Remember when BBC Radio personality Danny Baker tweeted a photo comparing Prince Archie to a chimp? Remember when Boris Johnson’s sister wrote about then-Meghan Markle’s “exotic” DNA “thickening” the royal bloodline? Remember when the Duchess of Sussex was suicidal and begging the institution for mental health treatment? Remember when several royals had several conversations expressing their concerns over how dark Archie would be? What do all of those incidents have in common? During absolutely zero of those scandals, controversies or pleas for help did the Windsor clan offer public or private support to Prince Harry or Meghan. At no point did they treat Meghan with care, empathy, concern or love. Instead, they told her to suck it up, stop whining, stop talking about race, stop expecting anyone to help. Now that King Charles and the Princess of Wales have been curiously outed as royal racists, suddenly those salty folks are now demanding that Harry and Meghan speak up in their defense. How the white supremacist worm turns.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have been urged to speak out in defence of the King and Princess of Wales, as leading public figures rallied to support them against accusations of racism.
Prince Harry and Meghan have so far remained silent after the pair were named as the royals alleged to have made remarks about their unborn child’s skin colour.
The identities first emerged this week in the Dutch translation of a new royal book, Endgame, by Omid Scobie, before being reported by news organisations worldwide including, on Friday morning, the BBC.
Buckingham Palace maintains that “all options” are still open for their own response, as the King flies home from the Cop28 climate summit in Dubai and into discussions about how to deal with the row.
However, a source close to the family urged the Sussexes to speak out and defend their relatives.
They told The Telegraph: “For the couple that talked about ‘death by a thousand no comments’, the silence at this point is deafening.”
Another pointedly described the decision not to respond to the claims as “interesting”, given the Sussexes made repeated complaints about being left undefended against negative press stories themselves while at the palace. Sources close to the Sussexes have previously emphasised that the Duke and Duchess have not said that either the comments or those who made them were “racist”.
If I’m being honest, I wish Meghan would speak out, not in defense of Charles or Kate, but simply to clarify who said what. Enough with the mystery – let’s have it all out there on the record, in her own words. I know she is unlikely to do that now or anytime soon, but I hope at some point we get that. As for the present Windsor crisis… this might be the biggest FAFO I’ve seen in years. Are they really expecting Meghan to come out and say “on second thought, being concerned about how dark my babies’ skin would be wasn’t racist at all, you guys!” Again, think of all the mental gymnastics taking place – as Omid Scobie and Piers Morgan have made clear, all of Fleet Street has known for years who said and did racist sh-t to Meghan, and they know because their palace sources have been spilling their guts for years. Meghan has never backed down from what she said in the Oprah interview, and she named the racists in her letters to Charles. Why all of this performative bullsh-t?
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- Prince Harry, The Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex arrive to watch the swimming finals at the Merkur Spiel-Arena during the Invictus Games in Düsseldorf, Germany. Featuring: Meghan, Duchess of Sussex Where: Dusseldorf, Germany When: 13 Sep 2023 Credit: PA Images/INSTARimages **NORTH AMERICA RIGHTS ONLY**
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I believe “ Never complain Never explain” is the only correct response here! 🤣
Too funny! So true.
And best delivered while wearing bare legs and dark nail polish!
Exotic DNA….she probably meant Maltese. Like when meghan told US Elle magazine she was Maltese.
ummmm… her gg grandmother was born there. so idk what you are trying to say, Aurelia.
😂😂😂😂😂
As usual the royal white supremacists want the abused by them black lady to come to their defense and save them so that they can continue to be the racists we all know and detest. Sure sure
That sounds familiar. Shades of Ngozi Fulani, another victim who “misunderstood” that racism was merely “curiosity”.
Meanwhile, Willnot hasn’t given a statement in support of his wife and father, but Harry and Meghan should? Hahahahahahahahaaaaa!
Don’t hold your breath. Or maybe do, that would solve many problems.
Silence is the best response
What can Meghan say that would be more damaging than these fools tripping all over themselves? Silence is the only response.
Yes! Silence is often the best answer. But I would love to see a picture of M & H giving each other a high five in response!
I’m waiting for them to respond to some palace denial with “recollections may vary”’.
Asking Harry & Meghan to defend any member of that notoriously racist clan is like asking a sexual assault survivor to defend her abuser.
@Lara YES, exactly. Meghan doesn’t owe them a damn thing.
@Lara, what a perfect analogy.
My thoughts as well. Funny how the media change the tune when it suits them.
Meghan won’t repond.
She already gave a strongly worded statement in April 2023, when asked by the press, after the ‘supposed content’ of her 2021 private letter to Charles was leaked to The Telegraph by Charles or people in his court on his behalf, and was spread by other media and Royal correspondents who falsely accused her of leaking the letter.
My strong believe is that the leaked content might have been Charles’ doctered version of her letter’s content – i.e. swabbing the names of the actual named Royal racist. I say that, given Meg’s angry replay to the leaking two year later.
I think she was angry because Charles used the letter’s ‘content’ he gave to TT to safe face after she snubbed his ConAnation, to make it look like he and Meghan were cool again, and that the ‘baby’s skin colour issue’ was resolved, but in fact it was not.
This is what Meghan’s spokesperson’s press statement from April 2023 said:
“The Duchess is Sussex is going about her life in the present, not thinking about correspondance from two years ago related to conversations from four years ago. Any suggestions otherwise is false and frankly ridiculous. We encourage tabloid media and various total correspondents to stop the exhausting circus that they alone are creating.”
And we also have to remember that her lawyers sent legal letters to Valentine Low and Emily Andrews, for Tweeting and telling lies about her leaking her own letter to Charles to the press. Low apologised in a Tweet and shut up, I don’t know if Andrews openly did too.
Still, in the last few days, the grazy UK tabloids and media are blaiming Meghan for leaking the letter, instead of Charles and his court, who in fact didn’t learn a thing from the other Palace that leaked her private letter to het father to that another UK tabloid, The Fail, who she took to court and won the lawsuit from, twice.
And now the idiots are bagging her and Harry to speak out for that racist family. Nah, not happening. I think that Meghan is done with this royal racist BS and I believe, also with this whole royalty and being royal thing. I think she’s holding on it for Harry and the kids’ sake. I would deff. be done with a family and institutions like this myself.
In Meg’ Statement:
*… Dutches of Sussex*
I’m not as nice as Meghan & Harry so I would be releasing the following statement…
‘While we would love to accommodate recent requests for further comment regarding racist remarks and concerns directed toward our, then unborn, son; we are afraid we cannot because, unfortunately, recollections may vary’.
@jojo Brilliant suggestion!! Now can you write a statement for Kate? Be sure to include ‘keen’ and ‘early years’ and toss in ‘listening and learning’ for good measure.
@Jojo, love. I’ve been rewatching the H&M doc on Netflix. With all the nonsense going on, episode 4 is absolutely worthy of a rewatch. It doesn’t have anything to do with names. The BM/BRF system. That the episode ends with the You Don’t Own Me song is perfection.
The statement put out by Meghan/Sussexes last April when the palaces leaked the letters, was damn good.
Piers needs to be called to account as why he named names. He cannot stand Meghan and has been ranting about her for 7 years. Where was Kate when false accusations about Meghan were left in the media. Kate sat back and said nothing. And the nerve of Carole sending out uncle Gary to the media. Charles is so bad at being a parent. Heir or no heir William should not have been allowed to run rampant. Any statements about this episode need to be sent by both harry and Meghan. And they should not apologize they are owed apologies.
When uncle Gary comes out and says Kate isn’t racist because her mother grew up in an area with a lot of South Asian people, you know they are scared.
Kate chose a racist painting for her home and left it there for the Obama’s. Art history expert chose a racist painting from hundreds of historical options from the royal collection. That’s who she is.
So many examples of kate being racist and piers saying it out loud has freaked her out.
Willy’s just as racist and the conversations that he had with Harry were probably worse. But there is more photographic evidence of Kate picking out racist art and shrinking back from black people to be used against her. Now I’m starting to suspect that Murdoch is helping Willy with his divorce rollout by painting Kate as someone who is not fit to be the Queen of the Commonwealth. Pranking Scobie at the same time was just for laughs. This coordinated callout for the Sussexes to defend the crown is just distraction. Notice that we aren’t seeing coordinated headlines about William’s fury that Kate was named?
