The third season of Couples Therapy on VH1 premiered last week, with the star couple being Courtney Stodden, 18, and Doug Hutchison, 52. It also features Nik Richie of The Dirty and his wife Shayne Lamas, Alex McCord and Simon van Kempen of RHONY, and singer Joel ‘JoJo’ and Tashaunda Hailey. I just watched a few clips over on VH1 that made me uncomfortable. I hate seeing people argue so I doubt I’ll catch much more of it. The title refers to a scene in this linked clip in which JoJo calls out Doug for marrying such a young girl (at about 1:30), asking him “do you have any kids?.” Doug answers, all calm and serial-killer like, that “this is my child. I’m raising my wife.” Then Doug and Nik Richie get into it when Nik calls Courtney “the trash all over the Internet.” He would know. Later Nik calls Doug a child molester and Doug asks for an apology, but Nik won’t give it to him. I really detest Doug, he’s such a snake.
Maybe Doug was trying to use some kind of lame reverse psychology by admitting he’s raising his wife, but it came across as gross and disgusting. That’s my main reaction when I see this couple. Another person who had an issue with Doug and Courtney was Billy Bush of Access Hollywood, who interviewed them as part of Couples Therapy promotion. He really called them out, probably because he has a 14 year-old daughter, and basically called Doug a pedophile. Then Courtney admitted that her mom gave them the green light to get married, which we’ve heard before but it still shocks me. Courtney’s mom monitored her Internet conversations with a 51 year old man for six freaking months, and never once tried to shut it down. So her mom enabled the whole courtship. Here’s some of what they said and you can watch the video on this link.
Counselor Dr. Jenn Berman: This is not a fake relationship. After spending three weeks with them, I think the biggest myth is that this is a publicity stunt, and it is not.
A lot of times as a therapist I have to do work with people who have different morals, different values, different religions, all that sort of stuff. This is a couple who is legally married, it is a legitimate marriage and they came to me with conflicts in their marriage that needed to be worked on.
Billy Bush: Doug, Why get permission from her parents to marry, why not just wait two years until she’s 18?
Doug: A couple of reasons, life is unpredictable and we need to live every day to the fullest. Courtney and I fell in love and we’re soulmates and we needed to dive. She’s 18 now. What would be the point to have waited until she’s 18?Billy Bush: The psychological development, the emotional development in people ages 51 and 16 is giantly different.
Doug: Our inspiration is people like Jon and Bo Derek. She was 15 and he was in his 40s. They had a 22 year marriage. She held his hand while he was on his death bed. Celine Dion and Rene Angelil, he met her when she was 12, was her manager.
Billy Bush: It wasn’t a relationship at that point.
Doug: Well, it was the beginning of a relationship.Courtney: The connection was so organic. When you fall in love with somebody, Billy, you’re love and you feel that.
Billy: But you’re 16 and you’re swaying all over the place. Like I have a 14 year-old daughter who is hormonal and emotional and changes her feelings about friends every 10 seconds.
Courtney: I wasn’t… if you asked Bo Derek she would say the same thing. When you’re an old soul, you’re not going to fall in love with a 14 year-old boy. You meet somebody, you know what you want, and you’re going to get that… I was a Christian girl and I wanted to save myself until I got married. Some people say that I waited a whole 16 years… that meant so much to me… we’re still together. We’ve been married for a year and a half almost.
Hostess: what did you say to your parents?
My mother was monitoring all the conversations. [For six months] We were talking online.Billy Bush: People are going to call you a pedophile and a pervert for meeting a young girl online. And they’re not far off, you’re meeting a young girl start chatting… you’re an actor. You threw your career away.
[From Access Hollywood]
That was despicable what Doug said about Celine Dion and Renee Angelil, as if Renee was creeping on Celine when she was 12 years old. Courtney is just parroting him, and the whole thing bothers me. She’s all “we’ve been married a whole year and a half!” I liked it much better when we thought it was a publicity stunt, because the reality is just jaw-dropping. It also bothers me how much people are acting like this is normal in order to continue to capitalize on it. Good for Billy Bush and everyone else who is calling it like it is.
These photos are from December of last year. You can see Courtney’s new face here. Credit: WENN.com
They’ll say anything for attention. Wish these two would just go away.
^^^This.
jesus christ, she is not even legal to drink.
Pedobear approves.
What the hell is she doing with her mouth in the first photo? She looks like a cheap plastic blow up doll. And he is as creepy as they come. Is this really all Hollywierd has to offer anymore. Ugh!!!!!
I legitimately thought it was a screencap of a SNL skit parody, I thought it was Kevin James at first glance, and I was trying to figure out who was playing the girl! That’s how ridiculous the entire thing is.
I thought it was Kevin James, too! Only difference, I like Kevin James.
Here comes Booby Boob Boob.
Ahahaha. It’s 6 degrees outside. And raining. And my cubicle is super dark and depressing. This brightened me up.
Erinn, I don’t know where you are, but I wish I was there! I haven’t heard, felt, or seen rain since last winter. Just to visit though. 😉
I’m in South West Nova Scotia! I’m okay with the rain because I’m inside… we get a lot of it throughout the year. Our summers have a lot of fog.
