The British press is barely mentioning the Princess of Wales at this point. The Daily Mail writes about Kate like she’s still up and around, and they’re doing “placeholder stories” about her fashion or jeans or hair or whatever. The other outlets have barely devoted any energy to her recovery or a possible timetable for when anyone might see her again. Then something curious started happening in the past week with the Times of London’s royal coverage. They started burying information about Kate in stories about King Charles. You’d think that if Roya Nikkhah or other Times reporters were being told by Kensington Palace that Kate will be out of view for most of the year, they would dedicate an article to it. Instead, this has the feel of “Kate’s never coming back” being soft-launched and simultaneously buried. How long can they get away with doing this before the international media really presses them to do their f–king jobs?
So, several days ago, in the Times’ coverage of King Charles’s visit to a cancer center, the paper noted this: “Kate is expected to be away from public duties for some time.” A one-off assumption, perhaps, lightly added as a comparison to how Charles and Kate are handling their cancer treatments? Then Roya Nikkhah buried this information in a larger story about King Charles’s schedule for the next two months:
While the King will be increasingly visible in the coming weeks and months, the Princess of Wales will not, as she continues with her course of preventative chemotherapy and recuperation at home in Windsor. William, who has prioritised caring for his wife and three young children, will increase his diary of public engagements over the next two months, before the Waleses break for their children’s summer school holidays in July and August.
On Wednesday, it is understood he has no plans to see his brother, and will instead be in Windsor to conduct an investiture. On Thursday and Friday, he will head to Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly.
Those close to William say that despite the strain of recent months, his “humour is always there” and “he’s been on good form”, more so since the speculative storm around Kate largely subsided after her public announcement in March that she was receiving cancer treatment. A source close to the Waleses says: “There is a huge sense of relief that the family have been given the privacy and peace they asked for. He continues to do his best to try to balance supporting his wife, family and father with his public duty as the Prince of Wales. But of course from the start of the year, the focus of his family has been at the forefront of his mind.”
A friend of William reflects on the weeks before Kate revealed she was undergoing cancer treatment, when William, still also processing his father’s illness, attended several public engagements while wild rumours and speculation whirled on social media about his wife. “I don’t know how he managed to keep doing all of that, knowing what he was going through, while the world was ridiculing and throwing sh-t at his wife while she was having chemotherapy. That speaks to his character, grit and determination to go out there and do the job that is expected of him. He has taken most of it on the chin and got on with it.”
That last paragraph is one of the most insane things I’ve ever read, especially given that we all witnessed what really happened. This is Kensington Palace trying to rewrite and reimagine history before our eyes. All of those weird-ass “sightings” of “Kate” trotting along at the Windsor Farm Store and being chauffeured around Windsor, all while Kensington Palace furiously lied to everyone about Kate’s condition AND blamed Kate for manipulating the Mother’s Day photo? And now all of that clownery is being rewritten as “William was so brave and gritty to weather the sh-tstorm of his own creation.” No one was throwing sh-t at his wife either – we were asking where the hell she was and why the palace was lying constantly and why everything was so f–king chaotic. And again, nothing of how Kate is actually doing. Nothing about her gritty bravery, nothing about how she’s just getting on with it. There’s something extremely unsettling happening here and I sincerely hope the international media continues to press this situation so that we can get some answers.
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“I don’t know how he managed to keep doing all of that, knowing what he was going through, while the world was ridiculing and throwing sh-t at his wife”. I think this more accurately describes other royals and not W&K.
That line is totally made up, like huh?
If willie wanker doesn’t care about having a blood brother or not, why tf would he care about having a wife or not? Clearly, they’re on the verge of separating if that’s not already done since 2020.
Again another cowardly move by willie and kensington palace. Why do you need to lie if you have power. They know they don’t.
I think this is the divorce. Agree with other posters who said there will be an announcement that she’s retiring from public life. Willy bought off the Middletons so they stay silent but I think they are using her health as the excuse. It’s done.
But can they not say she’s retiring from public life without there being a divorce? Or is that they’ll announce a divorce later? Guess I’m confused how that would work.
@Jais, They can say she’s retiring from public life because of her health, but behind the scenes they are divorced. William wants to keep his image as happily married so they won’t announce the divorce. However, he wants the public to forget about Kate so he’s just made her disappear. The Rota will stop mentioning her. The public will stop asking about her. She’ll be a footnote in history.
The question is whether they roll her out for William’s coronation or formally announce a divorce before then. My guess is if they announce it no one will care about Kate because she will have faded from public view, so William can just keep it moving.
It would be pretty awkward if he were dating or wanted to get remarried and hadn’t previously announced a divorce.
Hmm @startupspouse, if that’s what’s happening, my view would be it’s better to rip the band aid off and deal with the fallout but these people aren’t known for making great decisions.
How can someone “retiring” from public life at such a young age, continue to live off the public dole?
The official separation needs to get done before he becomes king. He cannot have a wife and have no wife at the coronation. So the announcement is based on the health on the King, exactly what was strangely said last week about how the king doing well puts less stress on Kate.
Queen Caroline, estranged wife (not divorced) of George IV was bodily prevented from attending the Westminster coronation of her husband in July of 1821, though she did try to enter through various doors. George IV was an unpopular king because of his extravagance and Caroline received enough public sympathy to cause an earlier bill in Parliament, that would have taken away her titles and granted George IV a divorce, to fail. So there is precedent, but it was very unpleasant. IIRC.
“Doing all of that?” All of what? Hiding, day drinking, and briefing against Harry?
All of that, yes! lol
He ditched his daughters birthday to go to a sporting event and did not take her along .He is not a noble character
He deserves a medal for bravery however. No one else could possibly day drink or go to football matches while under so much self-induced stress.
Yep, this is ridiculous: “That speaks to his character, grit and determination to go out there and do the job that is expected of him.” The only “job” anyone expects of Bill at this point is to go to a football game with his boy friend or day drink in a pub with celebrities. Tough work if you can get it.
Yep. The world threw what at his wife? Oh, questions about where she was. Which he lied about and responded to with a misleading Farm Market video and an AI fake photo called out as pure propaganda by photo agencies.
Exactly. Harry flew home for Lily’s birthday but Willy went to a game that the birthday girl enjoys. Not such a great father.
That’s funny, because there was a story in Yahoo saying Kate would be returning to royal duties soon because her “treatments” were going so well. But yeah, how dare the public question what’s going on! The nerve!
Me think Kate conditions are worst than what they say.
Oh I’m definitely in the “she’s gone⚰️” category now.
I’ve been in that camp for a while. That or she’s severely incapacitated.
This is what I’ve thought since the beginning! She’s gone and he’s responsible in some sort of way. There’s just too much that makes no sense at all, and I include Harry flying to see his father for 20 minutes when Chuckles’s cancer was announced. Something about that convinced me that he came to sign some sort of paperwork. Because Chuckles’s situation wasn’t dire (as we clearly see) so there was no need for him to fly all that way for a 20 minute face-to-face just to lay eyes on his father. Something else happened that day and I’m convinced it had to do with the Wailses.
Add that weirdness to Huevo’s drunken swaying at his first public appearance and the absolute farce coming from KP (around frankenphotos, Keen lookalike in the video, she’s fine vs she’ll be gone for the rest of the year) and you have to conclude that nothing is what it seems.
🎵What went wrong…?🎶
This is a good point- perhaps Harry was signing some sort of contract of silence about Kate.
@sussexwatcher but if Harry really knew what went down (as you say if it involved william doing something sinister to Kate), wouldn’t Harry have spoken out and alerted the authorities that something’s wrong? We know Harry is an honorable, honest person and wouldn’t know something like that and just not do anything. He would have spoken out by now, no?
So I’m not in the she’s gone camp, but either way, something is going on, and I’m pretty sure, whatever it is, they will not be telling Harry. Maaaybe he’s hearing rumors from whomever he still speaks to but it’s doubtful that Charles or William are telling him anything.
She could be far worse than they let on which normal for some people battling cancer ( people who are cancer free don’t go through chemo whether it preventive or otherwise), but if she was dead they would have announced it like the actual Queen and the gentlemen’s who passed due to self harm. Do conspiracy theorist ever sit back and actually think about the theories they come up with?
But how?? How do you keep a death from public records? How do you keep her family from demanding a huge ass POW funeral for her?
It’s not like there’s been some trade off where the BRF pays all the Middleton business debt……
Why would they keep quiet?
SussexWatcher – I have a suspicion Harry came over to sign an NDA about Kate and William and the truth of that situation. Nothing was said by phone until he was in the room and only then was the full truth disclosed. However, Charles is trying to cover it all up and by putting an NDA in place feels he’s prevented Harry from disclosing this in another book.
Just my thoughts. Harry is so damn lucky to be out of this whole mess. I still don’t get how everyone is OK with a missing princess.
I am a little in this camp, but I think it is all about looks. I think she is OK but looks bad and the absolute worst thing for her (in her eyes and the palace’s eyes) is to be seen not looking perfect. In that farm stand video she looked emaciated, and I think the video of her where she acknowledged what was happening was heavily filtered to disguise that.
But I don’t think Huevo would protect her so completely if it was just about looks. He wouldn’t be “allowing” her to just take an entire year off! And he certainly wouldn’t need to not work himself under the guise of school runs. If anything (if it were just about looks), Huevo would be briefing against her in the press constantly – how lazy she is that she won’t return to work, so vain, he needs a partner who will work, and so on. In fact, that would be the perfect excuse to divorce her – she refuses to work and he needs a wife who will do the job of P of Wales.
@lucky you could be right about that. She’s got nothing to offer other than her brittle facade and she won’t want to be seen with it cracked.
@sussezwatcher, but he is also benefitting at the moment. He gets do be ‘doting’ dad and husband and not work. Once people have soured on his shenanigans maybe he will turn on her.
The farm stand video Kate was a look-alike named Gabrielle Munro Douglas, who is naturally lanky. The bench video was judged by an agency who works with the Pentagon to be AI, and when have any of us ever heard her speak intelligibly like she does in that “announcement.” Something is extra-wrong with Kate, and none of us knows what that is.
None of this was ever about protecting Huesa. It’s about protecting Huevo. The people who run the institution are invested in its survival. Courtiers, cops, everyone in the “establishment”.
There’s no need to hide a surgery. There’s no need to hide a cancer dx or a treatment plan. Chucky the Peevish proves that daily, weekly, monthly. What’s there to hide? Buy the reports she’s well enough to make a car ride to church/balcony appearance at minimum, unless a) we were being lied to about her dx and prognosis from the beginning, and that’s going to raise some dangerous questions for the palaces, or b) she is in a persistent vegetative state and nonverbal?
KP lied about the photos and video “proof of life”. Stands to reason they’ve lied about everything else. Why and for whom, are the questions that should still be asked. UK press are silent because of the Invisible Contract, but they’re getting twitchy and restless. All the nonsense involving the fake Kate & Ma Midd photo, the fake Farm store vid, was a project concocted between KP & TMZ/The Sun and was, imo, under the direction of Murdoch. He is the one that has the Special Invisible Contract with Huevo. Lord knows what kompromat Murdoch has on Huevo.
Next month is the 6 month mark. Could be a breaking point. Concha Calleja is already speaking up again, and the drip drip drip continues across int’l media and social media. Hiding a whole princess for 6 months? Unheard of. The demands will increase for them to bring Kate in public. If they can’t produce her, not even Roya will be able to quell the public unrest with her poison pen.
It has to be worse. This is also making me think the garden video was in fact AI. Unless she had just started treatment and now she looks terrible as the commenter above says. There is so much to question here. Is it really bad or just her own vanity that’s keeping her hidden?
Given how leaky KP usually is, and how security around Kate has been airtight throughout this mess (not a single peep from nurses, staffers, etc.), I too believe that Kate’s condition is indeed dire. She may very well be moribund, comatose, or severely injured.
