Gabriel Aubry & Olivier Martinez got into a fist-fight at Halle Berry’s house

I’m just putting this question out there: is Olivier Martinez just as crazy as Halle Berry? I’m starting to wonder, because it would honestly explain so much. That’s why Olivier hasn’t run for the hills yet. His crazy is feeding on her crazy, drama upon drama, and on and on. Anyway, it was less than three weeks when the judge ruled against Halle Berry, saying that she could not move to France with her daughter Nahla Aubry, because it would effectively end Gabriel’s custodial rights. I’ve been waiting to see what Halle’s next move would be because OBVIOUSLY that would not be the end of it. That only made Halle feel more persecuted. So when Gabriel Aubry went to drop off his daughter at Halle’s home on Thursday morning, guess what happened? Olivier Martinez came out to talk to him – and by “talk” I mean “talk smack”. A fist-fight ensued, because all of these adults act like children most of the time.

Gabriel Aubry was arrested Thanksgiving morning after a melee at Halle Berry’s house, which sent both Gabriel and Halle’s fiance Olivier Martinez to the hospital … TMZ has learned.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ … Gabriel showed up to Halle’s house with Nahla for a custodial hand-off. We’re told Gabriel was still in the motor court (a rich person’s word for a giant driveway) when Olivier walked up to him and said, “We have to move on.”

According to witnesses, Gabriel then pushed Olivier and threw a punch at his face, but Olivier blocked it and the punch struck him in the shoulder instead. We’re told Gabriel then pushed Olivier to the ground, and Olivier cold-cocked him in the face, and a struggle ensued, ending with Olivier pinning Gabriel to the ground.

In the struggle, Gabriel suffered a broken rib, contusions on his face, and possibly a more serious head injury. Olivier may have broken his hand and suffered neck injuries as well. There are conflicting accounts as to whether Gabriel was rendered unconscious in the fight.

Police were called and Olivier made a citizen’s arrest for battery against Gabriel. Gabriel was escorted to the ER and, ironically, Olivier went to the same ER an hour later. The two were just down the hall from each other.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ … a judge has issued an emergency protective order, which requires Gabriel to stay 100 yards away from Halle, Olivier, and Nahla.

And finally, there’s this … specifics about the argument between Gabriel and Olivier are sketchy because they were trash talking each other in French.

It’s pretty shocking — considering Gabriel was out with Nahla just last night for a movie date at the Grove.

5:55 PM PT — Gabriel has been booked for misdemeanor battery. According to his booking sheet, he’s listed as 6’2″ and 180 pounds. He’s still in custody and his bail has been set at $20,000.

5:30 PM PT — Sources tell TMZ … when Gabriel and Olivier started going at it, Halle rushed Nahla inside the house so she missed the brutality.

3:35 PM PT — Gabriel has been released from the hospital and is currently at an L.A. jail where he is being booked. Olivier has also left the hospital and has returned to Halle’s home.

[From TMZ]

Us Weekly’s LAPD sources say that the investigation is still ongoing and that “the cause of the fight between the two men is unknown.” A “source” (Halle) went to People Mag and said, “Gabriel attacked Olivier and Olivier defended himself.” Gabriel’s bail has been set at $20,000, which I’m assuming he made immediately and went home.

So, what’s the general opinion on this? Gabriel – fairly or unfairly – comes across like a dude with a short fuse who is now known to be “prone to violence.” Which is never good. I could make some excuses for him – Olivier was probably trying to start something because of course – but that doesn’t change the fact that Gabriel should have been mature enough to walk away (or drive away). In the end, no matter who or what instigated whatever, I’m sure this is going to end up badly for Gabriel. Halle has some serious ammo now.

Here are some photos of Halle and Olivier out in LA on Wednesday – this was before all of the violence went down, obviously. Why is Olivier wearing mom jeans?

Photos courtesy of WENN and Fame/Flynet.

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  1. lilred says:

    Did Halley and Oliver conspire to make Gabriel look like the crazy instead of them?…Fodder for future court cases against Gabriel…

    • stefni says:

      Or maybe Gabriel is an overgrown child who can’t hold his temper. Last I read, he was the one with a protection order against him, not Oliver.

      • Djinn says:

        Emergency protection order, means there’s been no hearing, at that stage it’s essentially one persons word against the other, almost always granted for a temporary period and always granted if the accused has been charged.

      • Kate says:

        Emergency orders tell you nothing. If a contested one is granted, then yes, definitely. Until then, we don’t even know who struck first.

        Given Halle’s had problems with stalkers there may be security footage of her driveway. That should be enlightening – I don’t care what words were spoken, whichever man hit first with a small child present is a massive cretin. To put it mildly.

      • Liv says:

        Why is it in the USA that everybody can get arrested or get an protection order, even if he didn’t even started the fight? I don’t know exactly how it goes here in Germany, but it seems weird – there will always be a prejudgement, won’t it?

    • Victoria1 says:

      I was thinking the same! Very interesting, I wonder how it’ll play out

    • Eleonor says:

      She wants him out of their daughter life…so it doesn’t sound that impossible to me. I hopr Nahla wasn’t there 🙁

      • kimcheee says:

        I read that Gabriel started the fight in the driveway in front of Nahla – which is why Halle says that Gabriel isn’t capable of protecting Nahla from emotional trauma due to his hot temper. Halle also left him over his hot temper, I remember reading when they split. I remember because he’s gorgeous, but a hot temper?! Deal breaker. He’s a creep in my book. He needs to get help and learn how to consider others’ feelings instead of being like a volcano….that explodes suddenly, spewing molten lava over everyone in his radius.

      • nada says:

        Seems like EVERYTHING you just said you based on what HALLE says. That is assuming an awful lot – namely that she is an honest, truthful, decent person who has the best interest of her daughter in mind.
        But most of us know that she is a lying sociopath, incapable of feeling love and attachement to someone else unless they are totally and completely devoted to her. She cares nothing for her daughter, nothing for the kid’s father, and nothing for the current boyfriend. He is just convenient and useful in her fight with Gabriel and attempts to get him out of his baby’s life. Only a total bitch would do something like that. I can’t wait for Olivier’s turn to take over the mantle of ‘abuser’ and ‘violent, immature jerk’ from Gabriel. Because it is coming. The moment he pisses her off, or stops being useful, he will be branded a DV abuser, and she will AGAIN try to paint herself as a poor, little, helpless victim.
        I bet if you listen to Gabriel’s and his friends’ side, he would not seem like such a creep to you then.
        In the US it has become too easy, almost de rigour to publically place blame on men regardless of facts, giving the women undue influence over the public opinion. I hate this stance, because that’s how lives get destroyed. Just because your ex-wife or GF says you need ‘anger management’ or sets you up to fist-fight with her new BF, does not make you automatically a violent, aggressive monster.
        Halle IS a monster for stooping to such level of baseness and cruelty just to stick it to him, and to get her way.

    • Eve says:

      …and she’s probably really happy right now because that may actually help her case.

      I can’t stand this woman. It infuriates me that she may end up getting what she wants.

      • Bej says:

        Oh can’t you just imagine how self satisfied she is with this outcome. I picture her ranting & raving to whoever will listen about her being correct in previously calling out Aubry on his anger issues, and how she must protect her daughter from him. (Yes,this is based on my bias dislike & opinion on Berry for those who want to jump down my throat for my ‘baseless’ supposition).
        I’m with you Eve in feeling frustrated that this incident could possibly give Halle Berry the fuel she needs to rip this child from her father & actually achieve her ultimate goal. I hate to demonize her, but I can’t help but see her rub her hands in glee & twirl her(yes, imaginary) evil Dr moustache as she plots the next step for Nahla Domination.

      • Barbara says:

        What kind of mother schemes to keep her child from her father? Doesn’t that woman love that daughter of her at all? Nalah seems to love her father just like any other child in the world, but for some crazy obsession it’s more important for this bitch to make her daughter suffer than anything else. She’s the one who should be prohibited to see her daughter until she’s legal. She’s bat sh-t crazy and disgusting. I’ll never watch anything with this bitch on. I refuse to give her money.

      • xeva says:

        I don’t think any of them had planned the fight, you’d have to be really sick to want your child to witness such a thing, they all live off their public image an that king of trailer trash brawl doesn’t enhance their reputation, no one believes a judge would change long term visiting rights for one fight…

      • Turtle Dove says:

        +1 Eve.

        I seriously despise Halle Berry.

      • Stellax2 says:

        I got a very bad feeling when I heard this news.
        On the surface, it would not be shocking that Halle and Olivier orchestrated this to a certain extent as it lends credence to her wanting her daughter basically all to herself.

        However, it disturbs me a bit that Gabriel fought with Olivier. He should have walked away.

        I have little respect for Halle at this point. She’s done irreparable damage to her image and self throughout the years. She’s like the girl who cried wolf. I feel like she doesn’t want to be defeated. If Halle was not allowed to Nahlia to France, then she was going to make the situation worse attempting to force Gabriel’s hand. It must be emotionally and physically exhausting.

        Also, Olivier should not have gotten involved. However, I feel like I do not know the whole story and can’t make a judgement. It’s a messed up situation for Nahla. I feel bad for her.

        Perhaps she should be placed in custody with a neutral? Even a relative?
        I feel like all parties are teetering on the edge and need a time out, much like a child.

    • Loulou says:

      Its obviously a set-up. A citizen’s arrest by a non-citizen? A judge’s order on Thanksgiving holiday? Martinez comes from the streets. My money is on him attacking Gabriel. Gabriel is a Buddhist, they’re not known for attacking anyone. This is Halle Berry’s descent into violence as an answer to her problems. It’s time Aubry got a restraining order against her and took Nahla to live in Quebec, among normal people.

      • brin says:

        First thing I thought of too: setup.
        Olivier needs to keep out of this…none of his business.

      • epiphany says:

        Couldn’t agree more – a setup, from start to finish. Even the most peaceful man will turn violent if his child is threatened, or, his relationship with that child. I grew up in Northeastern Ohio, and knew Berry back in the day – she will do what she has to, to get what she wants.

      • geekychick says:

        +1. Berry and Martinez disgust me. Why try to keep child away from a good dad??? WHY???!!!!!
        Halle has really gone to far.

      • Willynilly says:

        Its highly suspect on her part. I was bored at thanksgiving and checked my email at 4 and somehow US Weekly already had the scoop? Bitch, please. She must have immediately called her PR and had them on speed dial for the rest of the day.

      • Snowflake says:

        Totally agree. Has to be a set up.

      • rose says:

        When I read about it I said SET UP.

      • themummy says:

        Yep. Agreed.

    • Hahahaha says:

      I only came to see how this would be turned into Halle’s fault. Amazing. I’m not team anyone, but the comments on this site are hilarious. Gabriel went to her house and got into a fight with her new man and somehow that is her fault? Come on people….

      • handsome man saved me from the monsters says:

        @hahahaha, u must be used to hearing people laughing at you

      • Elizabeth says:

        Gabriel went to Halle’s house to drop Nahla off from a visit. Olivier should not have been anywhere near this, he should have stayed in the house out of the way. While Gabriel should have walked away, Olivier should not have been part of the drop off and should not have been out there talking smack. Olivier wanted trouble and he got it.

      • Iggles says:

        I know! The Halle bias has reached new heights. Gabriel was the one arrested, not Oliver. I’m assuming the police had reason to.

      • Ailine says:

        I agree. “He was set up!!!” You can’t set up people this way who aren’t prone to violence. To be a mainstream-looking, attractive man in America. You can get away with anything!

      • Jane says:

        I think Halle is getting blame because she has a history of trying to keep Nahla from GA. She has gone to court and been shot down more than once. When she filed to move to France, the next thing you know she is creating a well acted scene at Nahla’s school with a photographer over photographing her daughter; very conveniently timed for her court case.

        I just wouldn’t be surprised if she hasn’t be chewing on Olivier’s ear about her awful ex and how he is not a good father. She knows how to push his buttons and since she lost the last round in court, she is desperate.

        Actually, Olivier needs to stay out of it. He is not Nahla’s father, he is not even married to Halle. He has no business getting into their business as parents even if Halle wants him to get involved (which I am sure she does).

