Prince Harry is probably taking a flight back to California today, or maybe not?

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On Sunday, I kept waiting to hear that Prince Harry was en route back to California following his week-long sojourn to the UK. I thought we would hear yesterday that he was flying back or that he had arrived in California Sunday evening, the day after his grandfather’s funeral. It didn’t happen. Instead, there are assorted reports about Harry’s plans. One outlet says he’s flying home today. Other outlets claim he’s waiting several days so he can see his grandmother on her birthday (which is Wednesday, April 21st).

The morning after the momentous day before brings a few questions. How is the queen? We hope settled with a lovely pot of tea in her favorite room at Windsor, family at least on Zoom or a few safe feet away, and comforting Corgis snaffling at her feet.

“It is thought Harry is keen to spend some time with the Queen, the Prince of Wales, William and his wider family in the coming days, and may remain in the UK for the monarch’s 95th birthday on Wednesday, which will be marked privately, before returning to California,” the Sunday Times reports.

As ever with Harry, however, predicting his next move is a tough call. The Mail, for example, claims that Harry is “anxious” to return to America to be with Meghan, and “could fly back to Los Angeles as early as tomorrow [Monday].”

[From The Daily Beast]

The Mail on Sunday had a story that Harry would spend one more night (Sunday night) in Frogmore and then take a return flight today. But the Mail also had this story:

Prince Harry may delay his return to Los Angeles to stay for the Queen’s birthday on Wednesday, reports say.

The Duke of Sussex is said to have booked an open flight to the US – meaning he could go back after his grandmother turns 95. Prince Harry’s plane ticket means he could spend Wednesday with the Queen for her first birthday without her beloved husband. It would mean a delay in seeing his 23-month-old son Archie and his wife Meghan Markle, who is pregnant with their second child.

[From The Daily Mail]

I think it’s interesting that no one knows for sure? Harry must not have told his return flight plans to Prince Charles and Willileaks, so they’re just shooting in the dark when they brief British media outlets. That being said, I also find it a bit suspicious that Harry or his spokesperson haven’t confirmed anything. I was expecting a simple story in People Mag, like “Harry has already left the UK” or “Harry is set to return Monday evening.” For what it’s worth, I don’t see him staying in Windsor for his grandmother’s birthday.

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  1. ThatgirlThere says:

    I’m surprised he’s not already home to be honest. That’s all I have to say.

    • Jegede says:

      Very much same.

      But maybe he’s staying for Louis b-day, he hasn’t seen his niece and nephews in a long while.

      • Sofia says:

        Louis’ birthday is a few days before Archie and I doubt Harry is missing his son’s birthday.

      • vs says:

        why should he care? do W&K care about Archie? this is just incredible….

      • swirlmamad says:

        Harry staying a couple extra days for his grieving widowed grandmother’s birthday…..kind of makes sense. Harry staying for Louis’ birthday, when he hasn’t seen his own son in over a week? Makes no sense.

      • Becks1 says:

        Louis’ birthday is friday, I would be surprised if he stays that long, that’s almost two weeks away from his wife and son.

        Archie’s bday is May 6, I’m not sure what the quarantine rules are for returning to the US from the UK, so if Harry has to quarantine at all, he’s going to make sure he’s able to go home and quarantine and be out before Archie’s bday.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Jegede: Yeah no, I don’t think Harry’s that close to his nephews and niece that he want to stay for Louis’ birthday and we’re still in a pandemic. I don’t people can just pop over to other people’s houses just yet.

      • WithTheAmerican says:

        It’s so toxic how his brothers kids are elevated to the point that people expect Harry to stay longer to see them when no one even bothered to protect his own child.

        I would never visit the children of a sibling who endangered my own child.

      • Yvette says:

        If Harry stays, it’s all about the Queen. I actually think it’s best if Harry stays for his grandmother’s birthday because … couples who are married for long periods of time often ‘leave’ soon after their mate. Not trying to be morbid, it’s just what happens sometimes. Imagine the vitriol if Harry leaves 2-days before the Queen’s birthday and Elizabeth passes soon after Philip. We would never hear the end of it in the British media.

        I hope Harry stays at Frogmore for the Queen’s birthday, and then I hope he hops his behind on the first jet he finds and gets the heck out of there.

        The Royal Family aren’t addressing anything Harry and Meghan said in their interview, they’re only projecting it all back onto the Sussexes and using this as another way of isolating them. That is … unless Harry divorces Meghan and leaves his mixed-race children in Montecito. Then all would be forgiven.

      • Dimsum Mum says:

        I agree with you Yvette. Really hoping Harry stays on a few days.