He rents her out to traveling foreign business men because, yes, they do need the money.One night at the Chateau Marmont was their honeymoon. No week in Paris, no Hawaii. They live in a decrepit decaying apartment, for heaven’s sake.She was his retirement plan, but he can’t make her “happen”.Now his pride won’t let him admit he made a huuuge mistake.
I don’t know if you are just guessing, or have some insider knowledge, but this certainly sounds true!
I remember someone mentioned a commenter on CDAN who says her mom pimped her out as well. Not surprising if it is true. I wonder if that is why she looks high sometimes? Easier to service strange men when you’re doped up.
Forget “Couple’s Therapy”, I’d love to know the REAL story behind this Stodden girl. I mean, who is she? Who are her parents? Did she ever go to school? Does she have siblings? I don’t buy her relationship whatsoever, so the prostitution angle makes sense. God, I’m making myself sick just thinking about it.
She apparently left school because she was being bullied, and at the time she met hubby she was enrolled in a Christian online school. She has two siblings, both are pretty girls, and close in age. Her mom moved to Hollywood to be her “momager”. Her father initially supported Courtney’s marriage, but her parents recently split up and his face was blurred in one of the videos I watched.
THIS!
I’ve always thought that this was actually what was happening. I think Doug is her pimp/ husband and he is trying to profit off of her. It’s sick, but there really is a demand for young girls in the adult industry. All the weird videos and photo ops that have been released of her, how about the “Hello Courtney” video that he made of her? That was one of the most disturbing and exploiting things I have ever watched.
Whatever is going on between them, it is wrong on many levels, but there is something even deeper and more disturbing that has yet to even surface.
@hotpockets, I just watched “hello Courtney” on YouTube and I’m disgusted!
Sounds about right but I thought they had a pretty nice house? Not a mansion but still nice.
MorticiansDoItDeader, it’s gross, huh? I couldn’t watch the whole thing.
The other night during packing this was on. I watched it just to see them. The other couples are sitting around discussing their relationships and being friendly and off camera you hear…are you ready to make some drama and out she steps in her gold stripper suit and sits on his lap, prompting everyone’s revulsion. The men really were disgusted and it was Dourtney that brought all the strife.
They are both disgusting pieces of crap. He is a pedo and she had her teen age claws out and obviously used the money for a new face. Really obvious on the show. Old lips, teeth, nose and the hair! I respect the other guys for not hitting Doug because that dude was courting a fight from before it even started. No other couple was all sexual and all over each other. So disgusting.
OTiff – I read over the weekend that the show’s head honchos basically told the other couples that Dourtney was to be the focus of the show, and they’d better shut up & deal with it and not interfere.
So whether the relationship is a stunt or not, the show casting them DEFINITELY is!
“Some people say that I waited a whole 16 years… that meant so much to me… we’re still together. We’ve been married for a year and a half almost.”
Wow, she waited a whole 16 years??? Strong morals, that one.
And being married a YEAR AND A HALF??? Wow, let’s bust out the champagne and engraved Tiffany’s silver.
She envisions herself to be an “old soul” but in reality, she sounds exactly like a typical teenager.
He is vile and reprehensible. She’s a famewhore, no doubt, but I can’t help but feel bad for her. It’s not her fault she was born without a loving mother, it’s not her fault she was born without a brain.
Researcher… I just can’t with you. Your comment is wrong on so many levels I don’t even know where to begin.
I will say this though: The age of consent is different in different countries. In Australia, for sex, it is 16. For drinking it is 18. In USA, for drinking it is 21. In Europe, I believe, the age of consent for sex is 15. Just because a person has reached the age of consent, does not mean they are an adult. Im 25 now and I can tell you that at 16, I was most definitely NOT an adult. Nor at 18. I was not capable of making decisions that would affect the rest of my life (like getting married to a 51 y.o). You say that you were, but I doubt it. Having responsibilities does not make you an adult. I don’t know how old you are, but you seem really young.
And why are you comparing this girls’ life to BDSM? BDSM is an activity that you do, you don’t live your whole life in a BDSM game.
Courtney is a victim of sexual & emotional abuse. Plain & simple.
Edit: I posted the reply to the wrong person. Oops!
I agree with billy I don’t think there relationship is fake. They just have a different type of relationship. Of course there still famewhores, they have a different set of values and morals. I disliked them at first because I didn’t understand their relationship but now that I understand, I don’t love them but they do seem a little more human to me. It’s kinda of like, they have an age play relationship which is practiced a lot in the bdsm community. The fact is that ageplay has nothing at all to do with pedophilia. Ageplay is about role-play and about adults being consensual whereas pedophilia the victim has no choice. For many ageplayers, they lacked the attention and nurturing they craved as a child, and had emotionally absent parents, others feel they were forced to grow up too quickly. Ageplay is a way of recreating and reenacting childhood in a safe and controlled way. Others grew up in happy, supportive, loving families. For some it’s a stress reliever, and a comfort in times of stress.
I don’t know what kind of background this girl comes from, I wouldn’t say it was good, considering her mom didn’t stop the relationship when it first started, the fact that she let her child get a boob job , and the fact that she stands by her oversexualized child thats wearing next nothing while they make YouTube vids on how to “bake”… There are no words to describe this woman. Courtney might not have had the structure she needed growing up, that’s where Doug comes in. I noticed when I watched the premiere ep. , as the were walking up the steps Doug says, “Do you have to go potty?” Courtney excitedly replied, “I have to go pee pee”.
