There is, as always, a lot of performative angst about Prince Harry this week in the British media. Once it was confirmed that Harry left the UK and arrived back in California on Tuesday, the narrative became “how dare he abandon the Queen on her birthday!” Like Harry is the Queen’s only relative or something. Nevermind the fact that Charles f–ked off to Wales to regroup on Sunday, the day after his father’s funeral. Nevermind the fact that William and Kate went to London and didn’t spend time with the Queen on her birthday either. With all of the breast-beating angst coming out of the British media, you would think that we were right back where we started. Where Harry must be *forced* into coming back to the UK for reasons. Those reasons involve work, duty and helping his father and brother. The fact of the matter is that Charles and William are united in one thing: they’re both happier with Harry and Meghan out of the country.
Prince Charles is reportedly planning how the Royal Family will work together for engagements in the future, with a major shake-up in the works. It comes as the heir to the throne has started carving out his new role following the death of the Duke of Edinburgh earlier this month. The royals lost three working members over the last couple of years after Prince Andrew stepped back over his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex also dramatically quit their roles as senior royals last year to seek a new life of financial independence in the US.
However, an insider has claimed Charles may find working with the new team of senior royals “a lot calmer” without Meghan Markle and Prince Harry “kicking off”.
A source told the Mirror: “One of the main issues with Harry and Meghan when they were part of the working family was their inability to understand how things worked. It’s been a lot simpler without them kicking off over why they couldn’t just do what they wanted. Things are a lot calmer.”
We focus a lot on how He Who Is Engorged With Rage spent more than a year smearing the hell out of his brother and sister-in-law. And it’s true, Baldemort did that. But Charles helped. Charles implicitly or explicitly approved of all of it. Charles is forever petty and forever jealous, and he is constantly worried about being “overshadowed.” Charles also hated the fact that Harry and Meghan were so charismatic and headline-grabbing. The Sussexes made Charles look dull as well, they didn’t just make William and Kate look dowdy, suburban and rather dull. So… just remember that when royal commentators are in hysterics about Harry and Meghan’s California life. Charles and William are actually happier with H&M gone (which is incredibly short-sighted, but that’s a different conversation).
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Imagine being an adult and being told you can’t do what you want by your family. Harry and Meghan left because it’s a ridiculous way to live.
Imagine being an adult living a life of UNimaginable (to most) luxury off the taxpayers. GMAB there’s another side to that coin.
The Sussexes seem to still be living a life in luxury, compared to most of the world’s population. They are funding it themselves now through their own endeavors AND they get their freedom and autonomy from an oppressive institution.
So pretending that their only choice was subjugating themselves to the will of the Firm, including emotional abuse, lack of autonomy in their own lives and having to just put up with it because they lived in “luxury”, that that is somehow a beneficial “other side of the coin” is silly.
They obviously didn’t think the trade off was worth it … living a royal lifestyle wasn’t enough to make things peachy keen for someone who was suicidal and being denied access to mental health care, or for the husband who loves her.
Abuse is abuse, lack of freedom is lack of freedom, no matter how ‘luxurious’ one’s lifestyle appears to someone else.
And even if someone were willing to make that trade off for themselves, who would wish it for their child, particularly one being depicted as less than human by loud elements of the system that props up that luxury?
Imagine being surrounded by unimaginable luxury and yet abused and isolated to the point where you want to kill yourself, and people’s reaction being “oh, you’re rich, why are you complaining!”
But they lose freedom which is priceless. They don’t seem like happy people(the fam damily), very troubled actually. I really hope Harry can recover from the disfunction he’s had to live his whole life and decompress and learn to chill Cali style. (sorry about the colloquialisms but he looked so free walking on the beach. They should employ those special effects make-up artists so they would be unrecognizable and they could cruise State street incognito.
When people criticize the Sussexes about leaving their tax funded lifestyle, it inevitably says a lot about the person doing the criticizing. It tells me that the critics would do anything for the wealth, status, & privilege, even at the cost of their own freedom & self-respect. It tells me that these people think willingly playing the scapegoat & leading their future children down the same path to be abused & gaslighted by the heirs is ok with them as long as they get paid. Imagine being happy with the crumbs & so desperate to be a part of Royalty that you would willingly let them take credit for your work & throw you to the wolves all in the name of the monarchy & the pampered heirs. Most Americans & people from other countries can’t fathom it. But then, most of us weren’t bred from generation to generation to be someone’s peasant. Hell, I’m willing to bet many people in the UK resent playing the peasant to these Royal asshats, as well.
Thankfully, there are enough non-Royalists in the world who can see that living a life in a gilded cage & playing the subservient scapegoat in order to appease the heir is not worth it. And all for what? So you can kowtow & kneel in deference to them for the rest of your life so they won’t be inclined to cut you off financially at their whim should you displease them in any way? Are some people so afraid of the concept of working for a living that they’d do anything to not work? Yeah, no thanks says the rest of the world who actually have working brains, a healthy work ethic, & self-respect.
