I honestly have not watched HBO’s Allen v. Farrow docuseries. The series traces the huge criminal and civil proceedings around Woody Allen and Mia Farrow when the sh-t hit the fan in the early 1990s, when Woody left Mia for her adopted daughter Soon-Yi Previn, and Mia in turn accused Woody of molesting their daughter Dylan. I believe Woody Allen is trash and that he’s disgusting and abusive with women and girls. I believe Dylan is a victim, and that she’s still really traumatized. But… I also believe Mia is not all that she seems. It’s chaotic for me to see people try to relitigate what happened in those Allen-Farrow years, especially when they’re doing so through a docu-series which is heavy on the narrative Mia has created. So there’s been some conversation online about Mia’s other children, beyond Dylan, Ronan Farrow and Soon-Yi. She adopted a lot of kids over the years and some of them passed away, and some of them are no longer speaking to her. Mia tried to clarify why those children were not mentioned in the HBO docuseries:
Mia Farrow is opening up about the deaths of her three late children Tam, Lark and Thaddeus. The actress, 76, shared a lengthy statement on Twitter Wednesday to address “vicious rumors” she said have been circulating recently about their deaths.
“As a mother of fourteen children, my family means everything to me,” Farrow began. “While I chose a career that placed me in the public arena, most of my children have elected to live very private lives.”
Farrow explained that she is “selective” in what she posts to social media to respect their wishes to remain private — but in light of “vicious rumors based in untruths” that she said have “appeared online” concerning her three late adoptive children, she decided to speak out.
“My beloved daughter Tam passed away at 17 from an accidental prescription overdose related to the agonizing migraines she suffered, and her heart ailment,” Farrow said. Lark, who died in 2008, was described by Farrow as an “extraordinary woman, a wonderful daughter, sister, partner and mother to her own children…She died at 35 from complications of HIV/AIDS, which she contracted from a previous partner,” she said. “Despite her illness she lived a fruitful and loving life with her children and longtime partner. She succumbed to her illness & died suddenly in the hospital on Christmas, in her partner’s arms.”
Farrow then shared that her “courageous” son Thaddeus took his own life at 29 after a relationship of his abruptly ended.
Online speculation about the deaths of Tam, Lark, and Thaddeus arose after they were not mentioned in the recent HBO documentary Allen v. Farrow. Some critics resurfaced Farrow’s estranged son Moses’ 2018 blog post that criticized her and other family members.
“These are unspeakable tragedies,” Farrow wrote in her Wednesday statement. “Any other speculation about their deaths is to dishonor their lives and the lives of their children and loved ones.” The Rosemary’s Baby actress concluded her post by saying she is “grateful” to be the mother of 14 kids and grandmother of 16.
“Although we have known sorrow, our lives today are full of love and joy,” she wrote. “Everyone has their own battle to fight; their own sorrows that gnaw. I send you my best hopes and my love.”
I honestly didn’t know that three of her fourteen children had passed away over the years, nor was I familiar with the circumstances. I feel sorry for Tan, Lark and Thaddeus’s families and friends for what they’ve gone through. I do know that there has been some conversation about Moses Farrow, who spoke out against Mia in 2018, detailing what he witnessed of her behavior and Woody’s behavior during the 1990s. I also know that Mia doesn’t want to acknowledge Moses’s side, so here we are. Everything is so screwed up about this.
Regarding my children pic.twitter.com/ApiSeBFx9C
— Mia Farrow (@MiaFarrow) April 1, 2021
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red.
I think you would understand her and the family dynamics a lot better if you did watch the documentary and listen to the podcast. She came from an Irish family with lots of siblings as did her mother. She has survivors guilt from surviving polio as a child when many did not. By all accounts, she is a very sweet, loving attentive mom. You can see it for yourself with all of the home videos in the documentary. Woody is a master manipulator and she is still scared of him. Make no mistake that she is a victim of DV .
well said, it’s an important doc and helped recalibrate the lies spewed all these many years from the Allen machine over the years, inc that Allen was exonerated (he wasn’t), that Moses knows what went on the day w Dylan and also slams Mia as a mother (not corroborated by any of the other siblings and his story is v diff now than then…), the painting of Mia as unstable etc.