I know, I know … tinfoil hat and all that. But I’ve never thought for one moment that she needed emergency surgery. Some have suggested that there’ll be an announcement sometime later this year saying that she took a sudden turn for the worse, and now she’s gone. The Middletons will have been richly paid off, and a big ol’ funeral pageant planned.
I’ve never liked Kate much, goodness knows. But I would NEVER wish the loss of a mother on a child, let alone three children. This is just a bad feeling I have, and I pray I’m wrong. But seeing George at an Aston Villa match, and no pics of him cracking even a small smile, tells me I’m right.
Lots of people on social media seem to be thinking the same – that this is kind of a soft launch for “oops, she’s dead”. And that would actually explain a lot. Except for her family (or we haven’t really seen her family, I can’t remember) and the one time we saw George.
Then there are a lot of people thunking this is the soft launch for their divorce. But I don’t really think that’s it either. It would just look too bad for the Welfare Heir to divorce his cancer stricken wife…
But then again, they are so tremendously bad at everything they touch, one of those two options might just be it.
What happened to all the briefings about Kate “working from her bed” on all of her totally important passion projects that she is utterly dedicated to? Those stories all came to a sudden halt.
Funny how the palace has claimed that Kate’s “chemo” started in late February, she was then “seen” practically river dancing her way through that Windsor farm shop in late March, which would have been almost a month into her “cancer treatment”, has said “out of her own mouth” on video that she is “well”, so for what reason is she now unable to be seen for what looks like the rest of the year? Give us a break, I beg.
I suppose it is possible that there was more cancer and it has spread.has spread.
Nikkah very deliberately says “preventative chemotherapy.” So. It hasn’t spread. I personally think she just might be reminding us of that phrase because it’s so damn curious and nonsensical…
rosa mwemaid, I’ve wondered about this, too. What if the cancer was not expected and it’s worse than anyone has said? She would be going through some extreme chemo. Add onto that that there could be divorce discussions–or will be–but she could want that as much as Billy Idle at this point. I don’t particularly like Bone Idle because she’s hasn’t passed up an opportunity to show the world when in public how much she dislikes/hates Meghan. That’s after helping with the palace hate campaign against M, too.
Does anyone think that living in the Firm is a walk in the park? She may be looking at her life very differently than she did before, and she may want a lot more for herself and their children.
I have a feeling she won’t be around until late this year. It’ll be interesting to see how they frame that as the year goes on.
She’s kinda prime age for ovarian and/or cervical cancer, isn’t she? Those are both quiet cancers, so sure, It could be high grade upon detection.
Yeah just taking their own words at face value, this makes no sense. They’ve lied, obfuscated and misinformed from day one.
The working from bed thing has ALWAYS been the tell that this is all a big lie. I suppose the lie could be just that she’s working (at best, it could just be the habit of covering her laziness kicking in). But I have always thought that the lack of any communication from Kate, even though she’s hard at work from bed, is soooooo suspicious.
Wow they certainly are trying to re-write history. We still have no idea what has caused the disappearance of Can’t and they are trying to make Peg some wonderful husband and father who has gone through a lot. What they forget is that people have eyes and see just how lazy he is and what a crap father and husband he truly is. Where is Can’t and what has Peg done to her?
Peg sold out his sick wife and said she did the photo shopping and after saying he took the picture. He stirred up the media.
Indeed. I nearly choked at reading the line about Bulliam not loosing “…his humour”. The thing noone has ever seen him have or attributed to.
Oh he absolutely has humour, it’s just not funny. Remember the ‘joke’ about the delivery guy getting frisked or whatever it was when her arrived at the palace. He makes ‘jokes’ all the time.
Let’s not forget they distinctly said she does not have cancer at first, so to gaslight the public about being horrible the whole time she was battling cancer is wholly on them. Shame on them.
It was someone here who caught the fact that in the initial January announcement, everything was in quotes (or most of it), but that last part, at the end, “It is not believed to be cancerous” (or however it was worded) was conspicuously *not* in quotes. I went back and looked at the time, and there did seem to be something shady about it. I guess they could have meant that cancer was not suspected at the time of the “abdominal surgery,” but that’s just semantics— they were definitely hiding the truth since the beginning.
So who knows what’s actually going on, but they’ve been playing games for the entire time. They think the public is comprised of total morons.
The wording actually gave KP a lot of wiggle room – “it is not believed to be cancerous” – that wasn’t officially from KP if I remember correctly, I think English had that quote – but they didn’t say it wasn’t cancer. They said it was “not believed” to be cancerous. So when they later announced that there was cancer, their first comment about not being cancerous couldn’t be called a lie, because it was not definitive.
Is anyone at KP smart enough to word it that way deliberately? IDK.
Becky English explicitly said in follow up tweets after the statement in January that it was not believed to be cancer.
They have deliberately lied so really nothing they say is credible at this point b
Yeah, “believed to be” is doing a lot of work here. And we know that Becky English will say anything to keep herself in W&K’s good favor.
On a different subject, the “not cancerous” announcement is why the claim that William’s absence from his godfather’s memorial had nothing to do with Thomas Kingston’s death, is so suspicious. In both instances these statements were made without any prompting from anyone in the public. Really, really strange how those people continuously exist in opposite-ville.
NBC news reported in February that “the palace” specified in Jaunuary “that her condition is not cancerous.”
They’re disappearing Kate and not even letting her center in it. It’s all about how W is taking on all this and “getting on with it”. Meanwhile, all she gets is a throwaway line about being down for the count for the foreseeable future. Yikes.
I’m starting to side with all the CBers who said she’d be phased out from public life. No one seems at all concerned as to where she is, that could be a point on W’s side for an eventual divorce.
That was my takeaway from this article too “wow, no one cares about her.” Like no one is even pretending to care about Kate as a PERSON. I mean, even I didn’t before all this mystery. I just like a good mystery. But now I also feel sadly for a person being written out this way.
I really hope all the secrecy is just because she’s in a residential treatment program. Though “rich woman develops eating disorder which led to serious health complications and will take an indefinite amount of time to cure” is hardly novel at this point.
They didn’t want another Diana situation. She was loved and admired and many people thought she had been wronged.
Kate doesn’t inspire that feeling (although rightly people are questioning what on earth’s going on)
There will prob be an announcement of her quietly passing then a low key funeral.
It’s been like an Agatha Christie mystery played out in real time.
The players will then resume without her and what really happened will be sealed.
And she won’t be talked about like Diana many years down the line. It’s sad.
“Kate seems to have been selected for her role of princess because she was irreproachable: as painfully thin as anyone could wish, without quirks, without oddities, without the risk of the emergence of character. She appears precision-made, machine-made”
“A jointed doll on which certain rags are hung.”
Hillary Mantel
I will say I haven’t seen a syllable about Kate on my TL from the public. Not one “thinking about Kate and hoping she’s ok” at all, except from derangers in the replies under a tweet about Meghan, and then its just a bunch of shaming and delusion about the couple who really matter. It is shocking but not surprising how everyone on earth was talking about Kate 6 weeks ago and now it’s as if she never existed.
@interested gawker great call back. Someone on these boards once called the Windsors “dry pieces of toast” and I’ve always remembered that. It was such a PERFECT description. How sad for a fellow human being, and what a waste of the gift of life and riches, that the most interesting they’ve ever been is when they’ve disappeared.
Kate can’t be wronged, every one tells us that William is a perfect husband and father.
Honestly, if it is anything other than DV related I have no problem with her planned obsolescence.
It’s almost like when a character just leaves a sitcom and is never mentioned or brought up again, as if they never existed (like Richie & Joanie’s older brother on Happy Days).
Interested Gawker – I think that’s part of the reason people here in the UK aren’t terribly interested.
They just accept what they’re told (cancer) because they’re not invested in Kate.
She was with William for 10 years before marriage yet never made a big impact on the public.
Diana had a handful of dates with Charles and everyone adored her.
The clown show was his fault and even people who weren’t fans of Kate were expressing real concern about what’s happened to her.
He’s clearly setting himself up as the stoic widower now – expect an announcement in a couple of months that she succumbed to her illness.
While the truth is altogether different.
And then he will be seen with a good friend who is comforting him
Absolutely
Liz ITA. Exactly what you said. I suspect she has been gone/incapacitated for a while now. I believe it is actually William in the fake Kate at the Farmer’s Market video. He is involved in a massive coverup I don’t believe anything William or KP says. Not one word. We need a real reporter investigating this since no one in the BM can or will do it.
Exactly side eye. It’s naive to underestimate the power these people can wield over others, including media, medical staff and a coroner.
They could even negotiate a deal with Kate’s family too for them to remain royal adjacent and close to George.
People in the rf orbit know what happens to those who don’t go along with the spin.
It’s absolutely chilling that what you’ve written is entirely possible.
I also believe that was William out with an assistant or security body double after the “random person who is a director but has a potato for a phone/camera” was tipped off, so they never said it was Kate. They confirmed the video. But they let everyone think it was Kate.
At the same time they also planted stories from people saying they saw Kate all of the time at sporting events and that the speculation was absurd.
And yet, Kate still hasn’t been seen outside documented by a legit photographer since Dec 25.
And something indeed was very wrong, even by their own admission with the“cancer had been present” video.
I suspect it was him too. That The Sun editor said on the record that KP knew about and was glad for Kate to be shown out and about just seemed too bold and no explanation or formal retraction has yet to occur. It would be much more outrageous to have William participate than be two actors and they don’t want that clarified.
“That speaks to his character, grit and determination to go out there and do the job that is expected of him. He has taken most of it on the chin and got on with it.”
Now they’re just openly effing with us. I can just picture some of Willy’s pals putting together that statement. “I know, I know! Let’s say he has shown character, grit, and determination!” Drunken laughter ensues.
100%
Well, yes. He’s shown his character – bad. He’s shown his grit – none. And he’s shown his determination – to do as little work as possible.
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“That speaks to his character, grit and determination to go out there and do the job that is expected of him.”
Exactly, Eurydice. It says it all, actually.
“he’s shown is determination to do as little work as possible” and to destroy his brother, with whom he cannot compete.
Except he is not doing his job.
Giddy – on April 30 in response to Kaiser’s headline that “Charles wanted to ride at Trooping the Colour”, I posted as follows
Charles is showing fortitude, great strength of character and real grit.
Coincidence, or plagiarism ?
We know they read here, so I’m going with plagiarism for $800, Alex.
After five months, we’re right back where we started: where is Kate?
I’m with you. Where is Kate? Also, Charles, who also has cancer, is out and about doing appearances. Why can’t Kate come out and do a joint appearance with him? They could spotlight a cancer charity….. It would get tons of PR, which is what they all live for….. Unless Kate is no longer with us?…
I don’t think we should let up on the pressure. I think they should stop trolling the public with frankenphotos and AI video statements. The public is not stupid.
I alternate between she’s sicker then they let on, or she is refusing to do anything because she’s had her clothing and hair allowances cut by W.
I think she’s “quiet quit” after some heinous event took place between her and Willbur. She’s holding out for a decent settlement before the divorce announcement goes out and keeping her cards close to her chest. But she’s got a royal flush in those cards and that’s what’s keeping the reason for her disappearance a secret until she gets what she wants or she’ll expose the whole filthy mess. I imagine both sides are lawyered up to the hilt.
@Seaflower and @Jaded, ITA that it’s likely one of the scenarios you mentioned. Most days, I tend to think she’s sicker than they’re letting anyone know, but then I remember that we can’t trust anything that comes from KP in the first place, so it absolutely could also be divorce negotiations. Who knows.
BUT how long can they drag this out and continue to get away with it? Won’t the public (at least the ones who are chronically online, and who determine— to an extent— what stories the MSM will cover, just like what happened when “#Where’sKate” went mainstream last time) revolt at some point? Not because they care about Kate personally, but because so freaking much is paid for her upkeep and then people don’t see her for (possibly) a year?? After their photo shenanigans were so publicly outed.
And because, quite honestly, so many people absolutely LOVE tearing into the palace and its incompetence (especially William), and will gleefully take the opportunity to demand some answers and make it into the scandal that it genuinely is again.
