Beyonce’s latest “lighter skinned” album photo causes controversy

This is a just-released image from the photo shoot for Beyonce’s 4 album artwork. And what an art project it is, eh? This one image has already scored yet another round of “Beyonce systematically lightens her skin in post-production” complaints. One of the first times this happened was back in 2008, and was probably not even Bey’s fault – it was an ad for L’Oreal, so the company probably decided to lighten Beyonce’s skin color. But since then, Bey has been criticized several more times. I noted back when he discussed the original art work for 4 and the first video from the album – Beyonce’s weave was especially blonde, and her skin looked really, really pale in those photos.

She faced controversy back in 2008 when her skin appeared shades lighter in an advertisement. But it appears Beyoncé – or her producers – have not learned their lesson. A promotional picture has emerged of the pop princess looking much paler than her usual colour.

The new photo, taken before the 30-year-old fell pregnant with her newborn daughter, are being used to re-advertise her fourth album, 4, which was released last year.

In the seductive pose, Beyoncé dons a blonde wig and lies on a leopard-print couch, wearing a skimpy black crochet monokini. She also wears suspenders and a lashing of dark red lipstick. Experts told The Sun the appearance may have been down to lighting used in the studio. However this is not the first time the wife of rapper Jay-Z has accused of appearing to ‘lighten’ her skin.’

It has been alleged that in the early days of award-winning band Destiny’s Child her father Mathew Knowles had persuaded her to use skin treatments to remain the lightest-complexioned member of the successful girl group. And some commentators have expressed fears, that these images of the superstar singer – who is famous for her honey-toned hair and complexion, could have the effect of making darker-skinned black girls ashamed of how they look.

In August 2008, cosmetics giant L’Oreal was accused of ‘whitewashing’ the star in an advert by digitally lightening her skin. And last February, a very blonde Beyonce stepped out, wearing a black minidress which revealed unusually pale skin on the star.

At the time writer Yasmin Alibhai-Brown accused the singer of ‘betraying all Black and Asian women.’ She wrote in The Daily Mail: ‘Too many black and Asian children grow up understanding the sad truth that to have dark skin is to be somehow inferior. Of course, black and Asian parents work hard to give their children a positive self-image and confidence in their appearance, despite the cultural forces stacked against them. But when black celebrities appear to deny their heritage by trying to make themselves look white, I despair for the youngsters who see those images.’

At the time, the cosmetics house denied that the pictures had been altered in such a way but The New York Post newspaper called the advert ‘shocking’ and accused it of making the singer look like a ‘weird, nearly white version of herself’.

She has not commented on the photos.

[From The Mail]

Yes, the whole “lighter is better” complex is felt in the Asian communities too – Freida Pinto spoke about the fixation with lighter skin amongst Indian women last year too. My thought? If it was an odd advertisement where Bey may or may not have had control over, I would think the controversy should not fall at Beyonce’s feet. But this has been happening with Beyonce for YEARS. In promotional images, in magazine photo shoots, in advertising, her skin is almost always lighter than it is in “candid” photos. Sometimes, there really is a conspiracy. And I don’t understand why Beyonce is still so obsessed with putting herself out there like a blonde white woman. For why?

Photos courtesy of WENN, Beyonce Online.

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  1. moopsie says:

    yeah that really looks like her

  2. samira677 says:

    This looks nothing like Beyonce. Not because of the skin tone but her face. Way too much photoshop.

  3. laura says:

    Whoa, she looks like RuPaul. And not even in a sarcastic way, she really looks like him.

  4. Laura says:

    Whoa she looks like RuPaul. And not even in a sarcastic way, but she really looks like him.

  5. kazoo says:

    she looks like gaga with a nose job in that picture. if they were gonna go overboard with the photoshopping, why not give her some boobs too? but that lingerie is hot.

    maybe she wants to be a blonde white woman just like her bestie gwyneth? LOL. jk. maybe.

  6. Katie says:

    Are you sure that isn’t RuPaul and not Beyonce? And she wonders why pepole thinks she faked her pregnancy?

  7. Cilo says:

    Put on some clothes for a change girl, your music is also getting pretty dumb lately!

  8. paola says:

    she’s not like her at all, she’s not so skinny in real life and of course not blonde or fair skinned. no words can describe how much i dislike her so much right now. she has a beautiful talent but she shits all over it trying to convince us all that she really is humble, simple and accepts her body for what that is. yeah sure. my ass.

    • Kara Ann says:

      I don’t usually post on Beyonce’s threads but when I do it’s always to say this…She is talented! Why oh why does she have to F that up?

      Now I find her annoying!

      • Capeesa says:

        Beyoncé is talented. She can dance her @$$ off, but she is over exposed. I know she has to keep her name in the minds and on the tongues of her followers, but she should sit down and let someone else make some money, and yes, put on some clothes. Sorry, not hating, but really tired of hearing about her. She is not the first broad to drop a BABY and get good loving. It ain’t always about the best things money can buy. (Am I hating?)

      • paola says:

        does she realize that we actually know that she has big hips and black skin? or maybe she thinks we live in a bubble and we believe all the crap the magazine write or the pictures they edit with photoshop? i really used to like her, wearing those skimpy costumes or clothes, fearless, fierce and not being exactly a size zero, but then the fake pregnancy rumors,the stealing from other artists performances, the wanting to look always superskinny, the blonde hair and white skin obsession.. girl do you realize how lucky you are? stop fooling yourself ( and us!)and just do what you can do best: SING!!

      • aprayerforthewildatheart says:

        “does she realize that we actually know that she has big hips and black skin?”

        This had me LMAO!!!

  9. Sue says:

    Doesn’t even look like her……

  10. Coby says:

    She looks like a hooker. Great role model for her daughter. Look cheap, promote yourself?

    • Hakura says:

      This is true, but at least she looks like a ‘high class’ hooker, as opposed to how Christina Aguilera looked during her ‘Dirrty’ phase. *shudder*

      • SamiHami says:

        Seriously? I don’t see anything high class about her, in this pic or elsewhere.

        I don’t get it, though. She is a cute girl (not the world class beauty that I keep reading that she is, but certainly cute). Why be photoshopped to oblivion?

        I just don’t get why she is so phony. Faked up photo, faked pregnancy…why not be proud of who and what you are?

  11. Blakesley says:

    I’m glad you guys are addressing this issue.I am a Black woman who is light-skinned,but I didn’t know about this kind of self-hatred and colorism until recently.I have always hated Beyonce though because the media acts like she is the only pretty Black woman.Kerry Washington anyone?

    • Asli says:

      I totally understand what you’re saying. I’m biracial (Danish father, African mother)but my cousins who are dark skinned were always treated differently than I was when we were out. I resently talked to them and they told me how they hated their skin when they were younger and how they wanted to bleach etc. (they are DROP DEAD GORGEOUS btw, and I’m not even being partial towards them, I have some serious jealousy going on) But it’s hard fitting in when you’re the only -insert skin color here – in the class and people want to treat you like sh*t. I went to a private school (the only black girl there) and got bullied to the point where I had bruises on my legs when I got home and couldn’t walk for three days straight and I hated school up until I started high school and got away. By that time I needed therapy – and I have the most amazing therapist EVER! – but it’s hard on a kid when all people see is skin color. It really has to start at home and parents need to help their kids accept themselves as well as others.

      *Sidenote: Golden Globes = Worst. Dresses. Ever. (I’m channeling comic book store guy from the Simpsons)

      • Hakura says:

        Ugh, that’s so disgusting, the way you were bullied, & over something as ridiculous as ‘skin color’… It’s hard for me to fathom passing judgment on someone because of their skin color.

        It’s asinine, but the only reason I can figure, our society still hasn’t outgrown the historical (think, middle ages) ‘roles’, which had the white (upper class) indoors, & everyone else (lower-class whites who ended up with tans & black/hispanic/ect slaves) doing hard labor outdoors.

        You’d think we’d have gotten past this all by now.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        That’s so awful, I’m glad things got better for you. I hope your relatives got a hold of some inner peace, too, it sounds like they did. However, that insidiousness of self-doubt is hard to chip away, especially if none of the circumstances that brought you to it change and it all has to come from within and look to those same positive and grounding influences as you hopefully had growing up. Age, wisdom and persistence, those are your best tools. Did any of your teachers, other adults in your life try to intervene on your behalf? It seems unlikely that no one had any idea of what was going on. It’s also sad that it’s in the youngest that these kinds of attitudes are so strong, but maybe age and education smartens them up? I’m really glad to hear you’re doing better. I’m kind of wondering how old you are, but I wouldn’t force it.

      • Asli says:

        That’s not even the worst of it. They used to follow me home and choke me and kick the backs of my legs and spit at me. They used to throw my book bag in the trash can after lunch which was disgusting cuz’ they had just thrown their leftovers in there too. They used to lock the doors so the teachers couldn’t get in and then they’d choke me and slap me. I remember once after school when I was in the 5th grade I had gotten in a fight with some girl because of something she’d said, it turned out that her older sister was ”the popular girl” and in the 9th grade and she got everybody to surround me after school and slap me around until I apologized. They called me everything from the ‘N’ word to gorilla.

        Then when I started high school I used to get anxiety attacks just walking down hallways and if I was late I’d literally lock myself in the janitors closet (LOL) and wait until the next class started. My therapist says I suffered from social phobia and depression which is mostly ‘cured’ now. I don’t hyperventilate when I have to talk to people :P

        @ Jo ‘Mama’ Besser – No, no teachers ever intervened even though they knew and sometimes even saw what was going on. I had to talk to a guidence counselor when I was 16 because I was moving away from home (whole other story) and I broke down. She suggested a therapist for me. I’m 17 :D

      • Hakura says:

        Jesus, that’s not ‘bullying’, it’s full scale assault. I can’t believe no one *did* anything to help you…The whole thing just leaves me speechless, honestly.

