The Queen is ‘absolutely gobsmacked’ by Prince Harry’s ‘The Me You Can’t See’

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Much like the Oprah interview, it feels like the Windsors haven’t actually watched The Me You Can’t See. The Queen and Prince of Wales have likely been given the broad strokes from their advisors, who of course concentrate on all of the Prince Harry-specific parts. But by making it sound like the series is simply Harry spilling his guts out about his family, Salty White Folk Isle has really missed how groundbreaking the series is and what it is actually about. It’s about how everyday people struggle with their mental health, how trauma and grief can be felt years later, how therapy helps but is not a cure-all, and how everyone is on their own journey. But the Windsors and their dumbf–k courtiers keep running around and telling everyone that TMYCS is tacky, awful and solely about Harry. And apparently the Queen is worked up about it.

The queen gave Prince Harry permission to make his documentary series on mental health with Oprah Winfrey, believing it would focus on military veterans and is reported to have been aghast when Harry used the five part Apple TV+ show to slam his father and the monarchy.

“Those around the queen and Prince Charles are absolutely gobsmacked by what has happened,” a source described as being “close to Buckingham Palace” told, adding, “It is a question of trust, and honestly any of that is hanging by a thread at the moment. No one within the Palace circles has anything but sympathy for Harry’s trauma and troubled life, but there is upset and discomfort at him sharing it on an international television show. Certainly the intimate detail of his hardships paint a very negative picture of his family and upbringing. Many people have a different view.”

The Mail’s sources claimed that the terms in which Harry had initially pitched the show to the queen were viewed as “clearly misleading.”

The news that Harry is to take to the airwaves again is likely to be received with weary resignation at Buckingham Palace. Although many family members and courtiers would prefer that Harry kept a lower profile, they now accept that is unlikely to happen in the near future. They will, however, likely hope that Harry will not use the discussion to again heap criticism on his family, specifically his father, who Harry accused of telling him he had to “suffer” in the original show because he had. Harry also suggested that Charles was damaged by the parenting he received from the queen and Prince Philip.

The royals subsequently hit back with a source telling the Mail on Sunday that the queen was “deeply upset” and that Charles was feeling “wretched” about the situation. However, today’s salvo, which comes close to outright accusing Harry of deceiving the queen, suggests a possible hardening of royal attitudes to Harry’s TV career.

[From The Daily Beast]

Again, I have to wonder if the Windsors are going to react/overreact whenever Harry and Meghan do *anything* now. This is legitimately brand new territory for them although there are shades of “Diana’s later years” happening as well. But they’ve never had to deal with a charismatic royal moving off the toxic isle and becoming his own 21st century brand, along with his beautiful and equally charismatic wife. In any case, Harry and Meghan gave these salty a–holes an opportunity to have a say in what they were doing. That was the whole purpose of the “half-in/half-out” scheme. The Queen rejected that scheme. And while I don’t doubt that Harry initially had plans to do a series about veterans and mental health, I also think that the Queen made it abundantly clear that Harry & Meghan were on their own as of March 2020. So here we are. The Sussexes are doing their own thing and the Windsors can’t help but react hysterically every single time.

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  1. Maria says:

    I think the Queen has kind of given up after Philip’s death for a bunch of reasons.
    I don’t see her as paying much attention anymore and I am sure if this documentary gobsmacked her it’s partially because as a woman with a Victorian upbringing she doesn’t know what the hell half of it is even about, mental health wise.
    And she’s not so stupid she can’t keep expecting that Harry will talk. If he talked on Oprah of course this would happen.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I don’t think she was gobsmacked. Her son said worse about her in his own documentary many years ago. She also has no permission to give. The moment she stripped Harry of his titles and his protection was with drawn, he became a free agent. if anything, I think she is grateful. He was very kind and generous in his documentary. His father wasn’t and his mother certainly spoke her mind as well.

      • Maria says:

        I agree. I think she would rather think of them as beloved family members and the rest of it isn’t her problem. Of course, her son and grandson want to make it her problem, or a big enough problem of their own that it ropes her in.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        I think this has very little to do with the queen. This reads like it’s fiction attaching TQ to give weight to the outrage.

        We know she never cut contact with Harry. We know Philip didn’t either.

        I worked at an assisted living facility for a time and let me tell you… they don’t care. They’ve seen so much and they’re tired/relaxed. This is all Charles and William. The queen did her duty and knows she’s nearing the end of her reign. She’s probably not the one behind a lot of things from people claiming nonsense on her behalf.

      • Hannah says:


        Side note, I will never get over the fact they took away protection from Harry, Meghan, and Archie. So creepy.

      • Bess says:

        @Wiglet I agree. The Queen does her small engagements and is happy with her horses, puppy and being semi-retired. This is all Charles and Bill Middleton.

      • Becks1 says:

        I think the press/RRs/other Windsors attach the Queen’s name to things to make it seem like Harry has really crossed a line. Remember the line a week or so ago from Charles’s camp, about how Charles would have to react if Harry dared to attack the Queen? They all know no one really cares if Harry says Charles is a crap father – the anger around it is all performative. But if Harry were seen to insult or “blindside” the queen, people would be genuinely mad bc the queen is so beloved. So they have to twist Harry’s actions into an attack on the Queen any way they can.