Plus, when you cut through all of the BS, there IS still a young mother who has essentially disappeared under some very mysterious circumstances. Sure, we enjoy making fun of her wiglets and buttons here, but I don’t actually wish her harm, for god’s sake, and I doubt the majority of the other commenters here do, either. We may not be fans of Kate’s, but we’re not monsters, ffs. We don’t believe what KP says because we’ve learned that all they do is lie, and as Kaiser said, something unsettling is clearly going on.
I know there are some people who think the posters here hate Kate and hope she’s dead, etc, and there may be a handful of outliers who feel that way, but I really don’t believe that represents the majority of us…I think most of us hope she’s okay, and just want to know the truth, because a Princess of Wales disappearing for months on end is WILD.
If the 75-year-old who is definitely “battling cancer” actually rides a horse @Trooping next month, I have to imagine the “#Where’sKate?” will start up again, because we’ve seen firsthand that there is a huge public appetite for dragging the palace when they’re trying to get away with obviously sketchy behavior. It’s been quiet for a while because they managed to smack down any and all criticism and deflect everyone’s questions with the C-word video, but that can only buy them so much time. There will come a point where people will start voicing their curiosity again, especially since Kate’s FIL is being so much more open about his own condition— at least compared to her. Everything having to do with Kate is still shrouded in mystery, and so much of what KP has put out or gone along with has been proven to be untrue. This can’t go on unquestioned for much longer, imo. At least I hope it can’t.
One of the articles said she’s been having chemotherapy. I don’t think there’s any great mystery to why she doesn’t want to be photographed…..
She’s lost her hair, and doesn’t want people to see her not looking her best. The car photo with Carol showed her with a bloated face and it looked like she was wearing a wig. A full one, not the hair extensions or clip on hair pieces she usually wears. She’s put on weight for whatever reason, medication, being tube fed, not being able to exercise…. That photo did not look like pippa as people said. I couldn’t see any resemblance to pippa whatsoever. It looked like Kate 10+ lbs heavier. Compare it to the photos of her on her gap year trip to chile, kayaking, when she was heftier.
She looked bad in the car-carole photo. I don’t think they would have manufactured a fake photo of her looking bloated.
MTE, while reading the comments. Where is Kate?
Not only where’s Kate, where’s Charlotte and Louie? They haven’t been seen since Christmas either.
So, you think they are missing? You suspect foul play?
I wouldn’t say they are missing, but I think they are being sheltered from outside influences. I don’t think the kids are with Kate, and we have no idea what has been shared with them about their mother. Do we even know if the kids are even in school? Everything is weird and strange.
I’ve been saying for a while that we will never see Kate as a public-facing royal again, and it’s starting to feel real.
If they were not attending surly something would have leaked out by now, all those children, some of them must talk to parents, and some would be happy to be famous for 15 minutes.
@Bren No one is or was missing. There mother has health issues. They were only dragged out for PR and are rarely seen outside of that.
Charlotte and Louie are being kept out of sight on purpose. I am actually surprised we’ve seen George, but he’s an heir so he has always received special treatment. William needs good PR, so yes it’s strange that we haven’t seen Charlotte and Louie since the Christmas stroll and the only new pics we have of them were taken last Fall the same day as the franken photo. If they wanted to give an appearance that the kids are fine, take new pictures of them. I’m just saying that it’s strange.
@Bren, remember though that from THEIR point of view, they have shared two “new” photos of Louis and Charlotte for their birthdays. Many of us don’t believe they’re new, and don’t believe they were taken by Kate, but KP will use that to show how, in fact, they *have* been giving the public what the wanted…or something. It’s all so shady.
No self reflection from KP or acknowledgement that they effed up. I’m predicting that Kate will not be seen until Christmas Day.
It would sure be nice to know what being a member of the royal rota got you because it is certainly not access to news.
I think they get access to news; they’re just not allowed to report it!
But isn’t that more frustrating than being kept in the dark in the first place?? 😩
They released a frankenphoto to the international press. And people rightly said wtf? That’s not Kate getting shit thrown at her. In fact, in regards to shit throwing, that’s what Jeremy Clarkson and the BM do Meghan.
I’ve noticed when googling that only the versions of events where the Wails are victims come up. Thats why they use these specific phrases, because now when that’s googled it will come up that this actually happened to Kate, not Meghan.
Same with bullying, etc. the only storied that come up are Kate claiming to be bullied in school and Kate and Charlotte supposedly being bullied by Meghan, when we know the truth is Kate bullied Meghan.
It’s pretty insidious. Clarkson violated Meghan when he wrote about wanting to throw excrement at her naked body in the street. And here’s KP saying shit was thrown at Kate bc…people said wtf after being lied to by a fake photo.
Jais , it is. They’re successfully rewriting history right in front of our eyes and it seems like not even the big news agencies care. If Harry hadn’t written Spare, this entire period of time would only be told from the Palace’s point of view.
And who can say Spare won’t be taken out of the history books in the future with some bogus claim, like Diana’s interview has been.
Someone should write a book on bad PR and every example could be anything Huevo has done since 2016. He really is so bad at this. No one wants Kate’s medical details; we just want to know that she’s alive! The whole thing gets stinkier by the day.
Notice the casual assumption that because the children have the summer off, the parents need the summer off too.
The reporter threw that in so casually, too. Just the facts, ma’am.
It’s INSANE. But the one thing W/K has done a good job with is making sure the public doesn’t expect to see them at all when their kids are off from school, no matter how long that vacation may be.
They’ve set expectations ridiculously low, and they’ve always gotten away with it, so they’re not about to change their MO.
no one was throwing shit at Kate. People were asking “where the hell is she and why is william dropping things and swaying at investitures” but no one was throwing shit at Kate. Even now, people are mostly just asking “where the hell is she?”
I do think this is the end of her time as a “working royal” and we’ll only see her for big events from here on out.
But what will happen to her center for early years?!
Who will make the pie charts and run the surveys? There’s got to be at least 5 more big questions that need asking!!!
Louis just turned 6. No need for the project to continue.
Becks – I don’t think we’ll even see her at big events anymore. Because if she’s not gone already (which is what I think), Willy will divorce her asap. He’s not going to want a mostly absent wife but still have to be married and act like a faithful husband to the public. If she’s still alive but not able to do the day to day “job,” she’ll be kicked to the curb so he can have a spouse who can ‘support him in his role’ OR so he can play the divorced and ready to mingle single dad.
Well obviously if they divorce she won’t be at major events. But I think even if there is no divorce, she will never be back as a working royal.
I think they will divorce once she gets the all clear as its obvs to me the stage is being set for that – she’s pretty much been removed from public life and we keep being told that its will be some time before she returns.
In order for William to properly compete with his brother and SIL he needs a spouse who he thinks can ‘outshine / outmatch’ Meghan – he knows Kate can’t.
I think she’s unwell and its more than just preventative chemo. Its also possible that she’s had a breakdown with all the stress.
@DU – agree with your second paragraph, have thought so for sometime. Will wants to be with someone who can compete with Meghan. It’s the obvious next step to big him up.
I can believe that Kate is or has been unwell, possibly had a procedure she’s been slow to recover from, and/or had some kind of mental breakdown. I’m not convinced she’s had even preventative chemo. It’s too coincidental given Charles situation. Throwing “cancer” out there was the one way to immediately shut everyone up asking questions about where she is, without needing to give more detailed information (or tell the actual truth).
Someone up above made a comment about them not wanting another Diana situation. This makes some sense. We know how far she is from any real Diana comparison, but so much has been put out there about what a rock/CEO/peacemaker/fashion icon Kate is, they may believe their own hype or think the public does, and are taking early steps to short circuit things. Hence, the timeline of any possible return to duties is constantly extended, possibly to prove permanent.
Honestly, if any sh*t was thrown, it was at Will.
I wonder if we’ll ever see her for big events unless it’s at a great distance. I’m starting to believe the coma/stroke recovery rumors are true, and she’s not recovering as well as they’d like.
@Becks: If Kate only crawls out for “big events”, all eyes will be on her. She will receive all the attention. How long do you think king Chuck will stand for that? Steal his spotlight?
He won’t stand for it at all! I also think that’s why we won’t see her at Trooping unless she does a few other events first. No way is Kate’s big public return going to be at HIS event.
People were asking “where the hell is she and why is william dropping things and swaying at investitures”
Thank you!! How is it they published those photos AND video of William off his face to that degree but no one took him to task over that day!!??
” grit and determination to go out there and do the job that is expected of him” my eye!!
I think if she does anything public it will be Wimbledon.
But I won’t be surprised if she isn’t seen until the fall. And at this point even that.
If we don’t see her at Wimbledon, imo odds are that we likely won’t see her in public again. She does NOT miss Wimbledon!
Keen has been missing for months. Meghan hasn’t set foot on Salt Isle for a long time. All we have is Chuck, Cam & Peg with a side dish of Pedo. How pathetic. And you know Peg isn’t going to work this summer. He has to take the kids to the pool or whatever.
The Pool Run.
Snort 😭
Maybe their swim instructor is a former Olympic athlete. He’ll be very busy with the pool run and completely unavailable to work, because those kids will be at the pool three times a day all summer long, lol.
Hopefully people are starting to see that it’s looking more & more like Kate is quite likely deceased. If she were really ill with cancer and undergoing treatment, there would be daily articles about the details & updates & praising her strength….blah blah blah. But instead: SILENCE about Kate. This doesn’t fit their pattern of behavior and that alone shows something is up. And that’s without getting into the looooooong list of weird, sinister shit that’s gone on this year that shows that something bad has happened to Kate, and it’s NOT what they’ve been saying it is. I really believe she’s dead. Expect an announcement about how she’s taken a turn for the worse, and then that she’s succumbed to her “cancer”—when there never really was any cancer.
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I agree she’s gone
I do think she has cancer, and I don’t think she’s gone already, but I do get the feeling that her cancer is more serious than they let on. I certainly hope that’s not the case, but I agree that it seems there is something in the silence.
I agree. I think she’s battling for her life.
GoodWitchGlenda, I didn’t think so before, but I’ve started to think that the cancer was unexpected and much worse than they thought. She’s probably undergoing some serious treatment. I may not like her, but I hope that she recovers.
I do think that she could be looking at her life and thinking about what she wants for herself going forward. Billy Idle may not be the only one who wants a divorce.
or she has mental well being issues.
OK, OK, I can – I am – buying that all is not as they are telling us regarding Kate but that she’s dead and they decided to try and hide it for five months?? Come on – that is off the charts crazy. WHY the hell would they go to the trouble? And getting the whole Middleton and Royal family to play along too? No. Just no.
I tend to go much simpler on Kate’s non-appearance since the cancer video (which I am also not buying is an AI fake btw). I think her preventative chemo is probably not doing her looks any good and we all know her appearance is of the utmost importance to her. Side effects of adjuvant chemo include weight loss, nausea, hair loss, mouth sores etc etc. She could be losing her hair, she could just look old and knackered and not want to be seen. Hell, I wouldn’t want to be photographed in that situation either never mind have the world’s media churning my image out.
I don’t think she’s dead either because even as despicable a cretin as Uncle Gary is, I don’t think he could pull of bouncing around on a reality TV show if his niece had been murdered. And if Kate died from cancer, there would no need to hide that, people succumb to that everyday unfortunately.
@TheHench agreed, its off the charts. It would require SO MANY PEOPLE playing along and KP can’t even release a mother’s day photo without screwing it up – but all off a sudden they are so competent they can hide a dead princess of wales for 5 months? The king is in on it? the supposedly dead princess’s family is in on it? EVERY SINGLE STAFF MEMBER at KP, Windsor, Adelaide, Sandringham, Anmer – they are all in on it? Every hospital worker? The children? Not a single person has leaked what would be the story of the century if its true? Where are her RPOs then – just pretending to guard a dead woman?
There are too many moving parts for them to hide a dead princess for months.
I think its likely that she is a lot worse off than they are letting on, and maybe isn’t able to do any public appearances, or maybe she looks like total hell as a result of the chemo so doesn’t want to be seen. And there may be a variety of other things going on behind the scenes as well.
