King William will do everything he can to take away Prince Andrew’s titles

King Charles has already retired to Scotland for the rest of the summer, although this will probably be one of the shortest summer holidays of his reign. He’s due back in Windsor mid-September to host Donald Trump’s state visit. When Charles makes his way to Balmoral, he’ll be staying at Birkhall, his long-time home/mansion on the Balmoral estate. It’s more than likely that Prince Andrew is already in residence at Balmoral’s main house, or Andrew will be there shortly. It’s funny to think that Andrew is going hunting in Scotland while all of the papers are covering every lurid story from Andrew Lownie’s book, Entitled, about the Yorks. But even though Charles, Andrew and the rest of the family are technically on their summer holiday, the palace machinery churns away. Which is how the Telegraph put together a lengthy piece about “the Andrew problem” and what Charles could do and should do. There’s also a lot in this piece about what eventual King William will do to his uncle. Some highlights:

The Andrew Question: Hopes that the King and his senior courtiers would make progress on the “Prince Andrew question” during his early reign have not come to pass, with priorities shifting rapidly after the King was diagnosed with cancer. “Something,” says one source, “still needs to be done.” Attempts “for the King and his brother to resolve things” have not gone far enough, in the view of many Palace insiders. But, others acknowledge, there is only so much the King can sensibly do. Prince Andrew has his own, longstanding lease agreement with the Crown Estate for his home, and as long as he can maintain it – at an estimated cost of millions of pounds – he cannot be evicted.

Andrew still attends “family events”: He has finally bowed out of all but a few remaining public appearances, keeping largely out of the way during Garter Day this year. The status quo falls into a pattern set by the late Queen Elizabeth II, in which Prince Andrew is permitted to attend “family occasions” only. In recent years that has meant he and his ex-wife Sarah, Duchess of York, joining the family for the Sandringham Christmas walk and at St George’s Chapel for Easter Sunday. “[Andrew] can’t be banned from Church,” says one Palace source, regretfully. Almost all in Palace circles now admit that it cannot continue indefinitely.

Eventual King William is already making plans: Realistically, some in Palace circles concede, the “Prince Andrew question” will now fall to a future King William to solve once and for all. Christopher Wilson, a royal historian and biographer, believes that under Prince William the policy of Elizabeth II to avoid, whenever possible, acknowledging public criticism of the Royal family will come to an end. He says: “I think to a large extent Charles has adhered to that as a safe policy – the moment you start tearing the family apart, where does it stop?… With William it will be a different approach – he has hard-nosed ideas about how the Royal family needs to appear in the frenzied social media world we now inhabit, and I think will be ruthless.”

William will find a way to ban Andrew from family events: If Prince Andrew was warmly invited to family events by Queen Elizabeth II, and patiently so under King Charles, he may find there are fewer – if any – moments where he is on camera in the future. The mechanisms open to a future King William to go further are more extensive than is generally reported. He has the option to decline to invite his uncle to his future Coronation. It would be headline news, but there is a precedent: the Duke of Windsor was excluded from both George VI and Elizabeth II’s in the rather different circumstances of living in exile after abdication. A king can, in certain circumstances, remove the Order of the Garter, which is in the monarch’s personal gift.

Removing Andrew’s ducal title: Parliament has greater powers – it can remove the Dukedom via legislation. A private members’ bill to “give the Monarch powers to remove titles”, mooted in 2022 after the people of York argued they did not want to be associated with the Duke, fell flat. But a government bill to do the same job would doubtless fare much better. Should another attempt, with the heft of the government behind it, be more successful, Prince Andrew’s name could eventually be struck off the Roll of the Peerage where it is currently listed under “York”.

Prince Louis won’t become the Duke of York: In any case, the disgrace now associated with Prince Andrew makes it all but certain that his Dukedom will fall into abeyance when he dies. Upon his death, the title the Duke of York will revert to the Crown. It would customarily be bestowed on the monarch’s second son, where the time is right. But a grown-up Prince Louis is far more likely to become Duke of Edinburgh.

