On Thursday, Buckingham Palace released the arrangements for Prince Philip’s funeral procession, and the palace took pains to emphasize that Prince William and Prince Harry would not be walking shoulder-to-shoulder, which was the much-hyped PR around Harry’s return to the UK. Peter Phillips ended up walking in between the brothers, but photographers still got their money shots and hell, William and Harry even spoke to each other following the funeral. As I said on Friday, using Peter as a buffer came across, to me, like a compromise that William forced on the palace. As in, there was a bald tantrum from He Who Is Engorged With Rage and instead of making things easier for his widowed grandmother, William’s tantrum forced the palace and the Queen to make special accommodations for him. That was my assumption. The Mail on Sunday says that I was right. They also say the Windsors treated Harry like dog sh-t.
The Bald Tantrum: Prince William asked for Peter Phillips to stand between him and Harry during Prince Philip’s funeral procession yesterday, it has been claimed. The brothers were separated by Princess Anne’s son as they walked behind the Duke of Edinburgh’s coffin while it made its way to St George’s Chapel in Windsor yesterday afternoon.
The Frostiness: Sources have now told The Mail on Sunday that Harry has experienced ‘a great deal of frostiness’ from many of his relatives since arriving in Britain a week ago and self- isolating at Frogmore Cottage, the house given to him and Meghan as a wedding present by the Queen. Princess Anne, Prince Edward and his wife Sophie failed to acknowledge Harry before or during yesterday’s service, it was claimed.
Harry the Outsider: ‘Ironically the only one who has expressed any sympathy towards him is Prince Andrew,’ said one source. ‘He knows from Sarah Ferguson – and now first-hand – how it feels to be the outsider, which Harry very much is. As far as the others are concerned, there is a deep sense of protection towards the Queen and resentment towards Harry. There is little sympathy for him after what he and Meghan said on Oprah. They are still very upset,’ the source added. ‘They are putting on a united front for the Queen. They all think he has behaved appallingly.’
William didn’t even look at Harry during the funeral: The siblings had maintained stony expressions yesterday as they walked behind their grandfather’s cortege, separated by Peter Phillips. The Duke of Cambridge strode ahead of his brother as they entered the 15th Century chapel, and once inside the atmosphere remained frosty. William sat with Kate directly opposite Harry but did not appear to make eye contact, instead preferring to focus his gaze towards his grandfather’s coffin.
Eugenie & Harry are still tight: Harry has spoken to his cousin Princess Eugenie who remains a steadfast friend. ‘He is thought to have seen Eugenie, most likely outside since she’s being strict with her new baby,’ said the insider.
Harry isn’t about the drama: According to one report, William requested that Peter Phillips stand between him and Harry during the funeral cortege. Asked about the claim, a friend of Harry said: ‘He’s just doing what he’s told and getting on with it.’
“There is little sympathy for him after what he and Meghan said on Oprah. They are still very upset.” These people are so f–king nasty, my God. I’m not going to relitigate this crap but how unhinged are these people to carry a grudge over Harry and Meghan telling their stories of how THEY were mistreated? They didn’t even talk sh-t about the Queen, they talked sh-t about the rest of the family, and truly, it was only the tip of the iceberg. Anyway, I’m glad these idiots showed their asses. I’m glad Harry showed up for his grandfather, showed he was the bigger man and everyone in his family reminded him of just why he got the hell away. As for Willileaks and his tantrums… I can’t believe that’s not a bigger story. William was fully dictating to his grandmother THE QUEEN about what he would and would not do for her husband’s funeral. How small. How petty. How selfish.
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Let this be a lesson to Kate on how Wills is, but as I write this I am sure Kate knows what a heartless, cold hearted, self centered mule her husband is. What a prize!
She knows, she doesn’t care. Probably because she’s just as heartless
Yup. She’s just as trash as her husband.
Kate knows. He dumped her 3 times and proposed to two other women before her. She is a doormat with a very ambitious mother and a vindictive and mean streak. They are very well suited.
and that vindictiveness is, IMO, why she hates Meghan so much. In her eyes, Meghan “stole” Harry away from her. I mean, obv she’s married to Baldy but all the pics of her joking and laughing with Harry?…that’s who she LIKES and whose company she actually enjoys. She had both princes and HATES that now she only has the lame one. Add to that what you pointed out…”Waity” Katie, waiting around for the proposal, knowing she wasn’t first choice, and Harry being absolutely smitten with and devoted to Megan. the difference in how their husbands view and treat their respective wives is significant.
yeah, he’ll be King one day, but she’s going to suffer for it. the protocols, the “look the other way on mistresses”, etc…she’s got her gilded cage, now she has to live in it.
@Elizabeth – two others? Jecca and…
The other two were Jecca Craig and Isabella Calthorpe.
I don’t think he proposed to them though because I don’t think either of them were interested enough to date him let alone give him that encouragement, despite how obsessed he was with Isabella and how obsessed he seems to remain with Jecca.