Congratulations Royalists. You should be happy that the Sussexes bounced. Now you’re stuck with the royals who would do anything to keep their taxpayer funded lifestyle for doing the bare minimum. To think, these people ran out the ones who actually worked and made a difference to their charities in favor of the lazy ones (Baldy & Karen) whose charities are closing in droves for lack of funds. I suspect this is why so many of you are still so salty.
The other side would be Harry and Meg pay their own bills, your concern should be worrying if you are British just how long are you going to be stuck paying for the rest of the biggest welfare recipients who live a life of luxury in exchange for showing up for ten minutes once a year to cut a ribbon
@Darla the actual other side of the coin is getting a f*cking job, working for what you have and paying back any taxpayer money spent on your home which **checks notes** is what Harry & Meghan did. And it is also mind you what Meghan did for her entire life befor marrying Harry. She knows what its like to work for a living and became self made millionaire before her marriage to Harry. But most importantly shr had enough self worth to know being allowed to wear a tiara a few times a year isn’t enouhh to put up with being a country’s punching bag while being racially abused to the point you want to kill yourself
On what planet does it make sense to come online and mock a couple who was abused by their families and GAVE BACK TAXPAYER MONEY for taking taxpayer money?! You might want to look at the welfare royals who are still living in multiple palaces at the expense of the taxpayer as a reward for doing less than half a year’s worth of plaque unveiling and leave these two who are paying taxes and working for what they have alone.
“It’s been a lot simpler without them kicking off over why they couldn’t just do what they wanted. Things are a lot calmer.”
Charles has everyone singing the same song from the same page of the Royal hymn book now which is to sing in low tones so no one notices that the least amount of productive work is being done while still receiving the maximal taxpayer subsidy.
—“The royals lost three working members over the last couple of years after Prince Andrew stepped back over his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.”—
In the last couple of years, Andrew was forced to leave his position due to long-standing allegations of rape of an underaged sex trafficking victim and his close friendship with a convicted paedophile.
—“The Duke and Duchess of Sussex also dramatically quit their roles as senior royals last year to seek a new life of financial independence in the US.”—
Harry and Meghan also made the decision to step back from their positions to prioritise their mental health and family’s well-being after a 4 year smear campaign in the British media almost drove Meghan to suicide while pregnant.
Prince Philip retired 4 years ago, Andrew and Harry and Meghan all left over a year ago, so why are the other royals still having to “plan” their “new” roles? I thought plans were already in place, hence the ridiculous Magnificent 7 roll out? It looks like they can’t let go of Harry and Meghan’s absence, so they are trying to keep the story going in the press. They want to make them look bad for “abandoning” the firm and leaving them in the lurch. Odd, because I thought Kate was the monarchy’s rock, carrying the entire institution on her epaulette-clad shoulders.
The shielding of Andrew and comparisons to Harry are just ridiculous. He’s literally hiding out from the FBI. He nearly caused an international political incident with the UK’s biggest ally. Even if you dislike Harry and Meghan, they are not rapists.
@PEARL GREY Excellent rewrite! 👍🏼👍🏼
@PearlGrey THANK YOU. This is exactly what I was shouting to myself as I read the article. They do it every time, every single time.
As if the Sussexes would have left solely for financial reasons, not because Meghan was being constantly abused, by both the national press and the family, 24/7 for years on end.
As if the problem is simply Andrew’s “friendship” with Epstein. (I mean yeah, that “friendship” in and of itself still would have been a problem, especially the fact that he let Jeffrey and Ghislaine into BP and didn’t Ghislaine sit on the Queen’s throne?? That didn’t look great. But it would have been far less of a problem than Andrew *raping a teenager.*)
If they repeat it enough times, plenty of people will believe it’s the truth, so props to them, I guess, for always being so consistent.
@Pearl Grey, well said. Also, they never mention how them stepping bs k was actually being negotiated for months until KP leaked the plans to undermine it. Sick of Harry and Meghan being lumped with Andrew. Also, before that disastrous interview, what royal work was Andrew doing the past three years that was so noteworthy that anyone is going to miss? I only recall him hobnobbing with despots in Gulf kingdoms and doing the royal equivalent of sponcon.
@Darla, this type of statement is what people who were saying, “ we pay for you, don’t like it, leave “. Then they get upset that they did exactly that, paid back the so-called gift of Frogmore and it turns out, Meghan was paying for most of her own stuff anyway. You’re just being churlish.
Excellent corection, especially about Andrew.
Geeeze! With a father and family like this, who needs enemies? Charles is kidding himself if he thinks there is no “drama” left in his family. To find it, he should start off by looking in the mirror and go from there. These people deserve each other. I’m so glad the Sussexes have moved on.
I don’t buy this story as things have NOT been calmer without them around; it’s been about the same. And I wish the royals hadn’t relinquished their power sometimes because if I were royalty, I’d lock people up in dungeons for incessant reporting. “You get one story bimonthly! Or the Tower of London!”
