We can play the “what would Princess Diana have thought about this or that” game all day long. The truth of the matter is that everything would be so different if Diana had survived the car crash in 1997, or if she had never been in the car (or in Paris) in the first place. I tend to believe her sons would not be the men they are today – for better and for worse – nor would Harry and William have chosen the wives they chose, had Diana still been around. There would have been a completely different timeline, reality and royal vibe. But sure, if William had still ended up married to Kate and Harry had still married Meghan, and the brothers had some kind of crazy rift, Diana would be pissed. So says Andrew Morton:
Princess Diana wanted nothing but for her sons, Prince William and Prince Harry, to be best friends and sources of support for one another as they faced the pressures of royal life. And now that the two brothers are embroiled in a “fierce and bitter” argument, one of her close confidants says there’s “no question” she would have been heartbroken by the rift.
“Diana said to me quite clearly on several occasions that she saw Harry as the wingman for William in what ultimately would be a very solitary, somber job as future king,” shared Andrew Morton on Friday’s episode of the U.K. talk show Loose Women.
“She would have been very upset at the way these two have split apart,” added Morton, who clandestinely worked with the princess on the 1992 biography Diana: Her True Story.
Morton believes Diana would have taken an active role in repairing the fractures in the brothers’ relationship: “Knowing [the brothers’] personalities intimately, as a mother would do, she would be working out, perhaps with Prince Charles by her side, a way to reconcile them.”
Eh. Maybe Diana saw Harry as a “wingman” or whatever. Maybe she did say that to Morton, who knows. She said to many people that Harry would make a better king temperamentally though, and one of her nicknames for her younger son was “Good King Harry.” Her nickname for William was “Basher” because he was always throwing tantrums and bashing things. I think she picked up on the fact that William’s temperament was always going to be an issue and that’s why William “needed” Harry. But in that scenario, she never expected Harry to forgo having a life beyond being William’s wingman. Plus, in her last years, she and William were growing apart. He apparently screamed at her for doing the Martin Bashir interview, and just recently William called his mother gullible and a paranoid liar. My guess? Diana would be upset about her sons’ rift, but mostly she would be so frustrated that William turned out so much like his father.
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I doubt it. But have you seen this article in the Sun just moments ago? I wont link it, but it reads “Royal Family news – Prince Harry must DIVORCE Meghan Markle if he ever wants to heal rift with William, expert claims”
“Now royal expert Hugo Vickers has said their is no chance of the brothers ending the feud while Meghan is around because her husband is simply too “under the thumb” to realise the damage he’s done to his brother.
‘I don’t know what they can do under the present circumstances… Harry has got to wake up to what’s going on. It’s a very unpleasant situation,” he told The Express.
‘Harry is so under the thumb of Meghan it is not really possible until he emerges from that,” he added, hinting that ending his relationship with the Duchess might be the only way to fix relations with his brother.”
So Harry must divorce his wife and deny his children so that he could live a life of misery like William….can’t make this BS up if you tried
how very Christian of them (considering that, as monarch, William will be the head of the Church of England)
Hugo Vickers needs to be slapped in the head. Maybe then his brain will start working again.
Awesome! I’m taking this as confirmation that the cambridge marriage is done. We all know how they project.
How many people’s parents want them to be a
Dr or a lawyer? Thems the breaks. William is purely toxic and selfish. Harry has set boundaries accordingly. The end.
And there it is….. Its what they’ve always wanted. They want to abandon his wife and 2 children under the age of 5 and run back to ‘support’ his big brother who was given all the training to be king. If I were Meghan and her kids, I would never set foot in England and I would triple or quadruple the security around me.
Have none of these people realized Harry is scheduled to make a speech tomorrow? He could just not show up and then address it when he gets back to the U.S. or he could comment on it during his speech while standing next to William. I understand Harry is a class act and the unveiling is about his mom. But he could say something like how much like Diana, Meghan is. How hard working and caring of others. And how he can’t wait to get back to her and his kids. And how supporting they are of each other. It would be subtle but everyone would get he’s talking about William & Kate.
What revisionist nonsense is this?