I 100% think that William said racist stuff too and he’s the one I think Harry refers to in the Oprah interview, but piers didn’t name him because William is the one who has to be protected at all costs. Kate is expendable hence the panic.
No. Willy does not have to be protected at all costs. If the monarchy is abolished both he and Britain will go on.
And something there makes my stomach turn. He’s a grown man who might have job #1 or he might be a non-working billionaire. In that framing, the very small children in the situation should be the ones protected at all costs.
Harper, I think you are so right. I think W is in a tricky place because he also said the racist things while trying to convince Harry not to marry Meghan but he now needs to pin it all on Kate so he can separate/divorce. It’ll be tricky to blame her without getting smeared himself, but the entire palace system will be working with him to protect him.
@B – it’s rather naïve to assume the monarchy is going to be abolished and that the heir to the throne and the country will “go down” any time soon. William IS being protected by the tabloids, remember he was quietly paid around ₤1 million in 2020 by Rupert Murdoch’s Sun and News of the World to settle a phone-hacking claim. If this had been Harry, they would have gone to trial and splashed it all over the tabloids. This is how the “secret agreement” between the BRF and tabloids works. What they know would blow our minds collectively. Of course William commented on Archie’s skin colour, but it’s Kate who is being thrown under the bus in order to protect the heir, and apparently he’s willing to throw Charles under the same bus. I live for the day when all is revealed.
The British royals have a less than stellar racist history everywhere you look. Kate has been showing her racist behavior through the years. Believe her and her actions
Face it. Piers could have named any two (Windsors) and he wouldn’t have been wrong.. They are ALL racists.
“ Face it. Piers could have named any two (Windsors) and he wouldn’t have been wrong.. They are ALL racists.”
OMG, Renae, you win the Internet today. 👏 👏 👏
Spot on, @Renae! That’s why all of them were terrified of the Operah interview, the docu-serirs and Spare. They know they’ve all said racist things and they’ve all done shitty things towards H&M.
I think @Harper and @Jaded are right. This is deliberately done by Murdoch to protect and help Willnot. Kate is the new scape goat and it’s clear that Willnot is done with her. In addition, the campaign to skip Chuck for Willnot has been regularly dripped in the tabloids. Not to a great extent, but enough to plant the idea among the “pesants”. Both Murdoch and the torys prefere their string puppet over Chuck the environmentalist.
Correct, Renae.
As far as I’m concerned, majority of the BRF members had thought of/discussed H&M children’s potential skin color. It’s just a few more closer to Harry had mentioned the “concerns” to his face.
They’re racists, worse, entitled racists.
@ Tessa, yes, WHY isn’t Pier’s ASS in a sling. He is the one who published the names of the Royal Racists.
Camzilla via The Palace sent Piers out there on a mission. Notice before he revealed the names at the last second he spent 3:00 full minutes ranting about how it was a lie and they aren’t racist – you had to hear all that before you got to the names. It was a last ditch effort to control the narrative just a bit and give Rupert Murdoch’s Talk TV and extra 7 million views.
The Dutch translation only names Charles, correct? It’s
my understanding Piers is the only source naming Kate on record. It seems like they keep getting lumped together in the news stories I’ve seen, suggesting BOTH names came from the book.
Shouldn’t Piers be held accountable for throwing Kate into it all, not Scoobie?
This reads like one of those Kate stans on TRF, saying it only stated ‘Princess of Wales’ so it must mean Camilla. Except it also apparently states ‘sister in law’ so nope, Kate was named.
AFAIK we also don’t call omid “scoobie” round here. It’d be nice if PM was called out but pretty sure he’s supported by RF.
Wasn’t the advice to H&M to suck it up, that they ALL go through these things? Suck it up, Charles and Kate. There’s no need for H&M to tell what is said. One of the RR’s will break eventually like PM and tell all.
Charles told his darling boy not to say anything to counter lies in the media
I feel sad for Harry and Meghan that this is all being brought up again. They’ve moved forward and our focusing on upcoming Invictus and upcoming projects. This stale rehashing from Omid just makes everybody go backwards. I truly wish they had an IG page so that anybody that wants to talk about them could go to their IG page and get information about what they’re currently doing.
I like to think they’re in a far better place and noting this development but not bogged down by it. The royal family, the tabloids and the gossip sites, like this one, can get into the weeds and really make a meal out of all this. But I hope Meghan and Harry are happily occupied and giving these stories little attention. It’s not their mess anymore
What exactly do you mean by “I feel sad for Harry and Meghan that this is all being brought up again. They’ve moved forward and [are] focusing on upcoming Invictus and upcoming projects. This stale rehashing from Omid just makes everybody go backwards.” is this troll concern/sympathy? What has Omid’s book has to do with upcoming IG or even with Harry and Meghan? So, Harry and Meghan who are the victims should be very sad because their abusers were outed in a book? Should the victims feel a certain type of way because Omid wrote about the racism they were subjected to? Sorry, I’m just confused by what you wrote and I’m just trying to get some clarity here. How is Omid’s book “stale rehearsing” and how exactly does Omid’s book make the Sussexes move backwards? I am totally confused!!!
You’re always posting these faux concern and doomsday-type comments about Harry and Meghan. It’s very bizarre.
Meghan and Harry are probably laughing into their margaritas watching all this explode without them having to do/say anything. This new iteration of the royal family can’t seem to do anything right and has become a gong show of missteps, lies, finger-pointing and back-stabbing — they seem perfectly capable of humiliating themselves publicly without a word from the Sussexes, whose lack of response speaks volumes.
To Taytanish and beach dreams
I did not take Sarah nguyen’s post as concern trolling or confusing. The book has nothing to do with Invictus of course. I read the post as sympathy for H&M that the tabloids are always trying to drag them back into controversy, this time by demanding they apologize for the racist label on Charles and Kate.
@Sarah Nguyen, what do you mean? Is that meant to be a side eye at Harry and Megan, because, EPIC FAIL. They are happy, healthy and have no need to do or explain anything to help the the Royal racists maybe the Palace are the ones you should feel sorry for. Harry is to busy with the his job and his next invictus games to give a stuff about what his dogsht rather and psycho brother want.
Sarah Nguyen – here’s some news https://www.piquenewsmagazine.com/local-news/on-heels-of-prince-harrys-visit-invictus-games-inks-partnership-with-whistler-blackcomb-7906172
@ Jaded, yes. I think about schadenfreude … what about schadenfreude 😍? I love that word. And I hope that H&M are laughing wholeheartedly at That Family’s misery, but maybe they’re above that. I, on the other hand, am not. I love this for the left behinds–long may they suffer 🥰🔥🔥🔥🤗.
This is what “if you dig a ditch, bitch, you might as well dig two” looks like, and it’s biting Kkkate, Willnot, and nearly all the rest of them in the ass. How lovely 🥳🥳🥳.
What nerve! The Windsors deserve no help from H & M. Let them live with the consequences of their own vile behavior.
I do not want Meghan to touch this with a thousand foot pole! If one of them “should” speak out, it should be Harry, NOT Meghan.
Technically since this is already “so well known” among the BM, the BRF, courtiers, and friends…why not have THEM speak out instead?
Yes harry should. His wife is being blamed by some in media and the articles are so offensive. Yes if anyone says something it should be harry
Neither H nor M should say a single word on this matter. They hv nothing to do wth this bk. They hv nothing to do wth those people over there.
M already had her say when chucky’s people leaked their correspondence at the time of the CONanation: “The Duchess of Sussex is living her life in the present and is not concerning herself with letters written 2 years ago about matters that occurred 4 yrs ago.”
Boom!
I absolutely disagree with you Tessa. Neither Harry nor Meghan should say one single thing about this. People like you need to stop this ridiculousness of crying for the Sussexes to speak up anytime and every time the Firm puts its media (not so) invisible contract on full blast. That Meghan is once again being blamed for something with which she is innocent, is nothing new: remember “Meghan made Kate Cry?” Were you then demanding that William speak up? The British royal family has treated Harry and Meghan abominably. So let them stew in their own filthy juices. Also, I find it quite interesting that you seem worried about Meghan being blamed for the leak, and not concerned about Kate being exposed as a racist. Just saying.
Harry’s wife is only being blamed by the hystrionic NICHE media in the UK.
The global media that counts is not blaming her, nor are they wringing their hands about damage to the BRF, which has had since March of 2021 to hire that diversity czar (LOL) and clean up their act but chose not to.
