Kourtney Kardashian: KUWTK ‘became a really toxic environment at the end for me’

For many years, Kourtney Kardashian was The Miserable One. She was the wet blanket, the nitpicker, the naysayer, the one who didn’t want to be on camera for the family’s business, Keeping Up with the Kardashians. Towards the end of the series, Kourtney pulled the plug on her part of the show, vowing to step away permanently after a particularly rough and physical fight with Kim. Something happened when Kourtney stepped away: she got a life and she got happy. She fell in love with Travis Barker, she and Scott Disick found a better co-parenting groove and she’s just… happy. Or happier. And so she agreed to go back to reality television, this time for the family’s new Hulu show. Which brings us here, to this Bustle cover interview. Kourtney talks a lot about what was going on with her emotionally during KUWTK and why it’s different this time. Some highlights:

On KUWTK: “Shooting our show, it became a really toxic environment at the end for me. I would fight with my sisters. There was, like, just a lot going on. And even for me personally, I wasn’t in the happiest place. I felt like I was being almost a character. ‘This is Kourtney, and she’s in a bad mood, so even though she was laughing really at lunch, we’re going to cut out the laughing and let’s only use the annoying comment that she said.’”

How she feels now: “I see the growth that comes from those unhappy places which make it all worth it. I’m like, ‘If we didn’t go through these roller coasters, you wouldn’t get to the good part.’ There’s no one I’d rather spend time with than my sisters… Workwise, I’m happier than I’ve ever been.”

Why she started her lifestyle brand Poosh: “It was really important to me when I started Poosh that it was something that I was doing for myself. That it didn’t involve my mom.”

Why she would say “no” to everything for years: “I just used to be really indecisive. I felt like I had to poll a lot of people to help me decide things. … I think it was in a time when I maybe felt more insecure or not in the greatest relationships.” In the meantime, she and Khloé could always “gang up” on Kim, she says, because, as the center square of the family, Kim could handle it. “I was used to always being a bitch and having no feelings.”

She ended up being super-emotional on KUWTK: “It made me really sensitive. And normally I’d have a really good comeback [to insults], like, ‘Well, you’re covered in cellulite.’ But then I would be like, ‘I have nothing mean to say. I’m not a bitch anymore, and I just have feelings; like, an abundance of them.’” Kardashian was disarmed, left without her shield of disaffection or the unfortunate weapon of calling her sisters fat. “I would just start crying all the time,” she says.

Work is not her priority: “People are always using my quote where I say, ‘Working is not my top priority; it never will be.’ And it’s kind of true. Like, I want to work to the place where I’m happy. Right now, I’m actually working more than I have [on Poosh].”

[From Bustle]

The most telling quote, to me, is “It was really important to me when I started Poosh that it was something that I was doing for myself. That it didn’t involve my mom.” Kourtney was never a big believer in “Momager Kris.” Kourtney is the oldest and she didn’t need Kris to hold her hand or stage-manage her. If anything, Kourtney might have the healthiest relationship with Kris? Healthy in the sense that Kourtney is her own grown-ass person, making her own decisions, with little to no input from mom. As for Kourtney’s new journey on this Hulu series… I hate to put it all down to Travis, but I do think her engagement to Travis has made a world of difference. Kourtney is happier because she’s with someone she adores and who adores her. She was miserable with Scott because they kind of hated each other.

Photos courtesy of Bustle/Instagram.

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  1. Luna17 says:

    The more I read about this family and show the more I think this family is just a worthless bunch of spoiled people with no redeeming qualities.

    • Colby says:


      And finally Ray J said the quiet part out loud, that they have been lying the whole time about the sex tape being leaked and made him out to be a villain for no reason as they got to be billionaires.

      I’ve stood up for Kim regarding Kanye but don’t get it twisted – this is a family of vile people.

    • Formerly Lithe says:

      I think that society is so much worse for the space this family takes up in the media. Their shamelessness knows no bounds and I’m tired of seeing it packaged as empowerment and self determination.

      After weakly claiming that her comments were taken out of context, you-know-who may have moved past her “n0body wants to work these days” soundbite for their new series, but I haven’t. I have pulled back on reading/commenting on stories about this family and I have them muted and blocked on social media. I’ll admit I did skim the story here where that other one was invoking VA’s name in defence of her costume while claiming she doesn’t care what anyone says. I had thoughts but I’m limiting my comment to this one right here. And now, I’ll go back to ignoring their existence.

    • Josephine says:

      toxic is exactly the right word. she thinks the show was toxic for her, and i think the entire family is toxic to the rest of us. everything they do and stand for is incredibly damaging and people keep making excuses for them. to me, they are as disgusting and damaging as the worst politicans and the most greedy billion/millionaires.

  2. KASalvy says:

    Maybe because your family is toxic and a horrible environment

  3. NorthernGirl_20 says:

    I agree

  4. els says:

    And yet she continues to be part of it.

    • ME says:

      Exactly. Why is she a part of the new HULU show then? Oh yeah, it’s easy money for them. It’s a way for us to keep talking about them. This whole “I want my privacy and want to be normal” is just a part of her storyline. Not only is she LESS private now, she’s got her new fiance a part of it too !

    • Missskitttin says:

      exactly the same show, different name.

  5. Eggbert says:

    “And normally I’d have a really good comeback [to insults], like, ‘Well, you’re covered in cellulite.’”

    Yes what a good comeback, Khourtney. This family just makes my brain hurt.

  6. iseepinkelefants says:

    Kourtney was actually the first famous one. I guess people don’t remember that E! show where a bunch of rich kid’s worked on a cattle ranch? It’s weird that she became the one (after Rob) to kind of shun it as she was the first of the Kardashians who tried to become a celebrity. Had she been Kris’ favorite she might have had Kim’s fame.

    • Bobbi says:

      I think Kourtney finally has something exciting to talk about. She was pretty boring and had really nothing to talk about on KUWTK..I mean Scott is old news. Now she’s with Travis so of course she’s willing to film…she got something to talk about for once.