really reminded me

  29. notasugarhere says:

    Kate didn’t chase him? Kate agreed to be his secret bed partner while he was openly dating another woman. Talk was a friend of William’s ‘tried Kate out first’ to verify her willingness to be quiet about having sex, then she was moved on to William. She got him through cheating, and that’s why he’s been willing to keep her around for twenty years. As long as she agrees to his eternal cheating, he sticks around. For now.

  30. Over it says:

    He won’t leave her . He needs her to make him look good for kingship. The perfect family Image, however because she has been his doormat the entire time they were together, it’s his ticket to cheat and do whatever he wants, she knows this and accepts it because that’s what happens when you sell your soul and dignity to the devil for position and jewels. Her mother is a disgrace to her . Carole and I am also blaming her dad should never have used their own children to further their ambitions. How does Kate explain her life choices to her children when they grow up and see how their father treats her and she just rolls over and takes it. This is also why she hates Meghan so much why she was jealous of her. Because Harry lives to love his wife and Kate never had this from william.

    • Amy Too says:

      But what if he could create a better perfect family image with someone else? Someone he actually likes and is willing to live with and work with without rolling his eyes at her all the time? Someone who will be a great stepmom to his children? As long as he co-parents with Kate nicely and doesn’t replace her with some kind of evil stepmother, he might be able to have a REAL “perfect family” image with someone else.

      • Sofia says:

        Nobody that William likes wants the job. He tried. For 10 years to find someone and he couldn’t. The aristos just want the bragging points of sleeping with the future future king but they don’t want to marry him and any “regular” working person like Meghan is going to run away from the family, especially after seeing Meghan went through.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Amy Too, I’m with you. They could do a public example like Joachim, Alex (Wife #1), and Marie (Wife #2). Public displays of everybody being one big happy blended family.

      • Maria says:

        Ironically I can see him being a more eligible catch now than in his youth.
        He’s already had children and done that dog-and-pony show. I can see a certain kind of woman being quite happy being his second wife. Whereas the pressure and attention on being his first marriage and having babies in the spotlight would definitely be a turnoff in many ways.

      • Amy Too says:

        I think so too, Maria. There’s a lot less pressure on the second wife. Camilla was an affair partner that everyone hated but even she was able to become accepted and keep herself relatively in the background. She doesn’t have to parent William and Harry, she has her own kids so she has a separate family and doesn’t rely 100% on the royal family for her emotional well-being, her children get the benefits (financial, political, social) of their mother being married to the future king but they don’t have to do the whole dog and pony show. I can see a woman be willing to marry William now that he’s no longer the number 1 top tabloid eligible bachelor whose entire life is breathlessly written about and followed world-wide. People don’t care about him that much anymore. He could have a quiet second wedding. The new wife wouldn’t have to produce heirs and stand on the steps on the hospital. She would be able to share the spotlight with William, Kate, Harry, Meghan, and the Cambridge kids when they get older, unlike Kate who was THE young royal woman for years. She could do some charity work like Camilla does but keep her personal life pretty private. I understand why no one he was interested in would marry him back then, but now? Maybe. Maybe one of the divorced, wealthy, yummy mummies from the kids’ school. Maybe someone with a low-level amount of celebrity/experience in the public eye like a news anchor or a someone who does a lot of work in the public eye for a charity or cause. Meghan sort of opened the door for who can marry into the family. And now, even if William also married a non-aristo TV actress, she would probably be welcomed with open arms just because A) she’s not Megan and B) she’s marrying William and C) she would be more interesting than Kate just by default bc ANYONE would be more interesting than Kate.

  31. Mila says:

    That’s the saddest shit i’ve ever heard, no wonder she is a wreck and a nasty bitch, forever being in competition for women who are not even looking at you 😬

  32. Over it says:

    And Angela levin is a sick bitch to write this article painting Kate like thinks like it’s supposed to be a good thing. It’s an embarrassment and disgrace to women everywhere.

  33. Gabby says:

    At some point, is Kate going to realize that she has been sold a bill of goods? I suspect pharmaceutical assistance in keeping that fixed smile on her face. Will is no prize. I don’t understand what Rose sees in him either, as her husband appears much more like a real human being.