Please don’t be ridiculous. Neither Meghan or Harry need to do anything about this mess. Concern trolling much?
@ML – 100% agree – Meghan should not be expected to address any of this for anyone, unless she herself decides if she ever wants to say something, on her own terms. The UK royals made the mess, the UK royals can clean it up.
No fckuing way, the Sussexes should stay entirely out of this mess, its not their responsibility to save the white Windsors from their own stupidity. How many times have we heard about how Harry and Meghan need to shut up and stop talking? Now suddenly the same people that wanted the Sussexes to shut up, all of a sudden are the same people urging the Sussexes to talk? Is this a freakin’ joke? “Harry should be the one to say something if at all:…..? No way, Harry should say absolutely NOTHING. Haven’t the RF minions been bleating about how the Sussexes should stop saying anything with anything BRF in it? No way, the Sussexes should NEVER explain and NEVER complain on behalf of those racist maggots Charles and KKKHate. Have the racists ever said anything publicly or otherwise to defend the Sussexes? The Meghan made KKKHate cry story they left in the public domain, Meghan is duchess difficult, Meghan is a bully, etc, list is way too long; did any one single Windsor ever defend the Sussexes? Didn’t every one of them just be smug about the Sussexes’ suffering? Everyone including that ugly dark souled woman Sofiesta? Why didn’t we hear any type of clap back when that rapist, drug lord criminal Gary, KKKHate’s uncle, publicly bash the Sussexes numerous times on national TV? Please, the Sussexes need to just sit back, grab popcorn and just enjoy every single bit as it all as it unravels.
100% Taytanish, to everything you said. The absolute shamelessness of anyone on that Salty Isle begging for Harry and Meghan to come to their rescue is wild. In addition to everything you listed that Meghan has suffered through, I’d add the violent and racist screed by Camilla’s BFF Clarkson, and all of the literal death threats the Sussexes have received. And not. one. single. WORD from that shit-dad, the queen, or The Other Brother. EVER.
It’s mind-boggling and hilarious that the royal family and their media minions are now crying and begging for Harry and Meghan to speak up on their behalf. Their ever-escalating levels of delusion never fail to amaze and amuse.
I love the use of “curiously” by Kaiser. Heh.
Curiously, NO ONE is denying it. LOL
H&M said what they had to say; no need for anything more. The RF has spent years making it clear that they don’t want or need H&M. H&M solved their problem by leaving – now the RF can figure out their own problems by themselves.
“Buckingham Palace maintains that “all options” are still open for their own response…”
Options for what? Legal action? PLEASE do so, we would LOVE to see what else comes out in discovery.
“Another pointedly described the decision not to respond to the claims as “interesting”, given the Sussexes made repeated complaints about being left undefended against negative press stories themselves while at the palace.”
YES. That’s right. They ALMOST have it. They’re SO CLOSE to figuring it out. Now, eff orf. The Sussexes don’t owe them a single thing, especially any kind of defense.
Lol right? “You’ve made so many complaints about how much it sucks to not be defended in the press when you were being pilloried, which we never did and have not done to this day, I really don’t understand why you won’t defend us?!!” This is why they are always on the losing side, they can never look beyond the bubble of what is most beneficial to them. So they don’t realize how this stuff looks to normal people and they don’t realize how hypocritical it is to most people.
Please excuse my French, but whom the Hell are they going to sue? The Rupert Murdoch owned publishing house? Really? After Rupert dropped a million pounds in William’s bank account? Don’t you thing it would look ridiculous for them to sue Omid Scobie but not Murdoch? Some Squaddies have been upset at Scobie for his choice of a publisher, and I don’t blame them. But I’m beginning to think that this was a genius move by Omid.
Karma hasn’t even gotten close to what the RF deserve.. King Charles would do well to remember what happened to Marie Antoinnette.. riding around in gold fucking carriages with his side piece …
Well, now they’re stewing in their own juice (or to put it politely, they are suffering the consequences of their actions), and they don’t like it. A touch of poetic justice.
Kate is panicking here. There is Tominey writing nonsense about Meghan not introducing Doria to W and K and then uncle Gary writing crap and the wedding non invite story.
These all scream the kinds of things that a pathetic woman desperate for social acceptance would use to try to lash out for being exposed as a racist.
It’s been proven that #camillatomineyisaliar is stupid but to see her fool like this just to defend racist kate was something else . Kate is racist and there is no sugar words from her sycophants can change that . They are just making her look bad by the nonsense they write.
Why in the world would M introduce Doria to W&K when they were so hostile to her? I wouldn’t want my mother to meet people like that either.
We can see that Meghan was protecting Doria from these racists as much as she could. She wasn’t wrong. Doria didn’t need to hear insulting comments from those two.
At this point, I’m thinking if we knew exactly what Kate said, it would be very bad. Worse than Charles. That’s why she’s panicking and getting her media friends to shore up support.
I agree. Besides Charles wrote to Meghan about it and Kate has said nothing. Even if Charles said something about Archie, it probably had more nuance to it hence Meghan responding to his letter.
Kate is in panic mode briefing her friendly rota peeps.
Kate is definitely panicking. It was always going to be worse for a younger member of the royal family to have to made the comment, and we’re seeing that play out. Kate wouldn’t be scrambling like this if she wasn’t worried.
I said last week that i wonder if Charles made a racist comment (like the story that has been previously reported about “wonder how dark their complexions will be” or “will the baby have an Afro”) but KATE was the one who specifically had “concerns.” A comment like that from Charles is still racist but H&M could maybe excuse him bc he’s older, there wasn’t ill intent, etc. but Kate having “concerns” would be a different thing altogether.
Also having concerns about your niece or nephew plays different than a grandfather wondering about his grandchild. It is racist in both cases, but it’s a lot weirder to have concerns about a baby that isn’t your direct descendant.
Kkkhate’s main “concerns” were probably about her kids. She clearly didn’t want her children to interact with their unacceptably dark cousins. She feels that somehow that would diminish her own children. And White Jesus forbid that the cousins be photographed together. It would be a disaster if the Sussex children were thought to be cuter or more photogenic than hers.
What a shallow, racist POS she is! Good job, Carole.
Kate having “concerns” about children who are not even biologically related to her? Actually it’s odious that anyone would think like that. And regardless of any familial relationship Archie and Lilibet and their looks are none of her business.
And as much as I dislike mean comments about children I will just say that Louis is the only one of her children with conventional good looks.
It must kill her that Lili is the only grandchild with blue eyes, and not just blue, but Diana’s blindingly beautiful shade.
@Beverley yes, she didn’t want her children to have to be photographed for the rest of their lives with nonwhite cousins.
I have said that I thought William was the one who made the comments to Harry and I’ve also said that he was the one pushing for the Sussex children to not have HRH; because he wouldn’t want them on the same level as his children. But it completely fits for Kate too. She wouldn’t want her kids to have to share anything with their nonwhite cousins, including HRH, the balcony, the carriage rides, etc. all of that was for HER children as the pure white royals.
I said the other day that white women have long been the gatekeepers of white supremacy. WW are the ones trying to keep neighborhoods all white, schools all white, etc. and we are seeing that play out here on a much higher and more public level.
None of this is to say that William isn’t racist too and I’m sure he had plenty of comments. But we’ve seen Kate’s racism play out publicly in a way we don’t see from other royals, from the painting to recoiling from black people etc. I can only imagine what she’s like behind closed doors.
White women also don’t get called out for racism as quickly as others, so kate can be more publicly racist, as we have seen, and still no one calls her out on it.
Becks1, your analysis is spot-on. WW are indeed the gatekeepers of white supremacy.
Think of those white mothers hissing and screaming at Black children desegregating schools. Toni Morrison put it beautifully in this clip: https://twitter.com/Dr_S_Jefferson/status/1433612217480581121
Kate is a horrible racist and it takes absolute gall — and pure white entitlement — to suggest that Meghan defend her.
Yes, just like Charles supported them when they were bullied by idiots in the media like you 😂😂😂😂😂. Besides only abusers will want the victims to defend them when their actions are made public . The world has seen how racist they are and there is nothing they can do about it
Well really, Meghan already spoke out in defense of Kate during the Oprah interview, when she called her a “good person”. Now, whether that came from Meg being her generous and compassionate self and feeling genuine sympathy for whatever she believed Kate was going through (just being married to William could be enough to evoke some pity from someone as kind as Meghan), or if it was a some sort of shady “bless your heart” type sentiment, I can’t say. But wherever that remark came from, it was far more than Kate deserved.