But dead? No. There just really isn’t any reason to hide her death. I know some will say “well if William killed her they would hide it” but what’s the end game there? They just announce her death in July as a result of the cancer and forge the death certificate? So why didn’t they just do that in January and forge the cause of death?
She has lost her hair. I’m betting it is that and she doesn’t want her physical appearance scrutinized. That people think she is dead is bonkers.
I don’t buy that she’s dead either, @The Hench
No way that she is dead. Sick as a dog probably is more like it along with the stress of a disintegrating marriage. Billy Basher is not cutting her any slack – he is just like his father in pettiness, vengefulness, and passive aggressive behavior along with anger mangement issues. She and her mother are trying to negotiate all of this. Kate also knows that she cannot publicly call Billy out because it weakens her negotiating position with him.
@TheHench and @Becks, thank you for bringing some much-needed sanity to the conversation. The idea that she’s dead and it’s being covered up is simply batsh!t insane to me…as @Becks pointed out, these people are too incompetent to release a decent photo, but we’re supposed to believe they’re successfully presiding over a scandal of this magnitude? And to what end? Even if she was gone— which I don’t believe for a minute— and William is the reason, they could have announced her death at the time but protected Bill by lying about its cause, claiming an aneurysm or something.
Suspicion STILL hangs over the BRF over the death of Diana in 1997, and Charles knows it. There’s no way he would participate in something that could be so unbelievably damaging to the monarchy if ever brought to light. And TBH I don’t think that KFC cares about William enough to jeopardize his own reputation, quite frankly.
It is impossible that the number of people required to stay silent about everything they know in order to help the palace pull this off would be able to do so, especially when there is *a lot* of ££ to be made by telling the truth, even anonymously. People get drunk and talk, they can’t resist having the inside scoop on a big story and talk to impress others, whatever— but they always talk.
I agree with this. Are we being told lies. Sure. But they could not keep anything as serious as a death quiet because there are too many people involved for that to happen.
MisIam, I don’t believe she’s gone either; but the grifter baron of le bang bang, is certainly no weather vane for what’s going on with Kate. I think William banished him years ago, and Carol, being the social climber she is, likely had no trouble complying. It was probably an easy task given that Gary the kingpin’s money seems to have dried up a long time ago.
She may not be dead, but she isn’t moving around. I go the other way on the question of what’s easier to hide: a body or a living person. Obviously its the body. The people involved in responding to The Incident and her care would not know the entire story, but just what they needed to know and most would be under severe professional stricture, they’d lose their jobs and not be able to find another, if they talked. OTOH, if she was being treated for cancer, why hasn’t she been seen in a car, coming and going? Out for a walk etc. Maybe many people have seen her and are covering for her, but then you have the same problem as you see in hiding a body. I think hiding a living person, even if she wants to hide, is harder.
As big a narcissistic jackass as Will is, IMO not even he would have George out in public at a football game if his mother had just died. It’s the one thing Will is capable of understanding from his own experience. And George is even younger than Will was when he lost Diana. For this and the other reasons above, no, I don’t believe Kate is gone.
@Underhill it’s a big deal that Kate has not been seen moving around for four months. No one has seen her coming or going to any appointments. She hasn’t felt the need to get out of the house and take the kids for an ice cream cone on one of her good days or pop into the shops with CarolE for an hour just for a change of scenery. She’s just so committed to hiding that her parents and Charlotte and Louis decided to join her in the fun.
If Kate quiet quit the Royals due to a divorce then she went to Mustique and is hiding out there with the kids. If Kate is recuperating from a coma, then she’s doing it in some very private hospital probably out of England. But there is no way she is just biding her time in a self-imposed lockdown at Adelaide or Anmer.
@Harper, @Underhill
I think you’re thinking of what regular people would do, but this is Kate. For one, she might not go on any appointments, the doctors could be coming to her – much easier to fly an unknown doctor under the radar than Kate. The treatments can come to her, too, given the money – I’m sure all palaces have facilities for all but the most tricky procedures, and chemo is just an IV. I’m sure they can arrange even for toxic drugs to be safely transported to premises. As for ice cream on a good day, again, we’re thinking of regular people cooped up in regular houses or even small apartments, but they live on palace grounds. There is a lot they can do on a good day without ever leaving them: walk, ride, picnic – things that many of us have to travel to and/or pay money for are literally in their private backyard, so why risk exposure elsewhere (and I mean both PR and health exposure, chemo kills your immune system, she may be avoiding crowds of any sort for that reason, too).
It is like those AITA posts from a husband who goes on about how his wife cooks & cleans, but never says that he loves her.
‘Clean up in aisle 1A, all team respond’. The Wails image has taken hit after hit the past few years and nothing is going to recover it – not even their fave past time of blaming the Sussex’s.
As for Kate – yeah, she’s not coming back to public life, divorce roll out is ongoing and when the time is right it will be announced blaming her health and saying that this is the best thing for her. blah blah blah.
Although saying all that I sometimes think the stories about how Chuck is really ill is just cover for how ill Kate is. Deflection is part of the RF spin machine.
Does anyone remember the movie Dave? Where a lookalike was used to cover the fact that the President had suffered a stroke and was comatose? Where is Kate, and how is she? That’s not throwing shit, because no one wants her to be horribly ill.
OK, now I’ve got mental images of Kevin Kline in a bad wig, and, from the neck up, with the level of retouching we’re accustomed to, that could actually work.
Sadly, not for video, though.
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“throwing sh-t at Kate” by asking how and where she is?
Churlish of us plebes not to believe Will’s lies and fakes.
Well, I am crass enough to ask questions. Me and Columbo. “Excuse me ma’am–“
I’m still not buying that Kate is dead, simply because that is too big a secret that too many people would necessarily be aware of. Not to mention, hiding a dead princess would piss off literally everybody. Republicans and those of us who dislike Kate would cite it as proof that the RF are secretive ghouls who have too many protections. Those who actually support the monarchy and have a favorable opinion of her would be outraged by the disrespect of it all.
BUT…I think it is very much possible that whatever is wrong with her is terminal, and the lies and timeline fails and self-inflicted damage are all an effort to prevent the vultures from circling. We know the RF is willing and able to carry out that sort of operation, as they apparently did it with QEII’s cancer.
I am in total agreement. It’s just too huge a secret.
I feel like the Rota has been made aware, be it explicitly or not, that things are not well and they’re pulling their punches accordingly.
Yeah I gotta say, that’s kind of an insane conspiracy theory that she passed away. No way to hide that in this day and age. Most likely she’s under going treatment and in very poor health, maybe lost her hair, etc, and is camped out somewhere. I am no fan of hers, but she’s fighting cancer, my feeling is leave her alone. Maybe the whole world doesn’t need constant news stories about the BRF. Or turn that focus onto Andrew and his crimes.
I’m with you ; no way can you cover up the death of the POW . I also agree this is all about appearance. She has a carefully crafted image of the perfect princess who never steps a foot wrong. People have just quit caring about her. If you want to call that “leaving her in peace” then ok.
This was not aimed at you, Lucy2 but at the so called palace experts.
How does it benefit any of these people to “pretend K’s alive” if she already died? That’s flat-out nutty. If K had died, they’d be milking it for maximum sympathy to excuse Will’s laziness & divert attention from the pedo brother. Idk how sick she is, but Kate is hiding out for some reason, maybe having little to do with physical illness.
Are the kids being home-schooled now? If not, I imagine whichever house they return to after school is where Kate is lying low. Where does Willie sleep? Any evidence of regular visits by medical professionals?
If she has lost her hair she could wear a wig, or even just put on a baseball cap and show there is no need for others to hide because of hair loss,
I is not entirely impossible to pull it off. Think of Lalla salma of Morocco. Disappeared. For years now….
To the idea that they couldn’t pull off hiding her death: this is not a normal family. They are pretty much above the law. Look at Andrew. They do however have to maintain public approval. That is the why of it. If for example William did something to her or if she harmed herself, the public would be upset. Quite upset. Nothing like that could ever come out. If she isn’t seen all summer and fall, adn then they announce that she died of her cancer, what will you think then? You know they lie. It doesn’t really matter what we think. In the end, we will never know what happened to Kate.
But Miranda, if that’s the case, why not just come out from the very beginning and say she is dealing with a major health issue and will be focused on her treatment this year – don’t expect to see her.
Instead we got, she had minor surgery but is doing well and we’ll see her by Easter. Then it was HAD cancer but is getting preventative chemo but is doing well and feeling good (and this by her own mouth if the bench video is legit)…and you’ll see her soon/maybe by June. And then, nope don’t expect her for Trooping. And now it’s, well maybe she’ll be gone for the year with people speculating she’ll never return.
I know KP is run by a bunch of incompetent hyenas but, come on! If she’s sick then why not just say that from the start? How is this better? (Rhetorical questions.)
They literally came out and said she was dealing with a major health issue and wouldn’t be seen until after Easter. They never said it was a minor surgery – we were told it was abdominal and that it was planned. Never minor.
Look, KP has mishandled this from the start, there is no question about that, and I think there is something more going on behind the scenes (divorce process was started maybe?) But as a threshold matter, KP DID say she underwent abdominal surgery and would be off public duties for months. And then the cancer video in late March.
All you have described here is someone’s medical condition deteriorating. You go into surgery, you find something is worse than expected, and it continues to get worse. This is normal.
It’s worse because of the constant attention it generates. They said the operation was planned, the sensible thing to do would have been to talk about it before it happened and to explain what was likely to happen. She would have got everyone on her side as well.
Rosa, I hesitate to say what they “should” have done when discussing her medical care and diagnosis. Sometimes it takes a while to figure out whats happening.
Would it have been much better to say “POW is going through some health issues, we’re not sure what it is yet, could be cancer, could be nothing to worry about”? Or would that have generated as much if not more conversation? I honestly do think it’s best to wait until you know whats happening to announce to the world. Did they do a terrible job at it? Yes, of course. But I cant say I blame them, in a vacuum, for waiting.
I wonder if the video of her on the bench was her BUT was augmented with AI? Maybe she had a stroke and has difficulty speaking so they used AI to clean up the sound of her voice or make her face look as normal as could be? Just a thought I had the other day that maybe she is alive, but the reason we haven’t seen her is due to some physical issue that prevents her from presenting herself as the “perfect-princess” the BRF wants her to be.
Such as a colostomy perhaps and needing time and privacy to deal with a stoma bag? Anyone who has cared for some with a new stoma understands it takes a big adjustment and is not for the squeamish.
I’ve thought the same thing. It would explain the difference in professional opinion on whether AI was used. It’s not completely falsely generated. It’s 10000 frames stitched together into one smooth take.
Plus we can’t discount that the is this AI question was asked in such a way as to get the answers the palace/press wanted.
@Libra – I have a stoma and urostomy bag and you’d never know it. It doesn’t show under clothing. After one month I was changing it myself (a bit complicated) and after 6 weeks I’m out socializing, shopping and enjoying springtime on Vancouver Island. I tend to go with the idea that she did suffer some sort of traumatic medical issue, but also some kind of mental health breakdown after putting up with William’s notoriously temperamental and dismissive behaviour for 20 years. There are too many variables in this saga (e.g. William demanding a divorce) to even get into, and until the truth is out (which may never happen) she will continue to hide away while the rota squirrels and BRF continue to make up sh*t to cover up whatever William did.
I agree. I think people are seriously overestimating what “AI” can mean in this case. If you’re on TikTok, and use a filter or a voice filter, they label that as AI. Does that mean the video was made out of AI whole cloth? No. Perhaps the video was color corrected with AI? Perhaps the sounds birds chirping was removed? Just because the term “AI” is used doesnt mean its totally fake
Jaded: I am with you. We wll be debating “what happened to Kate” just as long as they debate what happened to the Princes in the Tower. We will never see her again, we will be told she died of cancer, and that will be that. And half the folks on this website and others will swear thats the truth and the other half will swear it isn’t. Only a few people know the entire truth.