They want to take away his HRH too: But, says a source, such a “big deal” would best happen through legislation. “If there was a serious move to take [a title] away, particularly at that level, you do it through both houses [of Parliament],” they added. None of this, one source emphasises, can be done at the whim of a king; the government is required to take action. But whether it is King Charles acting out of necessity in the near future or his son deciding to lance the boil in years to come, the combined brains of Buckingham Palace and Downing Street could find a way. “Is it likely at this point?” one source says. “No. But is it possible? Yes.”

Christopher Wilson on the fragile monarchy: One way for this to come to a head now, suggests Wilson, would be if MPs raise questions about Prince Andrew’s time as a trade ambassador, in the context of examining potential misuse of public funds. Any serious findings would mean “Charles could act in the best interests of preserving the monarchy…The Royal family is in a fragile state,” he adds. “Arguably in worse shape than during the Abdication when at least the problem got solved fast. Here we have seen a terrible shredding process going on, which downgrades our principal institution and sooner or later will render it an international laughing-stock unless something is done, quickly.”

[From The Telegraph]

I have mixed feelings about “here are all of the things William plans to do to Andrew” – Charles could push this issue and spend some of his political capital, and the Andrew problem has festered during Charles’s reign. But I guess people just accept that Charles isn’t going to do sh-t, so Wrathful Peg will do what needs to be done. All of this is just a reminder… while Andrew Lownie’s book seems to be mostly recycled and reheated old gossip, the book still serves as a reminder that Andrew has been an unchecked catastrophe for decades, and yes, something should be done.

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43 Responses to “King William will do everything he can to take away Prince Andrew’s titles”

  1. ThatGirlThere says:

    Maybe that’s what he told Andrew when he and Kate were driving with him on the way to church that time. Lazy weirdo.

    • Swaz says:

      The Windsors really sound like a family from HELL, and William is such a GRINCH 🤓🤓

      • Alo says:

        Yes, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day! Gotta give William credit for signposting that he is going to do the belated right thing regarding that slug’s presence.

      • jais says:

        But William signposts a lot of things and doesn’t necessarily follow thru. Peace in the Middle East, ending homelessness et. etc. I’ll believe it when I see it. But most of his pr is about being keen to one day do something if only he could but all he can offer is a smile. If he extinguishes the slug though, I will stand corrected.

  2. MSS says:

    I don’t know if that’s a good idea. The press keeps talking about Beatrice and Eugenie potentially becoming “working Royals“ when William becomes king, but if William treats their father like a pariah, I don’t see any way that he could try to get their support.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “here are all of the things William plans to do to Andrew”

      If Peggington does anything to Andrew then Andrew can just write a book that makes “Spare” look like a “Fun With Dick & Jane” first grade learn-to-read primer.

      • MY3CENTS says:

        He’s to lazy to actually do anything, so I wouldn’t be worried if I was Andrew, plus yeah he probably has a lot of shit on Pegs.

  3. Blogger says:

    Deflection from the freebie yacht and the Fort Belvedere grab.

    Willy’s not king yet and he has all these: woulda stuff. 🥱

    Focus on your current probs Willy. You want Andrew solved? Send him to the FBI in one of your Uber choppers.

    • Tessa says:

      Pegs is all talk. He won’t do a thing

      • Blogger says:

        He has to give the rats something to write about. Just not the clicks that they should be focusing on. The Greek yacht freebie is a gold mine for the rats but they ignore it at their peril.

      • BeanieBean says:

        ‘Will do everything he can’ sounds like weasel words to me. When he, in fact, does nothing it will be because he ‘couldn’t’ due to some arcane royal notion/custom/rule/etc.

    • Eurydice says:

      Maybe William can ship him off to Abu Dhabi – they seem to like disgraced royals there.

    • Dutch says:

      Throw enough money Andrew’s way he will do anything King William wants him to do. It’s not that complicated.

