Donald Trump spent hours chatting with two white nationalists & antisemites

Donald Trump hasn’t done much since he announced his third presidential run. He’s just staying in Mar-a-Lago, waiting to be indicted. He threw his usual Thanksgiving dinner at Mar-a-Lago too, and someone (possibly Bigly) invited Kanye West. Kanye, in turn, invited a man named Nick Fuentes. Since antisemites are repugnant to me – as in, I feel violently ill covering them – I didn’t know Fuentes’s name off the top of my head. According to people in the know, Fuentes is a major figure in the White nationalist movement and he’s one of America’s premier Holocaust deniers. I’m not surprised that he’s an associate of Ye, nor am I surprised that Trump welcomed him to MAL. This is how it went down:

Former President Donald Trump hosted White nationalist and Holocaust denier Nick Fuentes and rapper Kanye West at his Mar-a-Lago estate this week, demonstrating his continued willingness to associate with figures who have well-publicized antisemitic views as he embarks on another White House run. West, who has legally changed his name to Ye, posted a video Thursday on Twitter in which he claimed that Trump “is really impressed with Fuentes,” who has repeatedly made antisemitic and racist comments as chronicled by the Anti-Defamation League.

Fuentes, West said in the Twitter video, “is actually a loyalist” to Trump, unlike others who he said abandoned the former president after the 2020 election.

In a text message conversation tweeted by West on Thursday, he and Fuentes said they both met with the former president. A source familiar with the dinner confirmed to CNN that Trump on Tuesday met with Fuentes and West. The source said that Fuentes was a guest of West, who attended the dinner along with Karen Giorno, who ran Trump’s 2016 Florida campaign, and another unidentified man. The group feasted on a Thanksgiving dinner for roughly two hours at Trump’s outdoor patio table.

Trump was engaged with Fuentes and found him “very interesting,” the source said, particularly Fuentes’ abilities to rattle off statistics and data, and his familiarity with Trump world. At one point during the dinner, Trump declared that he “liked” Fuentes. According to the source, the dinner grew tense at various times, including after West asked Trump to join his 2024 campaign ticket for president as vice president, which Trump “laughed off.” The source could not pinpoint the exact moment the former president’s mood shifted.

Trump acknowledged the dinner in a post on Truth Social Friday stating: “This past week, Kanye West called me to have dinner at Mar-a-Lago. Shortly thereafter, he unexpectedly showed up with three of his friends, whom I knew nothing about. We had dinner on Tuesday evening with many members present on the back patio. The dinner was quick and uneventful. They then left for the airport.”

Trump repeated later Friday that he “didn’t know” Fuentes and had offered West business as well as political advice.

“I told him he should definitely not run for President, ‘any voters you may have should vote for TRUMP,’” the former president wrote on Truth Social. “Anyway, we got along great, he expressed no anti-Semitism, & I appreciated all of the nice things he said about me on ‘Tucker Carlson.’”

[From CNN]

Trump has been on Truth Social ever since Thanksgiving, giving various denials about what was discussed and how long he spoke to Ye and Nick Fuentes. I actually believe that Ye would just turn up at MAL with guests and that Trump wouldn’t know who they were ahead of time. I also believe that Kanye is probably too manic to make much sense these days, and that was probably why Trump’s mood shifted. Trump was being out-crazied by Ye. All that being said, Trump’s campaign is clearly in damage-control mode, not just about the fact that Trump spent hours chatting it up with two known white supremacists and antisemites, but because Trump then lied about it online. One of Trump’s advisors (unnamed) told MSNBC that the whole thing was a “f–king nightmare” and this amateurish incident will give people a reason to vote for DeSantis.

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  1. Lolo86lf says:

    It infuriates me when I see horrible racist a-holes such as Nick having a Spanish surname. I googled him to find out if he is of Latin or Spanish descent but I didn’t find out anything. Most of the media is not giving this much coverage of course. They would much rather focus on Biden’s early Christmas at the White House.

    • Amy Bee says:

      The former leader of the Proud Boys was a white Cuban.