@Miranda, co-sign. And IMO the reason KP has fcked it up to this extent is due to their arrogance— W&K resent the public and don’t think they owe people anything, let alone regarding their health, and imo they thought that the vague “abdominal surgery” announcement would suffice and people wouldn’t ask any further questions. Except obviously that’s not what happened, and because they’re KP, they’ve mishandled everything that’s happened since.
Lorelei, you and Miranda hit the nail on the head. Kate and William have always resented public attention into their private world.
CBers, I’d like to point out that we have a precedent about public announcements regarding Kate’s health in KP’s handling of her hyperemesis gravidarum issues. When she was pregnant with George, KP made announcements and updates and A LITERAL photocall with her adoring husband and a bouquet of daffodils. Then, the most pertinent reason for announcing her hospitalization was because her pregnancy had potential implications regarding the line of succession (whittle George’s health; I also hate that my point is tied to pregnancy and a patriarchal view of a married-in’s function within the palace systems).
They didn’t bungle it then. Fast forward to 2023-4, and they’ve done a complete 180. Just goes to show that they couldn’t think clearly enough to handle whatever happened to her in a sensitive and savvy manner.
There are several things they could have done in January that would have alleviated a lot of the doubt and weirdness and the thing is, none of those things involve Kate being seen.
William could have seen her more than once in the two weeks she was supposed to be in the hospital. Her parents visiting her. William visiting the London Clinic to say thank you to the staff. Stories released to the press about the kids making her get well cards.
And then in February (before presumably she started chemo) stage an actual photo. Not the edited car photo or the pic with Kate looking away or the Frankenphoto. (so this does involve Kate being seen). And then none of this speculation would have happened.
Yeah. Such great points. The kids making Kate get well cards in particular would have been such an easy score…
The lack of all of that struck everyone as off and then it was all aboard the speculation train.
“There are several things they could have done in January that would have alleviated a lot of the doubt and weirdness and the thing is, none of those things involve Kate being seen.”
I disagree. By not waving from a car or being seen leaving the London Clinic in the beginning the suspicion that something else was wrong as immediate and many rushed to the idea that something had to be visibly wrong with her face since abdominal surgery would not preclude this traditional royal leavetaking. The Sun initially told the public William visited her every day and the press were not staking out the area. Charles’ arrival disrupted KP’s narrative. If KP had intended to announce she’d been discharged without being seen Cam blew up their spot by camping out with the king and being transparent with the press to the point of sadism.
The fact that none of those common and expected PR like the children’s cards and recovery fluff happened is more proof that they cannot produce her. That is the issue. Kate does need to be seen to be believed and to date that has not come to pass. Kate needs to be shone in an unambiguous manner to the international media and general public with no involvement with Murdoch media. It protects the public as taxpayers who fund her lifestyle, protects her from the machinations of a spouse who has more power than she does and means going forward their is an agreement as to where she is healthwise should they update her status later.
I think the “get well” cards idea is overkill. That’s not what the BRF does for public consumption. This is not an ordinary family so it’s pointless to impute ordinary standards to them.
KP had the children draw cards for ‘Granny Diana’ that were published in the Daily Mail. The commodification of her convalescent period would have been inevitable had Kate (and her mother…) been in charge of her own illness, that why KP’s behaviour on her behalf rings so false. These are the not BRF standards I’m referring to, I’m talking about Kate herself. And the BRF absolutely 100% waves to the public upon entering and leaving stays in medical facilities as traditional proof of life. Absence of that at the beginning of all this, particularly because CIII was discharged ‘on the same day’ was a red flag things were shady.
Kate needs to be seen to allow the public an unvarnished status of her current condition. None of what has gone on, to date, in her name seems like her choice.
I don’t recall the cards for Diana, but I view that differently. Diana is deceased, so it’s a heart-warming gesture to capitalise on Diana’s popularity, which has a limit. I am well aware of relatives visiting sick royals in hospital, PP strings to mind. But he was on his last lap. Regardless, William would no doubt view publication of cards by the kids as an invasion of their privacy. As for imputing standards, the royal PR is better than it is given credit because there are a lot of posts here considering what their families would do as if the royals’ lives bear any resemblance to ordinary folk.
Shown grit and determination whilst brave!y carrying on?? KC had surgery and then chemo and is fighting to get back to work but FK? There was a crisis and he was needed to show up, steady the ship and carry on uncomplainingly. Instead he flounces off, we don’t know where and who with, but he was neither doing his public duty nor privately tending his wife or doing the school run. This article is just gaslighting everyone and is pure fantasy.
Yah. The rewriting of history has begun.
It boggles my mind that William is so egotistical he can’t see that the way to drum up public support is through Kate and her cancer journey – not his sense of martyred victimhood.
The problem for them is that Charles also has cancer but is very out and about. The public will eventually compare and contrast, and the rumor mill will start all over again.
It just shows how narcissistic he is that everything, everywhere, every time is about him. Wife is sick or dead or dying? Poor Willy, he’s stuck doing the school runs! The king has cancer? Poor Willy, he’s not ready to take the throne yet…he thought he’d have 20 more years to adjust to the idea! Brother and permanent third wheel/wingman decided to marry and have his own family? But but but what about Willy! His brother was supposed to do the actual work of the heir- and kingship so Willy could prune rose bushes and take vacations!
Won’t someone please think of poor, hard done by William, heir to the British throne?!
THIS EXACTLY!!!!! ^^^
He has (IMO) NPD. I have had experience dealing with people with this disorder and I can only imagine what a nightmare it would be to be around someone with NPD who is also a future King. The grandiosity of his ego must be insurmountable at this point and we are seeing it in real time as he has manipulated the suffering of others to be about him, demanding people praise him for nothing and show him sympathy when he is the vilian in the narrative.
Right?? The fact that the media enables William to get away with so much bullsh!t makes things exponentially worse.
If there was a true free press questioning what was happening here, William would need to be reined in to some extent.
But the stenographers print the exact nonsense on display in this article, allowing William to continue doing whatever the fck he wants, no matter how harmful it may be to the people around him, and to the monarchy as a trustworthy (lol) institution.
Every time I tried to feel bad for that woman three images popped into my head 1- when Meghan was at the polo game with Archie 2- the walk about after the Queen passed away 3- during the funeral when those three witches isolated Meghan. I just feel bad for her kids because that’s a lot of stress for them to see their mother going through whatever that she is going through.
I feel the same way as you.I want to feel sorry for her but somehow cannot.I feel sorry for her children though.
@Just Jade & @Kat – same. I don’t feel sorry for her, and I’m not going to bully/beg myself into feeling sorry for her. I read / reading comments here stating ‘she’s a bad person for putting MM through this and that, but she didn’t deserve this’. And I can see that point. And in no way does someone ‘deserve’ cancer, that is just evil. But I don’t feel sorry for her. Do not care what happens / happened to her, bar gossip-wise. I’ve had people like her in my life, and I’m done with giving emotions to people who do not deserve any (in my opinion).
I feel like this whole situation – just a general lack of questions on where Kate is, etc… – proves to me that she is 100% unimportant to the BRF. I mean, think about it, we had what? two weeks of people wondering where she was, that’s really it. For the most part, I honestly don’t think people were really questioning it because she’s never made much of an impact, she’s 100% forgettable and she is never consistent in her work load. It’s more time off than nothing. So it wasn’t really anything new that she would be taking a long break from “work” (using that work loosely) to recover.
But also, she has the privilege to. Not everyone does, but instead of having an honest conversation about that, it turned into “how dare you question this white woman” “leave Kate alone! Her life is hard, etc…” I truly hope she is okay, and honestly, during those two weeks (at most) of everyone questioning where she was, it was mainly (like 90-95%) harmless. Because honestly people really don’t care.
The thing is, because the media is ignoring any reporting of her (at the Royals behest), yes, she has become unimportant. They do the same with other ‘unimportant’ family members. It just shows how much the RF (Charles, Camilla and Egg) NEED the press and media to BE important. If only someone would break rank and disclose what’s really going on. But the Government will never allow that to happen because they are happy with the status quo.
This is more than “just” cancer. Kate is being silenced and sent away having negotiated a financial settlement to ensure she disappears and not give interviews or write a book about what a horrible abusive man she’s married to. In a few months, there will be a statement that she has independently made the decision to quietly retire from public life and therefore it is best that she be allowed to divorce William (not the other way around) so he can have the kind of partner required for his kingly responsibilities. William will somberly agree to her request, move on with his life, and wish her the best. Mark my words, that’s the spin that will come in time.
This makes far more sense than the Kate-is-secretly-dead theory.
And it occurs to me that this is one more reason Meghan is keeping her distance. She’s a feminist and woman’s woman and she likely doesn’t approve of the disappearing of Kate, no matter how horrible Kate has been to her (and Kate was the WORST). Meghan is innately decent.
@Ann “Kate is being silenced ” – 100% . I would add and being sidelined along with PW & PH +Meghan
It’s imperative that KC3 & Wife take centre stage without any one else diverting the attention away from KC3.
Again, I don t believe Kate has cancer – She said cancer “was said to be found” -after the procedure – statement was in past tense. She now undergoing ” preventative treatment” She however may truly be ill or DV or MH but cannot come out to say this as everything will lead back to PW / KC/ BC and poetry them in a bad light.
With the Cancer narrative , well it has no respect for colour, creed, race or gender.
Putting out this statement is to ensure no questions are asked as to her whereabouts.
@Ann, I hope so hard that there is an (extremely) unexpected plot twist coming and that Kate does in fact decide to pull a Diana and write a book or do whatever she needs to in order to make her story public.
If Kate has in fact been diagnosed with terminal cancer, there’s a possibility that she rethought all of her life choices and how her children will be affected going forward. I know the chances of this happening are slim to none, but one can hope.
I would give my eyeteeth for a “Kate: Her True Story”-style book or memoir.
They’re still photographing her through a lens filter, interesting. So much for “she’ll be back by Easter.”
The Times said she won’t be back for a long time. Her return is slipping into the far future.
Maybe Kate is visiting Shelly Miscavige.
Interesting. I mean, if the tiny king of Scientology can disappear his wife, surely the loser heir can too?!
That was literally my first thought. It feels very Shelly miscavage and she’s still not independently confirmed as being alive anywhere. I don’t count the one police visit, there’s no reason for me to start believing cops.
It all makes her sound gravely ill meanwhile William is like “me ! me ! me !” as per usual.
Slightly off kilter, I saw a Kate magazine the other day, I don’t think it was a People edition. The cover was labeled the Kensington Edition, Kensington Palace Edition? A quick leaf through found some gushy quotes from Catherine Zeta Jones, Gywneth Paltrow and Olivia Munn. Awww, it can’t be denied KM is a celebrity. Olivia Munn?! Rolled my eyes and said to my self, “Self, the Kensington (Palace?) Edition?!”
Tinfoil tiara – So I find it very suspicious that Tom cruise was very chummy with the royals in the past year especially William. The heir to the British throne being a Scientologist will be a very big get and William is very susceptible to suggestion. What if this whole debacle is a ploy to disappear Kate and replace her with a Scientology approved wife
Unlikely. Will’s too cheap to give the Scientologists the money they’d expect + he’s supposed to succeed daddy as head of C of E.
Also Peg is used to being the top dog. If he joined Scientology, he would be ranked below Tom Cruise, lol.
That would require William have some sort of spiritual/religious beliefs and he doesn’t have them. He is ambivalent about those sorts of things.
William isn’t interested in the church of England.
She is dead IMO Maybe because she likes to SWIM AT NIGHT??!!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/kate-middleton-little-known-hobby-32658172.amp
Maybe William is showing Kate if she fights the divorce He could kill her off and the media, her family and his subjects would cover for him. All these stories about a coma, cancer, even the swimming at night story are meant as a threat to get her to concede on the settlement. Maybe she is still fighting the divorce terms, took.Charlotte and Louis and left as a bargaining chip.
