Prince Philip, apparently: ‘One steps out with actresses, one doesn’t marry them’

I don’t know how many times they’re going to churn through these same stories, but these pieces have never proven what they think they’re proving. Apparently, royal biographer Andrew Lownie has repeated the same piece of gossip that Prince Philip looked down his nose at then-Meghan Markle when she and Prince Harry were first dating and engaged. Philip hated her on sight because Meghan was an American and an actress. Of course, we’ve also been told that Philip hated Meghan because she reminded him of a woman he barely knew: Wallis Simpson, the Duchess of Windsor. These people are still rushing around to describe how all of the Windsors hated Meghan on sight really proves how they all “welcomed” Meghan and gave her all of the support she needed to thrive, correct?

When Prince Harry announced his plans to wed Meghan Markle in November 2017, he was hopeful that the Royal Family would welcome their joyous news. But the prince was met with a rather curt response from his forthright grandfather, Prince Philip, who issued the stern warning: ‘One steps out with actresses, one doesn’t marry them.’

Writing in his tell-all book Entitled, Andrew Lownie revealed Philip’s reluctant feelings towards the Suits star entering the royal fold – unsurprising, perhaps, given that the pair had embarked on a whirlwind 16-month courtship before Harry got down on one knee.

Meanwhile, according to royal biographer Ingrid Seward writing in her book My Mother And I, Philip was ‘one of the very few wary’ of being charmed by Meghan, 44, in the early days of her relationship with Harry, 41. Philip was also said to have thought it was ‘uncanny’ how much she reminded him of Wallis Simpson – the American socialite who King Edward VIII abdicated to marry. As such, the prince nicknamed Meghan ‘DOW’ after Wallis, the Duchess of Windsor.

Philip also wasn’t the only royal to have attempted to caution Harry about the pace of his relationship with Meghan, with his brother, Prince William, said to have felt ‘nervous’ about their upcoming nuptials. In January 2023 Harry discussed William’s warning to take it slow in his memoir Spare, writing: ‘”It’s too fast”, he’d told me. “Too soon”. In fact, he’d actually been pretty discouraging about me even dating Meg.’

However, Harry dismissed his family’s concerns, with it claimed that he believed he had to marry her quickly because her ‘biological clock was ticking’ as she was almost 35 years old, according to royal author Tina Brown. Despite their fairytale wedding in May 2018, the Sussexes love story quickly took a sharp turn when the duchess realised that the life of a princess was far from what it was made out to be in the books.

[From The Daily Mail]

This is what gets me every time: “Despite their fairytale wedding in May 2018, the Sussexes love story quickly took a sharp turn when the duchess realised that the life of a princess was far from what it was made out to be in the books.” All of the people who had “concerns” about Meghan and “warned” Harry not to marry her were not concerned about Harry, or whether the marriage would work out. The survival of the Sussex marriage shows that Harry and Meghan were and are in love and they’ve built a beautiful life together with their two children. All of these “concerns” were about Meghan fitting into an institution which was hostile to her from day one, because the institution was full of bigots, anti-Americans and racists. Philip and Prince William weren’t concerned that Harry was marrying a woman he loved after a “whirlwind 16-month courtship” – they were plainly worried that a woman like Meghan wouldn’t be weak and compromised enough to take their bullsh-t.

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64 Responses to “Prince Philip, apparently: ‘One steps out with actresses, one doesn’t marry them’”

  1. Seaside says:

    I remember seeing this story either just before Meghan gave birth to Archie or right after.
    These people…as they try to smear Meghan, they continue to show the world that they are horrible.
    They are so delusional that they seem to be unaware of exactly how they are painting senior members of the BRF with these stories.

    • Booboochile says:

      Wasn’t Phil 342 and1/2 years old 🤔

      • Lorelei says:

        Seriously, wasn’t there a story recently about how Elizabeth called for Penny to come over to “cheer up” Philip or something like that? And he was like 95 at the time (or older!). Super normal family 🤪

    • Happy Peregrine says:

      This quote is giving Regency historical romance vibes. Where a Duke meets a woman who is intelligent and beautiful and sharp witted and falls in love with her, finds out she’s an actress, realizes that he loves everything about her including her passion profession and changes all of Society – who think like Philip – to warmly accept, love and dote upon her by the sheer power of his station and his commitment to her.

