Prince Harry plans to go to the UK, and he spoke to his father & his York cousins


I have no idea if it was really the case where Prince Harry was his grandfather’s favorite grandchild, but that’s certainly how the British press is making it sound. It’s well-known that Princess Anne was Philip’s favorite child, but was Harry really Philip’s favorite grandchild? Could be. The more photos I see of Philip when he was younger, the more I see Harry as well – I’d always thought Harry took after the Spencers, but no, there’s a lot of Philip in him, looks-wise. Anyway, we do know that Harry adores his grandparents and everyone is now confirming that Harry will fly into the UK to attend the Duke of Edinburgh’s funeral next Saturday. A source told the NY Post: “Harry was extremely close to his grandfather. He will, of course, be there, no matter how difficult relations are between the Sussexes and the family.” The Daily Mail did a long-ass story about it too, including details about which members of the family he’s spoken to:

Prince Harry has spoken to senior members of the Royal Family as he plans his return to Britain for Prince Philip’s funeral- but pregnant Meghan Markle will stay in the US. The Duke of Sussex is said to be making arrangements for his first trip home since the pair quit royal life and moved out to California, as well as their interview with Oprah last month. Meghan is expected to skip the journey and stay in their California home as she is pregnant with the couple’s second child.

Sources say Prince Harry has already spoken to family members including Prince Charles, Beatrice and Eugenie, according to the Mirror. The source said: ‘He said he wants to be with everyone and was already making arrangements to come home.’

Earlier today the couple paid a short tribute to Prince Philip following news of the Duke of Edinburgh’s death. In a post on their Archwell website, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex paid tribute to his grandfather with the two line message: ‘Thank you for your services… You will be greatly missed.’

Prince Harry’s return to the UK for his grandfather’s funeral will be a pivotal moment for a divided Royal Family still nursing deep wounds over his and Meghan’s bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview. Harry will be attending the event at St George’s Chapel, Windsor, most likely next week, and although there has been no word on whether heavily-pregnant Meghan would join him, it is believed unlikely in the circumstances. Harry is likely to make the journey to London by private jet from his home near Los Angeles and it is understood he may be permitted to use a diplomatic exemption to waive the normal Covid quarantine rules applying to flights from the USA. It has been reported that Harry was already largely self-isolating at the £11m mansion near Santa Barbara from when his grandfather entered hospital. It is not known where he will stay during his stay in the UK, nor for how long he will remain after the funeral.

The reunion of the Duke of Sussex with his brother William and father Prince Charles will be awkward enough following his and Meghan’s shocking accusations of racism in the TV show aired only last month. Despite the obvious rift, the Queen will expect her grandsons to put on a united front, along with the rest of the Royals as a mark of respect for the late Duke of Edinburgh. Whether the unity will prove more than a public façade remains to be seen, but some royal sources hope that the brothers’ first meeting for more than a year could lead to some kind of reconciliation.

If Meghan were to join Harry for the funeral, a royal rapprochement is considered less likely to happen, particularly after she told Oprah that Kate has made her cry during the run-up to her wedding.

[From The Daily Mail]

If Meghan goes to the funeral, “a royal rapprochement is considered less likely to happen, particularly after she told Oprah that Kate has made her cry…” What in God’s name is wrong with these people. They’re nursing a f–king grudge against Meghan because she… corrected a false story. I have no doubt that IF Meghan did go to the funeral, the family would put their noses in the air and ignore her and the press would be snide to her. Which is why I’m glad she’s not going. The Sussexes’ spokesperson confirmed everything on Saturday: Harry “is planning to attend” the funeral” and Meghan “has been advised by her physician not to travel.”

As for Harry… my guess is that he’s already been vaccinated anyway, which makes the whole quarantine logistics kind of moot, but whatever. At this point, I hope he only flies in for a few days, spends a bit of time with his grandmother and attends the funeral and flies back. But of course the royal commentators are doing their thing:

Prince Philip’s funeral could be Harry’s chance to repair the ‘deep damage’ caused by his and Meghan’s bombshell Oprah interview, royal experts said today – as the Duke of Sussex spoke to senior members of the Royal Family ahead of his expected return to Britain.

Penny Junor told MailOnline: ‘My hope is that if something good can come out of the Duke’s death it will be that it brings the family together. But clearly there is a lot of hurt there on all sides, and I imagine they will all be feeling apprehensive about seeing one another again. With luck, their desire to support the Queen and pull together for her sake, which I am sure is what the Duke would have wanted, will win the day.’

Meanwhile, Richard Fitzwilliams, said a ‘show of unity’ was vital for repairing relations after the ‘very damaging’ Oprah revelations, as he pointed to the strong relationship between Harry and his grandfather. ‘Harry will undoubtedly want to be there and this might start a process which helped to heal the current royal rift,’ he said. ‘His grandfather would undoubtedly welcome it if the monarchy, the institution he spent his life supporting, was strengthened as a result of the start of a reconciliation which began after his death.’

[From The Daily Mail]

They have to hype the expectations for a royal reunion so they’ll have sh-t to write when Harry is only there for a few days and they get photos of Harry and the Other Brother glaring at each other. Despite the Windsors’ anger and the media’s anger, everything that Harry said in the Oprah interview still stands. He can grieve for his grandfather and still be tired of his family’s toxicity.

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Britain's Prince Harry, left, salutes next to The Duke of Edinburgh during a visit to the Field of Remembrance at Westminster Abbey in London, Thursday, Nov. 5, 2015. The Duke of Edinburgh and Prince Harry each placed a Cross of Remembrance for Unknown Br

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  1. Ginger says:

    The British media are going to milk this for all its worth. They will have articles for months on how “Harry is closer to his family now” and how “The death of his grandfather made Harry see the error of his ways” It’s going to be awful. Be prepared.

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      Yep, that combined with “Harry’s out of Meghan grasp, family rift finally healed after he apologized” headlines will be bs for months to come.

    • Let the 🐀Rota Sh-t Show begin.

    • Pink says:

      No, papers like The Mail will. The rest of the media are just treating it normally. Believe it or not the vast majority of the UK are more worried about the effects of the pandemic than this.

      • ABritGuest says:

        Are you sure? Supposedly left wing republican papers like the Guardian & the Independent have been extolling Philip as a feminist who supported the queens career& ‘let’ her be a total girls boss whilst he took care of home& the kids. Also excusing him for so called ‘gaffes& faux pas’. Pretty extraordinary

        Meanwhile major corruption scandal involving David Cameron is brushed under the carpet.

      • Jaded says:

        @ABritGuest – what’s the Cameron corruption scandal about? The FIFA vote-swapping thing?

      • Oliphant says:

        Yeah the vast majority don’t care one way or the other, they’re not reading and commenting on gossip sites like we do.

      • SarahCS says:

        The BBC have had to put a special complaints form on the website after people started complaining about their coverage of Phillips death – as in they stopped everything else for wall to wall coverage and people are saying NO, we don’t want this. It could be because they postponed the Masterchef final which was die to air!

        Either way, I am here for this, the country has moved on and the BBC haven’t realised or have too many right-wingers shouting that the that royalty is more important than everything else.

    • Virginia says:

      @Ginger Since Harry and Meghan are planners l believed they already talked to Oprah and Gail to report THE TRUTH after the funeral, they won’t let the R Rats to twist the visit IMO.

  2. Roserose says:

    I feel so much for Harry. It’s got to be a horrible feeling, in top of a lot of horrible feeling. Fingers crossed he can fly back to CA ASAP and get on with the awesome life he’s building there.

    • LaraK says:

      He’s not going to hang around thats for sure. But the press is going to be analyzing every look and guesture at the funeral for months.
      I just know there will be stories about how he wanted to just stay with his family but evil Meghan made him go back. And how this was his last chance to leave his family and return to the royal fold. And how he left again and made the Queen cry. It’s going to be toxic as hell.

      • Cecilia says:

        Exactly. This is why i wanted philip to pull through a few more years but i guess it is what it is.

      • LaraW” says:

        I don’t think it will be that bad. Harry has his own spokespeople, and Gail King is in his corner. The UK media need to tread carefully around that— I think it hasn’t sunk in because they’re so used to a certain modus operandi and so used to a specific picture of Harry. Harry will reply forecfully to any narrative KP might try to spin.

        Also, if the past few months have shown me anything, it’s to never underestimate how badly the Cambridges will f-ck up their own PR.

    • Myra says:

      Yup. My sympathies are with him and I can understand the need to be around family, but I hope he doesn’t linger too long after the funeral. He should be careful what he says around them too, especially around his father and brother.

      • Southern Fried says:

        And the Yorks, Andrew and Fergie.

      • notasugarhere says:

        From the Oprah interview, it sounded like both Harry and Meghan are comfortable with the Yorks. She referred to Fergie as ‘Fergie’, and mentioned how she’d already known Eugenie before she met Harry. Makes me think even more that the majority of leaks, especially around wedding tiaras and crying lies, came from W&K not the Yorks.

      • MJM says:

        Ofc the leaks came from the Cambridges, not the Yorks. The Yorks aren’t threatened by and jealous of them.

    • Isabella says:

      Harry made a point of inviting Fergie to his wedding. William made a point of snubbing her. Also, Fergie and Andrew aren’t privy to all the details the Cambridges have been leaking–tiaras, Saudi jewels, tears over tights.

      “Sarah Ferguson was not invited to Prince William and Kate Middleton’s royal wedding in 2011, and the Duchess of York was saddened by the snub.

      While speaking with Oprah Winfrey, the mom of two said that it was difficult to not be invited to the royal event especially since Prince Andrew, Princess Beatrice, and Princess Eugenie were all there.

      “I wanted to be there with my girls… to be getting them dressed and to go as a family. Also, it was so hard, because the last bride up that aisle [at Westminster Abbey] was me,” she said.”

    • My3cents says:

      Dear Harry, please don’t let your passport out of your sight.

    • Elizabeth Phillips says:

      I hope he takes his own security, because I wouldn’t put anything past the men in grey.

  3. Linda says:

    The DM takes every opportunity to stick H and M’s names in an article and point out how they supposedly ruined the last year of Philip’s life. I’m already tired of it and it will be relentless in the coming weeks. I’m waiting for the article, next week, saying how homesick he is and that he may not return to the U.S. or that he’s fulfilling Philip’s final wish that the brothers reconcile, and other assorted b.s.

