Expectations for Prince Harry reconciling with his family are at ‘rock bottom’

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Tom Sykes at the Daily Beast has a funny summary of what’s been happening on the ground at Windsor this week, with the prodigal son’s return to bury his grandfather. The headline: “Prince Harry Is Having a Very Weird Week Back in the U.K.” It’s true. The best thing Sykes does here is point out what we’re NOT hearing from all of those bitchy little royal elves, which is anything about Harry being in steady communication with senior royals. There’s nothing about that. We haven’t even heard that Harry has spoken to his grandmother! Some highlights from this piece:

Harry is staying in the Frogmore Cottage suite designed for Doria Ragland: The lavishly restored period property into which he and Meghan moved just 24 months ago, and dreamed of making their home, now houses his cousin Princess Eugenie and her husband Jack and their baby. The tenants are still there, and the owner is holed up in what was once intended as Doria Ragland’s (Meghan Markle’s mom) self-contained apartment, The Daily Beast understands.

No one knows if Harry has spoken to the Queen: He is literally just a few miles away from Windsor Castle, but if he has spoken to his father or the queen, no-one is saying so. And this despite the fact that, bizarrely, Her Majesty carried out an official duty Tuesday, overseeing the retirement of one of her senior aides, recorded thus by the official court circular: “The Earl Peel had an audience of The Queen today, delivered up his Wand and Insignia.” (Was Earl Peel was ordered to leave his wand on the desk on the way out?).

While William & Harry have spoken on the phone, William is still in Norfolk: There is, frankly, no suggestion from royal aides that being in the same time zone has helped mend fences, no sense of joyous white smoke going up from Frogmore or 140 miles north at Anmer Hall, where William and Kate are rather pointedly spending the last days of the Easter holidays with their children, rather than waving at Harry from the garden of Frogmore Cottage like some of us might be inclined to do.

Rock bottom expectations: But while hopes of a major reconciliation between Harry and his family are being talked up by commentators, the reality on the ground is that expectations are at rock bottom. Emotions are strained and the wounds inflicted by Harry and Meghan’s interview with Oprah Winfrey are still raw. The media may have moved on; the family will never forget what, as they see it, was Harry’s betrayal of them. There are also the unanswered questions over the identity of the royal family member who allegedly questioned the color of the then-unborn Archie’s skin, and who allegedly stopped Meghan being able to access help when she was feeling suicidal.

Philip’s death didn’t really change anything: Many of the 29 other royals attending the funeral on Saturday will feel the same way as one friend of the family who, The Daily Beast reported, said this week: “Philip was already seriously ill when the interview screened. He was 99, so the fact that he has died is of course very sad, but hardly surprising. His death may put things into perspective, but I’m not sure it really changes anything.”

[From The Daily Beast]

I’ve said this a few times, but the whole “William and Harry reunion” is a smokescreen for the larger issues of Harry’s relationships with his grandmother and father. I have no idea if Harry even believes his relationship with the Other Brother is salvageable or if he even wants to reconcile. But the thing with Charles is big and there’s a lot of drama there. And I do think it’s notable that we haven’t heard one f–king word about Charles and Harry speaking on the phone, or Charles stopping by Frogmore Cottage or whatever. It will be very curious to see if Harry gets any time one-on-one with the Queen as well.

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  1. swirlmamad says:

    It crossed my mind this morning — in regards to the kerfuffle about Fergie texting Piers and being the one who “thanked” him….I know the theory is he threw her under the bus because she’s the most expendable and has no recourse or support to push back, and it certainly wouldn’t be out of character for her based on all we know of Fergie’s past behavior…..but I also wonder if that was done maliciously to throw a wrench into his documented good relationship with Eugenie, to try to sabotage the Sussexes’ relationship with the few supportive family members left? IDK….I put nothing past these people.

    • Snuffles says:

      Fergie being a hot mess is not a revelation for Harry. Harry has always known what a hot mess the York parents are. It’s never stopped him from being close to the sisters.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Did Fergie actually “thank” Piss Morgan for what he said against the Sussexes or did she just send condolences to him over losing his job?

        Fergie is NOT the sharpest tool in the shed.