I will say this from personal experience, when I was 16 I was mature. I know that for a fact, I grew up faster than I had to because I had a lot of responsibilities. Even when I had down time my preferences were not to go out and party taste test drugs and alcohol or sleep around. Honestly I was above that, it was no different at 18 I was the exact same way. So I can understand Courtney TO A DEGREE. If I had the chance sure I would date an older guy, not 51 but in his 20’s because of the maturity factor when I was 16. I am in no way condoning their relationship, I just decided to do my research before I outright judged them, now that I did, I don’t think Doug is a pedophile and Courtney is just a stupid child. They just have a different relationship that people are not familiar with. If you research age play (not just google it ) but actually take the time to understand it , your opinions of them might change as well.
Side note- why are people acting like Hugh Hefner hasn’t been doing this for decades? As long as a girl is 18 and has all the B’s..bony, big breasted , blonde, blue eyes
He snatches them right up, jus sayin.
i’m sorry, but ageplay has nothing to do with it. ageplay is when two consenting ADULTS agree to act out scenarios involving different ages. she really was 16 when they met. she wasn’t 30 pretending to be 16. huge difference.
“they lacked the attention and nurturing they craved as a child, and had emotionally absent parents, others feel they were forced to grow up too quickly. Ageplay is a way of recreating and reenacting childhood in a safe and controlled way.”
So basically he is preying upon someone who is a victim of a defective childhood, someone who is badly damaged from sub-standard circumstances that she couldn’t control. So basically, he’s exploiting her badly fragmented mental state so he can have a hot piece of ass who is easy to control.
Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
Also, having trouble seeing the “safe environment” that he is providing for her. Is the “safe environment” on the reality TV show, or when he parades her around the paps, dressed up like a stripper?
“Ageplay is about role-play and about adults being consensual whereas pedophilia the victim has no choice.”
She was not an adult, she was SIXTEEN when they got together.
Listen, I pride myself on being non-judgmental and open-minded about un-traditional relationships but this is simply predatory and inherently wrong.
it seems no one can agree on if 16 is considered an adult age or not. It stems from personal experience. As you can see she is 18 now and ACTS AND DRESSES THE EXACT SAME AT 16. 18 yrs is an adult like everyone pointed out, the age of consent. As of now they are two consenting adults, who knows what ages they act out behind closed doors I don’t want to know.
I also pointed out even though they have a different relationship the were still famewhores but who knows, they could be famewhores that really are trying to fix there relationship. I guess we won’t know until the last episode and see if the came out different than they went in.
She was 17 during filming and 16 when they married. He started courting her at 15! The age of lawful consent is 18.
He is a pedo. Plain and simple. Don’t make age play excuses, this is as disgusting as it gets. Hef wouldn’t even touch or court a 15 to 16 year old. It is illegal and the mother should be ashamed.
Not only that, Doug is WAY too much like his hate able character from The Green Mile. I wanted Tom Hanks to throw him in that room just Iike the movie. Freaking pervert.
Firstly, I blame 99% of this square on the shoulders of her parents. NO good mother would allow her teenager to be married off to an old weirdo, regardless of how “mature” and “sexual” the child is, or how rich and famous the old guy is. Any mother would put her foot RIGHT down and say “over my dead body” and refuse to support that. And WHERE IS HER FATHER??? My Dad would have yanked me away from that situation so hard, my arm would have come off.
Secondly, Courtney is either the best actress of this generation, or she is a complete twit (my guess). Girlfriend doesn’t have two working brain cells to rub together. Allowing her to make a decision such as this is irresponsible and dangerous.
Thirdly, this is so obviously a huge money/fame grab… Courtney’s mom supported having her paraded around like a p0rno treat with those implants and stripper heels and tranny makeup and practically no clothing on. Doug is “playing the game” and Courtney is taking cues from the two of them on how to “shock and stun” the public, which = $$$.
This is a giant FAIL on all levels for parenting. It has NOTHING to do with BDSM and role-playing between consenting adults… 16 and 50 is not two consenting adults. Sorry, it just isn’t, regardless of what the law says an adult is. Idiotic bimbos should have 5 years tacked on to their age before they’re legal.
@ Canda:
“Tranny” is offensive language and should therefore not be used.
If nothing else, I imagine that there are thousands of pedophiles the world over who are jealous of Doug. I mean, he’s having sex with a child (with her mother’s permission), and the child dresses like a hooker.
As for Doug, sometimes the roles an actor plays give a glimpse into their true essence.
*throws up in mouth* sad that this girl’s mom knew about this and didn’t try to stop it!
That’s the other thing I want to know – WHY would her mother be supportive of literally pimping out her daughter? It blows my mind.
*hands paper bag*
Not only didn’t try to stop it, encouraged and enabled it. I bet mom’s been priming her since birth.
I don’t hold it against Courtney. With a ‘mother’ like that, she didn’t stand a chance.
“We’ve been married for a year and a half almost.”
Is that a long time? Because I’ve been married 2 and been with my husband for 10 years since HS and it doesn’t seem like a particularly long time (note: we are the same age, not like Super Creeper and Discount Barbie up there).