Same sentiment though. If either had said yes, Kate would be long gone.
this is neither here nor there but I always found the insistence that she be addressed as “Catherine” by journalists and the public at large after they got married, because it’s more refined for a duchess who’ll be queen consort some day or whatever, to be subtly abusive. It’s not like “Kate” is a private intimate nickname that is reserved for the family and close friends like “Bertie” or “Lilibet” was. It is her name. I mean, I know Catherine was always her legal name, but she went through life being Kate to literally everyone in her life, and 10 years as a public figure as William’s on and off girlfriend as Kate. It’s like, she couldn’t even keep something so basic and intrinsic to her identity in the bargain she made in marrying William because it wasn’t good enough, and it always felt meanspirited to me.
Isabella Calthorpe only used William to make Sam Branson jealous. And Will was also interested in Meghann Gunderman … who also wasn’t the slightest bit interested. He WAS interested in Jecca though, who didn’t want any part of royal life. Smart girl. Kate would just not go away.
@kellybelle-
Very Interesting. 🧐🧐
I’ve always been wary of the Calthrope/Bonas clan & their claims, cause they were trying so hard to happen per our tabloids, and royal romance-links was what kept them relevant.
Isabella went to HW, guns blazing and flopped, so just as well she became a society wife.
Who’s Meghann Gunderman?
Not a fan of William and Kate but there’s no proof he proposed to two other women…
@Jegede: She is a Texas oil heiress he was interested in and bewildered that she wouldn’t date him. She looks similar to Jecca Craig.
@WHATWHAT: You have perfectly summarized the Karen plight and delights.
@Plums: Agreed. I always thought W’s insistence that Kate be called “Catherine” was such a clear-cut example of how he thinks she just isn’t good enough, period. She was Kate her whole life — what in the “Pygmalion” heck is up with changing her name to something more “refined”? Coupled with the way he can’t even be in her presence without grimacing every time she opens her mouth…..he wants her to be something different from what she is so badly and it shows.
Wasn’t it reported at one time that Will and Jecca had a “pretend engagement”? Like WTH does that even mean? I think it may have been in his early 20s.
Kate is cut from the same cloth as him.
Agree. All this narrative about Kate being subject to her husband’s whims or has to be careful because he might dump her are all BS. They are in this 100% and the rest is just jockeying for who can look more saintly in the press. They both wanted Meghan gone and were very much involved in the smears and leaks against her. They both didn’t take Harry into account, not because they don’t recognize a love match or whatever, but because they thought Harry’s subordination to them would outweigh his loyalty and defense of his wife. Kate and William are two peas in a rotten pod and they will be fine, and supported with very little consequence for how they are because they keep up the optics. There will be grumbling of their shadiness and hypocrisy, but it seems they are changing the conversation and using this situation to their advantage. There isn’t one decent bone between the two of them but two very massive insecure egos.
If Wills truly is the rage monster that people assume he is, then Kate probably is in an emotionally abusive relationship.
Counterpoint: Kate is also emotionally abusive.
This, Haylie. Kate and William are the same.
I agree with all three of you, it’s quite a toxic relationship, although privately I would be more afraid of William than Kate. I really feel for their children.
Is she though? Agree with Haylie on this one.
All they do is reinforce to Harry that he made the right decision to leave.
I think he fully expected to be frozen out, went for his grandfather, not the rest of the family, and is looking forward to returning home.
I love that they keep proving the Sussexes right. These leaks will be the undoing of the RF as there is no rhyme or reason to them with different factions briefing against each other.
yeah, all of this.
he did the right thing, acted appropriately and (as noted in the write up) let the rest of them show their asses.
“he just acted so appallingly by telling the world how trashy we really are. I mean, the NERVE.” and then they go on to show everyone how trashy they are.
These people were similarly appalled and offended by Diana telling how she was mistreated by the very same people that mistreated her son and his wife. They are never going to change, they are never going to do some soul-searching because they cast themselves as the perpetual victims, an attitude that is reinforced by their advisors and the British media.
They’ll never treat Harry and Meghan better – and eventually the Sussexes are going to be completely excluded from all public royal events, even those that include non-working members of the BRF. They’ll never forgive Harry doing the same thing that his mother did with her interview – telling their truths and lifting the veil of just how awful and abusive the Windsors really are. Especially William will probably freeze out his brother since William was reportedly very against and upset about his mother’s interview. I think it is VERY likely that they think that Harry betrayed them and not that they have ANY culpability in how things have played out.
William acts trashy because …
Somewhere someone pointed out that these people marry their cousins, live on public funds, have feuds, and drive Grandpa’s coffin in a pickup.
In the U.S., that’s a redneck family.
The BRF is determined to kill the messenger. They have no ability to self reflect.
@Tom that is so hysterical and TRUE!
@Tom, truer words have never been spoken.