      • PrincessK says:

        Fergie is not as stupid as you think. Her strategy is self preservation. She is perpetually skating on thin ice and knows the value of keeping enemies close, and the odious Morgan is one of them, he has written negative articles about her beloved Andrew but she still sent a supportive text. That tells you what her clever strategy is. Fergie is in this for the long haul. She knows that she can be pulled under at any time but she also knows that she has the ability to pull them all under. This is why people like Charles and Philip disliked her so much, she knows too much.

      • A says:

        @Bay, por que no los dos, as they say?

        Sad thing is, not only is Fergie not the sharpest tool in the shed, she’s not an all star either.

    • Well Wisher says:

      Exactly. Cain threatened by implication in fail publication that if Harry isn’t deferential enough when they meet in person, he would be banished from the family.
      The Yorks have continued their relationship with their cousin so Cain will create conflict via Piss Morgan. Maybe he did not get the support he expected from the rest of the family concerning the Suxesses.

    • Maxime duCamp says:

      I would love to see CB coverage of the York’s machinations to regain some ground within the royal family hierarchy before Philip has even been buried. I read somewhere that Fergie has been joining QE for walks 2x a day.

      • BABSORIG says:

        I honestly don’t care if either Ferguson or her horrible rapisr ex/husband get back to doing royal duties or they don’t. The most of the royal lot are just a bunch of over hyped idiots anyway and the Brits don’t seem to mind continuing to support these super wealthy idiots so what the fukc ever. I just want to see evidence of Harry ever talking to William and then I’ll believe it. I think Harry hasn’t communicated with any of them, that includes PWBT but KP idiots think they need to lie so as TOB don’t look bad. KP is also probably laying the ground work for subsequent stories of “Harry missed his brother and he was the first person he called to apologize” blah blah blah, 🙄🙄🙄. I strongly believe that the lack of leaks about Harry is because he has only spoken to the Brookesbanks and thats it.

  2. Lady D says:

    That headline made me laugh.
    We’ll know Harry is the favourite if he does get one on one time with Her Maj.

    • Yvette says:

      @Lady D … I agree, and I hope Harry does get one on one time with the Queen–and Prince Charles. I believe this is why the palace aides and/or courtiers blocked Harry’s meeting with the Queen when he and Meghan flew back from Canada in January 2020, because they know Harry is one of the Queen’s favorites and might have gotten what he wanted.

  3. Sofia says:

    Harry came to honour his grandfather that he loved very much. Not to hug it out with the rest of the family and ask for forgiveness. Harry most likely knew his family would be frosty and made some peace with it. It’ll hurt but again, he probably expected it.

  4. Snuffles says:

    “The media may have moved on; the family will never forget what, as they see it, was Harry’s betrayal of them.”

    Ha! The media has NOT moved on! Bitch, PUH-lease! 🙄

    I think we heard about William and Harry talking because William leaks EVERYTHING. Charles and the Queen have demonstrated that they can, on occasion, keep their mouth shut. So it’s possible that they are talking. I hope Harry can spend a private moment with the Queen before he leaves.

    As far as the sense of betrayal goes, that’s 90% the Cambridges and their courtiers. I think the rest of the family will eventually get over it.

    • Betsy says:

      I agree. I just don’t think we’d know if Harry had talked to anyone other than William because no one runs their trap to the media like William and Kate do.

      • J says:

        Wrong! Meghan

      • Bex says:

        No, not Meghan. She doesn’t rely on “palace sources” and whinging to tabloid editors to tell them about “not being able to put arms around” a sibling, like William did. That little quote ended up being a front page story at the Telegraph.

      • Nina says:

        @J. She has every right to tell her side of the story and speak her truth through any means available. She did not lose her right to be free from lies being told about her just because she married into THAT family.
        To people in Britain marrying into that family might be a social achievement but the rest of the world see them for what they are.

    • Mrs.Krabapple says:

      I’m sick of hearing about his “hurt family” and “reconciliation,” as if Harry is to blame, and as if it’s only a simple personal issue. He’s not, and it’s not. This is about RACISM in the royal family, who are public officials. Who cares if Harry does manage to “reconcile” with his family? The base problem (racism) is still there. THAT should be the royals’ focus, and because it’s not, that says a lot about them, and how terrible they really are.