        It doesn’t excuse GA behavior IF he started the fight. He will have to face the consequences and learn to ignore whatever is said to him from either one of them.

      • JM says:

        To Iggles – notice it was a “citizen’s arrest”? The police acted on what they’d been told by Halle & Martinez, not on objective evidence. I think THAT is what makes us all suspicious. . . this seems in keeping with Halle’s history.

      • izzy4ya says:

        +1 hahaha,

        You know if Gabriel was ugly, half these chickens would have a different opinion…or maybe not. You know a woman always FORCES a man to get into a physical fight with another man ::eyeroll::. And for those saying that Olivier should stay out of it-he is engaged to Halle, and that means he is family, or will be. Gabriel probably sized Olivier up and thought he could shut him up with his fist. He gambled and clearly he lost, lol. They ALL seem petty but the disgust for Halle here is suspect to me. Gabriel is chillin’ like a basketball wife living off of the income of a woman he wasn’t even married to. He’s pathetic and I’m glad he got dealt with properly. Keep hands to self.

    • A says:

      Did everyone miss where Olivier reportedly said “we have to move on” that is in no way instigation towards a fight.

      • epiphany says:

        Aubrey obviously concluded that “moving on” meant he should let Berry take their daughter to France, which I suspect is how Oliver meant it. Berry knew if she said it, Aubrey wouldn’t take a swing at her, but the boyfriend? Game on. Now she has ammunition to continue her quest to move to France.

      • lena80 says:

        @ Epiphany, then Gabe is an idiot, Let’s all move on, I would think, would mean Let’s all move on as Adults for the sake of the child. He won the last case. So what exactly does he need to prove to anybody? How we do know Gabe didn’t do something first to get that remark from Olivier? You can’t “set-up” two GROWN men to fight. At the end Gabe is the father and for his daughter’s sake, he should have walked away from anything that was SAID. He has serious anger issues.

      • Amy625 says:

        @A: I don’t understand how saying they need to move on is an attack or justification for assault either. I actually agree that they need to move on and start from scratch for Nayla. People have so much hate for Halle that no matter what she or Olivier say or do it’s considered an attack on Gabriel.

      • Debra says:

        and you really believe that Olivier just walked up and said ‘we have to move on’ and Gabriel went crazy??? come on.. the witnesses and sources for tmz are halle and olivier,, of course they are going to blame it all on Gabriel.. Olivier should have also been arrested

      • Linda says:

        lol i don’t understand these comments in this post rn. i’m in bizarro world. two grown ass men start a bitch fight and… it’s halle’s fault?
        Well i guess she made them crazy with her crazy vagina powers.

      • TG says:

        Even if that statement were true. Why would Olivier say, “We need to move on”? Move on from what? Gabe is the one who won in court so Halle and Olivier are the ones who need to move on. I too think this is a setup. I didn’t even bother posting when the judge ruled against Halle because I knew it was only a matter of time before this bithc was at it again. The paps have been no where in sight during this France hearing except when they made a dropoff at a pumpkin patch and now randomly the paps and witnesses are all over the place when Gabe is dropping off his daughter? And if Halle claims the security tape was off we know she is lying becuase wasn’t this b*tch just wining to the court about security and safety? If their was no camera is is their word against him so they can lie their heads off and win. He is an idiot though because he should be a master at psycological warfare by now. So to get taken in by these two goons shows his stupidity. She knows just what buttons to press and I know any parent can get angry in a hot minute if they see a threat to their child or access to their child but he should know who he is dealing with by now. I mean she already tried to set him up using the nanny getting battered. Come on Gabe don’t let this b*tch win. She is evil and she allowed her daughter to be present during this knowing exactly what would happen. She will never marry Oliver unless she has to do get to move to France.

    • Lizzie K says:


    • the original bellaluna says:

      Count me amongst those who think this is just one more way Halle’s trying to use to get her way.

      Because when she doesn’t get her way, we already know she stoops to the next level.

      Welcome to the sewer, Halle. You’ve officially reached lower than gutter-fighting.

      (She missed her calling; she should have been a politician!)

      • Stellax2 says:

        So true! I think Nahla should be removed from all three in a safe, warm environment for a short period of time.

        I smell something rotten…
        I also think that Halle or Olivier won’t wind up marrying. Halle will of course blame it on the stress of the custody of Nahla. Olivier may come clean about the insane asylum he’s been dealing with since he’s been involved with her. Or he may keep his mouth shut and move on. He’s a known cheater, correct? A prolonged period of stress will drive people to do foolish things. While I absolutely do not condone Martinez stepping out, it just wouldn’t shock me.

    • Ailine says:

      Nooooooooo! They are not responsible for a grown man’s actions. If he didn’t have an anger problem, he wouldn’t have gotten into a fight. Stop defending this dude because he’s cute or whatever!!!!!!!!!

    • Ailine says:

      I’m so incredibly sick of people on this site making it look like Aubrey’s a saint.

      1) He is responsible for his own actions. Even if it was a “set up” he fell for it because he HAS ANGER ISSUES

      2) Women are NOT responsible for a man’s BEHAVIOR. This is called co-dependence.

      3) GA threw the first punch. He started it. He should have walked away.

      4) This idea that Halle is to blame no matter what evidence is disgusting and stupid. Just because this guy is cute, doesn’t mean people know him personally.

      Why people are so invested in a stranger is beyond me. GA could kill someone and his fans would say it’s Halle’s fault. Get a grip people!!! You aren’t in their house. You could be reading the situation incorrectly. And you don’t want to be on the side of an abuser because he is cute.

      If he has a violent temper, he should have counseling before being allowed near his daughter.

      • Snowflake says:

        How do you know that GA threw the first punch? Because HB said so?? Come on, it’s their word against his, that’s why he would be the one arrested. Remember when HB said he pushed the nanny, nothing ever came of that because she made that up.

      • Ailine says:

        I’m saying he threw the first punch because TMZ reported it that way. Plus if Olivier is an ex-boxer, he probably would be less likely to throw the first punch. Most boxers don’t go around looking for excuses to punch people. GA is just a model, OM could easily wipe the floor with him.

      • LAK says:

        @Ailine – Why is the logical conclusion that if one supports GA, they must do so because he is cute???

        By that same logic, we should ALL be on Halle’s side because that woman is so beautiful it hurts. She’s got a sash and everything.

        her beauty outranks his by several miles and then some.

        Halle by her many, many actions has given GA lots of public support whilst eroding her own.


      • Debra says:

        TMZ reported it that way because they get their info directly from crazy Halle herself

      • Mmmmm says:

        Why does no one ever bring up the fact that Halle Berry pulled and hit and run, killed a person while high on pills and then settled out of court with the victim’s family?
        maybe is no true ?

      • Kate says:

        TMZ have reported Halle Berry’s version of events all along the line. They aren’t a reliable source.

        I agree that if he threw the first punch, and with his daughter there, he’s as bad as she is. But the fact remains she has fought tooth and nail to remove his child from his life, and that is a diabolical thing to do to the both of them. This does not alter that fact.

        Nobody knows the truth right now.

      • TG says:

        His anger issues are because his right as a parent is constantly under threat by this monster Halle and now her goon Oliver. I agree that he should not fight anyway, but if someone was constantly making up sh*t about you and threatening to take your child away you might react differently too. I know I would.

      • Kitty says:

        you’re going to get attacked by the posters who find it impossible that a handsome white man who practices Buddhism can do anything other than be perfect. Men like GA, Fassbender, etc. are obviously beyond violent tempers. Plus GA has never made a mistake in his life and because Halle has issues in her past, including being a DV victim herself, she planned this whole thing in front of her daughter just to get her way. There is no way two men could get into a heated argument without the manipulation of the Evil OverMistress of Crazy, as they could never be responsible for their own actions.

      • handsome man saved me from the monsters says:

        Come on Eileen

      • Liv says:

        Kitty, don’t make this about black and white! Ridiculous!

        We all weren’t there, it’s gossip – accept our point of view.

    • Jane says:

      The last report I read there is a security camera and GA wants the film shown from it because it shows Olivier started the fight.

      Hopefully this is true. But, I wouldn’t be surprised that if there is a security camera the tape will be damaged or the camera wasn’t functioning.

      • Kate says:

        I think that in itself is evidentially useful, though. It would be so very and implausibly convenient.

    • Mmmmm says:

      Well…, he is in the hospital with a broken rib and the nose, and diferent bruises, prety serious , and Olivier just the broken hand…, and Gabriel was the instigator ? i can’t believe , both are in similar phisycal form . And don’t forget how convennient is for Halle and Olivier this , because Gabriel have issues with his temper Halle try this before with the nany and know with Olivier ? …,

      • MW says:

        The only reason Olivier’s hand is injured is because it connected with GA’s face/body when he punched it. I can hardly wait to hear the saga od the missing/erased/ malfunctioning tape. GA said the tape would exonerate him, so why don’t the cops have it already? I said long ago I was concerned for GA’s safety, and I think this was a set-up, instigated by Halle, with only HER people there as “witnesses” — again. She is a dangerous shrew. And Olivier is not far behind.

    • Violet says:

      Yes, it’s mighty convenient that the only witness to this altercation is Halle.

      Gabriel just won the court case, so it’s a shame that he stooped to Halle’s — and Olivier’s, because I think Kaiser is right about Olivier loving drama — level.

      Poor Nahla.

    • Lucinda says:

      That’s pretty much my take on it initially, that Halle is planning her next court case.

      I agree that Gabriel should have walked away. However, and this is a big however, my father is not a violent man with a temper but my mother was the kind of crazy that tempted him to levels of violence he would never have considered with anyone else. He never acted upon it but nearly 40 years after the divorce, he still gets angry when he thinks about the things she pulled.

      This thing with HB just feels too familiar to me to not defend Gabriel a bit. However, he needs to learn to walk away instead of taking the bait. It will be interesting to see if it’s shown that he didn’t throw the first punch.

    • leelee says:

      Huh, so Gabriel’s main injury (broken ribs)is one typical of having been roughed up or attacked while Oliver’s (a broken hand!)is more typical of an attacker. Interesting. Seems Halle may have found her male counterpart. Crazy love!

  2. alons-y alonso says:

    The only one that’s really suffering here is Nahla. Adults, get your s**t together.

    • Gm says:


      The article says that when they started fighting Halle took Nahla inside which would mean that they started fighting right in front of the kid. Something must be fishy cause I just can’t imagine Gabriel throwing fists infront of the child he obviously loves.

      • Naye in VA says:

        When people get angry they lose their rationality. Lots of bad things have happened around a to people because of people that loved them getting angry. Real World

      • RuddyZooKeeper says:

        Also shows how much of a priority the child is to Olivier … as in not so much.

    • Amanda G says:

      I agree! Seems like everyone here is defending the dad, but I think it’s disgusting to beat up a guy right in front of your daughter. They all need to grow up.

      • leelee says:

        If Gabriel had been the initial aggressor here I don’t think he’d have ended up with busted ribs, facial contusions, and possible concussion while Olivier walks off with a possibly broken hand and a sore neck. All three of these adults need to grow the hell up and get help, but, that aside…why would a Dad who just had a judge rule in his favor come to his ex partner’s home and get violent with her current bf? Makes no sense. Frenchie was pissed because he & Halle can’t move to France with the kid. Gabriel’s mistake was in taking the angry bait when Olivier antagonized him. He should’ve kissed Nahla goodbye, smiled victoriously at Olivier, turned & left like a mature man, not engaged with a surly, out of line bf who has no legal leg to stand on.

    • lucy2 says:

      Agreed – all of this seems like trying to win and make the other lose – not about spending quality time with the child.

  3. Launicaangelina says:

    Hot messes – all of them! That poor little girl. Halle finally got what she wanted. What a b!tch; this looks so bad for Gabriel.

  4. jinni says:

    I bet Olivier’s going to regret all of this when Halle’s crying about him being abusive on Oprah’s couch during a very special OWN tv interview exclusive in about two years.

