One of my favorite gossip “things” is when royal commentators accidentally reveal some nugget of awful truth. It happens more often than people realize, and half the time, royal commentators actually know what they’re doing. Meaning, they’re actually trying to slam one royal while putting in the appearance of slamming another. It’s happened a lot over the years with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. There are so many smears, so many lies, so much hysteria and fake news, but every so often, the lies and hysteria boomerang back onto, say, William, Kate, Charles, Camilla or the Queen. Take Robert Jobson, who seems to be a bitter old fuss bucket masquerading as a royal commentator. Jobson hates Harry and Meghan and would do anything to protect the white royals. But Jobson accidentally told the truth and it’s really funny.
Robert Jobson on the damage Harry has caused: “I think Harry actually has probably done more damage. He’s up there in terms of the modern world of the damage that’s been created, he’s up there with the abdication. In terms of the feedback we’ve been getting, the damage of the institution, and the potential, we haven’t even seen it all yet. We’ve got the book coming out, the same year that his grandmother is celebrating 70 years on the throne.”
Robert Jobson on how the Sussexes have strained UK-US relations: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have strained the “great special relationship” between the UK and the US by making it “difficult” for the Royal Family to go to America. Since the airing of their bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview, the Sussexes have jeopardised the public image of the monarchy, by accusing them of racism and neglect. Speaking to GB News, royal commentator Robert Jobson said: “They still think the Royal Family are racist and all these things were said and I think it’s pretty poor for us. I think it’s going to be difficult actually for members of the Royal Family to go over to America. It’s all going to be about Harry and Meghan. Before, they were doing business with the great special relationship, trying to build relations with America and big trading partners – it’s all going to be about them.”
The power of the Ginger Prince! Harry leaving Dusty Saltine Isle was more damaging to the crown than King Edward VIII’s abdication huh? Is that because the international media got a good look at how provincial, psychotic and racist the Royal Industrial Complex really is? Is it because the way the media works these days, people aren’t just going to cover up for the royals anymore? As for what Jobson said about US-UK relations… hahahahahahaha, omg. It just occurred to them that if they send Keen Lynchpin and Elegant Baldimort over to America again, they’ll probably be booed. They’re finally getting it: Americans and the international media are not buying “Princess Kate is terribly keen about buttons and early years” anymore.
I still think about how Keen Lynchpin wore hot pink to the 9/11 Memorial.
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, Backgrid.
I hate that the RF is painted as some kind of victim of the circumstances, as if they didn’t make shitty choices over and over. All these years of history and they do the same thing over and over.
Guess they didn’t think Biden would win and Trump wouldn’t give them that trade agreement!
It’s gaslighting to make anyone reading believe the following:
“It’s worse to be called, thought a racist than to BE a racist”
Only neanderthals believe this.
Also royal experts believing the Queen’s son being sued for sexuaI abuse doesn’t impact the Monarchy’s brand.
The racists pinned all their hopes on Trump winning the election and making life so unbearable for the Sussexes they will be forced to come back with their tails between their legs. That of course did not happen and despite all the obstacles, they are thriving and showing up the Keens to be lazy and irrelevant in a modern world. To make matters worse, the Uk has effectively isolated itself with Brexit and was hoping to develop their special relationship with America using the soft power of some of the royals. For example, recent efforts to force Duchess McMumbles on Dr Jill Biden was a complete disaster. The RF has effectively walled itself in from an international stage. Good luck with that.
I’m UK and sadly you are right
Fantastic take! Need we add more?
Perfectly said!
That’s why I’m so happy that the next crown season is coming up surrounding all the wickedness that happened with Diana. If it was anything like earlier this year it’s gonna be a mess for the royal family because more people will now connect it to what happened to H&M.
This is what happened with a friend of mine and she was so disgusted with the family for what they’ve done to Harry and Meghan.
Totally agree with all of you.
I just hate how so much of the time, it’s framed as “Those stupid Americans really fell for Meghan’s act!!” Um, no.
We paid attention to what was going on, saw with eyes wide open how viciously Meghan was treated, how Harry’s family behaved at his wedding, and watched as the British media trashed and smeared Meghan every single day for YEARS for absolutely no reason whatsoever except the color of her skin, and we formed our opinions accordingly.
I guess the “dumb, gullible Americans” trope is what they need to tell themselves in order to soothe their wounded egos now that it’s clear that the US wants no part of anyone in that family except for Harry, Meghan, and their children.
TBH I hope the Cambridges do come to NYC because I would greatly enjoy booing and heckling them! At the very least, they can console themselves with the fact that they would be warmly welcomed by the Trumps.
We could all meet up to boo and heckle them together.
@Lorelei even better if no one turns up at all, and they are forced to face their irrelevance.
LOL, I had a really Good laugh at that. He may or may not be right, they can probably wing it anfg go anyway. but the most crucial thing is that they havent learned anything from this whole debacle, they have doubled down on the racism, and smear campagins. even in his article there is no acknowlegement that hey maybe we need to chill and come at this from a different angle instead of doing the same thing throwing Harry and Meghan under the bus, and blame them for the RF failures .
Lol. Yes, it does nothing for the “great relationship” to know that Meghan being an American was considered a flaw.
This.
And her race being brought into the equation as well.
The great relationship is suffering far more under Brexit. The UK needs to negotiate a new trade deal with the US and that can take years.
IIRC some of them actually said that Meghan wasn’t hated because she was black, she was hated because she was American.
It was even said on here repeatedly, by people defending the smear campaign etc! There were lots of comments like “well, to be fair, I dont think this has anything to do with skin color, its because she’s an American.” Because that is such a better look?
Don’t you love it when karma bites back? As if being an American is an abomination.
Another example of the their great PR- and diplomatic skills! They’re so used to be able to pull all the shit they want, without consequenses. Now that some of them realise they’ve fucked up big times, they blame Harry for marrying an american WOC. No regrets, no considerations of how their actions and words are perceived by the world outside their aristo bubble. Prett sure quite a few other european royal families are privately shaking their heads in disbelieve.
I always knew that most of the rest of the world views Americans as…somewhat dim (and to be fair, we *do* have plenty of morons here), but until Meghan came along, I hadn’t realized how deep the repulsion ran or just how strong the anti-American feeling was in the UK. I hope they enjoy losing LOTS of American tourism $$.
Lorelei, same. Not just England (I refuse to believe it of Ireland, Scotland, and Wales!), the view of Americans is so far below what I imagined, all over the world, just reading the comments here has shown that. Not among the regular posters, but the drive-by anti-American one off posters, yikes.
The Americans aren’t the ones supporting a family with millions of taxpayer dollars simply because an accident of birth. The gullible ones are the British who continue to keep the archaic monarchy going.
Plus many vehemently told her to go back home in the press and she did!
Yeah, I remember a bunch of people on here saying that the anti Americanism is what brought Meg down and not the racism. So all of those “niggling worries” and “straight outta Compton” headlines weren’t a problem? And the xenophobia wasn’t a much better defense either.