    • DuchessL says:

      I’m wouldnt be surprised that he stays a few more days with his family, he hasnt seen them since at least 1 year. He has lived 35 years with them. Nobody can erase that. I mean whatever goes wrong in a family, when u live that far, you gotta make it worth the travel and check the most boxes you can. I hope he stays for his granny’s 95th birthday. And he takes sometime to speak to his father and brother and rush to leave.

      • WithTheAmerican says:

        These narratives about “nobody can erase that” suggest someone other than Harry is trying to.

        Harry is the one who was miserable a d left his no good family who treated him like dirt. If they want the good brother, they need to step up and show him, his wife, and their children some respect.

      • Brielle says:

        @withtjeAmerican this is gaslighting 101 and textbook that person don’t care about Meghan…Everybody sane who and that there is nothing nurturing about this family,just cold and racist ppl…Harry grew up in a crazy household with his mother fighting with his father,affairs and everything crazy…and after she died,his father was only concerned by being Camilla tampon ,he let Harry educate himself and making his big mistakes (drinking as a minor at his father’s house,wearing nazi costume,slurs…) even the rota said that Charles was not a present father…and Charles used Harry about that drug story to be the good father….and Harry grew up ,matured and find the right woman for him and they abused her and his father took back his security knowing that he was a target for white supremacists and other threats…but yeah let’s play family

      • Haylie says:

        Have they stopped using the press to attack his wife and child?

        No?

        Then yes, you can “erase that” or put up significant boundaries.

      • Lady D says:

        You’re assuming anyone wants to see him when he goes back. That’s not always the case.

      • Sarah says:

        I agree, if the Queen’s birthday is on Wednesday, I could see him staying until to spend some time with her.

      • Emmitt says:

        Harry got married when he was 33, 34 so no, he didn’t spend 35 years with them.

    • BnLurkN4eva says:

      Yeah. That’s all I got too.

  2. Runaway says:

    The first birthday after one’s passing is hard, all the first milestones are hard. I think it’ll play better in the press if he does stay and Flys out Thursday. But that being said, if he gets to meet privately with the Queen beforehand he may return sooner. It must be so anxiety producing being away from heavily pregnant meghan. I don’t think she is pressuring him either way too. Even though if he goes back before the Queen’s birthday I’m sure Meghan will be blamed.

    • Brielle says:

      Are u seriously considering what will play well in the press?the same press who abused Meghan for 3 years and continuing to do so…and who continue to want him back (without his wife and his son) to be Cambridge’s third wheel? It seems like Philips’s funeral has erased every wrongdoing of the family and the press?His family(the queen,his father and his brother ) are the main complicit of the press…when all the women(white of course) of that family were pregnant,the press backed off and they didn’t do that for Meghan cause they didn’t want Archie….

    • Nilber says:

      I can attest to how hard the first birthday can be without someone. My Dad passed in January and my birthday was Saturday. It was horrible.

      As far as Harry goes, I think it will depend if he will be “allowed” to see his grandmother or not. There is no point in staying if he can not.

      • Jules says:

        Sorry about your father’s passing. My parents are elderly and even though I’m trying to brace myself for the inevitable, I can’t imagine how you feel.

        You’re correct about Harry being allowed to see his grandmother; he’s tried before and whoever’s in charge didn’t let him. I imagine they may try to stall again to keep him around a bit longer, but it didn’t work before and I doubt it’ll work now considering his wife and child are in the US and his unborn child is due soon.

      • Runaway says:

        Exactly, people forget that they’re not just royals they are also people and Harry especially knows what loss is like, if he can see his grandmother before he leaves i think that’s all that matters to him then he’ll go, even if it’s before her birthday.
        And I’m sorry for your loss. The birthdays, anniversaries, milestones do get easier. This year is the 5th without my dad.
        Best advice I’ve heard and I carry with me, the pain never ever goes away, but the burden of carrying it gets lighter as time goes on.
        My condolences to you.

      • Elizabeth Phillips says:

        I’m sorry, Nilber! I understand completely. My Mom passed in April 2006, and I completely fell apart on that Mother’s Day.

    • Doulton says:

      But also: this is not time to have birthday parties. As far as we know, Harry was not in the Windsor primary residence “bubble”. The Queen is more likely to follow her customary “Royal” birthday in June. Has Harry traditionally spent time with her on her birthday? Not that I’ve ever heard. He must be needing the immediate comfort of his wife and son now. I am sure that (for the moment) the Queen must be very exhausted.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Runaway, I don’t think he needs to stay for TQ’s birthday. I think he needs to spend some time with her before he leaves. That’s it. For security reasons, I seriously doubt we’ll know when he leaves. We may not know anything until he’s home again–I hope that’s the case, so he’ll be safe. The BM are working this hoping to get a crumb–not gonna happen.