    • Pont Neuf says:

      I strongly doubt it. Olivier is a lousy actor who hasn’t made a half-decent film in over ten years, but he is master at entering relationships with very successful women, living off them for some time and then, moving on to greener pastures. He knows how to play the game and he does it masterfully – especially if you take into account that he isn’t exactly handsome.

      Gabriel Aubry might be hot-headed, but if anyone of us had to deal with people as egocentric and unstable as Halle Berry and her manipulative gigolo, we’d have a hard time trying not to bite their heads off, too. And to think that they are using that poor little girl Nahla as a weapon against each other, is heartbreaking.

      • geekychick says:

        Oliver Martinez really comes off as a gold-digger (we have a great word for this kind of girls-“sponsored”, and I tend to think of him in the same term); as for his looks-I think that went away with Kylie years ago. 😉

      • the original bellaluna says:

        Part of me hopes you’re right, that Olivier will use her and be the one doing the dumping of her, for a change. Maybe it’ll give her raging ego a necessary check.

      • Liv says:

        I so agree with you!

        I’ve never have beaten a person, but seriously, there are people you just want to punch in the face. I can handle myself, but imagine you have to deal with Halle and Martinez – there are just people you can not talk with. You just can’t because they are unbelievably ignorant.

        Halle and Martinez clearly planned this and expected that Gabriel would lose his temper.

      • bluhare says:

        Olivier used to be hotter than fire. What was that movie . . . Unfaithful? Wowzers.

        He’s lost those looks for sure.

    • epiphany says:

      That 37 people will watch.

    • Viv says:

      Thank you @jinni! That is EXACTLY what I think will happen. We will hear all about how heartless he was. But she found her match here, he has left burned soil and broken hearts all over the place.

  5. judyjudy says:

    How scary for that little girl to have to see. On Thanksgiving! These people are crazy.

    • Cazzee says:

      Yes, that little girl must have been freaked out – what were these people thinking??? Being a small child surrounded by volatile adults is like growing up in war zone.

      I wonder if there are any mature individuals in these people’s extended families who could raise the child. The judge should award custody to a third party at this point. Honestly, it would be best for the child to get away from these out-of-control narcissists.

    • Liv says:

      Yeah, but instead of comforting the child at home, they left for a sleep-over at a friend’s house – they obviously weren’t that shocked by the accident…

      • MW says:

        +1 — but they probably will say they had to spend the night at the friend’s out of fear Gabriel would return to Halle’s house and attack them. So pathetic. Halle could not even wait a month to start more crap. If I personally knew this woman, I would hate her, and I used to be such a fan!

  6. sarah says:

    I feel sorry for Gabriel. After x many years of this and x many frivolous and damaging court/custody cases she has brought against him Im not surprised he blew (it was wrong of him regadless). When is karma going to get to this woman? Seriously?

  7. Mia 4S says:

    Forgive me if I wait for the full investigation. It sounds like we only have Halle’s side for the moment, which after everything I find worth very little. My guess is it sounds like both men gave as good as they got and this will go nowhere.

    • gloaming says:


      There’s got to be more to this.

      Just checked Radar and found this….

      Hopefully we’ll get to see the Video.

      It could all backfire on Halle if OM was the instigator…..

      • the original bellaluna says:

        Countdown to HB telling the police there was a “glitch” in the system or video (or it was “accidentally” erased) in 3…2…1…

    • Liv says:

      Okay, Martinez has a broken hand and Aubry has a broken rib.

      Isn’t this just happening when somebody (Martinez) punches another person (Aubry)? It’s very common that you break your hand when hitting someone in the face. I find it much more believable that Martinez provoked the fight and then acted accordingly.

    • emmie_a says:

      Exactly. Halle is the *star* with all the press/PR contacts. This is her side of the story so far. I’m glad the security camera tape exists because that will give us the real story — not TMZ.

    • Kitty says:

      Finally a voice of reason. We don’t know what happened. And the fact these adult men fought in front of a child is awful. The only innocent one in all this is Nahla.

    • YeahRight says:

      You sound like one of the only smart people on this blog. I don’t know exactly why people feel as if they know Halle and Gabriel personally. He is such a great father? You don’t know what he is. We have never even heard him speak a word. Looks can be deceiving. I feel like people want to hate Halle (especially women) because then it makes them feel like she is not perfect. I think she just has an affinity for low life men white or black and Gabriel falls in that category. He is not a saint! I can’t wait till it all comes out and you all look so stupid. Just like everybody hated Robin Givens and then 15 years later it all came out that Mike Tyson was exactly who she said he was. Halle just doesn’t want to pay Gabriel support which most women wouldn’t. Halle is no more crazy than the rest of the so called psycho women in the world she is just watched closely. By the way she did do a hit and run but she never killed anyone and you jealous people need to really shut up. Also if Gabriel is bad enough to put his hands on someone then he should have known how to defend himself. He got CHIN CHECKED. Take that ish back to Quebec!!!LOL

      • Bitca says:

        But (think it’s in an ancient VF interview) Halle herself DID once relate an anecdote about a pivotal point when she felt her life, loves, & career were at rock-bottom–& here’s why I find her OTT Crazee Egocentric & Useless: she decided to commit suicide via carbon monoxide poisoning in her car w/a running motor in the closed garage… with her DOG.

        Did she assume her dog was miserable too? Would be unable to live w/o her? She doesn’t bother to explain aside from saying she was going to kill her dog as well as herself, before she had some sort of Epiphany. I’d no opinion regarding her one way or anther before then, but her “poor me” manner of telling this story made me loathe her.

        Actors, models, &c are by nature fairly egocentric: it’s an occupational hazard.
        But this lamentable anecdote—that was supposed to make us pity her—made me realize she is seriously ILL. Who is so utterly incapable of thinking outside her own little world, that she’d regard it natural to take her dog with her into the afterlife? Is this woman in therapy?

        And if O Martinez said something to the effect that “we need to move on”—it was not a neutral remark—this isn’t his kid. So in addition to trying to keep stuff balanced with his rumored long-term GF in France (getting involved w/d*cks is a Halle TM), he has massive cojones. You keep yourself as far removed as possible from a lover’s parental issues with his or her ex… unless you know bodily/psych harm to the child is involved. Otherwise? It’s not your fight, & not your child/ren, so step off. Ummm, unless you’re as off-planet as Leanne Rimes.

  8. SmokeyBlues says:

    Ugh what utterly trashy behavior from these two men. So, if Halle whisked Nahla inside after the fighting ensued, that mean that these two men began fighting in the presence of a small girl. Have some self control, egomaniacs!!

  9. Saphana says:

    the sad thing is that no one would wonder if Halle worked towards this.

    They are all crazy, egoistic people and the best for Nahla would be different parents but thats not possible.

  10. Dap says:

    Can someone light up the meaning on “We have to move on” for me please ? (“You are late and now we have to move on quickly?” or “No matter what the judge said, we have to move on in France and s*ck it up?”…)

    • Liv says:

      I guess he wanted to tell Aubry he should let go of Halle and Nahla.

      But they apparently spoke in french, so we’ll probably never know. Oh wait, Halle’s feeding TMZ with storys, so we’ll probably know by evening.

    • T.C. says:

      We will find out more, it said the conversation was in French. Sounds like Oliver came out to harrass Aubry on purpose. A setup. Aubry should have smelled it and walked away. Although Oliver’s smack talking started it whoever throws the first punch is who the law says is at fault.

      Aubry didn’t do anything to Halle or his daughter but Halle now has a restraining order against him. The next step is to use this against him so he loses a right to visitation to see his daughter. Then try to move her out of the country to France. Aubry played right into their hands. He is never going to see that little girl again Halle used him as her sperm donor now she wants him gone.

  11. LadidahBaby says:

    Come on, this is such an obvious set-up I can’t believe it! Did you see Olivier’s “wounds”? They’re all offensive wounds, swollen bruised knuckles! And the arrest? A freaking citizen’s arrest! ANYone can do that to anyone! So Gabriel goes to jail with far worse wounds than Olivier has, but guess what? Olivier has a damn witness: Halle! How convenient, just after she was shot down in court! But wow, now she has an Order of Protection against Gabriel–he has to stay 100 yards away from his own kid. So gee, I guess the court will allow her to go to France now, right? Why keep her in the US when the child can’t be near her daddy anyway? This whole thing makes me sick. She has the money and the power so it doesn’t matter if she’s a crazy bitch on wheels. Gabriel is so screwed.

    • Bej says:

      Yeah Gabriel is screwed. He played right into their hands. The incident happened on Halle’s turf, so therefore the only witnesses are probably on her payrole. Therefore we’ll never know what Oliver said to provoke such a response. It was wrong to react with violence, especially in front of his child, but I imagine the man is beyond frustrated by this point. And it’s not unfathomable to believe Martinez taunted him with more than “We’ve got to move on”. As far as Martinez having mainly offensive wounds, isn’t he the son of a professional boxer, and at some point boxed himself? He can undoubtably hold his own in a fight and could make a meal out of an ex-model. And no, I’m not an apologist for Aubry because he is somewhat decent looking (doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest, & I think it was stupid of him to react like this, especially at this time)

      • LadidahBaby says:

        Cosign with all of that, including Gabriel’s macho stupidity for falling right into the clever trap they no doubt laid for him. Also agree about Gabriel’s supposed attractiveness: SO not my type. I find it offensive when people insult those who see what a crazy-vindictive person Halle is by attributing that point of view to a slavering attraction to Aubrey. Jay-suss, this isn’t 5th grade! And if we’re speaking of superficial stuff like that, WTF happened to Olivier?!? HE is the one I always thought was attractive, but the longer he stays with Halle, the squintier his eyes become! How can he even SEE? Oh yeah, maybe that’s a natural reaction to being with Halle:in order to see her skewed side of things, you almost have to be willfully blind.

      • Nikki says:

        Olivier has no business asking to speak with Gabriel. He is not Halle’s husband;he is simply her boyfriend and should not have been part of the hand-off. And, you don’t start an amicable conversation by telling people “we” have to move on. That tone is provocative in nature. Halle is trying to use Olivier to provoke Gabriel. But, any lawyer worth their salt will be able to defend Gabriel. His custody arrangement will not be impacted. Halle, with her crazy self, thinks she is winning. She’d not! And, that little girl is losing.

      • kurza says:

        Olivier has no business asking to speak with Gabriel. He is not Halle’s husband;he is simply her boyfriend and should not have been part of the hand-off. And, you don’t start an amicable conversation by telling people “we” have to move on. That tone is provocative in nature. Halle is trying to use Olivier to provoke Gabriel. But, any lawyer worth their salt will be able to defend Gabriel. His custody arrangement will not be impacted. Halle, with her crazy self, thinks she is winning. She’d not! And, that little girl is losing.

      • Nicole says:

        Olivier has no business asking to speak with Gabriel. He is not Halle’s husband;he is simply her boyfriend and should not have been part of the hand-off. And, you don’t start an amicable conversation by telling people “we” have to move on. That tone is provocative in nature. Halle is trying to use Olivier to provoke Gabriel. But, any lawyer worth their salt will be able to defend Gabriel.

    • puhlease says:

      I totally agree! I feel so sorry for Gabriel and I hope any judge can see he was set up. He seems always to have taken the high road and put his daughter first. Halle on the other just seems like a totally selfish narcissist. Even before she married Gabriel she was shady with the hit and run and her two previous abusive, unstable relationships. I think he should get some kind of punitive damages and I wish he could get sole custody. His daughter would be better off.

      • MJ says:

        I agree that Halle seems like an asshole, but being in abusive relationships is hardly something you can hold against her. That attitude is seriously effed up.

    • Zigggy says:

      I agree.