Wasn’t Diana quoted, while still living, as saying Harry had the temperament to be king from birth and William just didn’t and would tantrum into his teens?
facts dont matter to the RR and the royal “experts”
^^^ This @DellT!!!
I’m sure she did say that. I think we need to remember that Diana was far from perfect though. It’s been well documented that Diana used William as a best friend to unload her troubles to. It sounds as though he was expected to grow up far more quickly and was treated quite differently to Harry. Then add in the comparisons he was getting. I wonder whether he felt that whatever consequences happened as a result of the Bashir interview, he would have to somehow deal with them? That’s a lot for a child.
I know we live in a different time now and have more awareness of what our parenting might be doing to our kids but I think that when we look at both William and Harry, we can see how Charles and Diana screwed up, each in their own way.
Unfortunately we can’t always see the consequences of our actions until it’s too late and perhaps I’m being naive but I’d also like to believe that both Charles & Diana were doing the best job they knew how, like most parents.
Considering neither Charles or Diana had good parents, I am sure they did the best that they could. Somethings probably were not left up to them because of the Firm.
“…….perhaps I’m being naive…”
Pffft! More than just naive, I would say. Perhaps disingenuous would be a much better descriptor.
@graceb did Diana herself ever describe her relationship with will like this or has it come from everyone but her. I know it’s a running assumption but what’s the original source for the assertion that she was so inappropriate with William?
@GraceB-William was not treated quite differently from his Mum. There are many accounts that she wanted the boys treated equally-by her and, oddly enough, by Charles. The Firm and other “senior palace members” had a problem with them beings treated as equals or doing normal things. The Queen Mother being one of them. Diana wanted them to experience and know there was life outside the palace walls. Courtiers and others didn’t like that. Harry is living a life Diana would have been proud of. Diana would not want to see Harry as a ‘spare’ or ‘scapegoat’ to his brother. She definitely would not have liked KP’s smear campaign against Meghan.
I wish they would stop speculating. Diana didn’t just die. She’s been dead for nearly 24 years so for him to talk about what she would have wanted is ridiculous. A lot could have changed in that time. Of course no mother wants to see her children feeding but at the age of 60 she probably would have really been done with the RF toxic behavior. Heck William probably wouldn’t be so angry if his mom was here but would’ve could’ve should’ve won’t help anyone.
British press making money off Diana fanfic is about as scummy as it gets.
Lots of moms want their kids to be best friends. Most understand that their children are gonna have their own lives and that they can’t control their kids’ relationships. I’m sure Diana would be in the same boat, wanting her kids to be happy with themselves and with each other.
Of course she would – I think any mother would be the same in this situation.
But my big question is: which one of these outfits is Top CEO going to cosplay at her next outing? My money is on the first one – the white and dark blue outfit with the BIG SHINY BUTTONS down the front.
My bet is she will copy the woman that has captured Williams heart.
Carole?
The lawyer
@DU, I agree with your first sentence. And your question is hilarious.
First of all, Diana would have clocked the Middletons as the desperate social climbers they were and nipped that in the bud EARLY.
I think if she was around she probably would have mediated between Harry and William. She probably would have made William see what an asset Meghan was and to accept her presence and work WITH her and not against her. Both Meghan and Harry have said they wanted to make it work but William and Kate made that untenable so they had to leave for their sanity.
I also think she would be happy for Harry to have his own life if that’s what he wanted.
Also, SHAME on these people for laying it on SO thick trying to guilt Harry into doing their bidding. They are throwing everything and the kitchen sink at him. I think they know after this the next opportunity they will have will be a year from now. And once the Queen is gone, all hope is lost.
Snuffles, agree with the Middleton clan! Diana would have steered TOB far away from THAT family! If TOB had chosen Kate Keen, there would have been bloodshed, and Diana would have come out as the winner.
I also agree with your statement in regards to what they are doing to Harry and that once TQ is gone, there will be no reconciliation. Especially since TOB is one step closer to being king. TOB is already salivating as the years pass and he becomes closer to being the king that will probably destroy the Monarchy.
Will wouldn’t have gotten to faff off on royal duties either. No part-time helicoptering and no Dad dancing. Di would’ve made sure he had a work ethic.
