Serena Williams and Prince Harry did their BetterUp “Inner Work” conversation yesterday via video-conference. I assume Harry was in Montecito and I assume Serena was in Florida. Seeing Serena talk these days is pretty rare – while she’s active on social media, she hasn’t been at a tennis tournament since Wimbledon last year. She’s been especially quiet on the tennis/injury front. She folded that into the conversation, basically saying that she’s been doing that “inner work” during her time away from the tour, that she’s taking time for herself. Harry spoke about being burned out and needing to take time for himself, to calm his mind and just disconnect.
Prince Harry, Serena Williams and BetterUp CEO Alexi Robichaux took part in the inaugural Inner Work conference. The three discussed the importance of doing work on yourself to prevent burnout and improve your mental health. Prince Harry urged why people should make time for themself, using himself as an example of reaching burnout. Harry said he was “burning the candle at both ends” and was forced to look inward. Williams, as a top-performing athlete, was “pulled in so many different directions.”
“I’m super strategic– I take ‘me time,’” she explained. “What really is important is focusing on me and me time. Boundaries are so important to have. If you don’t have boundaries you aren’t going to reach what you can do… Don’t send emails at 11 p.m. You will burn out.”
Harry agreed with Williams on setting boundaries and knowing what you can take on, “It starts at home, it starts internal.” He also shared how his day goes and how he fits time in for self-reflection. When “one of the kids have gone to school, one is having a nap,” Prince Harry said he will then carve out 30-45 minutes to “take the dog for a walk” or meditate.
Elsewhere in the conversation, Harry and Williams spoke about maintaining good mental health even when times get hard, such as losses on the tennis court. “When it comes to losing, I hate that word, I want to coin it a growing experience,” Williams said. “As much as I hate it, I have learned so much. Losses are important, learn from them,” she added.
Realizing they were rambling, Williams and Harry both apologized, “Sorry we can talk for hours.”
“Harry is always solving all my problems,” Williams said of Harry’s improvement through the BetterUp. “You are just always figuring it out for me.”
Harry gave credit to Williams for doing the work herself but joked that he should be on BetterUp’s coaching board.
“I don’t have it sorted, Serena doesn’t have it sorted, none of us do. Life is about discovery,” Harry concluded, noting that one of the best things he has learned to do is “turn a negative into a positive.” It “feels like a superpower. It’s work, but out of all the work we do… it is the most fulfilling. Apart from being a dad!”
It sounds like a nice conversation, and Serena sounds like she was hyping Harry a bit, which is also pretty nice. “When it comes to losing, I hate that word, I want to coin it a growing experience” – girl, you’ve had too many growing experiences lately, figure out a way to win those damn matches!! As for what Harry said about being burned out and finding time to meditate or walk the dog every day… the usual suspects have a problem with what he said, and they’re trying to make him sound like an elitist for suggesting that adults should try to spend 30 minutes of every day on their own mental health? It’s pretty basic stuff, it’s not elitist at all.
Something slightly superficial: when I first looked at the clip of Harry speaking, I thought he had gotten a too-short haircut. But no. He’s lost a lot of hair in recent months!! *ginger sob*
During @BetterUp's #InnerWorkDay event, CEO @Arobichaux asked Prince Harry and @serenawilliams what advice they would share related to practicing mental fitness.
"It's work, but out of all the work we do… it is the most fulfilling," Harry said. "Apart from being a dad!" pic.twitter.com/xnKLXg7Hbl
— Omid Scobie (@scobie) February 3, 2022
Prince Harry gets it: doing Inner Work® can be tough, but it’s a solid foundation to build on. And once you get all of that sorted out, everything else seems to fall into place. ☁️ pic.twitter.com/C1Wn4Tj3Be
— BetterUp (@BetterUp) February 3, 2022
A much-needed reminder about the importance of boundaries from @serenawilliams during her Inner Work® Day session. 🔥 pic.twitter.com/wSLS93CCOI
— BetterUp (@BetterUp) February 3, 2022
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This was a great discussion and I’m glad Harry looks so at peace. Of course, the typical planned outrage is predictable across the pond at this point but I’m glad it doesn’t enter their world like it used to. It’s crazy to me how people who clearly miss the Sussexes keep attacking them but expecting a different result. It’s not sticking anymore and it’s getting boring. The RF and BM are some of the most backwards people I’ve ever seen.
