Two weeks ago, America was obsessed with the Chinese “spy balloon” floating its way across the continental United States. It was a very weird story – the balloon was being tracked on military radar the whole time, and apparently President Biden ordered the military to shoot down the balloon when it was halfway across the country. They waited until the balloon went over North Carolina, and an F-22 Raptor shot down the balloon just over Myrtle Beach. It was said that the Coast Guard (or whoever) gathered up the remnants of the balloon for intelligence purposes. It was also said that China had been sending spy balloons over America for years, and during the Trump administration, Trump never did anything about them.
Following the mysterious spy balloon, people have simply been paying more attention to the sky. There’s something unsettling about the reality that we’re being monitored in our own airspace, and weirder still, that some of the unidentified flying objects are coming from parts unknown. All of which to say, over the past four days, three UFOs have been shot down over North America. It’s insane.
Pentagon and intelligence officials are trying to make sense of three unidentified flying objects over Alaska, Canada and Michigan that U.S. fighter jets shot down with missiles on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. The latest turn in the aerial show taking place in the skies above North America comes after a helter-skelter weekend involving what at times seemed like an invasion of unidentified flying objects.
The latest object had first been spotted on Saturday over Montana, initially sparking debate over whether it even existed. On Saturday, military officials detected a radar blip over Montana, which then disappeared, leading them to conclude it was an anomaly. Then a blip appeared Sunday over Montana, then Wisconsin and Michigan. Once military officials obtained visual confirmation, they ordered an F-16 to shoot it down over Lake Huron.
There are two big questions around the episodes: What were the craft? And why does the United States appear to be seeing more suddenly, and shooting down more?
There are no answers to the first question yet. American officials do not know what the objects were, much less their purpose or who sent them.
For the second, it is not clear if there are suddenly more objects. But what is certain is that in the wake of the recent incursion by a Chinese spy balloon, the U.S. and Canadian militaries are hypervigilant in flagging some objects that might previously have been allowed to pass.
The NYT goes on to say that after the Chinese spy balloon, NORAD adjusted their radar so they could pick up smaller objects, which has led to… all of this. Suddenly, NORAD is seeing all of these UFOs. And I’m not using “UFOs” to mean that all of these flying objects are alien aircraft. I’m saying that they are truly “unidentified” and the government isn’t giving us any explanations (yet) for what the f–k is going on. I’m not naive – I get that everyone is spying on everyone. I get that foreign governments are monitoring North America. I get that the American government monitors its own citizens. But this whole “three UFOs have been shot down in three days” thing feels very different. Right??
Did y’all watch that Unsolved Mysteries episode “Something in the Sky,” all about the UFO sightings in Michigan in 1994? That’s what I kept thinking about this weekend. What if… these are really aliens?
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In the immortal words of Sting, “I hope the Russians love their children too”
Jesus. I hope we get more info on this from Biden. It’s really concerning and we need some answers.
I can’t imagine that any civilization that developed interstellar/intergalactic space travel could have devices or craft that could easily be shot down by our technology. Sounds far-fetched.
Not just far-fetched, also absurd… why would the aliens just target the USA?? The first object they’d come across is the International Space Station and several satellites…
It sounds like the American skies were being targeted by flying spy devices…
Based on that footage the Navy released, there’s no way we could shoot down anything real aliens would be flying around out there. These are espionage crafts.
Exactly. These are espionage craft AND they’ve been flying overhead for decades. I’d guess going back to post-WII (in ever more advanced forms). Why everyone is in a snit about it now…well, I think the public is being manipulated because of politics. And the media is happy to play along.
Not sure where I read this but it applies – “What I don’t get is that there are so many galaxies in the universe and the aliens are coming to earth to look for intelligent life. Boy, they are lost. “
To quote Calvin and Hobbes (and hopefully not misquote): I think the surest sign there’s intelligent life in the universe is that none of it has visited us.
Word, to both of you. Seriously, if this is the moment aliens come to Earth, I feel kinda sorry for the aliens. The population of this planet is a sh*t show, good luck finding intelligence.
The truth is up there.
We will always be the last to know. And whatever they tell us will be watered down. Meanwhile the media will blow it all up to scare people.
This. They are not going to share sensitive information with the public. Period.
Whatever we get will be – understandably – heavily filtered.
We are clearly able to identify and shoot down these objects. I’m not losing any sleep over this. We’re going to be just fine.
Tbh there are foreign country satellites orbiting the earth that are surveilling us all of the time with incredibly fine detail so I would not get hung up on that aspect of it. My take is that whatever these ufos are, they are trying to gather some kind of data that spy satellites taking photos can’t gather, like something about wind currents or air quality or sound.