    Several of you have said that Will is “done”, but I don’t think he would be permitted to divorce. He appears miserable with the public smiles always through gritted teeth. There is no way to “make” someone else happy, especially when that someone is not allowed to determine and drive his own life. Will does not want to be king. He is jealous that Harry escaped and wanted the same for himself.

    • Alexandria says:

      He wants to be King. How else would he get access to money? He just doesn’t want the work or scrutiny when he wants to play. That’s why he will have a few unscrupulous alliances with the Tories and the press to keep his business on the down low. And that’s why it’s great Harry got his family out.

      • Amy Too says:

        He is the eventual heir to his grandmother’s and father’s considerable personal fortune whether or not he’s King, though. I think Monarch to monarch inheritances aren’t taxed, but he’d still get a huge amount of money even after taxes if he weren’t the King. I think he’d love to get the inheritance but not have to do the duties of being King. Maybe dissolve the monarchy after avoiding the tax payments.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If there is no longer a monarchy, there’s no reason to keep the majority of the wealth in one package because of the monarch-to-monarch transfer. Much more freeing for Charles, giving him an easier path to leaving half to each of his sons.

    • Nic919 says:

      If Charles could get divorced as Prince of Wales then so can William. The whole point of the hereditary monarchy is that you get the next in line no matter what they have done. Besides if William did want a divorce he wouldn’t have to deal with the popularity that Diana had. Right now he probably won’t but 10 years into Charles and Diana’s marriage no one was expecting them to divorce either, despite rumblings of infidelity in his part.

      • me50 says:

        I wouldn’t be surprised if William is waiting until the Queen dies to divorce Kate.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I see this too, me50. He’d work with Charles to hold off on getting the Prince of Wales title. It isn’t automatic, it has to be awarded by the monarch. That way, William moves on with a second wife as P&P of Wales, while Kate is the only one left using Cambridge. Even the kids would switch to Wales as their name.

    • February-Pisces says:

      I did a tarot reading in this recently to see if he would be king and it’s like he’s torn. I saw a bunch of negative cards like death which indicate some sort of ending. But as the outcome there was justice and queen of cups, with a bunch of other cards I can’t remember. Anyway from my reading what I found was that it could go either way, he is has a desire to walk off into the sunset with the woman he loves (who is not kate). A Pisces woman always shows up in his reading in his future, so I feel he will be at a cross roads. Even though Charles got divorced and still became king, William pretty much wants to ‘do a harry’ and choose personal happiness. I think as soon as he leaves Kate officially, he see’s it as the end of all of it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Interesting and thank you for sharing that. Look back at the AstroAmerica predictions about these two. W&K didn’t marry for love, they married out of fear of the world around them. Unhappy, if not cursed, union destined not to last.

        AA also predicted W&K, esp William, would walk off and leave their son and heir to fend for himself. William stepping aside and having the show go from Charles to George would fit.

      • February-Pisces says:

        I remember Astro America, I think the guy has since died though. I remember reading predictions that George could inherit the throne at a young age, I hope it isn’t because of death, and Willie just walks out it that did happen. Even if George inherits it in his 30s, he would still be really young. This was written before the wedding and it did predict George’s birth by a few days. I did see some tension behind the scenes so all might not be well between him and the courtiers, so they might decide William is a non starter and push him out and focus on George.

      • Kitty says:

        I don’t think the monarchy will last after The Queen.

  34. Vanessa says:

    I don’t know why the royal reporters continue to spin this lies about William and Kate story everyone remembers the true origin of their story . Every time Meghan and Harry are getting press the Cambridge’s have their goons speaks oh so positively about them this like the 10 revision history of William and kate grand love story kate didn’t chased William he chased her oh please 🙄 . Kate was the only woman willing to put up with William she was literally the last girl standing he had no other options no one from the aristocracy world. Wanted to be involved with him so he had to go with kate I’m sure if he could of gotten a true aristocracy he would dump Kate within two seconds . Kate is willing to put up with anything and everything because all she cares about is titles and her family place in the world . No respectable woman would put up with William if he wasn’t the heir to heir of throne I doubt kate and her mother would have hound him for 10 plus years I doubt kate would have put up with all the cheating and being humiliated by the aristocracy world if not for being able to be queen .