I think it was “bless your heat” type sentiment.
Saw Meghan doing an interview, and she can do a Southern Accent well.
She also said they called Kate, waity Kate and that was not nice, but she used it for comparison, saying it was not the same as racism, just maybe she was saying who the racist was.
This is part of what confuses me about Kate and Charles being the Royal racists. Meghan referred to Kate as “a good person.” Would she have done that if Kate had said this? And Meghan wrote a letter to Charles naming the racists. Would she have written this to Charles if he was one of them. I don’t know that we’ve got the right two, yet.
My money is on William and Camilla.
#Mariana , it can be that she was writing how she felt his concerns were racist and for him to do better. Saying kate is a good person doesn’t mean she wasn’t racist , I think she just threw her a bone ( which she didn’t deserve) , we saw how mean kate has behaved in public with meghan But that doesn’t mean william and mistress ain’t guilty either.
Kate does not have a clear conscience. Sending out Uncle Gary is a proof of that. Now I totally agree that William and possibly Camila are mentioned in the letter too.
As a biracial woman, Meghan knew she couldn’t say anything other than “Kate is a good person.” To say otherwise would have heaped nuclear level abuse down upon her. I think those words were meant similar “bless your heart” and for the viewer to draw their own conclusion based on what we knew of Kate’s behavior.
@Mariana: Meghan knew that if she said anything critical about Kate she would have been attacked. That’s why she said that Kate was a good person. It was a defence mechanism and said for self preservation. Heck Meghan said that Kate was a nice person and that she apologized and the press and Palace still attacked her.
Meghan corrected the crying lie and magnanimously called Kate a good person. And yet still the BM writes that Meghan ATTACKED Kate in that interview. She did not. But imagine if she actually had. The pitchforks would be more than sharpened.
YES! I totally agree.
I think Charles ist the typical old rich and white habitualy racist of his generation.
Compared to other he was progressiv in the seventies and eighties (first to visite a mosque, a scandal at that time, saying non christian religions are part of Britain etc.) and hasn’t moved on, like many of his Generation.
My father is the same age and often baffeld when I tell him someting isn’t ok by todays standards and I have to explain why.
Times change and maybe Meghan belived Charles racism was more the unconcious bias of his generation and less the open despisal of POC Kate has shown.
Meghan isn’t the type of person to take someone down publicly, and in this instance she likely DID feel sorry for what Kate was going through (clearly the Rose issue). She seems to be able to compartmentalize her feelings — on the one hand she realized Kate disliked her but on the other, she knew Kate was struggling with a painful situation so she cut her some slack.
It may well be the case that Kate is not the racist culprit; but please do not take Meghan’s statement about Kate, as proof to that effect. I think the statement only says one thing: it is that Meghan is a very kind-hearted person for giving Kate grace under circumstance where Kate certainly did not deserve any. Remember that in the Oprah interview, Meghan spoke longer, and first, about the Meghan made Kate cry character assignation, and not about the skin color issue. I think, that issue (cry-gate), proved Kate to be a real awful person.
Meghan said the “good person” comment to show that the intent of the Oprah interview wasn’t a malicious hit piece or an attack on the family ((mafia) like the media and the firm claimed. They were trying to explain why they left and how they were treated badly, especially by the media. That’s why Meghan gave Kate that lukewarm compliment. Of course the Never-Wrong Klan couldn’t take the bone the Sussexes threw them but instead decided to dig in further. So here we are.
What’s odd to me is, regardless of the reason why, Meghan said it. So why isn’t that being focused on for Kate’s defense? That’s what I’d do. It’s a much more significant point than, Kate can’t be racist because of where her mother grew up. Meghan is hardly likely to respond, oh, I didn’t really mean it, especially since she’s also on record saying she’s not thinking about a letter she wrote two years ago, about something that happened four years ago.
Maybe bc they don’t want people to actually remember that Meghan said Kate is a good person. Bc that makes Meghan look good and shows that she didn’t actually attack Kate in the Oprah interview as they love to repeat over and over. The actually evidence does not support the claim that Meghan attacked Kate. But they want to keep Kate the victim and Meghan the aggressor.
@Jais – that’s a good point. Though – by now, the idea that Meghan was attacking Kate in the interview is already firmly established for the people that want to believe it. Meghan mentioning a “royal racist” but yet saying in the same interview that Kate was a good person, is a fact. Experience shows the groups that have a vested interest in hating Meghan are capable of believing her in this instance (“even Meghan had to admit Kate was a good person”) while also continuing to believe it’s Meghan who’s the real problem. The media and other interested players would make sure of that.
Jais, you are right. They want to maintain the facade of Kate the perpetual victim, by making people believe that Meghan attached Kate during that interview. Several really dishonest articles did just that immediately following the interview. Remember, nothing is real about Kate. Her delicate English rose image is a figment of royalist imagination, and even the tiniest crack in the fakery cannot be abide.
I’m also confused as Meghan called Kate a “good person” on Oprah. I think she meant it as the goal was to send a message of honesty to the world while letting the BRF know that they have evidence of everything that happened (e.g. the card Kate sent, texts, emails etc…).
Plus, Meghan called Charles “charming” on Netflix. That makes me wonder if PM purposefully said two wrong names in the hopes that H&M or even Scobie would say the truth. In that position they “can’t win” : either they say nothing and the RR pretend it’s their fault or they talk to tell the truth and they do what they said they wouldn’t do.
What do you think ?
RR’s: It’s the Sussex’s fault.
H&M: SSDD.
They/her have been accused from day one and the RR’s will probably still be playing this game when Meghan’s a grandma.
As Serena Williams said, ‘Meghan is too nice.’
And also what Midnight and Amy Bee wrote.
Serena may very well be right, but I also think that some people here are using the “nice “ statement made by Meghan (and context matters a great deal here) but they’re being deliberately obtuse and using that statement to give Kate a blanket get out of jail free card. These people overlook everything else Meghan says but they always remember that phrase. I’ll answer them once and for all, yes Kate CAN be racist.
M&H should devote the amount of time to speaking out in defense of the BRF that the BRF spent speaking out in defense of M&H.
LOL
ZERO.
Exactly. Keep moving forward and let them work it out amongst themselves.
Chucky the turd, didn’t look confident at the summit, his suit looked rumpled, what is going with his ill fitting suits nowadays.
Al Gore poke the British Government environmental policies, saying Chucky gave a great speech, but in essence it meant nothing.
Charles always gives a great speech which means ZERO.
Well the only plus for charles in giving a great speech signifying zero is that it will make wills useless speeches and even more pathetic efforts look like the continuation of a long family tradition…
Charles can be awkward.like the time he grimaced when.he admitted adultery
The big question for KM is will she even be attending said wedding as FK’s plus one? I seem to remember the Fails society column noting that the Royal Ingenue had given up attending the weddings of FK’s friends a few years back. They seemed to think him going solo was significant??
Shocking but not surprising that, once again, H&M are expected to step up for royals higher in the hierarchy when the whole royal machinery failed them so totally. Notice we’re not even talking about if these conversations about Archie’s skin tone ever happened. We’ve seamlessly moved to who said them. And, yet, the Sussexes, especially Meghan, are expected to cover for the royal racists. I have no idea what happened with that Dutch edition of Endgame, but, boy, am I glad it went totally off the rails.
I don’t think Harry should speak out for Charles, since Charles never spoke up about the “Harry Hewitt” rumors. Even though Harry and Charles have the same damn face with the same close set eyes that can only come from the Windsor side of the family.
Fake babies? Not a peep. And yet Harry and Meghan have a duty to deny a true statement someone else wrote? Oh please.
Royals have an official policy: no comment on rumors of family spats where one royal is pitted against another in the press. So there you have it.
I think their spokesperson should say they never comment on tab stories about other members of the family. That would just be the icing..
I hope the Sussexes’ continue to maintain a dignified silence. The BM has spent years harassing and abusing them and telling them to shut up as the abuse ramped up while the Rotten Family maintained a never complain never explain facade as they repeatedly fed them to the wolves. Surely other members of that family are chomping at the bit to defend the royal racists and extol their virtues. Let them eat cake and let both palaces continue to panic bc the BM will continue to feast on this fiasco.