  4. Lauren says:

    Insane people were tearing into Meg yesterday when it was announced that she hadn’t been cleared by her doctors to fly into the UK. They were bringing up the trip to her NY baby shower. Completely ignoring Meghan was younger then, she has had a miscarriage since then and we are in the middle of an effing pandemic. That aside the journey from California to the UK is just too long for a heavily pregnant woman. I expect Harry will stay for a couple of days and then fly back to his family. Less time with his brother. Whom he still hasn’t spoken to lol.

    • Myra says:

      These people have hate in their hearts. No reason or logic could get through to them. They have made it clear that they don’t see Meghan as a human being. People like that are racist to their core.

      • bamaborn says:

        Exactly, so glad she’ll stay on this side of the ocean and let that putrid, sewer of an island stew on its own.🤮

    • Ginger says:

      I actually saw more support for Meghan not going. Only the haters brought up the baby shower. Most sane people know Meghan shouldn’t be flying right now and that all pregnancies are different. And the haters were being called out.

      • lulubrown says:

        Exactly Ginger; there were the majority of people defending Meghan. As a matter of fact, most people have been defending Meghan since they announced Philips dead. Only a small few are trying to make noise, but they keep getting told off, and most are bots.

      • Vera says:

        exactly, it’s only those insane types like Farage supporters that brought it up. 80% of the comments were in support of Meghan.

      • Yvette says:

        @Ginger … Yes, I noticed that as well. But then I noticed those comments disappearing because DM started removing any comments supporting Meghan and Harry.

    • Nilber says:

      I was roughly (guesstimate) as far along as Meghan is when I had to attend an extremely stressful family event. It sent me into early labor and I almost lost my son. I can’t imagine a stressful event with the world watching waiting on me to breath wrong to criticize me. People are insane.

    • Isabella says:

      Who would risk COVID during a pregnancy? It’s insane. Phillip is dead; there is nothing more Meghan can do for him. She and Harry can visit the Queen at a better time, and offer their sympathies, maybe even with their children.

      Also, Meghan has a little boy at home. He needs her.

      • Ania says:

        Isabella exactly. Archie is two and Meg probably doesn’t want to leave him on top of all medical reasons. She’s super pregnant and why would she risk anything to go where she is hated and nothig she does will be good enough? I guess H will go to the funeral and gtfo asap.

      • Susan says:

        Yes! And call me a terrible person, but how much time did MM really spend with Philip? Like, I 100 percent get why Harry is going but think about how much you know/knew your significant other/spouse’s grandfather—much less when you haven’t even seen him for a year and maybe spent one Cmas with that fam? I doubt Harry and Meghan when newlyweds were having weekly visits with the grandparents.

      • equality says:

        @Susan It sounded like H&M had spent more time talking with the Queen and Phil during the pandemic than during their time in the UK. But funerals are about the people left behind and supporting them as much as they are about the deceased. I’m sure that Meghan’s major reason for attending would have been to support Harry.

  5. ABritGuest says:

    Correct Ginger. The ‘rehab the royal family image’ drive is gonna be crazy. Andrew will be at the queens side at the funeral is my guess and ‘out of respect to the grieving widow’ further public appearances alongside her will be unchallenged.

    And various shows have had likes of John Major talking about how Harry & William should heal their rift. The drive for a united front using Harry (and therefore brushing under the carpet the smear campaign, what was said on Oprah etc) is going to be big.

    • Cecilia says:

      Something tells me that harry isn’t going to let it go that easy.

      • Guest says:

        I feel for this man. Hopefully he can go to the funeral, pay his respects and leave. The rest of his family can eat dirt. They pretty much destroyed his wife. They will never accept meghan, or his kids. The media will have enough filler for months because you know you are going to get the harrys made amends with William bs.

      • Cecilia says:

        @guest yes i know and I absolutely hate that. Prince philip dying was a gift to the tabloids.

      • Chica says:

        All I know Harry better not, bc he be dragged to. I’m sick of his family and I’m sick of his country. I am absolutely over they way Meghan and his have been thoroughly mistreated by all involved and if he sits there an let’s another round of this abuse happen to her and Archie with impunity and w/out pushback to the narrative, then it’s f-ck him too. I’m not Meghan, but being tied to him has been absolute an overwhelming onslaught of bullshit she doesn’t deserve. I don’t care about prince Charles being his father. That POS endangered her life and the life of his son, and that he pulled their security while allowing the press to leak their location is unforgivable. Meghan has cut her dad off for less, which was deserves. I’m sick!

      • Tessa says:

        William had no business forcing Harry out nor “disapproving” of his wife. Charles should have told him to back off. He did not. He just let it happen. Meghan would be slammed for being at the funeral “taking attention away” and she is slammed for not going there. SHe is the latter stages of pregnancy and left by herself and the bots call her the “troublemaker” when it really was William.

    • sunny says:

      It is so telling that the press is focused on the need to repair the “damage from the interview” supposedly caused by the Sussex side and not the damage cause by the treatment Meghan and Harry suffered by their terrible ghoulish family. The press continues to entirely miss the point(deliberately).

      Hope Harry can get in and out of the country in a short time and pay his respects.

      • Isabella says:

        Yes, even Meghan correcting the record on Kate’s tears is presented as if Meghan had invented a new story to make Kate look bad.

        I notice the DM never describes Meghan as Harry’s wife or uses her married name or title. They love the phrase “a pregnant Meghan Markle.”

      • Yvette says:

        @Sunny … Yes, I’m so tired of reading how everything is Harry’s fault with William and whatever the Cambridges have done, they don’t have to apologize for it and the Sussexes should just accept that fact. Harry tried to keep lines of communication open with both Kate and William before he and Meghan left England, but we saw how receptive the Cambridges were at the 2020 Commonwealth Day.

        They all seem to want Harry to fall to his knees and kiss William’s arse in a public square so they can then rub Harry’s nose in it for the rest of his life. And there is still an undercurrent in the British tabs about Harry coming to his senses and returning to ‘his’ family and Britain … alone.

  6. Harper says:

    Let’s see if the somber mood of the upcoming week knocks some sense into Prince Other Brother and he stops the leaking, or whether he has his cellphone on speaker all week as he updates the tabs, per his contract. Harry will be getting a lot of attention but I have a feeling Harry will not let himself be posed for anything that looks like a “the boys are back together” moment with Will. Hearing that Harry’s been in touch with his cousins, I predict that most of the family will be glad to see Harry. I wonder what kind of loyalty towards himself and not Harry Will is expecting to see… I think the rage monster is going to be let down when his family welcome Harry back and are glad to see him, while Kate and Will get nothing more than the obligatory nod and a hello.

    • Bloemheks says:

      This is what I think. Harry isn’t going to get a cold reception by the family, Will and Kate will. They don’t do a lot of events where they are all together. Wasn’t the last time the return from the train tour where the Queen clearly snubbed them? The family knows Will. They know this is his fault.

      • Betsy says:

        Precisely. They’ll all bend the knee when they have to, someday, but until then, everyone of them knows what William did.

      • PrincessK says:

        That is my feeling too. William and Kate will feel the most uncomfortable, they are the outsiders and the family l believe blame them for the falling out with the Sussexes.

  7. Digital Unicorn says:

    It’s very telling that the people he’s spoke to first are likely the ones that he’s not only still speaking to but trusts in some way. I know Harry said he has issues with his father but it does seem that they are at least trying to work them out. He has always been close to the York Princesses – much more so than Cain.

    It’s sad that the BM will be all over how Harry and the Cambridges act toward each other at the funeral rather than the funeral itself. Of course Meghan will be blamed for that but eh Cambridges will be all over that – making out that they are the main ones being a support to the entire family blah blah blah.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      Most of the “sources” on whom he spoke to etc. comes from publications that most likely don’t have an in with Harry’s camp. So either someone else leaked or they are just pulling things out of thin air – because the new narrative is “how Harry HAS to mend the family rift” with probably a side-order of “will he stay in England with his royal family?”. The media coverage is going to annoying as hell.

      The only things we do actually know is that Harry will attend the funeral and Meghan won’t per medical advice.

      • Edna says:

        What’s irritating is that Harry has to be the one to end the rift. Harry didn’t cause the rift in the first place so why should he do all the heavy lifting to fix things.

      • Tessa says:

        Harry should not apologize. His brother should. And Will needs to treat Meghan respectfully.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        That’s been the narrative for a while – it is not right but the media has decided that the BRF are the victims and that Meghan and Harry are in the wrong, even when it is the other way round. But that kind of reversing of the narrative is a common abusive tactic. This whole saga has really exposed how thoroughly the British tabloid media follows the abuser’s handbook (and I strongly suspect that the royal family itself follow that very same handbook).

      • Merricat says:

        Harry will not apologize for telling the truth. He has integrity.

      • Virginia says:

        @ArtHistorian why the pass of PP and the funeral is all about Harry? What did he do to deserve to be blame about it, why is he the centre of attention? is he the only grandson and family of PP? It’s like Harry is the future King and all the attention is on him not on William.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Well, you’ll have to ask the British press about why the center Harry in all this. I suspect it is because he sells – and there’s already a set narrative that has been built up for years. Family strife and scandals sell – and Harry s obviously on the outs with most of his family rn + the BRF has managed to keep a lid on most of their recent scandals (apart from Andrew).

        William isn’t centered in these articles because he doesn’t get clicks, he doesn’t move copies. He may be the heir to the heir and future future king but he doesn’t sell.

  8. Ann says:

    I too saw photos of a young Philip that looked SO much like Harry! Wasn’t expecting that. Definitely a resemblance between the two. Losing a family member is very sad, even when it’s expected. And on a superficial level, wow was Philip a handsome young man! I can see why Elizabeth was awestruck.

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      Philip was a major hottie back in the day and yes Harry is his double esp with the beard. TQ was reportedly obsessed with him from the age of 13 (i think) when she first met him – its been said that she was determined to marry him and he was the only man for her.

      TQ was a looker herself, they made a handsome couple.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      I know it’s a pic from The Fail, but check out the resemblance:

      Harry is the spitting image of PP when he was young. At a “first glance”, you *would* mistake them.

      • Duch says:

        The date of that article … it was about 3 days before the news of Harry and Meghan dating broke. Back when Harry had nothing but good press. Probably a coincidence but interesting.

      • booboocita says:

        Wow. The Fail actually said something nice about Harry. I imagine they’ll be back to negative coverage the instant he leaves the UK to return to Meghan and babies.

    • Yvette says:

      I’ve always thought that the older Harry gets the more he looks like Prince Charles and Prince Philip. All three have the same narrow-set eyes, the same nose, and facial expressions. William, who has been Diana’s mini-me since he was born, is a Spencer all the way, favors Diana’s brother, and doesn’t look a thing like anyone in the House of Windsor.