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  12. Shitler says:

    I’m sick & tired of everyone rushing to defend Gabriel & canonize him just cause he’s somewhat cute. He was with Halle for five years & agreed to make a kid with her so that tells me he was ok with her crazy as long as it wasn’t directed @ him. & now she’s ditched his ass his new job is playing a victim. I’m sick of them both & only feel sorry for little Nahla who has to have a front row seat to this sh*t until she’s old enough to ask to be legally emancipated. Poor girl will probably be better off if she’s raised by wolves cause her parents suck

    • blaugaro says:

      ditto. He was also involved in the fight, he has no excuses

    • SunnySide says:

      I’m going to have to side with Gabriel but it has nothing to do with looks. It’s logic. Gabriel got what he wanted in the court case and Halle did not, so why would Olivier have to try and calm Gabriel down with a “We have to move on” comment? It doesn’t follow. Not to mention how convenient it was that all this happened as he was returning Nahla as per instructions and the altercation went down in front of only Halle’s people and only in French. I would not be surprised if Olivier initiated a physical attack, who is going to contradict him? We knew Halle was furious and something crazy was going to happen and now it has.

      • Ailine says:

        It’s also logic that following a few reports of GA’s anger issues, he starts a physical fight on Thanksgiving day and is charged with a misdemeanor. Your golden boy is a jerk and a hot head. She could have cursed him up an down the street. The appropriate action is to walk away. He was dropping the kid off anyway.

      • Liv says:

        Halle, is it you??

    • SunnySide says:

      I’m going to have to side with Gabriel but it has nothing to do with looks. It’s logic. Gabriel got what he wanted in the court case and Halle did not, so why would Olivier have to try and calm Gabriel down with a “We have to move on” comment? It doesn’t follow. Not to mention how convenient it was that all this happened as he was returning Nahla as per instructions and the altercation went down in front of only Halle’s people and only in French. I would not be surprised if Olivier initiated a physical attack, who is going to contradict him? We knew Halle was furious and something crazy was going to happen and now it has! Poor Nahla. Google is going to be Halle’s #1 enemy as soon as Nahla is old enough to use it.

      • epiphany says:

        I don’t think he was trying to calm Aubrey down. I think “moving on” meant, “you have to get past this ridiculous fight to keep Nala in the States and let us move on to France.”
        I’ll bet that’s how Aubrey took it, which is why the fight insued.

      • Liv says:

        I believe it too, but why is he so stupid to drop the kid off just by himself? He should have someone there or record her actions. I wonder why we don’t have a tape yet. Halle would had published it without batting an eyelash.

    • Merritt says:

      I have to agree with most of this. So many of the comments here complete absolve Aubry from any responsibility. All the reports I have seen have said that he started throwing the punches first. Even if Martinez did say something asinine to him,that is no excuse to get violent. He made a choice to engage in a physical fight. The idea that it is okay if provoked, is sick and wrong.

      • Liv says:

        Did it ever occur to you that he eventually just had to defend himself? We all don’t know what happened, but he was injured more than Martinez.

  13. handsome man saved me from the monsters says:

    Feel so sorry for Gabriel and that little kid. I’m sure he’s not the only person that wants to punch the smug out of these two self centred loonies.

  14. andy says:

    Nahla is surrounded by selfish assholes.

  15. Ally says:

    Kaiser, I think you’re spot on about Halle and Oliver feeding each other’s crazy. I came across this when I googled him earlier –

    I don’t know if Gabriel has a short fuse or not, just never seen a pic or a story that wasn’t coming from Berry’s camp.

    This whole situation is really sad for Nahla.

    I’m waiting to hear Gabriel’s version of what happened, but it definitely looks like some sort of set up.

  16. Kim says:

    Actually Gabriel is the violent one with the anger issues. I’m surprised he has unsupervised visits w Nahla.His visits were supervised. Very telling that he was the one arrested,he was the one ordered to take anger management classes,he was the one with supervised visits ….Gabriel is not innocent. I feel sorry for Nahla not her parents.

    • Merritt says:

      Gabriel is the one with the history of violence. And yet, that doesn’t keep most of the comments from supporting him anyway and defending his past.

      People for whatever reason are determined to support this guy, even though, he is obviously shady.

      The court doesn’t just order anger management etc, because of the other party making claims. They will do so if their is evidence to back it up.

      He chose to act in a violent way here. It doesn’t matter what Martinez said to him. Aubry made a choice, and it may cost him in the custody arrangement.

      • paranormalgirl says:

        Actually, when there is a child involved, the court WILL order anger management based on one side’s claims. I have been a court appointed psychologist, so I know quite a bit about it.

    • bluhare says:

      All: I have read GA has anger issues before, and I wouldn’t be surprised as Halle appears to be drawn to that, so it wouldn’t surprise me that Olivier does as well.

      I think that there are two sides here, and I also think that sending your fiance out to tell your ex to “move on” is not very smart.

      But two hot guys fighting and speaking French . . . if Nahla hadn’t been at the house, I’d have lady wood right now.

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  17. Nina says:

    Poor Gab, he comes off looking really bad. He started a fight like an adolescent and lost it and still ended up in jail. Reminds me of that saying, never sleep with crazy, you pay for it forever.

  18. BLOGAHOLIC says:

    Sorry threw typo

  19. Hyena says:

    Halle totally planned this. I really hope for Gabriel’s sake he is able to prove this. We know all information that has been leaked so far is from halle’s camp as tmz and people are her mouth pieces. If Oliver was just defending himself, why does Gabriel have more wounds?? This is such BS.

  20. Tiffany27 says:

    All I have to say is she has HORRIBLE taste in men.

    Team Nahla. I sincerely hope that little girl is ok.

  21. lisa2 says:

    I know the rumor is Gabriel is prone to violence. But I don’t recall seeing any items of him in fights or creating drama outside his relationship with Halle. Olivier’s father to my knowledge was a boxer, so he has experience in fighting, seems that gave him an advantage, and his jeans too.. are loose and he can move more freely.

    On a superficial note Halle has the shortest legs.

    Gabriel stepped into this like lamb to slaughter. He should never ever have been in that house. If a fight happens in someone’s house 9/10.. the person that does not live there is the one that gets arrested. This is so disgusting on so many levels. I just can’t even find the words. And with all this drama going on the tabloids are still posting dumb stories about the usual people. Halle and her crazy family stuff has hardly been highlighted in the press.

    I feel so sorry for their daughter. They are messing this child up in so many ways. That to me is the biggest crime

    • Loulou says:

      Gabriel was way too trusting, that’s his weakness. He should have had someone with him at all times in the company of those two. He should know by now.

    • Fabgrrl says:

      Yes, pretty stupid of him to show up there himself. I understand that he probably wants to spend every mInute with his little girl, saying good bye at the door and all. But really, he should know better than to go to the crazy den. He should have asked a nanny or Halle’s assistant to bring Nahla to her mother.

    • Bej says:

      Too join your superficial sidenote, yes, for someone renowned for her body, those are some disproportionately short legs! And Olivers pants are not what I’d call Mum/Mom jeans, they are straight up Grandpa jeans

  22. loma says:

    Maybe Gabriel has a short fuse but this seems very odd to me because the timing is so close to the judge denying Halle the move to France. Also I think Halle used Gabriel’s weakness against him and egged Oliver to rile him up.

    • LadidahBaby says:

      Exactly. He was too stupid–or too macho–to see he was being set up and he fell for it. We don’t know Gabriel’s side of it yet. In any case, it’s tragic for Nahla. (As if that name Halle gave her wasn’t tragic enough.)

  23. Cathy says:

    Halle took advantage of the fact that he has a violent temper and used it to her advantage. I betcha she set him up. And he fell for it. Now she has the ammo she needs to cut Gabriel out of their daughters life. I feel sorry for the little girl. She’s totally screwed when it comes to parents.

  24. LAK says:

    I guess Gabriel didn’t know that Olivier was a boxer before he became an actor!!!

    Fighting is NOT the answer BUT if a person has spent the better part of 2yrs denouncing you to the media as an abuser and a racist, dragging you to court for the littlest infraction and generally pushing your buttons, then short fuse or not, you are going to react. Eventually.

    Olivier has no business talking smack to Gabriel about Nahla given the situation between Halle and Gabriel over the past 2yrs. If they were all civilised parents, no problem BUT in an already tinderbox situation, Olivier should have stayed out of it.

    Gabriel, very bad move. Stupid. Knucklehead. Never ever ever react with violence. No matter what Halle and Olivier throw at you.

    Ps:- those Mum jeans are TMI, Olivier.

    • LadidahBaby says:

      Agree with every word, LAK. Including the mom jeans.

    • Eleonor says:

      They should go to therapy,all of them because they are acting like Nahla is an object instead of a child.

    • Elizabeth says:

      I’m a divorce lawyer (yeah, it brings great joy to my life) and new boyfriends (or girlfriends) should never be having discussions of any kind with their partner’s ex especially when custody is still being fought over. Olivier was only out there to score points for Halle and himself. Gabriel should have walked away but Olivier should have been inside the damn house away from the whole thing.

  25. The Original Mia says:

    Poor Nahla.

  26. Bad Irene says:

    I don’t understand what Olivier Martinez has to do with any of this, I mean if Gabriel Aubry came over and tried to start fighting surely Halles’ security could have stepped in and stopped him right. I mean she is terrified of a stalker or other nutjob hurting her and her daughter and that is why she wanted to move to France right. I mean she would have full time security if she was so concerned right? None of that was just hyped up so she could get her own way, right?

    TLDR: They are all fools and I feel sorry for the child caught in the middle.

    • loma says:

      You might be onto something re: security.

      There has to be camera footage!

      • Bad Irene says:

        I would have thought so too, GA should have just walked away but I could understand his reaction in light of all her nonsense since the split, and honestly if I was a parent in his position and the ex partners’ current fling tried to offer advice as to how I should proceed in relation to MY child I don’t think I would be calm and collected either.

  27. Leigh_S says:

    Something really doesn’t match up here
    – Olivier is the shorter of the two, so Gabriel has greater reach in a fight
    – Olivier has bashed up knuckles, no mention of hand injuries on Gabriel

    If Olivier hit Gabriel in the face while on the ground, he’d have a possible wrist injury, not bashed up knuckles. He’d have had to use a jab, not a cross or hook type hit. Those require torso rotation or your elbow behind you for power.

    Olivier would have to be inside Gabriel’s reach AND be able to rotate his torso to do that kind of damage to Gabriel as well of himself. It sounds MUCH more likely that Olivier was the one on top doing the hitting!

    • Loulou says:

      Great analysis. I hope the police are as thorough in examining the injuries.

    • LadidahBaby says:

      Brilliant! Hope the investigating officers are as savvy as you. The whole thing smells like a deliberate and well-planned set-up.

    • Ms Kay says:

      In case you guys didn’t know, Olivier was a boxer, and his father was a professional boxer…

    • Ms Kay says:

      Silly Billy me imagining the whole thing, Martinez fighting back really good, Halle screaming that Monsters Ball “make me feel gooood!” line that got her the Oscar, whilst smashing a vase like a fury on her ex head, knocking him down unconscious.

      Aubry, do your research first, Olivier used to be a boxer and his dad was a professional boxer, now you know he don’t play!.. Better challenge him on a Zoolander power pout look and catwalk contest or something.

      BUT joke aside…

      Aubry had a troubled childhood, he had many foster homes until he was 18 child, so it may be partly explanation of his temper but NOT an excuse. As troubled he might be and as much as he adores his daughter, he should’ve controlled his temper no matter whoever/whatever provoked it, especially when the judge ink-decision to rule out Halle bid to move to France was still fresh thus not even dry yet.. Halle got her golden Thanksgiving turkey. She’s already stuffed with smugness and happiness, but who can blame her? Even I can’t on this one, as much as I’ve loathed her for ages (way before she met Aubry), her ex totally did this to himself, same goes for Martinez as both men should’ve made a better call of judgement. Just that facts are since it happened at Halle house it will only be her, Martinez, and perhaps everyone who works for Halle words against Aubry. Overall the only victim in all of this personal drama is Nahla. All the adults are acting like jerks. Can’t they try and get along for the sake of the child? *sigh*

    • RuddyZooKeeper says:

      You’ve saved me! I couldn’t puzzle this out. I tend to think and solve in pictures, and this just wasn’t coming into focus. Their weight and height differences change the way the blows/wounds were given/received from what I would normally expect–the physics were off.

      This couldn’t be a toe-to-toe fisticuffs. I don’t think a fist broke Aubrey’s ribs or cracked his noggin. The smaller guy has a broken hand and hurt neck (??). The man with physical advantages lost consciousness, has head injuries, facial wounds, broken ribs, etc. The extent of GA’s injuries also make it clear why assault charges weren’t brought against Olivier first (yet).