It has not been calmer because they are dealing with a succession crisis and even the most ardent royalist have admitted so. They always expected harry to be right there with them to help out. Be he’s gone now and things have just been more complicated.
They didn’t ‘relinquish their power’. They had it removed forcibly by Parliament and Oliver Cromwell. Charles 1 was beheaded because he believed he could rule by ‘divine right’ and without Parliament. The monarchy was restored by popular demand after Oliver Cromwell’s death but Charles 11 had to accept that he ruled only with the consent of Parliament.
Since then the monarchy has evolved into a constitutional framework by which it holds nominal power ‘in trust for the people’. Its main functions are to provide a safeguard against dictatorship, to act as a unifying symbol in the the UK (and in theory also the Commonwealth) and to represent the UK to other countries.
The current incumbent is now incapable of fulfilling her role but there are constitutional procedures for dealing with this and Parliament is involved.
Now that would be fun!
I honestly think things are WORSE. They can’t leak on their favorite scapegoats to the press anymore; the best they can do is rehash and/or twist old stories. They have a powder keg in the form of the queen’s favored son, who is becoming more difficult to protect given his loud wishes to be a working royal again. The heir of the heir is out of control and seems closer to having a meltdown with each new unhinged “William needs Harry to be there for him” article. He also seems to be encouraging more of the “Charles is unfit to be king” narrative and undermining his father/the monarchy in the process. The heir of the heir’s wife and her mother have set off their own bizarre PR hurricane, which in turn undermines her husband. Most recently, the passing of the patriarch has likely set off plenty of alarms about how different the monarchy might look/become, and how soon those differences may come.
Personally I think there’s currently a fair bit of panic among the ranks. They know that losing the queen means losing the shield/protection the monarchy has enjoyed, and with Philip’s passing they’ve been reminded of how easily and quickly things could flip for them. What people tolerate now is largely because of respect (whether begrudging or earnest) for Elizabeth. That WILL change when it’s time for Charles to ascend the throne. These talks and summits are them trying to figure out how to hold onto as much as they can and keep the monarchy afloat. I wonder if they’re seeing a greater risk of abolition than is publicly known.
@Beach Dreams, your description seems like the plot of a Shakespearean play! There are so many elements of his histories and tragedies that you mention.
@Beach Dreams things are definitely worse! You summed it up perfectly.
I’d like to know what Christopher Geidt thinks when he reads the “news” every day. I admit I don’t know exactly what his role entailed, but I do know that after he left was when everything seemed to devolve into a complete and utter sh!tshow, which is rapidly becoming irreparable. And Meghan seemed to like him; there was a photo of her greeting him at some event and she seemed to be genuinely smiling. They need that dude back.
I don’t buy this story either. It states that “Charles MAY find working with the new team of senior royals “a lot calmer” without Meghan Markle and Prince Harry “kicking off.” The text implies that he didn’t say this but some “source” believes that is the case. This is clickbait.
Good luck, king-forever-in-waiting. Maybe you’ll finally get to sit on the throne when you’re 80, unencumbered by the son you threw away. F***ing parasites.
He’s not ever going to change. Not at his age, and not with the level of kowtowing, bowing, and scraping he demands from his courtiers. He’ll always be a jealous, petty, insecure bastard, demanding everyone’s attention, wondering if the spotlight’s on him, and fretting even when it is. He’ll be at his own coronation, sitting on the throne with the crown on his head, and he’ll still be worried about the cameras in Westminster Abbey being pointed at someone else.
Are you referring to Charles III or TOB…aka…Baldingham, I cannot tell!
I was referring to Chuckles, but you’re right — my comment can be applied to both!
@booboocita, 100 correct. He is insecure, petty and heartless. His own son. WOW is all I can say. My heart always goes out to Diana when I think that as a young girl THIS was what she had to lean on. Chuky is empty inside and that means so is Cams. Good luck to those who cheer on this family for the future of the monarchy. Anne would have been better suited as Queen, maybe that is what Philip saw and knew and why she was his favorite. After Anne, Harry.
Poor Little Rich Monarchs to be – both Chucky and Willy.
This times 💯! Gross little cowardly man
The Queen is a marvel: she swore to be true to Her Subjects back in 1929 or 1932 and promised us that Duty would be her lodestar. There are not many people alive today who grew up without the Queen and her duty and her daffy co-stars, Princess Margaret Rose and the Queen Mum. Margaret and Mum knew how to play to the press and the public and became great characters.
So where is the Duty? Where are the characters? Princess Anne is great at her job, but she is not “beloved”. How many Brits want to be Subject to Chas or Bulliam? How many members of the Commonwealth will flee when QE2 is not around? If not before….
I’m guessing you mean 1953 … still a long, long time ago!
@Doulton – There really is no reason for any Commonwealth country to flee their organization as the Commonwealth organization just needs to blackball and chuck-out the UK.