      But William’s son, Prince George, very much looks like the Windsors. He has eyes and a mouth and in certain photos looks eerily like his maternal great-great grandfather (Queen Elizabeth’s father, King George the VI) and his great-great Uncle, the Duke of Windsor (aka King Edward the VIII–the one who abdicated).

      • Tessa says:

        I think William looks a lot like Charles now and is a throwback to the Hanoverian kings. Heavy features and all that. I don’t see much of Diana in him anymore. I think Prince George looks a lot like Michael Middleton.

      • Korra says:

        Interesting because when I look at George, I see a hybrid of Michael Middleton and the Earl Spencer.

    • Carolind says:

      I also saw a photo where Harry looked very like Prince Philip.

      I have never seen Harry or William mentioned as Prince Philip’s favourite grandchild and they probably saw him the less of all the grandchildren. Andrew and Edward lived near Windsor and I think Anne’s children were more often at Balmoral.

      Interestingly, Peter Philips is the only grandchild I have seen mentioned who has seen the Queen since Philip’s death. He visited with his mother and stepfather and he is the one I have seen mentioned as being both the Queen and Duke’s favourite grandchild.

      Edward was Philip’s favourite son and Andrew the Queen’s and they both liked Anne.

      Frankly I am sick of both William and Harry and I hope they behave with dignity at the Dule’s funeral.

    • PrincessK says:

      This is the reason why the Queen loves Harry, she reminds him of her young husband.

  9. equality says:

    I wonder what sources leaked this. Is this Charles trying to get it out that Harry is speaking to him and B&E but not bothering with WIll? A sort of “look, I’m not the one who made comments” move? Or maybe B or E sticking it to Will?

    • Pink says:

      Or it’s just the obvious thing for rhe tabloids to make up? These kinds of stories were inevitable let’s be honest, there doesn’t have to be a source or a leak or even a grain of truth to them for them to be printed.

    • PrincessK says:

      Hmm….somebody leaked the info. I suspect that the York’s are involved because of the Frogmore/Nott Cott arrangements. Harry needs to stay somewhere. Charles needs to be aware of the security and travel arrangements for Harry.

  10. Phoenix says:

    I don’t see any family reunion happening until they don’t start treating Meghan as a human being and part of their family. I mean…we all know that the Windsors know it and the media knows it. And still the media covarage of Meghan is very toxic…They don’t want reunion. It won’t happend now. And they will again blame the Sussex.

    • AnneSurely says:

      Tbh, if I were Harry, I would not be going to this circus. His wife is pregnant, he has a son at home, we’re in a pandemic, and that’s not his family, that’s a toxic mess. He’s not going to be able to get the closure you need when a loved one dies with the bull he’s going to have to endure. He should have a private memorial at home and let everyone else perform grief porn for the Daily Mail.

  11. Sofia says:

    I mean. I never really thought that Harry wouldn’t go. I understand the reasons that people put up (Meghan is pregnant, quarantine restrictions, family issues etc etc) but Harry has made it clear that he loves his grandparents. People may feel they don’t deserve Harry’s affections and that’s their opinion but that’s how he feels. Plus Harry really only has to quarantine for 5 days if he brings a negative test and 10 days back in the US (I think) so it’s about 2 weeks of quarantining which Harry is prepared to do for the grandfather he loved and the grandmother he’s still close to.

    And Meghan is probably giving him her full support.

    • Becks1 says:

      Yeah we are on the same page. Harry was definitely going to go. If he had passed closer to Meghan’s due date, then maybe not but at this point – of course he was going to go.

    • Ginger says:

      I know there are some “supporters” that are mad about Harry going. They need to take a step back. Harry is going to go to the UK from time to time. He just will. When Meghan lived in the UK she still went to the US. The UK is his home country.

      • Tessa says:

        It would be OK if Harry does not have to walk with William and Kate. They are the problems mainly his brother.

      • Chica says:

        For me, I am not mad about him going and have always expected that he would. What I am angry about, and rightfully, have no reason to be as it has not happened yet, is of for him playing ball in anything as his family and the media continue to disrespect and ostracize his wife and son, as if they are after thoughts and not human. Him appearing on camera and looking chummy w/his brother or father will be upsetting to me. It will be even more upsetting if the media narrative of a reconciliation or some other form of degradation towards Meghan continues to be the public narrative with NO PUSHBACK on his end. She has endured way too much and give up way too much to be mistreated by his racist family. Lost her dad and her baby. And this fool, if it comes to him assuming that role, has lost what exactly if he’s still sitting amongst his privileged connections that ire his son and wife ill will?? No. I cannot stomach it and how Meghan does is beyond me, but she’d know more than I would. He must continue to earn his keep bc as far as I’m concerned, looking back over everything, he none of them deserve her. And he doesn’t if he doesn’t continue his Oprah interview energy and kill any narrative that exploits his visit at her expense. That’s how I feel about it. Oh, and his family members owe Meghan an apology. PERIOD.

    • Bloemheks says:

      There’s no way Harry, Meghan, and every adult in their household hasn’t been vaccinated. America doesn’t have a cueing culture. Where I see outrage tweets in the UK about people getting vaccinated before other people, I haven’t seen that in the US. I was vaccinated before I was “allowed” as were several other people I know because they didn’t have enough people signing up. They are more concerned with vaccine hesitancy and vaccines going bad than preventing people from getting them before it’s their phase.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Speak for yourself. I have US friends in three different states who’ve spent hours, days, weeks hitting up reservation servers to try to get appointments. Up at 2am trying for hours to get any appointment within a three hour radius. And these were people who, because of age or health issues, qualified for earlier appointment times.

        All because people who weren’t ‘allowed’ lied about health issues in order to get vaccinations. Multiple inquiries going on in one of those states about how twenty-somethings were able to walk in to certain medical outlets and get vaccinated weeks before 50+s were.

      • fluffy_bunny says:

        My state was running on an honor system before they opened vaccines to everyone. I waited until they allowed high risk people to be vaccinated because I’m high risk but no one asked for any kind of proof that I was in fact high risk or qualified for it.

      • JT says:

        I’m in SoCal and although there are “rules” nobody in the place where I was vaccinated cared. There were old people and young people are getting our vaccines, even if it was only supposed to be for healthcare workers. The doctor on staff said they were more concerned with getting as many people as possible to get the vaccine. So I also wouldn’t be surprised if he and Meghan were taken care of already.

      • notasugarhere says:

        fluffy_bunny, I think that’s the basis of some of the inquiries. People who were high-risk or ‘qualified’ weren’t able to get appointments. Investigations in to health care workers putting their friends and family on the reservation lists instead, etc.

      • Chica says:

        First of all, Vaccination isn’t a fix to getting and passing on Covid. Meghan is pregnant and it has not been cleared for pregnant women to get any vaccine so what are you taking about @BLOEMEKS ?? Also, unless Harry skipped a line by lying, he was not cleared to get the vaccine in CA and won’t be until April 15th. I live here and know how it’s rolled out for the state. He is not in any of the special categories that would clear him for administration of the vaccine. Of their a unit, Doria is they only that has likely received it and if they have staff who fall under the essentials workers or age categories, then them too.

        And anyone marking the assumption that Harry has been vaccinated also has to assume he’s an asshole for jumping the line and skipping the rules, which would not be on brand nor speak to a person who is supposed to have the kind of integrity he promotes as a public figure.

        Y’all can’t have it both ways with this argument. He has not been vaccinate unless he’s paid someone off.

      • Zaya says:

        @nota @ @chica, you guys shouldn’t assume every young person who got the vaccine lied about it to get the vaccine. I’m sure there are some who lied, I’m just saying I know plenty of people here in SoCal who got it without lying. You could volunteer shifts at a vaccination site, like my 27 year old sister and her bf did in San Diego. There are waitlist you could put yourself on, that’s how my cousin got his. And then there are some sites with open eligibility in SoCal, like the ones at Cal Sate Baskerfield or Cal State LA. I think Cal State Long Beach also opened up for a bit last week and their system was inundated. My friend went to a site an open eligibility site in LA and said they only ask demographics questions like occupation, race, etc. she was told she didn’t have to answer them, but she did truthfully saying interior designer and they were fine with it. It can still hard to get an appointment though, so it depends on your luck. My cousin’s bf, 24, in Santa Barbara simply walked into a Walgreens and got a shot. And I don’t want to be mean, but he’s too dumb to be able to lie about it convincingly. And LA just announced yesterday that they’re opening up appointments for anyone 16+. Long Beach and some parts of OC are also open for 16+ before the state’s official timeline. And yes, pregnant people can get the vaccine. My pregnant friend in Oxnard is in her 30s and got both doses of Pzifer. A pregnant cousin, 41, in NYC also got the vaccine. I think nyc is also open to 16+ now.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Nor should you assume that everyone in the US had or has easy-access to a vaccine, which is what your original post implied. Nor should you assume that plenty of younger people weren’t jumping the queue, which is why there are multiple investigations taking place in one of the states where my friends live. As fluffy_bunny stated, she wasn’t required to show proof of why she was considered high-risk, which was part of the problem.

      • MsIam says:

        My daughter whose 26 got her first shot already in CA. She said she called and scheduled an appointment for the end of the day at 7pm. If they have vaccines available you get one, if not you get turned away. She went with friends who had tried 2 or 3 times and were turned away but when she went they all got lucky. I think the older people could get a guaranteed slot. Every state is different since there is no national health system. We’ve had this debate before about who is getting the vaccine and there’s no perfect answer.

      • Zaya says:

        I’m not sure if you’re referring to me or not Nota, but I never said that there weren’t people who aren’t cheating the system. fluffy said her state was on the honor system, so it could be that her site left it to the person to self verify. Here in Southern California, some sites are asking and checking eligibility and some are open – you only need an email to sign up and you need an ID when you’re there, that’s it. And as I stated there are waitlists and volunteering opportunities. And then there are young people who qualify because they are high risk (or work in high risk jobs), just cause they’re young people assumed the jumped the queue. I fully acknowledge that there are people gaming the system and that vaccines spots are still hard to come by, I’m just saying don’t assume that every young person who got it got it gaming the system.

        Here’s a recent recent LAT article about how to get a vaccine shot without cheating.

      • Kkat says:

        I am in Southern California, there are many ways to get the vaccine if you weren’t in the special interest groups.
        For the last month if you went to any of the Kaiser hospitals around me you could get the vaccine. They have more than appointments.

