Lorde is ‘a hothouse flower, a delicate person & a massive introvert’

Lorde at The Late Show With Stephen Colbert

Lorde’s new album, Solar Power, comes out on August 20th. I can’t even publish the album cover because Lorde really did get her ass out. But the message is there, apparently: get your ass out. Put down your phone. Stop fussing over everything. Enjoy yourself. In case anyone needed to have that underlined, Lorde chatted with the NY Times about the album, what she was doing in the four years in between Melodrama and Solar Power, and how it’s sexist to talk about how Jack Antonoff has a stable of female singer-songwriters he produces and he’s the one responsible for their success. You can read the full Times piece here. Some highlights:

Where she’s been for four years: “I went back to living my life,” she said of her recent hiatus, identifying as “a hothouse flower, a delicate person and a massive introvert,” drained after a year-plus of promotion and touring for “Melodrama.” “It’s hard for people to understand that. The question I’ve gotten a lot recently is, ‘What have you been doing?’ I’m like, ‘Oh, no, no, no — this is a break from my life.’ I come back and perform these duties because I believe in the album.”

She was addicted to the internet: “I would see my screen-time go to like, 11 hours and I knew it was just looking at the Daily Mail. I remember sitting up in bed and realizing I could get to the end of my life and have done this every day. And it’s up to me to choose, right now. So I just sort of chose.”

She changed her phone settings & learned to live: Lorde’s phone, set to grayscale, now has no internet browser; she is locked out of her social-media apps, with others handling the passwords; and a coder friend even made YouTube inaccessible on her laptop. Instead, she cooked, baked, walked the dog, swam, gardened — chilled, in other words.

She’s not anyone’s savior: “I’m aware of the way people look at me. I can feel the huge amount of love and devotion that people have for me — and for people in my position — and straightaway, I wanted to be like, ‘I’m not the one that’s worthy of your devotion. I’m essentially like you.’ My kids — my community — they’re expecting spiritual transcendence from me, from these works. ‘I need Lorde to come back and tell me how to feel, tell me how to process this period in my life!’ I was like, oh, man, I don’t know if I can help you with that. But what I do know is that if we all look up here, it’s going to help you a lot!”

For the album, she only used a single 808 drum machine: “There’s definitely not a smash. It makes sense that there wouldn’t be a smash, because I don’t even know really what the smashes are now.”

She’ll never make another “Royals.” “What a lost cause. Can you imagine? I’m under no illusion. That was a moonshot.”

The third album: “I felt like I could just chill out and flex a little bit.”

Working with Jack Antonoff yet again: “I haven’t made a Jack Antonoff record. I’ve made a Lorde record and he’s helped me make it and very much deferred to me on production and arrangement. Jack would agree with this. To give him that amount of credit is frankly insulting.” She called the narrative — which has also included speculation about the pair’s romantic and sexual life — “retro” and “sexist.” “I know that there are certain hallmarks of what Jack does and some of those things I really love and some of them I don’t like. And I beat them out of the work that we do together. I say this with so much love and affection, but I feel like we’re doing up a house together and he’s like, ‘Look at this serviette that I fashioned into the shape of two swans! Look at this set of woven baskets!’ And I’m like, ‘Great — one per room.’”

On her personal & professional relationship with Jack: “No one who’s in a job that isn’t my job has a relationship like the one I have with Jack. He’s like a partner to me. We’re in a relationship. It’s not a romantic relationship, but we’ve been in it for seven years, and it’s a really unique thing, so I don’t begrudge people maybe not being able to understand it.”

[From The NY Times]

Am I alone in still listening to Pure Heroine though? She really did capture lightning in a bottle with her first album. Melodrama wasn’t bad at all – she has some real bops in there, and I think she grew as a pop songwriter. I’m curious about her personal and lyrical evolution for the third album – what was precocious as a 16-year-old might seem patronizing as a 24 year old. That being said, I like that her message is go offline, get a life, make friends, go for a walk, etc. It would be very easy for her – as it’s easy for many artists – to keep her fans agitated, aggrieved and engaged with her drama.

As for the Jack Antonoff stuff… there is that same-y quality to the records he produces though. That’s why Lana started to sound a bit Taylor-ish and why Taylor definitely started sounding Lana-ish and why Lorde leaned into a frothier sound on Melodrama and on and on. I’m not saying Jack is responsible for the careers of these women, but he is responsible for making them sound alike!

Lorde jams out at the Parklife Festival Manchester

Photos courtesy of Backgrid.

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  1. Noki says:

    I am so glad that whole Swifty Squad thing died,it was embarassing and some of the people who were in it ,it was beneath them and disappointing.

    • BothSidesNow says:


    • Kat says:

      Agree 100%. That entire “squad” fad looked like nothing more than calculated photo-ops designed to make TS look like a queen bee and to deflect from her clingy obsession with every guy she ever dated.

  2. equality says:

    Somebody who was on the Daily Mail for 11 hours a day definitely needed to shut down the internet.

    • BothSidesNow says:

      Yikes!! Spending 11 hours a day on the Daily Fail, which I can’t stomach for 10 minutes!!! How could anyone spend that much time on that awful website that degrades anyone who has integrity and substance?!?? No wonder she shut her internet off!!

  3. questions says:

    “Lorde’s phone, set to grayscale, now has no internet browser; she is locked out of her social-media apps, with others handling the passwords; and a coder friend even made YouTube inaccessible on her laptop. Instead, she cooked, baked, walked the dog, swam, gardened — chilled, in other words.”