    • Nina says:

      How do you move on from your main moneymaker. They didn’t move on, they still sniffing around hoping for some crumbs. They just cannot print lies with impunity anymore. They know that the Sussexxs have them over a barrel. They will get sued for printing libelous stories.

  5. Phoenix says:

    What happened to Kate “the peacemaker”?
    The family doesn’t heal from their wounds, they are healing their reputation.
    It’s Harry and Meghan that are healing…away from them…together.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Whiplash…..now there’s no way Harry will reconcile with anyone. Keen’s peace brokering was a big fat fail.

      • RedWeatherTiger says:

        The lovey-dovey sexually-unsatisfied wife gazes and guffaws just couldn’t mend the rift. Alas.

    • Jegede says:

      Exactly.

      This blows away all we’ve been hearing from – errr, Royal Reporters – here in Blighty🙄🙄

      (Thank you Kaiser for this piece, on behalf of us who can’t access DB).

  6. Heat says:

    I suspect that Harry is only there to honour his grandfather and out of respect for his grandmother. I’d say he will have some alone-time with her before he leaves.
    But he’s not there for William nor his father. He doesn’t owe them anything, here. If an olive branch is ever extended, it needs to be from Charles or William to Harry and Meghan, not the other way around.

    • LRob says:

      Yep. The BM are not reading the room. The interview established serious abuse and neglect by the RF of the Sussexes and they need to admit it and fix it. It is the RF’s work to do, not Harry and Meghan’s job. It does not matter if family members were hurt by the interview; it was a justified RESPONSE to 4 yrs of abuse and they need to deal with it.

  7. JanetDR says:

    Well, good! I hope he is on a plane heading home as soon as the service is over. They don’t have 2 sides of the first square to start the foundation of the work they would have to do to make it possible to have a family relationship with Harry.

  8. Lauren says:

    Why are they surprised? They expect Harry to be the apologetic one, but the boy is clearly saying fck you all. He returned for his grandfather if his grandmother wants to meet him great, but Harry isn’t sticking around to hear his family complain about the interview.

  9. Carol says:

    “ those bitchy little royal elves”…

    *chef’s kiss*

  10. lanne says:

    A father who couldnt even take his son’s calls when his son and his family were in danger is probably not going to be calling said son when son returns home for a funeral. Charles and TOB have shown us who they are. The world revoles around them, their feelings are the only ones that matter. Both of them have been spectacularly indulged all their lives. Harry needs to get through this funeral and then go home to his real family.

    • Ginger says:

      As a parent, hearing that Charles wouldn’t take his sons call while he was struggling and asking for help, really upsets me. I would do anything for my kids and will always answer when they call. Charles is a pathetic coward. I can’t wait for Harry to be home with his family.

      • Tessa says:

        Charles seems to do the not taking calls routine. Lady Dale Tryon was dying and Charles would not take her calls. She the person who was his married mistress and he said she was the only woman who understood hi.

  11. Cecilia says:

    1 i am genuinely sick of people painting the windsors as victims. The royals feel betrayed because harry did 1 interview? Try having you shit leaked for 3 good years and being scapegoated your whole life. Then we can talk.
    2. I think its important to remember that harry has to self isolate. Which is probably the most logical reason why he hasn’t seen the queen.
    3 sykes is pointing out the obvious. Relationship between the brothers won’t be mended. William has some serious soul searching to do.

    4. Does anybody think that it has been unusually quiet around casa Cambridge? No “source” about how william feels now that harry is back in town.

    • Lady D says:

      William is still hiding out in the country. Cain and Unable are afraid of accountability or even what Harry might say publicly to them. I think they will keep a lot of space between Harry and themselves, unless they can get a ‘money shot’ of the three of them.

      • death by bacon says:

        Cain and Unable. I am dead😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣😅😅

      • Lady D says:

        Thank you but it’s not mine. I wish I could remember the original poster, this is my all time favourite insult. So apt. If there is ever a contest to see who has the best moniker for those two, I’m submitting Cain and Unable for top spot.

    • TeamMeg says:

      I’m so sick of this, too. That interview was so not a scathingly vindictive tell-all take-down. It was H and M kindly and honestly explaining why they left. It also was an invitation for reconciliation. If anyone needs to apologize, it’s hardly Meghan and Harry.