  35. MsIam says:

    If she is keeping him happy, the why is he always “incandescent with rage” especially about things that have nothing to do with him, like his brother’s life and marriage. A “happy” person wouldn’t have time to be bothered about things like that. I’m guessing these articles are just like the ones they write about the Sussexes where the opposite of what they say is true. You know the ones where Harry is a miserable hostage?

  36. HeatherC says:

    I doubt they’ll ever divorce. However, as the years go by it will be come more evident that they are living separate lives. Kate will be “too busy” or there will be a “scheduling issue” or something with the kids and William will take a “friend” to some event. As long as Kate gets that crown, she and her mom will be fine with it. “Oh you’re sleeping with my husband? that’s adorable. I’m still queen.” She will become harder as the time passes and William will become more indifferent.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “However, as the years go by it will be come more evident that they are living separate lives.”

      Which is totally acceptable to the British Establishment and British Titled Aristocracy.

      • MsIam says:

        BTB that may have worked in the days before social media or it may work for some anonymous aristocrat. But if its true that the Cambridges are living separate lives and the word gets out? There will be hell to pay. I read an article about how hard the palace worked to cover up Charles and Diana’s miserable marriage and I get same vibe about these two.

    • Candikat says:

      I wonder if she’s realizing that what she wants has changed. Sure she wanted the prince and the crown at age 18-21, many young women probably do. And then she was infantilized through her twenties, so kept thinking she wanted it during the growth period when most young women realize it’s either not a realistic dream or it’s not all its cracked up to be. And then she got the prize, and continued to be infantilized through the first several years of her marriage.

      But the fact is, what you want changes. Peasant or princess, your hopes mature and become more realistic as you age. There’s a lot of talk here about W wanting out, and maybe he does, but what if K wants out? What if her fidgety thin unhappiness is because SHE has realized that SHE wants out and has nobody, not even her mother, to turn to? Just a thought experiment…

      • Nic919 says:

        It didn’t help that her own parents valued title and access to status as more important than being respected. No decent parent would have let Kate stay with a man who treated Kate as poorly as William did during the dating years. So when your own parents are telling you to stay with him, that makes it even harder.

      • Susan says:

        I think this is very well said and a valid point. I feel like when she was younger she had some light in her eyes and was less awkward than she is now. Most people get *better* with age. This sounds cruel but she’s gotten worse. Worse at smiling, interacting, talking, faking interested, etc. As the product of an abusive mother, I can speak firsthand that those things that happened in your formative years don’t….just go away. I still hear her mean comments in my head and it makes me anxious. I feel like Kate is a big bag of insecurities and damage. Anyone noticed all the bandaids on her fingers?

      • JT says:

        The thing is, Meghan would have been an excellent ally for Kate. Meg is a girl’s girl. As a woman with ambition and a sense of sisterhood, Meghan could have helped Kate with her role. Bonus that Meghan is the only woman in their circle who doesn’t want to sleep with Will. But Kate is so competitive she failed to see a blessing in disguise. Part of her unhappiness is that she doesn’t have anything for herself; she has nothing real around her, not even friendships. They could have been a real team. Look how much press their first tennis match got.

      • Margles says:

        @JT Honestly, I think someone like Meghan – ambitious, successful, driven, confident – would be hard for Kate to connect with. Kate has gained success by conforming; Meghan by asserting herself. Passivity vs. Activity.

      • JT says:

        @marlges I definitely agree that Kate’s insular existence would make it difficult to connect with Meghan or anything for that matter, but she didn’t even have to try. Meg was doing all of the heavy lifting in regards to building a relationship. Meg brought Kate a gift immediately upon meeting her, she doted on Charlotte, she wanted to meet up. All Kate had to do was accept it. Very passive as you said. It just would have been the smartest thing for her to do. To have an ally in that viper pit completely on your side could have been a game changer for her. We all know Kate is ruthless in that regard, so she should have thought ahead for a bit. Icing Meghan out only made her life harder, hence her exhaustedness and her feeling like H&M “threw her kids under the bus” now that she has to work more.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate viewed Meghan as competition from day one. This is someone who couldn’t be bothered to even offer a ride to go shopping. There was never any chance of Kate being friends with Meghan because Meghan was everything she wasn’t and Kate was trained by Carole to view that as a threat.