Lol well done William and Daily Mail and bonus point for lumping Harry with Andrew. I’m sure now Harry and Meghan will attempt to reconcile and give you access. Wait for the phone to ring…just wait…anytime now…
“He Who Is Engorged With Rage”
😂 classic kaiser
‘bald tantrum’ is my favorite 🤣
Both were perfect. The engorged bald tantrum lol. So so true and so pitiful
I cackled with glee on that line. Love it
All the papers here in Blighty are legit contradicting themselves at this point.
The Scum says something else went down.
Anywhoo, the Windsors have felt the full blowback of letting emotions fester, while keeping a ‘Stiff Upper Lip’ till death through the years. Even inside the family.
I guess now it’s best everyone is upfront about their feelings.
Good luck for the next few days Haz.🙏
The contradictions are wild! What’s going on at the Palace? Is this just a natural outcome of different courts trying to put out different stories in what (they hope) will put them in a favorable light?
Harry cordially chatting to Won’t and Can’t actually makes THEM look good — so why would they then go and blow that up by saying how terrible Harry is and how they didn’t want to be around him? And if this is the case — that everyone was “frosty” with Harry and angry at he and Meghan’s “betrayal” (*eye roll*) — then who is putting out the stories about making peace and reconciling? Either you want nothing to do with him or you want to reconcile, so which is it?
Same as some of the other stories. One paper says Kate is the peacemaker and then another says Charles is the peacemaker. One paper says Harry’s leaving today another says he’s leaving after the Queen’s BDay. Then there’s another piece about how Charles is finally gonna go about “slimming down” the monarchy, but then mentions nothing about how, in fact, he intends to do this (e.g. cutting patronages, cutting working members, taking less funding) so you’re left with the idea that not much is gonna change. Is all of this just a “let’s throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks” exercise? And if so, who’s throwing what?
Anyway. Like you said, good luck to Harry.
I think it is a combination of the different households doing their own PR through unnamed sources and various publications making things up to further their own narratives. It is well-established that there is no coordinated PR effort between BH, CH and KP – that’s why we get conflicting narratives, they are trying to polish their own images individually (and possibly undermine other royal households).
Remember that video of the four RR pranked by a couple of young men, caught pre-recording an interview about Meghan and Harry’s Oprah interview, before it had even aired? Parts of this piece, especially the supposed frostiness, have that flavor to me, of being pre-written. But agree overall, the inconsistencies are likely a result of different palaces competing with each other to get their own narratives front and center.
Thanks for your comments @ArtHistorian and @Windyriver.
My question then is, when will they realise that this is not only not a good look but also detrimental to the life of the monarchy? For example, a company might have different departments but each department still works toward a singular, overarching, goal. Why has this company (the monarchy) allowed its various departments (BP, CH, and KP) to go off in such radically different directions? And who will tell them that they need to get their act together (it won’t be the crisis management folks who are starting in May, since each will work at a different royal court and most likely implement a different strategy).
I’m a Sussex supporter and am appalled at their treatment of Harry and (in particular) Meghan, but from an intellectual level, I’m also super fascinated at how they have allowed themselves to get into such institutional (and thus familial) disarray. It’s quite breathtaking, actually.
@Emile – that’s part of what has been so interesting about the messiness over the past few years, right? No one is in charge anymore and the competing courts are pushing out competing narratives and no one can pull them all onto the same page. It IS institutional disarray and I’m not sure there’s an end in sight.
@Emile – You said it all.
A clusterf00k of epic proportions. It’s enough to give u whiplash.😵
I don’t think they’ll ever realize just how much of a mess things are on the institutional lever UNLESS everything comes crashing down around them. These are people who are super-entitled, who are rather stupid and who are surrounded by sycophants. That’s never a good combo. The thing is that the British monarchy gets away with this kind of crap because the general public don’t really pay attention to them and because the political establishment has no interest in reining them in, especially now with a Tory government. The Windsors are constantly shielded from the consequences of their own idiocy – that’s why they won’t learn.
I honestly think a big part why the British monarchy is going to survive is because the political and social establishment has no interest in abolishing it + it would be a difficult, time-consuming and VERY expensive process to abolish the monarchy peacefully and democratically. Finally, while the British public in general seem to be apathetic about the monarchy nothing will change, they need to actively stop tolerating its excesses. In sum, the larger public need to stop believing in the monarchy (that it is necessary for the nation/their shared identity) for it to even come close to being abolished democratically.
To this date, no European monarchy has been abolished peacefully and democratically. If it happens, it won’t be the British one that falls but most likely the Spanish one. That’s the monarchy that is in REAL danger.
ArtHistorian, I think the Belgian one is wobbly too.
If Anne really did ignore Harry, then I’m going to give a second look to those claims that she was the one worried about a future baby’s skin color. I’m just saying, it’s telling if these people felt personally attacked by those accusations…
I think she could give a flip. She’s obviously wrecked over her father’s death and I don’t think Harry is on her mind.
It looked to me like Anne stopped walking, looked back to the entrance at nothing just to get behind the group. She was walking ahead but I think she wanted to be behind so she could see what was happening with the brothers. I could be wrong, maybe reading too much into her hanging back a bit.
