Mel Gibson’s family thinks Oksana “pushed him over the edge”

38094, WEST HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA - Friday February 26 2010. A sombre-looking Mel Gibson shows up at the BOA steakhouse alone. Following an eight-year absence, the actor recently turned to the big screen with the thriller Edge of Darkness Photograph: David Tonnessen, PacificCoastNews.com

Ugh, we’ve got some various updates on various Mel Gibson stories. Yesterday, The Daily Mail started the rumor that Mel Gibson wanted to move to Australia after having such a rotten go of it in America – apparently, he’s put all of his American properties for sale. But… Mel’s rep refuted the story, so I guess America is stuck with him (BOO).

Next… a follow-up from People Magazine on Robyn Gibson’s letter defending Mel, which was leaked to TMZ and other sources. I think People was trying to take a pro-Mel tact, just because they seemed to look for a story about how his family is totally supporting him, but something got messed up. First, the unnamed “pal” of Mel’s tells People: “He has a good support system in his friends and family” and that his older kids are “absolutely” standing by him. As for the letter from Robyn, where she defended Mel as never “physically abusive,” the source goes on to say: “Mel didn’t ask Robyn for the affidavit, where she says that he never engaged in any physical abuse towards her. Robyn just felt that enough is enough and stepped in to show that she still values her marriage to Mel and that she is sick of the media portraying Mel as a heartless and abusive monster. Robyn feels that Mel was and is an amazing dad… and she is still very protective of him.” So Robyn was sick of seeing Mel portrayed in the media the way he was at home, I guess. BUT, how does the family really see all of these tapes where he’s screaming for his pre-Jacuzzi beej? They think that Oksana “pushed him over the edge. While they do think he needs help for his anger issues, Mel’s family is supportive of him.”

People Magazine also ran this article about what might or could happen legally between Mel and Oksana. The basics: Mel probably won’t go to jail, but will get some kind of probation. Oksana probably won’t be charged with anything. Also, there’s a lot of “gray area” in the law regarding documentation of domestic abuse, so Oksana’s tapes may be admissible, but maybe not. Also: so far, the justice system doesn’t think Mel is an “imminent threat” to anybody. Seriously?

Hand in hand on the red carpet with controlled smiles and loving exchanges, Mel Gibson and Oksana reveal no signs of the dysfunction and disorder in their relationship. However, recent reports have shed light on the true nature of their relationship, which was shrouded in scandal from it s beginning until it s violent and bitter end. These archived pictures show the couple throughout their  Fame Pictures, Inc

42447, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - Saturday July 10, 2010. Oksana Grigorieva, Mel Gibson's ex-girlfriend, leaves a Ralphs grocery store in Los Angeles. Mel Gibson was recently caught on tape admitting he punched the mother of his love child. Photograph: James Breeden/Jordan Lockhart/Pacific Coast News.com

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  1. MissyA says:

    Fuck Mel Gibson.

    That’s really all I have to contribute at this point.

  2. Tam says:

    if this was some black actor, his azz would have been indicted already. smmfh shame on his wife. mel is a grown man and i am sure this behaviour is not new; he is at the age where is behaviour should be improving, not getting worse

  3. Kitten says:

    Of course Robyn is going to say that because, really, who wants to admit that they were married to a monster for 28 years?

  4. Cheyenne says:

    As long as his family and his sycophants keep enabling him and making excuses for is behavior, nothing is going to change.

  5. gracie says:

    These people really have no shame. Am I REALLY supposed to believe that it’s all been kittens and roses up until he met Oksana? Really?

    Oksana did not “push him over the edge”.
    Mel jumped off that edge a while back of his own free will. I think he likes it that way cause now he can do whatever he wants. If he doesn’t get his way, he just screams and yells and calls people names until they do his bidding.

    I will bet you a million dollars that Robyn and those children were exposed to Mel’s brand of crazy for many, many years.

    Oksana was just smart enough to come up with the idea to tape him so the whole world can see what he really is. He will never be able to hide behind his Hollywood image again.

    I can only imagine that Robyn is relieved to finally not have to put up with his crap on a daily basis. How exhausting that must be…and soul destroying.

  6. Crash2GO2 says:

    Good point Kitten.

    I think there is enough evidence to indite Mel on at least two counts of domestic violence, as there is Mel’s admission that he hit Oksana while she held the baby, and the dentist’s testimony and photographs as to Oksana’s injuries.

    Personally, I don’t see how he could only get probation for that, but what do I know.

