DM: Archie Mountbatten Windsor has met Prince Charles ‘only twice since he was born’

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Rebecca English at the Daily Mail has some piping hot royal tea about little Archie Mountbatten Windsor’s second birthday. On Archie’s birthday – May 6th – Clarence House, Kensington Palace and Buckingham Palace all wished Archie a happy birthday on their social media accounts. It was particularly notable in Prince Charles’ case because the Clarence House social media team had not noted Princess Charlotte or Prince Louis’s birthdays days earlier. Archie’s birthday wishes were also notable because none of the palaces used recent photos of Archie. Becky English says that’s because the Windsors haven’t seen Archie since his christening, basically.

No new photos: Behind the scenes, however, palace officials found themselves in an uncomfortable position after finding they didn’t have an up-to-date picture of Harry and Meghan’s son to accompany their posts. In the end they were forced to use press photos taken just after he was born and from his official christening pictures, highlighting just how little he has seen of his British family.

The Windsors have barely seen Archie in real life: In fact, the Daily Mail understands, the toddler – who now speaks with a distinct American accent – has seen his grandfather, the Prince of Wales, only twice since he was born. It is understood the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge can also count their meetings with him ‘easily on one hand’. And such is the rift between Harry and William that it is believed Archie may sadly have met his Cambridge cousins – Prince George, seven, Princess Charlotte, six, and three-year-old Prince Louis – just the once.

A sad situation: A source said: ‘The truth is the Prince of Wales has barely seen his grandson twice since he was born. In fact every member of Harry’s family can easily count on one hand the number of times they saw Archie after he was born and before the family left the UK. It’s a very sad situation.’

LOL Harry & Meghan were over it by the summer of 2019: The Sussexes rarely left their Windsor home in the months after Archie’s birth, apart from taking two holidays by private jet to Ibiza and then to the south of France, where they were guests of Sir Elton John. They refused to join the Royal Family on their annual holiday to Scotland, then in November decamped to Canada before settling in California, where they bought an £11million mansion.

It’s no one’s fault: Sources are at pains to stress they understand that this is not anyone’s fault, not least the Sussexes. Harry had planned, initially, to travel back to the UK once a month or so. Instead the Queen and other senior family members have had to comfort themselves with occasional video calls. This is perhaps why the gesture by the three royal households – Buckingham Palace, Clarence House and Kensington Palace – in wishing Archie a happy birthday was so significant. Indeed, as Archie is the child of non-working royals, there was no reason to publicly acknowledge his birthday.

The nurturing Windsors: A source explained: ‘The fact Buckingham Palace and the other royal households posted something so publicly when they are no longer working royals is clearly a sign every effort is being made, on their behalf at least, to try and retain and nurture a relationship with Harry and Meghan, however fragile.’

[From The Daily Mail]

The reason why the palaces publicly wished Archie a happy birthday was because it would have looked completely terrible if they had not done that. Because Harry and Meghan outed the Windsors as a bunch of contemptible racists, liars and rageaholic Karens. Harry and Meghan were under no obligation – and they still aren’t – to nurture relationships with these unhinged a–holes. Charles cared so little for his son’s wellbeing and his grandson’s wellbeing that he stopped taking Harry’s calls and pulled their security. Are those the actions of a loving father and grandfather? Is Meghan under the obligation to force William and Kate to spend time with their nephew after they orchestrated a massive smear campaign against her during her pregnancy and beyond? Screw that.

And nothing makes salty British peeps more upset than the thought of a baby with an American accent, apparently. What in the world??

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  1. Alexandria says:

    Blablabla what’s the point. Let it go!

    It’s very simple. If you want to meet Harry or Archie, apologize and acknowledge the racism first. Sincerely. It’s so simple but that would be the hardest thing the Windsors have to do in their entire life. The deadbeat dad allegedly can’t even put toothpaste on his toothbrush. You’re all stupid. Yeah read this, new social media managers / fixers.

    You took public and private security away from the heir’s son while he was trying to save his wife and get on his feet. You took the option of him dead. Why the heck would they trust you with the grandson? Crazy people.

    • Moxylady says:

      There is nothing wrong with setting boundaries with toxic family members. Also – more than half of Archie’s life has been spent in a global pandemic. Lots of very healthy grandparent / grandchild relationships have had to transition from in person to zoom. Why would they be any different?

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Happy birthday Archie I am TOG (the other grandfather), you know, the one whose courtiers told your parents the rules will be changed when I become king to deny you a title and the protection that comes with it and oh I also pulled your security and leaked your location when your parents fled to Canada to the press. But I’m the nice grandparent, dammit.
      And besides all this I let the rest of my family and the UK press have full reign when it came to smearing and telling lies against your mother in particular and also your father.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      PS I am seeing a pattern here. He also complained of not seeing his other grandchildren a few years back. What is it, I wonder, about the other grandfather that makes his sons keep their children away?

    • Madelaine says:

      @Alexandria: Right. The Sussexes could have forgiven Charles, William and Catherine almost everything, but actively denying a newborn his rightful birth title and security makes Charles guilty as charged of child endangerment. He is lucky to have been granted permission to approach the baby twice, which is two times too many, in my opinion.

      • Laugh or Cry says:

        To approve of the lies and smear campaign/torture of his mother, leak his location and remove security, was straight up criminal. If his lackeys read this site, you can tell Chuckie Cheese, his actions towards Harry’s family is a living testimony of the purposeful torment he inflicted upon his mother. @Elizabeth Regina, you are on to something…

    • The Other Katherine says:

      Alexandria, you are exactly right. The son of the man who could become UK head of state at any time, given QEII is 95, is a HUGE target for kidnapping and politically motivated violence, and so is his family. Pulling their security was deplorable, and only people who cared more about getting their way than about the well-being of their own family members would have done it. Really just abhorrent.

  2. Aurora says:

    Archie is going to be a teenager and the RF will still be wishing him a happy birthday with those christening photos.

  3. Becks1 says:

    Well if they took Archie to canada in November-ish 2019 then it leaves a very narrow window for the royals to have spent time with him, and we’ve all speculated that by the summer relations between Harry and his family were pretty sour – consider that was when Harry was getting slammed for his private plane usage and William coordinated the budget plane stunt, the obviously tense polo match, etc. I think it’s less clear when things became tense between Harry and his father, but if I’m remembering the interview correctly, Harry was talking about how he was trying to reach his father during the summer and fall, right?

    Anyway all that to say that if there is truth to this, the royals have no one to blame but themselves and they shouldn’t have treated Archie’s mother like she was worth less because of her race.