The thing is these discussions are happening on a private platform. That you have to register through your own work email. So this content is easily avoidable if you don’t want to see it. But I guess outrage sells and the British Mob is fickle as hell..
Agreed. The problem is that they’re only making better up and Harry more money. Harry and Meghan are using the media as clickbait at this point and they’re too stupid to realize it. The BM are not in a position to not report on them because they need them. Harry and Meghan don’t the BM. It’s actually a reversal of situations. That’s why their mad. Mad because they can’t control them, mad because they have no access and the American media are benefiting. The RF and BM are making the Sussexes and everything they touch into billionaires, that will in turn give them deeper pockets to keep suing the tabloids if they cross the line. It’s irony at it’s best.
It is nice to see Harry so at peace and comfortable talking about the need to continue working on your inner self. Serena brought up excellent points regarding boundaries, as we should all set them for ourselves.
I am glad that they did this as it’s important to look at issues that a man and a woman in high profile positions present their strides in better mental health.
Unable and unwilling to adapt to changes and on top of that treat adaptability as evil and wrong.
If they accept that things have not only changed but for the better, the whole institution and industry surrounding it crumbles.
They are terrified to their soul that Harry leaving and thriving will cause a domino effect. If they can’t ruin Harry’s life, their next goal it to frighten the next generation into never trying to leave either. God forbid Charlotte and Louis get any ideas about having a life outside The Firm.
Absolutely right! H&M allegations against the firm weren’t the most damaging because people have short memories. But, the fact that they continue to thrive outside the firm and are global philanthropists (an image co-opted by the BRF) means people will start wondering why the BRF even exists if they can do the same work but without taxpayer funding.
It’s such a relief whenever I hear someone say they don’t have it figured out. It’s part of being human but often makes you feel like a failure. If everyone was honest about their own struggles and questions about life, it would take weight off so many people. I guess it generates huge $ in self help and beauty industries etc to keep us all feeling alone in our inadequacies…
Please, I beg of you…..don’t tell Serena to “shut up and dribble”
seconded! that was ice cold. you don’t live inside her body.
Thirded. That was rude.
And fourth-ed. Serena’s one of the greatest tennis players of all time. She could never win another thing ever, and she will still be a legend.
Agree. Serena hasbeen playing quality tennis for more than 20 years now and still playing at a high-level after most of her contemporaries retired. So you can miss me with “win more matches.”
Yep. I read that and cringed. What an awful thing to say about someone who is struggling against a feeling of ‘being a loser’ — that’s the whole reason she has to reframe, so she can stay sane and keep a modicum of confidence.
Serena has had serious, life threatening health issues. Also she’s made history, so she’s won a ton, let her chill.
Thank you for saying that. I cringed when I read it.
Serena does not need to “figure out a way to win those damn matches!!” Ever! She’s the GOAT and Margaret Court is not on her level as MC wins did not all occur during Open Era. Consider that tennis.com (2018) ranked 50 greatest women players in Open Era as 1) Serena, 2) Steffi Graf, 3) Martina Navratilova, 4) Court.
Professional rankings also don’t take into account the bile that’s come out of Margaret’s mouth about LGBT players being equivalent to Hitler in leading youth astray; and claiming the “blood of Jesus” would protect parishioners from deadly coronavirus (but provided sanitizer to hedge their bets) while accepting > $500K government covid payments to church which suffered < 1% revenue drop. Court and her Village Life Centre say they qualified for gov$ based on one-month revenue drop, and they used gov$ to aid parishioners while amping up food distribution to needy which is non-discriminatory. However, per a Guardian article, the gov$ basically dropped to bottom line.
Meanwhile, Serena is continuing to fund schools in Jamaica and across Africa, and is investing in businesses that increase diversity and provide opportunities to underserved people. Through her own personal struggles she has highlighted the unequal treatment POC receive in medical settings. Plus she overcame the mental anguish and post-trauma stress from the godawful Indian Wells 2001 crowd to school the world on forgiveness by returning to Indians Wells in 2015.