        There are many many places that you can show up an hour before closing and get a vaccine.

        AND no one here knows his medical history.
        If he is on any thyroid medication, which many people are, he qualifies.

        So don’t pretend to know.

    • Vera says:

      I would assume he will be allowed to use one of the exemptions from the quarantine as even the 5 day one wouldnt be quick enough (the day of your travel is day 0 + 5 days + 1 day for test results = 7 days).
      He would either get the diplomatic mission or the state business exemption.

      • Gingerbee says:

        In NY, the vaccine is now available to ages 16 and up.

      • anotherlily says:

        The rules allow anyone to break quarantine to attend a funeral. Quarantine can also be reduced to 5 days with negative tests. Harry is here now and in Kensington Palace.

      • FeedMeChips says:

        @Chica Actually, pregnancy is a qualifier for the vaccines. I just had my second Pfizer dose on Friday, and qualified to get it in the first place because of my pregnancy. And yes, my doctor was very enthusiastic about me getting it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Why would he be at Kensington Palace and where has that been stated/proven?

      • JT says:

        I am not rich at all, I live in SoCal, and I have been fully vaccinated. And no, I didn’t need to pay anybody off. If I can get and I’m just an average Joe, I most certainly believe that H&M could get it as well.

      • anotherlily says:

        notasugarhere /; Reports are that he was met by security and driven to Kensington Palace. He has to quarantine and KP has unoccupied apartments and cottages e.g. Ivy Cottage recently vacated by Eugenie. He can leave quarantine to attend the funeral and fly back as soon as he has tested negative for 3 days.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Oh, boy, straight in the lions den if that’s true.

      • PrincessK says:

        There are reports that he is at Notttingham Cottage which ties in with reports that he is in contact with Eugenie as that is her London base now.

  12. Becks1 says:

    These people are so stupid. It’s unclear where Harry will stay? Um he will most likely stay at his house, Frogmore Cottage? The place he paid for? Especially considering that the funeral is at Windsor. He’s not going to crash at Anmer and have hearts to hearts with Will, sorry British media.

    Harry and Will aren’t going to reconcile as long as william continues to attack him in the media. And I don’t see William stopping anytime soon.

    I can see Harry and Philip getting along especially after Harry’s time in Afghanistan and work with veterans. That seems like it would give them a very strong common ground.

    • Cecilia says:

      Get ready for the stories about how the brothers “reconciled” without meghan there….

    • Sofia says:

      If Meghan was going I would have said “I doubt 2 families, especially royal ones, are going to live in the same 4 bedroom house” but since it’s Harry alone, I can see him staying in a bedroom while Jack and Eugenie live and use the rest of the house. Or they could move to the royal lodge for 5 days or so and move back in after Harry heads back.

      It may be breaking rules but it’s not like the royals have really cared about said rules.

      • Becks1 says:

        Isn’t it bigger than 4 bedrooms? But regardless, like you said, if this was Meghan AND Archie going*, then FC might be a little tight. But with just Harry I think it will be fine. He may end up at Windsor or Frogmore house if that’s where his dad is, but as a threshold matter it’s not some big mystery lol.

        *I am finding the insistence that Archie attend (on Twitter) to be so weird. Even if Meghan went and did bring A, he wouldn’t attend the funeral. He’s not even 2. Do people think Louis is going??

      • Sofia says:

        I remember reading there’s 4 bedrooms and a nursery but it could be totally made up. I also vaguely recall the official finance reports mentioning 4 bedrooms?

        Edit: Oh I don’t think ANY of the great grandkids are going to turn up. Except maybe the “older” ones like Peter’s kids and possibly George as his status of being the FFFK.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        I saw a post about Archie and thought the woman sounded bonkers. Harry isn’t bringing Archie to see the Queen. Jesus. Nice gesture. Still in the midst of a pandemic!

        Harry will probably stay at Frogmore Cottage or with the Queen. I don’t see him staying in a hotel.

    • Ainsley7 says:

      I thought Eugenie had moved back into Frogmore? The vaccine isn’t being given to babies, as far as I know. Even if Harry has been vaccinated, he can still get it and give it to others. He just won’t have as severe a case. So, I doubt he’d stay with her. I could see him staying in the castle. There are guest rooms there and no little ones to worry about.

      • Southern Fried says:

        Yes and he needs room for his own security team.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Eugenie and family can move in to her father’s massive Royal Lodge, minutes away. It isn’t like she’s been social distancing from her parents or sister. Let Harry and his security stay peacefully, away from family, at Frogmore Cottage.

      • Marjorie K. Margel says:

        As far as I was told when I was vaccinated, No once you get your shot, (or shots) you cannot pass it on to others after a two week period.

      • Couch potato says:

        Marjorie K. Vaccinated people can pass it on to others. There’s also insidents of vaccinated people getting infected and gotten so sick they were sent to the hospital.

      • PrincessK says:

        It makes sense for Harry to be at Nott Cottage.

    • Ginger says:

      Do Eugenie and Jack still live there? Harry would have to quarantine for 5 days before. They have a newborn so they may stay elsewhere.

      • Cessily says:

        They moved during the quarantine I believe I read, probably when she had a child of her own.

    • Cessily says:

      After the “open letter” from DW and PW I can’t imagine he is feeling warm and fuzzy towards his brother. I see him just tolerating his brother in the same room as a courtesy to his grandmother the queen and not to dishonor his grandfather’s funeral. The leaks will be flowing like Niagara Falls. It feels icky saying it, can’t imagine it feels much better living it.

  13. TheOriginalMia says:

    Funerals bring out the worst in people. I seriously doubt if any gestures of reconciliation will be attempted. During Phillip’s illness, William didn’t let up on his antagonisms. Harry is coming to pay his respects to his grandfather, to support his dad and grandmother, and nothing more. Anything else is tabloid fiction.

  14. MsDiMeanOur says:

    I cannot remember the name of it, but on Netflix there is a documentary where the Queen and late Prince Phillip were much younger

    I swear I was looking at Harry
    Its the beard and red hair that fools us
    Harry is 100% Windsor.

    RIP Phillip Mountbatten
    And we can just pray for peace and lack of toxicity for Harry. He deserves no negativity at this point in his life

    • Digital Unicorn says:

      There is red hair in both the Spencer and Windsor families – Diana’s brother has red hair. Also, wasn’t one of Philip’s sisters a red head?

      • MsDiMeanOur says:

        What I found funny is that none of Phillips children resemble him
        Especially in his youth
        He was physically beautiful

        And Harry does

        I am not sure about Phillips sisters as I have only seen B&W pics

      • Tessa says:

        Diana had reddish hair when young, she lightened her hair after the engagement.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        I believe Diana’s sister Sarah had the Spencer red hair as well.

    • notasugarhere says:

      If you can find the old picture of Philip with a beard, you can see the strong resemblance.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        I posted a link to it above.

        At a quick glance, you’d swear it *was* Harry.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        In that picture I swear they look like twins. Harry won the genetic lottery in that family avoiding those Windsor genes (so far). Also, William looks like Edward though weirdly Edward looks younger?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Thanks, OG, I missed your earlier posting. That was the photo comparison I meant.

  15. Jay says:

    So, I guess he and the other brother haven’t spoken? That’s the message I’m reading.

    Who knows what Phillip’s service will look like, but I’m curious about whether or not the royal family members would wear their military uniforms as they do for many major events? That might be kind of awkward given the kerfuffle over Harry’s military patronages. I don’t remember any previous funeral other than Diana’s.

    • Cecilia says:

      Since harry is a veteran i don’t see why he can’t wear his uniform. Non royal vets do so regularly for weddings and funerals.

      • Mynameispearl says:

        I think it depends on what rank Harry finished up in, I believe that above the rank of Major are allowed to wear uniform to ceremonies? He can wear the medals he got during service, but not the ceremonial stuff that the queen bestowed upon him and then removed when he left.

      • Gabby says:

        I think the BM reaction to Harry wearing a military uniform to the funeral would take the vitriol to dangerous level. A level no one even knew existed.

      • Merricat says:

        I think Harry being the only one who actually earned a uniform and the only one not wearing one is fairly emblematic of the phoniness the royal family has come to represent.

      • equality says:

        @Merricat Well put.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Harry can wear his dress Army uniform, the one from their wedding. He earned it, they cannot take it away from him.

      • notasugarhere says:

        From what I can tell of military regs, he can wear an ‘R’ to indicate retired military as part of it, with MOD permission.

    • Vera says:

      I think Omid? or someone said on twitter that he will wear a suit. which is so ironic as the only one serving properly will be NOT in uniform.

    • Jay says:

      @Merricat that’s exactly the scenario I was imagining, although as usual, he can’t win – if he wears a suit, the press will say “How dare he disrespect his grandfather by not wearing full military honours!” and if he wears his uniform, it will be “How dare he wear that when he’s not a working royal anymore, it’s an insult to the Queen!”

      • notasugarhere says:

        Members of the military are allowed to wear dress uniforms to certain occasions, like funerals, with prior approval from MOD.

    • PrincessK says:

      I am wondering about what they will wear.

  16. Snuffles says:

    Notice how they did NOT say William!

    Look, I believe the only family members he is seriously beefing with are Will and Kate. And I don’t think that ice will thaw for a LONG time. Especially since Will has been ramping up the crazy the last month. Even after the Queen telling him to shut it AND probably knowing it was near the end for Philip. He is off the rails unhinged.

    But, Harry has already stated he wants to patch things up with his father and I think he will. I mean, they’re not going to be tight because they never were but he wants him in his life. I also think he’s cool with the rest of the family too. I also think the rest of the family is as fed up with Will and Kate as the rest of us are.

    I have a feeling Charles and Camilla will visit Montecito after the baby is born. Maybe for Harry’s birthday in September?

    • Cecilia says:

      The relationship with harry and his brother won’t be mended but that won’t stop the UK media from reporting otherwise. Especially now that meghan isn’t there. Brace yourself for the 1000’s of stories of how it was better because meghan wasn’t there. However i hope that if the media seriously comes after meghan harry throws all decency into the Atlantic and starts leaking about baldy to american media.

      • Snuffles says:

        All it will take is one pointed message from Harry to a US outlet that things haven’t gotten better will William.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Harry and Charles have always had a closer relationship than Charles and William. It is telling that Harry wants to work on repairing that relationship, but not with his brother.

    • Ginger says:

      I agree. I have always heard that the rest of the RF really don’t like Will and Kate but they have to put up with them. They rarely are seen hanging out with other members of the family but Harry always has.