Sorry, but QEII is not a marvel. She is a poorly educated product of her time who keeps quiet, does what she’s told, and never takes even the smallest risk, no matter how important the issue is to her or to the world. She has always been a trash parent and a trash manager.
This family is awful. I have lost so much respect for the BRF. I don’t even want to return to London anymore, and I did not see all of the art in the museums I wanted to. Oh well, France, Italy, and Europe have great art too.
I feel the same way. I wish to never donate one penny to support these people again
Charles is exactly the man who married a girl too young to know anything, as a cover for his affair, and treated her like garbage.
He is still that guy.
And yes, the common theme of this family seems to be petty jealousy b/c the “queen” or the “heir” demands and expects the world to revolve around them.
These people are gross.
“One of the main issues with Harry and Meghan when they were part of the working family was their inability to understand how things worked. It’s been a lot simpler without them kicking off over why they couldn’t just do what they wanted. Things are a lot calmer.”
Translation: “One of the main issues with H&M is that they wouldn’t dim their shine to 50% less so as to not overshadow anyone or highlight how lazy and dim Bill and Cathy are. And that they didn’t like how KP weaponized the paps against Meghan. Oh, and the racism too. They wouldn’t play their parts as scapegoats and be thankful for it. It’s been a lot simpler without them rebelling over their shitty treatment. Everyone that’s left knows their place.”
This!!
Yep!!!!
Yup, pretty much. They wouldn’t do what they were told which was to be eternal scapegoats for the other royals (i.e William, Kate and Charles.)
Imagine being at work and being told by your manager, hey- don’t keep working hard and putting in 110% because it’s making me and my manager look bad. I would leave too.
“You can’t break up with. me when I’m breaking up with you!” pettiness combined with obdurate determination to carry on just the way they always have is not a clever strategy, but hey. What can I say to you, Chuck, other than: You do you, boo.
They are all cutting their noses off to spite their faces, but that’s par for the course with these folks.
Back to their little aristocratic bubble where they are free to live their white, privileged, boys club lives and not have to think about complicated issues like racism, misogyny and xenophobia on a daily basis.
And, quite frankly, they DO have enough on their plates trying to figure out how the monarchy moves forward. Maybe they have finally accepted that Harry isn’t returning to The Firm.
Now if we can only get the RRs to accept it and back the eff off. I feel like they are sharpening their knives for new targets and Kate and the Middleton’s are their next victims.
@Snuffles ita and I wish them luck trying to make this work long-term without the Sussexes, and only the “magnificent seven.” Thoughts and prayers to Charles at this time.
I apologize for my French, but Charles is a little b*tch, a lousy husband, father and grandfather who prefers his mistress over anything. One of the most vile individuals I know of. Willingly endangered his son’s family’s livelihood out of pettiness. May that crown never sit on his head. You lot never deserved the Sussexes, who honestly could have saved your monarchy. Karma.
Tampon Gate. That says it all about Charles.
that’s the piece of this that if I were Harry I’d have a hard time ever getting past — that Charles knowingly put H&M&A in harm’s way and took away their security at the same time, esp after what happened to Diana. Not just the physical danger but the psychological cruelty of it. It also makes the statement about it being easier without H&M a bit chilling…
It doesn’t feel calmer going by the reports following the funeral. I am pleased when they acknowledge their pettiness. It’s better than the faux-outrage that Harry and Meghan deserted their duties. This, instead, is an admission that the couple, Meghan in particular, was not welcomed by the family. People shouldn’t cry about the poor grandfather not seeing his grandson when he makes it clear that he doesn’t want them around.
Exactly when Archie’s birthday comes up and Lil’ Montecito is born there better not be a single story talking about Charles missing his grandkids.
@JT oh god there are going to be countless “Harry and Meghan are so cruel for keeping Archie and the new baby away from the family” stories, and we’ll for sure hear all about how devastated Charles and the Queen are. As if they’re down on their hands and knees playing with Louis every day.
There are TWO, only TWO PICS, of Charles *with* Archie, both taken at his Christening. Let’s not kid ourselves that Tampon-Boy spent any real time w/Archie before they left Salty Isle.
Thank you. This simply means that meghan was telling the truth. They don’t care about her not about her baby.
It’s just crazy. If Chuckles doesn’t even miss H&M, why the hell would he care about their children? I’m willing to bet he had only seen Archie about handful of times, if that.
Listen I dont believe any of these stories.
We all know Mumbles McButtons of Keenbridge, Mayor elect of Lazytown is going to single handedly save the monarchy.
You have my vote for comment of the week!
There it is. They don’t want them around. So stop carrying that torch BM, you can drop it.
Oh wait, you can’t because it’s the only way you make money after you chased your main “money makers” (yuck) away with your racist bull patucky. Choke on it, the lot of ya tabloids and especially Charles.