Agree 🙁 she should play even against odds, if that is her wish
“ Something slightly superficial: when I first looked at the clip of Harry speaking, I thought he had gotten a too-short haircut. But no. He’s lost a lot of hair in recent months!! *ginger sob*”
It’s just a new haircut, Kaiser. Hair doesn’t fall out perfectly even.
I think it’s the same case as the first visit to NYC. Harry is a very light skinned man. In bright light/ sunlight, his hair looks almost transparent then in darker light, it looks fuller. I’m a woman but I cut off all my hair years ago and if he decides to, I think he’ll look good.
But anyway, Harry looks good. Healthy. Buff. Happy.
Exactly. I don’t think it’s any thinner, it’s the same as it has been for a while.
Buff and healthy was the first thing I noticed, Harry is looking a lot more California these days and it suits him
My first impression of his photo was holy cow he has been working out and his facial hair is totally groomed. He is looking fantastic.
IMO I think Prince Harry is very handsome and neat. He looks like he smells nice. Also he talks smart and insightful.
I thought it was always this thin too. The shorter haircut really shows it.
Yeah, Harry just got a trim. He looks damn good too. He looks happy, healthy and well rested.
I agree with all of this, but I wish he would shave it bald. (Or fill it back up. LA is so close! There are a million places that do it!)
I kind of wish Harry would get really good hair plugs too, just because it would drive Egg to incandescence.
He looks great either way but I’m petty.
I get up at 4am so that I’ll have an hour to myself. I workout, meditate, read or maybe scroll the internet, basically I do what I feel would be best for me on that particular day. Having that time has been so helpful for my physical and mental health.
It’s so important to have that little “me” time and just relax. I don’t understand how we got to a society where working yourself into an early grave (so to speak) is a positive thing.
blame capitalism.
my advice: schedule me time. put it in your calendar!
That’s wonderful that you are able to do that. I am certain that it creates a lovely balance for you!!
Exactly, it’s not elitist at all. If you have time to watch tv in the evening and most people do you have time to meditate, read a book, go for a short walk etc…
@JuliaP, exactly! If we look at how much time we spend scrolling on our phones, we can see that we actually do have at least 10-15 minutes a day to go for a walk, do a short workout or a 10 minute meditation. We just have to decide if we are better served by more scrolling or doing something else, something better for our physical and mental health. It’s really about what is a priority for each of us.
What is elitist is telling other people what their “me” time should look like. Some people relax by watching TV. This is their “me” time. Saying “if you have time to watch TV, you have time to meditate” is a bit judgy, don’t you think?
@Ines, nope not judgy. If watching tv is relaxing for you by all means continue watching but and this is a big But , would your body, mind or spirit be better served by some movement? or perhaps by some inner reflection? Is watching tv a way to avoid something that really needs your attention? I’m saying this because yeah, sometimes tv is a distraction from something that’s bothering me or something I know would be better for me but digging in my heels because I know that what I really need might create some discomfort, internally or externally.
@Harla – lol, you start out fine by allowing people to watch tv if they want to, and then you add armchair psychology and a bunch of, frankly, passive-aggressive questions – wouldn’t you be “better” served by doing something different, like inner reflection, like doing all the stuff you’ve been avoiding, or by being just like me?
What Eurydice said. The Paltrow-like smugness and humblebragging are a definite turn-off.
I get up an hour before anyone too, @Harla. I need that hour to myself in the mornings, plus I’ve never been a big talker when I first wake up.
But he did get a haircut. Getting a haircut on thinning hair just makes it looks the balding more noticeable, but it’s just a haircut.
Haz is looking rested, moisturized and healthy. Love that for him! I literally cackled at the DMs manufactured outrage because like they’re yelling at Harry for suggesting… that working shouldn’t leave you crushingly exhausted and unable to live a happy and fulfilled life. Lol they can stay mad.
His shoulders look broader too!
He’s definitely been doing some weight training.
He reminds me of pictures of him when he was in the army. His shoulders were much broader, and you could see it in his neck, too. His neck and shoulders have that same look in this video. He had dropped some weight the last few years, partly due to a healthy diet, and probably due to stress, too. He looks rested, healthy, and much more at peace than we’ve seen him in awhile. I’m really happy for him. He’s done the work, both interior and exterior, and it shows.