@Ann – I noticed that too.👌
I’m guessing there was a deliberate effort by all to make sure Harry was NOT isolated. At least not in front of the world’s media.
This. While Anne is obviously devoted to her mother and her family and takes her duties VERY seriously, I’ve never felt like she’d channel that loyalty into Cambridge-level mean-girling. She strikes me as someone who loved her father very much and is grieving – not focusing on giving someone the cold shoulder. She strikes me as the sort of person who would be direct about it if she was upset with someone and then just get on with her life.
I’m not. Because nobody cares about Anne and the story came from a source with no credibility: Lady Colin Campbell.
Honestly, who even is this woman (Lady CC)? Like who does she think she is because here in the U.K , no one can give 2 sh*ts. I’ve never heard of her in my life
Agree. If it was said by Anne, it wouldn’t have the same impact or made it into the interview because she has no say in what titles are conveyed or matters of security. She needs to focus on cleaning up her sitting room which looks like a superfund site.
I mean it seems like throwing a tantrum and getting what he wants has been working for William so why stop now?
I’d love to see the queen or Charles truly and somehow publicly cut his ego down, just because it seems like he runs amuck all over the place.
Worst yet @ Jais, wait until he becomes king and all hell will break lose! The monarchy will certainly suffer greatly at the expense of a petulant man-child who runs his anger at full speed, non stop! If they don’t cut him at the knees now, the entire monarchy is in jeopardy and they only have themselves to thank for it. But of course, Charles will be gone by then and Baldimort will rule with an angry shaking fist while continuing his tantrums.
Good. Let’s get rid of them! If Ragemonster Willy is the catalyst for that I’m here for it.
He may not see the throne. I could see it all ending during Charles’s reign. Not because of Charles, but because the time has come for this monarchy to end.
Charles is meaner and tougher than his son plus he’s had years of practice. William’s undoing is to think that he can convince the monarchy that the line of succession should be skipped. Even if it were, he would find himself promoted way above his level of competence as he is all about the power and he is way too lazy to truly serve.
Charles is tougher but in no way is he meaner. William has a core narcissistic streak which makes him abusive, self-righteous, and arrogant. As does Kate.
*amok*
How much did tabs pay Peter philips not to walk in sync with the brothers? I know some people mentioned that Peter couldn’t keep pace cause he’s shorter than Will & Harry, but it’s not like he’s 3 feet tall, he could have kept up.
It’s also not like they were going that fast. they were part of a funeral procession and they were behind Philip’s adult children. I don’t think Andrew and Edward were sprinting to the chapel, you know?
I wondered about that, too! He was ALWAYS two steps behind, so any shot from either side would show H&W “side by side”. Wonder if any *real* journalist can do a forensic dive into his accounts and find the payout.
Peter accepted payment to advertise milk, so who knows?
Didn’t he also sell his wedding pics to a tab?
@Zaya: Peter was just doing what he was told.
It almost seemed like an order of precedence thing to me. Like, William and Harry are sons of the future king, so Peter Phillips stayed two steps behind.
Cassandra, that’s what I thought, too.
There’s nothing about order of precedence in the way people were walking in the cortege.
The messaging is confusing. Will is so mad that they can’t walk side by side, but he makes an effort to talk to him after the service. The were frosty to him but the article about the 3way meet up was almost sounding hopeful.
I was just saying this upthread. The messaging is all over the place.
I think it’s possible that grandma may have given both boys a talking to prior to the funeral procession. So he could have been throwing a tantrum days before but on the day itself, the queen may have insisted that they show a united front as the world is watching. As other commenters have pointed out upthread, there are three competing courts here and they rarely coordinate their PRs.
I can actually see the family being ticked at Harry – one of the rules of a toxic environment/family is that you don’t tell outsiders how toxic it is. He outed the royal family as being a very racist institution – I think most people sort of figured that was the case anyway, but now it’s out there. Of course most of them are probably unhappy with him.
It doesn’t mean they’re right and he’s wrong, it just adds another layer to the toxicity of the Firm.
If William did insist on Peter as a buffer, then I’m kind of laughing at Harry walking away from the service with him. It starts to read to me like – “you tried to avoid me but HERE I AM!!! Even your wife is staying a few steps behind so its just us now!!! No Peter Phillips anywhere to be found!!!”
That whole thing outside of the church was a middleton thing (obviously approved by KP) and harry threw her a bone.
As for the whole shoulder to shoulder thing…. they didn’t do that for diana’s funeral either so i don’t understand what the whole fuss is about. And im pretty sure that the windsors are upset at harry for airing their dirty laundry. But i still think that the oprah interview was the right thing to do
I don’t think Peter being in between them is that weird in itself, it was only when he kept slowing down so there was a money shot that it seemed weirder to me. Like, keep up Peter, don’t be so obvious.
Oh I def think the Oprah interview was the right thing to do, but toxic people don’t like their toxicity made public, so I am not surprised there are some bad feelings.