It’s actually enraging that Allen’s gotten away w it all for so long, while Mia’s been the one vilified and damaged professionally, financially, etc. And why Mia, because Allen’s PR machine knew that was a smarter tack than going after Dylan. It’s all just too familiar for words these days… I really think it’s worth watching with an open mind. Also, when people — not here but elsewhere — say we shouldn’t litigate this in the media now — then here’s yet another reason why there should not be a statute of limitations on things like this, esp w so much contemporaneous evidence. I really feel for Dylan on this one… As Dylan said, why is it so hard to believe that her father molested her…
There’s also v important info on the parental alienation trap (built on junk “science” in the first place) that Allen helped weaponize and that now leads so many to under-report abuse, or be punished for reporting on it, often with losing custody to the abuser (!), and may help explain Angelina Jolie’s situation… That part was really eye-opening…
Also
DYLAN never had a chance to tell her story.
And she finally wrote 2 essays but had never really gone deep and Ronan realized he hadn’t either. This is NOT relitigating !!!! This is Dylan telling her story and Mia telling hers thru a lens that they can trust. With Ronan, a respected journalist, supporting them and championing them.
It is DYLANS RIGHT TO TELL HER STORY!!!!!
Well said! I think everyone needs to see the documentary because a huge thing I took away was understanding how much of a passive PR and media campaign Woody launched against Mia. I was only a kid at the time but even I absorbed a lot of that twisted narrative he created. I also really trust the documentary filmmakers. They have made films on child abuse before and one even admitted that going into this project, she didn’t expect to have her mind changed as a person in her 50s.
I could go on and on because I think it is a really important watch on so many levels!
totally agree. It was wild to see some of the ‘buts’ that were in my head laid out as part of Woody’s PR machine. Even in this article when it says Woody left Mia and she in turn accused him. That statement of causation is totally part of the PR strategy he used.
There really shouldn’t be a “but.” Allen raped two of Mia’s children (one statutory). Even though the doc is from Mia’s side, you can see that she has some issues, none of which alter the fact that Allen raped two of her children.
I really am not surprised that there are vicious accusations defending a serial molester. I don’t care what Mia has done, she didn’t make up the story about Dylan, a judge at the time determined that.
Mia is not perfect, but no one is. No one is the perfect accuser. Woody Allen makes me absolutely sick and the way our society has ignored what he did in the light of day is bad enough.
The documentary series is the side no one heard all of these years and it’s stomach turning.
The only child other then Soon-Yi to come out and spoken negatively about Mia is Moses and there is quite a lot in the documentary about why that is. Ronan has said on record that Woody told him he would pay for college and give him money if he spoke out against his mom. Moses never spoke out against Mia until he was over 30 and in a nasty divorce, when he was in desperate need of money. He is taking Woody’s money. I hope you will watch the doc and understand it is not a “scenario” that Mia has given out. In fact she has never spoken about it. It’s Woody who has driven the “crazy woman scorned narrative” with his horrendous PR and bot push, and it’s misogynistic, abusive and transparent. He married his sons and daughter’s SIBLING. The child of his long time girlfriend’. If that is not abuse and a sign, I don’t know what is. I worry so much about the daughter’s he adopted.
I did watch it, I had forgotten about the money re Moses, thank you for making that point. I am not sure if you meant to quote “ scenario” at me re my comment above? I don’t see it in my comment and I don’t believe this was all Mia, it is clearly laid out that many professionals believed Dylan way back then.
At any rate, I believed Dylan when I read her essay. I have also witnessed up close how Hollywood worships Woody and tried to destroy Mia and Dylan.
Weird to read all of these defenses of Woody when he MARRIED another child he was a father figure. God he makes me sick and the defense of him in here is the upsetting. Poor Dylan.
I too worry about his adopted daughters. I met Woody and one of his daughters two summers ago and I got some very creepy vibes.
I think Mia is a crackpot. I’ve been a fan of Farrow for a very long time and the more I learn about her, the more I think she is a crackpot. But before anyone attacks me for saying that, I also think Allen is weirdo and a predator. I think these two people are very troubled.