He does!!! He looks genuinely happy and at peace!! He also seems at ease as he speaks as well. It’s wonderful to see Harry so happy and relaxed!! 😊
That is what is making the Islanders look like crazed druggies!! Another day of raging lunatics raging on and on about someone that is thousands of miles away on another continent and in another country. They will all be gray by the end of the day.
The entire event was impressive and informative. The typical outrage from the BM has become so predictable that it’s no longer registering with most people.
I’m grateful to Harry because he’s made the British press finally admit that royals don’t work. And I love Harry and Serena’s relationship, I bet they’ve learned a lot from each other.
For someone irrelevant to the British people, Prince Harry is trending in their country. They can’t help talking everything about him. He’s the man.
Don’t confuse the British press and Twitter with the population. Genuinely, we don’t pay them any attention, we have far more important things to be worrying about right now in the UK. Our lives are not consumed by this couple the way that some commenters on here go on, lol. I wish them well. It ain’t that deep.
Good that he’s doing this, men in his position in particular are hopeless at dealing with their feelings and acknowledging they might need help with their mental health. If he can raise awareness, I’m all for it
What was so interesting about this conversation was that Harry was usually was the one grounding it to take into account onormal people who have a harder time being able to set aside time tor Inner Work. His first comment was about how many people watching this might think ‘well all the stuff everyome is saying is great but I don’t bave the time’ and also referenced how much harder it is for single parents and those stretched thin with work and life obligations to do this. I think the key point was that if employers want their employees to better themselves they need to give them the space, time, and resources to do it. I know Invictus has been doing work with the NHS so I wonder if some of that was informing his comments here. Serena’s more prolonged comments on burnout were great as well.
Also LOVED the banter between Harry and Serena. Serena said that they talk all the time and the last time they sat on the lawn and talked for hours and you could definitely see that. They seem very close and supportive and Alexi seemed to love the banter too. It must be a nice change for Harry to be surrounded by people who actually care about his opinion and praise him publicly instead of being surrounded by snakes who feel the need to constantly to break him down at every corner.
I actually loved the fact that they sounded as though they spent time together.
That says to me that Harry and Meghan have cultivated a life with friends that they love – that the tabloids and media don’t know about.
Remember when the BM said that Serena had fallen out with Meghan and that Serena no longer spoke to H&M? The lies!
So exiting to think about. A great group of friends with influence who really care for one another
I thought the whole event was really engaging. D nice spoke as well & did a little set which was great. I also enjoyed the meditation moments.
It was good that they pointed out difficulties in getting that me time eg because of kids or especially if you are a single parent. For an irrelevant royal harry has had the great resignation & burnout trending in recent times.
Serena was spilling tea about how Harry connected her with a coach, helps her problem solve & how they speak for hours on his lawn. Shows that the uk media have no idea of Sussexes life if they had no reports on visits by Serena & Alexi. It’s just a reminder of how trash many in Harry’s circle in the uk were. They were running to Tatler & the tabloids about how they like to sit together at dinner parties etc.
Some UK commentators have been hilarious. Funny how they are saying Harry knows nothing of work so basically what the royals do isn’t work (I will pull this out when it’s the jubilee & endless propaganda of how hard Elizabeth has worked). Apparently Harry is also awful for suggesting employers ensure staff get decent breaks. With those types if Harry said cancer was bad they would literally say how dare he & run a list about the benefits of cancer
The commentators are so caught up in slamming Harry that they don’t realize they’re coming off as anti mental wellness, anti joy. How dare anyone advocate for a happy balanced life!
With my bosses approval I’ve instituted Movement Monday, Thoughtful Tuesday, Wellness Wednesday, etc and each day I post videos, quotes, hydration reminders several times a day. I’ve gotten great feedback from staff, one co-worker stated that I saved a life because I sent her a 2 minute calming breath video when I could see that she stressed. 😊. I say that if you can spend 10-15 minutes scrolling your phone, you have time for a walk, workout, meditation or period of gazing at the ceiling. Everyone just needs to determine what’s a priority for themselves.
