John Mayer challenged one of the many Taylor Swift fans who have been sending him death threats and nasty messages. [JustJared]
Chrissy Teigen & her rich friends cosplayed poor people for an “elaborate” Squid Game-themed party. Super-relatable. [Dlisted]
Kristen Stewart wore a lacy little black dress this weekend. [GFY]
Steve Bannon: indicted for contempt of Congress. [Buzzfeed]
Elle Fanning wore Versace & a severe hairstyle. [RCFA]
Hawkeye has a branding problem & a likeability problem. [LaineyGossip]
Is marijuana about to be decriminalized at a federal level? [Towleroad]
Mahershala Ali is such a sharp-dressed man. [Tom & Lorenzo]
Recap of this week’s Succession (spoilers). [Pajiba]
John Goodman gave an update on Katey Sagal. [Seriously OMG]
The United Nations chimes in on America’s terrible abortion laws. [Jezebel]
John had to find a way into Taylor’s Red weekend. He’s probably jealous that folks are dumping on Jake and not him. Fool.
Why doesn’t he just say something horribly racist to draw negative attention if that’s what he’s craving? I’m happy to throw him some hate.
He’s getting death threats. Yes, he’s John Mayer and I’m not a fan but Taylor’s band of Karen fans need to stop doing this and thinking they’re badasses or speaking up against abuse. They’re bullies looking for an acceptable target.
The death threats are 100% not okay and I don’t think John’s response was great. He called her out and then said it’s 100% fine? Alright then, as long as this tik toker was doing it as a dare it’s okay? If you’re going to respond, take the right stance. Say, ok you didn’t mean it literally and good thing I’m in a good place right now, but if I was in any way fragile or even if I’m just going about my day, wishing someone death is evil and wrong and will invariably affect them.
He told her it was ok because she was scared of being sued. The woman knows sending death threats is wrong. John doesn’t have to teach her empathy or responsibility towards others.
Also anything he says could end up in the press so lecturing the woman would probably mean she would react defensively.
that is not what “Karen” means. it’s not mere entitlement. it’s racist entitlement.
I thought that was Becky. Karen is general, Can I speak to the manager, energy.
NGL, I wait with baited breath for whichever of Taylor Swift’s exes finally sits down in an interview/Twitter spat and says “let me tell you about your girl….” She’s been damn lucky so far, but it won’t last.
🙄 If there was something to say, they have already said it.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Taylor is super talented. I just want to know, has Taylor ever done the dumping instead of always being dumped? Was she wronged by every damn guy she dated? Was she the innocent, perfect angel in every relationship? I want her to release a song where she blames herself for one bad relationship (maybe she already has I don’t know?). She’s just like a KarJenner, never the bad guy.
She has. She’s got several songs where she admits to being the one breaking up with the guy.
I have no sympathy for John Mayer. He was even older than her than Jake, and if he was anything to her like he was to Jessica Simpson, he’s a terrible boyfriend.
Abby. I’m also curious about this. Not to say her high profile John and Jake ex’s aren’t awful, but we’re they all bad? Did she dump the less high profiles and stay with the news worthy relationships?
We’re the songs she wrote about doing the breaking up vague or direct about a known relationship?
I say this as a huge Taylor fan — NDAs. She hasn’t actually dated everyone she’s taken photos with, and there are a variety of reasons why they won’t talk about it.
@wiglet watcherI dont know if all of this is true, but here’s an interesting article published/updated today with a list of exes and the songs that are supposedly about them.
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/11/16/taylor-swift-songs-about-exes/
There’s no mention of her current boyfriend, Joe Alwyn–they’ve been together for several years and as far as I know they’re still together.
She broke up with Tom Hiddleston (Getaway Car) and Taylor Lautner (Back to December).
@ Wiglet Watcher, she dumped Tom Hiddleston, Taylor Lautner, Calvin Harris, and there are songs about all of them. She actually paints herself in not the most flattering light.
They just don’t get as much press, because songs that tend to get the most press are ones that hit people the most in the heartstrings, and people tend to turn to music most for heartbreak. Also there is a popular narrative that the media has found sells “wicked Tay can’t keep a man,” so that is what is publicized the most.
There are also exes that don’t seem to be mentioned at all. Seems like only 3 or so get mentioned in a bad light, and hell, if they were abusive or toxic it is her right to talk about it and it does help people. I was in a severely abusive relationship (my first relationship ever), with someone ten years older than me who turned out to be a serial predator and was told I couldn’t tell anyone, and lying on the floor in NYC listening to “Dear John” was one of the few things that made me feel not alone. People may not like it, but publicizing what bad behavior looks like can actually be really valuable.
based on songs, she most probably dumped taylor lautner and tom H
but I think both are too classy and private person to spill some teas
Taylor and Tom and probably Calvin.