      He doesn’t owe the Firm anything and he knows that. He loves his grandmother and will want what’s best for her. I really think she would rather spend time alone with him than to spend it with him and others for her birthday.

      • Feeshalori says:

        I’m hoping he can make it past her gatekeepers to accomplish that. If there’s any sign that they’re stringing him along and delaying him to extend his time in England, he’d better hop on the next plane out of there and back home.

  3. Digital Unicorn says:

    I can see him flying out on Thursday after TQs birthday – it also gives him more time to discuss things with his father to try and work on their relationship F2F.

    Interestingly the Fail has headlines about how Chuck and Cain are going to slim down the number of working royals – notice how Cain is now involved in something that Chuck has been wanting to do for years. We are going to see more of these kinds of headlines where Cain is going to try and take credit for his fathers work and ideas.

    • Lizzie says:

      I read that too. How does that square with all the moaning in the fail that everyone is overworked since Harry and Meghan left? Top ceo was crying in Tatler that she wouldn’t be able to do school runs.

    • Belli says:

      I saw that on Twitter and they have a real generational staffing problem.

      They have Charles (72), Camilla (73), Anne (70), Edward (57) and Sophie (56 ). Assuming Andrew doesn’t sneak his way back.

      Then in the next generation they now only have William and Kate, which they’re probably happy about but is going to cause some workload problems.

      William was in his 30s before being expected to pick up royal work. Something tells me his children won’t get to enjoy the same.

      • equality says:

        The bigger problem is that the oldest ones do the most of the work. A few of the Queen’s cousins have a few patronages and do a few of the ribbon-cutting things. Since the article is in the Daily Mail it is probably fiction anyway but Will’s version will probably be to drop anything but the big attention-getters.

      • Belli says:

        Very good point that I forgot to mention. It would be bad enough if the Cambridges had a good work ethic, but when they do fewer engagements together than Anne does on her own…

        I suspect the minor royals will get to keep their patronages until they pass, but the slimmed down monarchy means there won’t be any more handed out apart from to the select few.

        But this seems to be paving the way for William to lower the public’s expectations and try and make them accept less work from the royals in the future.

      • Sofia says:

        Right now, the working royals are: HM (94 going onto 95), Charles (72), Camilla (73), William (38), Kate (39), Anne (70), Edward (57), Sophie (56), Duke of Kent (85), Duke of Gloucester (76), Duchess of Gloucester (74) and Princess Alexandra (84). That 12 people. 8 of them are literally senior citizens. In 20 years time, the Duke of Kent, the Queen and his sister Alexandra will be dead. That leaves 9. Of that 9, 5 are going to be in their 90s. And 2 are going to be in their mid 70s. Not everyone is going to live to see 99 like Philip so there could be deaths before they hit 90 or die in their early 90s. But the Cambridge kids will be 28, 26 and 23 so they may not even be working royals by that time.

        My point is, the Cambridge kids may need to start working sooner than their parents expected because in 20 years time half the working royals left are going to be dead/dying – and it’s those royals who do the “bread and butter” engagements.

      • Becks1 says:

        I’m hoping we talk about this in a separate post because I find the story very intriguing. We all knew the “slimmed down” monarchy was in the works, but now its actually being said that it would mean the full time royals work less?

    • swirlmamad says:

      I am betting we haven’t heard anything about his return plans, because we know what happens when the courtiers get their messy mitts on anything to do with him and this family. I am sure he’s not going to leave without getting a proper audience with his grandmother. He may be planning to even speak with his father. If so, he’ll need a couple extra days post funeral craziness to do that.

      • Brielle says:

        Why does he need to talk to them? They weren’t there when he needed them(when his mother died and wife was abused by the media)…do he plan on returning ?they are not a close family and his father took back his security and gave his address to get him killed so what does he want to talk about…and how many times his father used him to clean his image?the drug thing and other scandals…are u forgetting all the abuse?I just don’t understand

      • swirlmamad says:

        Not forgetting anything. Note I didn’t say anything about speaking to William. And him “talking” to Charles is just a guess. But I do believe him when he says that he does not harbor any animosity against his grandmother, as he’s said time and again. Taking that into consideration it is not that crazy to think he’d stay 2 extra days to get some one-on-one time with HER. Multiple people have said this could very well be the last time he sees her and I’m sure that’s not lost on him.