      I used to love those books. And then I saw a Prince marry the love of his life and watched both be attacked and punished viscously by his family and his family weaponize absolutely everything they could against him and her.

      Books are escapism but now those romances are a little too fake for me to truly enjoy.

  2. Smatone99 says:

    We all know Phillip f@ anything that moved, AND the RF are desperate to align themselves with actors.. I hope cruise, blanchett, et Al pay attention. I’m wondering what the point is? Phillip was literally a wh^re. And?

    • DouchesOfCambridge says:

      Philip is long dead and gone. Philip had a live in mistress for so many years, he should’ve shut the f up. People are even wondering if penny’s kids are his, so he’s in no spot to give lesson to nobody. Same for other royals like tampon king and covid rosebushing lazy william, and escape weekend lover peter philips. They got nothing to write about. Harry says Meg was 35, can you believe she’s 44 and this sht is still going on?

      • All true and I find it fascinating that now that he is no longer living the stories of him hating her are coming out. He and the dead queen are very talkative lately.

    • Jay says:

      Well, Phillip seems to have made sure that he stepped out only with women in his own tiny little circle (including his wife’s cousin) and, it goes without saying, White. We shouldn’t forget how much racism played into their attitude towards Meghan.

  3. Dee(2) says:

    I could believe that someone who was 99 when they died 5 years ago would think something like this. What’s hard for me to wrap my head around is thinking that saying something like this in almost 2026 is going to be agreed with as a fair point. I keep saying this but they constantly insult other people in an effort to insult Harry and Meghan. And this is such a bad tack to take when you are a family that relies on co-opting other people’s popularity for relevance.

    I just don’t get how they think that they’re expanding their shrinking base by putting out this type of story, or that Elizabeth was angry that Meghan dared to wear white at her second wedding, or that Meghan is a woke buzzkill because she wasn’t okay with Harry’s friends telling homophobic jokes at a private dinner. You already have the people on your side who are okay with this, why are you saying this stuff in print?

  4. Eurydice says:

    Yeah – this quote, by a well-known racist who cheated on his wife multiple times, in book called “Entitled,” isn’t a sign of superiority no matter how the DM wants to spin it.

  5. Tessa says:

    How about cressida who had an acting career. She was in a,low budget horror movie. Philip hardly knew Wallis Simpson. The queen mother did not like Wallis. Philip and the queen and Charles visited the Windsors and they were very cordial. Theres a photo of charles greeting her in a friendly way. Scooter is horrid trying to break up the couple and the writers admire bratty scooter. Philip had mistresses he is not one to preach.

  6. Ciotog says:

    This makes Philip look like an absolute ass. These people will destroy the monarchy in their attempts to hurt Meghan and Harry.

  7. Smatone99 says:

    I was rereading parts of spare.. William really is a narc, he doesn’t look like one, he is one. He was constantly gaslighting people, especially Harry, but right from dating life, Harry no longer listened to his family. He said it over and over. It wasn’t Meghan who rescued the ‘dumb’ prince.. He fought because even though he grew up in it, he saw what was going on.

    • Tessa says:

      The family did not complain when Beatrice dated and later married Edo. He had an ex fiancee and they has a baby together. Or peter and Harriet both divorced decided to marry after only one year. Philip ultimately backed the c and c wedding. But peggs gets all judgmental over Meghan. Peggs who settled for keen after 10 years of dating and when no body else wanted him. Such hypocrisy

    • Lorelei says:

      It’s sad what a good job the BM did burning it into everyone’s brains for decades that Harry was the slow, “dim” party boy, while William was the responsible, duty-bound heir. It worked for a long time! And people who don’t pay that much attention to the royals probably still believe it. For those of us who have been paying attention, it’s so obviously untrue and the opposite of reality, but we’re in the minority. (Although I think as time passes, more people are waking up and realizing that William is just lazy, a liar and all-around loser.)

  8. Julia says:

    Phillip and Elizabeth supported Andrew giving him money and luxury homes. They turned a blind eye to him hanging out with sexual predators and his dodgy business dealings. Phillip was a terrible father so I don’t care what classist, xenophobic things he said about Meghan.

  9. Tessa says:

    Philip was from a different generation than Wallis. He barely knew her. Philip dated an actress called Cobina wright she was also an American socialite. She was way too good for philip and she had a very happy marriage.