      Sure, boxing experience gets you something. Like maybe the reflexes to take a shove from a larger guy and throw him off balance? When he falls you can kick his ribs to make sure he stays down. Then you get on top of him, punch his face so hard you break your hand and he cracks his head on your girlfriend’s driveway. That’s just me letting my imagination run wild, but it makes more sense anatomically and physics-wise than these two swinging toe-to-toe. I want to see that security camera footage and figure out how Olivier managed to inflict so much damage and come away with what sounds like just offensive wounds.

    • Feebee says:

      I agree that something’s off here and really analysing the injuries may help work some of it out. A smaller guy who knows what he’s doing can easily beat a larger guy who doesn’t. The big guy’s reach is only a factor if he connects.

  28. Shelly says:

    First why is Olivier even talking to Gabriel about the situation, it’s not his place, Gabriel shouldn’t have punched him but when it comes on to your kid and pple who should have no say at all start talking out their mouth your bound to have a short fuse. I’m siding with Gabriel on this one

    • Loulou says:

      Looks like Halle riled up her pit bull. No offense to pit bulls. I’m so boycotting anything of hers.

  29. serena says:

    I’m sure Oliver made some agreement with Halle to make Gabriel lose his sh-t and hit him, so that they could pull off Nahla from him.

    In the end, they had what they wanted, right Halle?

  30. Natasha says:

    Regardless of whether Gabriel was verbally provoked or not, he should have been adult enough and loved his daughter enough to not start or continue a fight with her in the vicinity, particularly when he has just won quite an ugly court battle to keep her close by. I have no idea how Halle can somehow manipulate a grown man into a fist fight, but whatever. These two guys acted like kids in a playground and Halle should never let it have come to this. They’re all as crazy as eachother. I just feel so bad for Nahla to be so young and have to see all this ugliness.

    • oh dear says:

      “particularly when he has just won quite an ugly court battle”
      agreed. thats why i think there has to be more to this “story” for him to lose it like that. im not convinced he started though. would have to see the video if there is one lol its just too easy for halle’s camp to say the model started. hes the only one whos got something to lose here. either hes too dumb to realise that or he was attacked first.

      “I have no idea how Halle can somehow manipulate a grown man into a fist fight”
      he is a total manipulator himself. not only is he playing halle but he also has some chicks on the side in france. he has all the motivation needed to play his part in this. actually, i think he wants to take halle and the girl to france more than halle wants to leave.

      whatever it is, this whole situation is effed up. i feel for that little girl.

  31. bluecalling says:

    humph… i read somewhere that the whole family (yes, halle, gabriel is family) was together a couple of days ago and looked friendly… so, um, what happened?

    and peoples, being extra sensitive because of previous experience do NOT make you crazy. i still get weary of people rushing by me because of a previous mugging and i am certainly not crazy… per say 🙂

    happy holidays y’all!

  32. Kat says:

    Too much drama, even for thanksgiving… poor little girl.
    These sounds like set up for me too, think it’s weird that Gabriel was pretty much injured than Mommy Jeans Martinez if the story is just as TMZ is telling… but you know, it’s TMZ.
    Btw, this xmas i’m asking Santa a new pair of jeans for Olivier, for me those every-single-day-of-my-life jeans are even more disgusting than all this drama…

  33. kibbles says:

    I’ve been on Team Aubry since the start of this custody battle so my view on this situation is admittedly skewed, but I understand why Aubry would be prone to violence against Martinez after this bitter custody battle to prevent Berry and Martinez from taking his daughter to France. I also believe the theories that this could be a set up by Martinez and Berry. Either way, Martinez should mind his own business. I don’t care if he is dating Berry, Nahle is not his daughter and he shouldn’t be fanning the flames by trying to even discuss this matter with Aubry outside of court. I just have this weird feeling that Martinez and Berry were looking to pick a fight because they are angry about the court’s decision, and this led to a heated exchange of words which led to physical violence. I know that Aubry could very well have a short temper, but I can’t help but feel bad for this guy. He seems to be a good father who has not used any violence on his daughter and that is all that matters. He loves his daughter and he deserves to see her on a regular basis. The fact that Berry and Martinez would even think about taking Nahla away from her father and the rumors they’ve helped spread about Aubry to the tabloids makes me think that they will stop at nothing until they get their way. The ultimate victim here is Nahla but Aubry has had to deal with a lot and I can’t blame him for being frustrated enough to hit Martinez.

  34. Minxx says:

    This looks like a set up to me. Halle used Oliver to provoke Gabriel. I hope the investigations shows what really happened – their injuries don’t add up. And now Halle has what she wanted: a retraining order and more ammo against Gabriel. I hope she gets what she deserves in the end.

    • lena80 says:

      You can’t “set up” a grown man not to be able to walk/drive away from a situation. We were all taught at a young age to keep out hands to ourselves, not use them because someone supposedly SAYS something you don’t like. Rihanna supposedly called Chris Brown names when she saw text messages from another girl…was her beat down warranted?

      • handsome man saved me from the monsters says:

        Olivier might wear mom jeans but I’m pretty sure he’s not a woman

      • Samantha says:

        You definitely can set up a man who has been pushed to his limits by a long, drawn-out and bitter custody dispute. That doesn’t excuse him for falling for the setup.

        He should have walked away. Period. Whether Martinez started it or he did, Aubry should not have let his anger get the best of him. There’s not really any excuse, setup or not, that can justify his behavior.

        But Martinez’ behavior can’t be justified either. He obviously didn’t just “defend” himself, since Aubry was injured more severely and Martinez has mostly offensive wounds, based on the reports.

        The whole thing is a mess.

  35. Theresa says:

    I totally agree that Gabriel, regardless if he was provoked or goaded, should have walked away. Now, it is his word against the entire Berry Camp, and unless there is video footage I doubt he will have a snowballs chance in hell to clear his name.

    He is majorly screwed.

    That poor little girl, not only does she have the genetics of two very emotionally unstable people, but she is growing up in Hollywood with nothing but drama. ALL of them need to be in therapy.

    If Halle had the best interests of her child at heart, she would not be involved with anyone right now, she would retire from the business and she would move to a discreet location and raise her child with privacy and dignity. She has the money to do this. Sadly this will never happen. I have no sympathy for her, either of the men involved. Only Nahla.

  36. blufriday says:

    Gabe is dumb. He must have anger issues and who could blame him for snapping, but he is too dumb to see what is happening and too dumb to deal with Halle who is the master of manipulation. Ray Charles could of seen this set-up happening.

  37. Mich says:

    Nahla is going to be able to write one hell of a best selling autobiography when she grows up.

    Poor baby girl.

  38. Isan says:

    Reading about this makes me really sad. There are only losers in this situation. No one has the right to deprive a child of the father and vice versa. I can’t imagine how Aubry must have felt when they started the procedures to take her away. The damage this little girl is suffering because of all this drama is enough to last her therapy for years to come.

  39. lena80 says:

    I can only shake my head at all of the “poor Gabe” comments. Stop letting his good looks and photo ops with his daughter cloud sensible judgement. He’s a GROWN a** man with a CHILD. I don’t care who instigated what with WORDS, it’s NEVER okay for anyone to put their hands on anybody especially in front of small children. The Aubrey apologists are disgusting. This is the same train of thought that abusers use…that a person drove them to physical violence because of WORDS. And how the hell is Halle responsible for the actions of two GROWN MEN?

    So what if Olivier said let’s all move on, that can easily be interpreted as let’s move on as Adults for the sake of the child…not I’m taking your kid to France! ALL adults need to grow up and Gabe’s violent tendencies have been talked about for awhile now but some people said she was lying or exaggerating, well here’s some proof now and yet people are still condoning his behavior?? Disgusting.

    • Dap says:

      What proof? Berry and Martinez rushed to the tabloid with their version of the affair. That not proof. All previous allegations: the child neglect, the racist rant, the nanny assault have made pschhh…! when brought in court. How can you know it will be different this time? Aubry is already saying to radar that Martinez start the fight and that he expects the security camera to prove it. Wait a bit before singing Berry’s praise.

      • RuddyZooKeeper says:

        I am certainly not saying I know where the exact percentage of blame should lie or the degree of punishment that should be handed out, but when did getting the crap beaten out of you prove that YOU are the one with the violent tendencies?

      • lena80 says:

        @ Dap, he had court ordered anger management before. @Ruddy, Olivier was a if the events happened the way TMZ and the police report show, Gabe struck Olivier first, and Olivier beat that a**

      • jwoolman says:

        Lena80- The anger management classes were ordered when the nanny hired by Halle made accusations against Gabriel that didn’t hold up in court. Likewise with supervised visitation. These things are ordered as a precaution when such charges are made regardless of whether or not the charges hold, to protect the child. Same thing with temporary restraining orders- just a precaution before the dispute is settled in court, doesn’t mean the person “restrained” did anything. Halle is the source of claims about Gabriel’s temper, and she claims that about all her exes once she’s done with them (they’re sweet and wonderful before that…).

    • AJ says:

      I agree with what you’re saying. Looks shouldn’t sway people’s opinions.

      However, I would add that we just don’t know what really happened, ie, we don’t know who threw the first punch.

      Because I, for one, am suspicious of the timing of this. And of who these witnesses are. If they were just people walking down the street, that would be more credible to me. But if they’re Halle staffers or family, they might have a different version of who threw the first punch.

      Not excusing Gabriel at all, but there’s starting a fight, then there’s self-defense. I don’t know which this was, and I don’t know that we’ll ever know the truth unless there are security cameras.

      I’d also add that the only person I feel for in all of this is Nahla. Because it’s clear now she has three unstable adults in her life and that’s tragic.

    • Ailine says:

      I totally agree. I used to feel sorry for him, because everyone would say that Halle was crazy. In this case, there is no proof that this guy isn’t as crazy as Halle’s camp says he is. No proof.

      Yeah, he looks cute with his kid, but that doesn’t mean he is dad of the year. And it definitely doesn’t mean that he was a good boyfriend to Halle. He deserves to have his custody suspended while he gets treatment. He’s a jerk.

    • LAK says:

      @Lena80 – i am asking you the same question as @Ailine. Why do you think that people on this board are supporting GA because he is goodlooking?

      Halle is far more beautiful. MORE. by your logic we should ALL be supporting her. Not him.

      • LahdidahBaby says:

        Right on the mark, LAK! You are so right, and I really find it offensive that the Halle supporters accuse the Gabriel defenders of being snowed by his looks. First of all, that’s an insult to our judgment and rational thought. As far as I can see, Gabriel is just a tired-looking guy with a world of power against him. But isn’t that accusation just the kind of low-blow used by Halle herself in this debacle? She accuses Gabriel of all sorts of crazy things when she herself seems crazier than anyone, and Olivier is running a close second (it must be a result of living in Halle-Hell). The truth is, some of us (a lot of us, from the look of it) are suspicious of the timing and circumstances of this altercation. Olivier’s “citizen’s arrest” of the far more seriously injured Gabriel is suspicious. Olivier’s purely offensive wounds support our suspicion, as does the Berry camp’s immediate request for an “emergency protective order,” which, like the citizen’s arrest, anyone can request and it is invariably granted until the situation has been thoroughly investigated….and meanwhile it becomes part of the case against Gabriel and the case FOR Halle to take Nahla to France–a case she just lost in court. I’m sure she was furious, and Halle Berry doesn’t like being told NO. Together with her pricey legal team, I feel certain this whole thing was orchestrated to serve her desire to take Gabriel’s daughter away from him and start life fresh with Olivier as if Gabriel never existed. That’s what she does, isn’t it? When she’s done with a man she demonizes him and leaves him emasculated, discredited, and damaged in the eyes of the world thereafter. But we don’t even know what Gabriel’s side of the story is, nor have we seen the security film yet or heard what investigators think. All we have is the stink of the timing here, the knowledge of Halle’s histrionic personality, and the well-grounded suspicion that Gabriel may have simply been defending himself. After all, hasn’t he spent the last two years defending himself (and Nahla) against a much-more-powerful coterie of people who want to take the inconvenience of him out of Halle’s new life so that she can move on as if he never existed?