The audacity of the press to ask Harry and Meghan to speak out about this after years of saying that they needed to shut up. Well Harry and Meghan are shutting up and I hope it stays like this. This is the Royal Family’s mess and they should be the ones to get themselves out of it. Plus everytime Harry and Meghan have spoken out the Palace and press has accused them of lying so why would they be believed if they spoke out now? Silence is golden and this is Karma for all the times the Palace refused to speak out in defense of Harry and Meghan.
This is the exact same playbook as Ngozi Furlani, where they basically forced Ngozi to appear in a photo with Susan Hussey to quiet the racism.
In the world of the RF, it’s the accuser’s responsibility to make the racist feel better and absolve them of their “mistake”.
Okay so I wonder, tin foil tiara style, if the press is begging for this “defense” from H&M because they know the racists are not Chuck and Katie. Or at least not both of them. And they want the Sussexes to clarify.
Like, I think William definitely said something.
No, it’s kinda been confirmed that it was them. The comments that Omid made about Fleet Street knowing who “had the concerns” points to PM naming the correct names.
I’m sure William talked as much racist nonsense as Kate but WITH Kate. He may just may have been savvy enough not to say anything directly to Harry about it. So either Kate directly talked to Harry about this, which I think is actually possible. Or William mentioned to harry that Kate had concerns and used her to express what they both had actually said. Bc otherwise, William’s name would be mentioned in the letter. William being in cahoots with Christian jones and Dan whooton is likely the main reason for space between the brothers.
Jais – Pegs doesn’t even have enough savvy to fill a childsized thimble. I think Pegs definitely made racist comments about his nephew (and Meghan and Doria?) and definitely said them directly to Harry and/or Meghan. Knowing what we know about that blowhard and his difficulty with impulse control and superiority complex, he wouldn’t be able to keep his thoughts to himself. He probably thought he was doing Harry some sort of favor as the wise older brother/global statesman wannabe.
IMO, the reason he’s not mentioned as being named in the letter is because this leak is coming from Pegs’ camp. He and his minions are happy to throw his father and (soon-to-be-ex?) wife under the bus to keep his own name out of it. What I would love is if Chuckles leaks the full letter and blows up Pegs.
I bet Harry’s phone has been ringing non stop with people wanting to threaten him to say something to save them. I hope he has turned his phone off and keeps his family in their bubble of peace and happiness.
Hopefully he has them all on 📵 mute, and is having a lovely weekend.
This family is racist through and through. What about the policy that black and brown people couldn’t hold any administrative positions in the palaces? What happened to the Diversity Czar and the “sensitivity training” they were going to undergo? If it walks like a racist and quacks like a racist, well… Harry and Meghan should tell that bunch to go kick all of the rocks in England.
Let me see if I’ve got this right; a 1000 year old British institution, claimed to be one of the most powerful on earth, the epitome of values and honor now needs a biracial American woman to save it because 2 of its most senior members were outed for making racist comments ? I am impressed by how truly powerful Meghan is, not only in Britain but worldwide!! Only she can “save” this venerable 1000 year old institution!!
I strongly believe it is William and Camilla who were cruel about Archie’s “color.” They are throwing Kate (also racist) under the bus. And no one likes Camzilla so KC3 took one for the team.
It doesn’t really matter who said what. The fact is the entire family is racist.
Exactly, Amy Bee, exactly!
As Nels Abbey opined in inews today, “It is impossible for an entity predicated upon social superiority to be above and beyond racism.” (https://inews.co.uk/opinion/the-monarchy-dangerous-british-fairytale-2783831) IMHO hierarchical monarchies are inherently undemocratic – especially true in UK where BRFCo retains significant legislative power to advance its own interests; less true in other European monarchies where the royal house is put on salary and expected to perform as professional diplomats.
Amy Bee is right. The entire family is racist. Probably just about all the royals (with maybe the exception of Eugenie) was shook when Meghan got pregnant with Archie. The concern was whether this child would be too dark to appear with the rest of the family. Such concern about optics, instead of the joy of an impending birth. They were so concerned about being related to (and photographed with) a child who might be too dark to be considered “white superior”.
I believe this is a deeply ingrained issue in a larger society obsessed with “class” and “bloodlines”. Yet folks – common people, rota rats, stans, and royals – will twist themselves into knots, trying to explain how worrying about how dark an unborn child’s skin will be simply isn’t racist at all. And those explanations will be good enough for many Brits, I believe. Because it really doesn’t matter how the victim feels, the perpetrators themselves will make the determination whether or not something is racist.
Just like cops investigating themselves, racists and the people who love/admire/follow them will announce that no harm at all was done.
Whereas, the rest of the world is watching this fuckery, calling it for what it is. And that’s why the British media and the royalists are flipping out right now. The Windsors are being exposed for the wicked bigots they have always been.
The Commonwealth watches.
Um, no. As Becks1 writes above, we’ve seen Kate’s racism for years. At least those of us who have been paying attention have.
Camilla’s racism is known, expected, no surprise to anyone. Her being named wouldn’t be a surprise, ergo she wasn’t one of the people named.
What Jais wrote under Comment #22 is a likely scenario. William’s racist thoughts and ideas were never directly stated to Harry, but he shared direct quotes from Keen.
Racists often insist that the victim do whatever they can to rehabilitate the abuser in other people’s opinions. This has been my personal experience. Racists want you to announce that they are great people, no matter how shitty they’ve treated you.
That’s par for the course. White supremacy holds itself above reproach. If anything, blame for the shitty behavior/attitudes/comments is placed on the non-white victim, as if to accuse them of forcing the asshole to be racist. Straight out of any bigot’s playbook.
Meghan will be crucified no matter what she says.
Besides, the rota rats are just starved by the Sussex silence. They WISH Meghan would say anything at all for the sake of their clicks. Let em starve, Duchess. Never forget what they did to you and your children.
I think the narrative was driven by Will not and Cant. KC3 is being planted to divert the whole issue from Willnot as his position is more vulnerable and doesn’t have the maturity to handle the maelstrom as a result of his bigotry. I think the
Omid: Writes Endgame where the RF are put on spot. Refers to two unnamed senior RF members as making the statement.
BM/ BaRF: GET into a panic about the book, look for ways to discredit Omid. Omid is painted as Meghan’s / The Sussexx’s mouth piece. Omid refutes this
Book is released in the UK/ US/ Germany / other EU states. OF all of the European outlets, ONLY the DUTCH version is said to mention the 2 RF members who made the racist comment. The book is withdrawn at the 11th hour
Pier’s Morgan purports to have seen the Dutch version mentions the 2 names of members of the RF who made the racist comment. However no one else seems to have seen this copy where the names are mentioned.
Omid is accused of providing the specific names. With him being accused of being H&M’s mouthpiece an inference can be down that he likely got those names directly from H&M
BM calls on H&M to publicly denounce that the name royals are racist .
If H&M acquiescence to do so, they would be taking ownership and confirming that 1)Omid is their mouthpiece (2) they provided the names to Omid when in actual fact someone else in the book may have underhandedly planted the names or at the very best , the narrative is being made up by PM but made to look as if specific names were mentioned.
If H&M respond, then PM would have achieved his goal of discrediting Omid and scapegoating H&M for something which they had nothing to do with
D/4 it’s best for H&M to maintain ZERO SILENCE. Let he BM & their purpet masters sort themselves out. The Truth will come out some day.
That To money woman says the royal family is anti American. This should be trending.
Everyone does understand that Meghan was being kind when she only said they discussed the babies skin color. That wouldn’t have been the end of the conversation. You know there was more to it. I keep hearing people comment that that is only people being curious about it. And yeah that would be right. But you know the rest of the conversation had to be about what a black child would do to the monarchy. And how it would look in pictures. And a lot of other racist stuff. Yet again Meghan was being kind and only wording it to give them cover. If Meghan does reply to Charles and Kate being named. She needs to explain it totally. What exactly they said. And not give them cover for this anymore. And also whether anyone else was in the room at the time. Say William and Camilla also. And none of them said anything against it. The Royals still think they have some control over Harry and Meghan. But they forget. Harry and Meghan can probably blow the rest of the Royal family out of the water. And do have actual proof to back it up.
Meghan owes them nothing. She need not explain anything.
So the Sussexes are expected to come in like the Avengers and save Thanos that is the BRF from the mess they made? The Windsors need to go somewhere and sit down.