    • Sofia says:

      I agree. But I would say she probably gave up/checked out before Philip died. Which is understandable. She’s in her 90s (mid 90s actually). She’s not going to be the same woman she was 10 years ago and beyond.

      Although, if reports are to be believed, she was never particularly into the family part anyways so she’s always been at a distance from it all, family wise

    • teecee says:

      Oh come on, she didn’t watch it. None of the reactions reported to be hers are hers. She’s practically gaga.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Yup, agree with everyone here — the queen could probably care less about this. It’s the courtiers/Firm projecting their freakouts onto her.

    • Chelsea says:

      I honestly dont think this is a real story. This reeks of one of those stories RRs drop when they have no scoops and they thet just end up quoting other RRs as sources. There was no indication at the time this was first announced that it was about veterans so i have a hard time believing that the Queen or anyone near her thought this was what it was going to be about. I do, however bet that they didnt expect Harry to go back and record a segment callng out the palace for the smear campaign they ran against Meghan leading up to the Oprah interview. Oh well. Play stupid games win stupid prizes

    • BothSidesNow says:

      @ Hannahk I agree. TQ is in her twilight and she has no f#ck to give. Also, this news from Harry isn’t new, only new in the sense that he is exposing his fathers feelings as well. The only people wit their nose bent out of shape, possibly, are Charles and possibly Baldimort.
      But let’s face it, anything that Harry and/or Meghan do will be frowned upon by the folks of Salty White Racist Island, period! So instead of it being TQ that is all aghast, it’s actually the courtiers and Charles, possibly Baldimort.

      BTW, wasn’t this played two weeks ago and we are still running with this story? Are they paid each article per word to bash Harry and/or Meghan and this is why we keep getting the same dead horse to beat over and over?

    • LillyfromLillooet says:

      I’m with @Wiglet

  2. Nomegusta says:


    Harry, rather stupidly, trusted his family to act at least a little decent when it came to his family. And like clockwork everytime one of them messes up, that family offers up H&M to slaughter.
    Harry doesn’t just know where the skeletons are burrows, he was the one forced to dig the hole most of the time (especially when it came to Billeth)

    They need to leave that man alone because if sometime terrible happens, all their asses are going down…hell, even the dogs won’t be safe.

    • Mac says:

      The notion that Harry isn’t entitled to their trust is insane. The BRF abused his wife to the point she was suicidal. They drove them from the country. They cut them off financially and now they are enraged because they have the gall to make money. Their inability to reflect on what Harry and Meghan have said publicly really shows the BRF are even more emotionally stunted than we thought.

      • Nomegusta says:

        What he was entitled to, and what he was going to get are not the same. History is loop for that family not lesson to be learned.

        He had too much faith in them.

      • Bunny says:

        He’s entitled to it, but the RF are never going to give him support or care. He was never more than the spare to them, and they always put him in his place. To them, he’s a product to be used, not an individual.

        They’re wrong, of course. He’s a grown man, accomplished, smart, and much loved by his wife, child, and friends.

        It is normal to look to your family of origin for love and comfort and security. They were and are completely unable and unwilling to give him the care he deserved. They cynically don’t see the need.

        To him, they were family. To them, he was an object. The RF is rotten to the core.

  3. L84Tea says:

    I can’t wait to see how they react when Harry wins an Emmy…

    It’s really getting fatiguing. The over the top enraged, shocked, hysterical reactions to every time H or M blinks.

    • Nomegusta says:

      They’re going to hit The floor 😂 It’s definitely going to be nominated

      William will probably stomp his feet and hold his breath until the Baftas give him a participation trophy …

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ Nomegusta, oh please, let’s see PWTnholdnhis breath forever as he has an absolute fit over his brother!!! Please, I would pay good money to watch that!, The Other Brother better get to work on something soon as his brother is kicking his ass in “a duty of service….”

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      The docu-series was groundbreaking and worthy of an Emmy as it got people talking. Talk about impact! As much as Charles may be upset I’m sure he is secretly proud that at least he produced one son who is productive and has the guts to be the man he wasn’t. The other brother showed his arse in Scotland. No amount of Harry bashing will cover up Willileaks ineptitude and lack of legacy.

      • lanne says:

        I honestly don’t think Charles has the ability for that type of self reflection. He has spent his entire life believing not only that he is special and chosen by god, but that the world revolves entirely around him. He also thinks everyone else’s worlds revolve around him as well. The fact that he can’t seem to recognize how important Harry’s documentary was for mental health, and thinks it’s all about bashing him is proof. My guess is that none of the royals actually watched it.

      • Lizzie says:

        Charles would only be proud if he could take some of the credit.

    • Lizzie says:

      hmm, blindsided comes to mind.

  4. Emily says:

    Ah yes, the obligatory They-Made-The-Queen-Cry article. They’ve played that card so many times that I just don’t care if she’s crying.

    • Maria says:

      I think the only things she cries over these days are her dogs.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      I think half the UK does not give a toss. Many are now thinking that if they can throw their own to the dogs, they must be worse behind closed doors.

    • Myra says:

      If she actually watches it, she might learn something new on the importance of mental health.

  5. Snuffles says:

    Well, a whole hell of a lot happened in between the time he originally set the deal and when it got made. The Sussexit, a global pandemic, BLM, all kinds of international social upheaval, etc.

    Projects ALWAYS change from concept to final execution. Their naive if they assumed it wouldn’t. They are just pissed that this is yet another example of how they no longer have any control over what Harry does.