      • Cait C says:

        Cuban yes but a white Cuban No.Enrique Tarrio under no circumstances could pass for White Cuban or otherwise. That was a large part of his appeal to The Proud Boys. Having a Latino with visible Black Ancestry as their leader gave them plausible deniability when it came to the groups racism and dedication to White Supremacy. Nick Fuentes is a white Cuban. Anti-blackness is rife in the Latino community as always has been so your shock is kind of strange

    • SophieJara says:

      I think racism and anti-Blackness are just as bad if not worse in Latin America, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be a white supremacist.

      • Miranda says:

        True, racism and bigotry exist everywhere, but the mere fact that people who belong to a minority group themselves might be racist isn’t what’s so incomprehensible to me as a (half) Latinx person. It’s the fact that people like Fuentes are basically the “pick me” girls of racism, thinking that they’re special and that, when Republicans declare open season on minorities, the hate and violence won’t touch them.

        If Nick Fuentes weren’t a Holocaust denier, he might have known that the Nazis didn’t target just a bunch of Hasidic Jews living in Eastern European shtetls. A single, distant Jewish ancestor was reason enough to murder a person, even if those great-great grandparents had converted to Christianity a century earlier.

      • Annalise says:

        I’m a white Cuban and Caucasion asperational-ism (not sure if thats a word) and colorism are RIFE in Latino culture. I wish people talked about it more.
        My brother and I both have typical white Cuban coloring (think Ariel Winter. I don’t know what her background is, but she and I have the same exact coloring). When my younger sister was born blonde, and STAYED blonde, my Cuban family treated her like a unicorn……..

    • Aeren says:

      Latin America also has its racism issues. It isn’t as simple as all Latin Americans get along and they have no issues. We have our history as well that includes colonialism, caste systems, racism, colorism…

    • Glenn says:

      Trump is nothing more than a Russian cocksucker. There is no-one more racist than the Jewish state. Kanye needs to go on meds and go

      • Naomi Pascoe says:

        Hey Glenn,
        You just throw that out there, your second sentence. Want to back that up, or you just going to leave your anti-Zionism out there in a completely unrelated article? Or, just maybe it is true that anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism are related? Hmmm.

      • Lucy says:

        I don’t Glenn…The United States of America is prettttttttty racist.

    • Sparky says:

      I feel the same way with respect to Stephen Miller and Ben Shapiro. They will be members of the “group” for a finite period of time. History has shown us that once their usefulness has expired, the antisemitism will be applied to them as well.

  2. Sumodo1 says:

    Kanye’s still wearing a wedding ring.

  3. Amy Bee says:

    Kanye is not manic, he’s a self loathing white supremacist.

    • Sue E Generis says:


      • Tacky says:

        Kanye can be manic and an a-hole at the same time. Right now he is desperately seeking attention and validation. The only way he can get it is by going ever further to the fringes of the right wing where being an a-hole is a requirement. Elon Musk is experiencing something similar.

      • Tacky says:

        Kanye can be manic and an a-hole at the same time. He is desperately seeking attention and validation which is forcing him to go to the fringes of the right wing where being an a-hole is a requirement. Elon Musk is experiencing something similar.

    • Chantal says:

      @Amy Bee Exactly! Thank you for saying the quiet part out loud. I don’t think Ye has actually sat down with a mental health professional long enough to get an accurate psych diagnosis so I won’t attribute his evil, erratic, and constantly manic behavior to being bipolar. And the DSM-5 doesn’t have a specific diagnosis for being an ahole. He still hasn’t figured out that he’s the “for now” useful idiot. Of course 45 met with him to discourage him from running for prez. It wont work since they both have god complexes and won’t listen to rational people.
      If I were Kim, I’d follow his example by dropping his last name and change all of the kids last name to Kardashian.
      Sigh. I’ll be so glad when we start having serious and well qualified people running for prez again…

      • OriginalLeigh says:

        Kanye has been hospitalized following breakdowns so I think it’s likely that he has been diagnosed. I agree that his mental health issues are no excuse for his anti-Black and anti-Jewish behavior, but I don’t think it’s right to suggest that someone is lying about a diagnosis.

    • Sparky says:

      Kanye is a misogynist, racist and antisemitic a-hole. That has nothing to do with mental illness. Deciding to buy Parler as a knee-jerk response to getting kicked off of social media is another matter. (I have bipolar disorder.)