Ma Middleton would never have gotten her fangs into Willy if Diana were around. I also think if Diana were around, things may have been worse with Charles and Diana vying for power between the boys. We would have an entirely new drama on our hands.
BUT I do agree that Diana would never like the Middletons.
Unpopular opinion, but I actually think Diana may have accepted the Middletons and befriended them? She was always kind to commoners and was even willing to (initially) strike up a playful friendship with Fergie (unlike a certain Keen Future Queen who sharp-elbowed her sister-in-law from the onset). If Will chose Kate, I actually think Diana would’ve been supportive, and you KNOW the Middletons would’ve cozied up to her like no other. Later in her adult life, Diana hung out with many celebrities and politicians so I don’t think she would’ve shunned the Middletons for their hustle and aspirations.
I will add though, that she would’ve voiced concern for Kate’s lack of ambition and maybe looked down on her anachronistic views of the monarchy. Almost goes without saying that 100% she would’ve supported Harry’s choice of a wife and life decisions.
It absolutely galls me how these people are still making money off of her dead bones. No one knows what/how she would be thinking today. She would be a completely different person at this stage in her life. But honestly, how awful is it to be the first born in that family? It’s like a death sentence.
Yes, we could play the, “if Diana was alive now”, game until the end of time, but the current scenario of the brothers, is largely due to the “basher” being the bully, throwing habitual tantrums and smearing of his brother and SIL that has caused this rift. TOB is cut from the same cloth as Charles, that I will agree with.
TOBB got the WORST part of both of his parents. Completely. Harry seems to be the opposite.
Burning question, what’s the first B stand for in TOBB? Bald?
What Feeshalori said. What does the first B stand for?
“Perhaps with Prince Charles by her side, a way to reconcile them.” LOL what utter bullcrap.
Diana would be sad like any mother would, so? Doesn’t mean she would want Harry to sacrifice his family, well-being, pride and everything to be Willy’s doormat.
These selfish a-holes are trying everything to guilt-trip Harry, to be by his brother side and be his scapegoat (as if they’re not doing that already), to make him look better.
Alas, nothing will ever make Willy the Rage monster look anything but that.
“she never expected Harry to forgo having a life beyond being William’s wingman”
But the Royal Family did and that’s why they (especially Harry and Charles) are unable to accept that Harry was unhappy in the role and wanted a life of his own.
THIS is why they’re going after Harry so hard. The chair is not supposed to talk back. Harry wasn’t supposed to figure that he was a person, not an asset.
For the RF, Harry was born to be used: cute kid pics for the paps when he was small, whipping boy to throw to the wolves to distract from William’s awfulness all the time, ditto workhorse to do stuff to make William look good, and THEN, after all of that, the cherry on the Sundae…
After spending his whole life like this, never being allowed to develop independence or skills or a career to function on his own, when he aged out of being “the cute one” and William’s kids were old enough to start working, they could start the “Harry is a useless freeloader who refuses to take care of himself and his decadence and wastefulness is draining the Monarchy” narrative to make William and fam look better.
Everyone is so incandescently angry that Harry noped out of that. And scared out of their minds because Harry leaving upends the very bedrock of how they operate. They desperately needed him, but it never occurred to them that the family doormat should be treated with decency and respect.
I think Diana wanted her children to be happy, and Harry is happy at last.
Merricat, I agree. We all know that Diana wasn’t a perfect person, but the one thing that everyone knows is that she loved her boys. That was so clear. You were always seeing her hugging them, or catching their eyes at events to smile at them. If “she would have been very upset at the way these two have split apart” it would be because her eldest son is doing to her youngest son’s wife what PC did to her in the BM (except they also were racist and xenophobic with M). If we’re going to project, well I think she’d be very happy that Harry became the loving and supportive husband and father that PC never was.
The fact that this is being written now after some of the articles this week trashing Diana is making these people come across as having split personalities. The only thing I can assume is that they DO NOT want Harry back. If they did, they wouldn’t be writing this stuff.