These guys just won’t quit. The Sussexes have been gone for over a year now yet the palace keeps going on and on about them. They’ve told us they are happy that the Sussexes have gone but still can’t stop talking about them. It’s like they have some kind of infliction or maybe they desperately want to believe they are better off without them and want us to know it’s the Sussexes loss and their gain. I don’t believe it for a minute. They screwed up and they know it.
They are bitter and can’t let go. No moving on.
If they are so happy about it why the continued whining that they left. Leave them alone already, stop talking about them.
I don’t believe anyone is happier that they are gone. If that was the case they wouldn’t have a meltdown every time H&M do something big. Paying back Frogmore, the house, Netflix, Archewell, Spotify, and the Invictus doc have all been met with outrage and blindsided angst. If they were truly happy they wouldn’t continue to brief against them. And again, the fact that they are saying this simply means that the opposite is true. Nope, the are even angrier at them leaving and it will get worse when H&M start doing events and going in red carpets again. The royals will look even duller.
Ugh, god, they even raged about Meghan narrating that elephant documentary. They spent, like, more than a week trashing it! These people are obsessed.
For decades to come, Harry and Meghan will be the ones that got away. They are mega stars and will continue to be so – they’ll just be doing their good work from the United States instead of Great Britain. What a wasted opportunity for the BRF.
If i was charles or willie, i would be hating on HM too.
Imagine your life had been promise to be the most importance person and the most beloved popular in your country without working too hard and will constantly get praises even when you did nothing.
Then come along meghan with so many ideas, able to solve problem and uplift her patronege while looking beautiful and effortless.
If you cant beat HM, you need to make them go away.
I guess congrats to charles and willie?
Prince W is in his late 30s….he has decades to cool his heels in the calmness, waiting for his old man to kick it, just like his father is doing. There’s no guarantee either will get the reward in the end as the RF seems hideously outdated.
He really is a sh1t father.
He’s worse than T0m IMO. So disappointing.
And it’s two-fold. He’s pissed off at his youngest son for taking control of his and his family’s future after being bullied by, not only the Rota Rats, but also their own family members, especially his spoiled and lazy brother\SIL/ Middletons. But he also refuses to shut down Williams etc’s laziness, leaking and assholery. Chuck’s decision to sacrifice a relationship with HM & A just to maintain the outdated, racist monarchy is appalling. He doesn’t deserve to be called Dad.
Yes, let’s remember that William and Charles worked together in the smear campaign against Harry and Meghan and to choreograph Philip’s funeral. The funeral was not about honouring Philip but an attempt to humiliate Harry.
No the funeral was an attempt to prop up keen
Kate’s role as “peacemaker” is why I believe the funeral was choreographed by William and Charles. The intention was to wear uniforms knowing Harry was barred from wearing one. Although Peter Phillips was put in the middle it was clear that he was told to walk two paces behind so it would appear on camera that Harry and William were walking “shoulder to shoulder” as the press put it. Charles waved off the cars after the funeral so that the press could get pictures of the family leaving the church and so that Kate could get her chance to play peacemaker.
Whatever the funeral was, it sure wasn’t about Philip, judging by the press this week. My god.
He’s happier that the Sussexes are not around. Yet he can’t stop talking about the “irrelevant couple”. Of course he’d be the happiest. He nearly offed them and yanked their security. I hope that coward POS never sees the throne,as well as Princess William aka Woldemort.
Charles is glad the Sussexes are “not around”?
Welp, Charlie old son, just imagine how glad Harry & Meghan feel being away from Y’ALL
Lol!
Charlie, Cammi, Bill, and Cathy are soooooo glad that Harry and Megan won’t be coming to their neighborhood bbqs anymore!
Translation- how things work is the press having the Sussexes around as silent scapegoats to prop up the heirs/ provide cover for Andrew & ‘kicking off’ means the Sussexes pushing back against this assigned role& wanting support against press smears/toxic behaviour
it’s ‘calmer’ now means palace courtiers have less access to the Sussexes therefore less gossip being leaked to the press, spotlight should be back on the heirs& press know they are going back to tamer royal watching days.
the press were dining on the smear campaign, rift dramas etc. My guess is this article is from a bored royal reporter filing copy& not from the palace.
Agreed. This is a non story really since H&M were gone last March. It isn’t even timely.
Pos. I am heartbroken for Harry. Awful father and awful and deranged brother. The only two people that gave a shit about them were prince Philip and the queen. Nasty people.
Same. I feel so sorry for Harry. I don’t care about his money and titles; he’s having to process that he basically doesn’t have any close family members who truly love and support him. Maybe Eugenie, but that’s different from a parent or sibling. I really think he had faith in Charles and William his entire life and that’s all been shattered over the past five or so years.
I do think the Queen probably loves him in her own way, but she sure didn’t show it publicly when he and his wife and baby needed it, and she won’t be around too much longer anyway.
@From the Excerpt Above: “However, an insider has claimed Charles may find working with the new team of senior royals “a lot calmer” without Meghan Markle and Prince Harry “kicking off”.