      • Brielle says:

        He said when they went back in January 2020,he wanted to see her to talk to her and her private secretary said to his private secretary that she was busy all week and he called her and she said that…she is not the kind of grandmother we think she is:Harry before Meghan and after his mother died was abandoned,nobody nurtured him event the RR said that they are not a close family

      • ShazBot says:

        Also, it would be a MAJOR security issue if everyone knew his travel plans. That is clearly the reasoning behind nobody knowing.

  4. Eleonor says:

    If he leaves past the Queen birthday it would be perfectly reasonable.
    That’s all I have.

    • Myra says:

      People have too many expectations on other people’s lives. He is a grown man. He can do what he wants. Stay a few days, leave right away – his choice either way. I’m sure he and his wife are on the same page.

  5. Smices says:

    I doubt he’s staying. Because of Covid he probably can’t actually see her.

    • Courtney B says:

      She’s vaccinated and if he has a negative test to be safe he could probably visit.

    • Ines says:

      And he can certainly see her outside. Different households are allowed to meet outside.

    • Kay says:

      While I appreciate them publicly following covid restrictions, the queen is vaccinated and I would be SHOCKED if the others weren’t as well. Even Harry. I know of plenty of people his age who were able to get their first shot 6+ weeks ago in California by calling around for extra doses, so I’m sure that people with connections/staff were also able to do so easily (and I’m not accusing them of line jumping…with extra doses going to waste at the end of each clinic, it’s crucial that they be used, even by those who aren’t high risk!). In that case, it’d be silly for them NOT to see each other.

      I also think it’s important to remember that, all of our speculation aside, Harry has said repeatedly that he adores his grandmother and that she has been nothing but supportive. If that’s the case, of course he should stay an extra couple of days for her birthday. Meghan is a big girl, and she’s not due quite yet, she’ll be fine for a few days (and, based on her own words/recollections, is probably thrilled that he gets the chance to see someone that she also publicly speaks quite highly of).

      • Brielle says:

        So when exactly was se supportive?when he came back in January and wanted to talk with her about sussexit and she said that she was busy all week?or was it when Meghan was abused in the press and she didn’t say anything cause it helped Andrew?she did help Sophie when she made that mistake with the sheikh and called the queen a cow but hey Sophie is white so…and she also intervened and told the press to back off when Diana was still married to Charles…why Meghan is a big girl but the queen with all her courtiers and servants and her heirs need Harry?Meghan is pregnant and need her husband and by the way still abused and smeared in the British press…

      • MsIam says:

        Harry is staying a few minutes away from Windsor Castle, he can see her before he leaves quite easily. No need to stay for the actual birthday. If he stays longer then its due to COVID requirements.

      • Kay says:

        It won’t let me reply to you directly Brielle, but I am going off of what Harry and Meghan themselves have said. I believe them. I watched the interview, and I’m not in the habit of questioning people/doubting their honesty. Both Harry and Meghan have said repeatedly that they remain close to the Queen and Philip. That TQ and Philip were supportive. That they continued to have a close, supportive relationship with regular communication. By “Meghan is a big girl”, I mean “based on everything they’ve said, they adore the Queen and Meghan can handle an extra 48-72 hours alone while Harry gets to spend a monumental milestone birthday with his self-proclaimed loving, supporting grandmother”.

  6. cassandra says:

    I haven’t done any traveling for a year (quietly sobs), but he probably has to procure a negative covid test to go back, right? Getting tested or quarantining after going to a gathering with people who regularly don’t wear masks at other public events is probably in his best interest before heading home.

    • Zaya says:

      He has to have a negative COVID test no more than three days before his flight departs for the US. If he’s vaccinated, he won’t have to quarantine when he gets back.

    • Bros says:

      A negative covid test within 72 hours for return to US, and no quarantine required whether he is vaccinated or not. It’s recommended but not required.

    • L4frimaire says:

      This actually makes sense. His plans are now private and we still have a pandemic so he needs to get tested again before traveling. Want to have a negative test, especially with a pregnant wife and toddler. Him seeing the Queen is really up to the people around her, not necessarily Harry or the Queen herself.

  7. Snuffles says:

    I don’t think his people tend to announce his travel plans. He could be back home for all we know.

    • Thirtynine says:

      I think this, too. We will just hear when he is already home. He is pretty wily with his travel plans when he needs to be. One step ahead all the time. I don’t think he’ll hang around. Plenty of other rellies to see the Queen on her birthday -Harry has other commitments.

  8. Heather says:

    Who knows? I think Harry is very sensitive and might just stay thru Wednesday for the Queen. He adores her and given her age, it could very well be the last time he sees her.