      • Serenity says:

        Sparky, I have Bipolar Disorder also. It hasn’t turned me into a self-hating, misogynistic asshole yet. I was first diagnosed when I was 17, and now I am 56. All of those years were spent finding the right combination of meds-but also a *lot* of therapy and soul-searching to understand why I get triggered and how to respond better to those triggers. They are still in me, and I still have times where I have horrific panic attacks (think 911 and ending up in the ER) but it takes work every single day.

        Ye has been doing the opposite of that by leaning *into* his triggers and trying to convince everyone else that his behavior is a good thing rather than having to admit to himself that he needs help.

        I feel so sorry for their children.

  4. Brassy Rebel says:

    “The Black guy brought the Nazi to dinner at my house” is the new “The dog ate my homework” excuse.

    Btw, Trump continues to have Secret Service protection, and Fuentes wouldn’t have gotten in without a background check being done. So, it would be very unusual if Trump didn’t know beforehand. I’m guessing he was warned and probably was advised not to meet him.

    • C-Shell says:

      This is the part that is head-scratching. How do a handful of unknown people waltz unscathed into the presence of anyone under SS protection, especially people who are a danger to society? Well, Trump’s version of this is horseshit, of course. Unhinged as he is, Ye’s version is probably close to the truth.

      • OriginalLeigh says:

        Exactly. Trump obviously knew in advance that he was coming. He just didn’t know that Kanye and Fuentes would tell everyone about it. I’m not sure why anyone finds this shocking given that Trump is also a white supremacist…

      • Julia K says:

        With 24/7 secret service protection, no one shows up at your door with 3 unannounced friends and think that people are dumb enough to believe you didn’t know. Compulsive liars just can’t figure out that they are not the smartest guys in the room. Trumps impending indictment will not change the fact that he has supporters that will continue this sht show.

      • Tacky says:

        Trump controls who has access to him. Secret service is not doing background checks on his dinner guests.

      • Sparky says:

        This part is interesting. While Kanye may well have brought uninvited guests one would expect the Secret Service to do at least some vetting. That said, Trump has been arguing that MAL is a private club with limited access as part of his classified documents case. This means anyone can get in…

    • Donna Sek says:

      And it was Thanksgiving, a holiday you spend with friends and family.

    • BeanieBean says:

      That right there. Nobody should just be able to show up without having undergone a background check by the Secret Service. And was it Thanksgiving or was it Tuesday, there seems to be different versions. Or they had a turkey at dinner on Tuesday? Which was it?

  5. HeyKay says:

    Trump and his followers are all garbage.

    • Duchess of Corolla says:

      Yes, they are. There are not enough words to adequately describe how loathsome and vile the Trumpers are. Horrible. They have destroyed America. They have incited what I consider to be a civil war that is tearing families apart. They are a plague.

  6. Sascha says:

    Really, they did this on purpose. They always always tell on themselves. The last comment that “now people have a reason to vote for DeSantis”. Yup. Trump is going to hang his loss around Kanye’s neck til kingdom come. When will people of color learn white supremacy only uses them, never includes them? mark my words. Trump knows he’s out and he just scapegoated Kanye on his way down.

  7. HeyKay says:

    DM has a headline in which Trump calls Kanye “A seriously troubled man”
    If Trump thinks you are troubled, and we know what a vile man Trump is, it must be pretty bad.

  8. FHMom says:

    The press is completely ignoring Trump except when he pulls something outrageous like this. Without the support of Fox News, all I hear is crickets.

  9. phaedra7 says:

    “VULTURES of a feather flock together!” These cretins are really showing their HATRED and don’t care if the whole Planet knows it! People, continue to VOTE these BUZZARDS out–whether they are in office or trying to be elected to a political office! With COVID, wars, and other strife, law-abiding humans (regardless of gender, racial background, sexual orientation, age, or physical/mental abilities) should not have to suffer regarding creatures like those 3 (plus Musky) trying to rule! 👆☝🏽

  10. ME says:

    What is Kanye’s end game here? Nick is a total piece of sh*t. He freely uses the N word and talks so disgustingly about Black people. Why would Nick associate with Kanye? Does he think Kanye is a “different kind of Black person”? One that can be used for his gain? I don’t understand any of this.