A source told the Mirror: “One of the main issues with Harry and Meghan when they were part of the working family was their inability to understand how things worked. It’s been a lot simpler without them kicking off over why they couldn’t just do what they wanted. Things are a lot calmer.”
It doesn’t say ‘Charles said,’ but rather an ‘Insider claims’ Charles ‘May’ find working with the new team of seniors easier, not that Charles ‘said’ it would be easier. And nothing in the second paragraph of the excerpt indicates it is Charles saying these things, just a ‘Source’ telling the Mirror the same things Palace insiders have been saying about Harry and Meghan for three years.
I think it’s the way Chuck and TOB are working with press. It’s never direct quote, it’s always “source”, just to avoid to be caught red-handed. But trust me, this was sanctioned.
The idea that Harry didn’t understand “how things worked” is completely absurd. They were happy to let him get on with things when it was just him. The problem was Meghan and her sparkle.
I think they really believe Harry didn’t understand how things worked. He understood just fine, he just refused to go along with their plan and allow himself and his wife and baby to be abused. But I’m sure they absolutely believe he’s just too dumb to “get it” when in fact it’s the opposite. They’ve been underestimating Harry for his *entire life* and I think they’re still underestimating him.
Yeah, I don’t know that Charles had anything to do with this article. We know the rota just makes sht up half the time.
My initial reaction to this was Well, screw you Chuck! But then I saw it wasn’t his words directly. But the fact that they can say things like this without any consequence is horrible.
I can’t help but laugh at this admission that they’re glad the Sussexes are gone. I said on another post several days ago, and I’ll say again, that in this current pandemic, closed in climate we’re all living, I sometimes forget that it won’t be like this forever. There is going to come a day when H&M get to go out again and be among people–working, looking glamorous, speaking engagements, awards, looking happy with their two children.
I hope the RF is enjoying this quiet lull while H&M are still rather hidden away–or as close to quiet as it can get anyway–because once it’s over and H&M are seen out in public more doing their thing, they aren’t going to know what hit them. W&K in particular are going to be in for a hilarious rude awakening. All eyes in Britain will be facing west to California.
Once the pandemic quarantine is lifted, Harry & Meghan will do some sort of event, sooner or later, that requires evening dress. Harry looks fabulous in a tux, and we know that Meghan can bust out with some high fashion lewks (I’m still gasping over the red dress with cape that she wore to the Royal Marines event during last year’s Commonwealth activities). Whatever that event is, the media is sure to be there, cameras ready. The interest will be INTENSE. And then get ready for the hue and cry coming from London, followed by Bill and Cathy at some gala, any gala, posing for all they’re worth, and the fawning stories about Cathy: “She wore her dress far better than Meghan did hers, everyone says so!”
Hmmmm! I don’t know…. this story is full of holes. Certainly some courtiers, living pseudo royal lifestyles in KP and the other royal residences will be more comfortable in their white entitled lifestyle. This would be especially so after the pressure on them with Philip’s funeral. It must have been quite something, placating all those royal egos – each requiring their due deference and their apportioned positions in the procession. Then having to juggle protocol to put Harry in a place which would least threaten Charles, Anne, Andrew, Edward, William. However, here’s the thing. Who is writing this? It can’t be Charles – he’s still in Wales. I doubt it’s even William, who seems increasingly withdrawn and probably eager to forget Phil’s death and even his grandmother, who is living in splendid isolation at Windsor Castle – Will and Kate and children are now back in Norfolk. I suspect this story is coming from the usual suspect – Carole Middleton who is known to be very close to the editor of the Telegraph and the editor of the DM. Carole is always the absent presence – feeding titbits to the press to gain positive pieces about Kate – yet never on the radar. I believe it’s meant to stir trouble – to upset Harry who loves his father [and his unworthy brother]. If Harry feels unwanted he’ll not return to the UK. So Meghan will not be a continuing threat to Kate when she accompanies Harry. Just because it’s in writing doesn’t make it true.
In agreement with you, IRMAVEP. I’m not buying this is coming from Charles right now. Not that he hasn’t been a shite or anything. I just don’t think it’s something he’s said recently. Maybe last year. My instinct is that it’s coming from Will/Kate/Carole or a bored writer. It does seem to stir up trouble. With all the murmurings, stories and hints about the “possibility” of Will skipping over Charles, I can easily see, Will & The Meddletons (someone came up with that name here on CB and it’s great) duplicity in this.
Charles has been at his cottage for the last 5 days?, I believe he’s really not thinking about any of this at the moment. Until William straight out says he does not want to skip over Charles to be king, that he’s looking forward to seeing his Dad’s coronation, and hopes he will be able to serve him well-I just don’t trust Will & The Meddletons except to sing I Want it Now from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (along with their other f*ckery).