Then there are those who were probably mutual like Harry styles. I think they just briefly had fun but it wasn’t a love match for either of them.
@Abby the article was just songs about her exes. Gorgeous is about Joe Allwyn, I think she publicly said that. Great article though!
To all the responses… sorry for my late response!
I had the understanding that Calvin also claimed he ended it with her and it wasn’t really exclusive, but she needed it that way for her image. His explanation seemed legit.
And her a hiddles was promotional, no? That did not seem real and was brief between both promoting quite a bit.
Lautner was the IT guy for a time and their relationship didn’t seem more than spotlight set up by their management.
To clarify I guess I meant actual relationships and not dating period that press and their mutual PR blow up into clickbait. Harry styles seemed low key.
I feel like Succession has written itself into a corner, genre wise. The mounting drama leaves almost no room for comedy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m on the edge of my seat, but I miss the one liners. I’m also having to read a lot of analysis to understand what’s happening. What exactly are Sandy and Stewy doing? They’re buying the majority shares at above market price (e.g. “bear hug”), but then why don’t they get to decide how many seats they have on the board? How can the Roys still control the board if Sandy & Stewy have controlling interest? and WTF with the private jets? These people are billionaires. What difference does it make if they don’t get to use the company jets for personal travel? Can’t they afford their own? Admittedly I have no background in business/finance at all, but I read a lot, and I’ve watched the show very closely, and I’m confused. Is that just me?
Aren’t the super rich known for not wanting to pay, especially for such a big ticket item like private jets. I’m with you on not understanding the whole Sandy/Stewy scenario.
My understanding about the private jets was that Sandy hates, hates, hates Logan, and he knew taking about corporate private jets would humiliate him. I thought it was just to be vindictive.
I’m a Taylor fan but wtf is up with these fans? Taylor is almost 32, aren’t her fans around that age or at least late/mid 20s? Why do these grown ass women think this is ok? Someone could screenshot it and send it to their employers or John could re share it and everyone could see what these women are doing. I don’t understand how grown ups are so stupid with social media. When Taylor is pushing 40 is this still going to be a thing? She needs to speak up to these toxic fans and tell them to stop.
She has low-key weaponized her fans for years. Her narrative is being wronged by bad people (often men) so of course her fans will go on the attack. I think she is super talented and my daughter loves her, but her whole routine is exhausting.
I’m not particularly a fan of hers or anyone she’s dated so I’m not that invested, but she seems to have this need for revenge on anyone who has ever slighted her. I know being dumped sucks and sure we have all wanted to seek our revenge on an ex but she could potential harm other people’s reputations. Not to mention cause unnecessary media drama, which she doesn’t mind at all because it’s all about her being a victim whilst the other person is bad. I really REALLY don’t give af about John mayor or Jake G, but death threats are too far.
She even went after Katy Perry probably hoping to ruin her career, so it’s not just men she goes for.
Taylor wouldn’t do this if she didn’t always have the stronger fanbase, but she seems to get a kick out of telling her fans who they should hate on. Even though she has gone for Kanye, I think she’s always held back a little when going for the Kardashian’s themselves because she knows their fanbase collectively is probably too strong.
Sorry swifties don’t hate me.
I think she’s a mediocre (at best) singer / songwriter who benefited from daddy’s wealth and white girl privilege — that said, she WROTE SONGS. That’s literally it. She didn’t name anyone, she didn’t “low-key weaponize” her fans, she didn’t say to hate anyone, she didn’t tell anyone to issue a death threat. She wrote some anonymous bland boring songs (even her top fans have got to admit she has no range). An artist is not responsible for all her fans’ worst and stupidest choices / crimes.
@Emma, I disagree; she definitely weaponizes her fans. Taylor has been doing this for a decade now. The first big incident/red flag was when her fans attacked Michael J. Fox for making a joke. She could’ve just stayed silent like most big artists do when their fanbases get obnoxious but she thanked them for their support on Twitter after they attacked him. That alone gave them the green light to keep acting the way they do. This isn’t like the Beyhive for instance, where Beyonce and her team have tried to tell her fanbase to calm down (and got shut down/ignored by said fanbase in response). Taylor knows exactly how her fans act and react and she’s egged them on numerous times throughout the past decade.
