Ruby Gettinger on the Kevin Smith “too fat to fly debacle”

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In Touch Weekly and People Magazine spoke to Ruby Gettinger, the obese star of Style Network reality show Ruby, to get her thoughts on the Kevin Smith “too fat to fly” debate. To be fair to Kevin, he was never too fat to fly. In an article on his blog, he details how a representative from Southwest airlines admitted to him that he was bumped because they needed the seat. He may have been singled out for his weight, but he met all the criteria to fit in his seat with both armrests down and the seatbelt buckled without an extender. When the media firestorm got too heated, Southwest issued a sort-of half assed apology and kept implying that Smith was too heavy to fly safely, which was not the case according to company criteria. The two women on either side of him told the stewardess that it was no problem and he was primarily asked to leave as the flight was overbooked. (Someone bought two seats, not Smith – he only did that one time in his life contrary to reports – and they had filled all the seats on the plane, having taken Smith on standby.)

Anyway, Ruby talked about her trouble flying and said that while she sometimes buys two seats she once bought just one when she was over 700 pounds. She says she felt bad for the guy next to her. Ruby now weighs around 350 pounds, having lost 400 pounds in the past two years.

“The first time I went on a plane I was close to 700 lbs. and I had no idea how small the seats were,” says Gettinger. “The man sitting next to me was not happy at all! I felt so bad!”

Gettinger, who stars on the Style Network’s Ruby, has lost nearly 400 lbs. since that flight, but flying still isn’t easy, she tells PEOPLE. “After that experience, I never flew without a friend to sit next to me, or I would buy two seats.”

She doesn’t know all the details of director Smith’s recent removal from a Southwest Airlines flight, but the Savannah, Georgia, resident says she can imagine.

“This kind of stuff should be taken care of in private before someone like me or Kevin enters a plane,” she says. “We need to remember that we may have different shells, but we are still the same on the inside.”

[From People]

Ruby also told In Touch “I feel so sad for Kevin! I can only imagine what that must have felt like. We all come in different shapes and sizes, and deserve to be treated with respect. My personal opinion is this kind of stuff should be taken care of in private before someone like me or Kevin enters a plane.” Again, I feel for Kevin because while he’s a big guy he wasn’t technically too fat to fly and the airline was willing to admit that to him personally while they issued another statement that implied he was. He wrote on his blog “Now I’m gonna carry this Too Fat To Fly sh*t around like herpes for the rest of my life, and it was never even true.”

I was watching CNN when this story was all over the news, and they spoke to a passengers’ rights advocate who said that the issue is that the seats are too damn small. It’s true, you’re usually crammed in there like cattle. It’s time that airlines gave us more room on both the sides and in front rather than blaming larger people for the issue.

The third season of Ruby premiered on Sunday and I had the chance to watch it. While she does seem like a kind person I came away with a different impression of her than I had from interviews. She’s sweet and Southern but can be a little catty and was very territorial when she met the girlfriend of her male best friend, who is also her roommate. She’s fun, though, and she seems like the type of person you would love to hang out with. It’s hard enough to lose weight when you’re just overweight. I can’t imagine what she must go through every day.

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  1. gg says:

    Why is she so l’oranj?

    I vote for MORE BLOODY ROOM on the flippin planes! I’m tall and it’s painful to cram yourself in for several hours just because you can’t afford fare + $1,800 to recline in First Class.

  2. dee says:

    Im tired of Kevin’s whining about this. Its obvious he’s making a stink to get his name out there to promote his new movie.
    I actually agree w/SW on this one and am glad they look into the comfort of all passengers. I certainly do not want someone else’s flesh spilling onto my seat. I pay good money for my space just like everyone else does and I expect to have all of it to myself.

  3. Sam says:

    Dee,

    Look out for Karma.

  4. Ben says:

    Economy seats are rather cramped but it’s more leg room. The chair aren’t roomy but if you’re too wide for them you are most likely too fat.

  5. dee says:

    what does Karma have to do with this?
    I’m not being rude, its a common courtesy to pay for two seats of you’re going to take up 2 seats. I wouldnt want someone spilling into my seat any more than they would want me spilling into theirs.

  6. audrey says:

    @ Sam –
    Is Karma gonna come and take a seat away from dee?

  7. embertine says:

    She is too orange to fly. It’s bad enough to have someones fat rolls hanging all over you on a flight, without thinking that you’re going to be stained with all their fake tan rubbing off.

