Olivia Rodrigo on Taylor Swift: ‘I don’t have beef with anyone. I’m very chill’

Olivia Rodrigo covers the latest issue of Rolling Stone, all to promote her sophomore album, Guts (which is already out). I have no idea if Olivia has had media training in the past few years or whether she’s just preternaturally talented at dodging certain subjects while still leaving plenty of room for speculation. It’s an art form, really, and Olivia has been doing it in interview after interview this year. She doesn’t shut down questions about Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift or Joshua Bassett, but she’s able to deftly answer those questions, shift the conversation and still leave room for so much drama. Some highlights from Rolling Stone:

Katy Perry is mentoring Olivia: “The first time I met her,” Perry says, “I put my hands on her shoulders and was like, ‘Listen, I’m here. Whatever you need.’ Because I know exactly what these pop girlies are going through, and when I was growing up, no one really did that for me.”

Buying a place in Greenwich Village: “Living alone is very frightening. I always get scared someone’s going to come in and murder me, or a ghost is going to come and haunt me.” But she’s still bicoastal, renting a house in Beverly Hills, and hoping to buy a couple of neighborhoods over, in Los Feliz. “I go half and half. Do I feel like I could ever live full time in New York? I just love car culture. I listen to new music solely in the car. Nothing beats it.”

On Joshua Bassett & Sabrina Carpenter. “I mean, that’s a tricky one. I actually, genuinely did not read the article you’re talking about. But, yeah, all that stuff was really crazy. It’s all been handled privately. Handled isn’t the right word, but it’s just not something I like talking about publicly. I take all that stuff seriously, but it happens in privacy. I’m not going to put out a statement. That’s phony. We’re all just people at the end of the day. I deal with it on a person-to-person level that people on Twitter don’t see.”

The speculation about who is behind “Vampire”: “I find myself caring less and less. Behind the scenes, I do all of the things I am supposed to do and try to be as prepared as I can. People are going to say what they want to say. I feel like the more you try to control it, the more miserable you are, and the bigger it gets. I just write songs; it’s not my job to interpret them for other people.”

On all of the rumors about her falling out with Taylor Swift: When I ask Rodrigo about the alleged feud, she’s sipping on a bowl of Italian wedding soup. She goes quiet. “I don’t have beef with anyone,” she says calmly. “I’m very chill. I keep to myself. I have my four friends and my mom, and that’s really the only people I talk to, ever. There’s nothing to say.” She adds: “There’s so many Twitter conspiracy theories. I only look at alien-conspiracy theories.”

On all of the credits she had to add to Sour: “I was a little caught off guard. At the time it was very confusing, and I was green and bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. Is that the phrase?” It’s unclear if Rodrigo was forced to give the credits: “It’s not something that I was super involved in,” she admits. “It was more team-on-team. So, I wouldn’t be the best person to ask.”

[From Rolling Stone]

I just love her. No wonder Taylor Swift is so nervous about this one – Olivia is playing Taylor’s game better than Taylor. Like, I don’t have words for how much I love Olivia’s attitude and unwillingness to explain herself here, because Taylor Swift would have absolutely pulled out pie charts and a timeline and she would have roped in ten friends to swear up and down that so-and-so did her dirty. Olivia is like, sure, I write all of these bonkers blind-item songs but I’m just going to sit here and eat my soup while the drama rages around me, I am an ocean of calm. And Katy Perry is her mentor!!! THE Katy Perry, the same Snake Enemy #1??? Please, all of this is amazing.

Cover courtesy of Rolling Stone, additional photos courtesy of Cover Images.

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  1. anna says:

    “People are going to say what they want to say. I feel like the more you try to control it, the more miserable you are, and the bigger it gets. I just write songs; it’s not my job to interpret them for other people.”

    I LOVE THIS. I think trying to claim a definitive interpretation of a song or a piece of art takes away a little bit of the magic. Her decision to write blind item songs and chill with her soup is truly icon behaviour. Her recognition that caring too much about what other people think won’t lead to anywhere good is such a mature take, and I wish I had that revelation about life sooner.

    Side note, I completely dig Guts as an album. Some people claim it’s messiness is a sign of childishness, but there’s a self-awareness in what she writes and she doesn’t lack in sincerity. Also, when asked about the meaning of Guts as an album name as there is no song that shares that name, she said something along the lines of “being vulnerable takes guts” and left it at that. Personally, while I do enjoy Taylor’s music and lyricism, Olivia’s got her beat. I hope she’ll keep a good head on her shoulders and a good team in her corner.