Harry looks sporty to me, and happy. Which obviously means that Harry is trying to steal Kate’s sporty limelight after she took his rugby patronage.
Those British tab hacks coming after Harry and bashing the concept of me time when they are the laziest, most work-allergic group of so-called professionals on the planet? I am sure they go right to the pub for a pint and some self care quite early in the day every day. After all, it must take them ten minutes tops to churn out their slop articles, and then even less time to tweet another slam of H&M. All they do is make up lies, add a few lines of “it is thought that” or “it is suggested that,” then copy/paste chunks of text that say H&M live in a $14 million dollar house with 16 bathrooms, they left the monarchy in 2020 after their half-in half-out offer was rejected by the monarchy, William can’t put his arm around his brother anymore, blah, blah, blah. They are the worst.
They have to trash Harry’s efforts, not only because it’s Harry and his name generates clicks, but also because if they stopped to self-reflect they’d have to admit that they’re useless parasites. They write mindless crap all day so the tabloid owners can get rich and they soothe themselves by seeing their name in print. It’s a bleak existence, if they thought about it.
I wonder sometimes if any of them seek out a career like that, or if it’s something you just sort of settle for after struggling and failing to do something that’s more actual journalism.
@Margaret Sadovsky – that’s an interesting question. I imagine some of them got into the business because of their social status – the self-styled “royal experts.” Some might have fallen into it because it’s easy. And the news business has been more about entertainment for a long time now, so you either go with it or leave start and start a blog or something.
Harry looks relaxed and great. I love that ET interviewed them, very neutral and honest article about two parents living their lives, no lies and glamour and sublimal narratives. Such a big difference. Good job.
When Harry brings up that employers have a responsibility for their staff’s mental well-being he hits the nail on the head – mental health is often packaged as if it’s an individual’s responsibility, sure there are things we can all do to help ourselves, however a big part of it is also a societal issue – lack of money, lack of resources, lack of security etc these are huge factors at play in mental health and employers should absolutely be stepping up to do their part.
It’s a very important point. The lack of concern towards employees’ mental health contribute to burnout. Add it to other pressures in life and people reach their tipping point. You can find yourself physically collapsing just from the weight of your mental exhaustion.
It’s elitist to say take 30 minutes to yourself every day to not burn our, but not elitist to say if your children aren’t getting daily hours of uninterrupted play time in an thousand acre wood protected from development from ages birth – 5 you’ve failed as a parent, which is essentially Kate’s message. Got it.
+1
He’s definitely growing into the whole motivational speaker thing.
I listened throughout the day and was really reminded about taking time for myself. I like what Paul Gasol was saying about waking up in the morning and asking how you feel? I need to do more of that and it’s really true that in this day and age it easy to go go go until you’ve burnt out. As Alex said doing the work to come back from that stage can be even harder.
It’s always so interesting seeing the reaction of the BM. And it’s exclusively the BM lol.
Even Fox News had a good article about better up leading up to this conference.
The intentional manipulation of Harry’s words and the desperation to try and twist anything he says is mind boggling.
I’m thankful for the American media landscape to counter all the ridiculousness even though they aren’t perfect either. I feel sorry for those who live in the Uk and have to be subjected to the BM mess. I notice more people are tuning it out. But It’s no wonder Boris is still in power.
Anyways free advertisement for Harry and Better Up. Harry and Meghan will never have to worry about doing media for their projects because of the BM and their constant fake outrage will take care of it for them.
The Firm and the BM may have taught royalists to hate Harry, but around the world, he is respected and loved, and for reasons that go far beyond his bloodline.
Yes, ITA. Harry is loved the world over.
Yes. They hate that he chose to become who he wants to be and not who they wanted him to be. He’s not treading in the sludge of the royal machine. Diana would approve of him having a life outside the palace walls and standing up for his wife with his whole chest. Non royalists understand this and they make up a much greater part of the world’s population.
I don’t think the concept of “me time” is elitist. It’s something that’s been talked about at all social and economic levels. Yes “me time” looks differently for everyone depending on time, wealth and access but even something as simple as a daily 10 mins walk can be your “me time”. It doesn’t have to be super fancy or expensive.