    • equality says:

      Yep. She knew about the series. If she wanted some say in what Harry did on the program she should have let him have the half-in deal he wanted. Completely cutting him lose was the RF’s own arrogant mistake.

  6. JT says:

    All of their reactions to whatever it is that H&M do, is just proof that those f*ckers had no real game plan. The family wanted Meghan gone but they didn’t think through what that would entail. All of their f*ckery made this couple iconic, without even trying. They rejected the part time plan, which W&K still do, but are mad that they cannot control the Sussexes. Now, H&M have multiple media deals worth millions, while the royals have to “pinch pennies” with the sovereign grant. The firm is just making up sh*t as they go along, it shows and they are mad about it. Let’s not even get to how the BM screwed themselves thinking that they could harass this couple for access and are now mad that they have less access than before. Everyone over there is just dumb.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Exactly right. Their inability to read the room and lack of strategic planning and thinking will finish off the monarchy if they are not careful. They thought the Sussexes had no friends or support. The multi-million deals, work ethic, and creativity of Harry and Meghan really shocked them and them. If Andrew and Peter Phillips can make millions allegedly via dodgy deals, how much more the Sussexes who have the talent and freedom to make legal deals?

    • Cecilia says:

      I remember a while back on twitter someone (i think it was david simon) had something to say about this whole meghan/ harry and windsors mess. And he replied to someone saying sarcastically: “i see that playing hard with these 2 has worked out great for the royals so far”

      I was reading that and i thought to myself “wow he’s so right”

      The “firm” is trying to play hard with h&m and they have been since 2018 for absolutely no reason. And now they are still trying to play hard except they can’t because they’ve lost all control. There’s nothing they can hold over the sussexes head. Once again im so happy about their shortsightedness because it broke meghan and harry completely free

    • Emmitt says:

      I disagree. They thought about what it would entail:

      Meghan would leave, take the baby with her and file for divorce.

      The royal family would give her full custody of the baby and a settlement in exchange for her agreeing to never come back and never bringing the child back.

      Archie’s place in the line of succession would be stripped. He would never be referred to as Harry’s child; in all tabloid articles Archie would be referred to as MEGHAN’s child. (this is why there were talks into never giving Archie a title).

      Harry would just go along with the program and fall back in line as William & Kate’s work mule.

      That’s what the Royal Family & their henchmen actually thought was going to happen, because they never listened to Harry: they would get rid of Harry’s wife and child and Harry would fall back in line.

      They thought this because this would’ve worked on every other royal. They believe titles and tiaras are the end all, be all…everyone wants to be them or near them and they just can’t fathom anyone would want to leave the royal life behind.

      • JT says:

        @Emmit Their only plan was to work with the tabloids to get her to leave. That’s it. They didn’t seriously think it through. Meghan was a self made millionaire, with A list friends, and a business well before she joined the firm. They really thought she would sink without them, forgetting that she didn’t need them in the dust place. They severely underestimated Meghan and Harry’s intelligence, and willingness to create their own path and it shows. All of your points are hypotheticals. What they’d hope for, it is not grounded in REALITY, therefore they didn’t seriously think it through. They also thought they new the real Harry, only to be surprised with who Harry actually is and what he stood for . They had no plan b, further showing their lack or foresight, which is why they’ve not been able to pivot. They had no “real” plan, just hopes.

      • anotherlily says:

        Archie cannot be stripped of his place in the line of succession. He is a great-grandchild of the current monarch and grandchild of the next monarch. Nothing can alter those facts and there is no lawful process by which he can be removed.

      • Emmitt says:

        Archie was going to be erased from the line if they could’ve gotten Meghan to leave with him (and not Harry). Maybe he couldn’t be taken out of the line but he definitely was going to be erased, never to be spoken of, never to be mentioned. If anyone ever brought him up, he’d be “Meghan’s child” and not “Harry’s child.”

        And Meghan and Archie did leave. The problem is Harry left with them so they couldn’t do their original plan to erase Meghan & Archie. Remember, Archie wasn’t supposed to be here, Meghan was supposed to miscarry him so the royals could send her packing back to America (dead or alive) and Harry would fall in line as William & Kate’s 3rd wheel/workhorse again or if he must marry, marry a suitable white wife who would bear white children the royals would acknowledge.

      • JT says:

        @Emmitt Their supposed “plan” was bullsh*t because there was so many factors at play. Short of actually killing Meghan themselves, there was absolutely no way it could’ve worked. They did not think through a single decision, including how all of this would’ve affected the firm. And let’s say Meghan did end her own life along with Archie, do people think the royals could’ve weathered that storm? Do you think Harry would’ve sat back and not said anything? Look at what he’s saying now, imagine if he had actually lost his wife and child. People would have absolutely blamed the royals for it. Harry would have burned it all into the ground. So again. The royals had no actual plan rooted in reality, they didn’t think it through, and they still have no plan to move forward other than the usual attacks they have been doing.

      • Maria says:

        Parliament can change the line of succession and theoretically strip Archie of his place in the succession but it would take a bill, a lot of debate, and other processes that will never happen.