  2. Genessa says:

    She has always been like that. Even in her bizaardvark (great show) days. I am living for her not allowing TS to write this public narrative.

  3. MaryContrary says:

    “Bad Idea Right?” just makes me laugh every time I hear it. I find a lot of her music to be a bit drama-teen girl overwrought, but my teen/young adult kids are big fans, so I can’t help but like her.

    • anna says:

      I recommend both “ballad of a homeschool girl” and “get him back”, they’re both so chaotic with their 2000s style pop-punk sound, it takes me back to being a messy teenager and I love it. Listening to it with the lyrics made me realize how hilarious she is.

  4. Macky says:

    I hate when song writers NEVER explain what they was actually thinking/meant. It’s too soon for her to say but eventually it would be nice. My take away is it makes sense she was talking about something else in that stanza. Didnt sound like an ex-boyfriend to me. Unless she was speaking about a pimp.

    • anna says:

      I was watching reactions to her album on YouTube, and based on the comments the consensus is that it’s a song about being groomed. Given how toxic the industry is and that Olivia was in two relationships with much older men, it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s what it was.

  5. Ameerah M says:

    The only that gives me pause is Katy Perry being her mentor – Katy is trash. And her career hasn’t been all that great in a long time. So on the longevity factor I don’t think she has much to offer. BUT. I’m sure this is driving Taylor and her stans crazy and for that reason alone…it pleases me. I also agree that Taylor is probably pulling a pillow apart somewhere because Olivia refuses to play her game. And by refusing to play – she’s won.

    • Mallory says:

      Agreed & Katy Perry will be clinging on these coattails while she sings her own praises.
      Is there really beef between O & TS or is she right- it’s manufactured drama from people pitting two successful women against each other for clicks.

    • sevenblue says:

      It is possible Katy Perry reached out to her after all the Taylor drama. Katy had drama publicly with Taylor herself. I am sure if she could go back, Katy would choose not to be the party of the public feud.

    • Sass says:

      Ameerah I agree with your Katy take.

  6. hangonamin says:

    something i’ve noticed with taylor AND olivia is they write these really personal songs that CLEARLY hint at someone that’s wronged them. they’re almost all narrative songs about past relationships…and they wonder why ppl try to dissect it and figure out who it’s about??? i mean come on! yes you “just write songs”, but you put out essentially a diss track with Vampire and you wonder why people ask you up and down who it is and speculate and fan the flames, and defer by saying “i’m tired of the drama and i’m not a drama person, i’m just a song writer”. speculation sells. hype sells. drama sells. name dropping katy perry fans that flame. let’s just call it what it is and dont paint yourself as undramatic.

    • anna says:

      Phew, okay. I’m in my feelings right now because having listened to her album, and seen the reactions, I’m feeling parasocial about this so forgive me — even though this isn’t directed at you or your comment specifically, I’m writing it here:

      Based off the lyrics, Vampire is about being taken advantage of as a young artist, with some interpreting the lyrics as a song about being in a relationship with a power imbalance or even going so far as to label it grooming. Given that Olivia was in a relationship with two much older men, none of the interpretations can be discounted. The point however, is that the song itself resonated with people that have been or found themselves to have been in similar positions.

      There’s next to no discussion about WHY these situations or feelings tend to be relatable, only about WHO it could be about, and that’s actually really sad. But that’s not on her.

      After all, even setting aside the lack of deeper discussion that could be happening, no one interrogates artists like Ed Sheeran or Bruno Mars or Justin Timberlake when they write about difficult relationships or heartbreak the way they do female artists. It’s just very misogynistic to me.

    • sevenblue says:

      @hangonamin, at the start of her career, Taylor was using her songs as puzzles for her fans to dissect. She was releasing promo videos, encouraging people to find whom her songs are about. She was going to talk shows, talking about writing songs about boys who broke her heart. That’s why even when Taylor stopped this kind of promotion, her fans and media continued to do it. Olivia never did this. She is writing her own songs about her experience. She never encouraged people to guess who the song is about. She is a songwriter and a very young person, of course she is gonna write about what she knows. That doesn’t mean that she has to tell everyone what they mean. She doesn’t owe anyone that.