    • Tessa says:

      Co b i n a wright turned philip down and moved on.

      • MsIam says:

        Supposedly Philip wanted to marry Cobina but Louis Mountbatton talked him out of it and convinced him it was in his best interests to marry Princess Elizabeth instead. So that quote was probably “advice” from Uncle Louis. Another man with sterling morals. /s

      • Tessa says:

        Cobina left him. He was ardently pursuing her (they were 17 at the time) and even wanted to follow her back to the USA), she got tired of him and walked away. Cobina did not want him anyway. so it was a moot point for her. I believe he dated others though. Elizabeth was still underage–Cobina married someone else in 1941. Cobina was from a wealthy family and was a leading “debutante” in the late thirties then she got a 20th Century Fox Contract and her leading role was a supporting part in Moon Over Miami with Betty Grable and Don Ameche.

  10. Sun says:

    Ew. So dehumanising.

    Brilliant point about Cressida @Tessa!!

  11. Fina says:

    I don’t believe this quote. People assume that Philip was snobbish enough to think this, it fits with his image and reputation as someone who „strayed“ with actresses. I don’t think Harry had anything negative to say either in his book or any of his docuseries on his grandparents, he also described how he was in touch with Philip via Zoom. I don’t think this would have been the case, if Philip had openly insulted his wife. Philip‘s friend Guy Brandreth or some name like that wrote after Philip‘s death that Philip defended Harry against criticism after Harry left, saying that Harry is a good guy and should be left in peace. The Queen and Philip showed up for a photo op with little Archie days after the birth. I don’t believe any of it. Was he snobbish and probably thought an American divorced actress as not quite up to BRF level? Maybe. Mean enough to say so to his grandson? No I don’t think so.

    • Jais says:

      Maybe it wasn’t Phillip who said this but William, lol. In the same article they remind us that William said the wedding was too fast but also that William discouraged Harry from even dating Meghan. Did Harry ever go into detail about what William’s problem was with Harry just dating her? Either way, yeah, this could be a made up story. It’s one that’s persisted though and that’s bc you can easily imagine Phillip saying. But yeah he stayed zooming with the Sussexes so he wasn’t that bothered by it.

      • Miranda says:

        I’m positive that the vast majority of these things that keep coming out that paint QEII in such a terrible light were actually said by William. He had them attributed to his grandmother because 1.) it adds more weight. No one really cares what he thinks, but people downright revere QEII, and 2.) she’s too dead to say otherwise. And now he’s doing the same with Philip. Which actually seems like yet another example of how stupid William is, really. You’d think he would’ve STARTED with Phil, given that it’s far more plausible that Phil, rather than QEII, would say something rude or derogatory (though I don’t think he did in this case. In spite of being a snob, a philanderer, and a terrible father, he did seem to genuinely care for his grandkids).

      • Brassy Rebel says:

        I can’t believe I’m gonna sort of defend someone in this awful family, but, yeah, I don’t believe this. Harry clearly adored his grandfather and kept in touch with him till the end. He never would have tolerated disrespect for Meghan from him or anyone. Philip was deeply flawed, classist and racist, but he loved Harry and seemed to respect his decision to marry Meghan.

    • Becks1 says:

      I agree. If Phillip ever said this it wasn’t within hearing distance of Harry. I also kind of feel like Phillip mellowed a lot in his old age and he was probably happy that Harry was happy. I’m sure still a snob, and i’m sure he looked down on Meghan AND Kate (probably Kate moreso than Meghan) but i just kind of feel like by the end he cared about Penny, keeping Sarah Ferguson away*, and probably saved his energy for the big issues.

      I mean when you look at the picture with Archie and QEII and Phillip they both look absolutely delighted with him. I don’t think they could have faked that.

      • Becks1 says:

        I didn’t finish my * comment, lol. I was referring to the time when Fergie was photographed at Balmoral and Phillip immediately got on a plane to Scotland to make her leave.