        I would have fallen apart long before you did. You’d have to be pretty strong to keep dealing with it for so long, all alone. & amen, to the therapist thing. I’ve been going a few months now, & it really does help.

      • Asli says:

        Hakura – Yes, it really does help. I’m shaking right now just thinking about what happened but before I wouldn’t even spare it a thought. I thought it was normal feeling like sh*t 24 hours a day. I think.. I mean, I’m pretty smart – straight A student – so I just covered it up and was ‘the smart kid’ and then when I finally talked to my therapist I could hardly breathe because it all welled up again. Put that with a sh*tty home-life and it was practically impossible for me to wallow in self-pity because then I probably wouldn’t be here today. Sorry if that sounds harsh.

      • Sienna says:

        @ Hakura
        Well I live in Europe and over here it’s not “the lighter the better”. I am a fair skinned blonde and I can tell you tanned is much more popular here, as are mixed, mediterranean or any type of ‘exotic’ looking people. In fact I’ve been called out for being ‘too pale’ numerous times even though I can’t change my skin color either.

      • Asli says:

        Sienna – I live in Europe too. And well… I mean, you can read what happened to me. Where you live isn’t the issue. It’s who you live with.

      • aprayerforthewildatheart says:

        Asli, reading your story made me cry. I’m so happy for you that you are in a better place now. Any time you’re different than the majority bullying happens, it happened to me too and it made me strong. You are stronger because you’re a SURVIVOR, and you got through it alone. They all needed each other to bully ONE person, they are pathetic and will suffer when they go out into the real world because they wont know how to stand on their own. You on the other hand will do just fine :D

      • Asli says:

        Aprayerforthewildatheart – Thank you so much! And don’t cry :( I feel like bullying of every kind is FINALLY getting the needed exposure and hopefully more people won’t have to go through such a horrible thing. When you’re a kid you don’t know that you’re being bullied. You just accept it and it really does haunt you for a very long time. I was actually student body president AND valedictorian which was really weird since everybody hated me :P Survivors rock! I’m in a really good place rigth now. I have my own apartment, a job, I go to school and I have a kitten, Luna!

      • Hakura says:

        Sienna – Oh, being ‘lighter’ as in ‘very fair’ isn’t what’s currently popular here in the US right now, either. (In fact, the tanning craze got really popular in the early 90′s & has remained since then). I just mean ‘lighter’ in terms of appearing more caucasian than anything else. I’m so far up on the ‘super fair/pale skin’ scale, I’ve always had a horrible time finding makeup light enough…Ended up having to have it custom mixed to get it right…

        Asli – I don’t think anything you said sounded harsh. It’s terrible that you didn’t realize such abuse wasn’t ‘normal’… It sounds like your home life wasn’t the most supportive environment (from what you said), so it probably contributed to low self esteem to begin with. You tolerated an insane amount, but you were just trying to do what you had to do, keeping up with school. A lot of people never come forward to share, & like you alluded to, end up self destructing.

        Like someone else mentioned, hearing about your experiences really touched me, too. This may sound sappy, but thank you for sharing that with us. Maybe it will inspire others going through similar issues. More people should consider therapy… Too many seem to feel like there’s still some ‘stigma’ where you have to be a victim of some sort of abuse to get something out of it.

      • Asli says:

        Hakura – Yeah, my dad left when I was 4 (haven’t seen him since) and I pretty much haven’t talked to my mom for a year (since I moved out). My mom is a very… traditional African women and when she found out I had talked to a therapist about my problems she basically kicked me out. According to her you don’t go outside of the family with stuff like that – ruins the image. In short she wanted me to drop out of school and stay home to help cook and clean (she remarried) and take care of HER kids. I get that they’re my siblings and I love them but they’re not my responsibility. I want a life, a better life, and an education. She though otherwise.

        I don’t think you’re sappy AT ALL – it really touches my heart that you think that about me :D And I sooooo recommend therapy! It’s a good way for someone neutral to listen to you just talk. It’s not always about trauma, sometimes it’s just about venting and letting it all out so it doesn’t bear down on your heart.

      • aprayerforthewildatheart says:

        @Asli…Okay now you just made me smile :D You rock!

      • Asli says:

        LOL! You definately rock too!!! :D

      • Hakura says:

        Asli – That really did put you in a tough spot. A friend I’ve known since I can remember is from a very strict (all) Greek family, & they had similar feelings in regards to not discussing anything outside the family. They claim going to someone else ‘weakens the bond’ & causes them all ‘shame’. (I can’t stand how many cultures are more concerned about how they may ‘look’ to other people than they are about their child’s welfare.)

        Not wanting to take on that burden (that isn’t yours to begin with) is absolutely NO reflection on whether or not you love them. I just can’t understand how your mother could ask you to drop out of school, which is the base of so many life opportunities, to act as housemaid & babysitter. I mean no disrespect to cultural customs, but it’s totally unfair for her to ask you to put off/delay your own life, just to make hers (one she chose herself) easier.

        Re: Therapy – I went in knowing I had a lot of issues/past experiences… Things that I’ve always known were wrong or stressful, but didn’t discuss with anyone (which just allowed it to build up over years & years). I just still can’t believe it took me so long to realize my ‘Depression’ issues for what they were.

        Apologies for the 5 foot long messages. xD The page set-up is squishing & exaggerating what would be long to begin with.

      • Asli says:

        I get what you’re saying about the shame part. My mom had her sister (my aunt) drive all the from way Sweden to tell me that I was ”ruining” the family and that this was all my fault. Meanwhile my brothers are coming home God knows when with the police trailing behind, dropping out of school and basically being asshats and I’M the embarrasing one? I remember when my siblings were first born – I was around 12 – and I used to do EVERYTHING for them. Diapers, bottles, baths and I even made up a song that would make them stop crying :P My one brother thought I was his mom… So yeah, I don’t get it. And up until I left I would wake up a 5 am and get everybody ready for school – lunch, hair, clothes etc. ALONE! And then I had to drag my own ass to school. And my English teacher would tell my that it wasn’t my burden to bear and that it wasn’t me who had decided to pop out an army of kids (7) but it felt like… I don’t know… Like I was supposed to do all that.

        I remember my first meeting with my therapist where I really didn’t want to talk to her. But she really made me realize a whole lot. She even helped me find an apartment :) Love that wonderful women :D And it’s great that you realized you weren’t all well because it is a very harmful thing to let it build. If it’s bottled up it’ll be worse when it’s finally released.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        17? Omigosh, you’re just a baby! I was hoping you would say that you were well into your adulthood, that this was all a distant memory and I could foster the hope that others weren’t suffering the way that you had too–that just makes me sadder about the whole thing shirking their duties towards you in keeping you safe, teaching those s**theads that they are entirely out of order and reminding you that are a valuable member of the human race who is so much better than what your circumstances granted you. They don’t deserve the sacred trust that is the education and rearing of our young people, and I’m truly disgusted by these adults who completely failed you are failing the rest of them by letting them think that kind of garbage is acceptable.

        You’re clearly a very strong and self-possessed young woman and I’m seriously in awe of the fact that you’ve been able to blossom when you were thrown into that crucible. I too, belong to the therapy circle, though part of it is due to mental illness, that was actually my salvation, as it justified the reason for my having to get therapy to my formidable Carribean mother–she still doesn’t know that I was getting it in secret, pre-diagnosis, but I was older than you when that was going on, so it was easier to keep to myself. I, too have a father who didn’t bother, but where my mum was a little softer than yours (I didn’t think I’d ever type that), my father was a whole other barrel of monkeys–it’s not necessary. Though I think it would have been hard to accept at first, I don’t think she she would have responded quite so harshly, not when I was so young. So, I guess for all the harshness of my upbringing, I’m lucky for that. At any rate, this wasn’t supposed to be about my strange youth, but I do find you to be a very admirable kid, and even though I’ve got some years on you… when I grow up, I hope I’m like you.

      • Asli says:

        Jo ”Mama” Besser – LOL! Thanks so much! I agree with you that the adults who let this happen should be ashamed of themselves. It really shouldn’t have happened and shouldn’t keep happening anywhere. I’m glad I’m not the only one going to therapy – people don’t like to talk about it, which is really a shame. It truly does help. I’m soooo happy that you’re getting the help you deserve :D As for the age-thing… I feel like I’m older than I am actually. Like I should be well into my 40′s or something :P

    • someone says:

      Kerry Washington is drop dead beautiful!

    • ChocGal says:

      Hallelujah!! There’s other much prettier Black women out there. I wish this obsession with her would just end!!! Can the Media give her black-out or something??? Oh wait, she’ll probably just buy a Tv station or magazine….
      *shoots head*

      • I Choose Me says:

        Thank you! I can name so many other beautiful black women in a snap.

        Gabrielle Union
        Naomie Harris
        N’Bushe Wright
        Angela Basset
        Sophie Okonedo
        Jill Scott
        Kim Fields

        and it’s really warmed my heart to see the love that Viola Davis has been getting on Celebitchy.

        Oh almost forgot my girl Aisha Tyler who used to host Talk Soup

    • Petunia says:

      But do we know that it’s based upon hatred of her own color? Beyonce doesn’t at all strike me as the insecure type of woman about her race or her looks. Maybe she’s doing this because appearing whiter sells more albums??? I’m not making any sort of a value judgment on that theory, just putting it out there. Maybe this has nothing to do with shame and everything to do with selling yourself in the most marketable way. Honestly, that was my first thought on her actions.