It’s like Willie doesn’t think journalism exists outside his little country. He may be able to control what’s printed locally, but that’s as far as his influence extends.
Fighting for a better deal in the divorce or separation is what I’m thinking now also, in addition to whatever happened/is still happening.
I think that too. Her disappearance is suspicious but I don’t think Chuck and Cams would put on a show “Look how well WE are handling illness compared to those young lazies”. I think the whole family would try to show concern etc. Also, do you think Carole would let it go quietly if it was horrific DV and W would seriously hurt Kate? As toxic as she is, this is still her daughter… IMO it looks like “see, we can fade into the background if paid sufficiently”.
Will should have stayed a bachelor and NEVER gotten married. Everyone close to him struggles and suffers and that he can no longer torture Harry is another reason he is miserable. Horrible man.
I refuse to speculate about Kate. Cancer sucks and we have no idea what she’s dealing with. I imagine some will disagree and that’s fine.
I don’t disagree with you at all. It’s cancer. And she’s ill. I sincerely think they never expected this. I’m not sure whether she’d readied her own mind adequately for this eventuality, or whether it came as a total shock to all, including her medical team (which, if true, I don’t understand) but they seem to have gone into themselves. Which is fine.
I don’t disagree, either. When one has cancer, 4 months isn’t that long a time to be out of commission.
I think everyone battling cancer has their own journey. Both my parents had it: one needing radiation (which I suspect KC has been doing considering his appearances by car and recently in public) and the other needing chemotherapy which was horrific and took over a year to recover as one series of treatment led to more. Chemo is no joke and the physical and mental side effects are debilitating. I suspect Kate is struggling and the scrutiny of appearing in public would be too much to handle as she’d be picked apart. I think she needs to be left alone and not have conspiracy theories thrown around.
@Kate – ‘I think she needs to be left alone’ – with all due respect, why? Did she leave MM alone when she was struggling with suicidal ideation whilst pregnant?? Did she rectify any incorrect stories so that the impact against MM might be reduced even a little bit? Why should someone show another person kindness when that other person never lent the same courtesy to others?? I don’t know, I don’t have much faith anymore in being the better person. On this same website, I’ve read ‘democrats need to wake up and fight dirty like the republicans, else republicans will win again’. But why, in this case, not serve it back to kate like she served it initially. (Note – this comes after years of being f*cked over by others, so pardon my jaded, hissing self)
I hope the blogger behind What Kate Wore is making plans to shift her business model and to start a nee business. The minute they announce Kate is retiring from public life that blog will basically die.
Make no mistake the rf could and would collude in a cover up at the highest level.
They were blindsided by what happened – loss of temper, an eruption that left Kate at the very least incapacitated.
Charles suddenly having cancer so that if need be Wills can step up and be immune from prosecution.
They killed the much loved Diana – her courtier brother in law was in Paris on the night she died unbeknownst to his wife. Switching off the tunnel camera.
The inquiries were nothing more than a whitewash. Even her sisters and sons stopped questioning it.
People who do tend to have ‘accidents’. They know the enormous power this corrupt globalist family wield.
Liz, or it could be that that she has cancer and it’s much worse than the public have been told. She could be going through serious chemo and her appearance would be affected. I think this is possible, and I also think that she could be wanting a divorce, too. Having a serious medical issue that could end badly has a way of making you take stock of your life. She may want more for herself.
I say this as someone who doesn’t like Bone Idle for all of the reasons that we all know about. I have no desire to wish anything bad on her, however.
‘Proof of life’ is not some demand to skewer KP, accusing them of literally hiding her death or to suggest Kate has no legitimate health issues. The fact remains that she has not been seen in an unambiguous manner since Christmas 2023. If there is an announcement to inform the public of a turn for the worse in her health we the public are not in a position to know when that truly occurred. I was gratified and relieved to see George in public recently. The heir is sound. I saw that through media sources that verified that outing to be true and witnessed independently in real time by the public. I demand no less for the POW who KP has contorted itself to insist ‘is fine’ the public have a right to know Princess Catherine is fine by seeing her for the first time since last year. Not to gawp or be derisive but a genuine need to see she is safe and making her own decisions about why she has been out of the public eye. Privacy serves William, not Kate. Cancer is difficult but it doesn’t remove people entirely from life as its lived. BM insist they have the right to see Meghan when the POW hasn’t been seen in over 130 days. That is unacceptable. A proper news conference with a wide variety of non Murdoch media is important. It’s the time tested way this sort of thing has been managed for decades.
Saucy&Sassy – I too don’t wish anything bad on her. But sadly I feel
It’s already happened.
Liz: all true. I think the reason people who love the royal family (and I loved the old queen, silly as that is) love them, is because they can see hints of just regular people among all the pageantry. Look they’re just like us, they say. Almost like an alternate family. Nice and Normal. But they aren’t really a family though they are related by DNA. They are definitely not just like us. And they do not live normal lives, they are not normal people. They are a very powerful firm, one that is above the law in Great Britain (Andrew, for example). People forget that. They work hard to make people forget that.
The same blogger has What Meghan Wore.
Different bloggers. They’re affiliated sites, but the bloggers are transparent about their identities on their sites.
Proof of life.
It’s long past time to provide proof of life for Princess Catherine.
I genuinely have no idea how that can even be done at this point. I’m an intermediate Ps user and could use the new Ai features to put Kate in any number of current photos (perhaps providing humanitarian aid in Gaza?)
She absolutely has to be in a public setting with known entities (Dr Biden?) who can verify her existence with no bias.
It would be easy IMO. she is seen, photographed, videod by credentialed media from major wire services. There is zero legit reason based on their own story for why this hasn’t happened already.
They can simply do it the old fashioned way, a news conference with international press. She can read a statement from a piece of paper and answer limited questions, vetted by the palace before hand if they want.
We know Charles’ ‘Whatever love means’ happened. The world’s media broadcast that interview. We know Diana’s ‘There were three in this marriage’ happened. We know she was interviewed by Martin Bashir and the interview was produced by Mike Robinson with cinematography by Tony Poole. We know Prince Harry standing in a stable block gushing over his newborn son happened. (As well as the BM being hopping mad to be denied the Lindo presentation and whining about it bitterly after the fact) We could verify that the subjects were interacting in real time with other people and witnessed by the reporters as well as the crews filming. We know Kate was last seen definitively in December. Members of the general public as well as the media saw her on Christmas Day 2023.
KP engineered fake versions of both these kinds of situations -the farm video, the cancer video, but the squirrelly secretive behaviour around both of them shows why the traditional way is preferred as unambiguous. The farm video and cancer video are ‘closed set’ situations with no outside real time interaction on ‘Kate’s’ part. The date and time cannot be verified by others. There is no interaction with a independent entity not beholden to KP. Basic proof like the production credits of the participating crew working for BBC Studios not made available to the public. The Sun said point blank KP worked with them and knew about the farm shop video, owned by the same media organization that owns NY Post and has an undisclosed deal over the phone hacking with Prince William.
A public setting with know entities used to be the default, the normal way of doing things. KP is using smoke and mirrors to pretend they complied in the usual manner when they have not.
Yes to all. It has to be a public event with trust press and attendees. We know that those aforementioned things happened because we lacked the technology to fake them back then. Until 20 years ago, proof of life could be proven with a picture of today’s paper. Now a five year old could fake that on their phone.
The public appearance has to involve someone beyond suspicion of contributing to this farce but who has met and engaged with Kate under “typical” circumstances. I’m voting for the Obamas, Dr. Biden, or Michael Sheen (because he would never shill for the BRF).
‘William… attended several public engagements’. What ‘several’ engagements? Do the English define ‘several’ differently from Americans? BAFTAs, party with Tom Cruise, investiture, day drinking with a TV star…and what else?
The definition of ‘several’ is:
“more than two but fewer than many.”
So it’s correct. The word sounds so much like the number seven I think people often attach a higher group number to the concept as a determiner.
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@InterestedGawker, LMFAO 😭
I can’t speak for Brits but large swaths of Americans uncritically absorb whatever crap their favorite media source slings. Rewriting history is not very difficult for those with a platform, sadly.
Thank you. We are seeing that and have seen it in both countries. Trump isn’t sleeping on the courtroom, his eyes are “resting.”
Brought to us by the NYT.
Absolutely people with power rewrite truth and cover up crimes. Every single day.
My absolute last straw with trusting the NYT happened the day Epstein died. The initial headline ran “Epstein Found Dead.” Within an hour (maybe less), the headline was updated to “Epstein dies from Suicide.” Not event “apparent suicide.” This is well before a coroner’s report. Paper of record my A**.
Bettyrose: Yes. There is for most people a presumption of normality. Its very difficult to break. That’s why, when people hear gun shots,, they don’t believe it at first. Can’t be. Must be something else. In Medicine there is a saying: when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras. Horses are more common and common things happen commonly. The real problem, after practicing a few years, is that a zebra could kick you in the head, and you would still be looking for a horse. Sometimes bizarre things do happen. Most people won’t realize it until its long over. And the NYT is over, as far as I am concerned.
Years (decades?) ago there was a Cuban boy whose mother died in her illegal attempt to bring him and herself to American for a better life. Some felt the boy should stay, and so me thought he should be returned to his father in Cuba. What I distinctly remember is how there were “legit” news agencies referring to the American woman who was holding him in Florida as his “surrogate mother.” It was the first time that I realized news agencies have real agendas that mean more to them than reporting news in an unbiased manner. I wasn’t even against the boy staying in USA, but imagine of they called the woman his “kidnapper”? It was the lack of integrity that stood out to me. It’s been downhill ever since.
I remember that case. It’s a good reminder to regard the language, the labels used, to be conscious of them and of the agendas present.
A senior member of the Royal family hasn’t not been seen or heard from since December 23 . William and Kensington palace have been acting like a bunch of a bully this whole thing in motion they have photographed a image of Kate with the kids they have set fake public outing with Kate with a double to manipulate the public. And now they basically saying Kate will never be seen again . They are trying to rewrite events to make William look good and to make people genuinely asking what going on with Kate into nutty conspiracy theories people .
I feel like it was the real Kate who gave the video cancer speech. Lots of soft lenses and soft lighting, but the real Kate.
But even if that’s true, that isn’t a documented sighting.
BBC Studios won’t give details about that video. There is no reason why she hasn’t been seen and documented by legit, on the record photographers.
I have no idea what’s going on and I’m not convinced either way about the bench video, but I can absolutely say that what they’re doing isn’t normal and doesn’t follow from their own narrative about preventive chemo.
Honey. I feel the same. They always gauze her videos. Vanity by and large – it hides the skin. This was more blurry than usual, but it’s her. IMO. She must be exhausted to have stipulated such a hazy video – I found it hard to focus on her properly.
Honey, the only thing I can focus on in that video is that she suddenly became an accomplished orator. I’ve not seen a video of her prior to that one where she spoke fluidly.
I dispute that but the fact remains even if that video was legitimate it still is not ‘proof of life’. The time it was filmed, even the place where it was recorded is not a matter of public record and therefore cannot be proof of her well being. The Mothering Sunday photo not only proved KP was willing to use deceptive tactics to fool the public it was not the first time they did it. There are no production credits for it available to be viewed by the media or the public and no way of verifying it is what it purported to be -Princess Catherine at Windsor. The background flowers are static even as ‘light’ changes in that backdrop. (Go on, chose a bloom behind her and lay a stylus or pencil point on it, keep watching…). The background is digital. Some people were left believing she was actually in a garden. That might have been recorded in a studio no where near Windsor, we have no way of knowing, no accountability. BBC Studios is independent of BBC News, that means the public cannot demand answers or clarification. It’s proof of nothing.
Interested gawker, you are right about the daffs, they don’t move. It has been faked, we were led to believe that she was out in the garden. Daffs are top heavy, they sway in the gentlest of breezes. I’m not saying that it isn’t her, but we have been mislead, again!
I watched that thing frame by frame, and I was struggling to understand the things her fingers did. IMO, its not real. And, AI is a lot better than people are giving it credit for and getting better rapidly.
