I’d like to know how people – and celebrities – define an “argument.” I agree that an argument is not the same thing as a heated disagreement, nor is an argument “one person venting or bitching out their partner because they’re in a bad mood.” Just because a couple hasn’t had an argument, doesn’t mean that they’ve never disagreed or been mad at each other or hurt each other’s feelings. Well, Travis and Jason Kelce interviewed George Clooney on their New Heights podcast, and Clooney was bragging about how he and Amal have never had an argument in their 13-year relationship. Travis spoke about how he and Taylor have never had an argument either.
Apparently Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift have a very peaceful love story. The Kansas City Chiefs tight end, 36, made a surprising claim on the Wednesday, Dec. 3 episode of his podcast, New Heights, while interviewing guest George Clooney.
When asking Clooney about his past claim that he and his wife, Amal Clooney, have never gotten into an argument in their 10 years together, Kelce had the script flipped on him by the Oscar winner, 64.
“No, I’m not lying,” Clooney insisted. “Travis, shall we ask you the same questions?”
Kelce laughed at the reference to his fiancée, Swift, claiming, “Well, it’s only been two and a half years, and you’re right. I haven’t gotten into an argument. Never once.”
Clooney went on to explain that he and Amal don’t see the point in arguing, noting, “Neither of us are gonna win the argument, so why get in? Dude, I’m 64 years old. And what am I gonna argue about at this point? You know? I’ve met this incredible woman that is, she’s beautiful and smart, and she stands for all the most important things that I believe in in the world. And I can’t believe how lucky I am. So what am I going to fight about?”
Clooney then told Travis and his older brother and co-presenter, Jason Kelce, that they could follow his example, and Travis admitted, “I am for sure. I’m just taking notes this whole time, big guy. You don’t even know.”
I actually believe that Travis and Taylor have never “argued.” I bet they’ve had disagreements (obvs) and what have you, but Travis absolutely seems like the kind of Golden Retriever fiance who avoids arguing with women in general and Taylor specifically. Now, do I believe that George and Amal never argue? LOL. No. Amal is a lawyer! Every lawyer I’ve ever met loves to argue.
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- New York, NY – Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce arrived at Chez Margaux in New York City, dazzling in contrasting black, white, and red ensembles. Pictured: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce BACKGRID USA 28 DECEMBER 2024 BYLINE MUST READ: BlayzenPhotos / BACKGRID USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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- New York, NY Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce were spotted arriving together at Zero Bond in New York City for the second consecutive evening, holding hands and continuing their stylish night out in the city that never sleeps. Pictured: Taylor Swift, Travis Kelce BACKGRID USA 6 NOVEMBER 2025 BYLINE MUST READ: ASPN / BACKGRID USA: +1 310 798 9111 / usasales@backgrid.com UK: +44 208 344 2007 / uksales@backgrid.com *UK Clients – Pictures Containing Children Please Pixelate Face Prior To Publication*
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If you have good communication you probably don’t have to argue right? Just listen and be real with your person.
George Clooney sucks.
I agree with you, especially that last statement.😊
23 years, my man and I have never “argued” or “fought”. You can disagree lovingly without being toxic and unkind and adversarial. It’s nice for Taylor and Travis — and most of all any kids they might have down the line.
It reminds me of my sister and her husband. He worshipped her and I could see them not arguing. I could also see that when he would disagree with her, she’d take it heart and move over to his view because it happened so rarely. As to Clooney’s claims, I worked for attorneys for many years and there was rarely anything that they wouldn’t argue a different point of view in general. It was very annoying but built into their brain.
I’ve been with my person for almost 13 years and we used to argue a lot. But over time you just learn to pick your battles and some things just aren’t worth getting mad about.
Well that makes me feel a lot better because Travis is def a hot head on the football field.
This might be controversial but I DO think that many couples normalize fighting. Like, it’s ok to get on each other’s nerves once in a while but it’s not healthy, good or normal to always be fighting.
My husband and I spend a LOT of time together and we rarely argue. As Aimee said above, it’s best to learn to pick your battles carefully. Also, good communication. If you can’t sit downs and talk honestly and calmly about it, resentment will inevitably build and come to a head later.