  12. Dee says:

    Beyoncé has been going whiter for years, even in candids. Back in the day, Farrah Franklin (Destiny’s forgotten child) had to look darker than Bey, the light face of the group. This is nothing new! Meh.

  13. Bad Gal Addiction says:

    LMFAO! ” to re-advertise her fourth album 4″

    That ship sailed a long time ago.

  14. NM9005 says:

    White people want tans too. That’s socially accepted but a black woman can’t look lighter? I don’t care what she does, her music and image is lame but I don’t understand the constant criticism on the “whitening of her skin”. Plus, it seems like the lightening is making her whiter. Anyhoodle, even if you don’t see her, she causes controversy. I wonder how it will be when B.I.C. pops up :) .

    Oh and when I get my picture taken in a photoboot, I’m at least three shades lighter, even my friends notice it.

    • someone says:

      you’re kind of missing the point. from what knowledge I’ve come to gain most white people want tans not because they’re ashamed of their ethnicity but because they believe by tanning they will look thinner and sunkissed. the problem with whitening skin comes from the idea that darker people are not beautiful and inferior and by whitening your skin you are less associated to the African/asian ethnicity and more Cacausian. the problem is there are many people who believe you are automatically a better individual if you are white. Correct me if I’m wrong though this was just my understanding

      • Blue says:

        You are completely right @ someone. Black people, South East Asian have this big issue with skin colour. The lighter you are the smarter, prettier and more desirable you are perceived. They’ve done so many studies and experiments with kids (black and white) and across the board when the kids were asked who was the prettier, smarter, nicer etc they always chose the white or closet to white but everything negative (who’s mean,ugly etc) they chose the darker skin. One little girl said she didn’t feel pretty unless she had her blonde wig on. Sadly the mothers weren’t helping at all, one mother admitted she only dated and got pregnant by a light skinned Hispanic guy so her daughter would have “good hair” and light skin. So sad.

      • NM9005 says:

        Really? Because I myself experienced people being envious of my African features (“oh I love your hair and you have such nice skin” etcetera…), not to mention white people trying to be “black” by talking in ebonics, trying to imititate stereotypical black behaviour and as someone else posted, people who have dreadlocks or other hair styles that originated from black people. It is also furthering themselves from their own ethnicity (for various reasons). And yes, there is also commentary on that but not nearly as much as black people trying to “whitefy” themselves because dear lord, black must stay black otherwise you don’t respect yourself. I think it’s disrespecting that you can’t express yourself in the way you want because other people might see that as a sign you don’t like your own culture. It’s not up to others to decide how you should behave according to your roots. It’s pushing people in a box. I don’t expect Italians to eat pasta all the time and yell “mamma mia” you know? There are no rules as to how a black person should talk, behave, dress just like there are no rules for other people either.

        I do understand what you’re saying though. It’s just another end of a spectrum in the end. I think there are people who don’t like their roots and some who just like to try different styles. I don’t know at which spectrum Beyoncé is though but the fact that she is a product of Hollywood, I can see how she could feel she needs to be whiter to be more succesful.

        Hope that makes sense because I find this a difficult topic!

        EDIT: Great, I haven’t made a single point about the “whitening” issue.

      • It is ME!! says:

        Remember, historically, even white people didn’t want tans! To be tan meant that you worked out of doors, and were not a member of the leisurely class. Basically the whiter you were, the richer you were.

        This changed in the early 20th century, when having a tan meant you had enough “leisure time” to spend all day in the sun (not working in the sun, but playing tennis, skiing, swimming, etc.). Again, it came down to wealth. (Factory work versus having free time away from any work.)

        This doesn’t even begin to TOUCH issues on skin color among black, Asian, and Hispanic populations. Heck, even very pale people get teased for being “too white, too freckled,” etc. So it’s like no one can win! You can’t be too dark, but at the same time you can’t be too white. Insanity.

        For the record, I think Alek Wek has absolutely STUNNING skin. It is perfection. Beyonce should take note.

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        @NM9005-Really thoughtful and inetresting points you make! Honestly, I think a lot of white people tan because they like the exotic look of dark skin. As a white chick, I feel a bit unqualified to comment on the impact that this has on the African American community, but I can see how it would be hurtful if it is interpreted as denying your heritage. But from my perspective, I DO think that people always want what they don’t have. They just can’t help themselves. For instance, I have brown eyes, always wanted blue or green eyes etc. Girls with naturally curly hair straighten it, brunettes dye their hair blonde…That doesn’t mean that I’m discounting the impact that altering skin color can have on society, I just mean that this sense of dissatisfaction with self is very prevalent among women in general, regardless of race/ethnicity..

      • Liz says:

        Yes, Someone, you’re wrong. It’s hard to know where to start.

        Something that I’ve noticed with white Americans, particularly those on the left, is they cannot conceive of a world, or a culture, where white Americans simply do not impinge.

        People turning to radical Islam? It must be because of America!

        Non-white people want lighter skin and/or straight hair? They must want to look like US!

        Grow up. Sometimes people have cultural dynamics that – wait for it – have nothing to do with white people!

        Coloured people (I’ll start talking about “people of colour” as soon as we start talking about “people of whiteness”) who want lighter skin are trying to impress *each* *other*. They don’t care what white people think.

        They’re not trying to look “Caucasian”. They’re trying to look “wealthy” and “refined”, as their culture defines it.

        It may not be pleasant to see the, say, Indian obsession with skin colour and the social status (high or low) that comes with it but, like it or not, it’s their own independent cultural dynamic. What white Westerners think is irrelevent to them.

        It’s the same with African American, or Hispanic American women. They want to impress each other. They want to have status in relation to each other.

        It might be shocking for white Americans to hear this, but you are not the centre of the world. There are entire groups of people, even within your country, who do not care what you think of them.

      • It is ME!! says:

        Liz: I really don’t see what being on the “left” or “right” for that matter has to do with this issue. Especially when there are plenty of people on both the left and right of the political spectrum expect people in other countries to adopt “American style” democracy, instead of the style of governance that best accommodates the needs of the local populace. In other words, their view of democracy might be slightly different than ours. The “right” is not as innocent as you imply, about any topic. The same can be said of the “left.”

      • NM9005 says:


        Yes, very good: “people want what they don’t have”. I’m biracial and I wanted to blue-eyed with blonde hair when I was little because I just thought it was pretty. Or I tied a bathrobe around my hair to have “straight hair” because I thought it was pretty, softer and easier than mine. Not because white was some better human form or some popstar set an example (I didn’t watch that kind of TV or read magazines, MTV and consorts was forbidden so I got it from friends). Please, I was eight :D . It’s personal preference.
        Who isn’t unsatisfied/confused at some point in their life about some of their features?

        There is historic relevance to this matter as “it is ME” pointed out (btw, I love Alek Wek too!!! Amazing) but indeed, I don’t think that historical facet applies to everyone. It’s very difficult to exactly pinpoint or single out one specific reason regarding skin colour. Very difficult.
        But it’s interesting to hear people’s opinions about it.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        You’re not wrong.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        Okay, this website seriously hates me, but I’ll attempt my lost comment again:

        1. Of course we play, experiment. We do what makes us comfortable or break out of that comfort zone as will and fashion dictate because you do get bored and you have a right to change your mind. There is a breaking point, though. And I think that when you’re constantly whitening your hair and skin, surgically-negating a lot of your non-’mainstream’ features, I have to take pause. I remember the one time she ‘went African’–this effectively meant they turned down the lights–and it was treated as such an anomaly, like ‘omigosh, Beyonce is going back to her roots!’ Why is that so attention-grabbing?

        2. People may not try to ‘pass’, but if value stratification exists within a community based on colour, I don’t see how that’s miles better. When we’re impressing each with our ‘colour’, it’s still alienation of one group by another and if that alienation comes from Jansen, Rodriguez, Patel or Washington it’s still damaging.

        3. I don’t think the personal experience we may have had can be used to negate the larger point being made. Perhaps it’s not a story that’s recognizable to us, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she author is making it up for attention. If this argument comes up so frequently, maybe there is something to it. Is it fair to say that the author is categorically wrong in order to suit our sympathies? If we ask the author to consider another viewpoint, it’s only fair to entertain that there’s validity in hers. It’s one we hear so often, so it can’t be for nothing, can it? Maybe there is something beyond ‘reverse tanning’ going on.

        4. Our appreciation for the different or ‘exotic’ comes frequently as a response to seeing something that treads away from mainstream experience or personification and feeling it to be a breath of fresh air. But still, as much as we may appreciate Alek Wek, she is still framed as being from the other end, entirely. Understandable, as the readership of say, Vogue, isn’t generally littered with Alek clones, but to see that one face–as much as we may appreciate it–amongst hoardes of her polar opposite still suggests (to me, at least) that she gets to be the ‘one’. And she is, isn’t she? Sometimes the odd face of difference just brings the worship of ‘sameness’ into relief, you know?

    • Liz says:

      @It is ME!!:

      It’s definitely something I’ve noticed more on the American left – notice I said that it’s something that “I’ve noticed”. (And yes, I’m looking at this as an outsider. Make of that what you will.)

      I dunno, any conversation about race I’ve had with white American leftists always seems to come back to white people, in a way that I haven’t seen with the white American centre or right.

      The white centrists and conservatives seem more comfortable with the idea that non whites don’t think of them. With the leftists (in my experience, as always) all the pathologies and cultures of coloured people seem to come back to white people.

      African American beauty standards – including hair straightening and skin whitening? They must be trying to copy and impress white people!

      Lower black educational achievement? White people make black people achieve less with their melevolent privilege!

      Low rates of marriage? White people! Slavery! White women marrying black men!

      For all the talk about renouncing “white privilege”, they always seem to put white people at the centre of everything.