They weren’t counting on Meghan taking Harry with her! LOL.
This!! The BRF is constantly endorsing statements that MM was too American. Openly! Like it’s their official take. It’s like, okay then, we’ll take the hint buh byeeeee.
Maybe Americans prefer people who earned their money instead of stealing it from other people
Even as a Canadian-British citizen living in the U.K. the anti-American rhetoric made me really uncomfortable because I was suddenly like “wait, how many people over here are actually secretly hating me the second I open my mouth and they hear my accent?”
1. AHAHAHAA – they’re finally getting it. Even if Jobson accidentally said the quiet part out loud it still means they’re getting it.
2. This hot pink photos – JUST WEAR BLACK. OMG. The one time she doesn’t stick to the theme and she chooses then. OMG.
Because all eyes have to be on her. She can’t blend in, she has to somehow stand out. Whether it is color coordinating, imitating her late MIL, dressing like a pioneer woman or flashing her thighs and rear, Kate cannot simply BLEND in. She shows us over and over who she is.
It was an inconsiderate display that day with no thought of the circumstances or the venue she was at. I remember that occasion well living in New York. And if l recall correctly, she visited a children’s center afterwards where she wore black. A festive color at a somber memorial and a drab outfit for a visit with children. What in Sam Hill was she thinking? Oh, of course, only about being the center of attention.
She wore it on purpose to stand out in a sea of black.
Wearing hot pink at the 9/11 memorial was just classless. And Kate made a spectacle of herself dressing like that.
Remember when she wore that flowers dress with the open toed sandals to visit a concentration camp? I’m not saying she had to wear funeral garb for that, but the outfit was “off,” especially the summery shoes that we NEVER see her wear. I am pretty sure it was the one time that we have seen her wear open toed shoes during the daytime (i.e. not part of an evening/formal look.)
It’s like she doesn’t know how to dress to honor other countries tragedies (and 9/11 affected more than just americans, and the royal should know that, for example I know Cantor Fitzgerald has their annual day of charity trading in memory of the employees who lost their lives.
Yes. Another instance of Kate rarely wearing open toe shoes but deciding to do it at a concentration camp visit along with her floral outfit. It’s not like she doesn’t have more conservative outfits in her closet but she goes for bright and airy at a concentration camp. She’s a dummy really. Best to keep her away from serious things because she can’t seem to understand it.
Brand new floral dress, leather sandals, and flippy Breck Girl hair at the concentration camp. FYI leather shoes are inappropriate at Jewish funerals and cemeteries; I have a pair of black canvas shoes w/rubber soles for those events.
She wore pink for 2 reasons. She wanted to be the center of attention and she wanted to signal to everyone that she was having a girl. It was very inconsiderate, but she got a pass. I remember reading the comments on her visit and most of the royalists were all…well, she wanted to bring some light and happiness to the monument. It was insensitive then. Insensitive now.
I recall people defending this but really it only showed how Kate made things about herself, like she did with the recent vigil.
Are you sure she was pregnant with Charlotte then? I feel like this was much longer ago. I was actually surprised to see a bump at all in these pics bc it feels so long ago, I didn’t even think George was in the picture yet. And look how much younger Will looks. Can 6 years really do that? Now I gotta Google the time frame…
Holy sh*t. It really was when she was pregnant with Charlotte. Time is not being nice to these 2.
@Steph – yup, definitely Charlotte. I don’t think she did any international trips with George, and he wasn’t born until July, and I think that december (2012) was when they announced the pregnancy, maybe slightly before?
But yeah, I noticed the same things in these pictures – William looks SO much younger, and his actual face looks different. Maybe he was clenching his jaw less then? Even in this pics, where he’s not smiling and looks serious, he looks much more relaxed than he does now.
A gender reveal at a memorial for people killed in a terrorist attack. What a dummy.
Becks1, she had at least two with George. Once to spend three weeks sunning herself in Mustique, once to flit off to Switzerland for a wedding and sledding fun. But remember, ‘too sick to work’.
You be thankful Kate didn’t theme-dress to visit the 9/11 memorial. Can you even imagine? Given her need to “stand out” and be the focal point of interest in every event, she would have dressed like a stewardess (in honor of 9/11) & caused an international incident. Good thing she was pregnant too, that’s probably the only thing that stopped her.
She also laughed her OTT hyena laugh while at the Memorial, under an umbrella giggling away with William.
You guys… I think I’m spending way too much time reading about baldy and khate because I think she WAS theme dressing at the 9/11 memorial.
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She was cosplaying “American political style icon at searingly tragic event”
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She’s doing Jackie Kennedy in the pink suit. When JFK was shot.
Bingo!
The Windsor image damaged in the US and beyond? Chalk it up to karmic justice.
As an American, I don’t even know what the “Windsor image” is supposed to be. I mean, is it supposed to be good?
I’m no royal expert, but I would love to hear their explanation for why the abdication is still considered so damaging. I would think a known Nazi sympathizer bowing out from the head of state position, thereby paving the way for Elizabeth’s 70-year reign was probably the best thing that could have happened for this family.
Right? What a weird thing to still be harping on as “damaging”.
Shhh! We don’t say that out loud. Everyone was delighted to be shot of Edward and his nazi ways but that’s not the myth that’s been built up around Liz’s reign and the current batch of Windsors. They will ALWAYS be the victims while they toil away with their lives of public service plus of course the palaces, sycophants and being able to quietly change the laws of this country when they don’t like them.
RIGHT?!! It astounds me how these people and the media propping them up don’t realize how this makes them appear to the rest of the world, or really to anyone anywhere with a functioning brain cell. I think the issue is that they don’t realize that most people do not think the way they do anymore. In the 1950’s, maybe? But not now.
And I definitely don’t think they have fully wrapped their brains around the fact that they simply cannot control their narrative anymore and that they never will, ever again. People get their information in completely different ways now. They keep trying their old tricks, and they fail every time. Their thinking as well as their PR is stuck in a time that no longer exists.
@Sarah every day they remind me more and more of the Trumps. The projection, and now the constant feeling of victimization. Those families are two peas in a pod.
Right?!??? THIS needs to be the headline!
Let´s be honest here, the Windsors problems go beyond US and they know it. Middle aged brits have been told it is cheaper to keep the royals than to get rid of them and older people love The Queen. This is their prime audience. Charles is not loved by them- they are old enough to remember Charles wanting to be a tampon.
For those people, however, William is much more interesting. William knows this and plays the part, hence Catherine playing housewife. This is fine, but then Meghan came along and showed them the new generation finds the royals absurd and the US is just the stage where this gap between what the RF has and what they need to survive is much obvious.
Charles is fine. He is not loved, but he is old and he is next in line. Charles is comfortable doing what he wants to do, which is to get his revenge on his enemies. He does not care about popularity insofar as he is not publicly booed or Camilla is shamed, and since he waited for so long he reckoned their audience would be as tired as he was to do anything about it…
William however, has a problem. He insists the way forward is going back in time. Kate must play housewife, should be allowed to be lazy because that was what royals did when Victoria was alive, and William is counting on the politically conservative agenda. . William wants the fluffly pieces the royal rota gets them, he wants Kate to do whatever she wants on her corner, but he was told this is not enough and that is why he was so shook Harry went away- because he cannot play effectively for two different crowds.