This is where I kinda am, too…no one in this story seems very stable. I read Moses’ statement linked above and it seems so matter of fact and makes sense. Mia seems vindictive and controlling. But then Allen’s films and demonstrated behaviour (marrying his girlfriend’s daughter is totally offside) don’t support his declarations of innocence. I just feel confused and sad for everyone involved in this disastrous family.
“Two people are very troubled” – maybe. But only one sexually abused at least two children.
That should matter.
There’s a transcript somewhere of the judge in the original trial going ham on the accusation that Mia coached Dylan. People both sidesing this are gross and want to justify their continued marking of Woody Allen films for intellectual cred.
Allen v. Farrow makes it very clear that Allen lawyered up and smeared Mia the moment the allegations against him were made. (The pediatrician called the police, not M.F.) They painted her as the jealous, scorned woman who coached her youngest daughter to make false accusations against him. He then doubled-down and married Sun Yi, in order to “prove” his intentions toward her were legit (despite the fact she had been secretly visiting his apartment while she was still in high school)
He is a scum bag predator with the financial means to continue his gas-lighting smear campaign against his former partner for decades.
It makes me sad that MF has to discuss the deaths of three of her children due to internet gossip
Maybe this is an American thing but everything has to be black and white or all good or all bad. Sometimes things are grey.
It’s entirely possible and more likely than not that Mia wasn’t the best parent and the Woody was also a molester. Both things can be true without making one the absolute hero and one the absolute villain. They don’t even have to be equal in their badness. Mia may be a minorly bad parent and Woody can still be a huge danger to children. There doesn’t need to be a false dichotomy.
I feel like you’re going to get flack for this comment but I do agree.
I agree. The problem is that the relatively minor sins of Mia are used to completely exonerate the relatively major sins of Woody. Mia should not have to be perfect for Woodys crimes to be at all acknowledged.
This is really it, people expect accusers (of course she didn’t call the police, the pediatrician did) to be perfect people. They are just people, flawed. Those flaws do not exonerate the accused.
I can’t even talk about how woody has smeared Mia and his own daughter in public for DECADES. Dylan’s story makes me weep. I’m team children always and in this case there was so much evidence.
100% agree with Oh Hey. We always want everything to be black and white, one person to be good and the other to be evil and that’s just not how these things work.
Exactly right.
I was going to write the same thing.
I thought the same until I read the court docs after also watching the documentary and listening to the podcast. So yes, I totally agree, both things could be true, but I don’t think they are here at all — the patterns in Mia’s life point to a life of altruism overall (no one’s perfect but she’s tried) plus she had everything to lose for supporting her daughter and going up against Woody at the time. Woody’s patterns on the other hand showed an obsession w Dylan and w other v young girls over time, inc. Soon Yi… I don’t mean to shout btw, this whole story just really hit a nerve for me…
I’m an American, and I very much agree. (Including about your criticism of Americans often needing things to be clearcut and Manichean.) It’s not unusual for an enabler to marry a predator. There are different kinds of abuse, different kinds of bad parenting, and they often find each other.
This is all so gross.
While I can see that Mia was manipulated and a victim, she was likely also complicit in the abuse. The sweet mom you run to, but also the one that has her head so deep in the sand, she refuses to admit what’s happening right in front of her own eyes. So many people refuse to see the bad for the sake of “keeping the peace”.
When it came down to it, she admitted what had happened.
Something seems really off about her. I do remember some of her kids basically saying she was very abusive and crazy at some point several years ago. I remember my mom, who is a baby boomer (and remembers the divorce drama and those scandals), talking about Mia Farrow and the Woody Allen scandal and my mom mentioned that she didn’t trust either of them.I get the feeling that there was a lot of abuse and dark things happening at that home. It seems like some of the kids have totally different recollections of what the home life was than the other kids. To me that is a red flag. I don’t know if will ever really know exactly what went on in that home. I just hope the surviving children get the help and care they need to move forward from whatever they suffered us children.
Not to be argumentative, cuz your comment makes perfect sense, but just to say it is very typical with sexual abuse that many family members will defend the abuser and hate the accusers. That is the typical response, actually, and Moses always adored Woody so it’s easy to see how he could feel he was white knighting his dad figure.
The only children who have said that are allied with Woody: Soon-Yi and Moses.