Meghan should issue a statement saying why the naming of these names have been eye opening, recollection might vary .
Do you all also recall that it was the women in parliament and not one member of harry family that called out the racist undertones in the reporting . Do you also remember when Robert Johnson wanted to dangle Archie off the balcony or when edmon Holmes suggested that Harry and Meghan be tossed off the balcony or when these people lost their ever missing minds and went after a baby for being named after the queen ? And more recently when piss Morgan issued a threat to Harry ?And what did we hear from Charles and company? We heard crickets, dignified, never complain, never explain crickets . So best of luck or not Windsors. You bottom dwelling racist .
I remember.
Pretty sure that Eamonn Holmes was the one who called M “uppity”.
Meghan the woman who continue to be the target of unhinged racism and bullying and hate going on for several years now. Should speak up and defend two people who not only helped spread the hateful racist comments against her didn’t lift one finger to defend her not once . According to Kensington Palace Kate is too precious and important to be dragged into petty drama now that she been outed as one the racist royal suddenly Meghan has to help Kate but Kate didn’t help Meghan at all she and her family openly briefed about Meghan and lie on her for years while knowing that Meghan was struggling. It’s not up to black peoples the victims of the racism abuse to save white peoples from themselves. Pier Morgan is the one who outed Kate and Charles yet in all this articles and think pieces no one is blaming him it’s all somehow Meghan and Harry fault .
In the Oprah interview Meghan brought up concern over Archie’s skin color in relation to the palace lie that they had decided Archie would not have title. Meghan said she and Harry were told he would not have a title which meant no security. Meghan said the concern over skin color conversations were happening around the title conversations. Meghan did not call anyone racist nor mention any and all racist comments she encountered. I’m of the opinion that any two royals could be legitimately named as racists but Meghan and Harry’s concern was for Archie’s security.
Exactly this! What has been forgotten is the color issue is directly related to title/ no title and how it would impact security.
To those are trying to absolve Charles, please don’t. He is as racist as the rest of family. He’s a man who never reprimanded his staff for racially abusing a secretary who worked at Highgrove, who questioned a British-Pakistani woma’s background when she told him she was from Manchester, who keeps Lady Hussey around after her racism and remained silent when his black daughter in law and child was being racially abused in the press.
That’s fair. I said above that I think Kate may have said something worse than Charles. To be clear, they’re all making racist comments that should have no business coming out of their mouths. Ever. At the end of the day, Charles evicted his non pure-white kids from their home in the UK and there is no coming back from that, regardless of whether Anne encouraged him or not. Please. Trying to get my timeline together, but how soon was it after Kate moved into Adelaide that Charles evicted the Sussexes? Doesn’t matter bc the buck stops with Charles, but it’s also pretty clear that Kate is not good with her kids sharing the same air as the sussex kids. Charles’ actions have always put the sussex children at peril.
If I remember correctly, Kate and the kids moved into Adelaide the summer of ‘22 (August maybe?).
The eviction was in January ‘23.
So approx. 4-5 months between the two events.
Maybe only Canadians will understand, but, “Clumsy” by Our Lady Peace had been in my head hearing these idiots have to audacity to ask Meghan and Harry to defend Kate and Charles.
Perfect, great song and the message totally applies here.
I swear to god that I aways thought the Royal family was a sandwich short of a picnic, but this takes stupid to a whole new level. I wonder if there press release goes we, the most powerful family in the UK, (but in our eyes the world) have had some nasty words said about us and the American woman of colour MUST speak out for us, as must the son /brother who escaped to join her in America! William loves American people (well the white ones oh and everyone who will bow down to us) so he is really important over there, not his brother who accused our white family of being racist
Now, we know neither Megan or Harry used the word racist, it was the press, but the press are our friends and we don’t want to upset them. So Harry and Megan have to accept that they are inferior to US and must make a statement to our friends in the press, so the press can twist and turn everything they say, and can make an absolute fortune printing the same story in 1000 different ways, all the way up to our Christmas carol service, so they will forget about the kings grave robbing, Andrew taking stolen money from the Turkish gentleman and Billy pegging away, what’s that you say, what about Kate? Oh she’s happy enough, zonked out and feeding her wiglets with buttons, don’t worry about Kate
…feeding her wiglets with buttons…
*wiping tears from my eyes* You have wonderful imagination and wit, Mary Pester!
My hope is that some day a member of the BM gets sick of all the hypocrisy and writes a tell all book of their own about the corrupt relationship between the Royals and the media. They wouldn’t need to worry about future employment because it would be a worldwide best seller. The media members who have maintained their silence would be sick with jealousy when their former friend is hailed for their exposé.
@Giddy, Omid is the one doing that and all corners of BM are trying to destroy him not just for the sake of punishment, but also to send a message to others who would choose to do the same. The media is even harassing Omid’s family, who aren’t anyway involved in this, so would other people risk themselves, their families for that? Omid also said in his book, the tabloids went to great lengths to find any dirt on him to discredit his journalism, which luckily he didn’t have. It seems to me, the british media is a mafia-like structure using the protections given to journalism only to hide their wrong-doings and to make their owners more and more rich while punishing anyone who go against the official narrative.
@sevenblue, the media slant isn’t just about sending a message to others about writing similar books, it’s about diverting attention from everything else said in Endgame about the serious challenges facing the RF for the future, most of which has little to do with two people who walked away four years ago. The media isn’t fostering a conversation about the meaning/importance/impact of members of the monarchy raising the issue of a child’s skin color; instead, the subject is, who said it, and shouldn’t Meghan apologize. Just like Omid pointed out in a recent interview – no one is picking up the story of Charles’ newest financial reveal, that he’s been the beneficiary of the assets of scores of dead British citizens. To keep in good with the RF, the story was deflected by talking about Meghan’s recent red carpet appearance.
So when Kaiser asks, why all of this performative BS, here’s one answer.
Ok my celebchy friends, I got soooooo pssd of yesterday reading the garbage that was in the paper, that I fired off an email to the Daily, it might not make sense, but I must admit In my defence that I was absolutely FUMING when I sent it!
Sirs
I have always, until recently enjoyed reading Kevin’s different pages, but no more,and Russel Myers, how you love to sound of about Harry and meghan, but maybe you should try printing FACTS, and not sycophantic drivel.
Point one, Harry and Megan had no part in the writing of Endgame. Fact two, take accountability for your own actions, neither Harry or Megan used the word Racists, YOU did, both of you, and every other paper in this country. You know as well as I do, the words “unconscious Bias”, are far less inflammatory than “Racist”, but hey, you chose Racist because it gives you a better story, no matter who gets hurt in the process.
Now it would seem that Kate was in the positions to insist what was in and out of the statement from the Queen. One minute it’s Jean – Christopher Gray, who wrote it, then against a couple of senior officials, Kate got her way, not the late Queen, not Mr Gray, but Kate!
See, this is what I, and many, many more people don’t get, you keep saying there are no “inside sources” at the Palace, and the Palace doesn’t leak, but then, you print thousands of words quoting “sources in the palace”, so either your lieing or it does indeed leak, which is it? And who leaked the kings letters, please ask your inside sources, and while your at it, thank Mr Morgan again, For outing the king and Kate, because HE is the only one to name them, of course using the tax payer as an excuse.
Maybe take a look at the hatred you continually stir up, I’m disgusted with both of you and with The Mirror, or are you hopeing this will help the court case, because “bad idea,” it won’t, and finally, there will be no court action. The palaces has to much to hide.
Mary Pester
Saltash
Cornwall
How I wish they would print your letters @mary pester😂. If you have them all saved, you could make them into a book. Letters from a veteran that the papers refuse to print…shameful.
Good for you Mary Pester, you articulated that very well! Thanks for writing to those bastards!
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I firmly believe that THIS is why it’s come out now about Charlie and keen, Morgan used to work at the mirror, Morgan still works for mickey murdoch, the court case is due next year, so they are trying to sabotage the case before it comes to court. They want to try and discredit Harry, they know Harry won’t put out a statement or back down from his case. So they think this will influence the outcome. The publishers need to know people are watching them, we need to know when, and by who, the names were inserted into the draft sent to the interpreter. My money is on all roads leading back to a muckey media mogul and his son
Agreed. If this book is published by a Murdoch owned company, it’s super easy for them to slip in text if they want to.