Now, William´s gambit is being a conservative in all things but his PR. His PR machine is filled with talk about ” mental health” and ” environment”, not because he wants to compete with his father and brother, or because he cares about these themes, but because the younger generations do care and he wants to be seen as progressive by them while keeping the status quo not intact but frozen.
Meghan made this gambit impossible for William. Kate knows it and that is why her PR is so different from William and that is why now she seems to be playing both sides. It just happens that the US is where their game is more obvious and we are going to see more and more this schizophrenic PR blitzes from time to time, because they are trying to eat their cake and have it too.
A++ analysis. William really is screwed, isn’t he?
That is why William is all in with the ultra conservative crowd, who spent the past decades actively trying to change the zeitgeist.Those white men screaming ” you will not replace us”do not want PoC, LGBTQ+, foreigners etc to be equals. They want to dominate and anything that means they have to share is a loss to them- and to Will.
He wants to appear progressive to the new generation, but he also wants part of the new generation to buy into conservatism, yes.
I agree with you
Yep. In all of those polls that the tabloids do, William and Kate only come out on top with the older crowd who are primed to support the monarchy anyway. The Keens always lose when it comes to the millennials and Gen Z, the people who are needed for William’s reign. Incidentally, it’s H&M who have the support of the youth.
As an aside, I do think that William’s “work” with mental health and whatever else is him trying to compete with Harry. Remember all of those articles declaring William as the People’s Prince now that Harry is gone? Or the infamous The Other Brother article?
@JT, two things can be true, yes, and neither of these things means William really cares, which does say something about his priorities.
@Moderatelywealthy I definitely agree on that and anyway you slice it, William is in for a ride on top of his shady dealings with the press. They are going to ride him so hard for everything that they had to cover up for him.
I don’t even think they have much of the Gen X crowd because they would have been old enough to see what happened to Diana and to see William call her paranoid now would offend women in particular. And the latter part of Gen X would have grown up expecting women to be treated as equals so the 1950s cosplay would not play well at all to women who were little girls in the 70s and 80s. For Kate to never have worked in her 20s at all is also a huge turn off for mostly everyone except a very small conservative group.
@Nic919 That is why they are trying to sell hard the ” mother of three on a full time job” nonsense, mind you.
@ModeratelyWealthy, this is such a great post! You articulated it perfectly.
@Nic, Gen X’er here and you’re absolutely right. I think the fact that William knows exactly who his base is, and that he knows he will never be anywhere near as popular worldwide, or with celebrities, or with anyone under the age of 40-ish as his brother is absolutely INFURIATES him.
Thoughts and prayers to Elegant Bill.
Charles and Camilla are not popular with all but then again neither are william and Kate IMO.
Nic919, I am Gen X, and you nailed it. I can’t imagine Wills has any real Gen X support in the U.K., outside of really rich white people who are shaking in their polished boots. I think Harry and Meghan have the support of Gen X zipped up. Except for the white racists, of course, and who wants them?
I dont think The Windsors care all that much about America,i think they think its below them and its not even part of the Commonwealth. Even for holidays they prefer other countries,Kate was married before she even set foot in the US.
I think the difference is that they didn’t care but always had the option; now they’re realizing the option may not be there anymore. Like the person who never accepts invitations to parties but gets offended when they’re no longer given an invitation.
The US market was supposed to be a lock for the RF and now no one in the US respects or wants them anymore. The RF is now associated with racism, human trafficking, and rape. The gloves are off: Questions from the press won’t be softballs, but really serious ones about “what have you done to reform institutional racism,” “does the RF believe they are above the law,” “why won’t Andrew submit himself for questioning,” “who made the comments about the baby’s skin color,” “why did you withhold medical help from Meghan when she was suicidal and asked for help?”
And no one in the RF has those answers or is willing to answer. So, the deference, which they used as a shield, is gone and the US just see the RF as a corrupt institution, and that the “Colonies” were right to dump their tea in Boston Harbor.
@ LaraW, may I also point put that the exposure that TQ and Chaz have a great deal of power when it comes to securing and hiding their wealth was damaging. On top of that, there are laws that require diversity in British businesses but TQ is exempt from hiring POC. Top that off with the fact that TQ, and Chaz of course, have the power to manipulate laws that come before the House of Commons to which it benefits them greatly? Or maybe is was the disastrous charm campaign in which TOBB was seen meeting privately with the party head of keeping Scotland as part of the CW and fighting against the independence that Scotland appears to desperately want? Or maybe it was the disastrous The Lamebridge choo-choo tour during a worldwide pandemic??
So Mr. Jobson, aka Captain of Conspiracy, could any of these actions play a part in the decimation of credibility and reputation, handed to The Monarchy around the world cause such a monstrosity? Or maybe Mr. Jobson, people around the world, don’t take the onslaught of a unrelenting racist smear campaign against a WOC for four years as a sign of bringing forth change and campaigning against racism is all walks of life? Could it possibly be ONE of these actions that have brought on the backlash that the Royal Family deserve?
Accountability is a duty and is expected from powers to be!!
I believe that they think of us as a necessary evil.. they do not like us but they like the money the We (used to) spend.
The US is a huge market for the royals and they’ve always cared about it. Much of it has to do with our so called “special relationship” but it also has to do with America being a huge market, a market that is bigger than the UK’s, whose population is a little bigger than the state of California. You think the People Magazine royals edition benefits the US? Please. It’s all for the royal family. Americans also make up a large percentage of the tourists visiting the UK and the royal palaces. With Brexit, that relationship is even more important.
I won’t buy anything from that salty isle or step foot or even fly through it. I have a cruise booked for next year and one of the flight options was on British Airways connecting through LHR. I chose a different airline.
@fluffy_bunny
I’m UK and can I say we’re not all like the flag waving dinosaurs who all think the RF can do no wrong.
I spend a lot of my day defending Meghan and Harry elsewhere. The RF need radical reform and I’ve been appalled from day one how they have treated M.
We’re not all bad, I promise you!
Well done M&H for leaving the british cesspit media and royals. They deserve to be happy over with you. Our loss is your gain. 😊
I think they always took America’s interest in them for granted. The US is such an enormous market for them; many people here have always revered them, and it probably hasn’t completely sunk in yet that they’ve lost us to the Sussexes.
They do have a small fan base composed of MAGATs, but what they want is the adoration of the “coastal elites,” and those are the people who are most firmly Team Sussex.