@Becks1 do you think that it was maybe the plan all along? BP gives the press order to write about peter being in between to hype up the funeral? So that more people would tune in. I wouldn’t exactly put it above them
If Peter wasn’t walking with William and Harry, where else would he have been? He’s the oldest grandchild, but wasn’t likely to be walking alone, or in front of Will, was he? And Will wasn’t likely to be walking alone either, in front of Peter and Harry (or he would have been).
So, apart from the question of why Peter slowed down, what other placement options were there?
Harry wasn’t throwing anyone a bone, especially the SIL who deliberately fed lies to the press about Harry’s wife. What Harry did was show both W&K that they don’t matter. That he can be the only mature person on the scene, make chitchat, and never be bothered by those two abusers again.
I can also understand why they would be ticked off at him, even if the racism wasn’t mentioned. He “let the side down” — which is something that always pisses off establishments like the RF/artistocracy, even if they were (and are) the ones in the wrong.
Yes, they’re following the “don’t rock the boat” approach. The queen is said to bury her head in the sand and avoid conflicts, but it seems the rest of the family is like that as well. This eould have been a great opportunity to do some spring cleaning of staff, but if they really did that, the press would have a field day telling about who of the royals sent their men/women to leak stories about other royals. It’s like Harry said, they’re trapped.
Agree with y’all about members of the family prob being unhappy bout the interview in that no one likes to be called out for the truth, even though they all knew the truth and should’ve done something.
But also, I’m wondering about who this article is from? It seems like this sourcing is coming from William’s camp so he prob wants Harry to look like the outsider that the family is freezing out. They could be freezing him out for sure or some of them at least but it also seems like part of this storyline of Harry being iced out.
They have the nerve to call Harry a traitor when Harry was betrayed by his family and his family caused all that drama while not giving a damn about their queen or their monarchy.
And this proves that this talk between William and Harry was staged. But I have the feeling that this staging is more likely coming from Kate.
They are all a bunch of small, selfish people that care only about themselves. Willileaks and Kate the peacemaker deserve each other. They’ve gathered the worst into one family.
So Kate’s little running around in her heels like the funeral after-party hostess is a complete and total sham performance. She knew that her husband didn’t want a reconciliation if he demanded a buffer between him and Harry. I don’t think Will wanted anything to do with that walk up the hill pap performance; he would have jumped over that wall to get away from Harry if it wasn’t 20 feet high.
The mean girl in me thinks Harry could shinny up and over that wall in a hurry, whereas Willie would need a helmet and 6 spotters giving him a boost.
My retired military hubby was very impressed with Harry’s rope climb on Corden given he didn’t use his feet to help. William is fit enough from what we’ve seen at polo matches but I don’t think he’d come close to being able to do it.
How small. How petty. How self. How very Will.
Exactly this. Will is such an abusive person. I feel so sorry got those Cambridge kids.
Not a surprise that people didn’t speak before the funeral. Did they really have time? And during the funeral, why would they be eyeing each other across the church? After the funeral in public Harry was talking to a few people. Unless the media was at their private reception, how would they know or would they tell the truth if they did know who spoke? Andrew probably is okay with the interview since he didn’t get mentioned and Eugenie and Fergie only got mentioned positively. Charles got most of the negative and that was mild. I thought Edward was actually a decent person since he spoke at the Commonwealth Service but maybe he’s a jerk also.
I bet Harry can’t wait to get back to freedom. Away from all those protocols and restrictions
There’s something fishy about this? As much as I can’t stand Baldmort and the self proclaimed Karen of Kensington hasn’t Harry been in quarantine since he got there? How would anyone get the chance to even be frosty? This sounds almost like Andrew having had his comeback derailed is now trying a new tactic defending his poor nephew from the family!
Or… Charles taking over more of queenie’s responsibilities, including finances, and worried about your monthly cheddar. Always thought pushing Eugenie and Harry’s friendship somehow fit well for Fergie and Andrew. These people know about self preservation.
To me it sounded as if the source was close to Andrew. I mean, the only ones that come in a good light are him and his daughter.
H&M didn’t say one negative word about the queen, quite the opposite. Why do the family havd to shield her from a positive story from her grandson and grand daughter in-law? The ones they were most critical of was the BM and the courtiers. The same courtiers who now runs to the media about what happened AFTER the funeral when the cameras were turned off. They are doing it on their “masters” orders, but the general british public aren’t suppose to know that. As “leaders” of a big firm all the senior royals should be concerned about all the shit their employees are pulling, and how they breach their NDAs and run to the press with stories about “the leaders” private life. They should’ve been horrified when they heard what’s been going on, and how Meghan was treated, but no, they blame the victim instead. It’s a good sign they already knew, and they are angry because someone on the inside snitched on them.