    *sigh*

  7. Been there says:

    Went to Netflix, searched Mel Gibson, marked every one of his movies “Not Interested.”

  8. Obvious says:

    I’m going to stand up for Robyn. Girl was smart and she made the distinction of physical abuse. she just new when to back down so it never escalated form there. Not to mention she’s got a fortune to protect in this divorce.

    I think both Mel and Oksana are despicable. She didn’t deserve it but i don’t think she’s completely innocent either. In those tapes she is baiting him, not that it gives him an excuse, but that baby needs to go live with someone else.

  9. Liz says:

    So who is responsible for his 2006 rant?

  10. nolanative says:

    You know that one blow up where mad Mel is blustering like a literal raging bull, I seriously thought that was some comedian parodying his earlier tapes. I call BS on People’s support piece. If his older kids support him, why don’t they just speak the hell up? Why does he only have quack case Whoopi and just got paid, ex wifey arguing in his defense. I say because there is no defense. He knew what Oksana was from the very beginning, this dude ain’t no young buck; he knew what the price of admission would be, he chose to deal with her. She just turned out to be smarter than the average gold-digga. He’d bullied, at least one woman, for so long he probably thought that this one would be a cake walk. Mel has support, yeah right; just smile and blow me why don’t cha.

  11. denise says:

    Robyn is in denial, this type of behavior does not happen overnight.

  12. OXA says:

    How is it Oksana’s fault that a man in his 50’s can not control his temper and is obsessed with blow jobs?

  13. H says:

    As if another person has the power to “push him over the edge”. He’s F’ing responsible for his behavior period.

  14. susieqinBA says:

    I look at PEOPLE’s report as stricly PR lies. Remember back in March they were stating “Inside Mel’s New Life” he and Oks were “quietly” building a life together and he has a second chance in life. Well, we found out just how “quietly” the life they were building together! Pull back the bed covers and find out what’s really there! “I don’t love you! It’s over! I don’t want you!” and so forth.

    I don’t believe his family are 100% support as they are making it out to be. I keep going to the question, “If they were supporting their father then wouldn’t they be speaking directly from themselves not thru PR?” I can’t help but feel that this is going to hurt Robyn a lot she is now under attack and a picture being painted of her as an abused woman who is deep denial. She holds the value of marriage? Why is she divorcing him? Mel parading Oks/baby slapping their marriage/family/kids public in the face humiliating them, that’s not heartless? Mel’s PR is really messing him up more with that headline “heartless, abusive monster”. Mel is being publicly humliated and slapped in the face today because of last year, he has pushed himself over the edge, Oks just sorta of brought him to “edge of darkness”. uhmmmmm, seems to fit in more way then one.

    It seems quiet on ROL today, wonder what’s going on with the rest of the tapes?

  15. j. ferber says:

    And Drew Petersen did not kill his first two wives, but he did kill has last two. OJ Simpson did not kill his first wife, but did kill his second. Abusers grow worse over time, especially when they are emboldened by getting no punishment/negatives for their abusive behavior. So even if Mel didn’t beat Robyn (and that’s a big if), it’s no reason why he wouldn’t have beaten Oksana. And I bet he did plenty to Robyn, including cheating on her incessantly throughout their marriage.

  16. sellwyn says:

    The dentist who treated Oksana Grigorieva does not believe she was struck in the mouth as she claims. His evaluation raises serious questions about her injuries. The woman is clearly out for the cash.

  17. denise says:

    I’ll tell you this, Mel must have pissed someone off, (besides Oxy) because these types of things are usually hidden from the public. I’m still pretty sure he is a looney tune, but maybe some things are being exaggerated, I really don’t know. The tapes are pretty damning though. They both seem really shady, and I am not blaming the victim here.

  18. Kitten says:

    Oh (faux) Kitten you sleigh me! Here’s some advice from (real) Kitten to you: your postings MIGHT be more persuasive if they didn’t contain so many obvious grammatical errors. In other words, you do no favors for the pro-Mel Gibson camp by showing that you didn’t pass 3rd grade English. Although, I suspect that many of his supporters are not the brightest….

  19. Whatever says:

    I love how strangers pretend to know what happened in their marriage. We have no idea, so give Robyn a break. She has never done anything but be a great mom and devoted wife for many years. I hate seeing her trashed and don’t think she deserves it.

    Just because a man is abusive in one relationship doesn’t always mean he is in all of them. Things like addiction, mental state and the dynamics of the relationship can make a difference. Maybe he respected, loved and admired Robyn more. Maybe she wouldn’t take any crap. Who is to say?