@Lexilla- exactly. everything about taylor’s image and relationship with her fans is planned down to the most minute detail.
Agree
I’ll be honest I like most of the famous pop stars of today in some form, or at least a few of their songs, but I HATE their fanbases. I know that most are reasonable people, and its only the super online ones, and only a select few of those that act like this, but geez. Too many people are living vicariously through this woman, for all of their bad relationships and are acting like the other side of this doesn’t have real human beings attached.
@DEE I agree with you. It’s one thing to be a fan, and quite another to be a fanatic. One can be an enthusiast without becoming an extremist. Anything taken to the nth degree is unhealthy, and ultimately, destructive. Reason sometimes exits stage left when the anonymity of the person’s handle is on stage.
It’s the same with sports fans. I don’t get it.
Lunasf17 she has a pretty rabid younger fanbase as well. I work with teens and younger and they all love Taylor.
I’d really love to know the demographics of her online fans. Like does she pick up new teenagers every year? Are these actual 20 something women?
I just read her Mars is in Scorpio. So… yeah. She’s vengeful.
Death threats are going too far. And she thought it would be ok because he wouldn’t see it? I hope that fan really does feel bad and won’t write hateful messages again. But it’s not likely.
Not a John Mayer fan but I thought all things considered he handled this well.
Lol, that would be a first for him.
Yea, he’s a d-bag, but her fans are crazy, and Taylor weaponizes victimhood.
Lol, all superfans are crazy. The word fan comes from “fanatic.” I can love someone’s art/talent/skill without being emotionally attached to them, but that’s apparently a problem for many people.
And her side of the story is very suspect. I say that because every 3 month relationship she’s written about in such dramatics, like they’ve all left these deep scars. You know who is left with deep scares? Her exes for dating a crazy.
Huh. John Mayer actually reacted to something in a completely reasonable way. I guess there’s a first time for everything?
He was really very nice to that person, honestly. And it’s an excellent point that people seem to forget – when you post awful things like that, there is a real person on the other end.
Hosting a Squid Game-themed party for her wealthy and famous friends is pretty on-brand for Chrissy Teigen (and most celebs tbh) *sigh* I guess they didn’t really understand the theme of the show…
I must not understand the theme of the show either because I can’t relate to even watching it. at least game of thrones had amazing costumes and hair design. (didn’t really watch that either but I can see the visual appeal.)
If these fans really care about issues of abuse, go help in their community. Stop messaging John Mayor.
Any fan being performatively caring on the internet but not actually doing anything to help on the issue besides attacking people is suspect to me. You’re looking for a way to belong and someone to bully. That’s it. You’re not being a supportive, understanding person.
These fandoms used to be a space for children and tweens to express themselves. What is with adults acting out like this on social media?
I normally would have nothing nice to say about John Mayer (the kindest thing I typically say is that watching his facial contortions as he plays/sings us far more entertaining than anything he actually plays/sings), but I thought he handled that awful DMer well.
Taylor knows her fan base is rabid, yet she has no issues virtually siccing them on people. Has she ever actually spoken up and asked them to not behave that way?
Don’t know much about this. Heard Mayer is a piece of work though. Lived in Nashville as a little girl and know a few of the same people, musicians, couple family friends etc. (I don’t know her personally 🙂 But word is, and I agree, that her best slamming someone song was her You need To Calm Down. Those close to her say it was about Trump. And she did come through and slam him publicly to, as well as other things. Don’t know, but I believe it, absolutely. Haha, take a listen to that again. Not bad. So she is okay by me.
Mayer’s a douche, but he doesn’t deserve death threats. He actually handled that really well: calmly but firmly pointing out that he is a person on the other side of that screen. Something a lot of people seem to forget.
There isn’t a superfandom in existence that doesn’t include this kind of nonsense. Ask the Beyhive, ask the Lovatics, ask the Selenators, etc., etc., etc.
For that matter, ask Cubs fans, ask Yankees fans, ask Steelers fans. Ugh.
Honestly, if you’re that wrapped up in someone else’s career, it’s weird–even without death threats. Society is FUBAR these days. I blame the previous administration for making aggressive ignorance a fad. Ugh.
I find her to be narcissistic. She gets so offended when a guy she’s dating doesn’t find her the bees knees and breaks up with her. And then has to write songs to publicly shame them, knowing her fans will attack them, and sites like this will have posts accusing these guys of being awful. And then she remains silent and let’s the death threats fly.