^^ Exactly @Underhill. Witness the fake Tom Cruise videos with Paris Hilton.
Please stop with the proof of life, and even worse have been the comments about safety checks for their kids. She’s ill. However, I’m beginning to think she’s on a longer back-to-health road than most people ever imagined. Whatever was going on with her must’ve been exhausting. I suspect it’s been a slow and long build to an emergency situation followed by something unexpected. I can’t quite work out how unprepared for this eventuality the consultants seem to have been, though? I think bowel re section which caused an emergency and then found cancer. Surely some scans would’ve seen it or some biopsies at an earlier date. To get to an emergency situation seems to indicate all assumptions flew out the window. How could that not have been foreseen as a potential outcome? Anyone? Thanks in advance. Sorry for ramble. I’m cooking alongside!
I’m typing to myself here, which is often the case. I suppose it could’ve been something like polyps, which didn’t seem serious but became serious and fast. I’m really not sure. Then taken for biopsies at surgery. Others on here know far more than I about this condition/s.
Whilst I hope Kate makes a full recovery, I don’t ‘feel for her’. She’s lived a charmed life that she has never earned. Her family are a bunch of scamming grifters, the mother chief one amongst them, who ensured she married the future King, no matter the cost to Kate or others.
Kate lives in unbridled luxury on other people’s money and has had 5 months off, and continuing, without having to worry about paying a bill, whilst she is subsidised by taxpayers. If this was someone on benefits the public would demand they return to work.
No one has the right to expect good luck will last forever.
sparrow, I’ve posted under this several times, because I’ve become to think that the cancer was unexpected and worse than has been reported. She’s going through serious chemo treatment, which probably impacts her looks. She could actually be feeling really unwell. Why the palace couldn’t just put out a statement that states that she’s very ill, but a good prognosis and she’ll have a very long recovery, I don’t know. Probably because it makes sense.
I have to say that I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she wants the divorce at this point. She may want some peace in her life going forward.
Thanks, Saucy&Sassy. I remember from weeks and weeks ago that you posted about having had a similar possible, because we don’t know what’s really wrong with her, initial emergency and abdominal surgery and how painful everything was for you. I hope I’ve got that right. I simply can’t understand why this outcome wasn’t on the table as one of many for Kate. They seem to have been blindsided. I feel for her.
Sparrow, yes you’ve got it right although I was back to work either 6 or 8 weeks later. I’ve come to believe that EVERYONE was surprised about her cancer. What makes me think it’s worse than reported is the obvious chaos surrounding her. KP or Billy Idle has tried to cover that up, perhaps because that’s what she wants? Who knows, but I really think that they were shocked and didn’t know how to handle it. It makes me think the doctors were as shocked as anyone.
In the absence of information, misinformation will fill the gap. I think that KP and the British media have really failed Kate by allowing all of this speculation to fester. All of the speculation, ridiculous or serious, must have been excruciating the experience (if she’s actually conscious), and completely unnecessary. And for her to be thrown under the bus for the frankenphoto was even more insulting.
The KP staffers have earned my moniker of headless chickens–they careen from one story to another in a way that’s demeaning and belittling. For all of her passivity, what has she gotten in response? A public image that veers from her being infantalized to being forgotten. That can’t feel good. She has effectively been disappeared and no one seems to care. The Kate has cancer tape has not only silenced the critics–it has ominously silenced her. Out of sight, out of mind. The longer she goes without being seen, the more the public gets used to not seeing her. She’s gone from: OMG where’s Kate?? to Kate? Oh yeah…she’s been gone a long time, hason’t she? Anyway–
What’s next? “Oh yeah, the Princess of Wales! Totally forgot about her!” That’s a terrible position for her to be in. She can disappear completely and no one really cares, least of all her husband, it increasingly seems.
That’s a brilliant analysis, lanne. And I agree. Kate’s been hung out to dry by her family and courtiers and PR; they’ve even robbed the woman of her hobby as legit family photographer. One thing, though – I suspect there will be a HUGE reaction to her re entry into public life. She’s fallen to zero in the public consciousness but it will rise to fever pitch when she reappears. This is my forecast. Also, she’ll have sympathy for years to come.
@Lanne, agree with @Sparrow, excellent comment. And it makes me sad for Kate, regardless of the awful things she may have done in the past.
@Sparrow, we always hear about how the BRF has detailed, long-term plans for any contingency, complete with code names— didn’t they even “rehearse” the Queen’s funeral a few times in the middle of the night, just to make sure everything was perfect?
Yet you’re right, when it came to…whatever is going on with Kate, it seemed to catch them totally off guard, with absolutely no fallback plan. And in the absence of any script, KP proceeded to handle every aspect of the whole thing as poorly as possible.
It’s insane that it would never occur to them to prepare for a senior member of the RF possibly becoming seriously ill at a young age, but that’s seemingly what happened. Everything they’ve done has come across as reactionary, and overall it seems like they’ve been totally winging it since January, flying by the seat of their pants, defending themselves of any allegations as they pop up, with no real plan whatsoever for how this will play out. They’ve really dug themselves into a hole here.
I agree — I don’t think she’s deceased, but in a vegetative state or seriously incapacitated. It’s the only way an alive human person can literally not be seen or heard from in months. The fact that KP is working SO hard with the staged videos and photo fails and pretending everything is fine (!) to protect W says it all. I think she’s been hidden away at Anmer or Wood Farm since December.
And if that is the case a press conference with medical professionals should be the way forward. They should show Kate, groomed and dressed for public view in an appropriate manner (wheelchair, bed) and then have doctors explain condition and prognosis with her off screen.
That would show up all of KP’s previous attempts to quash the information as the lies they were but I can imagine the public would be understanding as to why William went to such lengths for privacy’s sake. It would also give the children space to live their truth rather than have to pretend ‘Mummy’s fine’.
I agree with this take. She’s just not the type to plot and scheme for a better divorce deal, and obviously CarolE is a crap businesswoman, beholden to Bully for her very house. She’s completely out of it somewhere, either because of post-op complications from whatever went down 12/28/23 or because whatever happened itself incapacitated her. As an RN I know the most unexpected small things can cause devastating damage. A woman can trip over a suitcase on the way to visit her first grandson and ended up a quadraplegic, a tear in the esophagus from bone can lead to months and months on a ventilator in a medical coma, etc. Or you could be married to a violent prick of a husband, we all know how that can end.
“Or you could be married to a violent prick of a husband, we all know how that can end.”
And that happens a lot more than people care to think about or admit. It’s common as dirt, still, domestic violence is.
many psychics (which you may not believe in, but I have seen a few uncanny cases where they couldn’t have known what they dreamed about etc) describe her as being in a space between life and death.
I dislike them both as much as the next person, but she has cancer. It’s a pretty big deal and it can take years to get back on your feel fully and that’s if you’re lucky.
Yes. It’s blindsided her, I’m sure. I have empathy for her, despite my feelings not being positive. And yes she should’ve had lots of empathy for her struggling sister in law.
Same. Kate’s behavior toward Meghan was horrific and unforgivable— but I still feel very sorry for Kate right now, because the fact that she was awful to Meghan doesn’t mean that she in turn deserves the same cruel treatment from the palace because they view women as disposable and think they can get away with whatever they want.
(FWIW, my guess would be that Meghan also feels sorry for Kate right now as well, because she’s a decent person, and Meghan more than anyone knows how overwhelming and terrifying it can be when the machinery of the palace is turned against you.)
I don’t think Meghan feels sorry for Kate
May be if Kate had not taken those threatening steps to Meghan on the walkabout Meghan might have worked up some sympathy
Meghan saying, ‘they won’t tell the truth to help my husband, but they will lie to protect William’ has been on my mind. Unless Kate has been at deaths door from the get-go, and I sincerely hope not!!, then I don’t understand the need for this level of secrecy around her health. We were speculating last year that William had benched Kate, but maybe William is the one who’s been benched from representing the UK (since he went to Poland I think), and he in turn has benched her from the few things he is allowed to do, like Earthshot, to make it less obvious. Suddenly Charles mentions Willy going to D Day remembrance but all year he said Camilla would step in. Willy hasn’t even been seen with Charles since Christmas. Could the extent of Kate’s illness be hidden in order for Willy to have an excuse why he is rarely seen? IDK, just trying to make sense of all of this. Also, if you google kate middleton surgery Italy, there is talk that the trip to Italy was a cover for Kate to have her surgery there after they made planned appearances.
KP is the Gang that Couldn’t Shoot Straight. The thought that they could engineer an elaborate cover up including AI technology and photoshopping is beyond the realm of possibility. So if not KP then who? Is Kate really that important in the scheme of things that the big guns were called in to help? I keep trying to figure out why and who.
It isn’t beyond the realm of possibility, they have been doing it this whole time, not even well. Charlotte’s recent birthday picture is as laughably manipulated as the Frankenphoto. You don’t have to be a criminal mastermind, they haven’t even changed their mode of working; bot activities on SM, using intimidation and legal tactics to keep the press at bay, relying on the general public not questioning things or paying attention to diametrically opposed media claims.
All they have to do is brazen it out. If the truth comes out, two, five, ten years down the line will it matter? They kicked the can down the road in the short term. I’m sure for William that feels like winning.
KP has not provided the POW to interact independently with media or the public while lobbing provable fraudulent images to the media pretending that she is well and ‘there’s nothing to see here.’ That is happening even as we sit reading this. There is no push back by the media, no clarification of their position, no retraction of the farm video no accountability no way of knowing if princess herself is making her own decisions about not being seen. Privacy serves William and the BRF is the establishment. They are the ‘big guns’.
I agree with you and the points you make @Interested Gawker. And Liz, K-Peace, WiththeAmerican, SussexWatcher and many others. They are LIARS. Something has happened. Privacy served William. I read an article yesterday (I will go back and find it) that said William feels like he can “breath” now after the AI cancer announcement and is “relieved”. All of this is about protecting William. I’m not buying any of their lies. Their mode of working is the same like you said and they have the British press and army of BOTS promote their lies and attack anyone that go against their lie narratives.
They are protecting William. Not Kate.
Agree, Julianna. And agree with everything you posted above. William is at the epicenter of Kate’s absence since December 25th.
So I do not think she is dead-simply too much time has passed and as many others reasonably point out-in this day and age keeping a dead princess under wraps would involve way too many people.
I thought the cancer video was quite suspect as I was watching it being broadcast the first time. Highly edited? AI? I’m not knowledgeable enough to say but it was “off”. The fact that no one from BBC Studios will lay claim to it speaks volumes-I actually would have thought KP would have picked someone from BBC Studios to confirm it after their frankenphoto debacle. So why didn’t they? Did BBC Studios refuse to?
Her family: mom and dad have all but disappeared (mom in the fake car picture aside), brother and sister surface once on vacay outside of UK. If they are being paid for their silence, why all the shady articles about Party Pieces debts resurfacing? The family component makes no sense to me at all, no good explanation there, imho.
I have thought from the beginning Huevo did something to her to the extent she cannot be credibly seen in public. Physical? Maybe, but I don’t know how long serious facial injuries take to heal. Mentally? While none of us here seem to like her, we’ve most all acknowledged she has been unwell for at least a year-ED, mental health and general appearance-and that many of us think she needs some sort of help/treatment and that Huevo/their marriage is part or the whole problem. So maybe she’s in a clinic long term for some sort of treatment?
A coma or severely incapacitated is starting to make the more sense to me, and that they are protecting Huevo at all costs. But incapacitated and/or at a long term treatment clinic would require a lot of people to keep quiet too, no?
Nothing adds up here, frankly other than for some reason she cannot be seen, cannot physically appear somehow, in public. Otherwise, after all this time and Charles out and about, being fairly transparent about his condition, surely KP would really want her to be seen? The cancer video only quelled rumors and speculation for 2-3 weeks. Now it’s all ramping up again and basically radio silence from BP, KP and UK press.
I have had bad vibes about this from the start. The whole situation grows darker by the day. Hopefully those 3 young kids are well cared for-and not by incandescent Huevo.