@hellie there is another phenomenon going on too. It’s hard to remember now, but as an American I used to have a positive view of England. But because of Harry and Meghan, I’m now exposed to a lot of British Twitter and…holy shit. Instead of Dickens and Masterpiece Theater, now all I see are clips from British television gaslighting people of color, millions of tweets abusing soccer players, packs of lads abusing people in parks in London, interviews with brexiters and the abhorrence of British politicians. I used to think of British aristocracy through the lense of Austen or Evelyn Waugh. Now I think of tacky idiots having brown face parties. I dunno England just seems like a dark and dangerous place to me. Let’s face it, love island and the only way is Essex don’t help. Of course, I see America that way too but, then, I always did. ‘My view of England has radically changed. Obviously my old view was incredibly naive and wrong.
So it is sinking on some level that over here, we believe Harry and Meghan and we like them – we like them for the very reasons the royals and RRs hate them – standing up to a toxic family and toxic press, walking away from privilege and wealth to do their own thing, not taking any of the BS from the RRs et al anymore (ie pushing back on the lies), and earning their own money and being successful at what THEY Want to be successful at, not having their lives determined for them.
also, everytime a british person, reporter or not, says “its not that Meghan was black, its that she was AMERICAN”…..the sussexes get one more fan.
Most Americans, and I will say Canadians as well, actually find it refreshing that Harry got a job and isn’t being supported by taxpayers. Canadians in particular wonder why the rest of them can’t do that as well since we cover a fraction of their expenses.
That’s what the British don’t get (at least the media). It is not viewed as a bad thing to be independent here. The Windsors treated Diana poorly and the consensus on this side of the ocean is that they are an awful family. So treating Meghan like garbage for daring to have a work ethic and being biracial just adds to the impression formed a generation ago.
Exactly! Our best friends – the wife is a royal fan but not super into it, she’s kind of a people mag royal follower, she was shocked when I told her about Penny knatchbull lol – but the husband HATES The royals, he just thinks they’re leeches and doesn’t understand why his wife wants to read about them etc. And he’ll say to me – “I mean I just hate them, I don’t know why you two talk about them” and NOW he’ll add “well except for Harry, he’s cool, he walked away from all that, I respect him.” and I think there are a lot of people here who feel that way (when they think about the royals at all, lol.) So Harry leaving is not the black mark here that the royal family seems to think it should be.
@Becks exactly and I think this confuses and enrages them. They assumed everyone would see Meghan the way they do, and simply cannot comprehend how or why both Meghan and Harry are so much more popular all over the world than they are.
(And it’s not as if we *only* like her because she’s an American— we like her because she’s far more interesting, empathetic, and intelligent than anyone else in that wretched little family, yet was treated abhorrently by them.)
In the US the opinion generally is along the lines of “Guy in mid thirties gets off welfare and moves out of grandma’s back yard. Why is everyone so mad?!”
Add in affection for and fascination with the late Diana, and we’ll be interested. But is that interest good or bad, that is what the Cambies should be asking themselves. The interest in Will and Kate is more of the “bless their hearts” variety.
But, superficially, we’ll always look at tiaras and wedding gowns.
@becks and we like them a lot more than just the rest of the Windsors. The whole edifice of British media aligned against them is so revolting, so stridently stupid, so hysterical, so mean spirited, so determined to misunderstand and freak out at everything. It’s nauseating and so insulting to anyone of reasonable intelligence
Kate was trying to draw Jackie O comparisons with that coat. It doesn’t even fit her and the collar’s wonky.
Your comment made me realize that’s it’s probably been 20+ years since Kate had an original thought.
I was going to comment the same thing, that it looks like she was channeling Jackie Kennedy. So on brand for Kopy Kate.
I don’t know so i will ask, was Kate pregnant during that visit or is it just the way the coat was fitting her?
I thought the exact same thing. Her kingdom for a pillbox hat!
If their crisis managers are worth any penny at all, they wouldn’t recommend any of the Windsors to make a tour of the US without serious efforts to de-MAGA-fy their supporters. Having a picture of the queen appearing on a MAGA bus should have been a wake up call to stop leaning so much on their deranged right-wing folks for support in their war against the Sussexes. Just like the Trumps, in reality they would not want to mingle with the very people they count on to make the most noise for them.
So, how often were the RF jetting to the US before the breakup? I think W&K visited about 7 years ago? And TQ about 15 years ago? Maybe Harry, as a royal, visited more recently for a polo match? Special relationships and trading partnerships aren’t forged with a once-a-decade fly by.
But yeah, the Windsors won’t be able to come to the US without dealing with the H&M “problem” – the media won’t allow it.
@Eurydice, they may not have visited often, but when they did, they were always greeted by enthusiastic crowds of royal watchers, and most people were excited to meet them. Now…it will be a very different experience, and one they won’t enjoy.
When William and Kate came to NYC in 2015, there was an enormous crowd outside the Carlyle Hotel, waiting for hours in the freezing cold for even a glimpse as their entourage arrived. Police had to keep pushing people back, and it stretched for blocks. I don’t think that would ever happen again with the Cambridges. That excitement would be there for the Sussexes for sure (we could see a little of it when Meghan was here for her baby shower), but not the rest of them.
Sure, but the notion that a visit every 7-15 years will cement trade relations is absurd. As is the notion that the BRF can’t visit the US because Harry and Meghan are there. How did Harry manage to visit the UK for Philip’s funeral and the Diana unveiling? He went in, did what he had to do, smiled for the cameras and then left.
There were also photos outside venues they were visiting with crowd fencing up and absolutely no one to be seen. W&K have always been legends in their own minds.
TBH I think this Robert character is overestimating how much America “cares” about Britain and the BRF. Obviously I am a BRF follower for years, but in my professional/social circles, my peers are “meh” about it all, good and bad.
Americans don’t care about the royals but they need us to care and I think that’s the point that he’s trying to make. When things are reported on over here, it pretty much makes a splash everywhere. That’s why the Oprah interview was so damaging to the royal brand, because it was talked about worldwide. Most of the royal tabloid gossip is limited to the UK, unless it’s about H&M, but the interview was probably the first time in a long time that royal gossip was covered as widely as it was. It made the RF look awful and they are still riding that wave of negativity. And unlike the UK, the American press is not going to softball them like they are used to and they will report on the royals accordingly. Hence, Andrew being dragged over here in a way that doesn’t happen in the UK.
I am sure the royal family’s MAGA base will be out to greet them warmly 😌.
If they didn’t want to look bad to Americans maybe the firm shouldn’t leaked to their press minions it wasn’t racism but Meghan being American they hated? Also how can the Sussexes be irrelevant and simultaneously have the potential to negatively impact how Americans view the royals?
Anyway I doubt it’s as serious as Jobson claims. In immediate future if a royal visits the US there might be anticipation about whether they will visit Montecito but that’s it. I doubt the Cornwalls, Wessexes etc were ever going to generate that much interest in a future US trip regardless and I don’t think people will be as excited about seeing William & Kate as they were in their first US tour but that’s because they wasted the initial interest in them.
@ABritGuest, this time, William and Kate can tour the Rust Belt if they want to meet their American fans ( :
They left because of the racist bullying and abuse caused by the combination of the BRF, The Firm, and the tabloid media attacks… when pointing fingers as they always seem to do, they need to stop making it the Sussex’s fault. No sane person would choose to live in that toxic environment.