I keep coming back to the fact that (unless Omid clearly stated otherwise in his book–I haven’t started reading it yet–that there were only TWO people who stated their concerns, then I’m going to believe there are more than two people. The letters were leaked by BP. I can’t remember if at that time they said only two people were involved. I don’t believe the bm. At all. Just because they tell us there were only two people, doesn’t make it true.
Here’s what I think is going on. I think they expected Meghan to give them something when the letters were leaked. She gave them nothing in her statement. They decided to up their game. I don’t know who it was the brf or the bm behind the Dutch translation, but I think there’s a good chance we’ll find out. Omit has stated clearly that he NEVER wrote the names into anything that he submitted. That means it wasn’t in any of his drafts that went to the publisher, therefore, this is the fault of his publisher or the one they contracted with in The Netherlands.
IMO, H&M should continue to ignore all of the media created crap and do what they do. I think someone wanted to control the narrative that it was KFC and Cant. Personally, I think it was, at least, all four of them and palace staff. They all had it in for Meghan and they never pulled their punches. If they keep this up, I wonder if we’ll end up with ALL of the names and not the ones they choose to let out there?
There is nothing the bm and brf would like better than for Meghan or Harry to say anything about this. They might want enough said for a copyright lawsuit, or a lawsuit that they named the racists and H&M would have to prove it. I don’t know, but it just seems that all of this was directed at H&M.
I won’t get my copy until Tuesday. To my knowledge, Omid hasn’t clearly stated/confirmed any names. Saying those names have been known on Fleet Street isn’t a confirmation of it being Chuck or Kate. There wasn’t just one conversation. Multiple conversations with family members. Conversations that happened without Meghan being present. Harry relayed them to her(though I’m sure not so subtle concerns were passively-aggressively were made when she was present). That happened before, during and after the wedding & Meghan’s pregnancy.
The BM is the one that headlined who is the royal racist. Harry and Meghan have never said it was just one or two people. All they’ve ever confirmed is that it wasn’t QE2 or Philip. The Fug Four are all guilty.
H&M should totally defend the people who’ve never defended them over the last 7 years. /s They should also come out and say it’s perfectly acceptable for the palaces to protect an aide selling info (with William’s go ahead) to Wootton. And, too many other things to list. Oh yea, Harry totally needs to apologize to William for William assaulting him. Harry made him do it! /s Being a royalist means not having an ethical conscience.
Hmmmm… Kate’s own husband hasn’t (and won’t) release some sort of statement defending her but somehow Meghan has to? If Kate requires defending, why isn’t she being defended by her allegedly beloved husband, who has known her for two decades, rather than her estranged sister in law who by all accounts she was never close with?
I assumed the worst comments/the comments made directly to H and/or M were by Wills and Camo so I’m still not sure what to make of this revelation. I just think it’s reeeeeealy interesting that Kate isn’t getting any sort of defensive cover from her husband.
Well, he did hold her hand for about 1.5 seconds in front of the cameras. What more do you want from the man😂😂😂
This is the telling part- nobody from the palace has denied. They could go on record saying Kate doesn’t wear fake hair, but not this?
Many of us predicted that Kate would be thrown under the bus at some point in order to justify a separation/divorce. The gutter tabloids have been hinting at this for some time, and many of the articles written about her are becoming more and more shady. I think the palace wants rid of her as much as her idiot husband, she’s a liability and an albatross around the senior royals’ necks. This situation is like an octopus – tentacles everywhere – but we know the BRF isn’t good at crisis management, they’re all too busy trying to absolve themselves of any wrong-doing to think clearly.
PM named both her and Charles for a reason. Normally he likes to attack Harry and Meghan but he chose to be explicit about a Dutch version that only the most online would end up seeing. It would not be a surprise if William discussed with Murdoch more than just the hacking settlement and perhaps there is a plan to discredit his current wife.
So here’s a thought I just had: if H&M defend Chuck and Kate agaibst these allegations, then…. who are the actual racists? They’re all racists sure, but if not Kate and Charles, who were H&M talking about? There’s only a certain amount of suspects, since H&M the revelations would harm their rep, and these racists comments were seemingly tied into security discussions.
We know it’s not Phil or Lizzie.
Andrew has had way worse problems and I doubt it’s anyone lower than him.
So that leave who?
Cams
Willy
Anne
Sophie and Ed?
I really only see Willy or Anne being involved in discussions on security. Cams is off at her own home a lot but I suppose isn’t impossible. Sophie and Ed are afterthoughts though.
So basically, if H&M defend Chuck and Kate, they tacitly accuse Will, Anne or Cam.
Has anyone thought this through?
Rapunzel, I go back to the fact that the only reason we say there were two people is because of the bm. I think there were more than two in the brf and then there was the staff who hated Meghan. Besides, why wouldn’t it be KFC and Cant? And others.
Ha! The answer would be no, no one has thought this through!
How exactly is Meghan supposed to defend them if they are outed as racists? Whoever leaked the letter was very short-sighted. You know they old saw- Better to be silent than to open your mouth and prove you are an idiot- or in this case, a racist.
Haaaaaaaa! First they doubled down now they’re trying to enforce yet another double standard. What a bunch of inbred racist twits. I would hope this scandal ends the monarchy but it won’t. They’ll cling to it until they’re phased out. White discomfort while entertaining to watch when you aren’t their intended victim is dangerous nonetheless. Poor Meghan is going to face a lot more of the same racist attacks because biased af die hard royal supporters will continue to blame, demonize, devalue and dehumanize her and her children. They’ll go soft on jer husband since they believe he was led astray by her.
I really don’t think there is anything the Sussexes can say. The letter was confidential, she didn’t give anyone permission to share what was in it so her lawyers are probably telling her not to say anything that gives tacit permission to reveal the contents. Also, in the past 24 hours, the royals have only attacked the Sussexes more over this, threatening to revoke their titles again and gaslighting them. Also, as pointed out, they have never defended her, neither directly or by their actions. They have not once said mistakes were made or shown any courtesy or empathy. This isn’t something they need to get involved in because there is no point. Its the UK press and palace being messy to distract from a book highly critical of them.
Meghan said that those royal racist comments tied in with talk of removing Archie’s royal status and protection. My guess is that Kate wasn’t just throwing round racists slurs about a baby, but she was actively campaigning for this, and got Charles and his people onside (although I doubt they need much convincing). If Charles started this he wouldn’t need kate, but Kate would need Charles.
Also the ‘Meghan made me cry’ story came out at the same time. Kate was literally campaigning to make meghans life hell.
Kate’s racism is now out there for the world to see, she will never be able to take that back.
February pisces, I love that for her. I agree that Cant would have talked to KFC about this. I don’t doubt that at all. I do, however, think that she wasn’t the only one. Someone is working hard to make people think that just KFC and Cant were racist. Nope, not in this lifetime.
I think they were all definitely racist to the baby but I think kate was actively campaigning for Charles and co to change to law to take away Archie’s royal status and protection. I think kate may have left a paper trail which is probably why she can’t deny it.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Kate went on about the sussex kids not getting HRH and therefore not needing security along with some racist nonsense.
I hate all of this for them. I’m sure a great deal of envy was stirred into the dish by Meghan and Harry’s wonderful Invictus. And then glowing Meghan at the awards ceremony, where it was mooted she was moving towards TV/film production. They were waiting for an excuse to kick them down; let’s face it, Kate flashing her knickers wasn’t quite getting them the retaliation they wished for. Rather than causing problems, this has landed in the BRF’s laps, particularly jealous Kate’s, and they are loving the UK tabloid indignation on their behalf. People are saying H&M’s titles will be stripped and their plans to work on new projects will be thrown backwards because they are toxic and no one will want to be involved with them (not my words).
“People are saying H&M’s titles will be stripped and their plans to work on new projects will be thrown backwards because they are toxic and no one will want to be involved with them ”
People are saying this since they left, they said, their brand is toxic and no one will want to work with them. And look what they have achieved since then! Also, no matter how many bots are used or how many hate-journalists are activated, after all is said and done, what people will remember is, King and future Queen were racist to a baby in their family. I have read a lot of gossip threads (moderated ones where bots are not allowed) in places where Sussexes are criticized often that no one thinks it is a lie and everyone believes that Kate is a racist woman and Sussexes’ Oprah interview was truthful in the end. Like I said, it doesn’t matter who leaked it, what is a problem for the firm now is everyone knows who the racists are. They didn’t appreciate the gift H&M gave them at the interview by keeping the names anon.