      • JT says:

        @nic I definitely agree that a friendship would’ve never happened with Kate because she’s just too jealous and insecure. But on a strategy level, Kate really fumbled the bag. It would have been so advantageous. It would been in a keep your enemies close kind of way, but it would’ve helped rather than hurt her.

      • Amy Too says:

        I feel like now that she has produced her three kids and she has secured the fact that one of her kids will eventually be on the throne, she might be fine with divorcing William, not getting to be Queen Consort, but then being able to come back once George is on the throne. Then she’ll be the real actual top dog female royal, the King’s mother, she will have his ear and she will be the matriarch of the royal family without actually having to work and do engagements and projects other than balcony waves. I think she’s realizing that she doesn’t like being a working royal and she’s not good at it and she’s not going to be able to hide that for much longer. She can’t just keep saying she’s a newlywed learning the ropes, she’s a mother staying home for the kids, she’s new to being a full time royal so she’s taking her time, oh now she’s a new mother again, and again. She’s getting to the point now where she’s going to be forced to work and do more. And as William ascends to POW and then to King, she’s going to have to do more WITH him. And she doesn’t like him. And she doesn’t like working with him.

        It seems like “taking an early retirement” from royal work by getting divorced and skipping all the hard working years, but still having the publicity/public love for being the mum of a future king and probably still being invited to those high profile fun things she likes where she just gets to dress up and wave (like weddings or Trooping), and then coming back to be in charge of it all later (again, without being expected to actually work) with her own kid on the throne to take care of her financially, emotionally, and publicity-wise is exactly the sort of thing that Kate might choose for herself if she could.

  37. February-Pisces says:

    Meghan gets praised on social media for actually saving harry from his ratchet family, so I think this is another one of Keens cosplays like “I can save a prince too”. Also dedicating her life to making her husband happy? Is this another reason why she hasn’t dedicated herself to anything else at all and has no passions or achievements in life, because keeping Willie happy is a full time job.

    • Kalana says:

      I thought of that tweet. The Middletons also want that narrative for Kate and William but then they also want Kate to be considered the perfect and most accepted royal and you can’t have both narratives.

      Interesting though that we’re getting back to where it’s okay to criticize the royals and royal life again. When the family and press were trying to scapegoat the Sussexes, the BRF was held up as perfect.

    • HeatherC says:

      Oh the Middletons feel that Kate topped Meghan. Not only did she “save her prince” by being a subservient doormat, she “saved” the whole damn monarchy by being a subservient doormat.

      Massive eyeroll.

    • Ginger says:

      If she is dedicating her life to make William happy then no wonder she is exhausted. He is nothing but a rage monster , it seems.

  38. Coco says:

    I think it would be funny if William and Kate decide to get pregnant again out of spite (because trying to spite his brother is probably the only reason William would agree to it) and wind up with quintuplets.

  39. Maevo says:

    Good theory about why they are suddenly using Sandringham! I thought it was so weird when that detail came out. I mean probably the 3 kids with 2 of them doing some kind of remote school makes for a busy house, but really there’s no room in Anmer that they can retreat to?? William must be such an incandescent a**hole during lockdown. There’s no way he wants to spend that much time with the kids.

  40. Lory says:

    Wow. Then she has failed miserably.

  41. Keroppi says:

    We need to rethink the idea that Kate doesn’t work. Keeping William happy is likely a full-time job! I imagine she walks on eggshells around him (when she is around him).

    He gives me the impression that he is like a petulant toddler* that is always a hair-trigger away from a meltdown.

    *No offense to toddlers, whatsoever! Toddlers are in the process of learning self-regulation, as opposed to grown men who were never required to do so.