Lots of people have dreams for their children or certain paths they see their children taking but that doesn’t mean their children see it that way. To me, to wish one of your children to forevermore be subservient to the other is odd. Even IF this were what Diana wanted, so what? People need to live their lives with what makes them happy and a caring parent would support whatever career or life choice a child made that made the child happy and fulfilled.
“Wingman” can have different meanings to different people. TO ME, it means being supportive, being an ear to listen, to give advice. I think (JMO) that THIS is Diana’s meaning.
It does NOT mean to be subservient, a crutch, a whipping boy; to subjugate your own happiness /life for another…as apparently it does to TRF.
I feel that wingman is quite different from scapegoat.
The crisis managers have a task on their hands. How do you keep the future future committed but rein him in to keep from damaging the BRF brand internationally.
They are not doing a good job.
I think there’s a huge difference between Diana saying “I want Harry to be William’s wingman and live his life in service to his brother forever and ever for the good of the crown” and Diana acknowledging that the royal machine casts the spare in the wingman position for the heir.
I would believe the latter. This is just more spin and completely incongruous with every single other statement or action Diana made during her life.
Harry was not in William’s team, he was USED by William’s team.
I actually think that if she was alive she and William would have become estranged, especially as he was already pulling away from her in his teens, finding her love life and her giving interviews on her private life to the press embarrassing, and Liz and Chuck would have been able to pull him into grooming as future King a lot more easily without the angst over Diana’s death, the Middletons wouldn’t have gotten in not because Diana was alive, but because William would have more easily followed the firm’s Plans for his future
If she was alive the RF and the media would have continued to use her as a distraction and scapegoat.
My father used to say – if we had ham, we could have ham and eggs…if we had eggs. But maybe we should have a séance – call up Diana AND Prince Phillip. In fact, I’ll do that right now and get back to you with my expert opinion.
I also think that Diana would have been dismayed but not surprised that William has become a full on Windsor.
Sure…but she wouldn’t have wanted Harry to be forever in service to William. And is William ever going to be Harry’s wingman or is this just a one-way street?
It doesn’t make sense for her to want a life for Harry that she didn’t want for herself. She didn’t want to be subservient to Charles (even if I’m sure she wasn’t intentionally trying to outshine him), so why would she want Harry to be William’s wingman? Didn’t she say that Harry was like her? She wouldn’t have tried to show them a different life if she had wanted them to continue in the footsteps of previous royals.
You’re completely right! It’s just insane the fan fiction and attempts to guilt Harry into subservience and a lifetime of humiliation…all to lift up William who can’t seem to do so himself.
IDK, Diana wasn’t the type to suffer in silence for the sake of the future king and institution so I don’t think she would’ve expected it of Harry.
Harry quite literally said in the me you can’t see that right now he’s living the live his mother wanted him to live. These people need to let harry go already. He’s not their son.
@Cecilia…PERIOD
Not these people gaslighting harry yet again.
Harry in the me you can’t see: “i think she would be incredibly proud of me. I’m living the life she wanted me to live. The life she wanted US to live”
Andrew moron because diana granted him a bit of time: she would have been disappointed and wanted harry to be williams whipping boy as he will be head of state one day.
I think Diana instinctively knew her sons’ personalities would diverge. Newborn Harry had ginger hair (still does, of course!). Charles was livid about this, thinking he didn’t look Windsor enough. He saw him for only half an hour post-birth before driving off to play polo. Diana called Harry her “Little Spencer”. I know these are physical attributes, but perhaps she foresaw separate characters based on separate family traits. I don’t think she’d be that surprised at how things have played out for her William and Harry.
Well, first off, the royal family looked very different when Diana was still alive. There was no talk of “slimming down” as far as I’m aware. So she probably figured Harry was going to be part of this for the rest of his life, and if he could help even out some of William’s issues, all the better.
But I think if she’s seeing what’s been going on, she’s nothing but proud of Harry for getting his wife the eff out of there and protecting her in a way that no one protected Diana.
It’s also just kind of a useless argument. If Diana had lived, everything would have been different for those boys. Let’s not even get into her role as a parent etc – just not walking behind their mother’s coffin as children would have been life-changing, you know?