      • swirlmamad says:

        I said this in another post but thinking back to W&K’s wedding, and remembering the kerfuffle about the crazy hats and outfits worn by B&E, at the time I just thought it was their bad taste, but now I am convinced it was their way of trolling the two because they didn’t and don’t like them (Kate being an absolute B to both York sisters, and it doesn’t seem as though they were ever close to Will).

      • notasugarhere says:

        Beatrice’s outfit was nice, understated, nothing flashy. She re-wore it to Amedeo of Belgium/Luxe’s wedding (without the hat). The hat? She trusted the royal miliner to make something that went with the lacework on her coat. Big mistake.

      • equality says:

        @notasugarhere But surely she had the outfit in time to get a different hat if she wanted.

      • BeanieBean says:

        nota: I just looked at photos of Beatrice at that wedding again & you’re right, she wore a really lovely outfit; it’s just that hat that was so awful & got all the press.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Beatrice’s wild hat was from Philip Treacy who is a HUGE name in the fashion world, known for making weird and visually imposing hats. That is literally his thing. That hat wasn’t a fluke on the part of some royal milliner. It was a piece made by a milliner known for working with Alexander McQueen on his shows. Interestingly, Beatrice’s engagement ring is designed by Shaun Leane, who also worked with Alexander McQueen while he lived. So she seems to have an interest in the artists who originally collaborated with McQueen while he lived.

        Maybe the hat was her trolling Kate or maybe it was an attempt on Bea’s part to present herself as a fashionista and it just backfired horribly on her because this really wasn’t the event for avant-garde millinery.

      • PrincessK says:

        Yes, William is not popular within the extended family.

      • PrincessK says:

        Beatrice was trolling Kate with that hat, it took attention away from Kate ans the hat was later sold for charity.

    • Tessa says:

      I don’t think Charles will go to California. He seems to want to appease William now.

    • Cessily says:

      Seems to be so, I read the girls and Kate didn’t get along and Kate was not kind to them when they dated. It was a theory on why they wore those hats to the wedding, kind of a “fu” moment to their young adulthood bully. Again just something I read and went…hmmmm.

  17. sandy says:

    god these papers are awful. could you imagine a world where after the interview the focus was instead, when will the royal family apologize to meghan? but of course not because that would be admitting they were at fault.

  18. Sarah says:

    I hope the only communication Harry has with William is a text that says “See U Next Tuesday” and then nary a glance.

    • Edna says:

      Tensions usually run high after the death of a loved one. I honestly think if Baltimort steps wrong to Harry, the gloves will come off and Harry might punch the fool.

      • Harper says:

        I had the same thought that if Will crosses another line in person he and Harry could come to blows

      • Cessily says:

        Hmmm look for PW in shades during a cloudy day 🕶💥🤛🏻..( just a little humor to lighten the day)

    • notasugarhere says:

      Same. I hope Harry stays at Frogmore Cottage, gets private time with the Queen without the press catching him. Attends the funeral but no family wake shenanigans, and flies home within a 24/48 hour period.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        It’s really the only scenario that makes sense. He has no reason to go to London/KP. His home is in Windsor. Eugenie & Jack can decamp to Royal Lodge for a few days to allow Harry to stay in his home with his security. I do wonder if he’ll bring his private security or if the Protection Service will take over once he lands.

  19. Amy Bee says:

    “Operation heal the rift” has been activated by the press and I suspect with the approval of BP. The problem with this is Harry’s not going to reconcile until the family makes amends for what they did to Meghan and that would probably include a public statement from the Palace and BP telling the press to back off Meghan. These things are not going to happen. So Harry will go to the funeral and leave soon after that.

    • Cecilia says:

      What needs to happen is:
      – a public apology to meghan apologizing for the lack of action taken
      – a public condemnation of the UK press
      – stopping all leaks.

      But it isn’t going to happen and thats why i hope harry has them on a tight rope. So the media can’t just spin this every way they want.

    • swirlmamad says:

      I absolutely expect Harry to put the kibosh on any drivel about the brothers being hunky dory if the RRs keep it up and push their narrative too far. Expect “sources” to share that H is there simply to honor his grandfather, and the “space” between the brothers is alive and well.

  20. Oh says:

    Their dream came true, Harry come back alone without his wife and child. Baldy and top ceo are happy now and they will try to use Harry and show how nice they are towards him. You know they want their white prince.

    • Lizzie says:

      Headlines will focus on Harry which has always been a trigger for the other brother and his keen wife.

      • Cessily says:

        Big picture here is as of now and in the future PH is working to have his family free of the whole twisted monarchy system that left him beholden to his grandmother, father and eventually in the future his brother for his income. If they reconcile or not, a financially independent PH is not the same brother PW grew up with and knew, I don’t think that he has understood this at all.

    • Ginger says:

      Kate will be happy to do her usual manic grinning at Harry while twirling her hair.

  21. MerryGirl says:

    There will be no reconciliation between Harry and TOB. He will fly in to pay his respects to his grandfather and fly back home to his expectant wife and son. My only regret is the UK press will milk stories for months and years to come about this trip until the next funeral.

  22. Pink says:

    I mean, this was always going to happen, Harry was close with Philip, any rational human wants to be at their grandparent’s funeral if they had a good relationship, regardless of whether they’re royal. I don’t think this is the big deal people here are making it out to be, in all the media coverage I’ve seen here in the UK, no one has been making a big deal about Harry attending, the bigger issue seems to be the potential cancellation of sporting events next weekend! Sure some commenters on the Daily Mail will probably get their knickers in a twist but they’re not representative of the British public as a whole. And I say this as someone who doesn’t care for the Royals. People need to stop making mountains out of molehills, at the end of the day they’re a family experiencing the death of a loved one, of course they’ll all want to attend even if things are strained between them.

    • GINEVRA says:

      Prince Harry and Meghan spoke lovingly of Prince Philip and the Queen always.

    • Bloemheks says:

      Whenever a Royal event happens that spurs people who don’t normally tweet about Royal coming and goings I see a lot less condemnation of Harry. A lot of people seemed annoyed they were making it about Harry and thought it was stupid people were speculating whether he would go or not or worse, declaring he isn’t wanted and shouldn’t be allowed to attend.

    • ABritGuest says:

      @Pink i think the U.K. media is absolutely making a big deal of Harry’s attendance at the funeral. Nigel Farage saying he’s not welcome to attend was all over the tabloids, his arrival in London this evening is being reported as breaking news& talk of healing rift with William was discussed on all the news shows during their paper reviews and the Andrew Marr show with John Major piping up. Totally OTT for family rift to be discussed by ex prime ministers.

      Incidentally the opposition leader keir starmer was also asked about the family rift after Oprah & if he thought tabloid coverage of Meghan has been racist. He said no.

      @Jaded the David Cameron scandal is his directly lobbying the chancellor and health minister for this finance co to have access to covid related financing. Annoyingly 8 days of mourning for Philip means Boris Johnson & health minister won’t have to face questions immediately on this

  23. Merricat says:

    I sincerely doubt that Harry will stay a second longer than necessary. Other brother and his keen-to-be-queen sidekick are still in denial.

    • notasugarhere says:

      That’s my hope, Merricat. He flies in secretly and goes through The Windsor Suites so he isn’t photographed. Stays at Frogmore Cottage where press can’t catch him. Attends funeral, no other family events, wears a mask the whole time so most of his expressions are hidden. Leaves within 24/48 hours.

  24. Guestwho says:

    I wish, if they are going to continue to mention the price of their house in every article about the Sussexes, they would stick with one price. It goes up and down a lot.

    What would be amusing (to me, but I’m vengeful) is the press explaining away the black eye PWT ends up with after confronting his brother. How much angrier must Harry be after the week of Piers and Wootton’s shenanigans? I wonder if billy imagined he’d be face to face with Major Wales quite so soon after launching his latest – and grotesque – attacks in the press.

    I hope Harry can just swoop in for the funeral, hang out with his cousins a bit, and then get the hell out of Dodge. I’m always so uncomfortable when he’s in the UK and Meghan isn’t…what kind of hapless, moronic scheme are the Cambridges cooking up right now?

    • Tessa says:

      It is revolting if Kate and William tell Harry to sit with them. And the social media bots will say Harry WILL come to his senses and some of the worst ones want Harry to bring the children back to the UK.

      • JT says:

        Will couldn’t even face Harry for the sandringham summit. When H&M returned for their last bit of royal duties, W&K were on that awful Ireland tour, which was kind of last minute if you ask me. @Guestwho you’re probably not off the mark speculating that Will wasn’t expecting to see Harry so soon. I’m sure Harry was made aware of that gross open letter. I’d be pissed. I think Will-di Amin will keep some distance and I don’t expect Kate to be around him either.

    • Cessily says:

      It was marketed a long time I think.. they got a hella deal if the last owner paid 25 mil and they got it under 15 mil. Good for them.

  25. Amando says:

    This sounds like a whole pile of awkward. It’s wise that Meghan is staying far away from that drama. Harry has class so he will pay his respects to his grandparents and then GTFO.

  26. February-Pisces says:

    I don’t know, but I do have an uneasy feeling about harry coming back here. I remember reading tea on LSA from someone who has a well placed source.

    It was something along the lines of if the palace had an opportunity to get harry back here alone, they would find a way to keep him here, via drugging his food, and saying he was ill, like he was having a ‘mental breakdown’. Then keeping him in the uk for a period of time until he bends to their way. Then they could claim he ‘finally found his way back home and finally sees Meghan for what she is’. However once they realised his security team is top notch and can not be bought off, that idea was quickly scrapped.

    Anyway I have no idea how legit that was, but I wouldn’t put it past them. I just hope harry leaves the second the funeral is over, doesn’t eat or drink anything they give him, and his security is with him always.

    • Snuffles says:

      No one on earth would believe it. Especially after the Oprah interview. Especially with a new baby due. And it would cause an international incident.

      • Chica says:

        What kind of international incident, though? He’s a British Prince, being “allegedly” held hostage in his country of birth…who’s going to intervene exactly and on what account bc they’re damn sure not going to put him in front of any cameras to profess that he’s being held against his will, so it will be the Palace narrative VS Meghan’s ? Someone Britain has labeled a liar. I mean, what would the Biden admin be in a position to do honestly?

        Granted, I don’t believe any of this will be happening, but it being an “international incident” confused me.