    We had a guy in my neighborhood when I was a teen who dated three of my friends, yeah a real douche. He was abusive in one of the three relationships and it was the one in the middle. He was an absolute sweetheart to the other two. Go figure. He did have addiction/mental issues and when he was using drugs and not taking his meds, he became a completely different and frightening person. Until we have some real evidence, let’s take Robyn at her word and give her a break. She seems like a normal and nice person.

  20. curious says:

    And why the hell all the claim AFTER 6(!!) month after the alleged incident?
    Did anybody ask?? SMTH is so not right in this whole thing,,,

  21. Chucha says:

    My stepfather almost killed my mother twice, but with other people he is the warmest person, wouldn’t hurt a kitten. But my mother somehow could find his buttons (and many other peoples’). I love my mother, but she can destroy anyone’s spirit, strength and composure, when she wishes to. I would not be quick to judge, you never know what is behind the scenes. Back off people, let them (him, her) show their faces, time will tell, remember.

  22. Crash2GO2 says:

    “The dentist who treated Oksana Grigorieva does not believe she was struck in the mouth as she claims. His evaluation raises serious questions about her injuries. The woman is clearly out for the cash.”

    He believes her injuries were consistent with being struck in the temple (bruising on the side of the head) causing her to bite down hard enough to break two veneers. Bite marks in her lower lip were also consistent with the bite down scenario.

    So yeah, much better he smacked her on the temple where it is much more likely to have been fatal, than a sucker punch to the mouth.

    You people are unbelievable.

  23. Kiska says:

    When Mel was arrested in 2006, he claimed to “own Malibu” He must have friends in high places because he seems quite protected. If this happened to anyone else their ass would be in a sling.
    I don’t get it. He made a bunch of movies. Big woop.

  24. aenflex says:

    The media is not portraying Mel, Mel on tape is portraying Mel.

  25. Kitten says:

    @ Crash- It’s a pretty sorry attempt to “defend” Gibson right? You know they’re reaching when they have to dispute WHERE she got hit.
    @ Kiska-The guy has some serious connections without a doubt. Amazing how fame & money = absolute power ….

  26. Kaiser says:

    Sorry about that people, there was a troll on here posting under multiple names. I caught him/her, deleted their posts and banned the person. I’m sorry I didn’t catch it sooner.

  27. Alias says:

    I think Mel’s drinking escalated after he and Robyn split up and he’s clearly the Jekyll/Hyde type who when he boozes it up goes completely batsh*t. I’ve known people who were nice as pie when they were sober but when they drank they became monsters. Perhaps Robyn managed to keep him from drinking excessively during their marriage but when they broke up he went on a longgggggg bender and it brought out the Mel from hell.

  28. Uzi says:

    @nolanative…

    “If his older kids support him, why don’t they just speak the hell up?”

    You obviously don’t know much about the Gibson family. They are extremely private. Robyn and her children have NEVER spoken to the press, and they stay out of the spotlight (even when they attend movie premieres they avoid the red carpet and sneak in a side entrance). “Blood is thicker than water,” so no matter what went on within the family throughout the years they’re going to band together to support their husband/father.

    @whatever…

    “…give Robyn a break. She has never done anything but be a great mom and devoted wife for many years. I hate seeing her trashed and don’t think she deserves it.”

    Agree with you 100%! Those of you that are calling Robyn a liar because she stated Mel never physically abused her: PLEASE STOP NOW!

  29. Obvious says:

    go Kaiser!

  30. RHONYC says:

    go kaiser, go!

    whew-hoo 🙂

    and ditto MissyA. well said.

  31. Green Is Good says:

    Dear Australia,

    Enclosed please find Mel Gibson, courtesy of the USA. Kindly stun gun him and throw him in the looney bin. Thank you.

  32. Layla says:

    @Uzi is right.

    Obviously the people commenting on this site have never had a bad break up and found out the other person was lying about something. I called my cheating ex everything under the sun when I found out he had been lying to me for YEARS. Those tapes sound sketchy to me and until proven authentic, I’m going to stick with innocent until proven guilty.

    If he really hit the child, she should be charged with child endangerment for keeping her child in that situation.

  33. xxodettexx says:

    i’m with kiska, denise, jferber and kitten…

    regardless of how she may have “pushed” his buttons, he has a history of ragey speech directed at another woman, a freaking COP at that [Sugartits, anyone??]

    i seem to recall apologists coming out of the woodwork back then to explain that rant away… i mean, how many excuses does an adult millionaire need??? he has the money to get the help, i dont want to hear any more excuses for filth like this

  34. jane16 says:

    kaiser, thanks for giving faux kitten the boot! Regarding Robyn, janetcharlton has a post up on her site saying that when they were young in Australia, Robyn would extricate Mel from bar fights and drive him home in her pickup truck! Sounds like she’s been covering for his ass for a long long time.