As for USA/British relationship, they need to look at there actions in sheltering an alleged rapist of a trafficked minor(s) while abusing a beautiful gracious and giving American citizen.. One that has never done a thing to anyone to warrant the viscousness of her treatment.
Just glad their children will be far away from that toxicity.. I have no interest in seeing any other Royals or the clown show that follows them in the USA for anything official.
@Cessily ITA— both the abuse of Meghan and the shielding of Andrew from any consequences would have angered American royal watchers, but the fact that they were both happening *at the same time* is something the BRF will never be able to recover from. It took too hard a hit and gained the (negative) attention of people all over the world, not just in the US.
Many Americans who’d never paid any attention to the royals in the first place started to once Meghan’s abuse kicked in, and the Epstein story was huge here; most Americans probably couldn’t have picked Andrew out of a lineup until the Newsnight fiasco (which happened to ramp up just as people’s tolerance for privileged white men in general failing to face consequences for their sh!tty behavior shriveled up).
They’ve now totally shattered any goodwill that America might have had remaining toward them. They’d already lost a lot of people when Diana died, and they decimated whatever interest was left over the past few years.
I’m tired of the narrative comparing H and M moving to America and leaving royal life with Edward and Wallis. It is a false equivalency. The only common thread I can see is both Wallis and Meghan were divorced and American. Edward didn’t have a coronation, but he was still briefly a reigning monarch for Brittain before he abdicated. Harry was what like 6th in line to the throne? And he didn’t abdicate. He was told they had to do senior royal work with non-working royal level protection for his wife and family, and he chose to save his family’s life when whoever is calling the shots wouldn’t accept Harry’s compromise. Furthermore, they’ve not had a member of colour so there is really nothing to compare this to. Moreover, What’s this “they still think they’re racist” line from Jobson? We don’t think the BRF is racist we know they are!
Wallis has more in common with Camilla. Both were married mistresses to Princes of Wales. ANd both were “favorites” . The only thing is Charles married the suitable girl for heirs and Camilla was involved with Charles the whole time one way or the other. Edward did not marry a suitable girl and his first favorite was Freda Dudley Ward. After the first of the married mistresses, he decided not to marry the suitable girl because he knew he preferred the mistress. Charles got to get the suitable wife and heirs and mistress and the mistress got to marry into the family unlike Wallis. Meghan and Harry were free to date and neither were married and could date freely.
Humm and Prince Andrew’s refusal to cooperate with the FBI has done nothing to damage the special relationship?
Listen, we all love the gossip that comes with the RF but I doubt much that the average American gives 2 flying figs about the RF in general.
The RF should worry more about the British Gen X, Millenials and Gen Z. They may ultimately decide the fate of the RF.
The Royal Family only have themselves to blame for this. All they had to do was accept Meghan and treat her well. They couldn’t do it.
@AmyBee you’re right and it’s still so incredible to me that they were so blind to what an asset she was. But as you said, they just could. not. do. it.
Meghan is smart and beautiful and likable, and was already involved in philanthropic activities years before she even met Harry. She’s well-educated and caring and articulate, and it seems she’s one of those people who can find a way to make conversation with *anyone*. Her ideas for her patronages were creative and raised huge amounts of money for them, her speeches resonated with people, and both of her tours were enormously successful (too successful for that mediocre bunch). Everyone who met her always had nothing but good things to say— except her greedy sh!tbag of a father, but I don’t even count him.
In addition to Harry being genuinely in love with her, she was the perfect person for the “job” (and imo it’s almost impossible to find someone so perfectly suited to such an insane position, and one that brings that kind of brutal, neverending scrutiny). I feel like if someone in lab set out to create a person who could excel in her place, Meghan would be the result.
But her skin was brown, so here we are.
Joe Biden is a straight shooter, they can invite him to visit the Queen all they want, but the U S will continue to trade with the E U first before Britain.
When you reach a certain age you don’t have time for BS.
The UK was told by President Obama that they would put at the back of the queue if they chose Brexit. All the tea, scones, clotted cream and strawberry jam with silver service will not help. All the Queen’s horses and all the Queen’s men cannot put that broken egg back together again.
I mean, there ARE still huge swaths of America which would warmly welcome a pack of wealthy, inbred racists. The Trumps already have Florida covered in that regard, but there’s always, like, Texas or Arkansas.
Come on, don’t even try to pretend that you don’t want to see Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies giving Buttons a tour of her little tar paper shack, while Jed is teaching His Incandescence how to work a backyard still.
Yes, but those aren’t the places the royals want to go. They want to go to NYC, DC, LA, maybe San Francisco or Chicago, and to be welcomed like superstars.
ETA although the Beverly Hillbillies image is pretty funny lol
Yeah, and DC.
Even Trump doesn’t want to be associated with his base. Most of his presidency was him whining about how the “Hollywood elite” don’t like him because he’s always wanted to be in with the cool kids. The same goes for the royals. They may be racist and politically conservative, but they want to be seen as popular, which is why William was crying about celebrities not wanting to work with him.
OK, they can come to NYC. Just give us a few weeks’ notice, as we need to hone our rotten vegetable throwing skills and rest our voices so we can yell “ASSHOLE!” just a couple of decibels louder than we normally do. They can only have as much security as they were willing to provide to Harry and Meghan, and must get around using the subway and guessing what that mystery liquid is on the seat, just like the rest of us.
As a Canadian who could never understand why any American would care about the BRF given the enthusiasm around their expulsion from US politics waaaaaayyyy back in the day, I appreciate you pointing this out. This makes sense.
@Miranda – you have given me my first quivering belly laugh of the week.
You are hilarious – “…and rest our voices so we can yell “ASSHOLE” just a couple of dcibels louder than we normally do.” – Thank You and, please, do keep it up!
@Miranda, you’re killing me!! 😂 I can’t lie, though — I would totally show up to boo William and Kate if they come to NYC again.
In addition to the places already mentioned, the Cambridges would probably also get a warm reception in…many parts of Texas, and possibly Alabama, so all is not lost.
Just tell me where to show up!
If they were worried about the special relationship maybe they should have treated the American Duchess and her American child better? Or even how they threw away all the increased interest in Royal tourism from Americans that happened after Harry and Meghan’s wedding? I think some realities are hitting them. The one supposed positive about monarchy is that they have incentive to think about the long-term when it comes to things like the environment etc instead of being wrapped up in short-term election cycles, but no one was thinking about long term consequences when it came to Meghan.
They are incapable of thinking otherwise. They are used to their subjects accepting all their crap and shitty treatment, so why would they think that Meghan would not also accept it.
They never had to consider how their actions affected others. They had the BM and their courtiers to cover up and hide their shit. That is why the courtiers expected to handle Andrew’s lawsuit too. But his lawyers were wise to realize that that approach won’t fly in the US.