    I do hope he and his father and brother are at least talking. I know the royal family is problematic but it would be better for everyone if they were all at peace and this drama was behind them. Of course, the press will still be making up shit because they have to make that $$$, but I hope for their sake they all find some common ground. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • Haylie says:

      If they are still actively abusing Meghan and Archie (hint: they are), then there shouldn’t be any peace.

      • Mia says:

        Agree how can there be peace when his wife continues to be smeared. To each his own but it couldn’t be me.

      • Doulton says:

        I know! Yes, they are and it’s horrendous. The Oprah interview was a great opportunity–even a cue– for the Royals to come clean, to apologize, to make amends, to accept and to claim their blame. The Commonwealth would have loved it. They could have offered many opportunities for the Sussex couple to work on behalf of the family. Their collective denial of racism is what is likely to kill the family for good. I was very much hoping that they would step up.

    • Soupie says:

      That’s a nice thought @Heather but after everything that’s gone on, and there’s a lot we don’t know about (and it’s probably way worse stuff), putting all this behind them is not possible. First there would have to be apologies all around (won’t happen) and second the shi–’s got to stop (won’t happen). So putting it all behind them is not realistic.

      I’m torn about “the walk” yesterday. At first I saw it as a nice gesture, then I thought “compassionately staged” then after reading here I began to think more about not so compassionately staged but “self-serving” on the part of the Cambridges. I’m leaning toward all of them agreeing to provide the positive money shot to change the media narrative.

      Can you imagine how humiliated W must feel after that mess from Wooten? Still cringing about that. Would be difficult to stay smug after that mess.

      • Brielle says:

        @soupie@haylie totally agree with you…I just don’t understand ppl saying (I hope they talk and they are at peace) but ppl are conveniently forgetting that Meghan was suicidal during her pregnancy because a smear campaign by the press with collusion started by either KP or Ch or BP…black or biracial women are really not protected…

      • Soupie says:

        Yes, I can understand why some people think Harry shouldn’t have shown his absolute displeasure (putting it mildly) at the CW event. But we got to see the result of all the b.s. that was going on. It would be more difficult to believe H&M (not that I ever doubted them). There are body language experts out there, and tarot readers driving the narrative that it’s all a narcissistic game that H&M are playing. No. We who have been through this garbage ourselves with family and even those who haven’t, see what’s really going on. I was glad that Harry looked ready to deck someone at the CW, and showed it. And there was Meghan, being a class act through it all. Not a one of the “others” were doing that.

    • Emmitt says:

      But the drama isn’t because he left, the drama is because his father and brother abused him, his wife and had plans to abuse his son. THAT’s the drama. Until Charles, William and their teams stop the abuse, the drama will continue.

  9. Ginger says:

    He could be home for all we know. I don’t see him confirming when he would arrive. I do like that they have no idea when he will leave. I think it’s more for safely reasons.

    • booboocita says:

      And isn’t that how H&M operate, anyways? We don’t hear about their PLANS — we hear about their activities once they’re done and/or accomplished. We’ll probably hear that Harry’s back in Montecito two days after he’s arrived.

  10. Sofia says:

    I don’t think we’ll be told when he goes (or maybe it’ll be leaked by courtiers). We’ll probably get told that he’s arrived and quarantining back in CA.

    I’m sure some people, including fans, will take the lack of news that Harry has flown back as a negative towards Meghan.

    • Soupie says:

      @Sofia your comment made me think how resentful certain courtiers must feel that they weren’t invited to the funeral, pandemic notwithstanding. I wish we knew the real stories for the past several (6?) decades, waaaay beyond The Crown narrative.

  11. Courtney B says:

    Harry will do what he wants to do and I’m pretty sure he and Meghan had some premade plans. If things were going decently, maybe stay for his grandma. If they were just ugh then head right back. Or maybe the Queen will say she’s good and to head home to his wife and son. Or he’ll figure he’s already there so take advantage for some face time and see how things go. At least see his grandmother because it may be the last time in person. But none of us know. Whatever it is, Harry and Meg on the same page. Plus if he stays longer and appearances are good, like after the service, there’s wiggle room for the Diana statue. He can either go because the first meeting is done and he knows it won’t be a complete cluster*** or he can stay home and say ‘well I was just there and obviously there’s no drama so that’s not why I’m skipping.’ Even if it is.

    • Jais says:

      Agree Courtney B that they are on the same page. Everything Meghan and Harry did this year was together and united so trust that they know their plans and what’s best.

    • Rita says:

      Why do people say it may be the last time he will see the Queen the queen is not or dieing it’s his choice to make regardless of what one feels on his behalf on this platform.

      • Shadeau says:

        @Rita, No, the Queen does not appear to be in ill health but the lady is 95 and just lost her husband of 70+ years. Any time Harry sees her could be the last time.