  35. andrea says:

    good lord, STILL reading excuses and “explanations” for mel’s behavior in the comments. ok, decision made – just not going to read anymore on this topic. there’s nothing entertaining about this topic and some of the comments are giving me a headache.

  36. Liana says:

    I think there is enough evidence to indite Mel on at least two counts of domestic violence, as there is Mel’s admission that he hit Oksana while she held the baby, and the dentist’s testimony and photographs as to Oksana’s injuries.
    ______________

    Unfortunately, all that evidence is, at the moment, hearsay. As long as one or two “experts” cast a shadow on the tapes, they might not be admissable and the dentist, unfortunately, never reported the alleged abuse as he should have. The pictures could also be considered worthless in court because it’s “he said, she said.” So yeah, this douchenozzle could easily end up with probation.

  37. lola lola says:

    Mel and Oksana deserve each other. She, a blood sucking, gold-digging vampire and he a slimey, racist, abusive old bastard.

  38. Jeri says:

    Yeah right, Oksana did it. (I think he’s been over the edge most of his life.)

  39. Kiki says:

    I read a blind that was clearly about Mel that he has hired a team of people to troll the websites and make pro Mel Gibson remarks. It is ridiculous – however it would explain how many people are trying to make Oksana out to be the bad guy in this situation. The man has had nothing but money and power for years and thinks he can do anything to anyone. He will never be able to convince me that he is a good or sane person after this whole fiasco.

  40. Jess says:

    I can’t believe People is trying to take a pro-Mel approach. That’s disgusting.

  41. OC lady says:

    Wow. At this point, we should think about making “BLAMING the Victim for her abuse” a national sport. It seems to provide a lot of sick thrills for many sick people on the internet.

    As for me, I listened to the tapes, heard what Gibson said, noticed how his lawyer never denied that was his voice. That’s all I need. Mel is a monster. He deserves to be investigated for the physical abuse and to be thrown in jail if it’s all true. While Oksana may not be a perfect angel, she doesn’t deserve what he did to her. NO ONE DOES. And, the whole blame thing just shows me that we haven’t really come that far when it comes to domestic abuse issues and how society views women in these situations. It’s just SAD, SAD, SAD. 🙁

  42. Stargazer says:

    To Sellwyn…please get your facts straight before posting anything. The dentist who treated Oxie for her injuries INSISTED on taking photographic evidence of those injuries to help support her claims of physical abuse. It is well documented that she went only for treatment of the chipped and loose teeth and the dentist is the one who insisted on taking pictures of her injuries as he recognized them as clear evidence of domestic abuse.

  43. jane16 says:

    Kiki, I just read that blind also. Pretty funny! Here’s a link:

    http://blindgossip.com/?p=20272#more-20272

  44. Cam says:

    Doesn’t matter if she screamed profanities about his mother, the man is responsible for himself and for physically assaulting her and threatening her. Shall we all now be excused for physical violence and threats if we perceive them as someone else’s fault? What if he perceives the toddler as “pushing him over the edge” ?? Men always blame their sickness on others, and women too often take in the blame. Moreover, how is she baiting him? She keeps trying to get off the phone and he keeps threatening her if she does. He rants and raves and threatens and insults her for minutes on end, and only deep into it does she react and then he comments happily, “Oh, NOW you’re angry.” She did nothing to bait him, and the person who keeps saying that can never back it up with anything real. Either she’s too calm or she’s baiting him, which is it? Bottom line, Mel Gibson’s family are despicable beings and like everything in life their “statement” is perhaps about MONEY. If he circles the drain, there goes the inheritance plus all the VIP privileges that go along with having a respected celebrity family name. All this article suggests is what real “people” already feel – People is a rag in the tank with celebrity publicists and the Gibson family sticks together in mutual sickness.

  45. Bobby says:

    There’s an article on a blog today saying Mel Gibson was screwing around on his pregnant girlfriend with a porn actress who said he was so abusive she went into hiding for a while.

  46. Kim says:

    OH plleeaaassee! Robyn & family HATE Oksana with all of their being. Of course they are going to say this.