It should be noted that Moses’ late account of what happened is thoroughly debunked by his own statements to police in the ‘90s and Woody’s testimony in the custody trial.
Woody Allen stalked the entire family relentlessly. He had PI’s following her, the babysitter, and the kids when they were out driving. He had them rummage through their garage. He taped her phone calls. This was stuff out of the Weinstein playbook.
Most of the garbage people have heard about her over the years comes directly from him and his allies.
I don’t think she’s saint, but there is no evidence that she was ever abusive or manipulative, and the judge in the custody case agreed. He stated quite clearly at the time that the only parent who tried to manipulate those children was Woody,
Something he continued to do after the case. Example: Offering years later to pay Ronan’s way through college and get him setup with high paying job prospects if (and only if) he would make a public statement denouncing both Mia and Dylan. Ronan refused.
Please go read Maureen Orth’s Vanity Faur piece that was *written at the time* and was a contemporaneous account of the events. She has also talked about how she had to fight to get that piece published and how culture desks run by white men that worshiped Allen were absolutely not interested in any “side” but his.
I think because his movies have been so so and he is just an old man now that people truly do not understand the degree of hero-worship the white men running magazines and newspapers had for him. They all wanted to be him. They all wanted to believe that some nerdy ugly outsider could also bag a 17 yro beauty. It’s nauseating.
100 percent. I don’t believe in black and white thinking. I think his smear campaign worked based on some of the comments here. I am just making the point that she is very misunderstood, not perfect, but misunderstood.
I agree about his movies. To me they are boring.
As a mom of adopted kiddos, I can guarantee that many of the children she adopted have traumatic backgrounds (and health issues) prior to joining her family, often leading to struggles with addictions. To blame her for her adult children’s choices is completely unfair and uncalled for.
I was thinking this as well. To be fair I don’t know much about her beyond the headlines, but there are a lot of “good” parents who have lost children to addiction, overdose, mental health issues, and other health problems.
ITA.
This is a really good point, and it’s not raised often enough. She chose to adopt children from traumatic backgrounds, many with mental and physical disabilities. The children who would have a harder time finding adoptive parents. We want to think that love can fix everything, but it can’t. Some traumas are too great.
Lets say Mia is a bad mom, this makes what Woody Allen did with Soon-Yi Previn unforgivable. Where was he when all of the supposedly terribleness of Mia was happening? He was in their lives, he did nothing to help except to manipulate one of the daughter into a sexual relationship. The amount of grooming that had to happen for Soon-Yi to see Woody Allen as a person to be with took years to achieve. If Soon-Yi was white would the public outcry in the 90’s be different? Did Soon-Yi being Asian prevented our society from seeing her as a victim? Did our stereotype of young girls of colour contributed to Woody Allen getting away with a crime against Soon-YI?
I always believed that Woody was a predator lurking in the wings, and that Mia was abusive to her adopted children. Woody was ready when Soon Yi was having a tough time with Mia and when the time was right, he pounced like the abuser/groomer that he is. Mia creating a chaotic environment for the kids is just the type of situation that these men seek out.
Dylan’s story is well-established. I wish Soon Yi and Moses’ side could be fully heard without them championing Woody. Coming out about the abuse that they suffered from Mia shouldn’t and doesn’t exonerate Woody at all. Soon Yi, I agree, is absolutely a double-victim in this situation (until she grew up and continued to stand by/defend her abuser). It’s complicated and messed up as all heck and I agree with all that there is no black and white here.
Mia Farrow was not an abusive parent. There is no evidence for that.
I don’t think Woody was just lurking in the the wings, he was abusing Soon-YI while he was with Mia…grooming is abuse. I think Soon-YI did not get the support she needed once those Polaroid pictures of her were discovered. I’m not a psychiatrist but Stockholm syndrome comes to mind.
Yep. If Mia was not a great mom, I feel that’s even more evidence against Woody Allen. Men seek out women who maybe don’t pay enough attention to their kids, in order to more easily abuse those kids.
I read the link with the recalled history by Moses. He is very believable. It is sad, whatever the truth is.
That’s what woody paid for. A believable retelling.
In the documentary, he is discredited with police reports which explicit contradicts his allegations. For example, he said there were no train tracks in the attic, but layout drawn by the police during their investigations shows trains tracks.