    • Lucy says:

      He’s a fame w*#re and hates women, so he and Kanye have that in common. I’ve seen clips of Nick saying you should be able to punch women, he wishes women could still be burned, etc. So violent misogyny is the answer.

    • Colby says:

      Kanye is a narcissist and thinks he’s smarter than he is. If you showed him a picture of green grass he would say it’s red because he thinks that makes him look like he’s thinking outside the box. He’s hanging out with a Nazi because he’s not supposed to so he thinks it makes him look like he “gets it” and we don’t. He has no end game other than to fuel his own ego.

      Nick is 100% using Kanye. He knows all he has to do is tell Kanye he’s “one of the good ones” or say “see, Im not racist, I’m friends with you!!” and Kanye will hang out with him.

      • Gabby says:

        Yes, and Kanye is running out of people who will associate with him and take his calls. He doesn’t like being on his own, and needs to rebuild a posse, so just about anyone will do.

  11. Smile says:

    Trump is a seriously troubled man who happens to be Orange.

  12. tamsin says:

    This is truly frightening.

  13. Trillion says:

    not sure if it was intentional on Kaiser’s part, but Mar-A-Lago being shortened to “MAL” is so fitting and accurate.

  14. HeyKay says:

    After reading these comments I just had a thought, can you imagine being a Secret Service member and you are assigned guarding Trump now that he is an Ex-President?
    I mean to guard the sitting POTUS is an honor, I would think.
    But to be assigned to Trump or his family, after all the garbage that is known?

    Man, that requires a level of professionalism I do not have.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      HeyKay, well, if those particular agents of the secret service agree with Trump, then I can see they would be happy to be there. When Biden got the agents who had guarded him when he was vice president after he won the election, it told me quite a lot about the problems within the secret service. Why haven’t we heard anything about agents being booted?

  15. Liza says:

    So Kanye thinks he’s white???

  16. pottymouth pup says:

    Fuentes, in addition to being virulently antisemitic & anti-Black is also a raging misogynist (no surprise) as well.

    As expected, the only prominent Republicans to speak out against this & actually criticize Trump are: Chris Christie (supposedly still thinks he has a chance at POTUS), Liz Cheney & Adam Kinzinger. In other words, only Republicans who have nothing to lose are calling him out on this.

    It should be noted that Marjorie Taylor Greene has supported Fuentes and spoken at his AFPAC convention and her association doesn’t seem to be standing in the way of Kevin McCarthy putting her on committees.

    DeSantis and those putting their faith in him in 2024 aren’t condemning Fuentes because Nazis & other white supremacists/Christian Nationalists are DeSantis’s base and he won’t speak against them being out en force at all of his rallies.

    The only problem the GOP leadership has with Fuentes is that (a) he’s completely dispensed with coded language & dog whistles & (b) he says the quiet part out loud about everything, including admitting the GOP can’t actually win elections without gerrymandering & preventing people from voting because they are not the majority as they claim

  17. chicagoGirl says:

    Nick Fuentes grew up down the street. He was valedictorian at a very progressive high school in the suburbs of Chicago, really nice kid. It was shocking when he started leading the local ‘White Lives Matter’ movements. I can’t underscore enough how dangerous someone so smart and seemingly normal is to our democracy.

  18. jferber says:

    I wonder if all this shit will increase or decrease his 30 million supporters. He is going MORE extreme, not less. Frightening.

  19. LaurenAPMT says:

    Yeah, no, I don’t buy for one second that Trump’s security didn’t check Nick Fuentes out before he was allowed on the property

  20. Pajalakenora says:

    Serenity, I have so much respect for your honesty and hard work. I’m sure your challenges have given you profound insights and depth. I have two bipolar brothers who did not do the work and it was very hard not just on them but on me and my family.

  21. Vexxy says:

    I wish I didn’t know who Fuentes is, but sadly I do and have done for a couple of years. Nobody has mentioned him being into being a catboy. In my head he and Trump talked in depth about being catboys instead of white nationalism. I can dream.