      • windyriver says:

        I agree, the emotion in the picture with Archie looks real, including Harry’s look of absolute peace and contentment. By this point, Harry had busted his butt for years doing the work Will wouldn’t do, and Meghan had begun to join him on visits (e.g., Birmingham). It would’ve been clear to TQ and Philip Kate was also pretty much of a loss – while TQ thought enough of Meghan to invite her on an overnight train trip within a month of their marriage (and be photographed openly chucking at something Meghan said). Both H&M have always spoken of his grandparents with fondness, and I take my cue from that whenever I hear this regurgitated BS from the media.

        Philip’s supposed remark is something I could easily see him saying years before to Charles – you know, the guy who reportedly said he wasn’t going to be the first POW without a mistress.

      • Nerd says:

        I remember in Harry and Meghan’s documentary when they described with the biggest of smiles how just before they introduced Archie to the world, they ran into Philip in the corridor. Then after they introduced Archie to us, the Queen, Philip and Doria all came together for that beautiful photo that was the first and only one of its kind. Not only was it the first of its kind because of a black grandmother being photographed with the QoE and her biracial granddaughter in law and biracial great grandson for the first time but because the casualness of the Queen being photographed for the first time with a great grandchild that was only days old. There was so much about that moment and that photo that the Queen and Philip took part in and I have a hard time believing that Philip would have done that if he didn’t like Meghan.

    • Nerd says:

      I don’t believe that Philip said any of this either. He was a horrible man in so many ways but he is the one who went through surgery prior to the wedding and when he could’ve had a good reason not to be there, he made sure he was there at his grandsons wedding. Looking at the interaction between Harry and his grandfather at the wedding when the Queen and Philip walked in and took their seats was the most human and touching interactions from his entire family. Philip was there because he loved and supported the union and nothing any of these other people say will ever take the place of what Harry felt and experienced regarding his grandparents. I believe that Philip cheated on his wife and was a bigot and horrible person in many ways but I think that Harry loved him because of who his grandfather was away from everyone else.

      • Lorelei says:

        It’s a good point and I agree that both Phil and Liz do look genuinely happy in that photo. But I can’t forget how we know for a fact all of the terrible things that Charles has done to both Harry and Meghan, and Harry clearly still wants a relationship with him. He might have had similar blinders on when it came to his grandparents because he simply couldn’t deal with losing or having to cut off any more family members. I hope I’m wrong, and that it’s just easier for the media to attribute all of these nasty quotes to people who are dead and can’t speak up for themselves (and who were far more respected than William is).

  12. slippers4life says:

    Philip’s last will and testament is being sealed for 90 years as not to cause “embarrassment”. He is a hanger on who stayed in a marriage in a time when you committed to the “optics” not had a lasting love. Not exactly someone anyone should take love or relationship advice from

  13. Ariel says:

    Remember ladies, the very best person to take marriage advice from is definitely a 100 yo racist who cheated on his wife throughout their entire marriage.

    He is a wealth of helpful, sage information.

  14. Maxine Branch says:

    All these article do is paint Prince Harry’s birth family as the racist we have learned they are. In addition, it shows us Meghan never felt welcomed and Harry knew this and got out of there once he saw she felt it was intolerable.

  15. Amy Bee says:

    I hope this means the false narrative that the Royal Family welcomed Meghan with open arms and did everything to support her won’t be used by the Palace and the press anymore. It was always a lie and the more these people speak about this the more I feel that we haven’t heard half of what the Royal Family did to her. It also confirms that there definitely concerns about Archie’s skin colour from family members and staff.

  16. ABritGuest says:

    This story has been going around for a while. I mean these royal authors should continue to push these points about how unwelcoming & prejudiced the royal family was towards Meghan as that just confirms what was said on Oprah. They cannot have it both ways – claiming Meghan was welcomed with open arms & the family was kind to her & then claim Philip said Harry shouldn’t marry an actress (no such claims about the actress that married into the family earlier Sophie Winkleman) & that Elizabeth was snarky on everything from Meghan wearing a white dress to name given to their daughter.

    And whether this claim is true or not given 3/4 of Philip’s children divorced, he allegedly had several mistresses which many suspect is why his will is sealed and one of his kids is ANDREW I doubt many are checking for Philip as some great voice on relationships

  17. ThatGirlThere says:

    Cressida is/was an actor and Chelsey Davy is a jewelry designer with her own business. But since Meghan was a successful working actor and made her own money she’s less than. Okay, Meghan never relied on the support of her rich parents the way the other rich girlfriends did. These losers acting like that’s a negative against Meghan shows their hypocrisy and racism.