With the amount of garbage narrative the Windsors and Cambridges (and Middletons) are spewing they’re going to have to build a special landfill site for it all. Things are not a lot calmer, in fact things are a lot less calm – they’re on a ship without a rudder on rough seas. Keen and Mean are useless, Charles faffs around avoiding setting a proper course for said ship and Camilla day drinks. As for the others, yes, they work but Andrew has been banished from public duties, Anne is in her seventies and probably wants to slow down, which leaves Sophie and Edward to do the heavy lifting unless some of the younger royals step up, but the York sisters are tainted by association to their disgusting parents so I don’t know where they’ll fit in, if at all. It’s another fine mess the BARF (British Asshole Royal Family) has gotten themselves into.
@Jaded lmao at the landfill comment— too true.
I actually think utilizing Eugenie and Beatrice more might be Charles’s best option at this point? Yes their father is a disgusting criminal and Charles hates him — and let’s not even get started on Fergie — but most people know enough not to blame the girls for the actions of their parents.
They’re young, pretty, wear interesting clothes, seem friendly enough at events, Eugenie has a handsome husband and a cute baby and I’m sure Beatrice will soon too — and that seems to be all that many Royal watchers care about, judging by Kate.
As long as they have some fashion, hair, and makeup to dissect each day, they’re good. They don’t care about actual philanthropy; they’re interested in all of the trappings. So the York girls could be mute mannequins just like Kate, yet still up the numbers in the CC.
(ETA: I just realized I can even associate Eugenie with an actual cause she cares about, which is more than we can say for Kate. I loved how she purposely wore a wedding dress that showed the scar from her scoliosis surgery, in an attempt to destigmatize it. Kate would NEVER.)
His other option is Sophie, and while I’m sure she’s nice, the public just does not care about her in the least; they’ve shown this for decades. Kate is a joke, and I hope they’re all smart enough to leave Louise out of all of the Royal nonsense and let her just be a teenager in peace. Charles is really up sh!t’s creek without a paddle at this point.
If Charles is glad it’s because he’s tired all around and could care less about the monarchy. He knows royalty is obsolete. He probably only wants it because he’s been waiting FOREVER to be king but left up to him he’d be wandering the gardens somewhere instead of dealing with this stuff. Plus Bill is sh*tty and might treat him bad out of spite. The senior royals all look absolutely miserable, except Anne and Edward, even Fiesta looks miserable with a fake smile.
So next week when Jobson or Lacey writes an article on how essential it is for Harry return to support the monarchy we should just ignore it then? I thought those two were the more “credible” royal “experts”? I wonder if this article came from William’s camp? Harry and Meghan should wash their hands of this bunch once the queen passes away. And I don’t think Harry should go back for that publicity stunt statue either. If William really wanted to honor his mother, he wouldn’t be treating his brother like shit.
Wow, really father of the frickin’ century Chuck.
He almost rivals some of those royals who executed their kids seriously
So Harry, who has lived as a royal from birth, didn’t “understand how things work”? Bull.
Harry knew exactly how things work. What he didn’t understand is why things suddenly worked differently for his biracial wife. When he realized it was racism, he was “kicking off” against the racist crap to get Meghan equal treatment. It didn’t happen, so he left with her.
What they’re saying with this article is it’s much calmer without the Sussexes demanding equality. They’re happy the black woman isn’t bitching anymore.
Lol! William is going to make his life a living hell. Serves him right.
There is already lots of talk about Charles having a ‘soft regency’ with William as the face of the monarchy. So Charles will have waited his whole life, driven away one wife and one son because they overshadowed him…only to end up being shoved in the corner all the same. And William isn’t going to be happy with a shared Kingship with rules dictated by his father.
If Harry and Meghan were still around, they could be used as a buffer of support (by either party). But no, Charles isn’t smart enough to understand the soft power of keeping them in the fold.
In a few years, Harry & Meghan are going to be happily going about their lives while the tabloids have a field day covering gossip about Charles & William and their battling egos.
For people who seem to go on and on about how they go “quietly” about their duties, they sure make a lot of noise about Harry and Meghan not being there. It seems like it’s the Sussexes who are the ones who’ve just gotten on with it. For all the BRF complaints, they were quite content with Meghan being constantly attacked and undermined, but pissed off that their work still shone through and they got all the press attention. However ,they certainly didn’t mind the increased attention and relevance the “ dramatic” Sussexes brought to the rest of them. Charles is at retirement age and should be playing golf, gardening, and unveiling plaques. What exactly does he think he’ll be doing that will garner him worldwide attention at this stage in life, other than being coronated and dying? As for William, his main motivation right now is attacking the Sussexes and leapfrogging to the Crown he thinks he’s more qualified to wear than his father. If they’re happy the Sussexes are gone, it just took them a whole year and a funeral to realize this, and they celebrate by throwing a pity party and reshuffling the deck chairs.