For someone as narcissistic as William it must really dtive him up the wall that Harry won’t let him get under his skin anymore. People like him thrive on making others feel less than and making them angry. When their victim refuses to engage and ignores their hysterics it drives them mad. Poordat
This is what I saw in Harry chitchatting with the abusers (W&K) after the funeral. He was showing them they don’t matter enough to get upset about.
I said that on twitter – to me, it’s a sign that Harry has moved on. When someone no longer has the power to hurt you, you are able to interact with them differently than when they had that power. Harry has cut emotional ties with his brother IMO so he is able to chit chat with him as they walk away because he doesn’t care at this point.
The Middletons don’t need to try to make Kate bigger as long as William continues to make himself smaller. Harry is a man, by which I mean, he’s an adult. The contrast makes it obvious.
I really thought that Edward and Sophie had no car in this race, well. silly me.
Edward could have used those few minutes of civility to Harry and Meghan at the Commonwealth as positive press until the wheels came off, but alas, here we are.
I’ll bet Edward caught hell from Baldilocks after the CW service last year. It’s like the Tom Bradby thing — “if you openly treat Harry (and Meghan) well, I’ll cut you. And I’ll be your king one day soon.”
I wonder if that was why we were getting all this press and interviews with Sophie, but nothing about Edward this past year. Anyway, it’s Charles mess to handle, and he won’t .
I thought they were fine. It’s only the press who’s hyper focused on Harry. The other members are dealing with their own grief. And with the Wessexes that means two children. And Louise was apparently quite close to Philip and shares his love of carriage driving. In addition to Edward being very close to his father and Sophie to the Queen. They’ve other concerns than his nephew. I wonder if William and Harry’s bad memories of their mother’s funeral was why James didn’t walk. They could’ve done Peter and William then Harry with James.
@Tiffany Sophie knows where her bread is buttered. She made sure she’s TQs fav, kidsaare favs, as they are dependent. She’s been ingratiating herself with Kate for aages
This is ridiculous. Tbh, who cares if Anne & Edward are upset with Harry? He’s a grown man. He and his wife were abused and harassed to the point his wife had suicidal thoughts. If they can’t understand why he fought back, ie told the truth, that’s on them. When the consistent, toxic gaze of the tabs is directed towards their kids, let’s see how they react.
Anyway…William continues to be the worst. He is incapable of self-reflection. Being unable to put aside his anger towards Harry at their grandfather’s funeral isn’t a sign of strength, it’s a sign of narcissism. He has to center everything around himself. This was a moment to honor his grandfather and support his grandmother and father, and he couldn’t do it. It must have really pissed him off when Harry didn’t respond in kind to his hostilities. To know that Harry truly didn’t care what any of them did or said must have been a shock.
Yes to all of this! This is another ugly look for the Royals. It is terrible that William wields such power because his lack of self-awareness will continue to chip away at the family’s brand.
The Fail truly just makes stuff up, though. And even when they don’t, their interpretation is just nonsensical. The brothers had “stony” expressions? Well, they were walking behind their grandfather’s coffin, in front of a television audience, so perhaps that’s understandable. The atmosphere in the church was “frosty”? It was a funeral! Were they supposed to be waving to each other across the aisle?
Also, William may well have asked for Peter to walk between them but equally, Peter was also Philip’s grandson (and is the same generation) so logically it makes sense: the four children: Charles and Anne, Andrew and Edward, then the three eldest grandsons: William, Peter and Harry.
I agree. It was a funeral. Philip’s children were clearly grieving. Why on earth would their focus be on Harry? That’s what the media is focused on, not the family. While I can believe some in the family aren’t thrilled about Harry moving, doing the interview, etc, throwing Philip’s children & Harry under the bus reeks of KP/Middleton involvement. After all, we saw the planned campaign of “Kate the peacemaker” & Harry talking to William & Kate (clutches flashy pearls).
I continue to think that Harry is separated from the Firm, but closer with the family, whereas Will & Kate are the opposite.
Lizzie Bathory, I don’t know that anyone couldn’t be focused on Harry, since that was where the BM’s focus was. I agree that Harry is probably closer to some of his cousins (on his Mother’s side, too), but has always been cordial with the majority of them. I can’t decide why the Firm believes letting the world know that they have frozen Harry out is a positive? Or maybe it is coming across in a positive way in the UK, but not the world? This is really confusing, because it’s the opposite of what Kant is trying to sell. I think W needs to be careful, because Kant has decided to go full out on her own PR. Charles should shut down the Mids, because if he doesn’t soon they are going to cause some huge problems that he will have to deal with. This isn’t just a disfunctional family, it’s a disfunctional Firm. In the real world, they would have gone out of business LOOOOOOOONG ago.
I think those pushing the “freeze Harry out” narrative are the crack team of KP/Carole/rota people who drove them to another continent. And some people (because of the narratives created over years) believe that AND think it makes the Firm look stoic, dutiful, classy or whatever. I agree that Charles needs to get control of Will & Kate’s dueling messages. The fact that he hasn’t, when we know he’s fairly media savvy, is really curious to me.