I remember “slimming down” talk going back a long way, certainly at least to the 80s, if not before. Memory not clear, but thinking it started with Philip. I’m old enough to remember all the articles about Charles as the irresistible to the ladies “action man.”
Two real problems. 1) You have people who have no idea about how people earn money demanding that equally sheltered suddenly start supporting themselves. This leads to the sorts of corruption we’ve seen with Andrew, Edward, Sophie, and Michael(s) of Kent. It doesn’t help that they are part of a culture that looks down on people who need to earn a living. 2) Charles has the weakness of deciding that “downsizing” is the way to go, without the capacity to understand the implications of what this means. People should “earn their way.” But what does that mean? What are the implications of that for the fact that the Royal Family is supposed to be neither political nor corrupt. Lots of CEOs have a similar problem. Get rid of your lowest performing employees sounds great, but after a few rounds of layoffs inevitably your good people start not wanting to work together because they don’t want to risk being the weakest person on a team. Philip’s downsizing was probably about right, but Charles thinks he can do better. We all hate Andrew, but would the situation be better or worse if Charles cut him off. Harry has been able to handle making his own money. But Andrew? Or Edward?
Harry offered to stick around. What did they want him to do, move in wth William and Kate? This is a mess of their own making and now they want Harry to fix it. Plus, divorce won’t change anything. If Harry came back to the UK, Meghan would come with him. She’s not giving up her kids and no way Harry is leaving Archie and Lili behind. They know this, that’s why that Hugo Vickers is saying nonsense for click bait. Plus if Meghan and Harry divorce what’s her incentive to keep quiet about everything which is really what they want.
As a parent of two kids (son and daughter) who do not always get along, I can say that it is hard to see, and you do your best to ensure that they support and respect each other, while not expecting them to be BFFs or anything (though that would be nice). Still, no way would any mother, certainly not Diana, want one child to sacrifice his happiness for the other. Well, unless that mother/parent is a Windsor, I guess. Plus I’m just part of a family, we’re not a “firm” or business.
I think Diana might have seen that Kate was not up to the job and would not be happy in the role, actually, so she would have discouraged the relationship. She knew what it was like.
No she didn’t. They know nothing about what she wanted for her sons unless she told them. Liars and fantasist the lot of them.
Of course she did. Up until Meghan, that’s literally all Harry saw for himself too. Princess Margaret was the Queen’s support. Charles was supposed to have Andrew, but obviously Anne is the better one to lean on. She also thought that Harry’s kids would be working Royals. Diana hated the family not the system.
Margaret chose to be the Queen’s support because she wanted access and power. Harry feels that he doesn’t need that so his choices are different. Of course there weren’t many choices for women during that time. It takes a lot of courage to strike out on your own.
I think Diana would be extremely disappointed with the mistreatment by William to his younger brother. William chose to protect the “Firm” and his personal image over protecting and looking out for Harry. All they had was each other after their mother’s passing. Prince Charles has been missing from this whole feud between the brothers. He’s the only living parent, and he’s often off somewhere touring or shaking hands with strangers instead of sorting the issues out between his sons.
He’s allowed William to run amok and bully his brother. Now, to make matters even worse, William has been going after his brother’s wife. When Diana was alive, she kept William in check; with her no longer around, he’s become increasingly unstable. Perhaps, that’s the real reason for all the leaks about Harry being needed, to return by William’s side.
I highly doubt that Diana a woman and a mother who tried to give her children a normal a life as possible away from the palaces and stuffiness would have wanted her younger son to be the doormat and punching bag for his older controlling. Angry brother. I am sure since she didn’t have a husband that loved and put her first that she would have been over the moon that her son Harry managed to find it in a woman who thinks the world of him . That’s what I think.
Andrew Morton is just as evil as the rest of the so-called royal historians and authors. He gets a huge pass because everyone associates him with the Diana tapes, and he’s therefore thought of as her great defender, her untainted opportunity to get her story out there.
In reality, he did exactly what we’re watching Lacey do in real-time. His original edition was more Diana’s side of the story, and then he did an abrupt about-face while she was still alive and published an addendum Diana: Her New Life in which he heaps abusive, gaslighting accusations and characterizations on her that had so transparently come directly from the palace that it must’ve made her head spin. F*ck Andrew Morton.