    • Cecilia says:

      He was trying to reach him when they were in Canada. So that was November/December? And seeing how harry described being disappointed with charles because “he has been through this” i think relationships with his dad soured probably before that. I think harry sort of blames him for not coming to their aide and standing up to them.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        As he should blame Charles, and TQ for that matter! No one lifted a finger to stop the hateful attack on Meghan and they could have placed a few phone calls and they would have stopped. But instead, they refused to intervene as Meghan was a super threat to the popularity of the entire family and they wouldn’t stand for it, so they drove both Meghan, Archie and Harry to the welcoming US. The RF can all eat a big d@ck for how they treated Meghan, as well as the royal rats treated and continue to treat her.

    • Louise177 says:

      It’s annoying that they are making it sound like Meghan and Harry were keeping Archie away from the family. If they wanted to see him more they had at least six months to do so. I doubt there was any effort.

      • Yvette says:

        @Louise177 … Exactly. Didn’t it take William and Kate 7 or 8 days to go visit Archie after his birth? That was on them, not Harry and Meghan, and it was very telling as it involved ‘rage animal’ William.

    • Chica says:

      Nah Becks. Archie was not the first week of May. They didn’t leave the country until August to visit Elton and George and Amal. The family all had time to show interest in speaking time with Archie before they left in November. They were not checking for him. They should not pretend to check for him now.

  4. atorontogal says:

    I’ve only seen my g-babies twice in the past year, and they live 20 minutes away! I’m not sure why the RRs go on about Chuckie not seeing Archie…even if they lived closer he wouldn’t bother. I mean, how often did he see his son’s while they were growing up?

    • equality says:

      I’m curious how often he sees the Cambridge children also. He just reposted the pictures that Kate took for their birthdays.

      • ennie says:

        Remember how there was some hoopla about Charles complaining that the did not see the Cambridge children/his direct heirs enough? Willy and him are probably very alike, and it is convenient to see them together, and even then he would not arrange his kids to see Charles more often.
        He is the freaking Prince of Wales, I think he did not make it easy for Harry to see him, claiming to be very busy. I can’t see the tabloids being in the right in any way here.
        You will know and see more about the C children, make that sure, but not with outings, but more pics taken by their mother.

      • Nic919 says:

        Up until Meghan arrived there were plenty of stories where Charles complained about not seeing the Cambridge kids very much and that Carole was there all the time.

        It’s doubtful that Charles sees the Cambridge kids that much currently, especially with the restrictions due to the pandemic.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        Last pic I remember of Charles together with all his grands was the one taken when they were sitting on THE BENCH (HOW ironic!! lol) in his garden for his birthday (Meg was newly pregnant with Archie, wearing that gorgeous cream/navy sheath dress).

  5. Cecilia says:

    I wish they hadn’t wished him a happy birthday to be honest. How Clarence House left the comments open while having them closed on every other posts hasn’t gone unnoticed. And if wishing your grandson a happy birthday is making an effort then i would say he’s doing the bare minimum.

    • Alexandria says:

      Right? We all know no royal posted those pictures and messages. Done by minions.

      • Cecilia says:

        Done by petty courtiers. The very same ones who didn’t allow meghan to get hospitalized. Lmao if it was up to them archie wouldn’t be on this earth.

    • Yup, Me says:

      Exactly.

      They only posted because they are so fixated on appearances that they are trying to siphon good press from a baby’s birthday celebrations.

      What a disgusting “family”. They’re a bunch of sand tiger sharks and all their fancy palaces are just the womb where they devour each other.

    • equality says:

      It’s hard to not see the move as PR for the RF and not any concern for H&M or Archie. They have to leave the comments open so their fans and paid posters can say how they are wonderful and being the bigger person, etc.

    • Exactly CECILIA. Wishing a 2 year old Happy Birthday on a public media account says more about your PR than it does about loving the child. Or perhaps they all think Archie is logging on and reading this BS. AND, as always KAISER……spot on with your summation. I totally agree.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      @Cecilia – Which Clarence House site had comments? I could not find it.

  6. BlueSky says:

    “In fact, the Daily Mail understands, the toddler – who now speaks with a distinct American accent – has seen his grandfather, the Prince of Wales, only twice since he was born.” Um, this sentence makes no sense. If you’ve not seen or spoken to your grandson/nephew, how do you know????? “An American accent” how gauche! 🙄🙄

    • The Hench says:

      Exactly! And he’s TWO!!! He might be getting out a few words but he’s unlikely to be cruising into the room going “Howdy y’all. How youse b*tches doin’?”* or whatever it is those nutters over at the DM imagine he might be saying.

      *Other American phrases are available.

      • Miranda says:

        It’s the DM. They wholeheartedly believe that Archie speaks only in early ’90s gangsta rap lyrics. I think we need to watch how Meghan dresses him, the colors might indicate exactly which gang he’s in! (That’s how it works, right? White people sign their kids up for fancy preschools while they’re still in the womb, and Black people sign their kids up for gangs? /s)

      • Jan says:

        Drive Safely.
        Hydrate.
        Crocodile.
        Happy New Year.
        He is saying more than a few words.
        And he sings also.

      • Winter Day says:

        Lol… Distinct American Accent = Destained for anything American. Good Lord, DM and their readers are a bunch of backward thinking fools.

      • Cate says:

        I found this crazy also. I’m American and my husband is British. We live in the US and by the time our son was born my husband had been here 10 years, so his accent had definitely softened. Despite that, when he was learning to talk, my son had a distinct British pronunciation on a LOT of words. My husband was the only British accent he was hearing regularly (we video call with grandparents about once a month), he was in daycare FT with American staff starting at 6 months, and he still had something of a British accent. When we did visit with grandparents they commented that they were surprised he didn’t have a more “American” accent. So unless Harry is consciously working on dropping HIS accent, my guess is that at this point in time Archie’s “accent” is mixed, NOT “distinctly American”

      • North of Boston says:

        Didn’t Archie kind of have Harry’s accent in that “happy new year giggle giggle “ audio clip?

      • Vera says:

        exactly, he is 2. how much does he even speak, let alone clear enough to say it’s an american accent? it’s the daily hate doing what they always do.
        Making shit up to enrage the gammons

    • Lolo says:

      The RRs know that Archie has an American accent because they listened to the Archewell Christmas Special.

      • Cecilia says:

        I was just about to say this. It probably from the archewell audio that they’ve been able to figure that out. But that boy is 2 and has spend most of his young life in North America. Of course he’s going to have an American accent. Not exactly rocket science

      • Ann says:

        Is that the one where he said “Happy New Year?” Because I thought he definitely had a bit of an English accent in that one, especially the way he said “new.”

    • Amy Bee says:

      @blue sky: Becky listened to the podcast in fact Archie’s accent was the first thing she commented on.

    • L84Tea says:

      That irked me too. First of all, you losers don’t know what kind of accent Archie has. From the tiny snippet we have heard of his voice, he sounded rather British to me. But sure, go ahead and assume he’s speaking in some gauche, uncultured American accent. Idiots.