@Lizzie Bathory – Charles absolutely has to stop faffing around and ignoring the elephant(s) in the room – William and Kate. However given William’s intransigence, the teetering state of his marriage, and the shocking lack of positive PR, I think Charles may be waiting quietly until the Cambridges totally shoot themselves in the foot, then give them their marching orders to get to f*cking work or the Prince and Princess of Wales titles they both want so badly will be withheld indefinitely.
@Jaded, This is the only theory that makes sense to me. But getting those two to work will be a bear. I’d rather coordinate D-Day.
Starting to get King Joffrey vibes from Baldimort…
What really happened:
1. Peter was always going to be between Will and Harry.
2. Will used that to create a “Harry is frozen out” narrative.
3. Kate and Charles are using it to create separate and competing “peacemaker” campaigns.
4. Peter is just glad he got money for slowing down for paps to get a money shot, because he needs gas cash to visit his Scotland booty call.
5. Harry is just glad Jack has lots of free Casamigos stashed at Frogmore… and that he was able to slip Will a couple Better Up coupons when they walked away from the church.
@Rapunzel
#4 had me in stitches.
Thank you for that!
William never looked at Harry…
William has never struck me as the proud or caring big brother. He always seems saddled with having Harry as a sibling and begrudgingly dealt with it. Why would he care now?
Yes! Wills was golden perfect boy in his teenage years and seemed like he considered Harry baggage. (Of course the institution enabled this sort of dehumanising attitude.)
Will is very dismissive of Harry and almost seems annoyed by him.
Just like he seems saddled with having Kate as a wife. There seems to be an ongoing theme here…
The Royal Family choreographed the entire procession and post funeral for the benefit of the press. They were not uniting behind the Queen. Kate wanted to be seen as the peacemaker, Charles waved off the cars so the press could get pictures of the family, they wore suits because they realised the family would get flack for Harry being banned from wearing a uniform, and Peter was told to walk in the middle but two paces behind.
“Princess Anne, Prince Edward and his wife Sophie failed to acknowledge Harry before or during yesterday’s service, it was claimed.” How incredibly petty, childish, shameless and stupid of them.
Yes, I can’t imagine why they think this would make them look good.
Harry needs to return to Cali to his wife and children and the rest of the royals can just go F themselves.
Oh and sophie showed her true B———ch at the cow service last year so Ashe can just F off along with her delicate husband.
Sorry cw service
Now I’m sort of wondering if Harry walking quickly to catch up with Will, was Harry trolling him. Like “you don’t want to talk to me and be seen with me? You want to let it be known that you’re freezing me out and need Peter to stand between us. Oh well, here I am!” And then maybe he says some jerky stuff that makes Kate step back like “oh shit, this isn’t the peace making that I thought I was getting myself into!” I doubt it, but it would be kind of funny.
That’s what I said above! I doubt it, but it’s a funny way to view the walk back – as Harry trolling William.
Why should we take anything printed by the DM as credible?
I don’t believe William asked that they walk separate from each other unless it was to make sure they didn’t “become the focal point”. The Queen made her choices for the funeral and the attire & the order of procession was among them. They were separated by Earl Spencer when they walked behind their Mother’s casket as well. I think the media’s need to pit the boys against each other just as it was to pit the 2 Duchesses against each other is what’s at play.
I did see Page Six mention the meeting between the brother’s was “unproductive” Those are Gayle King’s words and it think its just a rehashing as no one knows, especially the media.
Harry and Meghan claimed the Windsor family were racists. What do they expect? To be greeted with open arms and a warm smile? *LOL* That ship has sailed.
They will only welcome their white prince with open arms and a warm smile.
Where did they ever give the impression that they wanted to be welcomed back with open arms?
Well maybe don’t be such a racist family and you won’t get described as such.
Yes, because the only thing worse than being a racist is being accused of being a racist, amirite?
They’ve already been greeted with open arms and a warm smile – by AMERICA. What Meghan went through was one of the ugliest examples of institutionalized racism, supported and abetted by the royal family. Her family. They allowed the threats and humiliations to continue until she couldn’t deal with it anymore, especially after Archie was born. Now go back to the Daily Fail.
Anyone who thinks they would have treated Harry any differently because of that interview is delusional because the resentment was already fully there before that. No one in that family see anything wrong with how Meghan was treated and how nasty it was. They only think Harry was wrong to stay by her side and to step back, a d speak about it. They had a whole year, during the Queen’s twilight years to back off and give them space, but they kept attacking them. Anyway, it’s done, it’s out there. William can go back to thinking he’s saving the kingdom by zooming and showing up in ambulance bays and football clubs.
@L4frimaire, yes, one has to wonder how much all this unwarranted and evil bullshi- has affected the Queen. She’s very stoic but still human and quite aged. She can’t be all that oblivious to the crap.
I really wish we knew what the hell William’s problem is. Plenty of people with wealth and status hate their families but at least they can put on a united front for the cameras. It wouldn’t have killed him to walk with him for 2 minutes.