  12. whateveryousay says:

    I don’t know why this has become a thing. I saw some gross comments on Twitter about Meghan on Saturday with people blaming her for the rift and saying that Harry isn’t going to go back to the States and she’s going to have fake an episode to get him to return.

    And then I saw some Sussex fans doing this thing where they are livid that Harry was civil to his family. Like what? It’s a funeral. Did you want guns at dawn or something?

    • Haylie says:

      Honestly, it’s become a thing because the royal family and the British press have been selling the message that Meghan caused the rift for years now. And they are still doing it as I type this.

      • whateveryousay says:

        Yes, but that’s Charles and William who have done that. Why is anyone expecting Harry to be rude to people and act as if he hates Meghan now if he doesn’t fly back right away?

      • equality says:

        People who are miserable in their own lives, think miserable things for other people. Hopefully if he stays and talks to family members some of them will issue a public retraction of some of the garbage spread about them but are any of the royals brave enough to contradict the media if it’s not in their own self-service?

      • Haylie says:

        Because that message that Charles and Will have allowed to dominate tabloid media is what Meghan haters have been running with all over the internet. As soon as the money shot happened, that got them engorged with hate based glee.

        I didn’t expect Harry to be inappropriate during a funeral for his grandfather, but let’s not act like it’s a mystery why various squads on both sides got the idea that if Harry stays past Phil’s body being lowered into the ground, then it spells trouble for the Sussex relationship. That’s the message the Senior royals want out there.

        It also distracts from the fact that the Cambridges who supposedly live together rode to the funeral in the same car all masked up.

  13. Becks1 says:

    I thought you couldn’t mix households in the UK, so could he even see her for tea or dinner if he wanted?

    My personal take on it is that Harry isn’t going out of his way to spend time away from Meghan, but the difference between leaving Monday and leaving Wednesday isn’t that significant.

    • bub244 says:

      As of last Monday, we in the UK can now meet outside in groups of up to 6, from a maximum of 2 households. So technically it would be allowed.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        There was a heck of a LOT more than that “mingling” outside after Phil’s funeral, maskless, which leads me to think they’ve ALL been vaccinated prior to the funeral.

        I wouldn’t be surprised if Harry managed to get his shots when Phil went for his heart surgery, knowing it was just a matter of (a short span) of time before he’d need to go back for a funeral. I know quite a few who did get theirs even before their age group was “allowed”.

      • Becks1 says:

        Okay thanks bub244 for the info, so it seems like technically he could meet with Charles or the Queen outside or something.

  14. Mia4s says:

    I kind of love that no one knows? Gee it is almost like the leaks spreading his personal business were indeed coming from “inside the house”.

    All of those plans sound perfectly reasonable. If he goes he’s certainly had time to speak with his grandmother if it was going to happen and if he stays a few days, I mean, Meghan’s only about six months along and healthy. Either way is fine. But I’m sure the British “media” will find some way to make up drama. 🙄

  15. Over it says:

    I think he is staying there for a few more days.

  16. Cecilia says:

    For safety reasons I understand why they haven’t said anything

  17. Chelsea says:

    If the Queen was a normal grandmother i could maybe see him staying a couple more days for her birthday but she doesnt seem the type to even have a small birthday gathering. Does she ever actually do anything on her actual birthday? I remember in 2020 they all went to church together on her birthday, which was coincidentally the day that the 2 Times stories about the Sussexes being exiled to “somewhere in Africa” came out, but there was no after church get together. Also: if he were planning to stay for a get together would he have not told her? Weird.

    I honestly don’t care if he leaves tomorrow or Wednesday because it’s just 2 days but the Squad has been insufferable the last few days and I don’t want to see how they’d act if he stayed 2 days more. Just wake me when he is safely away from Bitter Isle and back with his family in California so that i can pretend the last week and a half was a fever dream.

  18. aquarius64 says:

    Looks like the palace snitches are back at work but two conflicting stories. The Fail is hedging its bets. Also Page Six is claiming the peace talks were not peaceful.

  19. anotherlily says:

    He arrived in the UK on the 11th. He has to complete 10 days’ quarantine although the rules allow him to break quarantine to attend a funeral. So he will now be completing his 10 days and he will be eligible to fly back when he submits a negative test result. There are also provisions for ending quarantine early on the basis of negative tests. Since his 10 day quarantine period ends on the Queen’s birthday he may stay an extra day. OTOH he may havebeen cleared early and already be on his way home.

  20. Water Bearer 💧 says:

    All this speculation is very interesting. The royal rota and journalists close to the royals including Richard Kay haven’t got a clue. This episode just confirms what Harry and Meghan said that leaks are coming from the palace. Now they’ve left that toxic environment their business is locked down.