Also, the absolute cheek of Robert Jobson lamenting about the damage to “the special relationship” between the US and the UK, while referring to the Sussexes leaving England as “Megxit.” That’s like wondering, “Why won’t that Bitch marry me?! I’ve treated her lazy ass so well.”
The royal family & the British media are concerned about the image of the Royals in America because Americans visiting England and touring the palaces is a huge chunk of the tourism dollars.
That’s why there are all these, Cambridges & Sussexes are ‘actually cool guys’ articles coming out Stateside. It’s about money.
Remember the Windsors had a lock on the US media market too. They were able to kill a negative TV report about Andrew just by promising to withhold a hypothetical William & Kate interview sometime in the future . All that is now gone.
Harry & Meghan are the big draws with US networks, the racist British reporters are slowly being shown the door and no longer popping up on US screens to continue their Sussex smears.
The Rota & the Royals are right to be concerned, it is just way too late for them to course correct and unring the racist, xenophobic, classist bell they’ve been tolling for years and years.
Some bells can never be unrung.
Exactly. The American market as whole is extremely important for the royal brand and the example you gave about killing the Andrew story is a perfect example of why that is. There is no way the RF could even think of using access to Dull and Duller to shut down anything now because they’ve made themselves so toxic. Besides, when you’ve got the Sussexes stateside in your own backyard, why the hell would you chase after the protector of alleged rapists?
See, this is what I don’t get – tourists would visit the palaces, no matter what. Millions of people visit the Acropolis in Greece and it’s been 2,500 years since the Age of Pericles. To Americans, the BRF are a living museum, nobody expects them to do good works for the US, and to an American audience that loves reality shows the BRF’s scandals actually make them interesting. That’s why everyone watches The Crown, it’s not because they care about the politics of the Suez Canal.
Lola, the UK’s own tourism agency has proven the royals are a net loss when it comes to tourism. Things related to living don’t even crack the top 20 of sites. LegoLand Windsor gets more visitors than Windsor Castle.
France does much better with US tourism funds, and their monarchy has been gone a long time.
They need to worry more about the commonwealth than the US. Even prior to the BRF being racist jerks to Meghan, W and K did a tour of the west coast of Canada and it was not very popular at all. Outside of bringing the kids, who at the time hadn’t been seen much at all, there was little interest in them pretending to care about things. Canadians are not royalists and now with the confirmation of the unmarked indigenous children’s graves, which stems from the racist reservation system set up by the British pre confederation, there is no interest in getting a visit from the colonizer family who profited from this.
And Barbados is removing the Queen as head of state and it won’t be the last country to do so. The outright racism by that family has turned off a lot of countries.
Oh man, I remember that tour – it pissed off many Canadians because it was so expensive for us and they basically went on hikes and to a rodeo. I’m so ready for Canada to say buh bye to these clowns, we don’t need them.
@Nic I’m actually surprised that the effect on the Commonwealth wasn’t given a *lot* more thought and consideration, given we constantly hear how “important” it is to the Queen. The royal family’s treatment of Meghan was a slap in the face to swathes of their “subjects” across the entire Commonwealth, a fact they seemingly didn’t realize or care about.
Lorelei, as concerns Canada it doesn’t surprise that they expect it to be very important as it shares an increasingly slushy ocean at the top of the world with Russia. Canada needs to DisCanex(it?) from the Royal grifters asap. I read that the RF is just a giant money laundering crime family and after watching them… especially lately… it makes sense. It’s becoming more clear to the mainstream. HnM, at the moment, seem to be running legit charities with actual beneficiaries other than themselves. (And if that ever changes regular ol Americans will cut them down because that’s how we roll). Anyway, my main point was oil. Some rich speculative business weannies expect to find oil up there and the RF needs to own Canada lock, stock, and barrel to survive.
Let’s not forget Jamaica. They want reparations from either the RF or the UK in general, I forgot which. I hope they initiate court actions right before the Jubi-fuckin-lee.
I can’t get over how utterly mediocre the royal family and all their ratchets are. If they were a corporation, they would fail utterly. They can’t even wrap their heads around the fact that they are a brand, and that brands need messages. They don’t realize that their “invisible contract” doesn’t play outside the UK, or increasingly, England. No one sees them as magical or mystical anymore. No poor African child is going to run after the royals with his allowance money to contribute to a jewel for Kate on tour, as was done for jewels for Margaret. (Poor child was tackled for his pains, but Margaret got a sapphire broach from Rhodesia, which is likely still part of the royal collection). If they go to America, they will be talked about in light of the Sussexes, even if no one asks them questions openly. If they go to any non-white country, their racism will be a topic of conversation. Even in Canada and Australia and New Zealand, I think people will talk about the Sussexes, especially if Harry and Meghan continue to do substantial work around the world. They have to think about their global brand and what they stand for. They can’t just assume that the love people have for the queen extends to everyone else. That’s exactly what they are counting on, and I think they will be in for a rude awakening.
@Lanne HOW did I never before hear that story about Margaret?! Wow
I love that the Royals are just now realizing that they have become jokes in the US. Like seriously. What did they expect? Even if for some reason, you can’t stand Meghan, their treatment of her outed their xenophobia, anti-American, racist behavior to the world. Now they’re freaking out that they their trade agreements and bottom line will be affected. Too bad, so sad. You reap what you sow you inbred, racist, classist snobs. They are desperate for US money, trade agreements, and connections because of Brexit,, but think nothing of putting down and sneering at Americans as if they are oh so superior. Newsflash, your aristocratic blood means nothing to most Americans when the fact is, they are a bunch of racists, inbred parasites. They are lifetime welfare recipients and they are deluded enough to think that makes them special. Eff that. I hope every country and especially we Americans tell them to go to hell.
I’m cackling that anywhere in the US Charles, KKKhate and Baldimort deign to visit in the US, their treatment of Harry and Meghan will be remembered and front and center in people’s minds. They deserve to be booed everywhere they go.
Funny how they love to say it’s all Harry that’s caused the damage when in fact it was William and Charles. Perhaps if they hadn’t been racist, petty, jealous pricks, then maybe … but no, it’s all Harry’s fault. Charles is an arrogant incompetent and William is that and more.
Harry has always been the cover and whipping boy for William’s crap. . The courtiers can no longer use Harry as a foil for William’s shortcomings and actions. They think it is business as usual but its not. That is why their attempts are falling flat in the rest of the world, though it appears to still work on the Salty Isle. But even there it will eventually fail.
Oh, it’s failing alright, they just won’t admit it. William hasn’t got a single redeeming quality. Nor has Kate. I’m not sure that even Betty or Chuck has one.
Harry critics always go on nostalgically about how “close” he was with his brother and too bad the “closeness” is gone. It’s odd because they are not little boys anymore and they had falling outs according to Lacey’s book.
Yep – hot pink to the 9/11 Memorial and all black to visit a children’s thing (school or hospital? I don’t remember which!). What the what?
Does she ever ask PWT what he thinks about what she intends to wear or does she just do whatever the hell she thinks. Most spouses would run something like by the other spouse especially if they are going to represent the other spouse at a work function that relates to his or her job.