    • Harla says:

      4. I too have noticed the unusual silence from the Cambridge’s and believe that either the queen or Charles told them to zip for the time being which I’m sure has made Wills Incandescent with Rage as usual.

      • PEARL GREY says:

        I’m not so sure the Cambridges have actually been all that silent. Sure, they have not yet pulled any pre-funeral publicity stunts in front of the cameras (there’s still time!), but they have been using their favourite tactic of getting their press pets to speak for them. They’ve been deployed to centre Kate Mandela as the influential peacemaker between the brothers, William has his foot soldiers working hard to push stories of whether or not he will wield his king-like benevolence to forgive traitor Harry for his betrayal, his sycophant army have been instructed to boost his ego and satisfy his “fans” thirst for hierarchy porn with endless takes on what Harry will wear and where Harry will sit/stand/walk/breathe in comparison to him, they’ve thrown Carole’s plastic party hat into the ring with far-fetched stories of the Middletons attending the funeral to convince everyone that it’s Kate’s family that has the royal seal of approval, they are posting Kate’s photographs of Philip with the Cambridge children to make sure the public knows how oh-so close and favoured they were to the deceased, and let’s not forget that straight from the horse’s mouth, the direct hits William (and Kate) took towards the Sussex family with their shamelessly pointed “tribute” to Philip. All of these stones are being thrown by them, while they hide their hands.

      • Jaded says:

        But of course the Cambridges released the family photo of QE and Philip with Wil-I-AM and the kiddies. More shameless self-promotion of their “special” relationship with them and a not-so-subtle put-down of Harry, Meghan and Archie – the “less thans”.

    • mariahlee says:

      the way the media (uk & international) talks, you’d think the interview was the start of the fallout. there’s seems to be zero expectation that the family make amends for their wrongdoings. it’s sick gaslighting.

      • Cecilia says:

        @mariahlee. The international media repeating the Uk media in that narrative has been the most disappointing part

      • Jazz says:

        There was a tweet from someone quoting a reporter for the Bild saying that the only interest international journalists gathered there have is on Harry, and only Harry. Where he is, what he’s doing, who his talking to, etc. But they understand that they can’t ask or question anything because of the circumstances.

        So maybe they’re parroting what BM is saying to sell the news because it’s still about Harry, but I got from that they were genuinely only there to get any kind of Harry news without the interference of the rota or BM.

    • Cessily says:

      It is amazing that that’s the interview that they are so “angry” about.. not the “well I stayed with a sex trafficker and teenage girls because the house was convient. I didn’t notice anything suspect about all the high school age girls everywhere, I don’t even remember if I did rape any.. well not to my recollection” (paraphrasing)
      But sure ok be livid about PH..

      • Mrs.Krabapple says:

        THIS. How eager people are to criticize Harry and Meghan, who just want to avoid racist attacks and personal vendettas against them . . . but turn a blind eye to the rapist/sex trafficker.

    • LaraW” says:

      Hahaha you put “William” and “soul” in the same sentence.👻

  12. Woke says:

    I think Charles and Harry relationship will recover with time. Maybe not like how he was but still.
    There’s no way William will have a meaningful relationship again even if he apologizes and start acting right, especially if he really is the one that made the comment about Archie’s skin color.

    • Vavavoom says:

      I still think it was Camilla. She seems the type to say something snarky and try to make it seem like a joke even though she meant it. And I also don’t think Harry would think twice mentioning it in the interview if she was the one who said it. I doubt He or William actually like her.

  13. Sunday says:

    Tom Sykes has framed this in the same asinine manner as the British media. If your boyfriend cheats on you, and you find out while on a dinner date and storm out of the restaurant, he has zero right to be angry with you for storming out and embarrassing him in a crowded dining room, stuck with the check. IDGAF if the royal family feels they were betrayed by the Oprah interview (they weren’t), what precipitated the interview is what matters – Harry and Meghan were being used as media bait, as human shields against any actual scandal, allowing the media to lambast their every move and stirring up virulent racism and threatened and attempted violence, and when they asked for help they were at best ignored and at worst subjected to further emotional and psychological abuse. But it’s the interview that’s brought shame to the family? Give me a break.