      • Chica says:

        What kind of international incident, though? He’s a British Prince, being “allegedly” held hostage in his country of birth…who’s going to intervene exactly and on what account bc they’re damn sure not going to put him in front of any cameras to profess that he’s being held against his will, so it will be the Palace narrative VS Meghan’s ? Someone Britain has labeled a liar. I mean, what would the Biden admin be in a position to do honestly?

        Granted, I don’t believe any of this will be happening, but it being an “international incident” confused me.

    • JaneDoe says:

      Holy shit!!!!!!!! That sounds like that crazy shit with those poor Dubai princesses. They’ve been hostages in their own family for YEARS…..

      • Golly Gee says:

        I was reminded of that too. It’s been publicized and condemned and no one can do a damn thing about it.

    • Sid says:

      February, I know the poster you are talking about. I and many others don’t believe anything she writes for a number of reasons. If you have time, go back through her posting history and see.

    • Merricat says:

      No one is going to drug Harry and hold him hostage.

    • February-Pisces says:

      Like I said I have no idea how accurate it was, I just remember reading it a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn’t actually be surprised if they tried something though to keep him here, but they would never be able to explain why. No one would believe he would walk out on archie and with a new baby on the way, even if they tried to sell the whole ‘he’s finally sees Meghan for who she is’ line, or ‘he’s missed Willie and kate’.

      But I do feel uneasy with him being there without Meghan, this is their only chance to get him on his own. I just hope he’s straight on the plane after the funeral.

      • Harper says:

        I read the same thing on LSA, and it has stayed with me. It seemed extreme, but I think the source actually works in the royal household and hears things. Whether or not the drugging idea could come to fruition, the point is that before Oprah, I think there were people who did think they could still find ways to manipulate Harry. After Oprah, the world is watching and there is no way. However, the LSA source is pretty constant on the fact that Will is a rage monster behind the scenes and a partier with some concerning habits.

    • Sofia says:

      Sorry but that’s taking it too far and into conspiracy/tinhat land. I don’t trust the BRF but they’re not going to drug the man.

      I wouldn’t be surprised if Harry leaves the evening of the day of the funeral and arrives back in the US the next day to start quarantine.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        I fully expect that to be what happens. No one wants to leave a very pregnant spouse alone for any length of time. Then we can look forward to hearing endless stories on the Daily Fail about how easy it is to quarantine in a $57 million dollar house with 82 bathrooms (exaggerated purposely).

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      They can’t pull off a successful PR campaign, much less a poisoning/hostage situation. But no one could fault Harry for feeling ill if he was offered Kate’s unseasoned enchiladas….

    • swirlmamad says:

      I do not think that that could happen in any scenario. Meghan would sound the alarm and Oprah and Gayle would probably let loose everything they have in their arsenal, lol. In all seriousness, they could never in a million years pull something like that off, it just goes under the radar and everyone lets it happen. Plus as others said, they can’t even coordinate their own PR responses to this crap, you really think they could pull off a diabolical scheme to kidnap Harry and squirrel him away in the UK?

      • LaraW” says:

        So I’ve been thinking more about this— please note that I do not believe that something nefarious is going to happen to Harry— what we are discussing here is kidnapping, which is a crime. A crime that, if the UK media knew about and actively assisted in covering up, they would be party to. Do they really want to cross that line? There is a material difference between phone tapping and being complacent in, witness to, or party of kidnapping a human being.

        Quite frankly, I think if this happened, it would legitimately bring down the monarchy. How can the UK claim to be a democracy if their head of state is willing to kidnap and hold a blood family member against their will? Never mind the Royal “Brand.” If the Tory government, BoJo, etc, don’t address it, how can the UK claim to be anything other than a country inching closer and closer to an authoritarian state?

        Kidnapping is a big deal, especially for a G8 country which purports to being fully committed to the protection of human rights.

        It’s not going to happen. The consequences would go far beyond just the RF and the Sussexes. This is what I meant below when I said it could precipitate a diplomatic crisis.

    • February-Pisces says:

      The word ‘kidnapping’ wasn’t used. My impression from the original post was that they wanted to try and find a way to get him to stay her for longer so they could get him to ‘see sense’ without Meghan being with him.

      Like I said, it just what a font posted on LSA, I have no idea if it’s actually true.

      • LaraW” says:


        I get what you’re saying but from a legal standpoint, what you described in some jurisdictions qualifies as kidnapping. The definition of kidnapping does change depending country (and in the US, by state), but it doesn’t necessarily require a component of forcibly taking and physically moving the individual from one location to another. An example definition:

        “the taking of a person from one place to another against their will, or the confinement of a person to a controlled space”

        Drugging Harry to keep him against his will in the UK qualifies as kidnapping under this definition.

        I freely admit that I don’t know what the UK’s definition is, but what the individual posted on that site, if true, would mean that the RF is willing to commit a crime to detain a family member by force, against their will, for a ransom— in this case the ransom would be the Harry’s capitulation to the RF’s demands.

    • Emily_C says:

      England isn’t Dubai, Harry’s male (which still gives a large amount of protection), and it’s the 22nd century. This is not going to happen. I can imagine an attempt at emotional manipulation from Charles, but that wouldn’t work either, and actually I don’t think Charles is that dumb. It’ll likely be a miserable experience for Harry, but he’ll return to California just fine.

      • Nan says:

        Wait, what? It’s still the 21st century, lol! We have a ways to go yet. It’ll be the 22nd when the first 20 (of 2021) turns to 21.

  27. mariahlee says:

    I do not envy Harry. Losing a beloved grandfather aside, the whole experience is likely to be so unpleasant. There are a million ways they could humiliate and “other” him if they wanted to. I hope they’re graceful and he has a few allies left.

    • L4frimaire says:

      I hope everyone will get through the funeral without much drama. There will be lots of tears and mourning and the focus will shift back to the elderly Queen. I actually feel sorry for her, with the family disarray. However, a lot of this turmoil was self inflicted and manipulated mostly from KP. The leaks and back biting will start after the funeral. Harry will have to be around his family for pre and post funeral gatherings. If they want to freeze him out, so be it. I really hope he gets through this with love and grace. I think this whole circus, especially even questioning and criticizing Meghan not attending with her pregnancy, will just affirm to him why he had to leave in the first place.

  28. Elizabeth says:

    I’m just going to say it.

    He shouldn’t be flying internationally back and forth in the middle of a pandemic.

    He shouldn’t be getting a diplomatic pass to skip quarantine.

    He shouldn’t be gathering with other households for a funeral.

    None of us should. He’s not a saint and I’m not going to pretend he is. The fact everyone is so excited about Philip is beyond me. He was a crass, racist man. It’s sad we have this ingrained narrative of glorifying privileged white men and scrounging for excuses for their obvious flaws.

    • Snuffles says:

      From what I have read everything is within the rules. People can shorten a quarantine for a funeral and up to 30 people can attend in the UK.

      As for what we think of Philip. It’s not about what we think, it’s about what Harry thinks. And despite it all, he loved his grandfather.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        Exactly, @Snuffles. I read the recent rules on travel to the UK and Harry is well within the rules. I’m sure Phillip’s death wasn’t as much of a surprise to the family as it was to the world. Harry has probably been planning his return since he heard Phillip had taken a turn for the worst.

    • Sofia says:

      He’s not getting a diplomatic pass to skip quarantine. You can take part in the test to release scheme where you’re released from quarantine after 5 days if you’ve got a negative test and you’re coming from a country not on the red list – which the US isn’t on. And you can leave quarantine on compassionate grounds such as a funeral. This is all on the government website.

      And as @Snuffles said above, you can feel however you want about Philip (and that’s fine) but he is Harry’s grandfather – a grandfather he was close to. Hence why he’s going.

    • Tessa says:

      He should not be traveling because his wife is pregnant and in the last trimester and he has a small child. I also think it sends a message to the media to slam Meghan and it is “all her fault.” Also COVID is not over yet. I cringed at some of the comments saying the royals would not “allow” Meghan there. If I see Harry walking around with Kate and Will again I would feel nausea.

      • Ann says:

        If my husband had to go to a loved one’s funeral when I was pregnant and had a small child I certainly would not want to stop him. Meghan is in her third trimester but not imminently due, and it’s not like she is alone. She has a doctor there and the hospital nearby, probably help with Archie, her mother if need be, etc. And Harry is vaccinated, as I imagine is she. Let the media say what they will, he shouldn’t let them stop him from attending his grandfather’s funeral.

      • Oh says:

        Just wait and see how he will allow himself to be used as a PR prop by them.

      • Jaded says:

        You’re not going to see Harry anywhere near the leakers. That train left the station a LONG time ago. Harry is also abiding by the 30 person maximum at a PRIVATE funeral where media is barred. He will no doubt be masked. This is an important event, let him honour his granddad in a sanctioned manner.

      • Jaded says:

        @OH…how will he “allow” himself to be used as a PR prop? And by whom? The most the tabloids will get of him is a shot of him inside a car — it’s not like he’s going to be out and about, he will be with a small group of family members and I doubt he’ll have anything to say to Wm and Keen. If anything the Keens will use it to further their claims that they would LOVE to reconnect with Harry but alas, he’s too stubborn and too far under Meghan’s thumb to agree.

      • Cecilia says:

        @jaded. They will be walking behind his casket. That is going to be very public even tho there might not be any people there. (Due to covid restrictions)

      • equality says:

        They can’t win in the press either way so he needs to do what makes him feel the best about the situation. If he didn’t go Meghan would be “holding him hostage and not allowing him to attend”.

      • Carmen-JamRock says:

        One of the (many) reasons tht H&M left royal life was so tht they could live a more aithentic life, free from concerns abt wht the BM might say and free from hvng to be 50% LESS than who they and their values are.

        I think tht by now, every sane, decent, honest and just individual can see tht they were right to leave and, in fact, are living their best life.

  29. one of the Marys says:

    I find it interesting that the rift seems to hinge on the interview, Not the many months and years that came before, the smearing, the leaks, the lies, them leaving the country for gods sake. This is classic abusive behaviour, the Sussexes caused the rift by identifying the problems and speaking their truth therefore they are responsible for healing the rift. It’s astounding to me.
    Anyway I’m glad for Harry he’s able to return for Philip’s funeral and glad Meghan has clear reasons not to. Poor guy, the next few days are going to be stressful. The several days around my parents’ funerals felt like a marathon, not a moment of peace

    • Tessa says:

      I hope Meghan has plenty of company, even if she does not go this probably is stressful for her and she knows that the media is slamming her now.