I am sure that someone has said this at some point, so forgive me if I am late to the party on this one, but what of Charles’s streamlined monarchy? Why would they kick up such a fuss when H&M announced their stepping back when he has quite rightly wanted fewer royals on the payroll? And don’t get me started about the Waleses and the Cambridges never being able to take the high road in any circumstance or situation. So the tabloids pick up Charles being happy that H&M are not around. Why was there no leak about Charles being happy that his son came home. As a mother, I cannot even wrap my head around this behavior. If I were H&M, I would be like…”okay, message received. We’ll stay in LA–forever.”
So, Charles is still trying to change the narrative. What a Dad!!
Yes Charles is petty and jealous….
Diana said herself: “With the media attention came a lot of jealousy; a great deal of complicated situations arose because of that.”
Imaging telling a struggling patronage that you can’t lift a finger to help them until people sufficiently care enough about Charles to pay him attention, until TOB is finished pruning rose bushes or until Kate puts out another 5 question survey 8 years from now and is done paying with the Excel pie chart function.
No wonder some of these patronage’s for out of business.
Oh so now Harry didn’t understand the way things worked in the royal family when he’s been a part of it his whole f****** life. Piss off Charles.
“One of the main issues with Harry and Meghan when they were part of the working family was their inability to understand how things worked. It’s been a lot simpler without them kicking off over why they couldn’t just do what they wanted. Things are a lot calmer.”
As someone who’s been with her company for nearly 30 years and dealt with newcomers who want to change everything the minute they cross the threshold, I do understand the impulse. HOWEVER, over the years I’ve learned to be less rigid and more open to new ideas. A healthy organization audits their policies and procedures on a regular basis. “This is the way we’ve always done it” isn’t a valid reason for keeping the status quo. If an idea doesn’t sit right with me, I try to focus my questions on the process rather than the idea itself: Have you talked to all the stakeholders; what do they think? How will this affect (related process)? How will we implement/communicate this change? I don’t want to shoot down ideas in knee-jerk fashion and make people feel discouraged and hemmed in. The fact that the BRF is “relieved” that H&M aren’t around to challenge their way of doing things just underscores how out-of-touch and dysfunctional they are.
The tampon of wales isn’t fit to call himself a father. Diana tried to warn us about this man.
They left because they DID understand how things work. Things are a lot calmer for them as well.
Chucky and baldy and company can’t take on anymore work because haz and Megs left. So therefore Kevin and Karen are stress, so stress that they need to move to the country and spend a few months thinking of what they need to do, all on the tax payers dime. While dimwits aka brits continue to pay for these people to think . Karen and Kevin are working on their backhand on their new tennis court. You know the one that Chucky had money for but still couldn’t find any for Meg so therefore she should look to return to work.
How is Chucky a father, or. Grandfather, he is cold as ice. It’s all about the crown and the heir to it. Hope it brings him joy at night because he is getting no younger and you can’t take it with you.
Chucky should try to remember that he is still on The Who made the comment list, so saying that you are happy that the black woman and her child left , only makes you look even more guilty. Even though it was willyleaks
Things sure don’t look calmer from the outside. It all looks like a big ratchet mess to me.
I think Charles was flabbergasted, overwhelmed and jealous as hell that the couple wanted to do any work (unlike the other son) and SHINED. My God, was Harry the new Diana? What to do? Smear them, refuse them, get them killed? Charles can go suck it. There are many people who would value, love and appreciate if their son (or wife) excelled. This asshole puts them on a hit list. A modern version of his bloodthirsty ancestors.
Imagine telling (allowing?) a media outlet that your life is easier because your son, daughter in law and grandchildren are not around you? What a gross family.
It’s calmer for the courtiers becuase they are dunces and failures and that was exposed by Meghan and Harry.
The family is a miserable lot no matter that they have more than 99.99 of the rest of us, thier only hobby is self-pity.
Good for Harry for living a happy life, he seems to be the only one in the entire family.
Ok, this is my own weird theory. Obviously this whole thing had me researching about Edward VII and Wallis’s exile to France after the abdication.
So, the dates are wrong because they weren’t contemporaries BUT I am convinced that Edith Piaf wrote « Milord » about the former King.
Someone else listen to that amazing song and let me know if it’s good fan fiction or Daily Mail-esque.
It’s a lot calmer bc when the Sussexes were around, they expected Charles to step up and not behave like a coward when it came to defending their interests. But Charles is much more interested in not doing that at all if possible, and I imagine he’s quite relieved as a result of that.
Imagine living a life of such privilege, yet being so consumed with petty grievances. I read that Charles was still complaining-at age 60-about being sent to Gordonstoun-at age 10!!!.
Imagine having a father who is happy you are gone? Must be heartbreaking.
@Lizzie “It’s calmer for the courtiers becuase they are dunces and failures and that was exposed by Meghan and Harry.” True Lizzie! And, they have 2 less people to follow/slink around the shadows and try to eavesdrop on – then report to W & K on H & M’s daily movements.
I feel terrible for Harry and Meghan. No one should have to deal with this weakness.