      I am grumpy this morning…

      • BlueSky says:

        @L84tea I’m not about to argue with people on this thread about this. The way the article is worded indicates someone heard him recently not from a few snippets from a podcast. I would think they would have said “from the podcast he seems to have an American accent” but they didn’t. Just from that quote I feel they are making the assumption that NOW he speaks with an American accent. I’m grumpy too so don’t feel bad.

      • L84Tea says:

        Exactly, I feel like they are just making assumptions because we all know they have zero inside access to Archie. I found the article’s very decisive declaration about his accent really annoying for some reason. Like I want to stand in front of Archie and shield him from those monsters over there.

    • Chris. says:

      That’s tell me that there is not even a Zoom relationship between Archie and his grandfather. It is Charles ‘fault. I remember he did not rush to see Archie when he was born, same for the Cambridge’s. I thought it was odd. I could see when the Cambridge’s were at the Polo Match with Meghan and baby Archie, they did not know each other. They had absolutely no connection. I thought it was odd. Any aunt would have rush toward her sister in law, and would have been holding her new nephew for a minute. The Cambridge’s kids stay as far away as possible from Meghan and the baby. That was strange. So this report does not surprise me.
      The RF did it to itself! They did not realized that the Sussex’s would upstage the whole island from across the pond . They had to post a pic, because the world is more interested in Archie than the Cambridge’s kid. The RF did not have a choice, cause they know the world knows they are racists. The RF is going to post those baby pics until Archie turns 18!

    • ennie says:

      He would be speaking with an american accent regardless if they were in the UK, anyway. His mother is American, of course he would have an American accent.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        ennie, I find the whole “American Accent” very amusing! Uh, let’s see. He’s an American citizen living in the US. He’s not the one with the accent. HARRY has the accent. Ask any American. Next thing you know, they’ll be referring to him as a colonial because he’s American. That’s always happening on SM when some Brits get their panties in a twist–or knickers in a knot. For some reason, they think this clenches any argument. I’m white, so when I first saw this I thought that they really needed to go back and learn some history, however, a second thought made me wonder what’s the message they’re sending POCs in this and other countries? I wonder if they realize what a horrible message they’re telling the world with that? It’s clearly supposed to show their superiority.

      • HeatherC says:

        What KIND of American accent? We have all different types! Just in New York there are different accents/inflections. Then there’s the south, southwest, northwest, midwest….Are they assuming the Cambridge kids will speak with Kate’s nonsensical marble mouthed accent?

  7. Jess says:

    if charles want to see archie so bad, HE can take a plane and visit. Fuck this family.

  8. S808 says:

    The Queen has likely seen Archie more than Charles……

    Ehh, Archie has a wonderful grandparent with him in California and I’m glad Charles can’t use him to play “loving grandpa” while leaking stories about him and his parents to the press.

    • Cecilia says:

      The thought of doria playing with her grandson makes me ridiculously happy!

      • BothSidesNow says:

        I am certain that it makes Doria extremely happy as well!!

      • Miranda says:

        I grew up with only one grandparent, my paternal step-grandmother, because my dad’s father and mother were long dead by the time I was born, and my maternal grandparents wanted nothing to do with me because I was born out of wedlock. My step-grandma absolutely spoiled the hell out of me, and now I realize it was probably because she knew I needed extra love and was trying to fill in for my other 4 grandparents who couldn’t or wouldn’t be there for me. I hope very much that Doria will be that kind of grandma for Archie and his soon-to-be baby sister. I think she will be.

      • Bellah says:

        @Miranda ❤️
        Family by choice. True love.

  9. wendywoo says:

    Charles is exactly what Diana and The Crown said he was – a covert narcissist.
    At no point could he, nor can he, let anyone else have the spotlight or- god forbid – be shown unconditional love. There is no excuse for any grandparent in the same hemisphere as their grandchild and not make efforts to see them.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Agree 100%. Charles doesn’t see Archie because he isn’t a very nice or good person. He threw his son and grandson to the wolves and sent the press after his daughter in-law knowing she was suffering under the strain. He deserves to be exactly where his is…alone in his castle ….

    • February-Pisces says:

      Diana herself said in the few months before harry was born she and Charles were the closest they had ever been. But as soon as harry was born and he was a boy with ginger hair he complained because he wanted a girl and that was pretty much the beginning of the end. I can’t imagine the sort of man who would look at their newborn baby and be disappointed.

  10. Lizzie says:

    If you had asked me how many times Charles had seen Archie I would have said 2 or 3. I’m not sure if this is supposed to be big news or just an excuse to write about the Sussex family. Charles has never been interested in spending time with children. If he wants to see Archie he could fly to California, but he wont. He couldn’t wait 24 hours after his fathers funeral to leave for Wales.

    • TigerMcQueen says:

      It’s an excuse to write about H&M. 1) Charles isn’t a cuddly grandpa who spends loads and loads of time with his grandkids. I doubt he’s gone out of his way to see the Keen’s kids and mostly sees them during official family outings and holidays where everyone is kind of mandated because of ‘tradition’ to attend (Christmas, summer at Balmoral). It’s not like he pops round to tea an Anmer all the time. 2) Archie has lived through a freaking global pandemic for most of his life and his parents live on a different continent than his grandpa does. So this ‘story’ is stupid.

      • Bex says:

        However, he is good with Camilla’s grandkids. She said this in a documentary from around her 70th birthday.

      • Tessa says:

        I don’t think he spends much time with Camilla’s grandchildren. If he liked being with them, Camilla would not have had to retreat to Raymill to be with them. THey also have a grandfather, Andrew Parker Bowles.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “Charles has never been interested in spending time with children.”

      Which is one of the reason given for Camilla maintaining her private home after marriage to Charles. Camilla wanted her own place where she could entertain her children and grandchildren as she saw fit.

  11. Bros says:

    The daily mail is so gross. I was reading their recap of megans vax statement and all they did was talk about each item of clothing she had on and how much each thing cost, from her dress, to her watch (which was diana’s), bracelet, another watch that she owns and bought herself when Suits was picked up for season 2 but didnt have on (how dare she have expensive things) to her home cost and literally everything she had on or around her was detailed by cost only. They are obsessed with trying to make her look like a black rags to riches undeserving of any of her finery as possible. They never ever treat Kate as a collection of price tags this way, because she apparently is absolutely entitled to everything she has, at tax payers’ expense.

    • swirlmamad says:

      It’s so sickening because the British culture as a whole loves to play at being so open-minded and not obsessed with race as we Americans are, yet they are SO f*cking racist. Slapping a posh accent on it doesn’t make it any more palatable.

      • lanne says:

        The entire culture is built on inequality and birth privilege. Racism is built on systemic inequality. The UK colonized half the world and created concentration camps, enlarged chattel slavery, contributed to apartheid. One of their most noteworthy writers wrote a poem about the White Man’s Burden to “civilize the savages”. But no racism in the UK! Nope, none here! Because the white folks said so, and they said so emphatically!