  8. celandine says:

    If the airlines gave us more room, they’d be fewer seats on the plane, so prices would have to go up. I’m 6 foot tall so it’s a pain having to crumple myself up, but it’s the price I gladly pay for reasonably-priced travel. I would, however, begrudge having to pay more to cover other passengers’ obesity.

    Sorry!

  9. lucy2 says:

    I can’t believe that at 700 lbs, they let her on the plane for one seat. I’m sorry, but there is no way she would have fit in the seat.
    I watched the first season of her show and there was a whole thing about her flying for the first time in ages, and she was about 400-500 lbs then and I think she had to get 2 seats.
    In interviews, I like her, but on her show, I found her annoying and thought the whole show was a lot of manufactured drama, which it didn’t need because hers is an interesting story to begin with.

    I feel bad for Kevin in that it seems like the airline could have handled it all a lot better and it seems like they’re not quite truthful in their reasoning. But as far as having to carry the label around forever, he is the one who made it a national news story.

    Oh yeah, and the leg room is way too short, especially on planes for long flights. On a 1 or 2 hour I could deal with it, but I recently had a 6 hour that was really, really cramped. And I’m ALWAYS behind the person who puts their seat all the way back right away.

  10. Mairead says:

    I read in Newsweek some years back, and it had been in other articles and news programmes, that airplane seats really are too small. They are set for 1960s averages, when average heights and bone structure was just a tad smaller than now.

  11. UrbanRube says:

    Whether you’re overweight or not, it’s too crowded in those planes. In my experience, United Economy Class is the worst. Being in the middle seat in United economy is like being a sardine, and I’m not a big woman. One of the things I liked most about flying first class back when I flew enough for work to get upgrades was just the width of the fricking armrests. It’s like hell on earth when you’re crammed into a middle seat in the middle section with about three seats on either side of you on one of those two-aisle planes and you can’t even put your elbows up because your neighbors already have.

  12. Laurie says:

    The airline seats *might* be okay if they prevented the seats from reclining! I can handle the small seat but when the chair in front of me takes up all my space, that is where I draw the line. The reclined seat in front of me actually rested on my pregnant belly!

  13. GatsbyGal says:

    I don’t get why they don’t just make bigger planes to accomodate slightly larger seats (it could still be the same amount of seats, too, so they wouldn’t have to raise ticket prices to make up for it). Most of the planes still in the air today are from the fucking 80’s and get reupholstered every couple years, shouldn’t we be upgrading by now?

  14. snapdragon says:

    step away from the spray tan.

  15. lin234 says:

    Bigger planes + bigger seats = more material used. Where do you think additional funding for bigger planes is going to come from? Not to mention the additional fuel used? Ticket prices of course!

    Didn’t Kevin buy 2 seats on a plane before? Why did he even bother if he can fit into one seat perfectly fine?

    People are crammed like sardines in planes but you really get what you pay for. International first class flights cost around 10 grand, 5 for business… Unless you’re able to get those upgrades, it’s an obscene amount to pay for flights in my opinion.

  16. GatsbyGal says:

    @Lin234 – You ask why buy 2 seats when you can fit in 1? He’s got the money for it, why wouldn’t he want a little extra room and the awsome knowledge that he wouldn’t have to bump elbows and force smalltalk with a random stranger for a couple hours? Of course, what I REALLY want to know is why he isn’t flying first class on a less trashy airline?

  17. lin234 says:

    Gatsby Gal: lol

    First, you’re naive enough to actually think that bigger planes and bigger seats (and with the same amount of seats!) could possibly not raise prices for ticket buyers and now you’re saying that he bought two seats to not bump elbows or have smalltalk forced on him?? lol Someone could still talk to him with one space in between. lol Thanks for the laugh.

  18. GatsbyGal says:

    Lin234 – Do you fly much? Because I do, and I can tell you right now that having that extra seat in the middle of a 3-seat row is a godsend, and yes, it definitely discourages conversation. Then again, he’s Kevin Smith so someone would probably try to talk to him no matter what, but for the average person it’s great.

  19. Lucinda says:

    The seats are small. I’m 5’7 and 130 lbs. and I feel cramped, especially if I’m in the middle seat. My husband is 6’2 and he’s very uncomfortable. It’s not just leg room. It’s elbow room too. So I agree that airlines really should acknowledge that their seats are quite small.