He wanted a puppet he can have sex with. I would say “puppy” but that’s just gross. It’s beyond blech. I couldn’t imagine being a parent and saying, “Yup, it’s ok. Just creep with this old dude and have all this plastic surgery. I need money for this Escalade.”
Teehee, Super Creeper and Discount Barbie! WIN.
You really think he has sex with her? I’m not all that sure he is into girls.
They don’t. he doesn’t swing that way, she’s a commodity. Mom brokered the deal.
Fritzi – You’re right, she is a commodity, but that makes me sad. No human being (however stupid or gross) should ever be considered a commodity.
The most depressing thing about this whole scenario is that the “deal” that was brokered by Mom Stodden is turning out to be pretty lucrative for all involved.
The message is: marry a teenage prostitute and we, as a society will reward you with the riches and fame that you so crave.
*sigh*
I think the videos of her reenforce the my feeling he is gay (particularly the “hello Courtney” video @hotpockets mentioned up thread). Creepy McCreeperson has no idea of what a straight man finds sexy.
He’s not raising a wife, he’s raising a prostitute look-a-like.
The correct phrase is prostitot.
Calling him a pedophile was spot on. That’s what he is. The only difference between him and a pedo rotting away in a cell is that he was aided my her mom in legalizing the sexual abuse. Disgusting.
+ 1
Cutting comment here, that I meant to place lower.
While I fully agree that their relationship is disgusting in the extreme, he is not a pedophile. Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescent children. Pedophiles are attracted to young children who have not yet developed the physical characteristics of an adult. I think we can all agree that Ms. Stodden was way beyond that point when they met. I mean, the girl looks like a 45 year old transvestite.
However, I think Doug summed up everything that is wrong about this situation with that one line. Your spouse should be your equal. You shouldn’t be raising your wife!
Totally agree. People need to stop throwing that word around. Courtney Stodden was FAR from prepubescent and pretty much looked like a 30 year old woman. Yeah, he’s a creep. But his attraction to her, physically, does not creep me out. When this story came out everyone was crying out that she was not 16 but at least mid twenties.
Ok fine, but I still maintain that this is statutory rape committed legally through a loophole that shouldn’t exist. As a society we have all pretty much agreed that 16 year olds are not capable of making adult decisions- we don’t even let them vote or buy cigarettes. So it is predatory for a 51 year old man to have sex with a 16 year old girl, regardless of what she looks like. Just because he got her mother to sign a legal document so he can’t be prosecuted doesn’t mean that what he’s doing is not wrong.
Because we don’t let 16 yo vote and buy cancer sticks doesn’t mean they are not capable of making adult decisions. In some states the age of consent is 16, yet that to doesn’t mean anything. We all have different backgrounds and some may have been forced to grow up faster than others for example, if a girl had a child at 16 as soon as the baby comes out her life is no longer her own. She matures as the baby grows, her maturity level might even surpass that of a college girl who parties her days away being 21 an all.
This does not include the idiots on teen mom
Are we talking about the same person here?
I agree that some 16-year-olds mature faster than others but do you HONESTLY think that Courtney Stodden is an example of this? Seriously?
What about this girl screams “I’m a mature, rational adult that makes mature, adult decisions that are in my own best interest”??
Or better yet-a husband who claims to be “raising” his wife. That’s a ringing endorsement of her maturity level if I’ve ever heard one. You know that you’re in trouble when even your pervy, predatory husband is calling you a child.
I think that’s when the age play comes in shes old enough to be in a relationship at 16 but wants Doug to make adult decisions for/with her? Is that why he says he’s raising his wife?
Researcher, you are projecting.
I agree the term pedophile is thrown around waaaay too much. She look older than I do. Don’t get me wrong, he is still a creep that’s obviously attracted to how immature and virginal she is (was in the case of virginity) but I don’t think he is a pedo. There’s got to be another word out there to describe his attraction to her.
Isa, depending on when he became attracted to her and began courting her, the appropriate term would be “hebephilia” or “ephebophilia.” The first is an attraction to pubescent minors (age 11-14), and the second is an attraction to post-pubescent minors (15-19). “Pedophilia” is attraction to pre-pubescent minor children. They are three different paraphilias.
telesma…”pedophilia,” “hebephilia” and “ephebophilia” are about primary or exclusive sexual attraction. For example, most researchers maintain that not every person who has sexually abused a prepubescent child is a pedophile. Furthermore, hebephilia and especially ephebophilia are not official paraphilias. For the latter, this is because not only are the girls biological adults, but they usually physically look like adults (mostly or completely). This is why plenty of normal men may find a 16 or 17-year-old girl sexually attractive. We already know that plenty of normal men find 18 to 19-year-old girls (who are legal adults in most countries) sexually attractive. And, realistically, there isn’t much of a mental or physical age difference between 16 to 18, certainly not between 17 to 18, if any difference at all in some cases. I know that if people of these ages were placed side by side, I wouldn’t be able to tell them apart age-wise by just looking at them. Besides that, most late teenagers look like early 20-somethings (and vice versa), which is why they can use fake IDs and get away with it. All of this is why people are not considered ephebophiles unless they have a sexual preference for that age group.
how is it possible to say- this is my child, im raising my wife- and then deny you are a pedophile? you just said she was a child, you’re sexually attracted to/took advantage of a child.
what a slimy creepy disgusting pig. i hope she leaves him, works on herself and gets some therapy, distances herself from her mom. i feel bad for her, that’s gotta be a painful realization when you see your mom set you up with a pedophile for fame.. if she ever realizes that.