      Obviously, I could have phrased it better, and other political leanings have their own pathologies. But I still maintain that it’s a valid point. Many of the comments here seem incredibly white centred.

      Eh, I’m just reacting to something that frustrates me. You have a great point as well.

      • thebutlerdidit says:

        Actually, you are more correct than you know. Many in the elite liberal class of white Americans have a paternistic approach toward minorities, and look upon them as it is their duty to “help” them, as if they were somehow inferior due to their race. I find it sickening and many studies have been done as to how this atitude has caused great destruction to the African American family.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        Fair point. I guess for some it unintentionally manages to get back to white liberal guilt more often than not.

      • miss silver says:

        I agree with Liz. My mother is Korean and my father was a dark South Asian Indian. When I took my mother to Korea she chased me around with a parasol so I wouldn’t get darker. Wherever we went people would tell my mother in Korean, your daughter would have been pretty if she wasn’t so dark. When I told my friends in CA this story they thought it was atrocious. But Koreans know what they like. Different strokes for different folks.

      • SG says:

        Re: right-wing Americans and minorities.

        I think I’ve had the opposite conversations that you’ve experienced. In my experience, I’ve noticed that right-wingers tend to look down on minorities as living in the ghettos, taking advantage of government welfare in order to be lazy. Good god, if left wingers are seen as paternalistic, then the right can only be defined as bigots.

        Centrists are usually the neutral ones.

    • Asli says:

      NM9005 – I get what you’re saying. When I was around eight my mom took me and my sister to buy Bratz dolls :/ My sister chose Sasha and I chose Chloe (which actually makes me flinch to this day. Not because she was ugly but because I wanted to look like all the other girls in class so badly that I almost hated myself) And it has to do with your surroundings and what is ‘normal’ to look like in your society and how tv and media portrays the norm and what’s ‘acceptable’.

    • LAK says:

      Speaking as one black african to another @NM9005, darker skinned tribes are always being dissed, not just for the tribal differences, but especially because of their darker hues. You must live in some kind of bubble if you’ve never heard this.

      Also if you watch bollywood films, the damsel, princess in distress is always played by the light skinned woman whilst the peasant is always played by the dark skinned girl.

      Skin lightening creams are a booming industry in Africa and asia.

      Closer to home, let’s not forget what Nicole kidman has clearly done to her skin to remove her freckles…one of the side effects of lightening your skin is damaged epidermis, meaning you must avoid the sun at all tiems after that. And we all know the legths she goes to to avoid the sun.

      • Leticia says:

        @LAK, there is also a pecking order some Latino communities based on skin color. By the way, google Sammie Sosa and you will not recognize him anymore.

      • NM9005 says:

        I don’t live in a bubble but I honestly didn’t know it was such a global problem. I’ve never been confronted about it nor thought about it so deeply so in one way I’m happy to be part of this discussion. What happens in the film industry really doesn’t matter. It’s a reflection of what the industry thinks people want to see so they can make money of it. The fact that it’s trickled down to Asia and African is no coincidence. I have my theory about it but it’s not researched well enough to share on a forum.

        Your first paragraph in new to me though.

    • laylajanelovesgossip says:

      This picture makes me sad…smh

    • LAK says:

      Of course what happens in film industry matters because it has a penicious influence on the rest of society. We might laugh and point at the wierdness, but so many things have come to be accepted as the norm because of film industry.

      BTW Bollywood has been going on for as long as Hollywood, so this stuff goes way back.

      As for the tribal thing, it is really sad but true. It’s very telling the African reaction to Alek Wek vs say Liya Kebede, and it has alot to do with skin tone.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        So true, so true.

      • NM9005 says:

        But what came first? Films made onto the projections of what society expects or society projected their opinion based on what they see on film/TV?

        Is Kedebe that actress who played Waris Dirie? She’s gorgeous!

        @Jo Mama Besser:

        I need to remember your points for future reference, it’s a way of thinking about serious topics that I’m not proficient in yet.

        I’m beginning the understand the issue more.

      • LAK says:

        @NM9005: At this point, with regards film industry, it’s like the chicken and the egg. The idea is there, but perhaps not so accessible until film folk take it up and popularise it.

        eg women in trousers before Katherine Hepburn and Marlene Dietrich

        Black [LBD]and skinny as a fashion idea [Breakfast at Tiffany's]

        AIDS before and after Philadelpia [any featured disease or social problem]

        Love marriages as the ideal rather than arranged marriages which was the norm


        Yes, Liya Kebede is now an actress, but i believe she was the first black model to hold a major international beauty contract [Estee Lauder]

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        I’m honoured that you think of my musings so highly. I only try to consider what the other side has said when outlining what I’ve experienced and actually had some of your specific points in mind when responding. I’m always happy when I see exchanges that remain intelligent and open-minded, it’s really refreshing.

    • TheOriginalVictoria says:

      Well you and I have very different views on being black and biracial but YES there is a problem when you are a person of color and you want to lighten your skin. It is crazy and not necessary unless you are trying to get rid of blemishes. Beyonce was already slighly above medium complexion so the whole thing is pointless, but the fact that her already light skin was not good enough for her father AND her is disturbing. White people getting tans cannot compare. The tans can fade and it is not misconstrued as them abandoning their whiteness.

      At the end of the day people of color in all their glorious shades have worked so hard to accept and promote their hues despite a world that still pretty much says lighter is better. And there are a lot of little girls who love her and idolize her. That she, who thinks off all of her concepts “from video treatments to photoshoots”-cause she is so original-wouldn’t think about “lighting” anr how it consistently makes her look, tells me that lighting isn’t the problem.

      I know you don’t live in America and you were not raised by blacks and you seem to think that a lot of us black Americans are carrying a big ass chip, but this is not just a black thing. My Indian, Cambodian, and non-black Latinas have all dealt with being dark and the stigma tbat is associated with it. And that is why becoming lighter is more taboo.

      • NM9005 says:

        I think you were replying to me.

        See my above comment for one. It’s a bit general but I guess when it’s specifically about the whitening: to be honest, why would anybody look up to a unrelatable celeb anyway to relate about ethnicity? Has society deplored so much that we can’t look at our strenghts without dragging a person in it who is far from a good example in general to represent us? It’s like when one person does something it sets back demographic X…No it doesn’t. It’s an impact on your life. People make a big deal out of it thus it becomes a even more bigger deal. Also, I think it is an American issue. Everything is taboo there, even cursing.

        I also have Colombian and Asian friends and they never make a big deal out of it. We don’t even think about the color of our skin because we never have problems with it. Not by others, not by society or media. I guess it’s more of a luxury than a problem and I can understand that somebody like Beyoncé is supposed to be a role model for some people but really, if you want Beyoncé to change, you have to change society, media and the corporates who get money out of this. It’s not just her.

        Oh well, this is a “battle” that can never be won anyway. As if people are going to call her out on it publically and she’s going to change her image all of a sudden. I understand the taboo but it’s not Beyoncé who made it into one. I feel like it’s a complaint against society crammed into one person and it’s good people want change but there are ways to change that without making Beyoncé the prime example. As if the faith of the whitefying lies in her hands. I remember a black model saying the industry doesn’t want a black model with black features but a white girl dipped in chocolate. I don’t have to explain how the industry sees black people :S. But really, the masses can do something about that..if they want.

        Ugh, I hope I make sense…

        Btw, my other comments on that thread were borderline racist and while I can’t take them back, I didn’t want to generalise a community I’m part of.

  15. dahlia noir says:

    One day I’ll tell my grand children ” When I was young, Beyonce was black you know.” and then they’ll look at me and tell me I’m senile.

  16. amanda says:

    It totally looks nothing like her. With just the picture I wouldn’t have known who it was!

  17. TheOriginalVictoria says:

    Thid is what Beyoncé thinks she is. I AM SERIOUSLY SICK of her and he creole posturing. She is not even fully creole and she must think that being of the culture means striving to be white. THAT is not the mentality at all. They would just rather stay to themselves for reasons that I can understand. More importantly, almost any creole would tell you they don’t care how talented a family member is, education is sighted as the highest priority. This cow can’t even have an intelligent conversation without a script or teleprompter.

    So, she hates being black, throws up devil signs and rocks occult couture whil professing her Christianity, tris to act like she cares about gays and feminism when all he videos and interviews say otherwise, and fakes being humble and pregnant. BADLY.

    And I am supposed to fall on my weave (if I had one) and thank my lucky stars that young girls have this amazing role model for “inspiration”. Bitch please.

  18. outofafrica says:

    Itz all about wanting 2 become an icon.. It didn’t hurt micheal did it? Lol.. I call her beetchyonce 4 a reason

  19. KLO says:

    She looks like RuPaul in those photos. That’s all.

  20. jen says:

    My friend was in Thailand last year & she said there were commercials for “Total White” skin bleach on constantly.

  21. sluggo says:

    Oh come on, don’t tell me she/her PR team is going to claim “bad lighting” AGAIN when the photos backfire? Seriously? As in “I posed for the photos but never even saw any proofs or copies before it ran, it’s not my fault, it’s THE LIGHTING.” Like she doesn’t have enough money, or pull in the industry, or any sort of influence whatsoever which would allow her to SEE the PIX before they’re printed. Yeah, right. Bad (Caucasian) lighting. And I suppose the Gaga-blonde wig is ALSO bad lighting, eh?

    And every time this BS happens she’s a shade lighter, and then lighter, and then lighter still … Vanilla much? (I can’t wait for her NEXT photo shoot when everyone says “Gee, she looks just like Edgar Winter.”)

    This is how we are supposed to love our bodies? by ‘Shopping them into completely different bodies entirely? Not her body. Not her face. Not her hair. Not her. (Not her voice … not her own ideas for videos … not her pregnancy … the list just goes on and on.)