Its sad.
I don’t know much about this. Does the 16 grandchildren include Soon-Yi’s two girls?
I of course don’t know these people, but I think Woody Allen is awful and gross….and that something is not quite right with Mia. I say this as a mom to internationally adopted children, including two who were adopted with special needs. I’ve seen parents use their kids as a way to mask their own hurt and not every adoption story is a happy one. This does not exonerate Woody in any way – he is disgusting AND I question if Mia was the best mother to her kids. It’s an “and,” not a “but.”
Mia’s issues are actually pretty easy to understand and addressed in the doc if you read between the lines.
She was traumatized by having polio at a young age. She wanted to become a doctor. Then her brother died, and the large happy family she thought she had fell completely apart. Her father, whom she adored, quickly drank himself to death. She had to quit school to earn money as an actress to help her mother support her younger siblings.
She seems to have tried to recreate that “happy large family” by adopting scores of children. Some of those children – like Soon-Yi – came from backgrounds of profound abuse and neglect. I think she was well-intentioned, but I’m not sure she was fully prepared for what it would actually entail to adopt a child as traumatized as Soon-Yi. I’m not sure how well things like attachment disorders were understood in the 1970s.
You forgot to mention the reason why Mia spoke out about her dead children: her Twitter post showing a picture of her and Dylan and Ronan meeting Hilary Clinton that had Tam erased completely. Why would a loving mother do that?
This attack on Mia Farrow is textbook distraction. Woody Allen diddles little girls.
100% agree with you. He’s employed/paid off people to contribute to his own gaslighting of Mia. He’s f&cking gross and there isn’t anything to substantiate the claim she was abusive.
The documentary is good.
This has nothing to do with Woody Allen. Would *you* erase a beloved dead child from a photo?
Uh… probably because she still holds herself responsible for her kid’s death??? When my parents both passed away, I quietly took down the photos of them and stored them, because I couldn’t even look at their faces without immediately emotionally spiraling. It’s been almost 9 years and I’m just now able to look at those photos again — not because of the passage of time, but because of the amount of therapy and trauma-processing I’ve done.
We don’t know she erased a beloved dead child from a photo.
We know Page Six and Woody Allen backers are claiming to have “unearthed” a photo saying she did it – coincidentally *wink* *wink* right before the premier of the documentary. The premier was Feb. 21. Page Six is saying this now? hahaha a month and a half later(almost).
The picture I found on her twitter has Tam in it.
This is some next level whataboutism. Erasing a photo is not even same realm as sexually abusing two children.
God forbid the victims of abuse and gaslighting be imperfect.
Let’s talk about how you don’t like them instead of what he did.
Because Tam is no longer around to give consent for posting the photo. It’s not that difficult to explain if you’re not trying to defend child rapists in the process.
If anything, Mia having issues as a mother strengthens the case against woody- getting involved with a predator could be seen as a symptom of any problems Mia had at the time, you know?
I came to say the same.
You absolutely should watch the doc
Woody manipulated the press Harvey W style.
Woody must have lots of dirt on other monsters bc they protect their own and some powerful people conspired to help Woody.
Stop calling Soon Yi the adopted daughter ala Royal Tennenbaum. Instead, say that after helping raise Mias daughter, Woody groomed her and then abused her and then began a relationship with her which isolated her from everyone and everything she knew.
I believe that woody put his hands inside Dylan and told her he had to do it and “be quiet and I’ll take you to Paris”. I absolutely believe her.
Do NOT underestimate how brainwashed WE ALL WERE by the media to believe this idea that Mia was a woman scorned.
That actually makes No sense when you look at the entire story.
Also Moses initially stuck by Mia and only retracted after Woody threatened to withhold money and support. Woody definitely used money to turn Moses. I have no doubt.
The doc is a must watch
ITA, this is a compelling series.
Lots of facts were revealed, including that when Allen sued Farrow for custody of his children with Mia (Moses, Dylan, Ronan) the judge not only ruled that Mia was a fit parent, but rebuked Allen for the claims in the suit. The judge in the custody case ruled that Allen have only supervised visits with Dylan, and that Allen pay Farrow’s legal fees.