      • hangonamin says:

        i disagree. i think we can agree to disagree tho. I think she may be a talented artist and songwriter. BUT i think she’s following the mold that Taylor’s done writing narrative songs that opens the discussion about who it’s about and generates buzz leading to more album sales. Taylor only started doing clues/easter eggs that bc she realized that would net her more fans and sales in her later albums. Olivia is allowed to write whatever she wants, not tell us who it’s about, but this is also part PR ploy to generate drama and not a whole “i’m an artist and just write songs”…I just think there’s 100% a PR angle to this to generate sales.

      • sevenblue says:

        “Taylor only started doing clues/easter eggs that bc she realized that would net her more fans and sales in her later albums.”

        That’s incorrect. I am guessing that you don’t remember Taylor’s earlier album promos. She was saying on promos to her fans to find whom the songs is about or just saying explicitly in interviews that she wrote the song about X because he was shitty to her. I remember all these interviews. That’s why I am saying Olivia is different. Of course, she got inspired writing her own songs from Taylor, but she doesn’t delve into her personal relationship with the song or name names. Maybe, because she saw what that kind of promotion does to a person’s (especially a woman’s) career.

        Anyway, like I said, people ask these questions to Taylor, because in the past, she answered them. Olivia never did. You can say she is writing personal songs for publicity, but I don’t know what else 17 year old or 20 year old can write about? She is writing about teenage experience: falling in love, heart break, body image insecurity. It is unfair to reduce her albums to drama or PR.

  7. KMAC says:

    🤣 She said Katy Perry is her basically her “mentor” 👏🏻👏🏻 Well played, Rodrigo, well played. We all know TS wrecked KP’s career. And Olivia doesn’t mention Taylor Swift by name, right? Man, I love TSwift but I am LOVING Olivia Rodrigo comin’ in hot 🔥 This young woman ain’t having it and she is here to stay 💜 If Taylor knows what’s good for her she’ll quit while she’s ahead (but we know she won’t).

  8. Snuffles says:

    I feel like Olivia has spent years studiously studying, assimilating, or straight up copying her favorite artists. That’s why she has to constantly give credit. And her team has packaged it in a very appealing way because her fans are her age and thus totally oblivious to all of it and probably don’t care one bit.

    She’s not original but it doesn’t matter. Although it’s hilarious that she’s also studied and is copying Taylor’s media games.

    • Leonelda says:

      Lol mmmkay Tay Tay

      • Bee (not THAT Bee) says:

        OMG if Snuffles turned out to be Taylor that would be hilarious! It’s completely unlikely but that would just be so funny. Not that we would ever know.

    • Sass says:

      All of Taylor’s stuff is derivative asf, she’s stolen from black artists and used black bodies as props. I could go on. But unlike Taylor I know when to stfu.

  9. Grace says:

    Olivia is a thoughtful, mature songwriter who already has so much respect in the industry, and for good reason listening to her first two albums.

    It sucks that Taylor Swift’s insecure ass and her crazy fans are so determined to bring her down but they won’t succeed.

  10. Lau says:

    Taylor Swift would have replied to that question so shadily so that the swifties would be losing their minds trying to figure who she’s talking about.

  11. AC says:

    @kaiser again thanks for this . I agree Olivia is calm and she doesn’t need to be paraded with all these people around her giving an impression I have a lot of friends so I’m a nice girl. Olivia just continues to do her work and writes songs. I think she said she wrote over 100 for Guts.
    My sister and I love her. My younger kids and my 21 year old niece loves her music too.
    I’ve watched her interviews even when Olivia broke out with Sour and she’s always been very well spoken. IMO she’s also very talented. Both her albums debuted number 1, and that’s amazing she did it at a young age with just 2 albums released. She’s also the youngest artist to have 3 number 1 singles. And her upcoming world tour is getting a lot of demand. Many fans are disappointed that there are no Latin America, Australia, and Asia tour dates yet. I think her team is so overwhelmed how popular Olivia is around the world. And yes , I’ve seen comments on SM how some of TS fans are just hating it. They know that Olivia can take that spotlight from TS any day now, and they see Olivia’s threat is very real. Which makes TS and some of her hardcore Swifties so petty, I don’t know why they can’t share the spotlight.

  12. Sass says:

    I love Olivia. God please don’t let fame ruin her, she is fantastic.