    I am SO OVER this chick.

  22. D says:

    “I don’t understand why Beyonce is still so obsessed with putting herself out there like a blonde white woman. For why?”

    Because in America light-skinned black women with “white woman” hair are held up as the most attractive members of their race by both blacks & whites & are way more likely to achieve mass success? Because blonde hair is considered the pinnacle of female beauty & sexiness? Why do so many white actresses go blonde, whether it suits them or not?

    I don’t know – it seems pretty clear to me. Beyonce is clearly hugely ambitious & wants to be some kind of epic international icon. It may be an ugly observation, but it’s not a false one – the whiter she looks, the more mass appeal she has, both in the U.S. and in the rest of the world.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if she had “issues” dating back to childhood (black girls learn pretty quickly that lighter skin & “good” hair = beauty) and that she sincerely feels she looks more beautiful in pictures where her skin is lighter.

    But I’d also say that she probably has a clear understanding of racial realities and has decided to adapt to them in the interest of reaching the level of success she desires.

  23. chocolate cake says:

    Honestly I think this was a half-assed attempt at addressing a serious issue. If you going to open up the can of worms that the black and general non-white community have with always thinking the standard of beauty is white. You will be weary of over simplistic statements like “And I don’t understand why Beyonce is still so obsessed with putting herself out there like a blonde white woman. For why?”
    So black woman aren’t allowed to dye their hair without wanting to be white now, but white people are allowed to get dreadlocks? See how oversimplified that is? I completely agree that skin lighting is wrong, dangerous ad stupid. I just disagree with you putting people in boxes saying black women who relax/ perm (i think the latter is the America term I’m not sure) their hair are ashamed of themselves (when they could be the type to alternate between braids etc. Because hey they enjoy the beauty of all things their hair can do). Secondly if you going to address B being ashamed of being black why bring up her hair colour instead of her supposed nose job? To me it kind of feels like sometimes in our defence of darker sisters we (unintentionally) insult lighter skinned sisters by implying they’re not black enough. Because some black people believe it or not are lighter. It’s kind of like when we defend curvy women and unintentionally insult naturally skinny women who can’t get those curves.
    I’m just saying this because the most common and stupid question I get asked is if I’m mixed (not that there is anything wrong with being mixed) when I’m not I’m 100% Africa born breed etc, but like Mandela I’m a light skinned Black African.
    Ok I’m off my soap box now
    Btw L’Oreal is useless fucks in a terri pheto advert they actually boast that their product has melanin block

    • Liz says:

      I agree with you.

      Black women who straighten their hair (or even lighten their skin) are trying to impress each other, inasmuch as other peoples’ opinions matter.

      It’s not about looking white – I think they’re intelligent to realise that that’s impossible. It’s not about impressing white people – if it was they’d leave their hair in its natural state.

      It’s simply something that black women like to do. Same as sometimes I like my hair straight, and sometimes I like it curly or wavy. If anyone’s forcing it down black women’s throats, it’s other black women.

      BeyBey annoys me, but unless you’re militantly against all photoshopping, and all the tweaks that singers/models/actresses do to look “better” in photos, I’m not sure what the big deal is.

      She’s a grown woman. If she wants to look lighter in photographs, or a white woman wants to look more tanned, then – well, I don’t understand it, but I don’t get this ostentatious horror at it.

    • Tapioca says:

      There’s a difference between a black woman bleaching her hair, and a black woman bleaching her hair, painting herself white AND having facial surgery to gain more caucasian-type features as Beyonce has done. It also works both ways – remember the outcry over Robert Downey Jr “blacking up” for Tropic Thunder when the whole point of the exercise was as a satire on Hollywood, or when Quentin Tarantino dares to use racial epithets from black culture in his films?

      And white folks can’t have dreadlocks either – unless they want the “wigger” or the “crusty” label, with the assumption that they intend to spend their lives smoking pot in a field listening to reggae/indie music.

      Stereotyping is colourblind!

      • chocolate cake says:

        Believe me the last person i want to be defending is Beyonce’because i truly believe as tapioca pointed out that she is ashamed of being black.
        Ok stereotypes escape no- one but i think most people can agree that stereotypes are stupid which is what i was trying to say (though i know it came out haphazardly, I’m sorry I’m not the most articulate person). Basically I’m arguing that the writer’s statement was oversimplified and much like a stereotype as not all women who dye their hair blonde want to be white.
        And what i meant by the white people and dreadlocks comment was you don’t really (at least where i live) get the white or black community up in arms over a white person having dreadlocks or even braids. It was no big deal, that when David Beckham visited SA he came with cornrows. But black women wearing weaves or relaxing their hair are accused of betraying their heritage. And while the term crusty or anything similar to it might be used to describe a white person with dreads it has no racial connotation to it, it simply implies that the person is dirty. Wigger is more likely to be give to a person like Eminem, who as you’ve seen has ‘white hair’.
        I don’t agree with any of the above stereotypes btw.
        Basically I’m not a fan of anything that divides our (black) community because we’re already divided enough (well at least where i live we are) and the main thing dividing us is this notion that there is this one definition of what a ‘true black’ is. Ok seriously now I’m done I want to enjoy my holiday. I’m not reading replies.

    • Zelda says:

      redacted. Not articulate today.
      Need more coffee.

      In a nutshell–white people really can’t have dreadlocks, either.

    • It is ME!! says:

      Perhaps the wording should be reframed. Perhaps it is a difference between black women feeling like they will be “required” to alter their natural hair to be seen as successful (like in the business and professional worlds), and black women choosing to alter their natural hair for the fun of beauty and creativity. I don’t know, I am not black.

      Interested to hear what others think of “being required” versus “having fun with hair.”

      • LAK says:

        i am black african, and i agree with what Topiaca says and actually what NM9005 say. Hair is a fun thing. I only remember to think about my skin colour when in America because it is important to them and am constatntly reminded that i am, infact black! which is always a shocker because of course i keep forgetting!

        ….but seriously, i don’t understand the skin tone argument although i have heard many people talk about it. Back home and in asia it is primarily a status thing, which i understand. The arguments in the west always confuse me, and i don’t get it.

    • I Choose Me says:

      Very well said. I am enjoying the many interesting points that have been raised by others like Lak and TheOriginalVictoria as well. Food for thought.

  24. chocolate cake says:

    Honestly I think this was a half-assed attempt at addressing a serious issue. If you going to open up the can of worms that the black and general non-white community have with always thinking the standard of beauty is white. You will be weary of over simplistic statements like “And I don’t understand why Beyonce is still so obsessed with putting herself out there like a blonde white woman. For why?”
    So black woman aren’t allowed to dye their hair without wanting to be white now, but white people are allowed to get dreadlocks? See how oversimplified that is? I completely agree that skin lighting is wrong, dangerous ad stupid. I just disagree with you putting people in boxes saying black women who relax/ perm (i think the latter is the America term I’m not sure) their hair are ashamed of themselves (when they could be the type to alternate between braids etc. Because hey they enjoy the beauty of all things their hair can do). Secondly if you going to address B being ashamed of being black why bring up her hair colour instead of her supposed nose job? To me it kind of feels like sometimes in our defence of darker sisters we (unintentionally) insult lighter skinned sisters by implying they’re not black enough. Because some black people believe it or not are lighter. It’s kind of like when we defend curvy women and unintentionally insult naturally skinny women who can’t get those curves.
    I’m just saying this because the most common and stupid question I get asked is if I’m mixed (not that there is anything wrong with being mixed) when I’m not I’m 100% Africa born breed etc, but like Mandela I’m a light skinned Black African.
    Ok I’m off my soap box now
    Btw L’Oreal is useless idiots in a terri pheto advert they actually boast that their product has melanin block

  25. Courtney says:

    Ya’ll are dim wits Beyonce is mixed and a lot of women of mixed heritage look white in photos it’s not that big of a deal. There’s always been photoshop in hollywood get over it

    • It is ME!! says:

      Way to add absolutely nothing of worth to the conversation, Courtney.

      You couldn’t find anything to say about old time stars, like Josephine Baker, etc? I would love to read something about that.

    • anonymous says:

      To Courtney: Beyonce is mixed with what? Both of her parents are black. If you saw a picture of Beyonce when she was a child she is now 2 to 3 shades lighter, i know most black babies born vey light skinned and then darken up but Beyonce have gone in the reverse. Her dad is dark and her mother is light skinned and she fell some where in between again look at her pictures as a child they have them out there. I believe Beyonce bleached her skin to compete with Lady GaGa, Lady Gaga have taken over the music world like a storm and I think Beyonce thinks it should be her. But having said that the behavior of African Americans is a sad tale being able to put in fake hair has made it worse. Beyonce is only doing what is allowed and accepted in the black communities they themselves are prejudice and treat their own children and friends and family according to skin lightness. In Beyonce first singing group she was the lightest and was placed in the center, when when Jennifer hudson won the oscar, Beyonce and her mother was featured in Ebony and intervewed by Star Jones on CNN, Star jones said to Beyonce that she knows that Beyonce was holding back in her singing and was better than J. Hudson, pay close attention! The dark skinned one is inferior they cannot do better than a lighter skinned black, and get this, I have observed blacks in almost every setting goo and ga ga over light skinned babies or kids but ignore the darker skinned children. In my own experience this lady came to my door looking for her daughter who played with my child and she said to me don’t you know my child is half-white, I really did not notice because the child was dark. Black Americans if you don’t like yourself how do you expect someone to like you. African Americans who have posted know exacly the skin games they practice, Beyonce is not a good singer and if she wasn’t lighter skinned they wouldn’t be all over her like they are now, they treat her like that becaue they worship lighter skinned blacks and Beyonce give them what she knows appeals to them.