Again, Allen’s access to Dylan was limited by order of the judge in the custody suit Allen instigated-not as a result of the abuse investigation. That’s shocking and makes Allen look so much guiltier, imho.
A journalist who covered the custody trial (who admits he was a lifelong Woody Allen fan) says that after hearing Allen’s testimony, he never watched another Woody Allen movie.
Plus, I was shocked to learn that Allen and Farrow had been in therapy to address Allen’s fixation on Dylan before the discovery of the Soon-Yi polaroids.
Multiple things can be true: Woody is a true monster and evil, and Mia is not a good person. Refusing to whitewash Mia’s issues doesn’t mean one’s fallen for Woody’s PR schemes nor that one thinks their sins are on the same level (obvs. Woody is far, far worse). Frankly, Mia comes off as quite racist to me so I do get annoyed at people (and the media) painting her as some saint out to avenge her daughter…one can talk about Woody without glorifying Mia (hell, she doesn’t even have to be mentioned). And yes, I’m familiar with the situation (I know someone who basically wrote an academic paper which, by the way, condemned Woody as guilty and I read a lot of their sources).
Just was Woody has had a lot of media people help him out, so has Mia & they’ve managed to semi bury a lot of sh*t. Mia had her fam come out and say that Soon Yi was mentally disabled (she’s clearly not) to the point she was on the level of a pre teen, etc. Mia admits to assaulting Soon Yi (who does that…if I found out my boyfriend was sleeping with my 19 year old daughter, I would go after my boyfriend). If you read Mia’s book & some interviews over the year with her acquaintances/friends, she (and her pals) talk about Soon Yi is extremely dehumanizing terms…basically talk about her like she’s a f*cking dog. She posted a pic that photoshopped one of her adopted kids out and only showed her two white kids. She posted a pic that had a google search that said something like “Mia and her black kids.” Both Soon Yi and Moses accused her of physical abuse. One of her kids who died, or their partner, also accused her of being a terrible person to her adoptive kids and favoring her white kids. There’s more.
I’m sure she was a good parent to Ronan and Dylan. I also think, beyond what I wrote above, it’s pretty telling about Mia’s character that the white, blonde kids seem to adore her and the several of the POC kids were the ones who had issues, who accused her of abuse, etc. And no, it’s not okay to use Mia’s faults to sanitize Woody’s creep relationship with Soon Yi or to defend him about Dylan, but people other than Woody apologists do bring up Mia’s faults because Mia (and Ronan) have clearly done their own PR to paint her as some saint in recent years.
I completely agree with you. Both sides of this story seem to be .. interesting people. Not discrediting Dylan, but honestly Mia is a piece of work and people need to acknowledge that. The time that Dylan was abused was after Mia discovered the polaroids. Also, Mia’s brother was sentenced for child sex abuse.
Having watched it, I don’t think that is a fair assessment. The doc doesn’t rely on Mia as the sole narrator of this story. It relies heavily on court documents from the custody case (including testimony that contradicts Moses Farrow’s later accounts), the police records, and interviews with witnesses, psychologists, the prosecutor who handled the case. It isn’t all just Mia and Dylan. It was really well done.
Mia may not be a saint, but there is a really special place in hell for the Woody supporters who’ve tried to weaponize the deaths of her children. Imagine the stress that family endured not only because of Woody’s abuse, but because him dragging her into court and smearing her in the press.
I watched the 1st 2 episodes and then stopped. I was in elementary school when the news of Soon-Yi broke but fuzzy with anything referring to Dylan at the time. I will say my impression was that Mia has severe issues. I can see why Soon-Yi made the statements she did about her relationship with Mia. I peeped a lot of stuff with the story undercurrents that made Mia suspect. None of that means Woody was not a groomer or creepy or a molester but yeah I’m not buying Mia’s image because something was off there.
Concerning Moses, we can’t say we believe victims when they support a narrative we agree with but then come up with reasons to tear others down or cast doubt. Moses is a transracial adoption counselor. More specially he helps with trama from transracial adoptions. The adopted children seem to have a different trajectory from her other children. It is possible for this to be a lot of gray in this case. I just got a vibe from her during that documentary.
