Bella Ramsey on coming out nonbinary: ‘I didn’t want people to think I was trying to be trendy’


Bella Ramsey, of The Last of Us and Game of Thrones fame, came out as nonbinary in GQ UK a few months ago. At that point, there were changes with their pronouns, with the article first having they/them pronouns for Bella, but then later changing the pronouns to she/her with the explanation that Bella didn’t care which pronouns are used and “elected to use she/her for this interview.” In their latest interview with British Vogue, Bella talked more about their nonbinary identity and how they used to feel anxious about asking for the pronouns that feel most truthful to them.

On screen, Ramsey is filled with a compelling self-possession. But in real life, things haven’t been quite so easy. “Although I was confident on set, I was very shy everywhere else,” they say. That shyness made it hard for them to come out as nonbinary earlier this year, while doing publicity for The Last of Us. “I’ve fought that word for so long,” they say. “I didn’t want people to think I was just trying to be trendy. But it’s a very succinct way to describe to people who I am.”

A few months into publicly claiming a nonbinary identity, they’re still finding their feet. “I had a lot of anxiety around pronouns. When The Last of Us first came out, I was like, ‘Everyone just call me “she” because I look like a “she” to you, so it’s fine.’ But now I’m able to vocalise it more, being called ‘they’ is the most truthful thing for me. That’s who I am the most.”

I wonder aloud if going through adolescence in the public eye has put Ramsey under pressure to define their gender and sexuality before they felt ready. They agree, fervently. “You never fully know who you are, it’s ever evolving. But I certainly think that people have gathered that I’m not 100 per cent straight. I’m a little bit wavy, you know? That’s what I like to say.”

If Ramsey has been wavy, then the crew on The Last of Us have been staunch and sturdy in their support. “The costume supervisor would put several different undergarments in my room: a regular bra, a binder, a sports bra,” they explain. “She’d say, ‘You just pick whatever is most comfortable for you today,’ and in the end it was just a binder. There was never anyone pressuring me.” Ramsey also name-checks their co-star Pascal as a source of support, especially since his own sister is trans: “I always felt like he had my back; we take care of each other.”

[From British Vogue]

It makes me sad that Bella initially felt so anxious about asking for their pronouns that they were like “everyone just call me ‘she’, it’s fine.” They’re young and it’s hard to ask for your needs when you’re young, and I imagine that’s especially the case for something as vulnerable as this. As they said, it was also hard for them to ask because they “look like a she to [other people]” and probably also because they still go by a feminine name, complete with an “A” at the end and all. As for people thinking they’re being trendy — I’m sure some jerks might think that, but it’s really just that they’re being true to themselves and no longer conforming to others’ perception of them. And it’s lovely that Bella had so much support from the crew and Pedro (Zaddy) Pascal. I’m glad they had Bella’s back and showed that at least in that setting there was nothing to be anxious about.

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  1. Mei says:

    Love Bella. They seem so authentic and free now they are able to be who they are. And the friendship between them and Pedro also seems so authentic and not anyone taking advantage or being weird, maybe it’s cos they’re both just lovely people. Cannot wait for the next season of TLOU!!

  2. Scout says:

    I love Bella so much. They have so much talent and seem like a great person. And having the wonderful PP in their life to give them strength as a public figure.

    I’m also so happy reading that they didn’t want to be trendy…..Because when I was their age the concept of nonbinary was completely unknown.

    • Kitten says:

      IDK I’m 44 and I would never say that the concept of being nonbinary was “unknown” but rather we didn’t have the label or the language to describe it back then. Looking back on my art school years, I def knew tons of nonbinary people who probably felt so alone precisely because our collective lexicon didn’t really support the idea of gender fluidity.
      We’ve come a long way in that sense.

      • Zazzoo says:

        The 80s had glam that was very gender bending. The 90s grunge looks could be very gender neutral. Plenty followed those trends without feeling non binary, but it was possible to present as non binary before we had words for it. Obviously despite those fashions the eras were not wildly accepting of gender non conforming identities but the concept was slowly entering our consciousness.

      • Scout says:

        Ha! I’m from Texas and went to engineering classes instead of art classes….so I probably had a very different experience from you! : D

  3. Eowyn says:

    Having to worry about others judging the way you share and express your identity is awful. Good for them for finding their way.

  4. Zazzoo says:

    I love that we live in this time. I get the concern about it now being “trendy” and enabling accusations of “just a phase” but even on GoT as a young child Bella was clearly a unique individual, being their own true self. They’re an amazing role model.

  5. Kitten says:

    It’s totally understandable why they would have trouble speaking up for themselves especially in a male-dominated, intimidating industry like Hollywood. Frankly, if Bella didn’t have the raw talent to back it up, they would be chewed up and spit out.

    But I’m so happy for Bella. It feels like they’ve found a peace in finally embracing being binary and I get the feeling that they’re finding their community which is wonderful.

  6. FHMom says:

    It must be awful growing up in the public eye. I don’t know anything about Bella’s background,, but I hope they have some supportive family members

  7. SarahCS says:

    I’ll admit that the example of the choice of bra’s made me feel quite emotional. Contrast that with the headline I keep seeing (buzzfeed maybe?) about the make up person who knew they would be working with a black model and brought two light shades of foundation and it’s a stark reminder of what respect and valuing people looks like and how easy it can be to make that a reality.

    Bella seems to be navigating a lot of things in a very thoughtful manner and I wish them every success.

  8. tealily says:

    I didn’t watch Game of Thrones and only know them from The Last of Us, but between the show and the interviews, I have to say I’m a fan.

    • Sister Carrie says:

      Not only are they a phenomenal actor, but they got to play one of the very best roles on GoT, Lyanna Mormount.