    • Cecilia says:

      You worded it all so beautiful. Im absolutely sick of everybody pretending that the Windsors have been wronged because of that interview. Had they shown some sort of support for the sussexes that interview would have never taken place to begin with. They have nobody but themselves to blame but everybody is putting the onus for an apology on harry. Im tired

    • TeamMeg says:

      +💯

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      Exactly. Dan Wootton’s letter to William (and pretty much anything else he’s written) brought more shame and embarrassment to the RF along with all the other disgusting false stories about H & M in the British media that were sanctioned by the leakers than the Oprah interview did.

      As if Harry would want to reconcile with William after that F&ckery of a letter and all of William’s/Kate’s other subterfuge over the last 4/5 years.

    • Couch potato says:

      So true! I watched a documentary about the Diana interview shortly after M&H’s interview. One of the things I noticed was all the middle aged white men appearing on telly, commenting on how wrong Diana was for making the interview, how she disgraced the royal family, how she made a fool of herself etc. While large groups of the public cherished her for speaking up. History has shown she’s the one who came out “on top” reputation vice (in most peoples mind), while Charles and the RF were considered a bunch of cold fish. Back then, the older generation supported the queen while the younger supported Diana, and we see the same today with H&M. It’s anoying to hear all this shit about H&M, but I think they will be the winners of peoples hearts and respect in the long run.

      • Soupie says:

        @couchpotato
        I think it’s interesting what you’re saying because the younger people who supported Diana back then are now older. I support Harry and Meghan because now, like back then, I see the real family as being extremely toxic and cold. And it is becoming more and more clear to me and many others that H&M being used as a shield is hiding something very dark indeed.

    • February-Pisces says:

      I know people in real life say “but harrys ruined things now with his family”. I’m like how the f*ck does that work? His family colluding with the press to ruin his entire life is what ruined that relationship.

  14. Myra says:

    They likely feel that they have been vindicated after the media has gone to great lengths to paint Meghan as a liar and Harry, a traitor. Their arrogance will prevent them from taking the necessary steps to repair the relationship with both Harry and Meghan. The only damage control they will attempt will be through the media and performative allyship. Neither William nor Charles will ever attempt to reach out to Harry, unless directly called out by the media. Only then will they react because that is where they get their marching orders. They forget though that people no longer rely on the media to form their views.

    • Cecilia says:

      Hmm im not entirely to sure about that. Brits genuinely see the meghan and harry ordeal as petty “titter tatter” that the palace doesn’t get involved in. Because any communication happens directly from their press offices. Seems like Brits, right wing america, and right wing Australia are more than willing to believe what they are being sold.

      • Cessily says:

        I guess for the commonwealth countries that pick up and run with the tabloid stories as fact have no journalist or journalistic integrity to verify if the known tabloid is correct before you endorce misleading or out right lies in story after story with “a person close to” or “palace” sources.
        ex: sky news Australia I used to think sky news stood for at least semi reputable, now they are just deleted.

      • Myra says:

        People who leans on the right politically will believe whatever they are being sold by RW media. It’s like a cult. Seriously, Murdoch is the single most dangerous threat to democracy everywhere.

        Still, they’re not everyone, judging by social media. When Meghan and Harry trend (it’s mostly positive from what I’ve seen), but when the BRF trends, it’s almost always negative. Younger demographics are less likely to buy into RW/racist narratives, especially when they see Meghan and Harry champion progressive causes.

      • Nic919 says:

        I would say in Canada that outside of die hard royalists, of which there are few, most people don’t see the interview as a bad thing especially since not much was revealed. And most people have thought the BRF was messed up since Diana and so the parallel to treating one of Diana’s sons similarly isn’t shocking, nor are the racist comments made about Archie.

        I don’t think anyone in the government made any comments about the interview, certainly not in an official way. Mostly because we are still dealing with a pandemic and that’s much more important to everyone here.

  15. Sarah says:

    To anyone reading this: You do not have to reconcile with your toxic family for any reason other than your healing and well-considered desire to do so based on *their* genuine growth, changed behaviour, and contrition.