        The UK is a full generation behind the US in terms of reckoning with systemic racism, and we’re not doing that great of a job in the US. The British upper classes are absolutely obsessed with race: they can’t stand the idea that a person can build wealth based on talent and drive and intelligence instead of merely inheriting it. They especially can’t stand that a person “from the colonies” can make money. That’s the root of their money policing POCs. In their eyes, Meghan shouldn’t be doing anything in a palace other than cleaning it or serving as a bed wench for some “daring” aristo-dude. The fact that she has her own damn palace paid for with her and Harry’s own money makes these racists stomp and spit.

      • swirlmamad says:

        EXACTLY. When the US is doing a better job than you when it comes to acknowledging and facing inequity and racism, you are DEFINITELY doing it wrong.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @lanne – How does the UK upper class “handle” people like James Dyson and Richard Branson?

      • lanne says:

        easy @BTB: 1) they aren’t really considered “upper class” and 2) they’re white. If white men without pedigrees aren’t “members of the club” and are side-eyed by the aristo class, then you know POCs aren’t welcome. A broke-ass aristocrat nth Duke/Marquess/Earl of Something has higher social status than Richard Branson. Branson and Dyson work for a living. I imagine the billionaire class in the UK could supply sons and daughters for the aristo class today just as the gilded age Americans provided the funds to shore up the Old Pile in the 19th/early 20th century. And be treated with the same disdain. The Marchioness of Bath (only biracial titled lady) has a Nigerian billionaire for a father, and her husbands parents never accepted her/didn’t attend the wedding.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        @ianne – I will take the Yank system of class over the British class system any day of the week.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        lanne, I agree with you completely about the average understanding of racism and how it intersects with class privilege and other forms of privilege in the UK being a full generation behind where things stand in the US. The only reason why it’s possible for the UK to think of itself as less racist is that its population is less diverse, and has been so for the entire history of both countries, so the average white Brit spends less time interacting with non-white people and ever needing to reflect on differences in privilege and outlook. Having lived in both places, my impression is that US racism is more frequently overt and violent (which is not to say that there isn’t overt racist violence in the UK, because there definitely is), but that there is a lower percentage of the white population in the UK who have ever really taken a look at their own privilege and critically interrogated their own internal biases about race. LOTS of racism to go around.

  12. Lauren says:

    Well if they had wanted to see more of Archie he was in the UK for months after he was born. If Harry’s family never made an effort that is on them. They can’t come out now moaning and whining about how they have seen him so little. Chuck has other grandkids and Bill as he said already has a nephew. They can kindly eff off and deal with their all-white relations and not with the child that they were gleefully trying to take his rightful inheritance by changing family laws just because of him.

    • swirlmamad says:

      The funny thing is I’m sure he ain’t seeing William’s kids all that much either since it’s been said many times that Will does not give him all that much access. Charles is still messy as f*ck when it comes to parenting/grandparenting and actually caring about someone aside from himself — nothing has changed since Harry and William were young.

    • equality says:

      I wonder if W&K see their other nephew that much either. Even before the pandemic, were there articles about them hanging out with Pippa’s family or the children meeting their cousin?

      • swirlmamad says:

        I am sure Kate sees her nephew/niece plenty. Will, on the other hand, seems to have trouble finding the time to spend with his own kids (coming from his own mouth) so I doubt he’s seeing Pippa’s kids all that often.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        I doubt W&K will see much of August Brooksbank either.

  13. Sofia says:

    Archie was only in the UK for about 6 months and there’s been a pandemic for about half his life so it’s understandable that Charles hasn’t seen him a lot.

    But again, he was there for 6 months. I know Charles is busy but I’m sure he could have made some effort to see his grandson even if it’s once every 3 weeks or something. Or not fucked up his (and this goes for mostly everyone in the family) relationship with his grandson’s father and mother. Either works.

    • swirlmamad says:

      If he wanted to see Archie he would make the time. As it goes for all of us, you find the time to do the things you want to do, and for the things you don’t….well, it’s pretty easy to find and make excuses when you need to.

  14. aquarius64 says:

    Huh Archie would have a British accent if the Firm and the Windsors didn’t drive his parents out of the UK. YOUR FAULT WINDSORS.

    • Winter Day says:

      The whole distinct American accent statement just rubs me the wrong way.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Which is EXACTLY what the Daily Fail intended to do: rub Yanks the wrong way.

      • heygingersnaps says:

        Speaking from my experience as a foreigner living in the uk, when people comment about how you got an American accent, it’s not a compliment. I used to work in a car dealership’s service department and the number of customers who were commenting about the “American woman” that they spoke to is laughable. I’m not even American and I don’t really consider myself to have an American accent but it’s probably the terms that they didn’t like such “parking lot/car park”, “elevator/lift.”
        My son’s paternal grandmother (snob that she is) still keeps trying to get me to this day to change how I pronounce words to be more british than American as it’s “terribly gauche.” I wish I can politely tell her to go mind her own business.

      • Merricat says:

        I’d rather say what I please in my American accent than a muzzled mumble that some people think is posh.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        BTB, the people behind the Fail knows that we hold it in contempt, right? I suspect they should tip toe, because you don’t want to p*ss off an entire country of people. That wouldn’t be pretty.

  15. Woke says:

    For me the security thing is still confusing. It’s not the fact he pulled the security that upst me the most, it’s that he did it with short notice. He could have called Harry and said look the security is going to be pulled in 10 days, giving him the time to make arrangements.

    • Cecilia says:

      It is weird especially since harry and the rest of the windsor clan agreed on a 1 year grace period. Remember how royal rota were going on about that one year review? Why would you pull your sons security without giving him the time to prepare for it? I think more is needed than 10 days.

      • Woke says:

        Yes, it’s sound like Harry and him agreed on one thing. Then he did the opposite and that’s what upset Harry the most.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Please correct me if I am wrong as I do not remember the timeline; Did not Canada end their government security of the Sussexes on 31 March 2021, the last day on which the Sussexes were considered Senior Working Royals. If this is true, did Charles ever pay for any Sussex security?

    • Sofia says:

      Yeah I think Charles should have paid for it for a short amount of time. Something like 3 months or so while Harry makes alternate arrangements but also phase out the security because going from 100 to 0 for Harry (who’s had it all his life) in terms of security is a lot and very difficult to adjust to – and that’s not even taking into consideration the amount of threats him, Meghan and Archie face.

      • Cecilia says:

        @sofia i just think that agreeing on a “grace period” to allow the sussexes to figure out the financial independence they wanted to accomplish, and then pulling their security all of a sudden, while that independence hasn’t been reached yet, is very snakey.