Regardless of whether Rene was creeping on Celine when she was 12, it’s still creepy. He was her manager. He essentially helped raise her. It’s a creepy situation, albeit much less creepy than Doug and Courtney.
Celine has admitted many times she fell in love with Rene when she met him and perused him throughout her teen years. Supposedly he waited until she was old enough but I think alot of people believe that they were having underage sex.He took her out of her poor family of 14 kids and raised her basically. I can’t believe he never took advantage of it.
I can believe it. Humans are more than just sex, which even brainless slugs can do. We can be self-disciplined and control ourselves. Rene and Celine seem like a very stable duo and I really think it went down the way Celine recounted it (basically, them getting together as a couple when she was older but after years of already being in each other lives, talking, working on her career, etc).
Yeah that’s always creeped me out too.
I think the point is, don’t think you can make your relationship seem less creepy just by pointing out that other people have also had creepy relationships.
@ TQB
Yes EXACTLY! Comparing your relationship to Celine and Bo Derek’s does not make it right! All of them were creepy as hell!
That situation always seemed a little iffy to me, but at least legally speaking, Celine was an adult when they got engaged, and then waited a few more years for marriage.
To me there’s a big difference between that, and this guy married what seems to be a mentally deficient, hyper-sexual 16 year old.
Erinn, out of these two couples, I gotta state that I find the René/Celine romance to be far creepier.
At 16 there’s no way she realized what she was getting into. Her parents pimped her out to a pedophile who wanted a virgin. He’s disgusting and billy was right, Doug tanked his career. No wonder he did creepy on screen so well.
Why are they in couples therapy? i thought they were so happy and in love??????
They were trying to get any kind of reality gig they could, and nobody else wanted them. It’s pretty pathetic really, that no other trashy craptastic reality show would even want to be associated with them & their disgusting story. While there seems to be a lot of barrel scrapping going on in the world of Reality TV, this was pretty much the only gig they could get. Almost saying the producers of every other reality show wouldn’t lower their morals that far!! They make me sick, & I doubt I could bare to watch them without taking some kind of anti-nausea medication.
How he manages to be more creepy that Eugene Tooms is beyond me.
Nooooooo. I never realized he’s Tooms! Those episodes are forever marred now.
who watches this stuff? seriously. the audience is just as sad as the performers.
They just appear as horrifying as they do, because humanity got killed after a hypernova explosion and earth got hit by a gamma-ray burst. Cosmic punishment for a bad genepool.
Personally, I always thought that Jon and Bo Derek’s marriage was uber-creepy. Celine Dion’s is as well.
She’s too young to even know who Bo Derek is. She’s been fed these lines and is performing (not well, btw) as directed, like a good little pr0n-star. Actress! I meant actress! (No, I really didn’t.)
Oooh HELL no, wife husbandry!
I just don’t get it, did he really think he would be rolling in cash by doing this? I mean he was a working character actor in some high profile stuff (Lost for example). Sure he wasn’t wealthy but between guest spots and residuals I imagine he did OK. He destroyed his whole career, that’s a hell of a miscalculation. On the other hand, maybe the goal was just to have the mother hand over her underage daughter…*shudder*.
His goal wasn’t to be a great actor on quality shows, his goal was to be FAMOUS and acting was just one of many vehicles he saw to achieve this goal.
When he found out acting wasn’t the lock that he thought it would be he went to Plan B. Stodden is his famewhore cash cow.
It’s that simple.
*sought to achieve his goal. Ugh.
I feel like her mother sold her to the highest bidder. This is so gross. She’s a cheesy bitch that is either an idiot or a genius. I’m torn on this one. Idiot,because when she talks she sounds. her age. Or she’s a genius because she’s sell the idea of the blonde bimbo in stripper heals, because she knows the public cannot stop watching the freak show, and she’s getting the attention she needs. Now Doug is so disgusting. He’s wearing skull caps, leather pants, and the Guy looks like an ass. A classic, midlife crisis. He is such a tool. And Doug, when you get into a relationship, it’s two people coming together, bring equally to the table. Not grooming her and raising her, you sick freak!!!!
She an Idiot
It doesn’t take a genius to get media attention for no other reason than for being a trashy mess look a Lindsay Lohan.
Sadly this is what society has come too.
Yeah, I think the experts call that “grooming”. I can’t with these two.
“You gotta get ’em while they’re young and take ’em right from their mama, and you raise ’em up right by you to keep ’em true.” – Great Balls of Fire, 1989. Jerry Lee Lewis discussing the ideal wife.
SPOT ON!
For those who do not know, Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin, he was 22.
I thought of that line from Great Balls of Fire when I read this article.
They both make me wanna hurl. They’re just ewwwwww.
What. The. F. Seriously. These people are freakshows.
PEDO ALERT! Oh God!
Lol @ the second pic. Looks like Courtney is hitting his groin with her knee. XDD
Gross.
Her husband, her mother make me sick,this girl is behaving the way the people she trusts taught her. That girl didn’t have a chance.