    That said, of course rates will go up if seats are made larger. That’s common sense. It still takes the same amount of fuel to fly the plane and with fewer ticket buyers, the prices will go up.

  20. Boo says:

    How about each person gets THEIR OWN armrest? I hate armrest fighting with a stranger while trying to be polite. It would also help with the whole “larger person spillover” issue, which I’ve had happen to me a couple of times. Usually past middle aged business men who also seem to think they deserve the whole armrest.

  21. Annicka says:

    I remember one episode of Ruby where she bought one seat and had her nephew crammed in next to her. Then she had the audacity to comment on how humiliated she was when a stewardess told her that it was dangerous and they couldn’t allow her or her nephew to fly like that. Buying one seat when you’re that size is just selfish. I don’t see how she couldn’t have known what size the seats are unless she’s never even seen a TV show or movie with an airplane.

  22. Reina says:

    My boyfriend is 6’6 and while he certainly isn’t too fat to fly, he’s too damned tall. Being of rather small stature myself, flying’s never really bothered me, but watching him cram his legs into those tiny seats makes me feel uncomfortable.

  23. oh hey says:

    I remember in a previous Kevin Smith post on CB that some commenters wished some passengers be removed from the plane for B.O. I heard on the news today that an American passenger was taken off Air Canada because of B.O.

  24. GatsbyGal says:

    @ Oh Hey – Really?? Oh wow, that’s awesome. Good on them. I remember one time I was flying with my family, and me and my brother were sitting in a row all to ourselves. There was this really terrible ramen-that’s-been-stewing-in-garbage smell and we couldn’t figure out what it was. We kept making jokes that the other had farted (we were very mature kids, lol), but we finally did enough sniffing around to realize it was one of the dudes sitting in the row in front of us. It was SO gross. We kept looking over at our parents in the adjacent row and making “omg we’re dying” faces.

  25. Kat says:

    Well, I have a couple of questions.
    1.Why was K. Smith flying standby? Was it an emergency? 2. Why was Smith flying economy? He probably has the $s to fly 1st class. I get that the airline was waaaaayyyy out of line dealing with it the way they did but I can’t for the life of me understand why a person wouldn’t opt for comfort. There are a couple of ways to handle this if the airlines wanted to. When someone buys a ticket at the airport and the ticket seller thinks “oh hell no” or some such they have the person repair to a nearby room where they can be seated in an actual seat to see if they will fit. If not, you buy 2. If you are buying online make people fill in height and weight as part of their ID if your BMI based on ht wt ratio is too hight the computer kicks you out and you cannnot buy a single ticket. On the page it should clearly state if you lie about the stats and show up not as advertised the airline reserves the right to keep you off the plane or sell you an additional ticket if available if not available they can book you on the next flight with 2 seats open. Flying is NOT a right, it is a travel service and the Airlines do not have to let you fly. I just think this could be handled in a more more intelligent and compassionate way.

  26. gee_gee says:

    Y’all, Ruby makes everything better. I adore her.

  27. gg says:

    There was an airline reality show that showed them removing supersmelly people that hadn’t bathed in a long time. They gave them new clothes, products to wash up and try to mitigate the smell before they would allow them onboard.

  28. lin234 says:

    GatsbyGal- lol Yes, yes I’ve been on the big ‘ol planes that go up in the air for hours at a time!

    In all seriousness, I have extended family overseas so I’ve flown internationally and domestically since I was a baby. So yes, when given a choice, I always try to pick seats with a space in between me and another person.

    This guy has bought 2 seats before because he’s aware of his weight. So why all the fuss? But the reasons you gave were all very silly. While having a seat in the middle can discourage smalltalk, if someone wants to be a chatty Kathy, they will be. If he really didn’t want to be bothered, he could have chartered a plane or else gone on another airline with first class and bought out an aisle of seats.

    If you’re flying with somewhere like Southwest, you should know exactly what you’re getting: a cheap, no frills flight. Great for long weekends away.

  29. No One says:

    People, Kevin bought 2 seats because his wife was going to fly with him and at the last minute she couldn’t. When they fly together they often buy the all three just so they can have room to move because of the cramped freakin’ seats. He doesn’t NEED two seats. Hell I’m sure if we all could afford 2 seats we’d all buy them just so we didn’t have to bump the other person next to us no matter how small we are.

  30. Em says:

    Perhaps this is something that can be dealt with before boarding? I’m sure getting kicked off a plane because you’re too fat is embarrassing for anyone.