Hot pink at a memorial service, what a moron.
She doesn’t have to ask her husband – people in her position have dressers, someone to advise them of the proper attire for an event, to keep track of what was worn where, etc.
The pink in William’s tie matches the pink of her coat.
@Eurydice My comment was more on their relationship. Maybe that did not come through in my comment.
Even if they have dressers and someone to advice them, I would expect given how they are always said to be such a perfect couple that she would at least ask what he thinks. But then both of them have no social skills so it would have been in vain anyway.
I would wager William could give a rat’s ass what she wears, nor does he think twice about the optics of anything himself. Also, he’s totally the type to mutter “fine” without even looking in her direction if she actually bothered to ask him how she looks.
Don’t forget the frilly white floral dress she wore to a CONCENTRATION CAMP.
William himself is stupid and oblivious enough to admit publicly that he hadn’t bothered to read his briefing papers during one engagement, so idk how helpful he would be even if Kate did ask for his opinion.
That black outfit at the school in Harlem was awful. It was a jacket, not a dress. Her team must have bought two, then cut the second apart and tacked it onto the bottom of the jacket to make it into a mini coatdress. You can see the stitching line in the pics.
I think with the hot pink outfit, she was trying to emulate Diana and her amazing colourful outfits but the timing was so wrong. It really made no sense why she didn’t wear the black outfit to the memorial and the hot pink with the children
Kate wore fushia pink to the 9/11 memorial so she could stand out in the photos. She’s a terrible person.
All those “never put a foot wrong” clearly forgot about this one. It’s pretty basic to wear somber colours to a memorial much less the 9/11 one. She’s an insensitive idiot.
At least she didn’t flash her arse, as was her usual wont.
It was too cold that day to show her bum!
If she wanted to wear pink to signal a gender reveal then she could have chosen a darker or deeper pink, that wasn’t hard. But she chose not to. And then wore black to a children’s center? Somewhere along the line her theme dressing got mixed up in her luggage.
And I’ll bet you that she wore the frilly, floral ensemble to the former concentration camp site – which was bound to be stark, severe, and barren — just so that she could stand out in contrast. That’s a startling level of self-involvement.
Robert and the rest of the British media continue to help the monarchy to show the rest of the world and especially Americans just how racist they are. They won’t stop attacking the black duchess. They went after a new born baby because she was named after their white queen, the fact that the baby is the queen grandchild, meant nothing. They were so blinded by her being tainted with black that they went all in on her. The whole world sees the racism and I hope that no one ever lets them forget that they see it
Is she color blind? Wtf
Harry and Meghan didn’t do anything to damage the monarchy. Americans had an inkling of the character of those people, especially when they silence an entire network on the Andrew/Epstein story years ago. All Harry and Meghan did was pull back the curtain. As for not being able to visit America, we’ll, all Meghan did was “go back to America” like she had been told repeatedly by British reporters. They just didn’t expect Harry to leave with her. Ha!
When I think of Jacqueline Kennedy and the color pink I think of November 22, 1963. Keen is a moron.
The special relationship is about the two governments and the two populaces…never about the Royal Family (except when Diana danced with Travolta.)
Thank you Shawna!
No Jobson, you snotty pathetic a$$ kisser, it’s your continued and deliberate ignoring of Prince Andrew’s relationship with a certain dead sexual predator and their abuse of trafficked teenagers that has riled British/American relations. Oh, and while I’m at it, how about Andrew’s very good friend Ghislaine Maxwell, who remains in prison pending trial at which Andrew’s already tarnished reputation will no doubt be further muddied as more details are revealed about his crimes.
It’s gonna get seedier, no doubt. Her Madge will probably respond by taking Andrew out for ice cream and giving him a few more titles and military honors he never earned. At least Harry earned the ones she stripped him of.
I believe Harry’s honorary ones were taken not the ones he earned. She could not touch them.
BP used to let it be known to the major network news that if they reported negative news about the royals they would not appear on their morning shows the next time they came to the US. The threat worked pretty well for a long time but no one tunes in to see Will or Kate anymore. Harry and Meghan are the prize now. Boo hoo.
When have Will and Kate EVER appeared in person on American TV? What kind of a lame threat is that? LMAO
Just finished Unforgotten (which repeatedly ripped my heart out and stomped on it). There are several plot lines focused on how deeply the pain of racism runs through generations of Brits from African and Central Asian ancestry. I’m sure none of this is new information for Brits but as an American it feels very recent that UK portrayal of these issues/this pain has gone mainstream.
I doubt seriously any member of the Royal Family would be “booed” if they came to the United States (except Andrew).
What WILL happen is Charles, William & Kate will go on tour to the US and nobody will give not one care. There will be no cheering crowds, there will no celebrities excited to meet them, beyond visiting the American president there will be no interest in them, and that would actually be WORSE than them getting booed.
Good point!
This. We don’t care enough to boo. Booing would imply that they actually matter enough for us to be disappointed in them. The BRF mistake Diana’s American popularity in her lifetime as having to do with them. Haters keep saying Harry and Meghan are winning in America because he’s the queens grandson. Please, nobody cares about that woman over here. The interest in the US comes from the fact that he’s Diana’s kid, his war veteran status, and the story of him and Meghan leaving that awful institution.
@Emmitt, you just changed my mind with this comment. Upthread, I mentioned them being booed, but you’re right — this would be so much more satisfying! Empty sidewalks as far as the eye can see in every shot of the Cambridges.
A tumbleweed blowing down Fifth Avenue.
Are you kidding, Emmitt? In certain less-subtle areas they would definitely be booed. I’ll even volunteer for booing duty, if the US is short on booers! Then, of course, the British media can write it up as so, “William and Kate were so well received. The crowd yelled ‘Boo-urns’!”
This is all about Andrew. Members of the RF aren’t going to come here because they’d get asked lots of awkward questions about when Andrew’s going to talk to the FBI and what do they think about Virginia Giuffre’s lawsuit. Much better in their opinion to make it sound like it’s because of how awful the Sussexes are.
No one in that family seems to realize that making the Sussexes out to be the bad guys is what’s tanking their standing world wide.
@ShadeAu this just proves how demented and dysfunctional the British media is with regard to the RF. That they only need to worry about so much as being asked a question about Andrew unless they’re an ocean away.
Their “journalists” are completely neutered; they write either fluff pieces about the Cambridges or abusive pieces about anyone who Meghan has ever so much as glanced at, but fail to ask real, important questions about a serious criminal case involving the Queen’s son.
They’re too scared of…I don’t even know what, but something is keeping them from reporting on Andrew or even on something like William’s infidelity even though he is going to be not only their Head of State but also the Head of their Church someday. It’s grossly irresponsible and a total dereliction of duty by anyone over there who calls themselves “journalists.” I have no idea how their relationship with the press became so warped, but the BRF has them by the balls, somehow.
And this is all for what? Access to photos of the Cambridge kids? It’s deranged.