  18. Becks1 says:

    So first off – this quote is old news as Kaiser mentions, so they’re just recycling these negative stories and trying to act like those against the marriage were right all along. (FTR while I can see someone of Philip’s generation saying something like this, I don’t think he ever actually said it because of how Harry speaks of him in interviews and spare.)

    Also is a 16 month courtship really a whirlwind? that seems pretty normal to me.

    But we do know that William cautioned harry against the marriage and while I think that part of his caution was Meghan specific (racism, xenophobia, competition/insecurity), I also think its clear that he never wanted Harry to marry, period. Remember the part of Spare where harry was talking to him about his future wife and how they (W, K, H, and Harrys wife) could work together etc or something like that and William was like well that might never happen and you need to accept that. This was pre Meghan, so it was more about the idea that William didn’t expect Harry to ever marry. he was never expected to have his own life.

    • Lover says:

      I agree, there is nothing whirlwind about a 16 month courtship, especially if you’re in your 30s. A 10 year courtship is pretty darn slow though.

    • Jais says:

      Yeah I don’t think William wanted Harry to ever get married for a number of reasons. Harry could entertain Kate at public events so he didn’t have to pay much mind. Harry could be sent to whatever country at any time when he didn’t have a wife. And Harry would look like the unstable one who couldn’t settle down while William would look solid. The house of cards has really fallen ever since Harry did marry.

    • Jay says:

      I agree, I think it’s clear from Spare that William never wanted nor envisioned Harry ever actually finding a partner and starting a family. In a weird way William seemed to have internalized the idea that Harry, the spare, was the lesser prize and nobody would want to marry him. It’s also pretty clear that the then-Cambridges thought that he would just be fun uncle Harry forever, available to go on trips and third wheel all of their events in perpetuity. For a couple that makes such a big deal about how important their own three kids are, it’s odd that they never seemed to want Harry to experience that.

      • Lorelei says:

        Totally agree! I believe that the reason William is still reeling six years later is because he actually believed exactly what you said, @Jay. He was completely caught off guard and shocked when not only did someone want to marry Harry, but also by the fact that M was such a catch and clearly so much better suited to the role than his own wife is. That is not something he or Kate ever contemplated, imo. Harry existed merely to serve them, in William’s mind. Then Meghan came along and blew up their worlds. ( :

  19. Over it says:

    These people really have no clue how horrible all their behavior and attitude towards a black woman makes them look. You know the worst part, one day Archie and or lily will see these articles and have to see for themselves and say wow , my dad’s family really were the worlds biggest racist . Granted Meghan sperm donor side are terrible too but my goodness, Just imagine growing up and seeing all this in black and white. It really reinforces how right Harry was to take his wife and child/children away from those bottom dwellers

  20. Honey says:

    I’ve always heard that the quote about “stepping out with an actress” was said by Philip in reference to (then Prince) Andrew’s relationship with Koo Stark, a porn actress that A very publicly dated well before Fergie. Not sure if it was ever attributed to Meghan.

    • upstatediva says:

      Thanks for saying this. I am old enough to remember this one in real time. Although, i don’t think she was in literal porn, becuz –tabloids. Not defending Phil’s racism, etc. But, given how long W & K kept him waiting for retirement by not stepping up “full-time”(2017), I think he might have been pleased to see that Meg stepped up during the engagement to do what counts as work in that family. (Not even counting the real ongoing work with the Hubb kitchen women that whole time.)

  21. Desert Diva says:

    The royal rota keep outing the royal family as being racist, classist, misogynistic and quite cruel. Harry’s grandfather thought Megan was okay to sleep with, but not to marry. What a charmer! The one Charles ‘stepped out’ with, but didn’t marry originally is now Queen. I would think considering that deplorable situation, all bets are off. Revealing the attitudes of Harry’s grandparents now that they have passed is not going to age well. They continue to look less welcoming, snobbish and quite hostile!

  22. HeatherC says:

    While I can see Philip saying this, I’m not sure I do at the same time. He was in the same era as Grace Kelly becoming Princess Grace after all.

    (They are so desperate they’re repeating stale barely interesting gossip.)

    • Calliope says:

      Ah, that makes a lot more sense.