They are part of the reason I hate hearing “50% of all marriages end in divorce”…well of course the number will be high when you add in couples like these!
The whole thing is way creepy …I find the mother to be just as creepy as Doug. I mean, who agrees to let their 16 year old marry some guy in his 50’s?
I also think the reason people are so creeped out by the whole thing is that she is so sexualized and they continue to play it up! If she dressed normally and wasn’t walking around in 5 inch stripper lucite heels, people would still have a problem but I think less so.
Something is seriously wrong with all these people!
Suzy – My daughter (18) is getting married in spring of 2013, to an age-appropriate pastor-in-training.
Even under these circumstances, I’m less than thrilled*. I’d like her to finish her education (she’s in college, graduated from high school at barely 17), establish her career, and be a little older first.
*Please don’t misunderstand; I’m happy for her, I love and support her. But she’s SO YOUNG.
See now I have friends who married a week after high school graduation in 2006 who are still together but there were some big problems when they were 21-23 and that was after the babies came. People change A LOT from 18-24 so marriages that take place during that time period need to understand there are going to be growing pains and it takes a strong relationship to deal with them.
Yikes these two are creepy! I think that they will end up in porn they are perfect for it both are delusional and idiots!
I caught the first 5 minutes of the show, creeped me the hell out.
As they’re walking into the house, he’s asking her “Do you need to go potty?” and she said “No, I need to go pee-pee though.”
That is not a conversation between husband and wife. It sounded more like a conversation with a 5 year old. Creeped me out, and that’s when I changed the channel.
Ew!!! That is EXACTLY the conversation I had with my four year old this morning.
GROSS! GROSS GROSS GROSS GROSS GROSS!
I always thought he did a good job playing a~hole creepy roles but now I know he wasn’t acting. I thought I was just unfairly type casting since I never warmed up to him but it seems intuition is nothing to ignore.
He plays people with a few screws loose because most of his own threads are already stripped.
I knew it was creepy and wrong before, but I was pretty surprised at Doug when I watched the clips. He’s so confrontational, and he keeps trying to start fights with other guys by saying, “I’m a pedophile, right?” And the guy who is all, “Yeah, you are” and won’t back off from that- I don’t know who he is- but yay for him. Even just to shut Doug up, no one should ever apologize for calling him a child molester just because he found a legal loophole. But he does act like an egotistical bratty teenager, so maybe his emotional immaturity makes the age gap less noticeable.
Oddly, she is sitting about a foot away from him with her back to him. Strange body language, compared to their pr0ny shots.
I think mentally there has been something off with this girl for years. She needed a guardian.
Her parents are divorced. It seems like Doug and her mother are her new parents – but sex with her father figure is thrown in just to f*ck her up even more.
The mother pulled her out of school in 6th grade, apparently had her watch pr0n videos, then sold her to the creepiest creep in Hollywood in hopes of some kind of payday. THAT is depraved.
Yeah. Whenever he goes in for a kiss she grabs his face and holds it at arm’s length while talking about how much she loves him or how hot he is. She definitely isn’t genuinely attracted to him. Who would be, really. sad.
There is so much talk about Courtney’s mother, and how she groomed her daughter to be pimped out, and that she is responsible for Courtney’s lifestyle. What about the fact that Courtney has two sisters, both pretty, and both close in age. They turned out normal.
I don’t think Courtney is the victim everybody seems to believe. She is a girl who gets off on causing drama, and being noticed for her looks. It’s not like she is the first girl who has learned to use her sexuality for attention.
It’s totally in line with what our society pushes. Beauty and sex = happiness, popularity and success. Look at any fashion magazine, many billboards, tv advertisements, not to mention “celebrities” like (former) Brittany Spears, Rihanna, Christina A., Madonna. The message is reinforced again and again thru out a girl’s lifetime. It isn’t surprising that for some girls the message sticks.
As for the marriage, while I definitely don’t approve of it, from a legal standpoint it is a valid marriage, and it isn’t valid because of a legal loop hole in the legislation. Some of u need to check on what constitutes a loop hole in legal terms.
Not to say that Doug doesn’t hold some responsibility for this fiasco, but it wasn’t like he wasn’t trolling online looking to meet young girls like many of u are asserting. Courtney’s mother contacted him because he was teaching acting workshops. That is how the two were introduced.
Oddly, she is sitting about a foot away from him with her back to him. Strange body language, compared to their pr0ny shots.
I think mentally there has been something off with this girl for years. She needed a guardian.
Her parents are divorced. It seems like Doug and her mother are her new parents – but sex with her father figure is thrown in just to f*ck her up even more.
The mother pulled her out of school in 6th grade, apparently had her watch pr0n videos, then sold her to the creepiest creep in Hollywood in hopes of some kind of payday. THAT is depraved.
I can’t not read stories about them, but they creep me out so much. I suppose Courtney can be a famewhore and deluded simultaneously. If she is sincere, she will wake up in a few years and regret her choices. Meanwhile, that Doug is such a douche, dressing like some kid in that hat and boots. The most inappropriate thing of all is putting these pigs on tv and pretending to give them therapy. If they really wanted help, they would get therapy privately and then get a divorce.