  26. only1shmoo says:

    At first glance, I thought I was looking at a picture of Lady Gaga. I find this to be really sad, actually. How can African-American celebrities say they take pride in their culture & ethnicity when this goes on?

    Maybe I’m misinterpreting this because I’m seeing things from the PoV of a white person, and if I’m incorrect about this then I apologize, but it appears that for however much pride African Americans say they feel for their heritage, some of their actions appear to suggest otherwise (eg. why do so many black women insist on relaxing their hair? They did this in the ’50s because racist laws gave them no choice if they wanted to “look professional” in order to get hired for a job. Now they do have a choice, and are using it to conceal their natural look).

    To all the black girls reading this: You don’t need a relaxer and you don’t need any bleaching cream to be beautiful, you’re pretty as you are.

  27. k says:

    When you’re get darker. It happens with African American women.

  28. Flim says:

    If I was a superstar, I would strive to make my public image as different from the real me as possible so I could pick up my kids at day care without sparking an international paparrazi-fest. The more skewed our perception of her us, the more personal freedom she’ll have.

  29. Nessa says:

    One of the most overrated celebrities ever.

  30. Ari says:

    You know I get the big deal but seriously…? “have not learned their lesson.” who the hell is anyone to tell someone else what they can and cannot look like? I mean seriously if she gave final approval on this ad and she prefers to look lighter than normal wtf cares?

    • D says:

      I think many people have the belief that famous ethnic minorities have some kind of responsibility to be role models to their co-ethnics (especially kids), and to publicly appear to embrace the physical features that are specific to their ethnic group rather than to try to conform to a white standard of beauty.

      Obviously, Beyonce doesn’t want to “fight the power”, and quite frankly, I don’t like the idea that non-white celebrities are somehow obligated to model the “correct” behavior for their communities.

    • anon33 says:

      ITA. It’s similar to how some people feel like gay/lesbian celebs should have some sort of requirement to “come out” and be a role model to young gays and lesbians.

  31. Flan says:

    It often is not about wanting to be like caucasian people, but just about who has the lightest skin color in their group.

    This has gone on in several cultures well before they ever saw white people.

    Find it rather dumb of Beyonce to want to participate in this, with all the history and sensitivity this has in the United States.

    She used to be a great role-model for girls in general and, I imagine, Afro-American ones in particular. Destiny’s Child was all about providing for yourself and not walking around half-naked (one of her songs was even about that).

    Now look at her, ugh.

  32. badrockandroll says:

    Yes, flash photography is a relatively new invention that photographers are only now coming to understand. Even though Beyonce, who does not have approval on her cover art, was surprised by the results, she is always an innovator and is hoping to take this new technology to new places.

    What’s the name of the font you are supposed to use when you are being sarcastic?

    • Franny says:

      I believe that is the backwards italics. currently working on inventing it, and making the internet comment boards get on board.

    • badrockandroll says:

      Thanks Franny – I’ll buy shares!

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      Thank-you. She is a grown woman who has been appearing in professional media since she was a teenager, I think she knows the score by now. I know she’s no Rhodes Scholar, but I think she has an idea of how to appear in photos and how certain effects are caused. She’s not a naive babe in the woods, and I’m going to assume that professionals know a little more about their work than do people taking an offhand photo in the street. As far as I can tell, people are reaching just as hard to explain away this photo trend as they accuse the side-eyers of stirring up something nefarious.

  33. Liz says:

    I think she looks like Lady Gaga.

  34. Sara says:

    Wow, forget the whiter skin, that isn’t even Beyonce!!! It looks like RiRi. Is she really so insecure in her own skin that she wants to look nothing like herself? Jay Z is all black power, can’t believe he would approve of this!

    • D says:

      LOL. A quick review of the dating practices of famous black men who were/are “all about black power” will reveal that a disproportionate number of them chose wives who were “light, bright, and almost white”, as they say. This irony has been a staple of comedy routines for decades.

      Being into black power doesn’t mean you are suddenly able to throw off the beauty ideals your culture has indoctrinated into you since childhood. If you look that Jay-Z’s videos, you can see what types of women he chooses to represent his “brand”.

  35. Franny says:

    is “fell pregnant” an actual term? like…beyonce fell on a penis (pillow) and accidently became impregnated (stuffed…ew…works both ways!).

  36. Susan says:

    Anybody here think she is going to sell her baby pictures?

  37. lucy2 says:

    What a shame. I’ve always thought she was such a pretty woman, but she’s not even recognizable in that photo.

  38. Victoria says:

    Self-hatred and ashamed of her race. She does hair commericals wearing wigs!

    The only time we see actual black hair is on celebrities children like Klum’s boys & Zahara.

    Didn’t Nicole Ritchie leave behind her former black roots snd become a WASP?

    • Rio says:

      To be fair, with Nicole Ritchie’s background, it wouldn’t be too hard.

      Gotta love the Lionel, but “Say You, Say Me” and “Hello” are about the WASP-iest songs ever recorded.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        Ha! He is one of my Slovakian friend’s favourite singers. Not exactly WASP, but…I still crack up at her discovering Culture Club (she grew up under the Iron Curtain) and raving about them to me–this new singer that she and her father discovered named Boy George. This was in 2001. I fell out of my chair. Yeah, cracking up now.

  39. Erinn says:

    Honey, I hope you’re kidding. She’s not getting her photo taken by her husband, or some person off the street. It’s been taken by professionals who KNOW how to work a camera, and then processed by people who know how to photoshop.

  40. Tierra says:

    I would not have know that was her if her name was across the pic.

    I dont understand why mags use these celebs for pics and then p-shop them to the point you dont recognize them. why not just use a lighter skinned model if thats the look they’re going for? I cant imagine Beyonce’s name has that much marketing power any more but then I dont listen to pop music to know who sells what.

  41. jacquie109 says:

    I really don’t think that is her.. If it is, her team did A TON of photo shop. The only facial feature that looks the same is her nose and I’m not even convinced of that one…..

  42. Oenix says:

    Poor Beyonce is simply being misunderstood. Since she values her privacy too much to explain herself, here is an “insider” scoop:

    She has recently learned of a latent skin problem – vitiligo – and is undergoing treatment. Those latest photos are post-treatment and will shock even more once the entire process is complete.

    She’s had difficulty with her nasal passage – breathing, snoring, etc – in like forever and has only recently undergone rhinoplasty to address it. Additional work might be needed later.

    She is getting tested for Diastasis Recti and may need a tummy tuck to correct that. The final diagnosis and subsequent treatment are pending the results of her career’s evaluation.

    Depending on the result of such evaluation, she might later need to have breast surgery (lift, augmentation or reduction) to correct her posture and address problems with back pain.

    And she’s wearing blond wigs, as oppose to darker one, because they help reflect the light in away that doesn’t affect her sight. This is to prevent need for laser surgery at a later date.

    See, some of you are so quick to judge a sistah without knowing the facts!

  43. Laura says:

    Looks like a cross between Rihanna and Gwen Stefani

  44. really says:

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, major snoozeville! She is the most pathetic! Just sad. Huge YAWN.

    And, I would never ever find this twit a self-esteem healthy role model or thought for any woman of any color/race. She screams unhealthy in so many hidden ways. She screams FAKE, INSECURE, and SAD.

  45. Petunia says:

    Maybe I’m way off base but since everyone in the known and unknown universe knows that Beyonce is black – and naturally darker in skin tone – does it really matter what artistic license she uses on her albums? She could be made up to be pink with green polka dots and you’d still know her identity underneath it all.

  46. jferron says:

    I seriously thought this was Christina Aguilera at first. And looking like a trashy pasty fake N baker (on a side note, how does Christina manage to look super pale and washed out and simultaneously look like she just came out of a spray booth? It takes talent. All the talent she has.) Seriously, what the H is Bey thinking?

  47. Imo says:

    This girl just can’t win, no matter what she does people have an issue with it. Before she had her child everyone said she needed to take a break, go have babies. She had one and hardly anyone believes it’s hers…now on topic, here’s a link to her doing a more “ethnic” shoot and guess what? There was issues with that as well.

  48. TheOriginalVictoria says:

    ONLY…I apologize as I was speaking to Courtney. I am on my mobile and I hate th mobile version of this site.

  49. Lissa says:

    At first glance the first pic looked like a tannish Kate Moss posing for a trashy Dolce & Gabbana ad.

  50. faye says:

    why is there no controversy over all the fake hair? Why are you so ashamed of your natural hair beyonce?

  51. Sunshine says:

    Can someone please, for the love of GOD, explain the Beyonce thing to me? What makes her so popular? When I look at her I see a screeching demon harpy from the lowest circle of Hell. I see nothing interesting, attractive, or talented about her. Her “music” makes my ears bleed and her “dancing” looks like the professional version of Elaine dancing on “Seinfeld”. A blind person could dress in more flattering outfits….what is her appeal? I am confused and a little scared because the only thing that makes sense is that the Illumiati is true because nobody this spectacularly unpleasant, talentless and grating could possibly achieve such stardom without some sort of demonic help. WTF??

  52. Mingy says:

    she always morphs into her competition..i cant believe her ass. ive seen her look like shakira, gaga (yes gaga wtf), and now rhianna…just wow..i can probably think of more if i tried but i wont..

  53. reflections says:

    Very interesting conversation. As a light-skinned non-white person, I’ll tell you from personal experience that I appear a different skin shade in almost every photo I take, as it is completely depends on the lighting, daytime vs nighttime, indoors vs outdoors, etc. Yet they all these photos appear to me to be pics of me, not some as attempts to appear whiter or darker. I can’t even see the skin tone variances as much as others who are viewing my photos.