  4. Tessa says:

    The queens father king George was duke of York. They are not going to retire that title. Pegs is not going to do a thing about Andrew. Andrew knows too much and pegs already had Andrew walking to church with him.

    • Visa Diva says:

      I could see them letting the title be in abeyance for a generation. There’s plenty of royal dukedom titles that have been in abeyance they can use if needed.

    • MrsBanjo says:

      He can’t anyway. William doesn’t have the power to remove his ducal title. It would take an act of Parliament and that would put EVERYONE’S titles at risk because then that will prove there’s no point to them. There’s no way the aristocracy is going to be cool with that.

    • L Williams says:

      I totally agree a act of Parliament to remove Prince Andrews title would put anyone title at risk just because the current Monarch doesn’t like you. Remember there are Dukes and lords who sit in parliament. Andrew has not be convicted of any crime. And that is the standard that they will stand by.( Ex Conrad Black ,Jeffery Archer) But also remember some of those in parliament with hereditary ties to the throne just tolerate the royal family. This is the reason William ended up marrying a commoner.

  5. Tessa says:

    The duke of Windsor was not barred from the UK. He was allowed to visit his mother. Later Elizabeth 2 invited the wonfsors both to visit the UK.

  6. SussexWatcher says:

    So the British press are contradicting all of their previous articles screeching about how King Egg’s first act will be to strip Harry of his titles. Because here they state – as everyone here already commented – that titles can only be stripped through an act of parliament! So many lies and constant contradictions used to batter the Sussexes. It’s interesting how when they’re reporting something factual they don’t bother to include Harry’s name in the article.

    Anyway, I agree with someone upthread who said The Other Brother won’t do anything as king. He’ll be too busy vacationing with his f-buddies.

    • Jais says:

      The ducal title needs legislation to be removed but I thought the HRH could simply be removed by the monarch. Yet here they’re saying that also needs legislation?

  7. sevenblue says:

    Will drove Andrew personally to family events multiple times in front of cameras AFTER his relationship with Epstein was exposed globally. Whatever else Andrew did during royal visits, I doubt the royal family was unaware. Andrew didn’t go anywhere without his royal protection officers, which would report back to the royals. Will made his own brother flee UK, turned his own sister in law into a hated figure in UK. If he wanted Andrew gone, punished, he would make it happen. Andrew has the full protection of BRF that includes the monarch and the heir.

    • Becks1 says:

      William gave andrew a ride to scotland when QEII was dying but not his own brother. I think the stories of his hatred of Andrew are grossly exaggerated. he may find him obnoxious, and he may have some inkling of what social media says about him, but he still prefers andrew to harry.

  8. Eurydice says:

    Short of imprisoning him or killing him, I don’t see what they can do about the “Andrew problem.” Sure, they can strip him of all the titles and garters and whatnot, they can evict him and set him loose on the world, but he’ll still be alive and with a mouth to talk to whomever pays him.

    As for William acknowledging public criticism – yeah, “for thee, not for me.” He can dish it, but he can’t take it.

    • Dutch says:

      Or William can throw a bunch of money at him and convince Andrew to “retire from public life.”

      • Eurydice says:

        That’ll be the day when William opens his wallet to let the moths out for some fresh air.

      • Dutch says:

        I don’t disagree. But they have been threatening Andrew with the stick for so long with no results. Maybe try the carrot. Create leverage by making the comfort of his golden years tied entirely on his ability to stay in line and out of the spotlight.

      • Eurydice says:

        Andrew has behaved badly under every possible circumstance. I don’t think he can change who he is whether they give him money or not. I think the best they can do is leave him where he is at Royal Lodge and hope for the best.

  9. So Chuckles doesn’t want to “tear apart the family because then where does it stop” Seriously? Chuckles has no problem treating his second son who is family like shit and removing his security and taking away his residence and feeding the gutter rats horrible lies but he doesn’t want to tear the family apart? GTFO. Peg and all his hatred will be the title taker king.