I agree because on average Americans could care less about the Royals and that actually includes H&M. This is a coverup for Andrew.
Or be asked if they have plans to meet with the Sussexes. It was bad enough when NBC chief foreign correspondent Andrea Mitchell innocently asked Keen about her newly born niece.
Not just the US. Even my sister in Canada thinks she might protest if any royals come into town.
The monarchy, the courtiers and the BM have revealed the racism that engulfs the island. The nonstop news about Meghan and Harry a couple who have left to fulfill their family needs and aspirations are the focal point of their media. The damage was done beginning when Charlie Tampax was cheating on Diana. It was hidden because of the invisible contract that they have with the media for decades even through most of Baldzilla and Doomumblealot marriage. The nationalism, racism, xenophobia, sexism that came from that institution and island when Meghan arrived has turned the world not off of the royals but has many questioning why they are remaining. Harry and Meghan have not destroyed the image of the monarchy. They did it themselves with their arrogance, jealousy, egotistical racist behavior
I remember being pissed that they came to New York. The traffic was horrendous and iv felt (and feel) they served no purpose. Then when I saw what the clown wore…. man listen.
Is this the same trip that she went to the school in Harlem (why?) she and learned Black Americans don’t GAF about her royal status and expect her to earn her keep? Yeah, I’m not too concerned about them causing anymore traffic here.
@Steph didn’t Diana visit Harlem when she was in NY? There’s our answer.
For all the talk from the RRs about her visiting Harlem? That school was like two blocks into Harlem.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kate thought wearing hot pink was being queenly since according to an older Town and Country article HM always wears bright colors to stand out so people can see her. It never dawned on her that HM also wears somber colors at the appropriate time. She’s that tone deaf that it could be true. Whatever.
Prince Andrew has done far more damage to the British royal family international brand. His continued avoidance with answering questions about his Epstein ties. And this new lawsuit by Virginia Giuffre is going to be covered intently by American media. That Robert Jobson and other British reporters still fail to acknowledge the greatest harm is being done by Prince Andrew is shocking. Hiding behind the Queen can only go so far for Andrew, and using Meghan as a continued diversion is no longer working.
As for Prince Harry’s upcoming memoir, no one knows what will be mentioned. For Jobson, automatically assuming it will be a negative blot on the queen’s jubilee is absurd. He’s only had kind words for his great-grandmother. And has even named his only daughter after her. Now, the rest of the royal family members and possibly their aides might get a negative word or two in his memoir.
Yeah, the British royal family misjudge a lot of things, and are clueless about pretty much everything else besides their unwavering dedication to their own smug self-importance, but they really are getting it just so wrong on the international stage.
Brits might be nostalgically enamored with their precious queen, but her refusal to deal with the racial reckoning literally in her own house and her tone deaf support of her rapist son are NOT playing well anywhere else. Especially here.
England has a long history of delightfully tut-tutting how racist the US is, and frankly, we’re sick of the blatant hypocrisy. The royals had the chance of the queen’s lifetime in Meghan Markle, to drag their bigoted and classist system into the 21st century, and they more than blew it
UK is still an important NATO ally for the US, so relationship between the two governments is really important and not affected by foibles of the royal family. US and Canadian tourism is important to the UK though, and a well-liked or interesting royal family is one of those intangibles that can’t really be measured in terms of effect. All state visits involve the Sovereign so it’s hard to say that the current negative revelations of the royal family will affect actual politics. I can’t see any royal visits to the US any time soon, but it would be an over reach to say the political realtionship of the two countries is affected by royal scandal.
Agree. The clown show surrounding the royals won’t have any big picture effect on US/UK relationships. Brexit and maybe the current situation in Afghanistan may affect it more. As for the trade deals, wasn’t Prince Andrew sent as a trade envoy and he bungled that and decided to pal around in NYC and Florida with pedophile sex trafficker Epstein instead. There are tons of very traditional conservatives in this country who would love to hang out with the Cambridge’s and Chuck, and if they came for a state visit, it would be fine, mostly performative. They know though the UK press would have to restrain themselves and not harass the Sussexes while the other royals were here. Jobson sounds like a guilty,bitter man who is pissed that the whistleblowers are moving on.
GOOD. We don’t want their ratchet azzez here anyway.
Right! The Americans are quietly pleased the England Windsor’s may not come to America ever again.
“Quietly pleased.” Hah, well done!
But weren’t they just saying that the Bidens obviously like the Cambridges better than the Sussexes for….reasons? I can’t keep up. I need a flowsheet of all their unsourced “sources” they rely on.
And they’re afraid the crowd will ask where Andrew is, why won’t Andrew talk to the FBI like he said he would, why are they sheltering an accused rapist, etc. At least that’s what I’d be yelling out if I had to stand outside and wait for them.
Okay. What can we do to make it impossible for them to come here?
First of all, when did Oprah Winfrey change her first name to “Bombshell?”
Second, was THAT the way Kate dressed to visit the 9/11 memorial? What is it with Kate’s incessant need to make every funereal (Phillips’s), vigil, and memorial about herself? Oh well, I guess we should be thankful her photographer Mr. Jackson wasn’t there. Otherwise, who knows what else Kate would have done.
Oh, did the BRF finally realize that their RF BS doesn’t work with American led criminal investigations?? I’m guessing ANY of them could be subpoenaed as a witness for the CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION of a certain Windsor. LOL Nice of them to give themselves a convenient “out” by ridiculously blaming H & M.
We all need Team Sussexit shirts!
When was the last time Jobson was on ABC News? He was getting big US gigs but is now forced to slum it on GBNews with their dying ratings. Poordat. He has probably finally realized through his and his colleagues’ inability to get good US spots as of late that Americans have no interest in watching these fools trash one of our own on our tvs. It is hilarious to see him complain about this when he was literally the one who started the smear campaign against our American Duchess when she was pregnant with Archie.
And as many have pointed out, when they were criticized for their smear campaign the common defense from royalists, the rota, and their sources was “it’s not about race she’s just TOO AMERICAN” but they are somehow surprised that we are not fans of these people. It seems that many royalists and even members of the Firm quite delusionally thought that Americans cared about their Queen so much that we would reject one of our own and her husband for being at odds with their royal family. A good example of this was the meltdowns after Harry got a standing ovation at VAX live. These people were genuinely upset and offended that residents of Harry’s new home state would welcome him and not boo him off the stage out of deference to their Queen. Considering the fact that most these people are still in shock about not getting preferential treatment from the EU post-Brexit i shouldn’t be too surprised but it’s still maddening.
The hounding of Meghan by the royals, palace, courtiers, press, media, royal experts and other personalities will go down as a black spot in history.
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Racism is a powerful drug. It blinded them to the fact that having an American-born Duchess would have been an asset to their efforts to cozy up to America. I’m sure Dr. Jill and Meghan would already have some initiative in the books by now. Harry leaving didn’t damage the monarchy – his departure damaged the monarchy’s chances at staying relevant. That’s on them, not him.
EXACTLY!
Oh poor Windsors