…I hesitate to write this but I wish you’d watch the whole doc before guessing/judging…it’s important to get the facts, and if you do, with an open mind, I think you’ll see they’re in Dylan’s (and Mia’s) favor, not Moses’, not Allen’s…I don’t have time to go into it all here, but Moses has been v inconsistent, as has Allen. And likely manipulated… Dylan has been completely consistent. And Mia, at great personal cost, has stood by her. The “vibe” approach to things like this can be so damaging…
I strongly believe in my opinion of Mia Farrow based on her direct words, actions, and details from her own mouth as well as the videos and photos presented in the documentary. I saw some red flags. Moses can recant whatever he wants in the name of money (which is one issue and horroble) but that doesn’t mean Mia was a great mom all the time to all her children. There are a lot of issues that concerned me and once again seeing the glaring differences between her adopted and non-adopted children were telling in the 2-3 episodes I viewed. Once again that doesn’t remove accountability from Woody. I think Mia has some issues and we should be able to acknowledge that without completing disregarding the emotions, outcomes, and feelings of her other children. Motherhood is tricky. You can be a great in the moment mom but a horrible all around mom or even a distant mom.
You really should watch the documentary.
As for Moses, he was super close to Allen until the problems over the child abuse began and then he was estranged. But as an adult, he has chosen to take Allen’s side again and what I noticed was how Ronan said that at one point Allen offered to pay for his own college and everything else IF HE WOULD GO AGAINST HIS MOTHER. So…factor that into Moses’ behaviour in recent years.
Woody Allen is gross. Mia Farrow comes off as very naïve and insecure (as a lot of actresses are). I don’t agree with all her parenting choices, but she doesn’t seem to be a bad person. Woody is a creepy, manipulative abuser and predator. Too bad Dylan was not in the headspace (as a child) to testify against him.
I realize both Moses and Soon Yi have incentives to lie about Mia but having said that, child abuse is very serious. They’re probably bringing this up to distract and help Woody, but it should be taken seriously and investigated properly because children are SO often ignored and mocked when they try to find help for their abuse. I say this as a child who was physically abused myself. I internalized I’d done wrong and didn’t understand till I was an adult how wrong and out of control my father was. It’s likely Mia was physically and mentally abusive to some of her adopted children. This is not uncommon behavior. She is not a saint. Her children ALL deserve justice.
However, her abuse should not ever be used the way Moses and Soon-Yi are bringing it up, in the interest of silencing another child, to excuse or distract from Woody Allen raping a child. He made his own choices and he’s walking around free. He should go the way of Weinstein. I’m absolutely sick of old white rapist men getting off free.
Honestly, I want to believe both Dylan and Moses. Mia also clearly, as Moses describes, has/had issues. I feel terrible they had to go through that, had horrible parents. In the end it’s the children that I feel sorry for.
So, I didn’t know Allen had relationship with teenagers before all that happened with Soon-Yi and Dylan. At least two are very known and for the life of me I can’t believe how people have ever dismissed them??? He is an actual predator and a sex-addict. What other doubt is there?
The things he’s gotten away with just because ‘it was the 70s /etc’.. it’s horrifying.
I believe Mia and I also think that she’s as loving a mom as she comes across as. The real villain here is Woody, and nothing that anyone says can change that. This man molested his own daughter and likely Soon-Yi. We don’t know the others he’s hurt. He’s powerful and white and a man and has got off scot-free with hurting women. That’s where we are. No “buts”.
I don’t believe Mia abused her children. I think she’s the kind of woman who’s very well-meaning, but not practical, and probably terrible at the everyday logistics of daily life. That can be fine if it’s only you, or manageable with one or two neurotypical, able-bodied children, but throw in special needs and physical disabilities and abuse trauma and it’s chaos. What also sucks is the type of person who would take on so many profoundly hurt and needy children is often more well-meaning than capable.
I do believe she’s a crazy woman but I definitely also believe that Woody molested Dylan. There are witnesses of his inappropriate behavior. It’s not just Mia. And he behaved inappropriatly with Soon-Yi too. I think Mia just had too many kids and couldn’t actually take proper care of them all. If you talk to people with many siblings they usually don’t have a good relationship with their parents since a lot of the parenting is done by their siblings.