  16. windyriver says:

    Another interesting comment in that Daily Beast article is that Prince Andrew has retained an advisory firm, which sounds like it’s a professional entity, as opposed to. say, hiring a former employee from the National Health to start in a month or two, and therefore, at least an intelligent move on the part of a member of the RF, even if it’s Andrew.

    Of course, not hard to guess why Andrew has retained advice (though we don’t know he’s actually taking that advice – the fuss he made about a promotion and wearing an Admiral uniform implies, maybe not). As per former BBC reporter Peter Hunt: “It’s striking that Andrew thought he could use his father’s funeral to advance his rehabilitation and that it took the leak of news about his uniform choice, to stop him.”

    Another interesting Hunt comment: “‘Uniform gate’ might just prompt thoughtful royals to reflect on the mistakes they made when they removed Prince Harry’s military appointments and shut the door on Harry and Meghan – rather than leaving it slightly ajar.”

    So, in the wake of Harry and Meghan’s departure, and the Oprah interview, and with no other actions on their part, both Piers Morgan and Sharon Osborne have lost their broadcast positions, and the RF has been put on the spot for their vindictive moves denying Harry’s wreath on Remembrance Day, and removing his military patronages prior to that.

    • Nic919 says:

      Peter Hunt has been much more balanced with his comments once he stopped being the BBC royal correspondent. That in itself is significant.

      • windyriver says:

        I wasn’t familiar with Hunt, or most of the RR actually, before Harry and Meghan connected. I do look at his feed periodically, have continued because he does appear to be more or less balanced. For a couple of weeks after the Oprah interview, his pinned tweet was the front page of the Mirror referring to the question about Archie’s skin color, and his comment was, “This is a stain on the royals that will endure. No amount of palace spin will erase”. Gave him credit for keeping the issue highlighted like that, especially with so many others – the RF (Will), the media (Society of Editors), and the government (commissioned report) claiming, oh no, no racism here.

  17. Eating Popcorn says:

    So, I have my own theory which is that Charles and Harry have been in touch AND no one is leaking it. Harry is not the type to ignore his father’s father dieing (even at 99.) I really believe the keens are the source of drama and leaks they are the ones who are incandescent. I believe they are being kept out of the loop, which is why they stayed in Norfolk.

    • Snuffles says:

      Same. Charles can keep his mouth shut when he wants to. It’s William who can’t because he’s made that devil’s deal with the tabloids.

    • Sunday says:

      I agree, and I think the “Prince Harry will be quarantining at Nottingham Cottage” was something that the cambridges were intentionally told as a test to see if they would still leak, which they failed spectacularly.

    • swirlmamad says:

      I can jive with this. I think this is likely the case as well — Charles and Harry may very well HAVE spoken, it’s just that the vultures didn’t find out about it…because their main pipeline to the tea is 100+ miles away. Now, what is and has been keeping them there until the funeral this weekend is another mystery to sort out….

  18. Cessily says:

    PH was the only close family member to PP that had to make any form of sacrifice to attend his grandfathers funeral. (Left his pregnant wife and son weeks before a birth and birthday to fly half way around the world quarantine long enough to attend) Instead of letting the quarantine and funeral time be an actual “time of mourning and letting the family member that relative that passed” it has been the tabloid sh*t show leading with a bitter nastiness that is an all time new low (they used to save the truly deplorable headlines for Duchess Meghan).
    I hope PH has continued to document and keep a history of facts in this also, I would like to see his PR team and pros take on all this negative press riddled with out right lies. No one has to worry about PH leaks he gives his name to what he statements. Not one of these articles had a NAMED source because they are all cowardly lies!

  19. Mina_Esq says:

    Harry isn’t there for a reconciliation. He is there to show his last respects to his grandfather. As simple as that. This isn’t the big return of Harry for which they have been wishing, hoping, praying over the past year lol He owes them nothing.

  20. Catherine says:

    To be fair no one should be dropping by Frogmore because Harry is isolating. The whole Philip death will repair the family narrative was a transparent attempt to emotionally blackmail Harry. I think in the past when he wanted to leave this is the tactic they used and thought it would work again. I also think they thought they would get some info or interaction that they could then leak to the media when they didn’t they had to change the narrative. I think Harry came to the UK with two things in mind. His grandfather’s funeral and his grandmother’s well being. I definitely think he had spoken to her. The UK media always pretends that they don’t talk that she is as incandescent as W. I agree the relationship with W is not salvageable. I think at this point Harry just wants to prevent E from constantly selling them out to the media.