Thanks @Sofia! I’ve literally done breath exercises while standing in line at the grocery store or listened to meditation podcasts while commuting to/from work. None of “self care’ needs to cost money or lots of time, it just needs to be done.
Serena needs to slow down on the fillers.
That’s what you took from this conversation?
Where do u see fillers on Serena? Thats qWhite an interesting observation. Youve prolly been watching too much RHOBH.
I see it and frankly, it looks awful and is becoming a distraction. I agree focusing on a woman’s looks instead of what she is saying can be problematic…
Serena is the GOAT but her doctor is doing her dirty as she is stumbling close into the uncanny valley territory. I hope she stops soon!
@harla I rarely watch TV. In fact, I wake up at 5:30 every morning so that by the time I start work I have already taken my dog for a walk, then gone for a run (or yoga on my rest days) and had a relaxing bath. I was not referring to myself, but I do feel that people have different ways of relaxing, or different ideas of what “me” time is. It feels a bit condescending to say to people to get off the TV and spend their free time the way that I would. So I don’t.
Hi Ines! Fair enough, if this isn’t something that someone wants to do or isn’t a priority for them then they don’t need to do it. I was just pointing out that if self care is something that someone wants in their life, then there are ways to incorporate it that might take some creative thinking and setting priorities and boundaries.
I think he looks good with the shorter hair. I can see he’s lost some but it still looks good.
Prince Harry is a full fledged tech exec. I tuned into the whole thing. Didn’t catch everything but some good conversations. As a freelancer working from home, was actually good to sit in on a work forced seminar. Was great to hear Harry and Serena’s discussion, it did ramble a little but it got more focused toward the end and they had some good nuggets in there. Harry set Serena up with her BetterUp coach. She doesn’t shy away from investing in companies that have had failures. He seemed really comfortable admitting he still figuring things out, revisits techniques that worked or him, sometimes reluctantly, when things aren’t currently working out. From a work perspective, BetterUp mentioned they do small things like no Friday meetings, and having built in 5 minute breaks with meetings so 55 minute time blocks, or 10 minute breaks for the whole company. It doesn’t sound like much but it helps with giving employees a little space. The US is so work focused but doesn’t really like workers. Anyway, great discussions, good guests in the mix like DJ D-Nice. Gotta say was really happy to see Harry, love his haircut, he looked really cute, and live the little anecdotes about the kids and family life.
If “I’ve moved on” were a person, it would be Prince Harry. I think he’s found his niche in life or at least he’s well on his way.
Working in the US sounds absolutely awful is my takeaway from this.
A 5 min break from a 55 minutes meeting? Didnt you guys get coffee breaks with your colleagues back when we used to work in the office? Must you be constantly online now that we’re working from home that 10 min break has to be given to the company ? Im a manager, if someone needs to pop out to fetch his kids/ run errands or do a power nap, no one bats an eyelid
I am an accountant, and my first job out of college was for a pretty good sized firm. The only people who took a reasonable amount of breaks throughout the day were the smokers. Sincerely, if one wanted a break, smoking seemed to be the only option. It was awful.
One of the “influencers” I follow on IG had an informal poll on her stories the other day re which brother you like best. Her husband implied W would win. It was more like 70-30 for H. She also said H was the one carrying on his mother’s work.
She’s an American and I expect most of her followers are as well.
Tbh I couldn’t really care what any hater or deranger or even “influencers” for that matter feel about Harry. Harry is at a stage now in his life that he is at peace and happy with life – being a father with two babies, being a husband and having new-found friends that actually CARE about his opinion and his efforts to serve the community at large. I can only say that I am very proud of them for carving a life for themselves and their children. Their love story is one for the ages, and will be remembered as a classic example for removing yourself from toxic situations. So glad to see him and hear his insights on issues relating to the corporate environment like burnouts and all. Can’t wait to see more of their works in the future.
I hope when the queen die,
Harry will relinquish his line of succession.
Let them sh#t in their pants because Andrew will be the future king if anything happen to charles and william family.
Harry looks buff. If he shaved his head and kept the facial hair he would look even more handsome. No hair plugs, please.