    • Sue Denim says:

      pulling security, if I were Harry, would be the absolute deal breaker to any meaningful reconciliation. I think it sends a message that Charles would actually have been ok w them all dead… Harsh and maybe crazy to say, but that feels like the message. “We’re going to let the media blare awful things about you, rally the loonies against you, send you off out in the world to fend for yourselves w baby, then when you’re most vulnerable, we’ll pull security.” Esp in light of what happened to Diana, I just think this is the part that’s not forgivable…

      • Jais says:

        Also, their location in Canada was leaked at that time, which makes it all the more evil. I assume that had to be leaked by Charles or William?

      • Sue Denim says:

        I forgot about that Jais, makes it all even worse…

      • Oh says:

        It was leaked by Bulliam, there was a press briefing at KP on December 2019, Rebecca English knew that they were in Canada and leaked their location.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Yep. I can’t get past that either. He wanted to terrorize them into coming back, and was fine with them getting hurt if that had happened.

      • BayTampaBay says:

        Again, I have to ask: Was Charles ever paying for any Sussex security outside of the UK or is this just another myth circulated and promoted by Chucky III and Clarence House?

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        BTB, I think I remember that when a family member went to another country then that country would pony up protection–in Canada that would be the Mounties (I always think of the Mounties on horses–not true, of course). I also remember that there were RPOs there. That makes sense to me, because the RPOs were probably closer in proximity to the family member(s) and the other security for the perimeter? I don’t know anything about security so it’ a bit of a mystery, however, it was costing the Canadian government and once they were no longer working royals that government didn’t really have a way of justifying this cost to it citizens. So, PC would have had to start paying for the non working royals (?) security after the end of March. Does that match what others here remember?

    • Plums says:

      my conspiracy theory is that it was a gambit to force them back to the UK immediately that just backfired. Both the total pullback of all security and leaking their location in Canada, just as all these countries were entering pandemic lockdowns. It didn’t work because they weren’t counting on friends stepping in to help where family failed them. I still can’t get over Tyler Perry offering his home and security team for months while they figured out their next steps. And if it wasn’t Tyler Perry, it probably would have been another Hollywood connection.

  16. Harper says:

    Can you imagine the rolled eyes and resistance that the Royals gave their crisis managers when they said they should post birthday wishes to Archie? And now they will have to acknowledge the birth of Baby Girl Sussex as well. None of this is authentic because Charles and William are still angry at heart at Harry and know that their old tricks won’t work on him anymore. In fact, this acknowledging Archie’s birthday is for the public and for their own images; there is not goodwill behind it.

  17. Myra says:

    I wouldn’t bring my child around racists either so it’s telling that the queen has seen Archie far more than Charles and William. I bet you it’s their own fault, too. Before being outed, they never made the effort because they were being racist towards Archie. After they’ve been outed, they are scrambling to “appear” inclusive. They only care about the optics.

    • lanne says:

      The UK is not a safe place for Archie or baby Sussex to be. The royal family are not safe people for those babies to be around. I’ve said this before, but that scene in Downton Abbey where Cora walks in on the nanny verbally abusing Sybil’s daughter and praising Mary’s son is exactly what I think would happen to young Archie and New Baby had they stayed. Who knows what comments the courtiers would have whispered to those kids, or even what may have been said openly to them or around them by family members? It would have been micro and macroagression city over there.

      family member: Archie’s looking rather brown to day isn’t he? We should keep him out of the sun! Oh, it was a joke, har har har. I didn’t mean it Archie, old chap!

      F that with a chainsaw. No kid deserves that.

  18. Jan says:

    Archie is not missing what he never had. He speaks with an American accent “D’oh” wait until he starts his Spanish class.
    Meghan sure had a busy Mother’s Day, donating 200 beanie hats for Archie’s birthday, from the knitting co-op in New Zealand.
    Joining with Proctor & Gamble to donate to a place in California that helps pregnant women with no support.

  19. ThatgirlThere says:

    Shutter Island is disgusting. I’m glad that Harry, Meghan, baby Archie and baby girl on the way are away from them and thriving. What a hateful, jealous and racist lot.

    And all the cosplaying dressing that Keen is doing of Meghan is disturbing.

  20. Snuffles says:

    This article actually isn’t about how little Charles or the rest of the family has seen Archie. It’s a covert complaint from the British media only has 2 official photos of Archie. His introduction and his christening.

    The next clear view of him is from his 1st birthday video which they can’t profit from because none of their photographers took the video. And any pap pic is unauthorized and the agencies get sued into bankruptcy.

    This is just them using Charles to whine.

    • S808 says:

      It bring me great joy that all they got on his birthday was a photo of his back.

    • mariahlee says:

      So wild to me that they feel entitled to see a child that from the womb, the Firm decided was not going to be titled or receive protections. That’s one of the things that really pissed me off in the interview. They knew Archie wasn’t protected, yet still let the press make demands about seeing him under the guise of “taxpayers”.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Snuffles think you are right. This is also the media venting they only have limited photos of Archie to use. And typically of the fail- article might not be right. Archie was meant to be backstage at Trooping in 2019 so would be surprised if Charles didn’t see him then. So that’s at least three times he’s seen Archie

    • TheOriginalMia says:

      @Snuffles, I agree this is the tabloids whining about their lack of access to Archie. They want pictures of him. They want to hear him speak. They want to create a narrative about him, so they can bash him with it throughout his life. H&M aren’t going to allow it. Good on them!

    • Greywacke says:

      Excellent point!

  21. Jezz says:

    That picture with the Queen and Doria smiling at the baby looks like a renaissance painting. The colours, the placement, the flow, all of it is perfection. I hate that Meg always shares it in B&W, because it looks seriously like high art in colour.

  22. Amy Bee says:

    All I will add to Kaiser’s closing comments is that by the summer of 2019 it was reported by at least one person in the royal rota that the senior royals had distanced themselves from Harry and Meghan. Therefore they chose not to see Archie. It is totally the Royal Family’s fault that they don’t have a relationship with Archie.

    • Jais says:

      Agree @AmyBee and the article is really careful to not directly say it’s Harry’s fault either that they haven’t seen Archie, which is interesting. Obviously, they want the readers to imply it but it’s not hinted at as strongly as it could be and I think that’s because of the interview and Gayle. The royals prob want to leak that it’s all Meghan and Harry’s fault the rest of the family hasn’t seen Archie but that’s a lie. And now they know they will be publicly called out if they leak lies.

  23. MsDiMeanOur says:

    How is the price of their home still an issue… This far in the story of meghan and Harry?

    • Liz version 700 says:

      They aren’t allowed to use their own money to buy nice things. The rest of the Royals are allowed to use British Taxpayer money to live in castles. But the black woman is supposed to live in a hut.