    • Tessa says:

      Charles alienated his first wife and is a bad father and grandfather. And rejects his second son and his family. He did much tearing apart of the family. What a nerve he has

  10. Monika says:

    2Might do2 and “could do2 is one thing, “will do” definitely is something different. William is once removed from Andrew. I mean there is a direct connection between Andrew and the late Queen and Andrew and Charles. Andrew is the son of the late Queen and the brother of Charles. Andrew is “only” Willi’s uncle. This distance gives Willi some more leverage.
    However Andrew knows what skeletons the RF are hiding. He has a lot of them in his own closet. I am wondering if Andrew knows enough so that he could damage the Monarchy by writing his own memoir for Willi to back off.

  11. Becks1 says:

    LOL at the idea that William will be “ruthless” about the royal family’s image on social media. Does that mean he intends to buy more bots??

  12. JENNIFER says:

    No he won’t. Smh. William likes Andrew.

  13. ParkRunMum says:

    yeah, I’ll hold my breath….. Charles was chomping at the bit for his mother to retire Andrew, William is chomping at the bit at his father to retire Andrew, meanwhile, Andrew is sitting pretty, couldn’t care less, and his mere continued presence shows them up to be the crew of slimeballs they are. He’s not going to be the ritual scapegoat. I derive some satisfaction from this, odd as it may sound. Cause they are *all* the same. And, yes, as someone pointed out upthread, William cannot take one iota of the scrutiny and sneering judgment that has been directed at his brother. His hyperbolic reaction to the “rural rivals” story dictated to Richard Kay tells all. If he had ignored that piece, it would have sunk like a stone, leaving barely a ripple. Just like Charles could not take any of the criticism that has (rightly) been directed at Andrew. Andrew has — for all his admitted and glaring flaws — a strain of his mother’s stoicism. He’s just refusing to move. For which I suspect — ironically — he’s more respected than his brother or his heir nephew. He is taking his punishment, in terms of public shame, and it is well and truly due. For that, I suspect, the British public will conclude that, with Andrew, they can call it even. I mean — that is the deal. You serve as a public role model. Hero / cautionary tale.

  14. Teagirl says:

    I don’t think William necessarily wants to strip Andrew of his Duke title because he wants to solve the Andrew problem. I think he wants to do it so that it’s then possible to do it because of the government legislation that would have been passed. And then… He can do the same to Harry, having set a precedent. I think it’s a back door to wounding Harry.

  15. Pam F says:

    The man is just a boil in need of lancing.

  16. KC says:

    It’s at its most fragile because they’ve maneuvered the one with the most charisma out, and allowed a damaged Andrew to keep his place. Yes, he’s had things taken away, but he’s still squatting like a spider in his web and still goes to family functions.
    The BRF, especially William, is so blinded by their “It’s Good to be the KIng” innate entitlement they can’t read the room.

  17. IdlesAtCranky says:

    I’ve got an idea.

    Why doesn’t some poor overworked soul at MI5 or MI6 ‘accidentally’ fax the entire, unredacted Prince Paedrew the Grifter file to the FBI and the Guardian?

    That should solve the problem that the “royal” family *doesn’t* have with him, and give Parliament leverage to strip his titles and style for criminal activity, throw him off the public dole, and force the Monarch to evict him from Crown property.

    And hopefully see him prosecuted for theft and sexual assault of minors, if not outright rape.

  18. j.ferber says:

    Oh, I thought it was the Sussexes’ titles he’s rabid to take away. Now Andrew, too? So at least he’s ambitious to do two things during his reign as king of England. He’s hate-filled, but at least he has goals. But only Andrew deserves William’s wrath and punishments. The Sussexes are owed many apologies they will never get.

  19. Specky says:

    I love KING WILLIAM for chuckles. This is everything he deserves, regardless what an a hole pegger is. I want day after day of king William. That’s going to be delicious.

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