    I should do this, At least for Youtube anyway…

  4. Sankay says:

    I was so impressed with her on the show Hot Ones, she didn’t break a sweat.

    • h-barista says:

      Came here to say that. I thought I was heat-tolerant, but she is next-level insane. Her whole performance was mesmerizing.

  5. Savu says:

    You are not the only one! There is something special about Pure Heroine. It is one-of-a-kind.

  6. manda says:

    I only really liked Pure Heroin, I did not like the last one at all and I haven’t enjoyed her new stuff. I really like her first album, and then she did a song with a DJ called disclosure (I think?) called magnets and it is an amazing song

    yes, it’s so easy to waste time online. I have the kindle app on my phone, so at least I try to read books more than whatever else

  7. grabbyhands says:

    No offense to her (Pure Heroine is a great album beginning to end, and kudos to her for recognizing that it is futile to try and reproduce that exact magic), but Jack Antonoff definitely has a sound and this is definitely his album, not hers (based on what I’ve heard so far). I’m a little underwhelmed from what I’ve heard so far – and that is coming from someone who liked Melodrama.

    • Laalaa says:

      I agree. Her 2nd album and Taylor’s stuff since Reputation and before Cardigan sound the same to me, there are no melodies, just many words sung on the same freaking tone.
      You can definitely tell it’s Jack on the album

    • SKF says:

      That’s gross. Please don’t diminish the work of women as belonging to a man that helped them.

  8. Daphne says:

    I think Lorde has a very unique POV and style throughout her albums. She is the lead oe only writer on her tracks. Jack seems to provide an important supporting role. For Taylor, I can listen to an album and say this one, this one, not this one, knowing from the sound which songs he co-wrote with Taylor. Melodrama is everything. Liability is chilling. Still sane from pure heroine I just listened to yesterday.

  9. Jane Smith says:

    I understand that she had a true addiction to the internet. I think it’s great that she did what was right for her by turning internet related things over to people that she trusts. However, I can neither bake, cook, garden or do any of my other hobbies without the internet. I have books on crochet and embroidery stitches, but still need YouTube to help me along. I’m living in the right era. Nothing but the best to Lorde on the new album!

  10. Liz version 700 says:

    She seems very grounded and rational for someone surrounded by the entertainment industry. Looking forward to her new album!

  11. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    I suppose I can understand and admire anyone going completely offline. If you’re a social (antisocial) media hound living through words of others, an off switch might sound like the only choice. Except for a bit if this site in the morning, I have no other place I post. Our local stations’ comment section gets my blood boiling… And I quit Facebook and all others many years ago making friends and family angry. Don’t care lol. I have this one tiny corner of the internet where most are relatively politically sane. Technology is awesome. I’ll never ever ever put it down. It will go with me everywhere. In my car. On my walks. It talks to me about my hobbies, cooking, and reminds me as gentle or as harsh as I deem necessary. It calmly wakes me up and will lull me into sleep through meditation and hypnosis. It’s my life’s soundtrack, and I can play any song any time any where perfecting a moment lol. I feed my love of space, art, literature, scientific studies and breakthroughs… Live without it? Never. Set it aside once I’ve located that certain cluster of stars or made that lasagne recipe I read about? No problem. Hey Google, play my third playlist.

  12. Otaku fairy says:

    I like how she just did and does her own thing as an artist without leaning into that ‘not like other girls’ crap. She never asked to be pitted against the Britneys, Christina, Beyonce, or anyone. Other folks tried to stir shit and project that onto her.

  13. MissMarirose says:

    Imagine taking years to “live life” instead of working.
    I just love it when actors and musicians let us know when they take massive amounts of time off work. Very relatable.

    • teecee says:

      You’re being very silly. She wasn’t doing the “public” stuff, but when do you think songs get written? Or books, or movies? And musicians, singers, actors, any kind of performer, whether you believe they are talented or not, have to rehearse. All of that is work.

      Even if these people were screwing around, so what? As long as they aren’t hurting anyone else, I don’t care.

    • questions says:

      I just thought she meant she was wasn’t doing promotion and concerts (when they go really, really hard). I feel they count their working time as when they release their album, not the time prior to it (even though there must be prep work happening, though not as intense ). Although if she wasn’t working in any capacity, I guess that would explain her addiction to the internet. Maybe that happened during the pandemic when everyone was getting a reset…

  14. Kim says:

    Anyone want to share their opinion of the Solar Power album cover? I don’t know what I think about it, but it took me aback. I need some help processing…!

    • Aphra says:

      I think it’s so startling/embarrassing/cringey because we expected “more” from her. More depth, more substance. Every time any one (but esp young women, because of a thousand years of art history objectifying them) shows T&A it’s a big sigh for me: “oh, this again. damn. another one bites the dust”.

      • Otaku fairy says:

        To be fair, immodesty doesn’t have to mean a lack of substance though. Plus, this world’s religions are full of covered up women and men lacking in substance and other things. I promise you this.

      • Wilma says:

        I’m a big prude myself, but I sort of feel that we need
        female nakedness and teach boundaries to men? Something like even if she is baring her ass, you still have to ask for consent? I get asked by male colleagues and the principal sometimes to talk to a student about the amount of skin she shows and I always refuse. Women need to be able to walk around as naked as they personally feel comfortable with, lord knows men do. I’ll be the prude that’s silently looking away 😉

    • Rose says:

      I’m no prude, but when I saw it I was like “oh honey no.” This is not necessary.

    • Isa says:

      I think if I had a booty like that I’d never wear pants.