    Now as a public person who relies as much on her beauty as her talent to support her brand, Beyonce is fully aware of the level of mainstream and international acceptance she has by appearing more light-skinned in her photos. So she may purposefully going for this look with her lighting & makeup decisions. Isn’t Halle Berry considered one of the most beautiful women on the planet? Halle’s may be the look she’s trying to emulate.

    OTOH, speaking from personal experience, when your skin tone appears different in every photo, your perception of your own skin tone in much more malleable and vague. And it is much harder to get the photo to be an exact match of your “true” skin tone. Why should she be held to the responsibility of making sure every photo is an exact match to her “true” skin tone? And who is to judge what is the range of skin tones that she can vary between before she crosses the line to looking like purposefully trying to lighten her appearance?

    Frankly, I’ve also seen the other side, where international celebrities have their photo images turned several shades Darker when they attempt to break into the USA market. Why? I assume it’s because Americans define ethnicity on very stereotypical lines. The first question so many of us non-obvious skin tone people get is “What Are You?”. They don’t “get” it when someone from an unfamiliar culture appears too white. So someone like Aishwarya Rai use her lighter-skinned images in the Indian marketplace but uses her darker-skinned photos to market herself in the USA, to appear “more Indian” here.

    I think the world is improving in accepting a variety of skin tones in its clan of celebrities, particularly in the USA. Lauryn Hill is fairly dark and sported either dreads or afros and has more stereotypically black facial features. And yet achieved massive pop-icon success a decade ago, for both talent and beauty. Hopefully this trend continues.

    • 88Modesty88 says:

      Don’t you just want to laugh when you have to describe yourself like that? A light-skinned non-white person.
      I’m a dark-skinned white person, and most probably darker than you!
      That we still live in a world where it matters at all makes me sad.

      Not dissing your post, it was just a good spot to reply.

  54. TheOriginalVictoria says:

    @NM I understand where you are comimg from about being the oddity that peope want to fawn over. When I went to a perdominantly white high school, I was all the rage for the most part but I think it had to do with me being neither fully assimilated to Euro American culture nor “Shout out to homies only.” Like with everything in life, and my Meyer-Briggs results displayed this, I am almost compltely in the middle of things! They thought it was cool that I liked Nirvana and Tupac lol but were a little disappointed that I wasn’t “blacker.”

    My issue is not about placing white guilt or deeply generalising the matter on anyone but specifically about what I have seen and the sad fact is that our society has come to the point where Beyonce is the standard for many girls as a role model. Peolple who I really feel are just ignorant see her as the indepndent businesswomam/beautiful entertainer who can do it all because that is what she projects. She knows she is selling the public a bag Beverly Johnson yaki but plenty of people believe it’s Premium Remy. And it’s her own people that eat it up the most; the ones who allow her and her drug dealer hubby to “ball so hard” and “bag all that money” and she treats her fans like shit in return. She offers them recycled interviews, swaggerjacked music and performances and fucked up views on relationships, money, sex and even the colour issue.

    And perhaps that is what the crux of my issue with her is in that while I know she can single handedly change the world opinion on colourism about as much as Halle Berry can change the one drop rule that very much still exists, she acts as if SHE CAN. She tries so hard to come across as if she cares about black causes, feminism, gays, when it suits her and yet she contradicts herself daily.

    Honestl,y because she and Camel will still try to maintain their street cred and use their “blackness” when it suits them. They are getting their bread and “creativity” from their own. Their music and flava are straight up hood but at the same time she is trying to play down her blackness in physical appearance and seem more inately more Euro-centric than she really is. The blonde hair would not bother some if they felt it was just about her liking that color because Mary J. and Keyshia Cole are blondes an no one cares. But we know Bey Bey is all smoke and mirrors and nothing is done for the hell of it. She tries so hard to be internationally iconic because she also knows the industry puppet she’s got to make herself less ethnic when it is called for. And to me, for all the bashing of Halle who has always maintained a clear idea of who and what she is, I support her way more than a sometimey Beyoncé who usea her people to get hers and then leaves them behind so she can plah her Creole Princess role with Gwynnie an Chris.

    And that goes for Madonna and Gwyneth who talks all that shit about America and keeping their kids from television when they peddle their shit to the youth of others in this very country. I would never buy any of their stuff either no matter how much I might like it. HYPOCRITES.

    Sorry for the long rant.

  55. Riana says:

    I think the main issue about skin lightening is WHY is it being done.

    If its just to even your skin tone, get rid of a stubborn perma-tan or because your tone is muddied by sun damage I can understand that.

    If you are actively lightening to the point you wish to go several tones lighter, are doing everything in your power to claim European physical features as your own (nose, hair) and are seemingly uncomfortable with facets of your race or HORROR appearing darker then yeah…you’re likely self-hating, influenced by society or struggling with identity.

    Honestly I think the depictions of black women by black men in the media are kind of disgusting. You should either be Beyonce-ing yourself (lightening, getting that good straight hair) or amplifying yourself like some caricature of Africanism (big round booty, injections or implants, boobs big as a mountain). Its two just…insane sides of a spectrum with no balance.

  56. DI says:

    computer generated photoshop is alot easier than wearing a prosthetic baby bump……….i wonder if the baby is white!

  57. Hakura says:

    I can see this situation from both sides… Where lightening her skin comes across as being unhappy with her ethnicity/culture, thus sending a bad message to the untold masses who want to be just like her…as well as the side that points out that it’s as much her decision as it is for anyone else to get a tan/color contacts.

    I’m certain, as with all black/darker skinned people in the entertainment industry, there has always been immense pressure from executives/photographers/managers to alter photos to be lighter. Pressured about those things enough, & becoming self conscious wouldn’t be surprising.

    Still hate how arrogant & stuck up she appears to be, a narcissist… But with parents like her’s, I guess she was certainly raised to be one.

  58. Cali says:

    Okay, I’m a black woman and my previous posts will show you that I am no Bey fan, however, the skin color thing has really thrown me off. Bey is actually pretty light and you can see this from basically looking at her childhood pictures until now and yes she has been darker at times, but it seems that people don’t understand that black skin does tan. I get darker and lighter all of the time and sometimes it’s so noticeable that friends will comment on my different look and I’m like oh yeah I haven’t been tanning, but if I were a celeb I would be bleaching of course. I know this is shocking, but again, black people change color! The crazy thing about this, is that black people seem to be the ones who will quickly accuse someone of bleaching and start making MJ accusations. I think most whites already know that black skin can tan *sigh*

    Also, when you add more lighting of course the person will look even lighter. You can see in these photos that more lighting is used at the top which is why her bottom half is darker. The only issue i see with these photos is that she looks like RuPaul as already stated lol.

  59. kimberly says:

    anyone else see beyonce as one of the neediest bitches EVER!!

    it’s makes her whole persona ridiculous!

  60. tiki says:

    Most bi racial skin tones change color and have many different tones through out the year. GAWD,why is does this incite such boo hooing rabble rable?She look good black as coal or white as go girl!

  61. kimberly says:

    who the hell styled the shoot!?!

    everything looks straight up from Goodwill!!!! I’m sorry but while animal prints are cool at the moment, Tacky ones aren’t!! The pleather outfit ? oh hell no.

    lipstick was a bit too 2007 red phase for my taste, but i’m sure the person who okayed the shoot thought they were being, hip, crazy and cool.

    when they were being been there done that and did it WAY BETTER THAN YOU.

    Beyonce would make an ugly white person, so why are they trying to make her white in photos? It’s because they want more people to buy her shit?

  62. psu says:

    she is pathetic a big fat liar, shameless

  63. Vicki says:

    Indians are not Asian. Why do people make that assumption that Indians are Asian? So irritating.

    • Scarlet Vixen says:

      Um…maybe because India is IN Asia? Last I checked India was not it’s own continent.

    • miss silver says:

      Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are known as South Asia.

    • Inari says:

      Oh… I’ll try to be nice and civilised here, as you seem to be new on this planet (btw, welcome).

      India is located in Asia – just take a look at some of the maps floating around online.

      Next step is to recognise that people from Asia are often called… Asians. Are you still with me?

      If India is a country in Asia, and people from Asian countries are called Asians, what can Indians be called? (No, the answer is not Australians.)

      Also, in Britain, Asian most typically refers to people from South Asia. Want to guess what is the largest country in that region?

      And finally… Yes, some people from Russia are Asian. Others are not, what with the European part of the country and all. However, it’s rare to see Russians grouped by continents, considering that the country itself is so ridiculously large.

      You certainly don’t seem like our new alien overlord, but keep trying anyway.

    • Mari says:

      The difference in “races” or ethnic groups
      has nothing to do with skin color, and more with the features and bone structure in general.
      How the cranium, the teeth and nasal cavity are present give away the “race”.
      When reconstructing a face using only a cranium, the harder thing is guessing the skin color.

  64. J.Says says:

    It really makes me angry when societal or media commentators want to hold the celebrity in question accountable for the actions of companies. Beyonce` herself has NOTHING to do with the photoshopping and/or the video editing of a commerical or ad. If we want to being attention to racial bias in media and stop it, we need to call these companies out for their prejudice.

  65. Meanchick says:

    And WHO is that supposed to be?

  66. Meanchick says:

    She doesn’t even refer to herself as black, she says ‘creole.’ Dumb A$$.

  67. Tazina says:

    Who cares? The photos are fun to look at. Some people have too much time on their hands. Lighten up! (no pun intended).

