We knew Jana Kramer was going to play out every aspect of her divorce in public. That’s how she and her soon-to-be-ex-husband, Mike Caussin, lived their marriage, so it only made sense. While I was not a fan of how they purported to work their issues out, at least I was ready for it when they split. Unfortunately, this latest round of “What did Mike Do Now” is something many of us know all too well. Even though he was the one who cheated and broke Jana’s paper-thin trust, Mike is lashing out at Jana. And poor Jana is losing her mind over it. Us has a recap of her latest Whine Down podcast with Dorinda Medley.
Pain on both sides. Jana Kramer opened up about Mike Caussin’s feelings toward her amid their ongoing divorce.
“He has so much resentment,” the One Tree Hill alum, 37, said during the Tuesday, July 13, episode of her “Whine Down” podcast.
“I’m like, ‘Wait a minute. You’re the one who hurt me. How are you being mean to me? This doesn’t add up.’”After podcast guest Dorinda Medley told Kramer that 34-year-old Caussin’s feelings were typical of a man, the Good Fight author asked the Real Housewives of New York City alum, 56, for some separation advice.
“I’m losing my mind. I’m like, ‘There’s a million mean things I could say to [Caussin]. But I’m choosing to be kind,’” she said.
While on “Whine Down,” Medley asked Kramer if her ex was still with the women he cheated with.
Although the Michigan native didn’t have a chance to respond, she did note that she’s not completely innocent in the situation either.
“I have to look at myself and take some blame and accountability for the ways that I tried to — it was very hard for me to be in that marriage where there wasn’t any trust,” she said. “At times I was shameful. I said mean things.”
I do feel for Jana on this, I’ve seen it so many times. The person who’s at fault for the end of the relationship becomes so cruel to the person they wronged. Sometimes they’re trying to justify ending it. Sometimes they’re actually angry their partner left them, regardless of how justified they were. And somethings it’s just good old-fashioned guilt. But I know what Jana is going through, trying to take the high road and Mike’s being a jerk. It’s easy to say she should’ve known who he was, but now it’s smacking her in the face. I feel bad for her. That last bit, though, that’s hard to read. If she was mean to Mike, sure, she can wrestle and atone for that. But I hope she isn’t blaming herself for him stepping out on her again. He cheated and he chose another woman over his family. End of.
My guess is Jana wants to play nice for the sake of the kids. She said in June that things would be much easier if she could cut Mike out completely and never have to deal with him. But they have two small kids, Jolie, five, and Jace, two. Hopefully they’ll be able to get over this hump and find a workable co-parenting relationship. I think they’re both going to need to find something else to talk about for a living for that to work but I guess we’ll see.
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However extra and oversharey she is I always just feel for her. I feel like she excused the adultery and did the mental gymnastics with a kind of ‘at least he doesnt beat me up/abuse me though’ perspective because of her past horrific relationship. I know I have thought similar things in the relationships that followed my horrible one.
I normally don’t have any time for people like this but in her case I actually feel sorry for her too. This woman pretty clearly has some major unaddressed issues. I hope she’s able to heal and get the help she needs.
I think another possibility is that he knows he lost control so he lashes out in anger. It’s adding insult to injury. I’m going through the same thing. It’s shocking.
@ Joan Callamezzo, I went through it with my second husband, but his excuse was that he needed sex everyday so when he would take week long work trips to Houston, my home town, he had a regular piece of ass for his trips and he introduced her to all of my friends! When I filed for divorce he became so vindictive and withheld finances for us!! We were living in Florida and he was in Texas, he can’t hold a job due to his narcissistic behaviour, BTW.
But I was supposed to turn a blind eye in regards to his affairs as his needs were the most important, mine were not.
Please hold in there!! You will get through this and after a period of trying to stand back up, you will come out so much stronger!! Also, keep detailed notes and record conversations too!! It’s imperative that you keep a diary of his antics. It will also give the judge and your attorney the details as to his antics.
He’s an awful, unreasonable man and she tries to make it work with him. She tried to keep it together but he wanted something else. He reminds me of Prince William. Angry and spoiled. I jus fell for Jenna and her babies. I hope that they are protected from Mike’s viciousness.
Not surprising but I think it’s kind of good he’s fully burning the bridge. I’d be afraid she’d find a way to go back if he were on his best behavior or being charming and apologetic. But this is who he is, a petulant narcissist who doesn’t take responsibility for his actions. At least she can see it now.
I finally realized that w my soon to be ex. He started being so mean, cold etc. I couldn’t understand why. All of a sudden, I couldn’t handle anything (when I called him out for talking to me harshly), I played the victim, etc.
Turns out he was taking to women on and off the whole time. I just stopped trying to talk to him about anything that he’s done, bc he becomes reacts irrationally. For the longest time, I believed what he was saying. I felt like I deserved. I couldn’t wrap my brain around how he changed sooo drastically.
I’m finally realizing before that he was trying to push me away and have me be the one to call it. His behavior now is because of guilt.
He had me move to another country w no family and giving up a decent career in which c certifications and schooling didn’t transfer here. Then ultimately having me stay home with our son who has had multiple medical issues. So, no money, no support, can’t go home, yeah… guilt. Instead of acknowledging it, he just gets mad and avoids it.
Erin, I am so sorry for you. You are in a foreign country with no support system and you have made all of the sacrifices and he has done nothing but tear you down, classic abuser traits too. I hope that you are able to leave and return to your home country, you could make the claim that the medical system is better in your home country for your child. Hell, he probably might not even care if you both leave since he seems to be on his next victim. I hope that you can keep in close contact with your support system and get out and start a clean life for you and your child somewhere else.
Hugs to you and your son, Erin.
I sort of feel bad for her but what did she expect? She took him back over and over and I find it hard to believe she actually thought he would change. I hope as an outcome of this she develops some backbone.
Also his being mean to her- I can only hope he is not lashing out in front of their children. That’s the most messed-up part of this. You can’t continue and obsessive over such a toxic relationship when there are small children involved.
cheating is destructive.
He’s emotionally abusive and so manipulative. She should deal with him through lawyers and find a babysitter or nanny to take him to and from his house.
Exactly right. Transport the kids with a nanny and only communicate through parenting apps or lawyers
I was having a conversation with my adult daughter last week and she was talking about working through some childhood issues with her Dad. She was 2 when he left, so I always felt she dealt with the split better than my son who was 4. I apologized and said I sometimes wished that I had moved across the county. It would have been rough without my family and friends, but he never would had spent money to spend time with them. He did everything he could to manipulate and harass me as long as he was paying child support. I never knew until their late teens how much on eggshells they were every other weekend.
You did the best you could! It’s impossible to know if the kids would have been better off if you moved. For all you know it could have been worse for them. Try not to feel badly about it.
Thanks Tealily!
That last photo of her and the kids is so sweet.
Came here to say the same! Her little boy is squish
Hes mad she sees him for who he is and acts on it instead of avoiding denying the truth to stay married. He feels exposed
The shame and guilt he feels is uncomfortable so hes mad at her that hes feeling that way so he projects that onto her because feeling the shame is too painful. Hes mad she held him accountable for his actions and ending the marriage is forcing him to do this so he blames her.
Toxic behavior for sure
Of course he would be mean, it’s become quite clear that he is a narcissist and that is exactly what they do when you no longer tolerate being in a relationship with them.
I find this woman unbearably annoying. Im surprized he stayed as long as he did lol