      • LAK says:

        LahdidahBaby : couldn’t have said it better. And you know what is so horrendous about all this, is that GA will ALWAYS live under the suspicion of her accusations because despite the court investigating and finding in his favour, the fact that she threw those accusations out there will always a cloud over him. afterall to most decent people, what loving mother would say such things about her loving daughter’s father if those things weren’t true? a vindictive one, that’s who. This is the celeb version of what happens up and down the land.

        Also, the court of public opinion ALWAYS tends to side with the mother where as the Father has to prove his worthiness of being a father. The fact that he had to work with the court, take whatever programs they insisted he take in order to prove that worth, whilst being evaluated on an ongoing basis because the mother made false accusations or had her employees do the same, somehow escapes those who use those very same lessons as proof that he is infact the shady person the mother claims he is.

        People will argue that the courts wouldn’t have investigated in the first place but from reading legal arguments on here and various people’s experiences, the courts are always on the side of caution. It’s a case of guilty until proven innocent as we can see with the protection order that’s been issued in this instance and all those court evaluations and supervisions etc

      • lena80 says:

        I don’t understand this question. Most, NOT ALL, of the women who support Gabe have repeatedly commented on his good looks, how hot he looks, panty dropper, etc. It’s sexual, albeit in good fun, nature. They don’t want to hook up with Halle.

        Furthermore, I’m in no means a Halle “supporter”, if you are familiar with my posts about Halle and Gabe I repeatedly say they both need to grow up for Nahla. As far as Olivier injuries vs Gabe’s, Olivier was a boxer, so regardless of who started it, Olivier is going to have the advantage in the fight since Gabe as far as I know has no boxing background. And FYI, lets not forget that Gabe has had court ordered anger management. And the nanny case was dropped due to lack of evidence and that doesn’t mean Gabe didn’t do it. Halle has said that he is violent/has anger issues, etc..and this latest situation only proves her claims IF they occurred the way the story is reading.

    • LAK says:

      @Lena80 – you and @Ailine have made the observation that people’s read of the situation is that GA is handsome = innocent.

      I have lurked and read this HB vs GA thread for sometime and no one has ever made that conclusion When talking about it when defending GA except the HB apolOgists or people like you who claim to be simply observers.

      I think we are all aware that GA is handsome, and some people have commented on it, but I have never seen a GA is handsome = innocent of all charges observation except from you and some others as a way to prove YOUR point.

      Further, in a case where the smallest infraction and accusation has led to a court investigation, how come there is always a lack of evidence? As a matter of course, when someone is accused of violence,it is recommended that they take anger management lessons. If GA had refused to take them, that would have been as bad a mark against him as your accusation which is that since he took them, he must really need he is damned if he does and he is damned if he doesn’t. I said at the time those lessons would be held against him, and here we are.nevermind that he had never had any such accusations against him before. No gossip, not even those silly blind items can make up stuff about him that says he is an abuser in need of anger management lessons. Further, when he took the lessons,the court looked at his entire life, including Nahla and found nothing to alarm them. Nanny accuses him of abusing her and first thing halle does is get a court order to strip him of his rights. And that was after accusing him of being a racist. All of these things have been found not to be true.she then insists on moving to France, again denied because court decided it wasn’t in the best interest of the child. A child apparently being parented by someone with anger management issues with court approval and no supervision.

      • lena80 says:

        @ Lak, if I’m not mistaken Halle was the first to say that Gabe had violent tendencies. Then nanny accused Gabe of pushing her and trash talking. Court ordered anger management requires the party to admit to it in some way or another so they had something on him in order for the court to say take it. WE really do not know this man to say he’s innocent or guilty but I’m just buying that it’s ALL of Halle’s fault. At the end of the day, Gabe is Nahla’s father and he just won a huge case to keep Nahla in the states so he should have been smarter than to put his hands on another man because he SAID something (if true). I just simply don’t condone violence and if you read the comments on this post a lot of from women are saying he must have been pushed into it…that is same thing abusers say when they beat their significant others..that they “made” them do it. Sorry but at the end of the day, I do think the “fantasy” of handsome Aubrey had clouded people’s judgement. How is Halle responsible for two GROWN men actions and what magical vagina powers does she has to “push” a man into fighting another man in front of HIS daughter?

      • Liv says:

        Lena, in my opinion Halle and Gabriel are equally “beautiful”, so the same would have to apply to Halle.

        My conclusion would be, that people might see their attractiveness first, but judge Halle then for her crazy behavior and Gabriel for making an effort.

        P.S. Haven’t you ever met people who are very good in manipulating others to get what they want?

      • emmie_a says:

        lena80: Why don’t you just comment for yourself and not worry about the “clouded” judgement of others? I for one never even considered Gabriel’s looks when forming my opinion. And as a few others have pointed out, if we were basing our opinions on looks, Halle would come out on top. This has nothing to do with a handsome man or a beautiful woman. It comes down to a disturbed case of revenge.
        And I have never heard that court ordered anger management requires the accused party to admit to guilt —

      • LAK says:

        @Lena80 – And who did Halle make those accusations to??? gossip rags and tabloids. After 2years of telling everyone and reputable magazines that GA was and would always be a good father and human being. Ditto Eric Bennet. One minute she was giving interviews about how he had made her a woman and the best person for her and next a cheater, liar scumbag human. So at this point we can agree that Halle is one of those women who will bad mouth to the extreme ALL her exes which means anything SHE says needs to be taken with a sackful of salt. In either direction. I can’t wait for the Olivier character assasination because it is going to happen. That is her ammo. She’s already told what a fantastic person he is, so …..

        Anyway, back to the issue at hand, that nanny said he was violent in the presence of Nahla. Many people on these threads, who work in the court system under various guises, including family cases, have said that in such a situation, anger management would have been prescribed as a matter of course. It became very apparent that the nanny, who was on HB’s payroll, had overstepped her bounds and was clearly making up stuff to help her employer because HB’s immediate reaction, just like in this case was to strip GA of his parental rights and get a supervised order in place. All this was granted PENDING an investigation as is happening now, and at the end of it all, it was found to be baseless. How is it that one person can face so many court investigations and the court finds in their favour everytime? He isn’t bribing the court officials, is he?

        BTW: In the nannygate situation, the court requested ALL to get counselling. i presume HB took hers as much as GA took his. And yet only GA is left with the stigma of it. Funny that we don’t hear about HB’s court ordered programs.Everything we know about GA is handily and readily supplied by HB. ditto court cases. GA has been on the defensive for so long i am surprised it took him this long to snap. And i am not condoning his reaction at all. HB’s strategy in this custody case is very similar to co$. Atack! attack! attack! And don’t give the person time to breathe or settle. This pattern of behaviour is ingrained in HB. We don’t celebrate GA’s victories. Rather we ask, what will HB do next???

        And let’s not forget that all this started because GA went to court to have his name added to the birth certificate thus solidifying his parental rights to the child.

  40. Serenity says:

    It appears that Aubry actually wants to be in his daughters life and Nahla’s crazy witch of a mother is doing everything she can to remove him permanently from her life. Seems that Halle is the one with the problem.

  41. Ms Kay says:

    Silly Billy me imagining the whole thing, Martinez fighting back really good, Halle screaming that Monsters Ball “make me feel gooood!” line that got her the Oscar, whilst smashing a vase like a fury on her ex head, knocking him down unconscious.

    Aubry, do your research first, Olivier used to be a boxer and his dad was a professional boxer, now you know he don’t play!.. Better challenge him on a Zoolander power pout look and catwalk contest or something.

    BUT joke aside…

    Aubry had a troubled childhood, he had many foster homes until he was 18 child, so it may be partly explanation of his temper but NOT an excuse. As troubled he might be and as much as he adores his daughter, he should’ve controlled his temper no matter whoever/whatever provoked it, especially when the judge ink-decision to rule out Halle bid to move to France was still fresh thus not even dry yet.. Halle got her golden Thanksgiving turkey. She’s already stuffed with smugness and happiness, but who can blame her? Even I can’t on this one, as much as I’ve loathed her for ages (way before she met Aubry), her ex totally did this to himself, same goes for Martinez as both men should’ve made a better call of judgement. Just that facts are since it happened at Halle house it will only be her, Martinez, and perhaps everyone who works for Halle words against Aubry. Overall the only victim in all of this personal drama is Nahla. All the adults are acting like jerks. Can’t they try and get along for the sake of the child? *sigh*

    [Edit : sorry for the double post, I wrote the same under another CB user…]

  42. Reece says:

    I will reserve judgement till the whole story comes out.
    I will say…When Nahla grows up and is old enough to understand all of this mess, there will be hell to pay.

  43. skuddles says:

    Absolutely a set up, and sadly, Aubry took the bait. Unless, of course, he was just flat out attacked and forced to defend himself. I do not believe for a second he went there looking for a fight, particularly in light of the fact he just had a big victory in court. And I don’t buy this talk about Aubry having an out of control temper – I think the guy has choked down PLENTY of frustrations and indignities, publicized attacks on his character, etc, in this custody war, but he’s a human being and is being pushed to the end of his tolerance. What devoted father who is fighting for the right to remain in his daughter’s life would not get their back up in this situation, especially when the other parent has made it clear she’ll stop at nothing to screw him over?

    I also find it odd that he, himself, dropped Nahla off – wasn’t there a nanny doing this before to prevent him and Berry from having direct contact? Whose idea was it for him to go to Berry’s home? And why the hell is Martinez getting involved? That right there tells me the fight was deliberately provoked. As usual, the common factor is Berry. I have little doubt she orchestrated the whole mess. One thing she has proven, beyond a doubt, is there is nothing she won’t do to get her way. Martinez is as much a patsy as Aubry. Lovely of her to provoke a fight between the men when her daughter is there to witness it – that says a lot about her character.

    • bluhare says:

      skuddles, I think I agree with you. It was Thanksgiving, the nanny probably had the day off.

      • skuddles says:

        That makes good sense bluhare as to why Aubry dropped Nahla off himself.

        Another thing that makes me think this was a set up is how much Aubry stands to lose. And what motive could he have had? He just won the France battle, he would be feeling pretty good about the situation. Berry, on the other hand, would not be happy with the court ruling and she is the one who stands to gain from the fight. Guaranteed she’ll use this as proof to once again accuse him of having a vicious temper – maybe even going so far this time to imply he could be abusive with Nahla. Absolutely nothing would surprise me at this point.

  44. Miss M says:

    I am working, so I will be brief.

    My take is set up just for 2 reasons: last night I read on the tmz update that they argued in French; how come Aubrey started the fight he has more damages? Odd.

    We’ll see what this video will show. He should had walked away, Nahla i snot his child and last time I checked she has one who really wnts to be involved in her life.

    Also, Martinez is proving to be as crazy as Halle… I wonder what excuse she will give when they break up…

    ps: I am still getting used ot my new name here (former LucyOriginal).

    • Miss M says:

      I was rushing to write while I was waiting the incubation time of my experiment… I meant to say Aubrey should had walked away and Martinez should mind his own business. Nahla is not Martinez’s daughter.

  45. BLOG A HOLIC says:

    Team Halle

  46. Starlight says:

    I feel sorry for this guy. He ruined his modeling career.

  47. jc126 says:

    Still Team Gabriel all the way. It’s too bad he took Halle and Olivier’s bait.

    BTW, I disagree that Halle and Gabriel are “still family”. The kid is family to both of them obviously, but exes do NOT remain “family”, in my opinion.

  48. Guest says:


  49. SuzyQ2 says:

    SET-UP. That was my very first thought when I heard about this yesterday.

    Aubry didn’t say anything about the judge’s decision and I haven’t seen any pics of him and Nahla in the press recently. Seems he was just getting on with his life.

    Can’t say the same about Ms Berry. She has been papped all over during the last few days. When I saw the photos that said ‘Olivier Martinez drops Nahla off at school’ I KNEW she was planning something.

    And just look at that pic of Martinez at the top of the site. Look at his crazy eyes.