    Harry is a grown man and he’ll do what’s right for his family back in California.

  21. Kebbie says:

    I think the Mail is putting it out there that he’s staying for the Queen’s birthday to set up more stories for when he leaves before then.

    Like “Harry snubbed the Queen on her birthday” or “the Queen refused to see Harry on her birthday” or whatever. I doubt they expect him to stay until Wednesday, they’re just teeing up their next story.

    Maybe I’m wrong, it just feels like they’re directing their readers to the next ridiculous thing to be outraged about.

  22. Lanagen says:

    Who cares? Harry isn’t gonna be telling his plans to anyone who leaks it so who gaf?

  23. Plums says:

    honestly I could see him staying for a couple more days for the Queen or I could see him leaving as soon as all the official family obligations are done, but I would be shocked if he’s actually substantively speaking to either his father or his brother behind closed doors. He went before a global audience and read them as living and acting in terror of noncompliance with a tabloid press that owns them, all but explicitly named one or both of them as unforgivably racist, ascribed short-sighted, petty jealousy, outright accused his father of parental betrayal, and said they’re both trapped by this life.

    I mean, he may at some point in future come to a repaired personal relationship with his father if that’s something both parties want and work towards, but these people hold grudges and Harry burned the bridges that existed in a spectacular, public conflagration with the things he said in the Oprah interview. I very very much doubt they’ll ever forgive him. He may still have decent relationships with his extended family, but make no mistake, the Queen is the lynchpin holding the Windsor clan together in some semblance of a functional family right now (not Kate, which, LOL). When she goes, I can see everything falling to pieces and losing the pretense that Harry is welcome in any capacity.

    • ABritGuest says:

      From 2019 royal reporters said that William had dropped Harry like a ton of bricks & that’s why their office& foundation had split. They also reported that William refused to attend a friendly lunch with Harry during the Sandringham summit in 2020 & that Charles had distanced himself from Harry when the Sussexes had filed their lawsuits. Idea of bridges being burnt was there long before Oprah.

      I wonder if Harry is getting any updates on the bullying review whilst he’s in town ie from staff or if it’s strictly family/personal time not the unpleasant business of smears against his pregnant wife.

      They didn’t even know where exactly Harry was staying until like 2 days after he arrived when his spokesperson confirmed so I imagine his travel plans are under the lid. All this gossip about walks and peace talks compared to their lives in the US shows how much the palace leaks though.

    • CrazyHeCallsMe says:

      “but these people hold grudges and Harry burned the bridges that existed in a spectacular, public conflagration with the things he said in the Oprah interview. ”

      Those bridges were on fire long before the Oprah interview. Harry only shared his truth. The BRF and BM have been unhinged and directed nothing but racism and hate towards Meghan as well as Harry for the past four years. The BRF and BM want to conveniently dismiss and sweep under the rug all the pain and suffering they’ve caused H&M for 4 years and act as if it was the Oprah interview which lit the fuse.

  24. Amy Bee says:

    I just love that the media doesn’t know when he’s leaving or if he’s left already. It’s clear he’s not letting the Palace know about his whereabouts because it would be leaked to the press.

    • Alexandria says:

      Yes, I just love that we don’t know! And fans only want him safe. We don’t even demand to see Archie! We just want the family safe and thriving. The rota rats on the other hand…

  25. Louise177 says:

    Harry has a pregnant wife and a toddler at home. I seriously doubt his plans are up in the air. His leaving was probably discussed before going to the funeral. Whether it’s Wednesday or a week from now probably wasn’t decided on a whim. I doubt he’ll stay for QE birthday. There’s no reason to. Especially since there isn’t going to be a celebration.

  26. Queen Meghan’s Hand says:

    These competing stories mean that Harry hasn’t told his brother or father or anyone when he is leaving. Which means they’re not speaking beyond pleasantries.
    GOOD.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Ding ding ding!

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Yup. That’s all that needs to be said on this matter.

    • MsIam says:

      The press didn’t even know where Harry was staying at first, so nope he’s not telling them shi*t. He could be in the air right now for all we know and I hope he is. Besides, didn’t he and Meghan allegedly burn all their bridges? No need for him to stick around then, right?

  27. nicegirl says:

    I bet he is missing Meghan and Archie and is ready to be home. I’m wondering if he gets an audience w TQ also.

    • lucylee says:

      I can’t get over needing an appointment to see your grandmother.

      • Lady D says:

        Or a grandmother that requires one?