    I just lost all respect for Robyn – what kind of woman protects a man who speaks to a woman like that? We have all heard him the tapes plus he has a history of saying racist remarks. There is no saying “he is a good man” – no he is a violent, alcoholic, racist! Robyn looks like an idiot defending this man!

  47. Jeri says:

    Kaiser: Thank you. Yours is my favorite site, besides having the best/latest posts on current gossip you & CB maintain the site so well. The comments on some other sites are almost impossible to read because of ads mixed with comments, etc. Not sure I expressed it that well but thanks again to you both for your devotion to keeping the site safe & clean for us.

  48. Cakes says:

    I find it interesting that Robyn has said that he never physically abuse her. What about verbally or mentally? If he was only this way with Oksana (HIGHLY unlikely) wouldn’t it make more sense for Robyn to say that Mel was never abusive in any way?
    If this was already discussed I apologize for being out of the loop. I refuse to see any Mel Gibson movie and will not buy people magazine now that they are pro-Mel. This situation is gross. The fact that anyone can defend Mel is digusting and inexcuseable.

  49. Crash2GO2 says:

    “Yes Mel is a douche but society luvs and forgives paedophiles, rapists and murderers as long as they are talented.”

    As a card carrying member of society, I can safely assure you that I do not ‘luv’ or forgive paedophiles, rapists and murderers.

    Now run along and collect your paycheck from Mr. Gibson.

  50. Obvious says:

    When you are dealing with someone like Mel Gibson, staying calm and such is baiting him. If she had gotten angry-she can still say the same things but been angry with her voice-or showed emotion) it gives him the reaction he wants and he’d drop it. it’s that calm thing that drives ppl like him up the wall and makes them angrier.

    it is baiting. again this does not excuse what he said or did. in anyway. i jsut do not think she is a perfect innocent angel. she is a golddigging homewrecker.

    and to whomever said Robyn is divorcing Mel-that’s false. he’s divorcing her. He filed when he started with Oksana.

  51. Mairead says:

    Not defending Mel in any way as ultimately each person decides how far they will let someone push them – but I can see what they mean. I had roommates once. Individually nice people, together beyond toxic. He was a charmer but with a serious fucking anger problem though and she had a habit of needling and punching him (he was normal sized but she was a skinny little malinks). He later found a lovely girl who knew when to draw the line with his nonsense.

    Another celebrity example – but without the happy fists, as far as we know – is Tommy Girl, Nicole Kidman and Katie Holmes. Nicole seems to have kept a lid on his nonsense and helped distance Tom from Scientology, However, when they broke up he found Katie who seemingly wasn’t able to handle him and presumably made her wind up a shell of her former self.

  52. sunnyjyl says:

    You can’t push someone over the edge unless they have walked out to the precipice. He owns all of it.

  53. Crash2GO2 says:

    As far as Robyn goes, I’ve no doubt that she’s been enabling him for years and years.

    Obvious, in at least on of the tapes, Oksana does start fighting back. It doesn’t seem to have helped her much.

  54. Ruffian9 says:

    Been there: Stellar idea!

  55. Ruffian9 says:

    “When you are dealing with someone like Mel Gibson, staying calm and such is baiting him. If she had gotten angry-she can still say the same things but been angry with her voice-or showed emotion) it gives him the reaction he wants and he’d drop it. it’s that calm thing that drives ppl like him up the wall and makes them angrier.

    it is baiting.”

    Yes, get hysterical. That always makes things better. Stupidest post in this thread

  56. OhCamille! says:

    I read that BlindGossip item too and I had an ahhhhhh! moment. I was wondering why their seemed to be so many Mel supporters on earlier threads….now, it makes sense that he had to hire minions to do damage control.
    Well CB, you should feel good!!! Mel Gibson thinks your site is important and feels the need to infiltrate the conversation. You have obviously been effective in posting your opinions about him. Good going!
    What. a. toad.

  57. cantbelievethis says:

    “pushed him over the edge. While they do think he needs help for his anger issues, Mel’s family is supportive of him.”

    That quote was very telling. I’ve been around lots of people who blamed the ‘mistress/other person’ for everything. I know my dad could’ve become a serial killer and his 2nd wife (who he left for another woman)would’ve blamed the 3rd wife.

    One article pointed out if Robyn said that yes, Mel’s always been abusive people might bash her for letting him around their 7 kids.

  58. Debbie says:

    Uzi, Whatever totally agree with you guys about the Gibson family.

    Could not have put it better.

    So according to most of you Mel is a monster.
    I would call a monster someone like Polanski who committed statutory rape on a under aged girl, skipped the USA and reckons he did nothing WRONG.