    Poor, poor Nahla.

    • Kimbob says:

      Totaly agree, @SuzyQ2. It’ll be interesting to see how this all unfolds. Reading all blogger comments, it seems the majority of them agree…..this was a TOTAL SET-UP…TOTAL!

      I just feel down to my bones that Halle knows exactly how to push Gabriel’s buttons, & what’s not a better way of doing such than sending Mr. Current Boyfriend, Olivier, outside to “talk” w/Gabriel? Maybe I’m wrong….maybe Olivier acted ON HIS OWN; maybe Olivier is pissed because they can’t move to France (his home) w/Nahla, & maybe he was ticked….maybe fortified w/a little wine or liquor on Thanksgiving, & went outside when Gabriel brought Nahla back, & talked a little smack to Gabriel? Maybe…just maybe so.

      I’m IN NO WAY EXCUSING Gabriel…at all. However, given the circumstances, & the whole situation is volatile, & Halle most likely knew Gabriel would “take the bait.”

      I just see set-up written all over this. From reading blogger comments about the possible existence of a security tape, I sure hope authorities can get their hands on an unblemished copy of such. I think any video of this incident would shed some much needed light on this incident.

      Considering the physical smack-down Gabriel got, it’s so obvious Halle & Olivier were both extremely pissed they didn’t get their way in court w/regards to moving to France.

      Gabriel’s actions in “taking the bait” are not excuseable…he’s gonna pay for it, no doubt. Hell, he’s already paying for it. Don’t reports say that his head injury may be really bad? My sentiments/sympathy are for Nahla AND Gabriel. To me, (& maybe I am biased), but it’s really difficult for me to feel any compassion for Halle & Olivier. I’ve felt all along that Halle & Olivier have “ganged up” on Gabriel, & tried to make him look like a POS from the very beginning.

  50. OXA says:

    I feel this all Halle’s doing, she staged this whole fistycuffs to get him out of Nahla’s life. This is all too convenient and now she can have the kid to herself and move to Frogland. How come Ollie is getting involved in the custody matters, how did he make a citizens arrest when he is a foreigner?Why did she not immediately turn the securtity footage over to the cops when they arrived?
    Radar says Gabriel Aubrey is anxious for the security recordings to be viewed by the cops as they will prove that Ollie started the fight and he was just defending himself.
    How did she get a Judge for the TRO so early on a Thanksgiving morning?

    This whole thing reeks of Halle’s historicly horrific accusations against her former lovers.

    • SuzyQ2 says:

      And how much are you betting that Beri-beri will say ‘Oh, the security camera was turned off’ or ‘the tape was recorded over – Oops!’

      I wonder what type of karma is served up to those who deliberately try to separate a little girl from her adored father?

    • Janet says:


      I’d hate to see what you call Latin American and African nations.

      • bluhare says:

        Janet: I agree. Ruined the post.

      • Kimbob says:

        @Janet & @bluhare, please excuse my ignorance, but what does “Frogland” mean? I really don’t know, but it’s obvious the connotations are something about France, right? What does this mean….is it a slur about French people? Again, I’m sorry, as it sounds like a negative slur, but I don’t know what it means.

      • LAK says:

        @Kimbob – Yes it is a derogatory term for french people.

  51. Guest says:

    Gabriel is also a foreigner; he is French Canadian or Quebecois. Quite interesting.

  52. mike says:

    You peeps make me sick.

    Why are you so intent on canonizing this (rumored violent) man while lynching this (rumored crazy) woman?

    Remember: the police arrested Gabe, not Olive. They were on the scene, took witness statements (including from both combatants), and decided that Gabe was most likely at fault. This may turn out to be nothing, but at the very least, it looked to the police on the scene that Gabe was the instigator.

    Unless it turns out that Olive in fact instigated the fight (highly unlikely), there’s no excuse whatsoever for Gabe’s thuggish actions. “He provoked me!” is no more excuse for Gabe than “she provoked me!” was for Chris Brown.

    BTW, I know it’s become a meme, but real evidence (i.e., not blind gossips or alleged “sources” from gossip rags) is there that Halle Berry is crazy?

    • Ailine says:

      I agree completely. The police did an investigation and he was arrested. People who refuse to see the truth because of personal biases are so stupid.

      • emmie_a says:

        The police didn’t do a complete investigation. It’s an on-going investigation. For the time being they believed Halle & Olivier’s account over Gabriel’s account of the situation. It’s part heresay until they (hopefully) look at the security video and piece together the truth.
        It seems to me that people who decide what happened before knowing the facts are the stupid ones.

      • bluhare says:

        Wow, nice job on calling the majority of posters on this thread stupid, Ailene. And the police have not done an investigation. They responded to a call.

    • ruby says:

      This exactly. I don’t know why people insist on raising Gabriel up as this good guy when all he does points towards him being a douche. Halle is no angel either, but I don’t think things are as black and white as everyone here believes.

      I can’t help but notice how women in custody battles are painted as crazy bitches every time. Kelly Rutherford anyone ? It just seems deeply wrong that everyone starts bashing these mothers so gleefully because they separated from their partners and dare to disagree with them.

      • Dap says:

        @ruby: Kelly Rutherford and Halle Berry have tried very obviously to cut their ex from their children life. That’s what is repelling people, not their divorce.

      • bluhare says:

        I wouldn’t throw Kelly Rutherford out there as a perfect parenting example. Looks to me like she’s reaping what she’s sown. Even the judge in her case said pretty much that.

    • LAK says:

      “BTW, I know it’s become a meme, but real evidence (i.e., not blind gossips or alleged “sources” from gossip rags) is there that Halle Berry is crazy?”

      How about her own interviews given to non gossip magazines over several decades in which she tells bad things about all her exes and gives quotes about her personal beliefs which are simply crazy – see several issues of EBONY magazine as an example. Several interviews given to Oprah over the years.

      How about the court or police transcripts where she’s given less than satisfactory answers for why she found herself in said situation eg those repeated hit and runs.

      The fact is that she is the common thread in her own tale of woe. Many of her former fans say they always thought she was the victim BUT now several decades later, they see a pattern. And it’s all her.

      Since she keeps getting together with less than stellar men, conclusion is that she is either attracted to that sort of man and or she’s the type of person [non gender specific] who brings out the crazy in the people they date. It happens, no big deal until someone gets hurt.

    • T.C. says:

      The police arrested him due to Oliver and Halle’s complaint. There has been no proper investigation. Gabriel has nothing but defensive wounds (broken ribs, face lacerations, head wound) which have to be analyzed. They also have to look at the security video. Right now it just a he said they said.

      Remember Halle accused Gabriel of pushing the nanny went to court and he was found not guilty. The truth will come out.

    • jwoolman says:

      Gabriel was too seriously injured for the police to talk extensively with him, I would assume. He really needed medical attention. The ones who were walking and talking were Olivier and Halle. They made the charges and the police had to act on that basis. The judge may very well decide differently, after forensic analysis of the injuries and the surveillance video if it hasn’t mysteriously disappeared. Even to a casual observer, the injuries are not consistent with Gabriel being the aggressor or with the scenario provided by Boyfriend.

    • LahdidahBaby says:

      Wrong, Mike–the police didn’t decide to arrest GA–Olivier made a “citizen’s arrest of him, and when that happens, the police usually cooperate. Likewise, the emergency order of protection was requested by HB, and in such situations they always grant the order, subject to a subsequent investigation. Pretty much everything that happened to GA was the doing of HB and/or OM, including the Broken rib and head injuries.

  53. Miz Misanthrope says:

    Oldest trick in the trailer park.

    • Liv says:

      Hahaha! 😉

    • WOM says:

      Awesome comment! That made me laugh.

      I think that Aubry was baited into this confrontation yet I have no sympathy for him. This is not to say I now think more of Berry. But I’m beginning to suspect that Nahla is the most mature one in this situation.

  54. Amy says:

    Honestly both men come off looking bad. Halle has been looking bad ever since this custody fight started, dragging Gabriel to court for every single thing, lobbing insults his way and accusing him from being a racist to being a wife beater to being “unstable.” It made her look worse when she petitioned a judge to move to France.

    Olivier is not married to Halle and he is not Nahla’s stepfather (yet). He is the reason Halle asked to move to France in the first place, so I’m not sure why he was present during the hand off of Nahla? He must know how Gabriel felt about Halle asking to move to France. I’m not saying Olivier started the fight but at this point in time he and Gabriel should have as little to do with each other as possible. Obviously Gabriel had about enough at that point and snapped. Which is wrong too. I understand the guy has been through the wringer but both men come off bad.

  55. Julie says:

    It sucks for Gabriel that it happened on Halle’s property. Of course the “witnesses” are going to side with her, they’re on her payroll. I’m waiting for the tapes to come out. I don’t trust TMZ at all, the people that work there all seem like idiots.

  56. KellyinSeattle says:

    I don’t know enough about their dynamic to comment, but I will say the real victims are the pants on Oliver and Halle! I see a do see a Christmas package in his pants, though! Gabriel, drop the cigarette while carrying your little girl. I doubt the Oliver/Halle relationship will last, as it’s based upon negative drama.

  57. Skipper says:

    I suspect that Gabe has probably been pushed way too far with Halle trying to deprive him of his parental rights up to this point; he’s probably had quite enough of her BS. Now, since she lost the Court battle, she obviously orchestrated a situation where Olivier would ‘push’ Gabe’s buttons, knowing they would get a rise out of him, and thus make him look like the bad guy and voila… restraining order against him. That is what she has wanted all along… she lost the ‘move to France’ war, so this was Plan B; clearly she will stop at nothing to remove him completely. What is Plan C? Hitman?? She is completely nuts, an absolutely disgusting woman. I feel so sorry for Nahla. Too bad Gabe didn’t realize he was walking into a set-up… I wish someone had warned him that this would be coming. Didn’t we call it on here after she lost the Court case?? Now he is really screwed. Halle probalby had the paps on standby to record the whole thing. I normally don’t care about celebrities or their business but this is one situation where I feel as though I actually hate that woman; she makes me sick.

    • TG says:

      @Skipper – I agree with you 100%. I was wondering does Gabe not have family of friends or a lawyer he listens to? Surely there is one smart person in his group of trusted advisors who will tell it to him straight? I mean most of us on here have seen what Halle is capable of and we have been on to her and anticipating and even calling her next moves so surely he can’t be that dumb or his family or lawyer? Maybe he surrounds himself with “yes” men. I don’t know.

  58. Starlight says:

    Dear Gabriel, let go. Let her do whatever she wants to do with the daughter you both are fighting for. She will not stop until she gets what she wants. Her boyfriend is being paid to do that exactly. She is punishing you for breaking up with her. Let them move on and try to salvage your career if you still have one. You already ruined it don’t ruin it anymore.

    • UghInsomnia says:

      Why should he let go of his CHILD??

      • Starlight says:

        So he can have self respect and his daughter will have respect for him someday instead of looking like a fool.

    • skuddles says:

      Why on earth should he or would he choose his career over his child? Let go?? Right.

    • Jane says:

      His daughter will not have respect for him for giving up. When she is old enough to understand what has been happening, she will love her father even more for fighting to keep her in his life and not let another man raise her just because it would be easier for him.

      Someone posted here GA was raised in foster homes. I don’t know the details, but maybe he knows exactly what it is like not to have your parents do whatever it takes to keep your child and love and raise that child.

      • Ms Kay says:

        Yes I wrote that comment. Indeed because his mother was trying to raise 9 children (perhaps alone?) and it was hard financially so she chose to put some of her kids in foster homes, and that’s how Aubry was bounced from one foster home to another in Laval…

  59. Common sense says:

    And the Halle bashing continues…
    Didn’t expect anything less.

  60. Hannah says:

    Well, I don’t know them or the full story obv, but ever since their break up I have thought less and less of Halle Berry. I wouldn’t have much doubt that Halle sent Olivier out there to rile up Gabriel. How awful.

    I grew up with separated parents. My mum never said one bad word about my dad. As I grew up I realized for myself he was a douche. I also discovered the things he did to her when she was a young mother. She kept quiet wanting me to have a relationship with my dad even though she wanted nothing to do with him herself and never did again. I have so much respect for her for it.