My daughter will be 16 in a couple of months, I dare any 20, 30, 40 or 50 year old man to come knocking on my door to ask for my daughter, Smith and Wesson or Colt will answer back. No I am not a hillbilly running around wanting to kill people but I will protect my daughter from crap like this.
Is this girl on drugs? She looks like she has speed jaw.
She said she wanted to “save herself” for marriage. Then followed that by saying “Some people say I waited a whole 16 years. That meant so much to me.”. WHAT? She is proud that she waited 16 years (ew) or proud that people commented? I don’t get her logic. Besides the fact that “waiting 16 years” doesn’t count, if you’re SIXTEEN! Gross, gross, and more gross!!!!! 🙁
seriously, I didn’t “save myself for marriage” but I also didn’t have sex until I was 16. I didn’t consider that particularly virtuous.
Technically, Doug would be an ephebophile, not a pedophile. There is something very unbalanced and unhealthy about their entire relationship. There would be even if you took the age difference out of the equation.
As I stated above, in response to post #10, he’d only be considered an ephebophile if he has a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to that age group (15-19), considering, for example, that adult sexual attraction to 18 and 19-year-olds is considered normal.
Anna Nicole Smith 26 married 89 year old Howard J. Marshall
Anna was a divorced mom not a teenage girl who had never had a bf
…Blegh. Whatever they are, I want nothing to do with them.
If you think this is weird then you should check out her Facebook page. It’s open to the public and the only people she appears to interact with are a handful of posters who despise her, a couple of whom take screenshots of her responses before she deletes them. When you read her reply’s you realise just how immature & damaged this girl really is. Oh and one also posted a link to an FB post by one of her sisters which clearly shows just how ashamed of her they are and how VH1 tried to drag them in to this sorry mess.
This whole situation bums me out.
She still looks over 35 to me. Used up.
I wonder what the rest of her family think. Her father? Siblings? Grandparents? Relatives? School classmates? Does she have any friends? Something went VERY wrong at the Stodden household, and/or she has severe mental issues.
Him I won’t even discuss. He disgusts me.
This, exactly. It’s disturbing. I’d like to know the real story.
Hmmmmmmm!
Hey Dougie, you don’t raise a wife, what you’re doing is grooming
Wow VH1 really went bargain shopping for this line up. I can’t believe those two are the star attraction.
The mum in me wants to take Courtney by the hand, wash that makeup off, do her hair nice, put her in normal clothes and say “What are you doing? This is not cool. This is not a life you want. Get out of Hollywood. Go to school. Get a proper job, divorce this man. He’s not good for you. If you’re on drugs get off them. Surround yourself with good girl friends. Get friends your own age. Find yourself. You’re still young. Stay away from this man. He’s using you for his own purposes”.
Me too! This girl needs a bit of nurturing. Actually, a ton. The woman who gave birth to her, and that ‘husband’ are contemptible crunts.
I watched the episode on-line. It was terrible that Nik Richie was insulting a young girl. People say a lot of mean things about her, but the fact remains is that she is still a child. Even at 18, she’s still so young and has nothing but poor influences around her. BUT, I (surprisingly) didn’t feel that Richie’s gut reaction and comments towards Doug were completely wrong. I probably would have reacted the same way, and even if not saying it aloud, I certainly thing Hutchinson is a pedophile regardless of what the law allows with parental consent. What was interesting is that after that initial comment, it seemed like all Richie tried to do was avoid Doug and Courtney because he disagrees with the relationship, and it was Doug following him around and trying to escalate the fight. A person more shameless than Nik Richie? It’s Dough Hutchinson by far.
Shades of Loretta Lynn in Coal Miner’s Daughter. She was 13 when she married ‘Dolittle’ who was and is a lazy SOB, and yet they’ve stayed married all their lives through her amazing success and celebrity. I wonder what’s made it work?
Damn phone published before I was ready. Full comments below.
These 2 make my skin crawl. Utterly revolting.
They are disgusting people, publicity stunt or not.
Doolittle once told Loretta something like, “I raised you to be a good wife. ”
Incidentally, I don’t think Doolittle was lazy. He worked and looked after the kids while Loretta was on the road. As volatile as that union was, she was devastated when he died.
I wish she’d stop referring to herself as a Christian.
I thought the weirdest thing was how she said “I was a christian girl”. Past tense. Wouldn’t most people say “I’m a christian girl”.
What disturbs me the most is how she dresses. Is this him dressing her or her mom because she certainly didn’t learn that in school! I’d feel better about the relationship if she didn’t look like a hooker!
I think it’s disturbing how hostile people are toward her. She’s a victim. The way she acts is like a child playing dress up. This predator groomed her, and her mother handed her over. She is a victim, and she deserved to be protected and she wasn’t. I spend a lot of time with girls this age through my work. Her brain is still growing. She isn’t capable of understanding the consequences of this. Her mother and her rapist are old enough to know better.
Yes. She is a victim. People do not behave this way, for publicity or not, for no reason. The poster above was right in saying that she never had a chance. He is a horrifying individual.
Even with her new face shes still a buttah face type chick. Doug is totally a pedo too. So gross those two. The should ignore them just because he is a pedo. Its like hes saying to america its ok as long as mom is ok with it u can marry a child. Itz gonna give the wrong person ideas and loopholes to get away with it.
Reddy, red, redneck. It doesn’t get any worse than this. Each is a awful as the other!