Yeah but they’re fools. What’s landed in their laps is that the very insular BM made up of primarily white journalists is repeating over and over that it definitely absolutely was not racist. Which I’m sure they and their base love. But the rest of the world is watching as the BM is showing itself. The doubling down that it wasn’t racist but just simple curiosity actually makes it obvious to anyone outside their already racist base that it absolutely was racist. They doth protesteth way too much. It’s overkill to the point of cringe. And please, let them take the titles from the first mixed-race children in the RF. The rest of the world and history will not judge them well and that’s a fact.
And the effect is cumulative – considering recent history of both his “majesty” and his heir declining to apologize for the RFs role in the slave trade, the Lady Hussey incident followed by the smearing of her victim, Waity pulling her hand back from a WOC and the Jamaican fence photo, racist art at KP and Camilla’s home (lamp in her entryway) and I know I am forgetting countless other examples. If there were not all these other incidents, that “simple curiosity” explanation might just have a chance, but it doesn’t.
A quick check of the BM online and not much is being said about Meghan defending the royals, at least not the screaming headlines I was expecting. It’s almost as if they’ve seen the online tweets and commentary of how the family Never defended Meghan or her children. It’s almost as if they’re realizing that they overplayed their hand. Charles and William can “look over their options “ as much as they want but we all know that they are just blowing air and nothing will come of it, they certainly won’t sue PM for actually stating the truth.
Well, that was at the top of the DFs webpage yesterday evening, US & UK versions.
Come On!
No one can expect H&M to start defending or supporting W&K, can they?
When hell freezes over.
Btw, WHY would W or K need support? Are they not “chosen by G*d”? LOL
I love this so much for Kate. She now gets a taste of her own medicine when she stayed silent during the “Meghan made Kate cry” era. Meghan is under no obligation to defend Kate or clarify anything and my guess is she will never speak about the incident ever again. To be fair, Meghan never used the word “racist” during her entire interview with Oprah in talking about the people discussing Archie’s skin tone. The word was used several times in reference to how the media portrayed Meghan (I went back to the Oprah interview transcript to check). But never specifically about the royal family. Unlike Meghan, Kate can’t come out and tell her side of the story unless she wants to be exiled by the BRF (maybe if she ever divorced William) so she has to use the dirty tabloid press. So far she has not countered the narrative that Meghan names her as one of the people having conversations about Archie’s skin tone which means she can’t deny it because it’s true.
Watch this space. In the weeks and months to come, I can see Kate getting her side out through “sources” to specific “journalists” in the BM. The challenge right now is that it’s gonna take some creative brainstorming to twist it into a story that won’t make her look like a complete asshole. And even then, it still probably will. And it will only work with a very specific section of people that already support her bc she mirrors their own bigotry. Most everyone else will see through it.
Camilla Tominey has already started with this. I am sure it will be covered in more detail tomorrow.
Becky English is likely on the list too.
The royal family truly underestimated Meghan in many ways. It never occurred to them that a woman with Meghan’s background getting the attention of a British Prince says something about that girl’s prowess and connections. They only saw negative impressions, Kardashian, etc. (that’s why I always say to the haters, love the game, don’t waste your time hating the player. I really wish that someone had turned me on to Meghan years ago. I could have learned a lot from the way she moved). Meghan is the worlds number one networker, IMO. Right now she is receiving advice from people who range from current and former world leaders to billionaires, and best selling authors. The royal family is woefully over matched in their, at this point, one-sided war with the Sussexes. I think William is at this point realizing that Harry bettered him in his choice of a wife.
Say nothing, Sussexes! Keep a dignified silence and watch Salt Island set itself on fire. You are blameless! You are the victims. Let those villains tell on themselves and rat each other out. That is their style for always!
When your opponent is destroying itself, just step back, stay out of the way, and let it proceed.
Hear! Hear!
Ha ha , well said 👌
If Charlie had any empathy , which we know he hasn’t, if he was a decent man , which we know he is not, he should issue an apology .
To Meghan for the way she was treated and for him not putting a stop to it .
To Harry for not supporting him , when as a father he should have .
To his grandchildren , for not giving them the love that a grandparent should .
To all of them ,for not stopping the media abuse .
That should not be that hard Charles and it might be the start of taking control of your life .
Of course it will never happen , but it should ,
As most of you know, my best friend is South African and lives there. Afrikaans is very similar to Dutch and she has read both the Dutch and the English versions. It is not just the names that are in the Dutch version, there are additional sentences, paragraphs, etc that are not in the English version. This is not simply a translation issue. It is not the same book. So how did THAT happen??? I am asking that honestly, how are there in essence two versions but only one showed up in another country/translation. The Dutch one is much harsher of the RF, etc and the English version is more toned down.
I believe, only the editor of the Dutch version can answer the question and probably will be the target of the investigation. I hope, the license agreement didn’t give such control to other editors. It is also curious that the Dutch version is the only one with these additional sentences problem. If the issue was with the English version’s earlier drafts, the other foreign editions, at least a few, would have the same differences.
She should hang on to her Dutch version; it will be a valuable historical resource.
Guys, Meghan already gave a strongly worded statement per her spokesperson in April 2023, when asked by the press to respond to articles about the ‘supposed content’ of her 2021 private letter to Charles, which first appeared in The Telegraph and probably was leaked by Charles or people in his court on his behalf, and also was spread by other media and Royal correspondents who falsely accused her of leaking the letter.
My strong believe is that the leaked content might have been Charles’ doctored version of her letter’s content – i.e. swapping the names of the actual named Royal racist by her. I say that, given Meg’s angry replay to the leaking two years later.
I think she was angry because Charles used the letter’s ‘content’ he gave to TT to safe face after she snubbed his ConAnation, to make it look like he and Meghan were cool again, and that the ‘baby’s skin colour issue’ was resolved, but in fact it was not.
This is what Meghan’s spokesperson’s press statement from April 2023 said:
“The Duchess of Sussex is going about her life in the present, not thinking about correspondance from two years ago related to conversations from four years ago. Any suggestions otherwise is false and frankly ridiculous. We encourage tabloid media and various total correspondents to stop the exhausting circus that they alone are creating.”
And this also happened in April of this year: Meghan’s lawyers sent legal letters to Valentine Low and Emily Andrews for Tweeting and telling lies about her leaking her own letter to Charles to TT. Low apologised in a Tweet and shut up, I don’t know if Andrews openly did too.
Still, in the last few days, the grazies from UK tabloids and media are blaiming Meghan for leaking her letter, instead of Charles and his court, who in fact didn’t learn a thing from the other Palace that leaked her private letter to her father to that other UK tabloid, The Fail, who she took to court and won the lawsuit from, twice.
And now these press idiots and commentators (not the family, they dont dare) are bagging her and Harry to speak out for that racist family. Not happening. I think that Meghan is done with this royal racist drama, and I believe, also with this whole royalty and being royal thing. I think she’s holding on it for Harry and the kids’ sake. Who would’nt with a family and a rotten institution like that.
🤔 That is a good and plausible theory, ADVISOR2U.
if Meghan wanted it out there, she’d have said it. They don’t get to leak/guess in hopes of her confirming or denying it until they get it right.
HM should just be silent and let the BM do ALL the damage. The idiot Camilla Tominey now is saying that the BRF isn’t racist but anti-American 😆. Let it be loud and clear to ALL Americans what their true colors are. That b&@tch just opened a new can of worms where more and more Americans will see the BRF(and probably even that country) getting more Irrelevant.
Silence is golden-the royal family practiced this concept on a daily basis when Meghan and her child was being dragged and smeared in the UK so-called newspapers-my guess on the leak is twofold-1. someone in Charles’s office read it and hatched a plan to help William become king-to try and push old Charlie out the door before he died-2. since this was published by Murdock and everyone knows in the UK media who said what-a special plan was hatched between a leak in Charles’s office to get the letter and the Murdock presses could read and insert the names they wanted-they did it in a different language but let the English one remain untouched-why to make money of course-the royal family getting bed with these snakes will always come back to haunt them.
But they accepted an award for fighting racism?
lol. And they did? They exposed the racist coverage of the british media and talked about the racial blindness of the most powerful firm in UK. You want H&M to defend the racists in Harry’s family to show they are fighting against racism?
Anonymous, The bm want H&M to defend the RACISTS in the brf. Think about it.