        But yes, they would have preferred the problem of Meghan and Archie to disappear in some way.
        Don’t be so quick to assume the royals couldn’t have weathered the storm of her suicide. Remember how well they kept under wraps that she was even suicidal in the first place. She’s only able to tell this story because she got out. That all happened before Harry said a word about his family. And if he had been of the mindset to stay then he might not have said anything – he still hasn’t said anything about their role in his mother’s death and now we all know there was probably more to it than we think. They have a lot of power and the courtiers are sinister as Harry said.
        Thankfully they’re gone and free.

      • JT says:

        Yes they had a plan to get rid of Meghan, but was it rooted in reality? If Meghan committed suicide, I highly doubt Harry would’ve stayed quiet, the public didn’t know she was suicidal, but Harry did. Doria knew. All of her friends knew. Harry just said in The Me You Can’t See that he was actively thinking about what he would do if he had to raise his son alone or if Meghan died. Do you really think he would remain within the firm “knowing what he knew?” Do people think that low of him? If she couldn’t tell her story, somebody could. If the family managed to skate, it would be by the skin of their teeth. Diana dying in a car accident nearly broke them and people still think they did it. If Meghan died, the fist black person to marry in that family, they would be in for one hell of a ride. Getting rid of Meghan was easier said than done. Clearly. And Meghan kept all of the receipts. I think she would have made sure she was heard. They have a lot of power within the institution and the BM, but everywhere else, they have zilch. They barley control their own news cycles now in this day and age.

      • Maria says:

        This family was willing to endanger his life by removing his protection. While he was in their clutches who knows what he had to endure. He would have wanted to talk and they would have made sure he couldn’t somehow.
        He can do this now because he’s free.
        Diana was convinced those RPO’s were reporting on her because they were. She was terrified of some kind of attack coming to her, which may have been paranoid…but maybe not. They were willing to risk Harry’s life by removing his protection and leaking his location. If they were willing to do that to him, I am sure they would have formulated a plan to deal with the PR surrounding anything with Meghan.
        And they have a lot of power within British society, not just the institution and the media. It may not translate to outright political power in some ways but they have loopholes for finances, for privacy, for everything, and intimidation tactics. They have their thugs like any organization like that.

      • ElleE says:

        @JT @Emmitt no one is going to see this post so I’ll boldly add to Emmitt’s points that:
        – there has been whisper campaign about Harry’s legitimacy, coming from inside palace walls, since his birth,

        -this doubt about legitimacy was going to be extended to Archie after Meghan was driven out (the phantom pregnancy, surrogate, mysterious timelines, confusing dates in the court circulars about the birth etc.)

        None of this is true – just saying this is how campaigns work, how doubt is sown. They never counted on Harry being ready to sue at the first hint of his son being labeled as illegitimate.

        Look what he and his wife were willing to do over a letter written to her stupid father. Harry will destroy the first “journalist” that cites a “palace source” as being concerned about the negative effects all of the rumors about Archie’s mysterious birth (who knows where that kid came from??) are having on the poor Queen, a woman that just buried her husband!

        I am 90% hoping someone is stupid enough to stick with the original plan and call Archie’s parentage into question-forgetting that Harry has left the Firm has has solicitors on retainer just waiting…waiting….

  7. Mina_Esq says:

    Thanks for the free publicity, Royal reporters? 🙂

  8. Me says:

    The Force 10 freak out may be a good strategy for lots of clicks in the short-term, but I do think even tabloid ‘readers’ are going to tire of this fairly quickly. People do become bored when everything is a disaster, tragedy, what-have-you. The royals are looking more than a little ridiculous as well as petty—not everything is about them and they’re so dull in any case.

  9. Liz version 700 says:

    Based on what I have seen from the Sussexes I would keep the smelling salts handy, I don’t think they are stopping anytime soon Lizzie. If you wanted to control them you shouldn’t have cut them loose. The problem is, when you force people to sink or swim, they can surprise you by swimming away from Your salty castle forever.

  10. MsIam says:

    William is “concerned”, Charles is ” enraged” and now the queen is “gobsmacked”. These people are ridiculous. Diana wrote a whole ass book about how she was treated and even Fergie talked about her misery so I don’t know why these folks keep trying to sell the lie that life is a royal bed of roses. That ship has sailed. Now would be the time for them to break out the stiff upper lip and get on with whatever it is they supposedly do.

    • windyriver says:

      Not to mention, Charles himself previously authorized a biography (Dimbleby) that didn’t just suggest he “was damaged by the parenting he received from the queen and Prince Philip”, but outright said so.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ windy river, isn’t that true! But now that Harry has uttered these same truths, it’s all a scandal! RR, rat couturiers and PR “sleuths” should stop now while they are ahead. Well, they never have been ahead, have they. But you call all pat yourselves on your backs as you played right into the entire game and have lost!!

  11. TeamAwesome says:

    Harry going through a therapy session on camera, talking about the absolute panic he feels when he flies into London is such a vulnerable and powerful thing. That these Salty, abusive, a$$holes continue with this narrative shouldn’t be surprising, but good grief.

  12. Digital Unicorn says:

    I highly doubt this story – its from the Fail who pretty put out these baity stories on a daily basis.

    I don’t think she really care TBH, she’s probably still grieving for her husband and lets face it she’s pretty much leaving Chuck to run things now.

    Am sure we’ll be getting confirmation soon from the Sussex’s that they still speak to Granny.