    • notasugarhere says:

      From staff accounts, it is Carole who has kept the peace between these two for years. W&K have huge fights and screaming matches, staff refer to Kate as Prickly Princess. Carole has been there, for almost twenty years, to shove these two back together.

      The talk a couple months ago of Carole looking to buy a new house in Norfolk? That leads me to believe W&K are on serious outs right now, Carole knows William is headed for the door. That’s why we get all these pro-Kate PR stories out of Camp Middleton.

      • Julia K says:

        Good point. If there is a split, Kate will have a financial settlement and Carole is up shit creek without a paddle.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She won’t even get that if William paid part of the Middletons new home. That could be considered a post-nup.

      • Margles says:

        I seriously doubt William would ever divorce Kate. He got a front-row seat to how his father’s reputation was tanked and William, whatever else he is, is devoted to keeping his position and popularity with the public.

      • notasugarhere says:

        William would want to divorce Kate without any hint of an outside third party. As long as he can keep the rest of his affairs quieter than Rose? Gives him a chance to sell the ‘relationship of friends, stress of royal life’ as their reason for divorce. That way, he gets rid of Kate and he gets to keep his divorce ‘cleaner’ than his father’s.

  42. Valiantly Varnished says:

    Imagine writing something like this in 2021 and thinking it’s a good thing. These people are truly dinosaurs.

  43. Flying Fish says:

    This makes Kate look pathetic and spineless.

  44. K says:

    Ffs, as the kids say.

  45. Bex says:

    And yet, he still trims rose bushes, breaks the bench with lawyers, and carries a torch for an old flame.

    But hey…Tradwife Kate got the “Prince”.

  46. CuriousCole says:

    I *just* got out of a four years long abusive relationship after learning he cheated for a year with a second girlfriend. The line about Kate devoting her life to making him happy, that is something I know now to be a red flag. Giving and giving to someone who only takes, who never seems proud to be with you (and I am pretty damn amazing), who makes disparaging comments about you to others, and all the lines about his temper, which is how I’d always describe mine… run Kate, run. Not saying he gets violent like mine did but that’s not the only form of abuse.

  47. Cerise says:

    William was much more damaged by his upbringing than Harry.

    Can you imagine while War of the Wales was going full force the entirety of the royal family and courtiers were briefing the second in line to the throne that his mother was a horrible person and that it was all her fault for the family unrest.

    We have seen this all the times where one parent “monsters” the other parent but in Williams case, she died and he wasn’t allowed to morn.

    Then he marries this fictitious idea of a woman that they all said would bring him happiness because she was the opposite of his mother… and he is miserable.

    Harry being the spare was not taken seriously THANK GOD because this family has a habit of destroying the souls of the heirs.

    Harry loves the army not because of any false sense of patriotism but because this guys became his family. They actually supported one another something that is rare in his own family.

    Harry was smart enough not to follow the same mistakes of his father and brother and just marry someone for love THE FIRST TIME.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      The Windsor’s really do destroy the souls of the heirs and the lives of the spares. Harry was smart to get out when he finally found a person who always has his back.

  48. lili says:

    CC2 said it best for me. “I think the truth is more simple than we think. Will and Kate have their cute moments, Olympics being one of them. There are moments when they look like they like each other, and moments where Will is embarrassed. I think a lot of their relationship is platonic. I don’t buy that Will is utterly embarrassed by her and hates her. That just seems to be projection by cb posters IMHO, who genuinely wants to believe that their marriage was not built out of love at all.

    The reality is most likely that William wants the anti Diana, Kate was suitable, and they have a nice friendship there. Maybe love bere and there. Both knew what they want but it’s not all fake. Will has his moments of defending her, he’s just awfully hot and cold with her. More cold than hot

    The Sussexes probably strained things because it emphasised how a husband and wife should look like.”

    • notasugarhere says:

      We all see what we see, lili. Many of us can recount dozens of times William has rolled his eyes, clenched his fists, and barely held himself in check when Kate is around. He’s never been faithful to her, never will be. Has always done his best to live separately from her as Wiglet Watcher detailed above. He tolerates her when she is convenient, but his tolerance has grown very thin in the last few years.