    • L4frimaire says:

      @oneof Marys, exactly this! No one seemed to bothered about the rift when the press were writing abusive and untrue articles about Meghan in the press, or KP was leaking and distorting everything they did, or the unfair and racist treatment regarding Archie, and his birth. All of a sudden there is a rift because the Sussexes revealed what they went through. I think Meghan at least will be surrounded by support and not alone during this.

  30. notasugarhere says:

    Anne was most like him, but his closest child was Edward. Baby of the family, like Philip. Andrew was the Queen’s fav, Edward was Philip’s. He didn’t have to raise this one to be a king, Edward was the son he could spend plenty of time with after he’d come to terms with his consort role. No other child could have gotten away with leaving the royal marines in order to serve tea to Andrew L Webber.

    • Cecilia says:

      Uhm princess anne was philips favorite child. Lol. And thats well known. I don’t know where you get edward from but it seems unlikely since he’s even softer than charles. And philip hated that in charles. He wanted a son that was a bit more like him. Well he got that, in a daughter

      • notasugarhere says:

        Philip raised Charles the way he did because he thought he needed to ‘toughen up’ the heir. He didn’t feel that way towards any other child, didn’t feel the need to toughen them up.

        Anne wasn’t his fav, that’s been known for years. She was the only girl, which gave her a certain position in the family, but she wasn’t his fav. They were too much alike to like each other much of the time (ex. snappish and rude when stressed). Anne’s interests were horses and dogs, much like the Queen. She didn’t have intellectual curiosity that Philip admired. Edward is no brain surgeon, but at least he’s curious about the world which Philip admired.

        Edward was the child of Philip’s calmer time, once he had set the heir off ‘on the correct path’ and figured out how to do his role as consort. Queen was off being obsessed with Andrew, but Edward was Philip’s to play with, coddle, and enjoy.

      • Tessa says:

        In many ways, I think Anne is smarter than Edward. She also has a great work ethic that she got from both her parents.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She might be everyday life smarter, but not cultured/learned smarter. While Edward is no great shakes intellectually, he has an interest in culture that is shared with Philip.

    • Eve says:

      Having met Anne i can assure you she definitely is intellectual curious.

  31. Louise177 says:

    The media is so stupid. As horrible as some family members and most staff has been to them, especially to Meghan, a couple of days isn’t going to fix anything. Especially since nobody has contacted Meghan. How can they make up if they don’t make amends with Meghan?

  32. chimes@midnight says:

    I know Phillip was not a saint and he said and did some very bad things, but it is a shame that a man lived 99 years and was the consort of a Queen, yet most of the press coverage is about his grandson. Man isn’t even the focus of his own death.

    • Tessa says:

      I think it is just horrible that Harry and Meghan trashing is going on in social media, never mind that Prince Philip died at age 99.

    • Waitwhat? says:

      Only in the Fail and its ilk – his role and legacy are the focus everywhere else.

    • Original Penguin says:

      Harry gets clicks. That’s why he’s front and centre. It’s the same on this site. How many Meghan and Harry articles do we have a day? Clicks mean money.

  33. Tessa says:

    Penny Junor should just keep quiet after she trashed Diana.

  34. Gabby says:

    I have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach over Harry returning to the UK at all. The Unhinged Trifecta of Piers Morgan, Dan Wootton and Prince Livid are enraged and desperate. I worry they might try something. Prince Livid will be further outraged that he was not amongst the family members Harry called, when even the York sisters made the cut. Please Harry, keep your distance and make sure a 3rd party is present at all times when near your brother.

    I hope some quality time with his dad and Camilla ensue.

    • Fumi says:

      What are they going to do? Kidnap him? Refuse to let him come back to America to be with his pregnant wife and child? That makes no sense. Harry is a grown man and can choose to come and go as he pleases COVID protocols notwithstanding.

      • Jaded says:

        Boy there are a lot of tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorists commenting today. Sure, Commander Wilileaks of No Army in Particular will have him thrown in the Tower.

      • LaraW” says:

        At this point, EVERYONE IN THE WORLD knows how much Harry loves Meghan and Archie and the lengths he will go to protect his family. A lot of people have also seen the Crown and how they held Diana hostage. If he did something as uncharacteristic as stay in the UK far past a reasonable amount of time and the media/BP made some of statement that he was there to stay and was leaving Meghan, I think social media would blow up. More than that, I think it would potentially lead to a diplomatic crisis, which the UK cannot afford.

        The interview with Oprah was a big deal— not just because of the gossip, but because the systemic racism was revealed and they can’t cover it up again. Trying to keep a white man from his pregnant black wife while also blaming said wife for the death of Philip? Using the thin excuse that Harry has “come to his senses” and knows who his “real family” is now? It would be too f-cking obvious that some kind of foul play was involved.

        Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, BRF.

    • Tessa says:

      I am not sure Harry is that fond of Camilla. He is friendly to her but he and his father need the real alone time to sort things out. I hope William does not start baiting Harry and tries to get him alone to trash him and his wife.

    • Southern Fried says:

      Harry and Meghan’s location has been leaked before by the royals and it’s a very real danger.

  35. Alexandria says:

    If it’s me I would go without announcing anything especially since I’m leaving my wife and kid behind. But I’m thinking if this is a security strategy. All eyes are on him and so nobody tries anything funny? I hate that family.

    • Cessily says:

      Watched One of the English stations they had reporters and cameras at the street gate and totally missed him leaving. I thought that was fitting.

  36. Chelsea says:

    I feel like a lot of Sussex supporters are being overdramatic about all of this. Harry is a big boy who literally fought in a warzone TWICE. He can handle himself. He knows who his family is and he knows how the British Media is. They will of course pull a lot of BS over the next few weeks and try to stretch it into months but all that matters is that Harry did the right thing as a man, husband, and father and didnt push Meghan into coming back to this mess and and he will be back home to the great life he built for himself in CA soon enough. It might be 1 week or 2(The Queen’s birthday is on the 21st so he might stay for that but i can’t see him staying longer than that), but eventually it will be over and he will be free again. The good thing is that post interview many international outlets, especially in the US, won’t play along with the games the UK press is trying to play right now but either way he’ll deal.

    We as their supporters need to show more faith in Harry who literally left everything he knew to protect his little family. He deserves more respect than this.

    • JT says:

      Yeah. Some of it is getting a bit ridiculous. If anyone has forgotten, but Harry also remained in the U.K. following the announcement that he was stepping back from royal duties, while Meg flew back to Canada. He handled all of the arrangements and negotiations himself, and flew back to be with Meghan and Archie. He went to the sandringham summit and didn’t budge an inch according to reports and walked away from nearly everything. This business with the funeral is nothing new and he didn’t allow himself to be convinced to stay or change his mind about leaving the last time. Nor did he divorce her and abandon Archie. He will be fine and he isn’t betraying Meghan by going to this event.

      • LaraW” says:

        From one perspective, I do think the conspiracy theories are getting out of hand.

        From another perspective, we’ve discussed here how the RF seems to operate internally a lot like a cult, and we already know that they are abusive f-cks who thought nothing of denying medical help to a woman who was suicidal— and from the interview, it sounds like it wasn’t just ideation, but that Meghan had a plan and she had intent.

        The rules are different for Harry; he knows and has grown up with these people and he knows how they operate; he’s a competent, grown man who has a lot of allies; he has security; he’s been in a war zone. These are all fair points.

        It’s also fair to note that in recent months, William sounds increasingly psychotic, the UK media are increasingly unhinged, and whatever threat level Harry faced pre-interview (eg the Sandringham Summit), it’s likely that threat level has gone up.

        On the balance, I think that Harry’s security team knows that and Harry knows that better than anyone here. It’s a fraught situation all around— I think we don’t need to be overcome with paranoia about kidnappings, but I think it’s realistic to say the threat level to Harry’s person has increased since he last visited. But he’s not without support, he’s not without resources, he’s thought of his decision carefully and discussed it with Meghan who obviously supports him.

      • Chica says:

        Personally, I’ve been side eyeing Harry and that bc of how he’s resigned himself to making up w/two ppl in particular that did him dirty. His father and brother. I don’t know, endangering my wife and son by pulling my security while we’re in the midst of getting death threats, and cutting me off financially, while allowing the press to leak my location is unforgivable. There would be no relationship to repair. Meghan’s father has done less to endanger their lives than Harry’s father and yet…there is Charles who he’s seeking to repair a relationship with. It’s irrational, and of course wtf am to insert my opinions on this, all the same, that shit doesn’t sit right with me.

    • swirlmamad says:

      I agree with you. I think people need to take a breath, and just wait and see what happens. Some are falling into this trap that Harry is somehow “simple” and needs guidance on what to do. As said, he fought in warzones, and has a military background and the ultimate experience of taking care of himself. He and Meghan have discussed this scenario and what they will do extensively, of that we can be sure. He is not going to allow himself to be used as a pawn by the diabolical W+K, he’s not going to be drugged and held against his will in a Windsor dungeon somewhere, and he’s going to arrive, honor his grandfather as is his right to do, perhaps catch up with Eugenie and a couple of other cousins, his grandmother and potentially his father and then he’s going home to his wife and 1.5 children. That’s it. W+K may be hoping for a way to shift the narrative on themselves and using this visit to their advantage but I’m betting Harry is 2 steps ahead of them.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      👍🏻👏🏻.👍🏻👏🏻.👍🏻👏🏻. Well said.

    • Midnight@theOasis says:

      Thank you. It’s amazing how silly people are being about this. Harry loved his grandfather and regardless of what anyone says he will be there to pay his respects and honor Phillip. Too many of these “supporters” are acting as if Harry is some simpleton. Harry is a grown man who will do what’s best for himself, Meghan and the kids. Harry knows his family and the BM and he knows how to deal with them. Supporters need to have faith and trust in Harry.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      ITA. Harry will be fine. He will not be alone.

      William will not be able to man-in-the-iron-mask Harry while there.

      • Cessily says:

        Lol love the iron mask reference.. see Royal siblings are known to not get along. No story here…

  37. Amelie says:

    Harry HAS been in the UK without Meghan before. After he and Meghan briefly came back from Canada together, they dropped the announcement they were peacing out then Meghan flew back to Canada to be with Archie. They never brought Archie back with them and left him with a trusted caregiver in Canada. Harry dealt with the “Sandringham Summit” alone and the fallout of the announcement before he flew back to Canada to be with Meghan. And they let him leave. So all these conspiracies how Harry is going to be poisoned or kidnapped are really annoying and I wish people would stop.

  38. Carabella says:

    Did anyone else notice that the lead BBC story about Philip’s death mentioned Harry but not William?