    • Lady D says:

      Her husband spent the last 20 years of his life with the woman he wanted to be with. How much grieving is the Queen doing, I wonder? I’m sure there’s some, they were together a long time, but knowing how he lived, does she grieve his death that much? I’m not trying to demean her grief in any way, but I wonder how close were they?

      • equality says:

        I wondered the same thing. And it’s not like it was sudden and unexpected or he died young.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        Lady D., that’s true. But let’s not forget that he was her light, her steward and her rock. She leaned on him a great deal, no matter if he had someone on the side. It has been her loss to deal with, not his. She was very smitten by him by the time she was a teenager and has carried that flame for more than 8 decades, so yes. I think that she is grieving quite a bit. I keep picturing her at the funeral and she was certainly broken by his death. She is clearly grieving deeply.

    • KT says:

      It’s bullshit. Harry doesn’t need permission from The Queen for anything.

  13. Cecilia says:

    “Hardening attitudes of Harry’s tv career” LMAO what are they going to do? Absolutely nothing thats right.

    • Elizabeth Regina says:

      Harry’s very successful TV career, thank you very much. And there is still a podcast and other media to come. To think they wanted to hold such a talented young man back so he could play second fiddle to an incandescent, petulant rage monster.

      • windyriver says:

        In the interview she and Harry did with Robin Roberts, Oprah made sure to point out how hands on Harry was with the series. She joked about him always being the first to turn in his notes, and show up for meetings, and how she kept trying to beat him and be there first. It’s clear from his on screen segments during the series how engaged Harry was, but that bit of additional info on his work habits was very interesting (and impressive). How frustrating it must have been BTS being part of the RF and having to take a back seat to William. But Oprah’s comments were also an insight into what we’ve suspected – Harry was likely responsible for the bulk of the work also attributed to Will and Kate. Not to mention, how much the RF truly lost with Harry leaving, and why they want him back so badly.

  14. Amy Bee says:

    For a woman is doesn’t speak, unless she’s been told to by the government, we sure hear a lot lot about her feelings. The original announcement by Harry about the series never mentioned anything about veterans mental health, I think that was assumed by the press.

  15. Ainsley7 says:

    While not in their best interest, I don’t think it’s ridiculous that they are reacting to being talked about. Like, it’s ridiculous when they make things that are not about them (the Netflix deal for example) all about them. Reacting to Harry calling them out is stupid from a PR stand point, but it’s reasonable for them to have some feelings about it. I honestly wish Harry would stop talking about them. It just gave people excuses to focus on his personal life rather than the larger issue of mental health. Which is what he was trying to accomplish. I haven’t seen the series (I don’t have apple), but most of the media’s coverage in general (not just the UK) has focused on what Harry has said about his family rather than on the larger topic. Which is unfortunate.

    • Cecilia says:

      The series is about mental health and different forms of therapy. Since harry’s childhood was very much part of his own mental issues he talked about it. Period. Its stupid to think that he wouldn’t mention his own upbringing while encouraging others to open up. Thats just hypocritical

    • MsIam says:

      I disagree @Ainsley7. The only ones whining about the coverage of the family are the tabloid “experts”. Reputable publications are focusing on how this can provide a conduit to help other people start the conversation about their own mental health. Only the obtuse Windsors are going on about ” What about meeee!” No concern about a family member’s suffering which ironically just proves his point.

    • Amy Bee says:

      No one can be an effective mental health advocate without talking about his own experience. Harry spoke about the trauma in his life and how he sought to overcome it. His family’s lack of support and their role in his life is part of that trauma. So let’s stop asking Harry to not talk about his issues. He is helping a lot of people.

      • Lila says:

        Exactly. It’s ridiculous to expect Harry to talk about his own mental health without mentioning all of the f***d up things that happened to him. Being part of that family and around their dysfunction was a huge part of why he suffered when he was younger and why he suffered and had to witness his wife suffer as an adult in his thirties.

    • ABritGuest says:

      Harry has done two interviews where he talked about his relatives and a documentary which talked about how his background/experiences with his family informed his mental health so reasonable to touch on. I don’t count the Dax podcast as from what I remember he made a general comment about parenting. I don’t think there will be much more focus on his family but also think he will push back if they keep smears going & I think the bullying claims etc pre Oprah is why comments about lack of support& firm working with the media on smears were included.

      I’m sure the family would prefer family matters being kept under the lid so hope they keep that energy going forward. The royals would all benefit from keeping focus on their work instead of leaking gossip to press pals etc

      I think Harry’s comments have been a focus in mainly the British press but comments I’ve seen from people who have watched it have focused on what they’ve learned about mental health& found it very informative.

    • Lila says:

      Harry cannot control the media. If they’re only focusing on the very small part of the doc where he tells his stories and not the other amazing stories of bravery, that’s not his fault.

    • Emmitt says:

      You haven’t seen the series but you know Harry shouldn’t have been talking about them in the series?

      How do you know what Harry has said and how much he has said, if you haven’t seen the series?

    • Nic919 says:

      Harry mentioned his father once saying that they should just accept the bad treatment by the press. The rest of the five episodes relate to Harry dealing with the trauma he sustained and the Queen is never mentioned at all. Nothing in this series is Harry dishing on his family and it’s not even close to a continuation of the Oprah interview.

      • Emmitt says:

        I don’t think Harry was even featured for more than 5 minutes in episodes 3 and 4.