    Mel is bipolar and is an alcoholic, Even some of her friends have said in the past this was never a good relationship.

    So there are faults on both ways,

    As I have said many times I do not condone what was on the tapes But you really do have to query her, She should have filed a report IF/when it happened, go through the Correct channels NOT the tabolids
    OK then She claims he left a bruise on Lucia.

    If she was such and adoring wonderful mother why did she not cal 911 straight away, Her Dentist may have taken one pic but he did NOT follow the state protocol and file a report in the time limit. Which I gather is a legal requirement.

    If she was such a incredible mother WHY did she leave Lucia and travel with Mel all over Europe? Leave her with her Mother Whom allowed Mel to have an overnight visit with her.

    Debbie

  59. Emily says:

    @Obvious, I think remaining calm is the best thing she could have done in that position. What if she got all fired up and said something like “why don’t you come over here and say that?”, or “why don’t you say it to my face?”. By remaining calm she had her best chance of not doing or saying something stupid.

    It’s like when kids are being bullied, and get told to “just ignore them and they’ll leave you alone”. No matter how the victim responds, they’re still the victim.

  60. Lin99 says:

    I have to back Robyn a bit here….Mel is a terrible person, but if he never hit her I can understand why she would let people know that. He probably was angry and verbaly abusive….but women will take those two for years and walk out the door the second they get hit… I have heard “Well it’s not like he beats me” a hundred times before

  61. Parker says:

    #50, you win an award for one of the dumbest most contorted comments ever. You being paid to spread poorly thought out propaganda??? Anyway isn’t camp Meltdown claiming the tapes are fake, the pic is fake, the dentist is lying? If nothing really happened, there was nothing to “provoke.” LOL.

  62. great808 says:

    Robyn must be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

    Mel needs to stop blaming his victims for HIS bad behavior.

    Nobody forced him to do anything. It’s all a part of his own mental/emotional aberrations.

  63. anon says:

    @ obvious: When you are dealing with someone like Mel Gibson, staying calm and such is baiting him. If she had gotten angry-she can still say the same things but been angry with her voice-or showed emotion) it gives him the reaction he wants and he’d drop it. it’s that calm thing that drives ppl like him up the wall and makes them angrier.

    it is baiting.

    Yes, showing no emotion is the key, no one said anything about getting hysterical or fired up, and some of the comments to ‘obvious’ are very rude. When someone is playing you (in whatever way, lies, deceit, manipulation) and you get angry about it and try to resolve it, and the person takes no responsibility for their actions and acts like it’s all your problem; and from personal experience my boyfriend said that he actually watched the whole conversation from up in the corner of the room while he exhibited absolutely no emotion but would sit and hold his finger up to his chin like he was thinking about something i said, but 10 minutes later when i would ask for a response he’d say, oh what? ( i researched this and it’s call disassociation, and it comes from a childhood trauma)
    i realize this doesn’t sound like such abuse and it’s really hard to describe what i went through but it is crazy making seriously and i’m thankful that i survived this kind of insidious abuse, you don’t know what’s it’s like till you experience it, believe me you don’t want to!

  64. Ty says:

    Mel Gibson hired ghost posters. That’s filed in the “Duh” folder.

  65. Shay says:

    Robyn was the enabler.Few mention that Robyn has followed the same Catholic brand of religious extremism that Mel follows and didn’t object when he built his own church in Malibu. Robyn shares his outdated religious beliefs, so for all we know, they divide women into two categories: saints and whores and Oksana – to them – belongs to the latter group. These sorts of religious extremists rely on hindsight bias to justify their reasoning (like Robyn defending the abusive alco moron that Mel is and Mel using this to justify Oksana being a ‘whore’).
    I don’t care how many media commenters say Robyn is ‘respected’ in Hollywood. This I really doubt. Who really respects a woman who continually gets pregnant (because she doesn’t believe in contraception, when her husband screws around – probably without condoms, as we see with Oksana’s pregnancy) and hangs around after her husband’s horrible behaviour? Mel’s religious, by its outdated nature, means that he’ll probably go on porking women without condoms. I’m amazed he hasn’t caught a disease already, or he probably has herpes or something.
    Either way, if he was black, he would have been arrested and charged already, but because he is a) white b) a billionaire and c) has a doormat ex-wife who is just as religiously outdated as he is, blindly supporting him, he isn’t charged with anything.
    If he was ordinary Joe Schmo in Australia, and uttered all these things, he wouldn’t be given partial custody of his daughter.
    To Robyn and Mel, Oksana (or any other women Mel isn’t married to) is a whore. It’s their mentally deficient way of processing things and getting by and I don’t know how anyone can get by after all those tapes that portray his racism and sexual dominance.