    • Midnight@theOasis says:

      Interesting. Guess the omission may cause someone to be even more incandescent.

    • Merricat says:

      Wow, that really is something, for the ffk’s reaction to not even make the article. Maybe the bbc figures we already know how Will Duce feels about everything, and if we don’t, Piers Morgan will tell us.

      • JT says:

        Nobody seems to even care what W&K feel about Philip’s passing or the funeral arrangements. Harry has been the main focus and so many people are pointing out his resemblance to his grandfather, as well as Philip’s good qualities being present in Harry. William has been a footnote and Kate hasn’t even been mentioned. If W&K didn’t turn up for some reason, I don’t even think people would care. If Harry hadn’t shown up, all hell would break loose.

        All of the Keens PR trying to center themselves as the head of the family have fallen flat, with Harry seen as the one to fix everything.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Did the Cambridges even make any statement? I have seen one anywhere.

    • Lowrider says:

      Phillips death has turned into one big PR rehab. It’s gross and shows how low this family will go to maintain their status.

    • Jay says:

      @carabella Wow, it has quotes from everybody but the Cambridges it seems. Hmm. That, coupled with all the talk about Harry and comparisons to his grandfather will likely be riling somebody’s temper. I wonder how long it will take before we hear from Will? That “open letter” from Dan Wooten seems extra petty and small now. Or maybe we’ll hear more from the Middleton machine about Kate the Great quietly being supportive and keen to be a peacemaker between the two brothers, a trio once more.

      Or maybe, out of respect for the seriousness of the event and the crisis being faced in the country and with the monarchy, they’ll do the smart thing and lay low. First time for everything, right?

      • Cessily says:

        Maybe he was told “enough” after that “ open letter” was published. The fact that it came out shortly before PP death might have been a very wrong move. Just a theory as to the the Cambridge’s are silent

      • Jaded says:

        @Cessily – I agree, that Wootton letter was the worst possible thing for Attilliam the Hun to tacitly agree to. The constant barrage of empty praise has reached ridiculous levels and does nothing to burnish TOB’s image — if anything it just continues to draw attention to his childish hubris and jealousy. Someone, most likely Charles, told him to knock it off. Set personal rivalries aside just for once to mourn a beloved family patriarch.

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        We can only hope someone told them to shut their bullsh*t down. If I were Charles I would have said something to William along the lines of, “Please remind that creepy writer friend of yours along with yourself that I’m the current future king and you are 2nd in line. Both of you seem to forget that. Get in line or I’ll relocate you to the Pitcairn Islands.”.

        Though that would be cruel to the islanders.

        That letter was/is disparaging to Charles too (regardless of what he may or may not deserve), Dan Wantswill shouldn’t write about honoring the monarchy if he himself can’t remember who is actually next in line.

        It would be funny if we were to get a headline saying Charles told Will he’s getting to big for his boots or britches.

        Silence from the Cambridge’s is the best thing for everyone. Hopefully they will be hoisted by their own petard.

  39. Tym123 says:

    I just want to start this off by saying I hope everyone is having a great day…now here’s my take on this … it appears to me the royal family is using Philip’s death as good PR, because of the dark cloud hanging over their heads.

    • FicklePickle says:

      Well of course! Dead people are so much easier to use for PR points than living ones, after all. Living people have this annoying habit of not being precisely the same as whatever overwrought fiction the press is trying to present as fact on any given day.

  40. JanetDR says:

    I will feel so much better when Harry is back home safe and sound!

  41. Midnight@theOasis says:

    Seems like a full court press for the “rift/friction” to end. Guess everyone got their talking points. The BRF is using Phillip’s death as PR to get Harry to say he’s sorry for everything and make peace with the family. Harry is supposed to just forgive and forget the past four years of racism, hostility, jealousy thrown at Meghan and himself. The BRF need to be the ones to bend the knee and apologize to Meghan and Harry. Not that that will ever happen.

    • Cessily says:

      Yes they want the apology, which he does not owe them. Sadly this family and country think that they own him because of who he was born to. So in essence he has been a “working Royal” since his first photo. I empathize with his points, the tabloids, BRF and country delighted in the frenzy around Lady Di until it was to late, only then was everyone sorry and horrified. Well PH called bullsh*t and he’s not taking that chance again and if the tabloids, family and public had any decency you would honor his wishes. Especially the tabloids and paparazzi, haven’t you taken enough of this mans life? Just because someone wants a different lifestyle or career does not make it wrong. Let the family say goodbye. Hopefully they resolve things but it won’t be easy and probably will take longer than this visit.

  42. aquarius64 says:

    The Cambridge’s are MIA in the tributes…why? Everyone has made a statement even Andrew. The BM wants a money shot of Harry and William patching things up but too much has happened to be fixed at one funeral. I think the BRF is angry that the Cambrigdes’ drug deals with the BM has damaged the Windsors but they let Billy off the lease and run loose.

  43. Dl says:

    Opinion of fellow CB ers. Is it possible, angry outbursts ridiculous PR ideas etc. That the keen bridges may like a white powdered substance?

    • Jaded says:

      Anything’s possible but I doubt very much that Bolivian Marching Powder has anything to do with it. William is simply a selfish, lazy, spoiled, narcissistic man-child married to a similarly emotionally and intellectually stunted woman, and neither of them can stand the fact that Harry and Meghan are miles above anything the Cambridges have accomplished or are able to accomplish. Like jealous little children, they lash out at the objects of their envy by trying to destroy them through the racist, misogynistic third party tabloid press.

    • FicklePickle says:

      It’s possible. William wouldn’t be the first trust-fund baby to be so bored of life he needed drugs to cope, and I *do* hear that cocaine is an excellent weight-loss drug so Kate might have interest. I don’t know if it’s likely.

  44. jocy says:

    The tabloids know exactly what they are doing don’t they — dehumanizing 1/2 a couple, putting both under a state of siege and making every day a tremendous test, impossible for either to be fully happy unless they stop looking holistically at the whole world.

  45. Teel says:

    I don’t understand the obsession about why the need to always drop how much the house (MANSION!!) Harry and Meghan live in costs: what’s the difference between their house and Anmer. Whar’s the difference between a large ‘country home’ in the UK (I’m Canadian so that’s a mansion to me) or a big house in Montecito, other than location?

    • Carmen-JamRock says:

      @Teel….the brits hv a schizophrenic & pretentious/hypocritical & twisted attitude towards money, driven by their classism.

      Historically, theres a distinct & pervasive ‘old money’ vs ‘new money’ syndrome thats rooted in their class system, where ‘old money’ was originally acquired thru pillage & plunder (aided & abetted by the monarch of the day) then the assets & their manner of acqisition are sanitized over time, as theyre passed down thru the generations.

      ‘Old money’ is directly associated wth the aristocracy in britain – the upper class/the “toffs.” Even today, ‘class’ in britain is more than abt the socio-economic system into which all nations divide their societies for information purposes abt their citizens. Beyond the usual: lower/(poor); working; middle; & upper socio-economic classes, britain has an unwritten social order, going bk to the days when their monarchy had teeth and were the actual rulers.

      Class is such an insidious concept in britain tht even if an ‘upperclass’ dweller loses all their wealth; or conversely, a ‘lowerclass’ dweller gains great wealth, u can never leave the stigma of the class u were born in.

      Theres a tall-poppy syndrome tht pervades the collective psyche of brits. Unlike Americans, for ex. who cheer rags to riches stories, brits seek to tear them down.
      And when such stories involve POC who, btw, are considered to be at the bottom of the rung in both their hidden & unhidden class structure, brits are particularly vicious.

    • Original Penguin says:

      The daily Mail is obsessed with the cost of people’s houses whether they are ordinary or royal. They’re stories are always so and so who lives in a x hundred thousand house….

    • Nana says:

      I think we all know the answer to that question, and it’s not isolated to the UK unfortunately.
      Only white people @teel (of a certain class) can have nice things/are deserving, without having to answer for anything or to anyone.

  46. aquarius64 says:

    Apparently you can’t fix stupid when it comes to the BM. The Fail is reporting Harry is staying within KP at Nott Cott for quarantine. And taken away in a Black Range Rover. The Cambridge mouthpiece Katie Nichol is spilling in Vanity Fair that Bulliam is talking to Harry and he wants to patch things up. Sure Jan. Until he apologizes to Meghan, drop the bullying staff investigation, and call off his dogs that’s a non starter. The fact Harry will have to wear a suit instead of a uniform, like Andrew, just resurrects the hurt they put on him is not going to make reconciliation a go. It looks like they want to punish him for the interview.

  47. NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

    Harry knows the drill and he’s spent a lifetime avoiding the tabloids. I’m almost certain that Harry was in England on Friday and landed just before or slightly after Philip’s death. I doubt they saw each other or said goodbye but I’ve no doubt that when he was told Philip was dying on Thursday, Harry left immediately, knowing Meghan was unlikely to follow. The tabloids won’t get anything if they were looking for Harry. He will red herring them all day long and the fact they are still this unhinged after The Duke of Edinburgh’s death and are barely following protocol shows just how unhinged the media in the UK has become.

  48. blunt talker says:

    If the royal family wants to put all difficulties behind as Prince Harry returns home, it needs to be a two sided effort-the royal family needs to make an effort to understand Harry and Meghan’s feelings about how they were treated for almost 4 years-leaking from the royal family about the Sussex family needs to stop unless Harry and Meghan give permission-the only time they talked about the royal family openly was to Oprah-Harry and Meghan need some relief from the British rags especially with untrue statements-Rest assure Meghan and Harry will not be discussing the royal family again with noone-I urge the royal family to look at both sides and the deep personal feelings that were hurt on both sides-The queen needs the support of her family members to get through this tough time-Both sides need to refrain from making things worse-This is about the life of Prince Philip and his achievements-not about any spats between family members-Regardless how each side feels they have been treated now is not the time to show fracture-Do what is right to help support the Queen during this difficult time-the fractures among certain family members can be solved with understanding, time, and patience.

  49. Imara219 says:

    Totally off note. Harry is the splitting image of his grandfather just with a broader face and red hair. He has his grandfather’s eyes, nose & lips. If you see younger pics it’s more obvious. If you see a side by side of his grandfather when younger and Harry it’s quite noticeable.

  50. Chichi says:

    I thought I was the only one who had noticed the resemblance. I saw that pic of Philip with a beard and I was like 🤯

    • Imara219 says:

      Yes! I was really shocked that people keep making the “joke” that Harry isn’t Charles.

  51. Donna B. says:

    Harry should be cautious around Fergie & Anne/her children.