    • Eurydice says:

      Those in the media who actually watched the series focused on the overall subject of mental health. Those who didn’t watch the series focused on what they think Harry said.

      As for Harry keeping his personal life private – the series showed that an individual’s mental health is personal. If you grew up in a cult or a war zone, if you were poor and/or suffered sexual abuse, or if you grew up as Harry did. These personal experiences (and more) are what contribute negatively to mental health. And not talking about them makes things worse.

    • Carmen-JamRock says:

      “I haven’t seen the series……… but most of the media’s coverage…….”

      ^ And that ^ right there ^ is your biggest mistake. In fact, the critical mistake that too many of us make, thereby perpetuating the misinformation and its more sinister cousin: disinformation, that pervade our discourses these days, leading us straight to hell; aka: self-destruction.

      Its pretty serious, folks. Our democracy is imploding as we speak. Just look around and see what politicians and their lemmings are doing to dismantle democracy in leading places like USA, UK, parts of western Europe…

  16. 809Matriarch says:

    Okay. I am really sick of these hypocrites in the royal family and their minions in the media acting like anything Harry said is new information. I watched quite a few documentaries on the royal family this weekend and from King George V – bullying his children; George VI having teeth gnashing temper tantrums…

    “Lascelles wrote about ‘Nashville’ — the name he used ‘to describe the King’s [George VI], sudden outbursts of temper, accompanied by gnashing of his teeth and raising his clenched fist to heaven …”

    Then we have volumes of documentaries all over the internet testifying to the neglectful parenting of the Queen and the bullying nature of of Philip’s fathering to Charles. So all this bull crap about Harry’s sharing his journey being some kind of awful unmasking of family secrets is as dishonest as the accusations of vulgarity over Meghan in a one shouldered dress. At this point, nobody – but nobody should pay attention to the “news” or OP-Ed pieces from Salty Island. It is all PROPAGANDA.

  17. Izzy says:

    Do any of us think Queen Petty actually GAF? C’mon.

    • L84Tea says:

      I am in agreement with whoever said it above–I get the feeling Liz has given up, especially now that Philip is gone. I think she is burning through daylight hours sipping tea and playing with her dogs and not much else.

  18. Jais says:

    They feel weary resignation and have accepted that Harry will not be keeping a low profile anytime in the near future! Like who really thought he and Meghan would ever keep a low profile? People are deeply not using their brains over there if they ever thought that.

  19. Chill says:

    It seems to me that any reaction other than how can we help Harry and Megan shows that this is not a loving and caring family. My mother would have put her iron hand down and stopped the trouble.
    The Queen can stop the racism, toxic reactions and competitiveness of her family if she wants. She is choosing not to.
    Harry and Megan are doing the right thing in protecting themselves and working on their mental health and projects. Go!

  20. TresL says:

    This was Oprah’s project alone before Harry came on so I don’t believe it was ever going to be focused on veterans; so, this is either another outright lie or an attempt to make it seem Harry deliberately deceived the queen.

  21. LaraW” says:

    I’m starting to agree with Kaiser— a lot of these stories feel kind of phoned in. We’ve heard this refrain a gazillion times about every aspect of H&M’s actions. Same with the stories about Kate and William, to be honest. They’re running out of things to manufacture. They can’t “break” any news about H&M to create a juicy new narrative— they can only report on the reactions of others and it’s always the same. You can only get so much mileage out of “William angry, Charles sad, Liz shocked,” rinse, repeat. Kate and William don’t have an original thought between them so there’s nothing to report there. You could get some stories about Kate’s sartorial choices, but the BM can’t come out and criticize their crown jewel for her horrible taste in fashion. And the most interesting thing William has done was arranged by a plastic surgeon looking to promote his business by declaring William the “sexiest bald man.”

    At some point I feel like this is going to come to head. Maybe when H&M’s daughter is born and they drop the news of her birth like a month after she’s born, keep her name from the press, and release on B/W photo of her tiny hand curling around Meghan’s. Would be even funnier of the MoS lose their appeal, Judge Warby awards damages, and DM & Co. are forced to print that apology shortly after the announcement of H&M’s daughter’s birth. The loss of revenue from being unable to cover the $14 million baby who bathes in 16 bathtubs simultaneously and the additional financial blow of damages would be… interesting to see how they try to recover from that financial blow. Maybe some “oh noes! Charles hasn’t met his granddaughter!” But again, it’s not the kind of story the BM are salivating to write about.

    • L84Tea says:

      I thought they already lost the appeal?? Or was that something else?

      But something has got to give. I keep hoping the BM and RF will finally come to the acceptance stage and move on. I know the BM won’t because it’s all about money with them, but come on. They need to move on already. It’s getting draining all around.

  22. Jo73c says:

    The Mail’s sources = whatever the Mail felt like making up.
    None of this is based in fact

  23. BooyahB!tches says:

    Like you wrote, “The Sussexes are doing their own thing and the Windsors can’t help but react hysterically every single time.” These two, H&M, are crushing it…huge Succexes!! And please know, all this “royal sources,” “palace sources,” and other similar “sources” are 100% utter CRAP.