Also, I didn’t watch the funeral. But I saw photos, every picture I saw suggested Harry *did not* want to be there at all and the only reason he seemed he was there was because he loved his grandfather. He looked like he was very uncomfortable.
It makes sense that they would try to make willie incandescent as his angry reputation, (and he is probably is lol) but in this case, I dont believe it. This is a time where people dont act or react like this, even if they are royals. Where would you have placed Peter if not in between him and Harry? I dont see anywhere else but there? The questions probably was, where should Peter go, and since he is Anne’s son after all – and probably just as close to Prince Philip, William might have suggested that Peted be in the middle, so he can have the same importance on the day. Of course, with their friction, Harry couldnt be in the middle or himself. We can see him walking in between, and just a little bit behind at times. It is so obvious how British reporters dramatize everything by not telling the whole story. Like I was fuming when they said Meghan couldnt be there because of medical issues – are you serious she’s like 24 months preggers – cant you just say she is in the 3rd semester of her pregnancy, I mean she was already so pregnant in march!
As the oldest grandchild, he was always set to be in the middle of a 3-row line. That’s what the protocol experts say.
Curious tho if there had been no feud, whether the protocol experts would have said, line-of-succession determines placement. so PW in middle, PH to his right, and then Peter on the left.
At Diana’s funeral of course, principal mourner was determined to be her brother, and he was in the middle of the 5-person row. With eldest son on his right, and her younger son on his left. So I kind of think it would just normally have been the eldest grandchild in the middle of a 3-person row of grandsons. Pretty sure claims to contrary are made-up fluff.
I just assumed that Peter was a step or so behind because he was told to be since he doesn’t have a title and that is the crappy attention to made up protocol that I expect from these people.
Nothing is as it appears.
So, the BRF are just like every other bunch of trashy, gaslighting relatives who need lots of therapy.
And just like his wife Baldy makes a solemn occasion about him and only him. They are a perfect match of two most entitled, self absorbed people. These two are not even 1 percenters, maybe .1 percenters and yet miserable and crying, moaning about perceived slights, climbing over each other and dead grandfather to be the center of attention.
Apparently the reason Baldy couldn’t get anyone else to marry him in that decade when he tried really hard wasn’t just the media attention but his truly miserable and toxic personality.
I remember reading about one time that Harry had returned from a tour and was answering some questions from the press. He had just flown back and was really tired, W saw him and cut the interview short, being protective of his little brother. I know the narrative is that they are horrible to eachother, but maybe there is more to it than meets the eye….
And what decade did that happen in?
Since then William has thrown his brother under the bus many times…
@Thenoper
Just to throw my consipiracy theory:
1. he almost complete his tour and may received rank that higher than most of the BRF.
2. His location was conviniently leak to the press. (Wonder who is it, dont you think?)
3. Harry retired.
@TheNoper, you know, you’re probably not wrong entirely. I’m sure William and Harry have an incredibly complicated relationship. My theory though, is that it’s gotten worse since that time when William stepped forward to cut the interview short. Things happened in the time between then and now, and I don’t think William is in a good place himself to really be much of a brother to Harry at all.
I want to see that interview !🤔
Far more likely, if that happened, William was resentful that Harry was receiving attention for serving in a war zone. Wanted to cut things short because Billy wasn’t the focus of attention, it was all about what Harry had achieved.
Does ANYONE here actually believe these “crisis PR” gurus that are starting next month are going to be able to do anything effective? They would have to get the unhinged courtiers to shut their flapping mouths for five hot minutes, and they would need their clients to actually listen to their advice – these racist, tone deaf inbreds who surround themselves with sycophants.
Good luck. I hope their contract is pay regardless of outcome and in advance.
Forget the old royals. I think Edward, Eugenie and Beatrice side with Harry. William has butted heads with Edward, Andrew. Seems to me everyone stays out of William’s path.
Kate Jeweled up like she was at a fashion show disgusting!!
The person(s) in the BRF leaking to press, is someone with power.
Angela Levin is getting her gossip from that someone in the BRF, several of them are.
The old head photographer guy I see on GMB, I saw him at the funeral taking pictures. He’s been on GMP trashing Harry and Meghan a lot..
The BRF are hand-in-hand with the media. Explains why Andrew never gets any press,
I suspect it is the same person who took out injunction to ensure that their name was not mentioned during Meghan’s court case. When push came to shove that person did not have the guts to put their name to a witness statement.
Anyone else starting to think that this is Charles telling everyone that although William polls better, he’s not ready to be king?
He’s not ready to be king (William). By letting that out after the peace summit this really make Baldy look bad.
Peter was called out for traveling to Scotland to visit a women during lockdown. That was his first warning from the BRF media masters. They know what he is up too and will expose him if he doesn’t play ball.
The whole funeral was disrespectful and sold on Harry’s back.
This British Royal family is sewer level low muck.
Billy the Basher strikes again
This man is not fit to be king. A coward who couldnt face his own brother. Good luck Britain.