“But incapacitated and/or at a long term treatment clinic would require a lot of people to keep quiet too, no?”
Not if she’s at Sandringham or Balmoral. They could certainly have medical staff caring for her there and requiring their silence.
But surely some activity would be reported? I doubt that the medical staff are “living in” on private residences.
I’m not sure of the public access at the private residences, but I think that someone, such as a gardener or other outside worker might have leaked something. They have to get their garbage collected!
She aged ten years in Q3-Q4 2023. I think the woman is incredibly ill and I think that they knew that when she went in for surgery. In my opinion the lies to the press were to buy her time…
.I don’t actually think that she has to disclose anything or appear anywhere if she is ill.
I loathe the monarchy but this is a woman with three young kids. In all likelihood she wants to spend as much time with them as possible and away from public scrutiny.
Kate hasn’t aged 10 years. She’s always looked older than she really is. They just photoshop her pictures all the time and she gets constant retouch on her botox and fillers.
Those children are raised by nannies, they are not regular children who would rely on their mother for almost everything. As far as I’m concerned, the less time they spend with the grifting Middletons, the better. They certainly wouldn’t encourage them to have any kind of work ethic. William hanging around the Middletons in his youth with no sense of responsibility is what has done him in and made him the lazy sod that he is today.
I think she is very unwell and all the Brit press knows it. Whatever it is she and her family have gone underground.
They seem to really want to Manipulate the public to forget about K. For example, they’re hoping after a while people would just forget about her. Who are they kidding.
If this happened anywhere else(outside the UK), there would be many people who would be very vocal and demand to know what’s the real story – rightfully so esp if you’re paying Taxes for these people.
Anywhere except Iran, North Korea, etc.
They are actively demanding it, the language around William’s appearances are ‘trying to move on’, ‘ambushed by cards’ as if it’s an imposition to ask after her health or offer her good wishes. The recent video they made a point of releasing has KP’s plant timidly asking if she can ask how his wife is doing and he elides her by saying ‘we’re all well’. If the POW is ‘well’ and ‘the woman in the farm shop’ then it behooves KP to prove this to the public before they make doleful, sad announcements on her behalf about how ‘she’s taken a turn for the worse’.
The one comment I saw repeated under the farm video on TMZ (that was roundly drowned out by viewers who didn’t think it was her) was ‘now you’ll have to give up your conspiracy theories’. That is pretty plainly what they wanted to achieve. ‘Give up’, wriggle out of public questioning. Once the cancer video went out people were bombarded by comments insulting them for questioning KP and prominent American newspapers went with that angle even as their ‘expert’ suggested the background was real and the BBC wouldn’t lie.
They want her forgotten so William doesn’t have to face whatever music he’s hiding from.
yeah, that was a few minutes before everyone watched the video again and took a good hard look and realized, lol, that’s not Kate. So much for the moralizing. THe AI Cancer video did a much better job of shutting people up.
God, this gets darker by the day. I disagree that people will forget about Kate,and KP are idiots to think this could happen. On the contrary, they’re creating a martyr in real time. KP’s craptastic comms throughout this entire shiteshow have raised more questions than they’ve answered. Diana’s death has set the precedent; now this suspicious situation reminds us all of how the BM protects the crown at all costs.
If Kate *does* have cancer, I’m thinking ovarian or esophageal. Hoping and praying all the kids are ok. I feel so sad for them – they are hostages in that terrible family because of their birth. Harry and Meghan are looking so prescient for escaping now…
Funny you should say Ovarian CA. I saw a youtube vid a couple days before the bench video, citing medical records saying she had ovarian cancer. Who knows if its true; hope not, because that is not terribly amenable to treatment. Esophogeal: mostly folks who have drank and smoked heavy for a long time. Ovarian comes out of nowhere, for no reason we know of. Terrible stuff.
My comment did not post so I’m back posting again because I feel like it needs to be spoken out loud.
Something is wrong. Something has happened to Kate. I do not know if she is incapacitated or even dead at this point but what I do know is that she does not have cancer. This was the lie concocted to shut everyone up and throw egg in everyones face. This is the lie concocted to protect William.
It’s not bonkers to believe these people are lying. It’s not bonkers to believe that something unfortunate has really happened to a woman that they so far have only produced with fake images. They are absolute liars.
Someone reminded me of this above and its sums everything up. They won’t tell the truth in regards to Meghan but will LIE to protect William.
They literally do have the British media backing them. The British media were gleeful to accept and publish the obvious fake Mothers Day photo as “proof of life”. It wasn’t until after International New organizations killed the photo that they stopped attacking people on social media for questioning it. They then brushed it off as a minor edit and a mother photoshopping it because kids move in photos. They gleefully posted the Farm shop video with the BODY DOUBLE. And yes I do think it was William in that video physically participating in that stunt.
Everything has been suspect from the very beginning. The fact she suddenly get admitted and discharged to same hospital as Chuck at the same exact time. They deliberately staged a plant pic for her discharge but not her. Chuck and Camz seen coming and going. William bald head only seen visiting once for 15 minutes.
All of this has been to protect William. Even the obvious LIE of her supposed Cancer DX which wasn’t until 5 to 6 WKS AFTER the surgery (I mean cmon) was used as an excuse for William to abruptly pull himself out of that memorial 1 hr before it started.
They have fed us nothing but lies, fake and AI generated photos and videos and literally have called us crazy for questioning them from Day 1 of this Circus. They have now literally told us that William is “relieved” and can breath now after their fake AI cancer announcement. They cancer diagnosis is nothing but a lie to shut everyone up and throw it up in people’s faces. And it’s all about pooooooor William. Poooooor William can breath easily now after the announcement that he is able to helicopter over to his favorite football games. He must be exhausted everyone! He needs a break.
I’ve been rambling but they are LIARS. They are lying. I don’t believe she has cancer and something has happened to her.
Thank you, Julianna. The palaces have lied about everything regarding Kate and William.
They have indeed lied to us, several times. It’s also important to remember, when thinking about all this, that this is not a family in the normal sense of the word. The King and his heir have immense wealth and power, and are quite literally above the law, and unreachable by the press, if they want to be. This is not a normal situation, and anyone who compares it to situations in their own life is missing the point.
Will and KP are control freaks. She is not dead or in a coma. KP has the media by the balls so don’t expect any questions.
Will and Kate are lazy and entitled. That’s it.
My post disappeared! I posted something weeks ago which I couldn’t get through. I’m wedded to my initial theory. That is, she got seriously ill – either physically and/or mentally – owing to an ED, perhaps was rushed to hospital in late December 2023, had surgery as stated, and is still recovering, whether mentally and/or physically. Something and/or someone pushed her over the edge.
I don’t believe she’s incapacitated, let alone deceased. However, I can appreciate why others may think so because it is a possibility. The divorce may be on foot, which wouldn’t help her. I note that she made a point to mention William, “being by her side” in the video announcement. By inference, I think there may have been an agreement that he would not initiate any divorce until she has recovered. But that’s all speculation on my part.
William is so happy because he no longer has the burden of having to do royal duties. His mood has nothing directly to do with Kate’s health status – it’s as a consequence of it. As for Kate’s absence, their grandiose sense of entitlement is the reason for any lack of updates. Sometimes the most simple inference is correct.
Did anyone see those amazing AI images generated of Katy Perry? Wow, food for thought …
The same pop star who was at Charles’s coronation 🤔
@Liz: yes, I had forgot!
@Liz and Esquire
I feel like the Daily Mail is trolling the Wales. They just did an AI article on the “royals” showing them 15 to 20 years from now. The headline a couple of days ago i believe only had AI and W&K in headline now changed to “royals”. They have William and Kate at the top. There is one of Harry and Charles.
Just looked Julianna and I agree.
The foreign press are more on it.
Don’t know if you’ve seen it already but Google photo of Kate Middleton by Alexsandro Palombo (he highlights dv in women)
Meant to add Julianna I think those DM photos were from Paris Match the French press
Sounds about right to me
I know I’m way late to this party and this has likely been said but more and more I believe Kate more than likely has a colostomy bag and doesn’t want to be out in public. I also think she doesn’t have a real desire or drive to connect with people in a public facing role. She’ll always have an excuse and be excused.
Very plausible and agreed that she doesn’t really want to be out in public. She does it because it came with the marriage.
I have a friend in that position, it took her a long while to get back to normal mentally, she was younger than Kate is.
If they didn’t live in a bubble they’d realise how bad it is for them for the public to become too comfortable with her absence!! She’s basically their main “attraction”(besides the kids)! They’re unknowingly setting the case for not having these leeches. I mean what valuable input is the public missing out on with their absence?!! NONE WHATSOEVER. sooner or later people struggling to pay their bills will wise up to how they’re away living off in luxury while people offering absolutely no benefit for what they take from taxpayers
Good point, which is no doubt why the King is seen out in public whilst undergoing gruelling medical treatment. It applies to William, though he is using Kate’s illness, no matter what that is, as a sword and shield.
Kate is irrelevant to the longevity of the monarchy, she has served her purpose just as Diana did. They cast Diana aside with brutality and the same fate will behold Kate. The focus will shift to the children.
On the day of Kate’s op Carole Middleton said she was scared she was going to loose Kate. Why?
Where did you read that?
So this is how the House of Windsor ends: not in an outside coup, but from the childish idiots within the palace walls. They couldn’t keep it together for two years post-Elizabeth R. Awesome.
Doesn’t it often end like that?
Yes, that’s how it ends and that’s why Elizabeth held onto the reins until her last breath. She knew.
I was scrolling headlines of the Daily Fail and it brought me back to that article the other day from the lady that works with Nanny Maria for the children’s clothing. The more I think about it the more I feel like it was planted story. Kp approved this story. She may have gave the interview prior to all the children wearing the exact same outfits for 3 pictured events however I still feel like it’s a planted story. The headline is clear: “William and Kate going through hell amid cancer battle”. William wants to remind everyone of the cancer story to cover his ass so he can continue to be lazy & garner sympathy but also cover up whatever is going on behind the .
Which reminds me. Real funny we haven’t heard not another peep about the people that supposedly were going to access her medical records.
All of these stories are plants and sanctioned by KP. Just like all their lies like Kate is just out and about attending kids soccer matches and shopping for bread. Honestly, the fact they even specifically mentioned the kids sports makes me think they arent even participating in them or attending Lambrook right now. The media lie (obviously we already know that) but they willingly print whatever William the BALD wants written. Just like all the lies they readily told for him and Kate about Meghan. Same sh*t different day.
My feeling is Kate has cancer and it’s a lot worse than she let on in that March video. If you look at pic of her at Wimbledon 2023 to November 2023, there is significant weight loss IMO. I thought she looked good in the blue outfit on Xmas day but the coat hid her figure. It’s the pant suits and the day in November in the Burberry jacket and event in the long blue dress with a wig where the weight loss is alarming. I’m guessing that Twitter user whose account was seized by the British govt was on to something when he said stage 4 bowel cancer.
If that’s the case and she was ill for so long, why didn’t they make a statement from the beginning explaining the situation and asking for privacy? Nobody would deny her something like that…the whole mess would be avoided…I believe her weight loss combined with her whole ragged appearance the last year were due to a serious mental issue (ED, any kind of addiction etc) that provoke an equal serious physical health problem….But they don’t want to admit that Kate suffered from any kind of mental illness because that would depict problems in the general in their so called perfect marriage and family image, not to mention William’s role in all this..and the heir must always be protected…
They refused to allow Meghan when she was pregnant and was having mental health problems because it would look bad. If Kate had lost a lot of weight due to bowel cancer surely she would have had the operation much earlier,
This is my thought too. They may have done chemo first to shrink the tumour and then surgery. I can see why she wouldn’t go public. Who wants anyone to know how seriously ill they are? She and Willian were trying to buy time IMO.
I know this is cold, but most people have to go to work while their loved ones are sick and dying. I don’t consider him a superhero for dragging himself out to a pub or a football game.