  24. lanne says:

    This is their future: whining about Harry after the fact. They are as relevant as Windows 95. The Cambridges YouTube channel is as “innovative” an idea as that godawful paperclip offering useless “help” when you tried to write a ms word document. The royal pr strategy is akin to an electronic company pushing for VCRs to make a “comeback.” The courtiers can do nothing more than try to hide their abject failures behind the longstanding comfort and familiarity of a 95 year old woman. But that straw is slipping from their grasp. It’s clear that they have no strategy for how to proceed when she passes.

  25. Lucylee says:

    More mindless drivel. That poor woman only knows the days of the week: yesterday, today and tomorrow.

  26. JD says:

    I think she’s really going to be gobsmacked by the Ghislaine trial.

    • Eurydice says:

      I wonder what’s the next level above “absolutely gobsmacked”? “Totally, 100% pure unadulterated gobsmacked, I mean it this time.”

    • Soupie says:

      I don’t think they’ll hold Ghislaine’s trial until after the queen has passed on, and perhaps not ever.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Soupie, I disagree. I read that it was postponed until Fall. What you have to keep in mind is that her attorneys will probably try and postpone this for as long as possible. The judge will agree with their requests as long as they have a basis for the postponement. Once the judge thinks there really isn’t a legitimate basis for postponement, that trial will happen. I know the UK thinks it’s brf is all important, but TQ and what she wants won’t have any influence on a US judge.

  27. Beana says:

    In the episode where Harry was doing EMDR, he spoke of feeling helpless as the root of his anxiety. He said he counteracts that by trying to live in the truth, and that’s how he feels strong. It speaks volumes that, when he started this project as a working royal, that he had to “ask permission” to be a part of this project. It’s clear that the Firm and the media feel that they own Harry’s story and feel they have the right to prevent him from telling it – or punish him if he does. That is so insanely abusive. They’re still doing it to Diana – trying to silence her and change the story. It’s heartbreaking that Harry had to go to this extreme to speak his truth, but every day the evidence is there that it was absolutely necessary.

  28. Betsy says:

    I look forward, in ten-twenty years or so, to a more accurate account of what happened, one taken out of the hands of the courtiers with the most power. I agree with all the previous writers who say that this sounds more like courtiers than it does like TQ. She may be lightly disgusted or annoyed with Harry for talking about his personal business – that was a whole cultural thing for decades and decades – but a lot of this just sounds made up.

    And I still see more William behind the Sussex’s being shoved out wholly. Charles wanted them half in half out (probably more in than out). William wanted them gone. William got his way and is finding out never to wish for something because you just might get it.

  29. Mel says:

    H&R are OUT ,they can do as they wish and don’t need to “seek permission/ approval” from anyone. Frankly, I don’t think she viewed it or cares, it’s just the toadies around her and perhaps Charles and William freaking out. If they wanted H&R to stay “in line” they should have accepted their proposal, but seeing that they thought it was more important to punish them or teach them a lesson because they expected them to fail, they get what they get. Deal with it.

  30. Emmitt says:

    Harry probably will do a mental health series about military veterans but that will be part of his Netflix production deal.

    Harry wasn’t really in parts 3 & 4 of “The Me You Can’t See” except as a facilitator and the episodes that he is in, 85% of the show is about other people.

    None of these people have actually watched the program, just like none of them ever really listened to Harry to begin with and that’s the problem.

  31. SusanRagain says:

    I think TQ, PC, and their senior advisors are all of a very different generation.

    Harry is a new man, in his youth, and most of his generation are finding new ways of dealing with life. Therapy and openly speaking out about problems is becoming the positive way of life.

    It’s not easy to make changes or break away from your birth family, and to do it in the amount of spotlight Harry still lives under must be very difficult.

    Charles and The Firm need to accept that when TQ passes, they are out of business.
    The monarchy will be a dress up game for tourists. Has been for decades.

  32. Cherriepie84 says:

    They are flogging a dead horse at this point and need to move on!!

  33. L4Frimaire says:

    It seems really obvious that the royals either haven’t watched the series and are greatly exaggerating what Harry says in it. Part of me thinks this is to stay relevant and part of the news cycle. They’d be more upset if going forward, they’re never mentioned in his future projects. We know Meghan will never directly mention those clowns.

  34. Mamasan says:

    H&M have taken a big chunk of the royal spotlight away (like Diana). And they have nothing in the bull pen. That’s why we have all these ass kissing stories of Angry and Barbie. Their team is weak and they know it. Their strategy try to tear down the A team that left. Kind of sad for an institution that has been around for as it has been. And they tried it before and failed miserably. I guess if at first you don’t succeed, try again.🤣

  35. Jay says:

    The daily mail giving ultimateums to Harry and Meghan that they can’t cash. Like shouting “You’ll be sorry!” at an empty barn with a swinging door.

  36. Lizzie says:

    The queen gave her permission? I don’t think so. He might have told her about it after all of the contracts were signed but her permission was not need or required.

  37. Athena says:

    We’ll be right here when the tides turn and the press start in on William and Kate, whatever they are holding back is bound to come to light at some point.

    I wish Autumn Phillip would have the gumption and take herself and her kids back to Canada, unless she can upgrade to a rich businessman (a real one, with a company and real income). Her hands are tied as to the type of work she can do while inside the family. Why keep living on Anne’s estate at the Windsors/Phillips mercy. Do anyone here know what the behind the scene story is on Autumn and Peter?