      • Leni says:

        @Harper Yeah that was really weird because even when she came up to him he barely looked at her, he just gave her a side glance didn’t even really look at her dress or anything. 🥴

    • Maria says:

      It wasn’t built out of love, lol. This dude didn’t even turn around to look at her when she walked down the aisle and she had to hoist herself up into the carriage for the wedding procession while he sat there and watched her.
      He didn’t even have her meet the Queen until 2008 and he ditched her during that event (his cousin’s wedding) to go be with Jecca Craig.
      The list goes on.

      • Harper says:

        Yes, I recently re-watched parts of their wedding on YouTube and Will had his back to her the entire processional. Have you ever seen a groom not watch his bride come up the aisle or turn and smile and meet her eyes? Talk about the cold shoulder…. brrrrrrrrr. I bet Carole was fuming at the disrespect when she rewatched it back at home.

      • Kalana says:

        Charles would do that to Camilla too. The heirs are hothouse flowers. William would treat everyone that way.

      • The Duchess says:

        Wasn’t Kate also caught on camera during the wedding saying the words “are you happy?” to William as they got into the carriage for the procession? Who says that to their husband on their wedding day? Seems like Kate has been living on her nerves for her entire adult life, all to please this rage monster.

        If Kate knew what was good for her, she’d hire a good therapist, clear off her stage mother and start putting herself first. But we all know she’d rather take the tiaras and the jewels before she would ever help herself or her own children for that matter. What a sad and tragic life she’s living. History will not be kind to her and she will realise this when it is far too late.

        I think a large part of her already has realised that the only thing she has going for her (future Princess of Wales title, then Queen Consort) can easily be taken away. Hence the PR articles glorifying her to stop Baldy from straying. Again, what a sad life.

    • Nic919 says:

      Watch the video of her trying to give a speech during the Pakistan tour and William is sure as hell embarrassed by her. Only a blind person doesn’t see that.

      • This is so true NIC919. I feel so sorry for her when it took her a long time nervously flipping through the pages of her notes and the camera showed William looking embarrassed, irritated, and annoyed but had to hold in his temper. He caught himself and changed his reaction giving his wife applause after she ended her speech. Hypocrite.

  49. Margles says:

    Yikes. I think I like Kate more than most people here and I certainly hope that her whole life isn’t devoted to making William happy. What a horrifying thought!

    Frankly, no human being should have another human being around who devotes their entire being to making them happy. Unhealthy for both parties, I would think.

    • Maria says:

      I think any of us that liked or wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt are now firmly in the “dislike” camp because of her treatment of Meghan, and I don’t think that’s unfair.

      William’s reputation will never be damaged by divorce the way Charles’s was because the divorce wasn’t even what tarnished Charles’s reputation, it was all the infidelity and smears and bad behavior behind it.
      That doesn’t mean Will and Kate WILL divorce, I have no way of knowing that. But William is in a much stronger position to divorce than Charles was during the Wars of the Waleses.

  50. RedWeatherTiger says:

    To me, this article seemed to be a fun-house mirror version of the articles that suggest Meghan has changed Harry for the better, that with her by his side in partnership, Harry has become a better, stronger, happier, and more successful man. But it all went crooked. Instead of making it seem like Kate’s support and love helped Bill to be a good man who will be a good king, the article suggests that Kate’s literal selflessness (she has no self!) has successfully made a selfish man even more so.

  51. NJ says:

    pitiful . shame on Kate for throwing her life away for wealth and title. such a weak character for a future queen.

  52. I think all this news about Kate making William happy, Kate calling William her greatest support, William to make Kate feel special on Valentine’s Day, Kate wanting baby number 4 is all a cover to conceal the real state of the Cambridge marriage. Something is going on in that marriage the RRs have long known about but don’t want to touch and reveal. I think Kaiser is right the Queen let them use the Sandringham House, which is nearby Anmer Hall, so that William and Kate can hide the real situation of their union. Kate and William are living separate lives now– William in Sandringham House and Kate at Anmer Hall. This may be the reason why Kate nervously fidgets a lot with William around. She’s so self-conscious around her husband. She comes across like she doesn’t welcome his presence at all. And he, in return, looks so pissed off whenever Kate opens her mouth to speak to the point that he seems embarrassed and doesn’t give her a glance. Just wondering why the carnival of royal experts has not called their all-time body language experts to read and interpret their gestures and non-verbal cues.