  68. Jover says:

    Good conversation one and all; I won’t comment on the racial complexities, but sunshine, dear, it’s called massive, full throttle marketing 28 hours a day; otherwise bouncy is a blip, before the days of music vids, bouncy wouldn’t be noticed against the great rock/sou/motown/even country singers from those bygone days – it’s all marketing. She’s pathetic, dumb (has she ever read a book in her life), narcissistic, and her music and contribution to music is nil, I’d rather pay to see sanitation workers knock over garbage cans than listen to her crap, i’m sure payoffs of some sort are going to media outlets and mags to keep her relevant, she’s a prime example of talent means little while herd mentality and marketing mean everything. The only good thing is 30-40 years from now she be utterly forgotten.

  69. char says:

    1. women of the world alter skin tone for beauty. a golden color is favorable more or less. BUT

    2.why are “minorities” critisized for the exact same behavior that European-Americans are praised for? (tanning)

    3. Are they ashamed of thier European roots? Of course not. same goes for others.

    • Sisi says:

      I don’t disagree with you completely, but I would like to say that on this site celebs have been criticized for ridiculous tanning or have been commended for going natural (be it being naturally pale, use less make-up or keeping their hands off the spraytan).

  70. thethinker says:

    Let’s see why people are getting their knickers in a twist.

    1) Beyonce looks lighter in the photo.

    -That’s easy. It’s called lighting. I can look anything from ebony to quite pale depending on the lighting. Sometimes, I think I look hideous in pictures where I appear lighter and delete them. Sometimes, I like them. Not because I’m a self-hating black woman, but because I don’t look bad in them. Beyonce may like something about the way she looks in these pictures too. Maybe bad judgement on her part since the consensus seems to be that they sucked.

    Is she whitening her skin? I think not. Have you seen people in the early stages of the process with gross uneven pigmentation, and darker elbows and knees? No? Then, shhh.

    2. Her hair is blonde in this picture.
    -Emma Stone isn’t really a redhead. Christina Hendricks gets it from the bottle too. Hell, the girl who played the little orphan Annie in the non-Disney version wore a wig!
    Katy Perry has been all colours of the rainbow.
    Mary J Blige has been blonde on and off for ages. Keri Hilson has tried it. So has Rihanna. So has Beyonce, ages ago without the outrage.

    Why isn’t anyone accusing these other women of hating the way they look?

    And what’s so wrong about wanting to try different looks anyway? It’s not the same as trying to look irreversibly different a la Michael Jackson.

    Let she/he who has never touched hair-dye, or reversibly altered themselves in any way (eg. coloured contacts, booster bras et c) cast the first stone.

    Beyonce’s had better pictures, but I’m not going to go searching for stuff that isn’t there.

  71. dj says:

    Good discussion on diversity/multicultural issues! We can go deep when we want. However, Beyonce is a control freak and nothing goes out without her approval. That is all.

  72. Kim says:

    She lightened her skin to caucasian??? What the heck?! Who cares if its lighting it was purposely done to make her look whiter. What a shame she isnt confident in her skin.

  73. Ha! says:

    There’s always been a hollyweird stereotype going on: if you’re not anorexic looking, blonde, blue/green or hazel eyes then you’re close to nothing. Yet theycriticize Hitler for being a racist arian bitch.Talk about double standard. I guess hollywood hates Hitler because he thought of it first.

  74. CarolsKey says:

    It’s HER skin, HER body, and it should be HER choice. If Beyonce likes lighter more power to her, because it seems actually being white is “out of vogue” right now in America.

  75. Kim says:

    My good friend is light skinned and she DOES not look a different skin color in pictures.

    This lighting was PURPOSELY done to make her appear whiter. AND shes a mother now – put some clothes on for goodness sakes. Sasha needs to retire.

  76. ccoop says:

    I love how the Brits say “fell pregnant”. Like Beyonce just FELL PREGNANT, right onto a pillow!

  77. ZenB!tch says:

    From the middle class part hispanic perspective. Hispanics also have the skin color issue. I’m half Southern European/half Mexican. Dad is PALE, mom is brownskinned, I’m light olive (I look like the fat Jennifer Tilly). Parents are foreign, I’m American.

    When I started tanning my mom had a cow because I was ruining my “beautiful white skin”.

    I may have light skin but I am cursed with the bane of Southern European Mediterranean women everywhere – curly hair (some Celtic women like Nicole Kidman also suffer from this ailment – my Irish American friend calls it her birth defect). I’ve never wanted to be blond. I always liked Liz and Ava more than Marilyn in the classic movies but I would commit multiple homicide for even loose waves. I HATE my hair.

    PS: My blond, non curly haired Northern European friends friends want to be tan. So no one is happy.

    If you think about it the ideal woman in the US has Scandinavian hair, Mediterranean skin, some kind of European nose, light Eurasian eyes, African lips and a Hispanic figure.

    • Mari says:

      FYI, not everyone longs for wither skin in LA countries. In the media, yes many are portrayed as “pretty” and white, but living the real life, you do not hear complain, they are just known as gueras or morenos, whatever, if they are in eithrr extremes in school, yes , they may get some snarky comments as being either too dark, or too pale, as a ghost, but it would be thw same with the extremes, I got a bit called upon for being too young and too short sighted in my classes. Different is what starts the jokes.

    • Sunshine says:

      OMG DO NOT COMPLAIN about your hair! I would kill for thick, curly hair..I have the thinnest, most baby fine hair on the planet and I have to keep it pretty short because if I don’t, it looks stringy and nasty. It refuses to hold a curl, will not hold any shape except if you sleep on it funny and get a stupid kink in it, THAT will never come out. It cannot hold good smells like perfume or hair products but it holds on to the foulest smells with a vengeance (if I catch even a whiff of a fireplace my hair will REEK of it). I couldn’t get extensions if I wanted to because the tracks would show and there isn’t enough to cover them anyways….and there is NOTHING that can be done. If you have thick hair, you can get it thinned, you can straighten curly hair but for hair like mine, there is NOTHING to be done for it. So be glad you have thick hair…it could be worse :(

  78. amada basura says:

    funny that you never hear anything about self hatred or lack of confidence when white women spray themselves with chemicals or risk skin cancer by tanning to darken our skin.

    • aprayerforthewildatheart says:

      You make a really good point. I was all ready to be pissy about this, but she’s always tried different looks, and it’s her right to do so. No parent should be allowing their children to think of celebrities as role models. Better to just explain about Photoshop and that some celebs mess with their look more than others.

  79. BELLA says:

    wait til little “Blue-jay-z ” looks just like him!!! lollolololololololo

  80. Jayna says:

    Is it just me? The face looks like Rhianna and doesn’t even look like Beyonce.

  81. bigorexia says:

    So what? She wants lighter skin. It’s no different than a white person going to lie in the sun or to a tanning salon to get a tan. Nobody calls them out for disrespecting white people. People need to realise that she is a HUMAN BEING and everybody wants to look good. She is just pursuing her own idea of looking good. I mean, really! And lets face it – she looks better with lighter skin and straight, blonde hair.

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      What I don’t understand is why so many are dead set on even entertaining the notion that there may be something else going on, here. Why is so hard to accept that they might have a point? As far as tanning goes, that’s only a recent phenomenon that has been associated with a displaying of one’s (real or assumed) wealth, the histories between skin darkening and skin lightening aren’t the same.

  82. skipper says:

    Looks like keri hilson, another conceited bitch. What is the fun in not even looking like yourself in a picture. Might as well get a stand in. I should of done that for my wedding day. It would have been easier.

  83. Maria says:

    She looks lighter than in candid photos because studio lights have a tendency to wash you out and make you look lighter while candid photos are in darker light. EVERYONE looks darker in candid photos unless they get spray tanned for the studio. Beyonce is light skinned.
    I dont get the super blonde hair either tho but wtf, do you see white people freaking out because snookie is overly tanned and has black hair? No so let her be who she wants to be

  84. judyjudy says:

    Enh, who cares. An a-hole is an a-hole, no matter what the lighting.

  85. Flan says:

    Whatever else I might have commented, the reason I really hate her is because she wears fur.

  86. bagladey says:

    So Sasha Fierce isn’t so fierce after all if she’s still so insecure in her own skin (colour). Has anyone had the courage to tell the diva that she doesn’t make a beautiful white woman?

  87. karen says:

    So many well thought out points. I really enjoyed what people had to say. Of course I’m biracial having white, black and native American ethnicity. It is difficult a lot of the time trying to figure out where I’m suppose to fit in. Blacks called me oreo and said I didn’t talk black. Whites complimented me on how well I could “articulate”, as if that was a compliment. All I ever wondered was is it really that surprising that a black person would understand the significance of decent grammar? Or my other thought was is it because I don’t feel it appropriate to speak ebonics or any form of broken English, that this makes me less of a part of one of my mutiple ethnicity. I couldn’t win. I will say this for readers who may be white. It is not a compliment to a black person when you say ” you articulate well for a black person”. I don’t hear white people saying this to one another; so why would you ever assume that blacks should be flattered by such a comment. For me, your simply continuing to stereotype blacks even if such was not the intent. Life is hard enough when you are constantly trying to break away from the stereotypes of one race. Being biracial, makes it a whole new ball game. I don’t know Beyonce’s motives. But based solely on what I go through on a daily basis, I’m willing to cut the woman some slack. She is still beautiful to me. Halle, Zoen Tarija P, Raven Symone, Nicole Ritchie, all beautiful women as well. I’m sure they try hard to remain correct in everyone’s eyes.

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      I’m not biracial, but I am from Canada and get all of the same crap from all of the same people (non-Canadian blacks, white people are frequently shocked at how articulate I am, or how pity me in the winter since they don’t tend to anything in line with my truth, which is that my ‘home’ is actually colder than the place where I now live).

  88. Forever says:

    Pls refer to her dangerously in love album cover, I see a black woman, this cover I see Michael Jackson