  38. iconoclast59 says:

    I see the BRF is following the same playbook as the political far right in the US, line for line:
    – Be outraged over EVERYTHING their opponent* does or says. (*In this case, H&M.)
    – Lie, lie, lie. Then lie some more.

    All to distract from the fact that they have no plan, no grand ideas, no solutions to the urgent problems that face the world. It’s beyond tiresome, it’s dangerous. More people are growing wise to these distraction tactics, but the awareness isn’t spreading nearly fast enough.

  39. T says:

    This is the part that got to me for some reason more than other: …”No one within the Palace circles has anything but sympathy for Harry’s trauma and troubled life, but there is upset and discomfort at him sharing it on an international television show. Certainly the intimate detail of his hardships paint a very negative picture of his family and upbringing. Many people have a different view.”

    While anyone can have a point of view about anything and everything, it really gets under my skin that anyone, especially the majority of the English media, thinks that one person can be wrong in telling HIS OWN STORY and HIS OWN FEELINGS! Not just that they feel a prince shouldn’t share private anything, but that any of them are actually writing that he is lying about his own feelings and struggles. Were they there when so and so happened? Do they a psychic connection to his inner most thoughts, reactions, emotions? Scumbags. He left a toxic environment, saving himself and his family. Just let him go.

  40. LRob says:

    What did Dawn Porter say about how the scope of the series was affected by the pandemic? In every way, to paraphrase her. The courtiers are just stupid if they are feeding the Queen complaints about what was said about the outline of the series when it was conceived 2 YEARS ago. Somebody tell the sponsors of Heads Together to get their crowned heads out of the sand, consider the global devastation that has occurred in those 2 years and watch the darn show objectively. Be proud of producing such a leader and advocate as Prince Harry, who with his wife is doing more for the legacy of the Crown than all of the sniping royals and their “nannies” put together.

  41. NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

    I watched The Me You Can’t See last week and I needed to take some time and process it. It deeply affected my being. First off, Harry is extremely brave for taking part and especially showing an example of his therapy. Secondly, learning about Humanity Crew and Friendship Bench were truly eye opening.

    In regards to Harry’s narrative of events: It can look however they think it looks but Harry spoke his truth. I don’t like people who think others should be grateful because they are privileged in wealth and status. The reaction from the UK media and the crown has been nothing short of disgusting to me. Anyone who has followed his life events knows there has been serious questions about emotional neglect when those two were growing up, especially after Diana died. Harry was never going to find his way within that family so why do they own his narrative? Like many have said, I think Queen Elizabeth is checked out at this point. I think the only ones gobsmacked are Charles and William and I think they’re worried what the next level of intimate conversations with Oprah could look like except I don’t think Harry will tell unless they continue this harassment.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      NotSoSimpleTaylor, I keep thinking that the Firm needs to start looking past the end of their collective noses. Have they taken the time to discover what is being said worldwide about this series? Do they understand that the brf is actually harming their brand by their reactions? The world sees what the British media is saying and then compares it to The Me You Can’t See that their watching.

      They do know that their reach doesn’t go beyond the UK, right?

      • NotSoSimpleTaylor says:

        I don’t think they do. But I also think if you put a 95 year old woman in charge this is the expected result.

      • Sid says:

        Saucy, they think they are untouchable. To this day I don’t think the BRF even realizes (or maybe they refuse to accept) that a big part of the “popularity” they enjoy outside of the UK is because of Diana, and the way the public interest in her transferred to her children. Without her they probably would have just had a slightly higher global profile than the rest of the Euro royals and continued to fade within the global consciousness.

  42. L4frimaire says:

    Like you guys have said before on this, there is definitely a phoning it in aspect of the outrage on this, like they’re grasping for ways to make Harry look bad on this. It’s like that ship has sailed, the series is getting so much praise and acclaim, and the royals are just a bit player in this, and frankly, look thirsty trying to center this around them.

  43. jferber says:

    “Gobsmacked” is such an ugly word, isn’t it? That and “incandescent with rage” are so, so over the top and boring (I use that word in the British sense: lookin’ at you, William). These words make them look like a bunch of maniacs, which surely, they are. Oh, and Harry doesn’t need the queen’s “permission” to do anything.

  44. Mads says:

    I sometimes wonder if the Queen thinks about the Louis XV quote “apres moi, le deluge”. She must know Charles and William don’t command anywhere near the affection that she holds – mainly because she has been monarch for aeons and the establishment and media use her as a proxy to advance a nationalist agenda.

    CH and KP are commencing their offensive to malign anything that puts Charles and/or William in a bad light. Sometimes, I despair at the cesspit that is social media but it has its place when it counters the propaganda.

  45. Noor says:

    To quote an old proverb, you reap what you sow.

    Never before has a royal wife of a British Prince been so badly treated as was Meghan who did no wrong and performed impeccably well as a senior working royal.

    As of now The Queen is presiding over a House Divided amidst warring grandsons.

  46. SenseOfTheAbsurd says:

    Queen’s just a stalking horse for the courtiers. But headlines of ‘prissy self-important snob who’s never had a real job is mildly petulant about some made-up bullshit’ just won’t be taken seriously

  47. Catherine says:

    I think this ‘permission from the Queen’ trope is just nonsense made up by the Mail. Any such discussion would have been years ago and before Harry left the business. He is a grown, self supporting man and doesn’t need anyone’s permission to talk about his life. Also, delusions of reference: the documentary has very little to do with them.