      • Kelly says:

        LucyLee, The British monarch has a heavily scheduled life. She does not only do public appearances. She has boat loads of reports and documents to read for her consultations with the Prime Minister and lots of internal meetings. Yeah, grandchildren need an appointment because the Queen isn’t only a grandmother.

  28. Oh says:

    It doesn’t matter when he will come back. They got what they wanted. Thanks Haz!

  29. ElleE says:

    Anyone else think that it is funny that this is the first time in history that Harry has not been under the protection of the Royal Protection force while in the UK (whatever it is called, the service that protected Harry all of his life but not his wife and son) and no one knows what his travel plans are?

    Wonder how his new (hopefully all
    mixed race) private security team interacted with his old team? Hope they ignored them. The SNL skits write themselves.

  30. KW says:

    my guess … I hope Harry said to them “I’ll meet you in the garden in an hour …” and was already on the way to the airport home. Nobody deserves his compassion and they don’t deserve his time. This family tells on itself every damn Daily Mail day.

  31. MerryGirl says:

    Harry really is the jewel of the crown the way his every move is speculated on. No one else in the RF (except his wife) gets that level of attention and I believe they are secretly hoping he doesn’t leave soon. As I said, the jewel of the crown and boy does he look good.

  32. Liz version 700 says:

    Harry owned the attention from the moment he stepped onto British soil whether he wanted to or not. He will leave and it will be a family of snooty milk toast again. This shows so much what they lost when they terrorized him into fleeing to save his family. It must have baffled Charles to see that kind of heroics. Charles is too much of a Coward to lift a finger to protect anyone in his family. Lord he proved that with his son. William is to selfish to be bothered to protect his family or even look at his wife. Harry married up and has been the hero his family needed. Now he and Meghan can continue to outshine this messy bunch without even trying. I wonder if he will need a week of therapy to get over the frustration of this bunch seriously.

  33. Div says:

    I mean, the difference between leaving Monday or Wednesday isn’t much. I could see it going either way.

  34. Huh? says:

    Most likely a lie, but If Harry is so eager to spend time with his family who treated his wife like shit and put their lives in danger leaving them with no form of security, after a 2hr chat,I say why only the Queens birthday? he should stay for the Cambridges anniversary as well, why rush home. They used him already for the PR stories and clicks, but If a possible 2hr chat and apology makes all that forgotten,then more power to him.

    • Oh says:

      I agree, they got what they wanted. He should also stay for Charlotte’s birthday in May and Bulliam’s birthday in June. Ohh and don’t forget the Diana statue and George’s birthday in July. After all they are his “lovely” family lol. It doesn’t matter that his wife is heavily pregnant and his son’s birthday is the next month.

      • Huh? says:

        Mind u this is the same grandmother who stripped him of military titles, not her nonce son, denied his wreath at the Cenotaph,the same grandmother who informed recollections may vary,the same grandmother who sat back and watched his whole family get abused without stepping in when she could’ve. I understand his respect for her,but letting himself be used for tabloid fodder because the world is watching just shows that every time they go back to the UK they will be used by the family for good PR and when his kids grow up they’ll be used the same. This is all speculation of course but if this time spent with his family has caused him to want to stay longer,then I hope he has an enjoyable stay over there.

  35. Ali says:

    They only knew about him arriving because an airline worker at Heathrow tweeted about it. His own team only confirmed it after he was already in the UK for more than a day. I doubt they will say anything this time.

  36. NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

    It’s all too clear that Harry can speak with his grandmother over Zoom. I see no reason for him to stay for her birthday. He can talk to her on Wed. I think Harry left late Saturday and is already back in quarantine in CA.

  37. JanetDR says:

    I have very little to add to any story today, but can’t wait to know that Harry is back home!

  38. Julia K says:

    The Queen may not even want to see him. She froze him out once before and disinvited him for dinner after Megxit talks. After all she has been through perhaps she doesn’t give a flying fig about her birthday.

  39. Gabby says:

    I wonder if this is H throwing off the press? They all thought he would catch a private plane out of Santa Barbara to head to the UK, when he instead took BA out of LAX. Now the press is probably camped out at Heathrow and LAX waiting to catch him. I hope he gets a private plane out of a secondary airport in the UK to someplace like Burbank, and he will arrive home in relative obscurity before he is confirmed to be out of the UK.

  40. Monica says:

    I won’t exhale until he’s home with Meghan, Archie and the Chick-Inn.

  41. Clarice says:

    If it were me and I had the choice to not have to rush back home for work, I’d stay for the birthday. I was lucky enough to be able to visit my Grandpa in February for his 100th birthday. He died four days later. He lived in Florida, I live in Chicago. Much easier than getting from California to England.