Interesting, especially about atmospheric currents and direction, etc. Maybe research for aiming weapons that are non-traditional (eg. Havana syndrome).
Havana syndrome and what causes it are what worry me. That’s a whole other level of warfare basically.
If they’re adjusting their radar so that now it picks up smaller objects then one could assume these objects were flying around before undetected…realistically speaking they could be anything, debris from other aircraft, spy technology…and they are quite probably benign (the ones that weren’t the Chinese one) given that the White House shot them down out of an “abundance of caution”. But who knows.
I lived in that part of Michigan when all of that happened and I don’t remember any of it. I never even heard of it until my husband, who also lived there at the time, randomly decided to watch unsolved mysteries one night. I have to say though it was not very convincing. I’ve watched a ton of unsolved mysteries and ghosts and UFO stuff and some of it really makes me think but this one really didn’t.
These three UFOs though? Idk, I don’t trust anyone in our govt at this point so I don’t expect to get a straight answer.
If this is China, boy have they some freakin’ nerve. If it’s aliens, we might be starting an intergalactic war. If it’s Russia, why didn’t Sarah Palin see them coming? Is she covering for Russia? Is she a Russian asset and spy?
To quote Jane Lane in Daria, “If there were any aliens smart enough to come here, they wouldn’t be stupid enough to come *here*.”
Where are Mulder and Scully?
Seems like these objects are so small that they have been evading radar detection. Then NORAD adjusted to detect smaller objects and are finding a lot of them. So how long has this been going on? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I had no idea there was an Unsolved Mysteries on UFO sightings in Michigan. I swear that I saw a UFO in Northern Michigan when I was 10 or 11 years old. I’ll have to watch that episode.
I clicked the link in the post and I was staying at a cabin on the eastern shore of Lake Michigan! Wild!
Yes there have been a lot of “sightings” by many in Michigan I grew up in the Upper Peninsula, many blamed it on the “northern lights” but others were adamant that they saw ufos. It was even part of the storyline in Jeff Daniel’s “Escanaba in the Moonlight” play/movie which always made me laugh because if you’ve lived there you know people exactly like the characters.
There’s a whole Unsolved Mysteries episode on Netflix (the relaunched one, not the one hosted by Robert Stack) about UFO sightings in Massachusetts in 1969. It’s from the first season, 5th episode called “Berkshires UFO.” Many people reported seeing/experiencing really weird things that day! I remember because the first episodes came out during covid quarantine in 2020 and my family and I binged the episodes! My sister was all out of sorts about that episode because while she had heard of people reporting seeing UFOs, she was completely unaware that people have also claimed to see real aliens and claims of being kidnapped in their spaceships and being experimented on by them (I forget if that episode has claims of kidnappings but some people say they experienced some VERY weird things). She completely missed the X-Files bandwagon because we were so young in the 90s when it aired.
Just want to add that during all this there is a Chernobyl-like event happening in Ohio, a plume of megatoxins from a train derailment that has killed fish life & birds and surely is going to give many people cancer. So everything is feel especially apocalyptic right now. (the aliens i can’t explain, but the train derailment would have been avoided if the railroad workers had been allowed to strike, given that they had been warning about something like this happening if the RR companies didn’t step in to fix crumbling infrastructure.)
Totally agree. There has hardly been any good coverage of this and it’s really very scary. I live in a town with a lot of railroads and although it’s a lot bigger than EP in Ohio I’m still really worried it could happen here.
If you live within 5 miles of a railroad track (and most of us do) then you need to recognize it as a potential environmental hazard just like the risk of earthquake/wildfire/tornado/blizzard/tsunami or any other location-specific danger. Scary stuff travels by rail every day of the year. Keep socks, undies, basic toiletries, comfortable shoes, a weeks worth of prescription meds, and copies of your documents packed in a backpack close to your main entry. It’s like keeping an earthquake kit.
Also relevant to the accident in Ohio: Republicans and train execs have been preventing all a manner of safety regulations that might have prevented the catastrophe.
And if these were alien craft coming by unknown technology from galaxies far away, ain’t no way we’re able to idly shoot them down.
It will be interesting to finally find out what is going on. I think we can all agree whatever is going on is not good. It is terrifying to me because my adult children live on the Great Lakes so far these “ufos” have been shot down without injuries on the ground but that could change. Also being so low just how long before they endanger a plane filled with passengers? I am glad to see Canada and the USA working together on this thing also.
Let’s just set up a national OnlyFans account and make some damn money off these creepy, nosey bastards.
I’m in Canada but I read some American theories on Twitter that these are to distract from what’s happening in Ohio.