  66. Whatev says:

    Oksana lost all credibility when she sold the pictures and the recordings to RadarOnline. If she went to the police I would have had more respect for her and her position. Now, I can’t believe a thing she says.

    I am not on a side. I simply think both Mel and Oksana are to blame for their mess of a relationship. Both are unfit parents and despicable human beings. Neither one deserves the pity people are giving them. They both made their choices. Now, they must live with them.

    Those supporting Oksana as a “victim” are just as pathetic as those who say Mel is not responsible for his actions. No one knows anything about the validity of the recordings or the pictures. It’s ALL gossip at this juncture. Until it has been validated by an impartial expert I can’t believe any of it, because both Oksana and Mel strike me as big LIARS.

    And the posts in this thread supporting one side or the other? Pathetic. Fear-mongering women who want to put Mel Gibson up as the poster child of women-beaters and Oksana up as the poster-child of victims. Well, boys and girls, must be nice to live in a world where everything is so clearly right and wrong.

    The problem with that kind of thinking is that one day your mistakes could be blown up in a custody hearing where your ex creates a one-sided story only to justify full custody of a child or children. People have become so preoccupied with “right” and “wrong” and “good” and “bad” that justice has lost all meaning.

    The only thing that matters in this whole situation is:

    a) The validity of the materials presented by Oksana. (Why weren’t they submitted to the police? Why were they sold/given to RadarOnline?)

    b) The extent of the abuse Oksana experienced at the hands of Mel Gibson… verbal, physical or both? Why have these problems resurfaced after prior counselling?

    c) The fate of the daughter. Who can provide a more loving home for the child? A father who screams at his girlfiend or a girlfriend who creates a scandal by dragging the father’s name through the mud?

    What gets me about this entire thing is that Mel Gibson’s profitability is on a serious decline. If Oksana had simply waited and got child support payments through legal channels she would likely be far better off than going to the tabloids. This woman strikes me as incredibly selfish. Her daughter should have been her primary concern – not revenge against her ex-boyfriend. She ignored all legal channels and went straight to destroying his reputation. It makes her appear like a woman scorned.

  67. *****Mya2sense says:

    I was wondering when the porn star was going to resurface – I remember reading somewhere she had to go into hiding to escape any connection with Mel – in my view anyway. I think Mel scared the slut outta her – she’s probably housed up in some nunnery in the mountains.

    He obviously cares about image with Oskanna (you make me look bad – you look like a Vegas whore – if you get raped…) but with the polish porn star, it’s okay? Mind you, nothing against porn stars, just saying – it seems he has a ‘do as I say, not as I do’ policy.

    If the PR grooming is true, they are only damaging Mel at this point because his past behaviours are biting him in the arse – I’m almost wondering if that’s too much credit though. Why would gossip websites matter in this situation? Are they that stupid to pay people to do that?

    Oooh no, you don’t have to pay because there are tons of people who don’t give a crap, come on forums and stir shit because they can – and enjoy other people’s offence/defence.

    Personally, I don’t think Oskanna is a whore – she didn’t blow him on demand – that’s a whore, right?

    Just saying;)

  68. Mistral says:

    Staying quiet is “baiting” him? HAHAHA. Bullshit. Staying calm is the best thing to do in the face of rage, because you don’t want to feed into their out-of-control emotions. Fighting back only escalates things. I agree with the poster above who said no matter how a bullied kid reacts to a bully, they have still been bullied! Mel’s PR people and family aren’t doing him any favours when they make excuses for him.

  69. Jello says:

    Dear Obvious. Your post is the most nonsensical thing I read all day. I think you need to change your screen name.

  70. Sincerity says:

    @Ty

    I agree with you 100%. I’m quite sure that Oksana has her own “hired hands” to do her bidding, too. She’s the one who initiated this “PR Battle Royal” and Team Mel had no other choice except “to point out inconsistencies” in her allegations. All’s fair in love and war; however, it’s never a good idea to throw stones when you’re living in a glass house. You just might get cut with your OWN broken glass.

    Frankly, I really don’t understand why so many of you are so worried about Oksana. She’s been “playing people” all her life and “putting the screws” to Mel Gibson and his family is just another game to her. Regardless of the outcome, just as soon as her cold sore heals, she’ll just prowl around until she finds another well-to-do “trick daddy” to “go down on” as a means to solidify another “meal ticket”. As one of her former long-term lovers has said, she’s “an opportunist”. Will she change? Some how, I doubt it!