From my non-involved distance, I’ve always assumed that Harry was more like Diana–sensitive and unassuming, but aware that he, would always be in William’s shadow (as she was in Charles’) and William is more like Charles, entitled and spoiled, but a bit jealous that despite being “the heir apparent”, lacked the common touch that made Diana (and Harry) so beloved by so many people.
In all these years. Morton had never said anything like this. However there are videos and audio of Diana talking extensively about how she felt she had to protect Harry from the institution, from the trap on being the spare. She did not want his life defined by that. I’m sure as a mother she wanted them to be close but as Kaiser pointed out it also pretty clear that she saw some of the “difficulties” of William’s personality. Morton has clearly been positioning himself on the the royalist side of the Sussex vs Royal Family drama since their departure. He tried to position himself as a Meghan expert but his book didn’t sell so he pivoted. It’s been interesting to watch the British press that demonized him when he was firmly on the Diana side of the Diana vs Royal Family drama embrace him and treat him like an expert on Harry and Meghan because he goes along with a lot of their narratives.
He wasn’t firmly on the side of Diana, though. The royal family got to him in the 90s and he pulled a Lacey and wrote an addendum to his book that was entitled Diana: Her New Life (I found an audiobook of it at my local library). It was a complete and total hit piece on Diana, fully propagandized by the palace. He gets such a pass because people always associate him with those tapes, but he’s just as bad as the rest of them and had betrayed her while she was still alive.
@Catherine, “Morton has clearly been positioning himself on the the royalist side of the Sussex vs Royal Family drama since their departure.”
Yep, ita. He had never said anything like this before as you said. Could not find anything earlier either. Diana wanted them to be happy. Diana wanted them to find love and protect that love. That is what Harry is doing.
In all these years. Morton had never said anything like this. However there are videos and audio of Diana talking extensively about how she felt she had to protect Harry from the institution, from the trap of being the spare. She did not want his life defined by that. I’m sure as a mother she wanted them to be close but as Kaiser pointed out it also pretty clear that she saw some of the “difficulties” of William’s personality. And by her own words and actions she clearly saw the traps of living within the institution. Morton has clearly been positioning himself on the the royalist side of the Sussex vs Royal Family drama since their departure. He tried to position himself as a Meghan expert but his book didn’t sell so he pivoted. It’s been interesting to watch the British press that demonized him when he was firmly on the Diana side of the Diana vs Royal Family drama embrace him and treat him like an expert on Harry and Meghan because he goes along with a lot of their narratives. And as an above commentator pointed out Morton “flipped” on Diana when it was convenient to do so.
Oh, it’s not fair to say they were growing apart. It’s normal for teens/preteens to becoming independent and separate from their parents. I have two myself and it’s an awkward phase but completely normal.
If mom did see Harry as William’s wingman she was wrong. No parent has the right to decide their own child’s destiny. Its up to them to succeed or fail on their own talents. Mexit ends the practice of sutee in which the spares and their children sacrifice their lives and ambitions to serve the crown until the next heir comes to power. Its a new world the rota needs to get used to it.
Agreed. I also take umbrage with the claim that Diana called Harry the “Good King Harry.” While I know we are not here to bash Diana’s parenting skills, if that were the case, I feel like that would create even more jealousy/animosity between siblings. And yes, I say this as the Harry in my family dynamic. I was constantly pitted against my homecoming queen/model/perfect sister…and ugh, the years in therapy have worked, but ugh….
TLDR: I really hope Diana didn’t call him the Good King Harry. That’s rough.
“Diana would be upset about her sons’ rift, but mostly she would be so frustrated that William turned out so much like his father.“
THAT PART.
Oh yes, agree completely.
I’m sure she wanted them to be close friends but I highly doubt that she wanted Harry to spend his life in servitude to William and have no life of his own. She l did leave Harry “vex’ money so he had an escape route….