      While I can well believe Phillip thought this but I can also see how, as a grandfather, he mellowed and would want Harry (who always wanted to serve) to be happy. And would be impressed by her work ethic.

  23. Beverley says:

    Apparently the rota rats are HELLBENT on portraying Phillip as a rampant bigot. We already know by his treatment of his wife that he was a disrespectful misogynist but they seem determined to cement his legacy in racism and disgraceful behavior.

  24. Magdalena says:

    I don’t believe that Philip said this at all. They have been pushing this lie, the same way they put out so many criticisms of H+M in the queen’s name, because it so quickly became VERY apparent that these two, above anyone else in that family, actually LIKED Meghan and admired her work ethic. THAT’s why. They want people to forget that Philip and Elizabeth both remained in contact with Harry and Meghan for a long time after they had moved to California, including having Zoom calls with them.

    Once the vipers in the palace discovered how close they had remained, they moved with lightning speed to cut off those connections (seized the queen’s burner phone, or blocked whoever was facilitating the secret contact – Eugenie(?) – from being alone with the queen). Then they proceeded to push out statements via the WhatsApp group claiming that the queen and Philip were “so disappointed, blindsided, hurt, upset, etc.”

    One fine day I imagine Harry will go on the record about their interactions with his grandparents and although we have a fair amount of evidence of that already (and his own account in his book and interviews), we shall see that it is in marked contrast to what the various “royal experts” have been claiming.

    It’s Opposites Day again, only this time, the writer(s) appear to be attempting to get ahead of some other news (either positive for Meghan, or negative for the leftovers).

  25. monlette says:

    I really doubt Philip said that. He proposed to an actress before he married Elizabeth. Sure, he has done more than his share of stepping out, but given that he was practically a gigolo in his youth, I doubt he would look down his nose at women for choosing acting as a career.

  26. QuiteContrary says:

    It’s like they came up with a plan titled How to Make the Royal Family Look Terrible.

    They just keep proving Meghan right: that they did nothing to help her, and she and Harry had no choice but to get the hell out of that snakepit.

  27. Lau says:

    Wasn’t it what he said to Charles about mistresses/Camilla ? I feel like their just twisting a dead man’s words to fit their narrative as per usual.

  28. Calliope says:

    I watched a documentary the other night on Margaret (“rebel princess” or something like that). They had interviews with her friends and ladies in waiting. At one point, one of the women said something like “I don’t like the new practice of marrying commoners at all. I prefer the old way – marry someone of your class, because the job is hard, and have your affairs on the side.”

    Whew. I think she was shading Meghan (I think they were married at this point) but the program made sure to include Kate as well as an example. And I just wanted to shake this lady — they tried this! Rather famously! With Diana. And it blew up in their faces because Charles is a petulant, disrespectful jackass. Granted, going the commoner route didn’t work either, because Kate hates the job.

    Meghan loved the man and was willing to do the job – and was very, very good at it. I can see QE2 and Phillip respecting that (and it looks like they did from what we saw) but it terrified the rest of Harry’s family as well as the royal rota.

  29. Gewels says:

    This comment had nothing to do with Harry. Lownie is lying through his teeth! Just for sales! The comment had to do with Andrew apparently – he wanted to marry Koo Stark, who was a British actress who seemed to do rather revealing photo shoots.
    I definitely remember reading about this somewhere. His father did not approve of the woman -;and apparently made it very clear.
    I doubt Phillip had much to say about any of his grandchildrens partners. He was just happy they found love.
    Thing is Lownie knows this has nothing to do with Harry, but he’s counting on the public NOT knowing that.

  30. bisynaptic says:

    I’m curious: is British society still so insular that “divorced American woman“ as a defining category of personhood still has traction?

    • Maja says:

      If you’ve ever read the daily comments in right-wing newspapers under articles like this one against Harry and Meghan = definitely yes.

  31. Maja says:

    It doesn’t matter who in the family said it, to whom, or when.
    It is misogynistic, sexist, misanthropic, and extremely arrogant and presumptuous. Who would want to have anything to do with people like that? Only those who think that way themselves.

  32. Tis True, Tis True says:

    Reading that, all I can think is how much better off the royal family would have been if Andrew had married Koo Stark. Have the feeling she could have handled him. She doesn’t seem to have had a peaceful life, so don’t know if she feels regret or relief.

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