The only offensive about the marriage for me at this point is that people are still stupid enough to believe it’s serious.
“Counselor Dr. Jenn Berman: This is not a fake relationship. After spending three weeks with them, I think the biggest myth is that this is a publicity stunt, and it is not.”
Nice contrived validation there pal. Couples therapy is harder to believe if you don’t believe the legitimacy of the couple in question.
Couples who are seriously trying to work through their problems don’t do it in front of a TV camera. This isn’t therapy, it’s a job.
There’s no such thing as reality tv.
I could not get the video to load, but I did watch a video a few days ago that made me cringe.
In it, Doug and Courtney were walking into the facility where they will be getting therapy, and Courtney is trying to balance walking with her 7 inch hooker shoes and carrying one small bag on either side. Doug asks her if she needs some help and she responds with something to the effect, I’m a strong barbie. Than he asks her if she has to go “potty”, and she answers back, I have to go “peepee”. Too icky for words.
In the same clip, they show Courtney sitting in the shortest gold mini I have ever seen. She doesn’t cross her legs, and u can see her black undies showing thru. Definitely not sexy.
I still get a gay vibe from him. I’m wondering if it is a real relationship, but just one based on friendship and not sex, a relationship she is using to get noticed.
As for her claim about being a Christian girl, check out some of her earlier tweets. Many of her comments read like a poorly written soft pr0n script, and her videos “sexy veggies”, “how many marshmallows fit in my mouth”, as well as the “cat” video are obscene in a pathetic way.
I’m assuming her dad no longer approves as her parents have split up.
This couple makes me want to cry and throw up all at once. I don’t know what it is about these two, its not just their age difference because looking at Bo Derek and her husband (when she was 15) didn’t make me want to throw up or cry. This guy seems like such a pedophile. This is so not a publicity stunt and he is not gay. I mean if this was for publicity they would tailor her and their relationship to look good not creepy. Plus why would he need publicity? he WAS a respected actor. He could have gotten her a job at any time. Also I doubt a gay man would be seen with this girl (nothing wrong with her personally but her clothing and makeup)
Sadly, this is pretty accurate. They’re in the relationship for the wrong reasons. It isn’t pedophilia. She has issues that she’s acting out and nobody is helping her.
One day there will be a reckoning for this.
Pedophiles are sexually attracted to children. Those who have not reached puberty. Secondary sex characteristics do not turn them on. He is a sexual predator. Not a pedophile.
It’s funny how the writer got “offended” when Doug & Courtney brought up Celine & Renee’s relationship! Doug at least, did not watch Courtney grow up before his eyes like Renee did with Celine, which I find their relationship far creepier! Courtney was already a mature 16 year old young woman, & if Doug is considered a “pedophile” for marrying this young woman, than the same can be said for Elvis when he started “dating” Priscilla at 14! Whatever is said about them, Courtney is now a LEGAL ADULT, and if Doug & Courtney are happy, than more power to them!
Before watching Couples Therapy, I thought of Doug as a pedophile, and Courtney as a child. But, I decided to go into the show open minded and give them the opportunity to prove me wrong. Um, I see Doug as more of a pedophile now. And, he comes across as extremely insecure about his relationship with Courtney. He says one thing when Courtney is not around, and then backs up her stupidity when she’s there. It seems he is deathly afraid of losing his child-bride if he doesn’t back her in every way. And yet, he isn’t happy with some of her behavior and attire, but only expresses it when she’s not there. He also looks at her in a creepy sexual way most of the time,and it makes me want to gag, then handcuff him. As for Courtney, I have a 12 yr old daughter who is way more mature than she is. Courtney has no social skills, and cannot get along with people. She comes across as a spoiled babyish brat who has to have her own way all the time. She didn’t even understand during group therapy that the group was sharing not so pleasant experiences that were perhaps turning points in their life, and they expected the same from Courtney. I understand that at her age she may not even be able to pinpoint a turning point in her life, but she could have at least given the group something other than what a perfect childhood she had. My 12 yr old understood what Courtney did not. I’m sure as a child Courtney had some sort of experience that affected her in some way. Perhaps a fear, or death of a relative, or being bullied, since she claims to be such an expert on bullying. Then to top it off, when Dr. Jenn called her on this, she insulted the other group members, some who had opened up their hearts. Courtney’s main problem is Courtney, because she thinks the whole world revolves around her. She never asks how anyone else is doing, she mainly giggles about herself nonstop, and her child molesting husband giggles with her. AND GUESS WHAT DOUG? YOU WILL LOSE YOUR IMMATURE, SELF ABSORBED, BIMBO CHILD, BEFORE THE 4 YEAR MARK, PROBABLY SOONER. SO START CRYING NOW, LIKE YOU DID WHEN COURTNEY WASN’T THERE FOR COUPLES YOGA, AND START WAVING “BA-BYE COURTNEY”. SHE WILL GET SICK OF GOING “POTTY” WITH YOU, AND SET OFF TO “PEE PEE” BY HERSELF.OF COURSE SHE WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS WATCHING HER AS SHE GOES, BECAUSE THEY”RE SO JEALOUS OF HOW BEAUTIFUL SHE IS. Courtney’s words,not mine. MARK MY PROPHETIC WORDS DOUG!!!!