  24. ABritGuest says:

    William has clearly only seen Archie 3/4 times max but the reporter clearly didn’t want to spell that out. Tell me who had concerns about the baby’s colour without saying who had concerns about the baby’s colour..

    the piece says that H& M were living like hermits in Frogmore & were in the U.K. until November so there was plenty of opportunity for Charles& William to see Archie especially during the summer period where royals don’t do much.

    When H+M announced their various lawsuits in October 2019 Richard Palmer said Charles had distanced himself & William had dropped Harry like a ton of bricks earlier that year. He said Elizabeth visited them at Windsor and tried to settle them. I suspect this is true and why the Sussexes still have a decent relationship with her. Curious about the others like zara & Peter.

    It’s sad for Harry& Meghan as they both had spoken about wanting children before & doubt they envisaged some of their closest relatives not being there for them at a special time.

    The royal accounts will probably fade out doing birthday posts for the Sussex kids. I think they only did cos of Archie’s profile

  25. Haylie says:

    They did everything they could to Meghan to keep Archie from being born short of sending an old peddler woman to Frogmore with a poison apple. If they never see Archie again, it’s what they deserve.

    • lanne says:

      @Haylie, I’m picturing that Magesty magazine lady knocking on the door of Frogmore with a bag of apples for a “gift.” Next up is that that bunny-boiler ” I spent 15 minutes talking to harry and I am now his mother-wife” biographer lady knocking on the door with a spindle.

      Ratchets be crazy.

  26. Ginger says:

    The RF had no desire to see Archie. None. Look at the body language in the christening photo. William has a nasty smirk on his face and Kate looks SO uncomfortable.

    Also, why would Harry come back to the UK once a month? That’s makes NO sense lol

    • Anastasia says:

      Kate’s skirt looks really short, too. That picture is so weird to me that Kate is the one sitting, and not Doria.

      • Jais says:

        Hmm Anastasia that’s an interesting point about Kate sitting and Doria standing behind the couch. Shouldn’t the other grandmother be seated also? I’d never really noticed that but now I’m really annoyed by it.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        Peasants stand, don’tcha know!! Royals sit.

        That was just out and out rude.

      • Sori says:

        I obviously don’t know if this is why the shot was set up this way, but whenever I see that picture, I think that it would be very easy to crop Will and Kate out without affecting the balance very much. I’m petty so that’s what I would do.

    • Merricat says:

      Yes, coming back once a month is absurd; that was never going to happen.

  27. MarJo says:

    Not a very lucky kid in the grandfather’s department.

  28. swirlmamad says:

    As much as I’m sure that Charles is the same dirtbag father and now grandfather that he’s always been, I’m wondering if this is now coming out to steer the “who asked about Archie’s skin color” convo back over to Chuck from William. I’m still convinced it was William who asked, but I’m quite sure that Charles had his reservations about Harry and Meghan actually having a child together. He may have *thought* he was open-minded enough to show support for them getting married (look how kind he was to Doria! He even offered her his arm!?!<$$! 🙄), but I really think Meghan getting pregnant spooked him. They may have realized to an extent that they needed to show differently, but there's no way people as socially, culturally, and socioeconomically insulated as the royals were ever going to be truly accepting of the marriage and any children that came out of it. Ironically TQ and Philip may seem the most chill and relaxed about it of them all, but I really think it's honestly bc they are/were finally at the age to honestly not give a f*ck anymore.

  29. Oh says:

    They try very hard to erase Meghan and Archie from Harry’s life, and how happy Harry was before Meghan & Archie when he was single. Now they pretend they care about Archie!! Lol…… I hope they never get any chance to meet with baby girl.

  30. MsIam says:

    It’s the “Harry travel back to the UK once a month or so” part that gets me. Huh? In what universe is Harry flying back and forth leaving his wife and family, because they were not mentioned as part of this equation? They should keep Archie’s name out of their mouths forever after the way they treated his parents. Same with any fake congratulations about Baby Sussex.

    • equality says:

      Didn’t H&M say their plan was to live part time in the UK? That isn’t flying back and forth monthly and wouldn’t have required keeping Frogmore on lease. I think they thought things would still work out for that and part time and when they finally gave up on that idea, let Eugenie use Frogmore.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        To me, I thought that meant summers (esp once the kids were in school). Perhaps even Balmoral for a week. Buuut….. it’s a moot point now. I hope Meghan NEVER steps back there, and does NOT let the kids go either. Harry *may* need to (TQ’s funeral) and then all bets are off.

    • Chica says:

      I think about if I were Meghan, I could never trust being in the UK for any reason. It’s sad. But I imagine her going out to order lunch or having a delivery made and the people doing something unseemly to the food unless she were to go to distinct establishments where she has positive connections. She wouldn’t be able to just do anything in that country without being harassed by some wicked asshole with terrible manners. That’s what the RF and the BM has engendered against her: an entire hostile nation.

      What will be interesting is how the Sussex children act once they’re old enough to be rebellious and exhibit an independent personality. Young ppl tend to give ZERO fucks and will speak their minds. Archie and his sister being brutally honest (should they ever be asked) about the garbage way the country treated them and their mother and would absolutely colour their opinion about Brittain as a whole…no matter what kind of POV their parents try to give them to soften that blow. The rejection is steep.

  31. Merricat says:

    If the royal family had had any regard for Archie at all, they would never have stood for the racist treatment that baby and his mother suffered. No, doing the absolute minimum by publicly wishing Archie a Happy Birthday is not persuasive. Royal trash.

  32. equality says:

    It’s annoying the way all the children except the direct heirs are treated in this family. They shouldn’t have to acknowledge Archie’s birthday because H&M aren’t working royals? That’s messed up. I would be more impressed if TQ acknowledged all her great-grandchildren’s birthdays, regardless of “working” or not. It’s just another way of showing the others are less important than the Cambridge children, especially George.

  33. Lala11_7 says:

    Let’s not forget that Charles BARELY saw or see William & Kate’s children also….

    Or are we gonna just skip that fact?

  34. February-Pisces says:

    Didn’t archie live in the uk for the first 7 months of his life? Charles had plenty of opportunity to go and visit him but didn’t. He probably only cares about seeing his white grandchildren. Seeing as he used to complain about not seeing the Keens children enough, he clearly is only interested in them. Charles is such a sh*t father, he complained when harry was born cos he was a boy and ginger. I think even the video of him outside the hospital after harry was born he looked p*ssed off. Just look at that picture of harry, archie and Charles, harry looks so adoringly at archie, and Charles is just indifferent. It must be so sad for harry knowing his own family doesn’t give af about his own son. Archie is not missing out on anything being away from them.

  35. Rapunzel says:

    Not sure this article is at all accurate… the Cambridge children, for example, saw Archie at that polo game, and I can’t imagine that was the first and only time they saw him. Yet this article implies the kids probably only saw him once.

    I doubt Charles has seen Archie a bunch, but it’s probably more than twice. I think this is just fiction based on the amount of public photos. And it’s meant to get the BRF to make new photos happen. I think the BM was salty we didn’t see Archie’s face or skin tone for his birthday.