I would highly doubt that. The derailment was far from national news although it should have been. Thankfully they were able to burn off the vinyl chloride to prevent explosions and the EPA and other authorities have been monitoring air and water contaminants assiduously. For the moment the danger isn’t high but the EPA admits that only when they can come up with a remediation plan can they assess the real damage. It’s unfortunate that the materials spilled are extremely toxic but the one bright point is that they don’t have the longevity of nuclear material.
And unfortunately this kind of thing happens all the time without the federal government getting involved to try to distract.
That is a lot of unexplained technology being used to distract from a disaster that is being written about. I read my news, I don’t rely on televised news so I have no idea if the tv stations are reporting on the disaster, but I have read a lot of articles on it. The latest was on how many family pets are sick and dying. It is going to be horrible for anyone who was around there at the time of the derailment. I also read they were allowing residence to return to their homes which seems far too soon and reckless. It’s a small poor town, and the Ohio government cares more about corporations than citizens, that much was obvious when they started arresting reporters for doing their jobs. That it was preventable is heartbreaking and those responsible should be criminally charged imo.
I also read my news and read about the train/chemical spill yesterday.
The train environmental tragedy appears to not be a surprise to people paying attention to such things.
I was just listening to Neil deGrasse Tyson on audiobook. Is it likely we are the only form of life in the billions of galaxies in the universe? No. Is it likely aliens are going to be humanoid/have recognizably human designed machines? Also, probably no.
Look up the UFO sighting at O’Hare airport in 2006. A silent, metallic saucer-shaped object was sighted hovering over one of the gates for about five minutes by ground crew, pilots, and mechanics. It shot up into the sky and left a hole in the cloud layer. The government called it a “weather phenomenon.” For those who don’t know, O’Hare is close to Lake Michigan, one of the northern Great Lakes that also includes Lake Huron.
I think there could be some very pissed off meteorologists out there in a couple of days when they find out the Air Force has been taking pot shots at their balloons 😆
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Maybe after the Trump administration, Brexit, Corona and the war in ukraine ’tis the year where Aliens invade the earth. I wouldn´t be surprised!
Every major global power is almost certainly doing this to everyone all the time.
Well, I’ve got evangelicals in the family who have been declaring the End Times for awhile now.
This will give them more to worry about.
How do we spend billions in tax dollars every year for our military to make sure we’re safe and have all the latest and greatest gadgets then have this shit happen so frequently? I don’t get it
Capitalism.
While I know everyone has their opinions on aliens and conspiracy theories, I don’t think any of these objects are alien related. People who claim to have seen alien UFOs all describe aircrafts that moved preternaturally fast and in very odd ways that don’t match any human made aircrafts. None of these objects seem to match that criteria (that we know of). I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these objects are from North Korea too, China is their biggest ally. Russia’s another one of my hunches too. I think of that weird video taken by AirForce pilots (I think?) that came out a few years ago tracking some kind of object going ridiculously fast and everyone was like “Omg an alien object!” That doesn’t seem to be the case with whatever is going on here. It’s disconcerting for sure though.
I honestly think at this point the change is not in what is happening, but how we engage with it. We know that these balloons have been around for quite a while.
My take is that these are all Chinese spy vehicles. They’ve been doing it for years, we’ve let them-and now after that last one was spotted in Montana, the feds were backed into a corner and had to shoot it down. Now that everyone is aware it’s happening they have to be more pro-active.
This x 1000000!
The chinese government has been doing this for years. Our government never said a word, until actual civilians spotted 2 of the balloons and spoke up publicly and reported the sightings. The government had no choice other than to acknowledge the UFO’s. They shot down, what 2? They will not say anything besides they were shot down and that the second was very large but not as large as the 1st and the 2nd had a payload the size of a vehicle. So we are being diverted from the info on an imminent war of Taiwan by China, or China is flexing their muscles and trying to make the USA afraid of war. A war on the USA is ridiculous. But the USA owes China a ton of $ thanks to slow Joe. But China would falter without our trade industry. Our government is no longer transparent. We have no idea what is going on anymore
to be truthful we watch “ancient aliens” at home (with a grain of salt, but we’re open to the possibility that aliens out there either just exist or have visited in the past in some capacity), it’s just interesting to see this sort of stuff in the news when this show has been interviewing people and showing clips of UFO’s (from government video as well) like this for years now.
maybe there is something to it…
We may have been visited by aliens, but that show is terrible. Ancient aliens are a cop out. Graham Hancock has as much intellectual credibility as a q-anon theorist or a flat earther. It’s stitched together nonsense.
The whole ancient aliens “theory” is infuriating to archaeologists and to anyone with more than superficial knowledge of any of the ancient civilizations that he misrepresents. It stems from the refusal to believe that ancient non-western people could independently develop advanced concepts and technology. It’s not only historically ignorant but it feeds into white-supremacy because it’s rooted in the unconscious belief that those people couldn’t have done X without some more advanced outside influence.