  53. All l can say is that Kate’s uncle Gary knocked his wife out cold . Filmed inviting undercover reporters to take drugs and secure prostitutes. Yet Meghan’s background is “unsuitable”? What the heck?

  54. candy says:

    “She did play it smart… for a stalker with a plan!” LMAO! Um yea, she chased William to hell (not that there’s anything wrong with that, necessarily). Where Kate’s maturity faltered, Carol stepped in at every turn making sure there was no permanent breakup. Again, I have no judgement about the original love story, but I don’t buy this fairytale version.

  55. yinyang says:

    The more they do this the more unlikeable she gets. Really the only time she had personality was when she was chasing Wills…and that was ugly.

  56. Amy Too says:

    People keep saying this but can you be a good mother and a terrible example of a woman/worker/royal/sister-in-law at the same time? She’s a terrible example of an independent woman. She is not showing her children that women need to be treated with respect and marriages need to be an equal partnership. Can you be considered a good mother if you’re not really a good person? When you throw people under the bus and leak lies about them and give them horrible B*tch faces IN CHURCH? When you hang racist slave paintings in the home that your children live in? When you not only live off tax payer money but spend it extravagantly on things like multiple kitchens and multiple renovations for each of those kitchens one right after the other? And you’re raising your kids to live the same way? Can you be considered a good mother if you’re raising your kids with the heir/spare/bonus kid theme? Sending one out for special photo shoots and meetings with great granny, allowing one to receive gifts when the others don’t, allowing one to be written about in the press as the “serious little future king” and the other as the “cheeky, spirited one” and the other hardly at all? And it’s not like she’s a good mother because she’s the one who is busy taking care of her kids all the time by herself, fulfilling all their needs, making all their doctor appointments, driving them to and from school and sports, helping them with schoolwork— she’s not. She has nannies and tutors and staff and assistants.

    I think she likes her children and I think she loves her children. But does that make her a good mother? Is that enough to get extra praise for your parenting and have “at least she’s a great mother” be her saving grace when she sucks in all other aspects of her life?

  57. notasugarhere says:

    Given her childrens public response to her, turning to the nanny for comfort and refusing to mind Kate? As others have written, Kate likes her kids, but she isn’t the mainstay, 24/7 love and care giver in their lives.

  58. Gina says:

    Agree completely!👍

  59. MipMip says:

    @Amy- Preach!

    The “she’s a good mother” trope is pulled out when there is nothing else you can say about a woman.

    Aside from everything you mention above we don’t actually know if Kate is a good mother. We actually have very little insight into how she is raising her kids, but what we do know is not flattering.

  60. Nic919 says:

    No one will know if she’s a good mother until the kids are adults. At that point we will know. And we will certainly hear more about how William wasn’t around much. He basically admitted that himself last year pre covid.

  61. February-Pisces says:

    Diana who was technically even more blue blooded that Charles, tried to instill a sense of normalcy in her sons lives. I remember hearing how she took them on the bus and tried to do as many normal things with them as possible. She wanted them to see the world outside palace gates. She didn’t want them to grow up as royal commodities but as well rounded young men. I think the palace were afraid of the influence Diana had on William and Harry.

    Kate in the other hand shows her children no such thing. It’s just 100% luxury all the time. There is nothing humble about Kate. Her laziness means she will never teach her kids about achievement and work ethic. Her constantly throwing family under the bus means she will never teach them the importance of family loyalty. Her insecure jealous ways means she will never teach Charlotte to not let her insecurities get the better of her, but to destroy every girl she is threatened by. Titles and status come before true love and happiness.

    Ultimately William and Kate my love their kids, but together they are two very messed up people with morally bankrupt family’s either side of them. I hope their children find their own way in life like harry did.