    And Harry should come back once a month? When his family was “frosty” during his last visit? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 As if he’s gonna take an 11hr flight once month when he has better things to do.

    • lanne says:

      The polo game where the older kids and Kate IGNORED ARCHIE!! What kind of mother with young children ignores her infant nephew in person? It would have been great press for Kate to get papped holding Archie, and for the kids to peek at the baby. The fact that the older kids stayed away (and no 3-5 year old is going to ignore a baby, especially one that’s in their family) tells me they were probably kept away or told to stay away. That’s the most damning thing to me–Kate and her kids acted like Meghan and Archie were total strangers. Only Louis toddled over because he was a baby who couldn’t get with the program.

      No one in the British media, tabloid or otherwise, found this strange. I would find it utterly bizarre for any family to be in the same place at the same time with small children and have both the mother and the small children ignore the other mother and child. Heck, even on a playground with strangers, 2 moms talking, one with a baby, the other mom will at least look at the infant.

      I wouldn’t wish the Windsor family on anyone. Especially not on Archie and Baby Sussex.

      • Nic919 says:

        I found it very weird for a sister in law not to at least briefly chat with her sister in law who was dealing with a young baby. They didn’t need to have an hours long conversation but there were zero photos of any interaction of them and the closest was Louis who was a curious toddler about a baby.

        Kate showed her true colours there. Zero efforts to try to welcome a new mother to the family.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        @Lanne, exactly. Kate ignored Meghan. The kids ignored Meghan. That’s not normal behavior for families. We have some new babies and we are fighting over who’s going to hold them. The little kids want to see their newest cousins. Katie Keen & the Cambridge tots didn’t show one ounce of interest in Uncle Harry’s baby. Not one ounce.

      • Jais says:

        Lanne, like how you noted that no one in the media thought those polo pics were strange in that Kate and the kids ignored Meghan and Archie. Where were the body language experts!!! We’ve dissected those pics but nary a mention in the press? GTFOH.

        Also, how long were those pics taken after that time when Kate, Pippa, and Meghan went together to watch Serena’s match or were those pics after the polo pics? Those tennis pics made me think ok maybe they’re all chill but the polo pics changed that quick. Those pics are heartbreaking.

      • swirlmamad says:

        The perplexing overall reaction to those photos was that it was “normal” for the two women to act like they didn’t really know each other — and I FULLY blame Kate because as the “seasoned” mom, she should’ve been right over there with Meghan, chatting with her and making her feel at ease, asking her how she was feeling/Archie was sleeping/etc, etc. But she showed herself then for the coldhearted witch she is and straight-up blanked her newly postpartum sister-in-law. I don’t GAF if the brothers were actively fighting at that time (as was widely rumored). But we know she has the personality of a crash test dummy and if Will told her to rudely ignore Meghan and make sure the children did as well, well, who is she to go against her husband’s wishes? 🙄 OMG, she irritates me so much.

  36. Nic919 says:

    The stuff about having an American accent is very xenophobic but Archie will likely be able to switch between accents. Many of my friends who have one British parent are able to imitate their parent’s accent and can flip back and forth. It is similar to kids learning multiple languages from their parents.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      Like Jillan Anderson.

    • Amelie says:

      Yeah, Gillian Anderson can do this too. She lived in the UK as a child for awhile and moved back to the US at the age of 11. She can easily switch between her American and British accent, so much so that when she spoke at a recent awards show many people were shocked to hear her speak in her natural American accent after she played Margaret Thatcher on The Crown.

      And I have a friend I met in college who grew up in the Boston suburbs but has two British parents. She always pronounced a few words here and there the British way, like mom mum etc. As an adult, she moved to London and as far as I can see, plans to stay there for the rest of her life. Now when I see her, her accent is all over the place. It’s not quite 100% British but she has more British inflection now than she did in college. It’s not 100% American either, you can tell she’s lived abroad. It’s a weird mix of both and if you didn’t know her, you might think she was faking it like Hilaria Baldwin lol. But that is the real way she speaks. Her accent doesn’t quite know what it wants to be.

    • Sid says:

      I think you’re right. On the holiday podcast it even sounded like Archie was mimicking Harry with the way he said “new.”

  37. NotSoSocialButterfly says:

    That christening group photo, my god. Doria knew all the shit those a-holes did to Meghan, look at her expression. I can’t imagine standing next to the assholes who abused my daughter.

    The rest of them need to practice harder at the fake smiles, or at least wipe the, “I smell someone’s fart” look from their sour faces.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Doria is a saint. She has perfected the “look serene on the outside even though you want to cut every b*tch in this room” facial expression. I think every black woman has this mastered.

  38. Gail Hirst says:

    Reality check:
    My parents were both from England. Immigrants to Canada. Me: First gen Cdn. Apparently when I am angry my tone can be very “clipped” and I sound very “British” (according to staff).
    Harry is British. Meg’s is from the United States of America. Is Archie’s accent from Central America? Maybe from South America?
    Probably not.
    I figure the combo of British and “American” makes him sound CANADIAN!!!

    • LainieR says:

      LOL!
      As 2nd gen Canadian with Scottish people everywhere, he’ll sound American but with lots of British-isms. It’s how I am, lots of “wee” and “cuppa” pepper my language.

    • Legalease says:

      I nannied for two girls with an American dad and a British mom. Before moving back to the US, they had spent most of their life abroad (Europe, but not the UK). Interestingly, they still sounded as American as can be.

      I think Archie will likely sound very American. He really has no other Brit in his life but his dad, and he presumably attends American nursery school. He’ll probably just have a few British words in his vocab here and there. I’m not sure why the British tabloids are acting so shocked lol

  39. detnow359 says:

    I feel like Ross Geller, WE ARE IN A PANDEMIC! Many people haven’t seen their relatives that are in the same country let alone ones who are not so on the surface this sounds like shade to the Harry and Meghan but this is really the case for a lot of families, at least those who have been following the pandemic rules of their regions.

  40. MsIam says:

    None of these folks were punching a time clock. Its not like they had to request PTO in order to be able to visit Archie. Not sure what the point of this dumb article is, but it sure makes Katie Nicholl out to be a liar with her endless stories about Zoom calls and such. And the no recent pictures is telling, what normal family couldn’t call and say “Hey, we’d like to post a picture of Archie to mark his birthday. Could we get a recent shot?” And while H&M probably are not going to JC Penney Photo Studio for pictures I’m sure it would be no issue to send some more recent photos if the relationship was on the mend.

    • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

      Then again, I doubt H&M would want to send a “face shot” of Archie, when they rarely put one out themselves.

      • Sid says:

        I would be willing to bet a little money that Eugenie probably has some actual photos of Archie, as she appears to be one of the only trustworthy members of the family. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that every photo of herself, Jack, and their baby that she has put on her IG has been outdoors, with not a single shot of the Frogmore Cottage interior.