  21. Amy Bee says:

    The press mistakenly believed that Harry returned to the UK for a reconciliation. He’s only there for his grandfather’s funeral. Plus, the fact that almost nothing has leaked about Harry means that he’s not been in contact with anybody from the Royal Family.

    • Ann says:

      I really don’t think they believe that’s why he’s there. I think they’re just pushing the story/theory because it’s what the people who eat that stuff up with a spoon want to read. It’s clicks, pure and simple. Some of them might be dumb enough to believe it but I think for most it’s just cynical provocation.

  22. Over it says:

    Harry and Meghan betrayal? Do these people piss backwards? It’s Harry and Meghan who have been the ones being betrayed and backs stabbed by these F—-ers for years, especially by the keenbridges.

  23. Rapunzel says:

    “William and Kate are rather pointedly spending the last days of the Easter holidays with their children, rather than waving at Harry from the garden of Frogmore Cottage like some of us might be inclined to do.”

    Wtf is this line? W&K don’t have a place anywhere near Frogmore to be waving at Harry. If they weren’t in Norfolk, they’d be in London.

    And “rather pointedly spending” is weird af. Pointedly to whom? Harry? That makes no sense. Is the BM subtly implying The Cambs are sticking it to the rest of the RF by hiding in Norfolk?

  24. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    2 things
    I have said it before and will say it always: Meghan in that green dress is EVERYTHING (as is Kate’s sour face and we all know why)
    In the wedding pic Kate looks like she is in mourning. That face!

    • Nic919 says:

      Kate looked miserable for that entire wedding. It was so immature to act like that. Especially when we know she can do the hyena grins on a dime. She just couldn’t be bothered.

      • Robin says:

        I’m just looking at the photo, and goodness Kate looks 20% glum plus 80% simmering with jealousy. Ouch. I watched it and remember her smirks and injokes with Camilla.

  25. Islandgirl says:

    “the wounds inflicted by Harry and Meghan’s interview with Oprah Winfrey are still raw”
    Is that the only wounding that took place?
    Harry and Meghan were wounded for 3+ years but they want you to believe that this story started with the interview.
    Disappointed with Tom Sykes. I expect better ftom him. Sometime his aristocratic racist background gets the better of him.

    • True says:

      Never expect better from Sykes. He has moments then returns to his true self.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Tom Sykes can be quite biased and not always accurate. I still remember him mocking Meghan’s Vogue and calling it a flop. Not surprised he sees the interview as a betrayal because the royals have a mafia mentality. The sin isn’t the crime, but revealing that a crime took place. The thing is, it wasn’t like the Royal family was exactly appreciative or rewarding the Sussexes silence before the interview. They kept attacking them and making up lies and distorting facts, like that birth certificate story. However ,this quote makes sense: “Philip was already seriously ill when the interview screened. He was 99, so the fact that he has died is of course very sad, but hardly surprising.” No one in their right mind is expecting a reconciliation because it can’t be one sided. The royals don’t see anything wrong with the way they treated Meghan and Harry, and are only upset that they spoke about it to someone as huge as Oprah. Harry will attend he funeral, see his grandfather buried, wrap up a few things, then fly back home to California. That’s it.

    • damejudi says:

      Typical narcissist crap.

      They never they do anything wrong, instead it’s your reaction, aka entirely reasonable emotions, that are the real problem.

  26. TheOriginalMia says:

    I’m so sick of hearing that the Oprah interview was a betrayal. Harry & Meghan set the record straight. They told the truth. The reaction from William & the courtiers has been the equivalent of the old phrase “hit dogs will yelp”.

    The BM have turned this funeral into a circus. They have been disrespectful to Phillip and the Queen, not Harry. We haven’t heard anything from Harry about his family. Just his sentiments on his grandfather.