  71. Cirque28 says:

    A guy I know was mugged recently, so naturally I said, “Why did you provoke someone into mugging you? You’re manipulative! If you even WERE mugged, which I highly doubt.”

    My acquaintance mentioned that the mugger has prior offenses but I said, “Not for the exact same thing!” Then I produced a person who was walking down the same street at the same time and said, “Since THEY didn’t get mugged, clearly you are lying.”

    Then I inquired into how the mugger was holding up emotionally. (Not very well, apparently. Poor fellow– he’s the real victim.)

  72. CB Rawks says:

    Awesomeness, Cirque28! 😀

  73. Anne de Vries says:

    Layla: If he really hit the child, she should be charged with child endangerment for keeping her child in that situation.

    Oh right! If HE hits the child, that is obviously HER fault! Because nobody could possibly expect a man to do something so crazy as NOT HITTING CHILDREN!

  74. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Shy: Robyn is a an episcopalian. Mel mentions in one of his rants that ‘they had no common ground’ and that is why they are divorced.

    Cirque28: Great illustration of the twisted logic some are trying to sell here!

  75. cedar falls says:

    @Ann de Vries: “Oh right! If HE hits the child, that is obviously HER fault! Because nobody could possibly expect a man to do something so crazy as NOT HITTING CHILDREN!”

    I think you’re missing the point. If Mel hit Oksana and she feared for her and her daughter’s safety, why keep the child in that situation for FIVE WHOLE FREAKIN’ MONTHS?!! If Oksana had walked back in January, fine, but she CHOSE to put up with the ticking time bomb to further her case whilst her poor daughter had no such option, and that is why she is a bad mother.

    As for Mel’s other children, if he’d been verbally/emotionally abusing their mother for years, why were they all celebrating Father’s Day with him? Grown children have cut off contact with their parents for much less. Unless you believe they were all brainwashed, obviously!

  76. Mistral says:

    Excellent job, Cirque28!

  77. Purrcila says:

    I worked in a domestic violence court for 10 years writing petitions for court and doing advocacy–this is all about Mel’s power and control problem. He had these same issues with Robyn but more than likely she was very submissive. It’s not odd that she’s defending him as she’s still under his control and beleives she loves him. I hate how Oksana is getting blamed for “baiting”–we often told victims to record the abuser on the QT. I don’t like the fact that she was seeing a married man but the fact is Mel Gibson is abusive, emotionally and physically. I will never watch anything he produces/stars in nor will I support his weird Hollywood friends who think he’s a victim.

  78. irishserra says:

    Wow, nobody will allow this asshole to take responsibility for himself, will they? (I’m referring to his family). Yes, Oksana may be greedy and conniving, but the fact is that she was just one of many that Mel was cheating on his wife with. He’s been a cheating, lying manwhore for decades and it’s finally, FINALLY catching up to him. SUFFER BASTARD!

  79. Peggy Guthrie says:

    I don’t think Mel’s family/friends are making excuses for him. It’s called It’s called being a “character witness. Pretty wild that the wild west mentality still exists: the “String him up” onee. Some of you people who have the most problems are the ones who love to critisize as it makes you appear to be the normal ones. Ha. I’ve only heard positive things about Robyn Gibson, het it is folks who don’t know her are giving her a hard time. Fair? Mel has often credited her with being a strong person. Sure, Gibson is wealthy but he worked for it. Do your research and find out that he was on probation for a few years after his DUI. If you want to be accurate, look it up, or shut up.

  80. Quincy41 says:

    I think we should just leave the poor guy alone. I don’t think what he did to his wife was right. but he is human. I think right now he is under alot of unecessary pressure because he is trying to make a point about the way the world is going. to concentrate just on the negative without out looking at what he is saying is true, that maybe he is trying to tell the world to wake up. I do believe that celebrities need to be positive roll models for Our youth and the country. Look at all the Violence on TV and the music that people listen to. Not all of it is good for the soul or the mind. I think Mel Gibson is trying to make a point. What is it going to take for people to wake up?

  81. Quincy41 says:

    I would also like to say. Leave the poor guy alone and concentrate on the bigger problems in our country that we have going on today. Like for instance the War that is going on, and the recession or better yet depression that is going on. and other horrible things that are going on I mean really.yes he made a mistake with his wife but that can be rectified. what he is saying about what is going on this country that is wrong and bad and going on with our country. We do need to listen to him. It is time to wake up!!!!