Harry is not going to dump Meghan unless it’s adultery. PERIOD. Harry gave a shout out to Meghan at the Diana Awards and THE SUSSEXES are providing a 30 page response to the bullying claims. Harry and Meghan prove over and over they are ride or die.
your comment made me chuckle. I guess having been in that second child, one month postpartum phase of life, lactating, carrying the extra weight, body still sore, sleep deprivation, and the idea of adultery on Meghan’s part….hahahaha… I just specifically recall telling my husband “IM NEVER HAVING SEX EVER AGAIN!!” LOL. And at the time I genuinely meant it.
I honestly think that given the circumstances that had Diana lived, the second Harry got caught in his drink and drug scandal along with the Nazi uniform scandal, she would never have allowed him back in London and told him to quit right then and there. I also think she would have severed ties with William completely by the time he finished college but would have gotten Harry out of there by his 21st birthday.
She would have provided for Harry, probably gotten him the help he needed for the dyslexia, sent him off to university, and they’d have teamed up for work with various charities. I do not think he would have joined the military. I honestly think he would have just hooked up with Meghan sooner and saved her the trouble of her 1st marriage. In this very day, very little would have changed except Harry would be much more open about the childhood PTSD of living as a royal minus the trauma of losing his mother. So it would be him putting a few more years behind him with the protection of his mother, instead of isolation from his family and actively processing his trauma for all the world to see.
You think she would have abandoned her child because she wasn’t happy with his personality? What kind of mother would do that? I’m sure she would have tried to help BOTH her children to the best of her ability.
Lili Diana is not even a month old and the usual wants her father to abandon their family to return to the unending syndrome of “Mirror Mirror on the wall, who is the fairest of them all”.
I would like to think that these individuals speak for themselves and are just empathetic towards the NPD individual who can be highly deceptive. I say this on compassion grounds but most likely they are uninterested in Harry’s well being.
That and the misogynistic attitude towards Lili’s mother.
It is appalling that they have no compulsion showing their lack of proper manners and disrespect towards this man, with the consent of his brother.
Meghan’s presence in Harry’s life meant that he could no longer ignore the elephant in the room – his brother’s toxic behaviour. She will not be the casualty of his mental illness.
Harry has the option to continue self care. This is possible by distance and avoiding bitterness.
Parents all have ideas of what they see for their kids.
I really doubt Diana viewed Harry as a wingman for Wills.
More likely she knew how awful The Men in Grey, the Palace insiders, the BRF, the Paps and Press could be and she wanted her sons to be happier in life than she ever was.
Diana was treated very badly.
I believe she would have wanted her sons to be close as they really were the 2 at the front and both could understand the system of The Firm, and the danger of crossing that system.
Yes, I do think Diana was plotted against, spied upon, and harassed most of her life.
Btw, IMO, if William wants to be King one day, he best find a way to make peace with H&M.
Diplomacy lessons are needed ASAP.
William is a spoiled man child who needs to behave as an Adult and Professional.
Charles will be lucky to hold it together long enough for Will to inherit, never mind George.
Just to intersect; Harry is ex-forces, your life priorities change when bullets fly, no matter who you are. H came back from Afghanistan changed just look at Invictus. Sadly war leaves invisible scars, it makes you think of what could/might have been and when he got home and it was just him to think about, he was prepared to “serve the crown”. However, after he met Meghan he realised he had to be something more and like every good squaddie had an exit/backup plan, a “just in case” plan, if you will! Meghan gave him the opportunities, support and contacts he hadn’t had before so, for him, the choice between being PW “wingman” or being a happy family man wasn’t really that much of a choice.
This is beyond crazy. No parent expects one child to sacrifice their own life and happiness for the sake of their sibling’s happiness.
When are these people going to accept that Harry has moved on, he has forged a life for himself outside that fishbowl. He is never coming back.
What argument? William doesn’t like the woman that Harry married. That seems to be the “argument”. William won’t be satisfied until his brother abandons his wife and children, it seems.
This isn’t an argument. This is a tantrum by William and he can’t get his own way this time even if he holds his breath until he turns blue. So he’s not going to share the royal toys with his little brother. He won’t, he won’t, he won’t. Fortunately, little Harry has decided he can find better toys, isn’t really bothered, and has gone off to play with the neighbors.