  41. Rianic says:

    I hope Archie runs for President in 2064

  42. nicegirl says:

    Oooh, they are not trying to attack our baby Archie’s accent now? Stoop lowerr why don’t you? Geez

  43. aquarius64 says:

    Dollar bet Harry and Meghan have worked it out with their lawyers the Markles will never get near the kids. Those greedy vindictive idiots left a nasty trail in the BM that could be used in court if Bad Dad tries to sue for visitation. No US family court judge would stomach TT’s nonsense. Throw in Scammy and Junior’s brushes with the law. Remember when Bad Dad went to Oprah’s house to hand her a letter and the point was made that the letter was not for Meghan and Harry. Nor did he go to their house. Makes you wonder if the Markles have no contact restraining orders on them .

    • Haylie says:

      Grandparent’s Rights are not really a thing. Parents ultimately decide if a grandparent can have visitation with grandchildren. It gets a little bit murkier in the event of parent separation, divorce or disappearance. But Tommy and the rest of his deadbeat kids aren’t likely to see these kids ever in life outside of birthday pics from behind.

    • HeatherC says:

      In the US generally most “grandparent rights” petitions don’t even get entertained if there was no established relationship. Which there isn’t. He was rumbling about suing for grandparent rights before Archie was even born, the scumbag. The only petitions that are ever partially successful (court ordered visitation a couple hours a month) that I’ve heard of, the estranged grandparent had been a primary care taker for a good chunk of the kid’s life. Not the case here.

      He has no standing. The only way he could have even a shadow of standing is if Meghan was deceased. And even then, given their estrangement it’s beyond not likely.

      If he was ever dumb/desperate enough to file, it would be a nuisance petition that a law student could defeat.

    • Kkat says:

      They are in California, grandparents can’t sue for visitation/custody here.
      People like to say Grandparents rights, but they don’t have any.

  44. Monica says:

    Acknowledging Archie’s birthday at all, and not laying blame for the lack of contact—obviously the work of the crisis managers.

  45. Merricat says:

    Performative bs, like everything they do.

  46. Lunasf17 says:

    LOL on the American accent. My daughter is exactly a month younger than Archie and she does her baby babble talk, I don’t really think she has an accent yet. That’s a weird comment but also he is in America surrounded by Americans so he will sound American, even with a British dad. It sounds like the Queen visits with Archie on zoom the most according the Oprah interview and she looks so delighted in that photo with him. I have to admit that photo melts my cold heart.

  47. Tursitops says:

    Let’s all remember how Chuckles treated his first wife. Who is surprised that he is mistreating his daughter-in-law just as badly?

  48. starryfish29 says:

    This is not even remotely surprising to me, and it tells me way more about that deranged family than it does about M&H. I always thought it was notable that we got that first photo of Archie with Phil & Lil and a) Chuck wasn’t there and b) we never got a similar shot with him at all.

  49. Carmen-JamRock says:

    BTW….I’m noticing tht the inmates on shutter island are ignoring Archie’s very distinctive middle name: Harrison.
    Gee I wonder why….LMFAO. Aaawwww methinks they dont want to be reminded of what it signifies.

  50. SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

    If they expose Archie to the RF and tabloids, they’re exposing him to racist abuse. Good on them for sheltering him.

  51. Likeyoucare says:

    Two times too many.
    By the way is that a coding for american accent or african american accent?

    • Ania says:

      Funny thing, when I was learning English (as a foreign language) British English was considered „the right English” and other accents, including American, as „lesser”. It was never called that directly, but the implication was always there. i’ve never thought about it until now. So I guess it’s supposed to be a comment meaning that Archie will speak „the other accent”. I will not be surprised when RRs will be outraged that Archie as a royal speaks American English just to write in another article that he doesn’t deserve to have a title.

  52. Jewell says:

    Ughhhhhh can you imagine Meghan having to bring her mom around the person who complained that Archie was too dark. Doria was so classy to stand there in that christening photo looking so regal knowing that someone else in that photo was so vile. Poor Archie having to experience racism before he was even born and no one in the family even bothered to reach out to smooth things over after Oprah. No wonder they left that place.

    • Curious says:

      I really don’t know how Meghan manage to take that pic. Meghan knew who talked about if they have children what skin tone will the children have. so Meghan knew, her mother, catherine, Charles and camilla. the only people in that pic that did not know at the time, must have been Diana sisters. plus the culprit william standing there with a fake smile. I think Meghan also had a private birth(maybe they paid for it themselves)so they didn’t have to show their baby pics to the public right away .it was their choice,so they waited a few days .same with the christening, it was private ,so the public can’t demand pics. a royal photographer came and took the official pics. Meghan was not going to invite the press that bashed her so badly to take pics of her new born baby..

  53. blunt talker says:

    The treatment of Princess Diana before the wedding to Charles and after the divorce from Charles is all anyone needs to know about what kind of person Charles is unfeeling and blinded by jealousy and anger-Little Archie does not need to be exposed to this type of person-People who work for the royals will be less kind than the royals themselves-The Sussex children should never be used as scapegoats or diversions at no time ever.

  54. Curious says:

    no one should complain about not seeing Archie. all this mess with the royal family started before Meghan even got married. (skin tone) then another mess when Catherine made Meghan cry .then for yrs Catherine let the press hound Meghan when the palace sources twisted the truth and made Meghan the bad evil person. the press and the royal family have no right to ask for any pics of Archie. the royal family had around 6 months to take pics with Archie. the Queen/Phillip,William/Catherine ,Charles/Camilla only took official pics.no pics of any of them holding the baby. they already knew what nasty things they was saying about her to the press. Meghan/Harry knew it too. so they all was just doing this for appearances sake. i think Meghan said one time, that not everything is as it seems. don’t know how these royal christening goes. but Princess Royal. Prince Edward,Prince Andrew,don’t know if they even attended with their families.

  55. Over it says:

    F that sh—-t ,when I had my child, I didn’t take her to people, they came to me because she was a newborn and it was easier that way . My point is if Chucky and the rest gave a damm about Harry and his family, they would have visited him. So why do these people make a big deal about Archie not seeing these people for over a year when it’s clear that even when he was on British soil they didn’t care to know him .

    Let me count Charles two times, first when he was born about a week later and then at the christening .

    The keenbridges. 10 days after he was born, the polo match and the christening.

    Petty Betty lived next door , so who knows with her but if I had to guess I would say she made more of an effort or maybe the meet and greet was her only time.

    Harry family is shit. I think the York sisters were better at seeing Archie
    Si Katie Nichols bullshit to Et about zoom calls for Archie birthday is made up bull as always.
    If I were Meg and Harry, they could see my children again when they are teenagers and can make their own decisions to a certain extent.