I kinda believe that Amal and George don’t fight. George isn’t some sexy leading man anymore and even if he was, Amal does not seem like the jealous type. And the thing that couples fight the most about is money and they’re definitely all set in that department. *shrug*
The money thing is a really good point. It’s not just the main topic of arguments, it can be a source of constant underlying stress that makes one more prone to a short fuse. Two people truly in love with no money stress at all probably don’t argue.
With George and Amal, though, I kinda think their relationship also doesn’t have much passion. They don’t get hot headed because they just don’t care about anything all that much.
Money and chores,cleaning, helping around the house, childcare- all these things are easily a non-issue when you have money fior help.
Take away money,and what stressors do you have to argue about? Maybe how you are raising the kids, but that is only if any of them are “problem” kids, behavior wise or health wise. With your average run of the mill kiddos there won’t be. Maybe careers but only if one resents the other and George seems very proud of her work and as an actor with past success he has less to prove now, so he’s not leaving for months on end doing projects. Politics? They are both pretty liberal. I think it’s sweet Travis and Taylor never have argued after 2 + years. Shows they are pretty compatible I would say. I’m not one to think lack of fighting means you don’t care or you’re not passionate. I think it means you are generally aligned.
I felt like George skirted around the whole, she’s a lawyer and can end you in arguments. I did like he framed it as, what do I have to argue about at my big age 😂. Do I believe the guy who stabbed Biden in the back 🤷🏼♀️
I am going to be the odd one out here, but I think that disagreements are part of a healthy relationship. No two people are always perfectly aligned, and it is important to be able to talk through your differences. That to me would be an argument, but that doesn’t seem definition for a lot of people. I am highly suspicious when couples tell me they never argue.
I put the over/under at two years.
I concur. He will make a great starter husband. And the album she releases after she dumps him will be epic (negative).
I just wonder if she’ll decide to have a baby with him.
Yeah I’m sort of wondering where the line is here between disagreements and fighting/arguing. Like screaming at each other and throwing things? That’s not healthy obviously. But disagreeing is normal and actually healthy IMO.
My husband and I are both lawyers lol so we do argue or disagree quite a bit but I would say the only thing we fight over is money, and that usually lasts for 30 seconds and then its over. But I don’t even think of that as a fight? IDK. It all depends on what is meant by fighting or arguing.
If couples aren’t having disagreements, someone is not being honest or someone is walking on eggshells, or someone is too scared to displease, or someone has quit caring. Conflict, handled with respect, leads to more trust and a greater potential for intimacy because all partners are being honest.
There is also the fact that trying to solve a problem isn’t arguing and money can make a lot of problems go away. Also a lot of couple arguments can boil down to “because I don’t want you to.” If you trust your partner and don’t feel the need to control their life, that’s a lot of arguments you aren’t going to have.
Travis a “Golden Retriever”? I have to laugh. We’ve seen his temper on a football field.
If he doesn’t talk back or rolls over, it’s because he doesn’t want to lose the Taylor stimulus.
Having watched New Heights for several years, I think Travis is more of an agitator, he loves to wind Jason up but he rarely gets angry himself, and I do ‘t are Taylor reacting like Jason does (or him poking at her like he does his brother) so yeah, I believe him.
My husband and I used to argue all the time — we both have strong opinions and personalities, but we always loved each other (and we’ve been together for decades).
That said, we stopped arguing in front of the kids when we were listening to some radio program and a child development expert said parents’ arguments change their children’s brain chemistry.
We decided our personal desire to win every argument was far less important than our children’s well-being.
I can believe it. I’ve been seeing someone for about a year, and while we don’t get to spend a ton of time together, we’ve never argued or had any kind of fight. We’re pretty good at communicating and I think both pretty mature at this point, and we just treat each other kindly. I grew up with parents that fight all the time and don’t seem to like each other at all, so this just feels so nice, to have someone who has been nothing but lovely to me. I could see Taylor and Travis being the same way, just happy with each other.
Speaking only for myself, I would never marry someone that I hadn’t had at least one major argument with. How else would I truly know how they handle, respond to, and resolve conflict?