  27. aquarius64 says:

    As I said in another thread the BM is cheesed no reconciliation=no access and no leaks. The BRF is mad because no reconciliation = no image rehab for the Windsors, no return of the prodigal son, no divorce.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Well said and exactly right

    • Nyro says:

      This was supposed to be like Black Friday for the British media and now it’s all ruined. Actually, the statue unveiling was supposed to be their Black Friday but this took precedence obviously. But anyway, they were supposed to feed their families for the next two years off of this drama and now they won’t even get the “William and Harry, shoulder to shoulder!!!!” money shot they were looking for. They won’t even get facial expressions thanks to masks. No grand state funeral and the pageantry, nothing Lol. Philip really did the Sussexes a solid by dying during covid and before the statue unveiling. The whole thing has been an anti climactic dud for the media. We love to see it. Lol

  28. windyriver says:

    Will and Harry will walk in the procession – with Peter Philips between them. They’ll follow Charles and Anne, Andrew and Edward. Anne’s husband Tim Laurence and Margaret’s son Lord Snowden will follow Will/Peter/Harry. TQ will follow the procession in her Bentley. Kate, along with Camilla and other family members apparently not part of the procession.

    Will will be seated with Peter Philips, apart from Harry, who will be seated with Lord Snowden. Apparently no official comment about why Will and Harry are separated.

    So yeah, reconciliation between the brothers is about as far from happening as can be imagined, and the family are well aware of that.

    https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a36133219/prince-philip-funeral-arrangements-harry-william/

    • CrazyHeCallsMe says:

      Thanks for posting the article. I love this part: ” Guests, who will all be wearing face masks, have been asked not to join in song due to current COVID-19 protocol.” I was hoping they would wear masks so there won’t be any nonsense about reading Harry’s emotions.

  29. equality says:

    The RF all feel betrayed? They are ignoring the fact that tabloids reported Harry had spoken to Charles, Eugenie, and Bea before he came to the UK. Obviously, he is speaking to Eugenie. He and Meghan spoke to Phil and Liz on videochat frequently. There are only 2 members of the family with big issues, K&W.

  30. Liz version 700 says:

    Will thought running g Harry out would make him the darling. Now he is isolated and despised by pretty much everyone except Queen Mother CarolE. Hope that works great foe you your Supreme Incandescence. I swear if the monarchy survives until William it will be like the Clampets took over Windsor. Good Help the Queen

  31. Well Wisher says:

    The pattern that is a recent development point to silence from Prince Charles? The two from the Daily Beast. They seem like a implicit threat.
    Most of the coverage to this point, especially the whinging and protestations from the BTM grievance committee about the Oprah interview can be traced to Bill and Kate. It is about Bill’s need to dominate his brother, the death of their grandfather is secondary for Bill to regain the narrative as a means of control via briefings.
    But whinges are limited in their effect if the other person maintain their dignified silence and understand that they can chose to speak on their individual terms.
    This has established the fact that Harry is in the UK to pay tribute to his grandfather’s life and service. He seems disinterested in Bill’s wants. Bill view himself as the BRF whereas Harry seem to have cordial relations with some members of the family. That will disavow the need for reconciliation. So it is about Bill and Kate.
    Now that the family has released the funeral plans for Prince Philip the needless whinge and cringe will cease for at least a few hours. Harry through pleased to be there for his grandfather’s funeral would no less be relieved to be away from his dysfunctional brother. When will Bill stop conflating his competency with what he perceive as Harry’s limitations? Harry has adulted into a functioning human being, while it seemed as time stood still for Bill and he is just 2 years old? in maturity.

  32. Emily_C says:

    Jehovah’s Witnesses, Scientologists, and other… “groups” like that also freeze out people who speak up about abuse. Harry, Meghan, their children, and any pets they have likely won’t be treated to full-on fair gaming like Scientology does, but there will be constant negative media about them, originating in the “group” they dared to leave and tell the truth about.

    • Ann says:

      My husband and I have a close friend whose sister and her husband got caught up with Scientology. It took them years to get out. A few years ago they were at our house for a New Years Eve party, and they were lots of fun. I can’t even imagine how hard it was for him and his two other siblings (and his and their spouses) during the time when she was literally trapped by that cult. She had smart, savvy siblings trying to help her and it was still tough.

      Cults are so scary.

  33. Merricat says:

    Harry can’t wait to get back home to his family in sunny California, and who could blame him? He has a sweet life now.