@Rnot, totally agree with everything you said!!
I highly doubt that we are being visited by aliens. If anything, they are so highly developed that they watch us, via a far more superior satellite in orbit far enough away we won’t discover it in our lifetime or for generations to come.
Unsettling indeed
Surely the fighter jets have cameras or video recording . So they don’t have to rely on the pilots testimony or wait for the debris.
Especially in something as sophisticated as a fighter jet .
Show the public the footage . Show them the truth. Let them decide . Don’t just tell us we examined the wreckage and found it was a ….. !
Sorry the whole thing seems a little off .
I don’t think it’s aliens. Most likely surveillance objects.
This is less weird than it appears. My understanding is that US intelligence has been monitoring “unidentified arial phenomena”/UFOs for years & increasing understanding of the threats. After doing a threat assessment in 2021, a new office was established under the Department of Defense in 2022 to better coordinate intelligence on UFOs across multiple agencies. Sen. Gillibrand tweeted about helping pass that legislation & explaining why it mattered.
Funny enough, a friend of mine was in Myrtle Beach & saw them shoot down the balloon!
If we spent more on Human Services and less on military (Butter vs Guns) everyone would have a better quality of life, IMO.
How can US spend billions on military and not know what these are?
I bet we have plenty of our military pilots who have something to say but don’t.
Joking: Send in Tom Cruise. Maverick will know what to do.
The government knows exactly what they shot down and what the payloads were, however they are not sharing that with civilian american citizens. We will probably never know, until the paperwork is deemed safe for public consumption in 30-40 years from now and is released.
What bothers me in this story is the fact that the government is getting this info out to the public. They’ve always been so secretive of such matters. There was an article in the DM last month with photos of ufos from a US fighter jet in Iraq in 2016. Yesterday there was news that there was a ufo spotted close to Qingdao, China and they were planning to shoot it down. After all that’s gone down in recent years I wouldn’t be surprised if governments are going to try to ease this info on us as well. Pandemics, wars, earthquakes…aliens?
There’s something not right about this whole thing — details are being kept secret from the public, and the explanation the military is using is that the wreckage is too hard to get at or it’s in too many pieces to put together or it’s at the bottom of the ocean. Not one photo or video has been released which begs the question why? The fighter jets have sophisticated video equipment that would surely be used to try to identify what these objects are. Aside from the balloon, for being small, unmanned objects with no obvious means of propulsion, why the huge mystery?
Has anyone checked on Sammy Hagar??? :0 :0
Someone said that the cost of shooting down one of these things is $300,000. If that’s the price tag, then I do think that there is much more to this than we know. Kind of scary.
Well if it were some sort of high altitude electromagnetic pulse device then it could knock out power for nearly half of the United States, and maybe even for months while the specialty transformers get manufactured in the UK.
I hope it wasn’t that, but that would be a scenario very worth shooting down.
Something has recently changed either politically or strategically because this has been going on for years. Why is it being publicly acknowledged at this particular moment in time? What’s different now?
No more Trump administration? Beyond that, I’m unsure.
What’s different now is that a member of the public noticed the one over Montana (and then more civilians noticed them over their countries). And the political right here in the US (fueled by foreign bots) decided it was a tool to use to hurt the Biden administration. The s*** I saw posted on social media at the beginning was insane and QANON level conspiracy after conspiracy, but it didn’t matter that the reaction was obviously being manipulated, it snowballed and made its way onto mainstream media outlets. And then into the wider discourse.
In the aftermath, said Biden administration is now admitting publicly to more of these events to avoid criticism.
It’s not a “right wing conspiracy” to be concerned that China is blatantly spying on us and we’ve apparently been letting them do this for years.
I looked at all of the info and decided that Biden is sending someone a message. China? North Korea? Russia? Or possibly some rich countries like Saudia Arabia? I have no idea if the tweaks to the radar have just now made it possible for NORAD to see these things, but the US is letting people know that we’re not going to ignore them. This could get interesting to see who ends up responding–over something else not this.
Well the government has always claimed that what happened in Roswell in the 50’s was a weather ballon..sooo who knows. But ya all at once feels like it’s distracting from something they are actually doing
I think it was bored Yoopers playing pranks. Or bored someone, but trust me, people from northern Michigan/southern Canada get very creative in the winter. Trace this back and you’re gonna end up at Possum Lodge.
Never underestimate how much the government and army will keep private simply out of embarrassment.
Of course there are aliens. Silliness to think otherwise.
This may not be abnormal, or extremely abnormal. There could be a lot more up there on a regular basis than we think and we are just looking for them now.
Yeah. Small comfort.