    Halle appears to be messing up her daughter’s relationship with her father on purpose. One day her daughter will grow up and really dislike her for it.

  61. Grace says:

    Halle thinks it’s cute for two men to be fighting over her but she doesn’t realize that she’s traumatizing her daughter.

    I can believe that Gabriel and Olivier are both bonkers. Sane men don’t date crazy women for this long, much less have kids by them. Like attracts like.

  62. LouLou says:

    Everybody looks bad. The truth is probably that everyone involved here has had their moments of being immature and idiotic so that at this point, the whole thing is such a mess that nobody can even remember who did what wrong first. Whoever said that they are all hot messes is right. Good way to mess up a kid’s mind.

  63. Sugar says:

    nice job Halle-Thanksgiving Day! when most tried to be civil & have a peaceful day with family friend & food & you orchrasteat this in yor hood for others to witness instead of the Macy parade folks are taking a peek out their window to see now whats going on with crazy
    Halle. *eyeroll & slow- very slow clap*
    and I’m not team Gabe because -oh he’s so cute- I’m team Gabe & Nahla because I can relate having been the recipient of the evil games people play during custody issues.

  64. Skipper says:

    Didn’t Halle grow up in a dysfunctional household herself?? Any decent parent would have the sense NOT to repeat their own parents’ mistakes. But I guess that’s hard to do when you’re a bitter narcissicist with mental health problems.

  65. HannahF says:

    Here’s my take as a family law attorney who likes the field but is judicious with my choice of clients.

    1. I probably would not represent Halle Berry

    2. We don’t have all the facts.

    3. Even if Aubry was provoked he could have walked away. Based on the logic, some people have used in this thread–since Halle has been so litigious, it’s okay for Aubry to react–so if he used a gun it would still be okay?

    4. In LA County it is not incredibly difficult to get a temporary restraining order. They only last for 3 weeks and judges error on the side of caution until the next hearing where both sides have had time to prepare their cases. An emergency protective order is harder to get. They are given out when the victim needs protection and they won’t have access to the courts for a few days. To obtain an EPO, the police officers call the designated oncall judge, provide the facts and the judge makes the determination over the phone. A police officer better have a damn good reason to bother a judge after hours.

    5. Only Aubry was charged with a crime.

    • Reggie says:

      We do not have all the facts.

      Radar Online states it was a temporary restraining order issued.

      TMZ is biased towards Halle Berry.

      Only Gabriel was charged since he had no witnesses and he was on enemy turf.

      We don’t know who threw the first punch – all hearsay.

      Team Gabriel!

      • LNG says:

        A ridiculous response to a well-thought out post from HannahF that actually contained very interesting information to give us insight on the situation.

      • Reggie says:

        Not ridiculous at all. Her facts were based off only one report – TMZ.

        Therefore, we don’t know all the facts.

        Still Team Gabriel!

      • HannahF says:

        I did state that we don’t have all the facts.

        Further, not only do I understand media bias, I do this for a living and I see this behavior on a regular basis.

        There is never any justification for violence. Call your attorney and fight it out in court.

  66. Yasmine says:

    I reserve judgement until more evidence comes to the surface. You’ll forgive me if I’m a little suspicious. He goes to drop nahla off, Martinez says something, and then he randomly punches him …..yeeahh, sounds real convincing. Gabriel just won big in this battle,, why would he do something as stupid as hitting Olivier to jeopardize that? Also when you take into account that this happened on halle’s private property, on thanksgiving where the witnesses were family and friends?!! Come on really. I do wonder though, why is it Gabriel is always alone when shit goes down? Doesn’t he have any friends? He needs a team because he is always alone. I pray for his sake and the future of his relationship with nahla that those cameras were really rolling when this went down and that Martinez did strike him first. Also does anybody else find it suspicious that halle and Olivier are always the first to release a statement?

    • Tara says:

      Sounds suspicious to me too… Like Olivier came out to get the first word in on an exchange that had been ongoing. Gabriel’s response, if TMZ and “witnesses” can be believed, bear out that idea for me, in that it indicates a hair trigger mood… Which, even for this volatile guy, doesn’t seem to be the norm. Gabriel should absolutely just have walked away. To me, it looks like he responded exactly as Berry and Martinez hoped he would. As someone wisely noted: oldest trick in the trailer park.

  67. emmie_a says:

    Just curious but did Halle break things off with Gabriel? or was it the other way around? It’s such a toxic situation I’m wondering about their history.

    • lisa2 says:

      funny you say that. Everyone assumes she ended it. I think he may have. I remember that display of her and Jamie Foxx at the SPIKE awards or something. Jamie kissed her and had his hands all up her butt. It was a disgusting display for a woman in a relationship. Soon after they were over. I remember my boyfriend saying that a woman does that when she wants the guy to dump her. I thought she was a bit more classy at the time. It was gross and funny how she has not done that kind of thing again. I think she wanted him to walk. To be the one to leave. And it worked.

    • skuddles says:

      emmie_a, I clearly remember hearing it was Aubry who did the dumping but it wasn’t long before Berry went into PR overdrive and stated it was actually her who ended things. What leads me to believe it was, in fact, Aubry who initiated the split is how vindictive and nasty Berry became towards him (and has remained towards him ever since). Yet not long before they split she had made rather glowing comments about him in an interview – particularly how good of a father he was to their daughter. But after the split she completely changed her tune and accused him of being a racist, abusive jerk and a neglectful father who put Nahla in danger…

      • LAK says:

        i actually have a print copy of the interview where she is saying what an amazing father and human being GA is. what can i say, i love Vogue magazine. It was the September issue 2010.

      • skuddles says:

        Thanks LAK! I couldn’t remember the exact where and when of the interview so I really appreciate you providing details 🙂

      • valleymiss says:

        It seems to me that the Halle/Gabiel breakup was going ok until Gabe went out with. Kim Kardashian on that super public date to the Laker game. After that, Halle went nuts.

      • Liv says:

        @LAK 😉

        I wonder what Halle would have said if she’d dropped Nahla off at Aubry’s house and Kim Kardashian had approached her to just let things go.

        Just imagine.

  68. lucy2 says:

    Olivier should not be involved – not his kid, not his step-kid. He needs to stay out of it. But if Gabriel really did hit him, it was incredibly dumb of him to take the first swing.

    I agree there’s probably a lot more to this. It’s just so sad for Nahla. Halle and Gabriel chose to have a child together, they need to work it out somehow and make it work for all 3 of them.

  69. lisa2 says:

    There appears to be a tape of the incident. So we at some point will see it.

    regarding this event.. sad to say money does not change things. this kind of crap happens all over in many households, irregardless of the money people make. Gabriel is not a smart man. He has the public pretty much on his side in this case. More for me that Halle is keeping or trying to cut him out of the child’s live and replace Olivier as the “father”. That happens a lot people. I have suspected that is the driving force of this all. Halle won’t be having another child, Olivier doesn’t have kids. So she is giving him her and Gabriel’s daughter. Olivier is not the father, so he really should stay out of it. Being engaged to Halle does not make you the child’s father. I will say other couples handle these things in a mature way. Sad that these people are all acting trashy.

  70. dread pirate cuervo says:

    That Dr. Oz looking mofo shouldn’t get involved in the custody dispute. I think my husband’s first wife is a crazy bitch & feel she’s generally a shitty parent, but it’s not my place to call her out on it. In the end, they’re not my kids & the best thing I can do is make sure our home is a happy & welcoming place for them. Parenting issues are between the parents only.

  71. RdyfrmycloseupmrDvlle says:

    For all of those people on here saying Aubry “has anger issues.”
    Aubry has had a long successful career in the modeling industry and never, ever has he had a reputation for having “anger issues.”
    Halle was with him for a long time….never a wiff of “anger issues.”
    When Halle bagan her campainge to smear and tarnish Aubrys glowing reputation those who knew him said he never so much as ever had a jay walking ticket. It wasnt until Hallee dragged him in and out of court aggressively pushing her “Aubry is violent” schtick that people started whispering that Aubry is violent. Give me a break.
    And those on here saying that women dont set up men….total and utter BS. There are some women in the world that get off on pushing there mans buttns until they break, then call the cops and get them thrown in jail. There are those women in the world that are masters at setting their spouses to get rid of them so they can have their children to themselves. Most men just give up and walk away defeated. I sincerely hope Gabriel doesnt walk away.

  72. MrsBPitt says:

    Nahla is going to be the most screwed up celebrity child of all…I’m not wishing this on her by any means…but how can this stuff not have an impact…wait for her teen years…it won’t be pretty!!!!

  73. Loulou says:

    This IMO was entirely orchestrated and its so patronizing of the Berry camp to think people will buy the story because only she has the witnesses, because she called the media, because her lawyer instructed Martinez on what to do once he got Gabriel where he wanted him… Olivier Martinez actually makes Christophe Rocancourt look like an amateur and a choir boy. It’s sad of them to throw their (questionable) acting talent on such a pathetic production.

  74. jante says:

    I’m sorry to say but Oliver is the instigator who initiated the trouble. He had no business going up to Gabriel while doing a child hand-off. The child is not Oliver’s and he has no business getting involved. I can totally see Halle being egging Oliver on. I feel bad for Gabriel because you can tell that he loves his daughter.

  75. Nev says:

    why did they split in the first place?

  76. Madison says:

    GA should have done the smart thing and walked away and not allowed himself to be provoked. He should have thought of his daughter, now Halle and her french gigolo have enough ammo on him to stop him from seeing Nahla. I think Halle will use this incident to go back to court to keep Nahla away from her ‘violent’ father.

  77. Paige says:

    So two men get into a fight and it’s Hallies fault? Really?! The Hallie hate on here is out of control.And no I’m not a Hallie fan or defend her actions. But come on people just because you hate her don’t blame her for every little thing that goes wrong. GA got ticked off at a simple statement and went off. Got his butt kicked and went the hospital. Yes Hallie took time out of her day to plot a bitch fight between two men. Ok.

    • bluhare says:

      I don’t hate her. I do think she’s a few planks short of a load, though. I also think that there aren’t many angles she doesn’t measure.

    • lena80 says:

      Thank you Paige, it seems Halle has magical vagina powers that drive men crazy. These are two grown a** men. I personally don’t care if Olivier SAID anything, Gabe is a FATHER, and should know better to use his hands to make a point with a former boxer with his daughter near. He won the last case for God’s sake…why screw that up with a d*ck measuring contest?

    • TG says:

      We hate on her because there is about 3 years of custody issues showing her machinations and then when the custody dispute started beginning with the fact that Gabe had to prove he was the father and get his name added to the birth certificate a lot of us, definitely me, started looking at her past and realizing that she has been playing this game ever since she came to Hollywood. She is ALWAYS the victim yet she managed to hat not one but 2 hit and runs and in one of the incidents she claims “amnesia”. Please. She also claimed that her daughter is black because she is her mom and she is black completely forgetting that Gabe is the father and therefore responsbile for 50% of the DNA contribution. Also, it is up to her daughter to decide who she is in life and if she wants to identify with a certain race. Everything is about Halle and not her daughter. My daughter is of mixed race and I leave it to her to be who she wants to me. Of course he is the one who is racist though, which she also tried to claim. I could go on an on. We hate on her because it is so obvious of what she is doing. What decent parent would try to move out of the country just because they met a new guy? Olivier is all part of the plan and if you don’t think so then you either haven’t read up on her or are really gullible.

      • nikko says:

        First and foremost, white america will view the child as black. It was determine years and years ago, if there is one drop of black in a person that person will be consider black. Regardless of what the child/person chooses to be, it’s best for that child/person be aware that they will be viewed as a black person (especially if the mother is). So yes, Halle is letting her daughter know that she is considered black (by the standards of white america)

      • Miss M says:

        Halle’s mother is white, isn’t she? I wonder what she thinks about Halle’s opinions and behavior.

      • lena80 says:

        Thank you Nikko, people tend to overlook 400 years of slavery, jim crow laws, institutionalized racism, etc.. when it comes to Halle’s view on race that have been the norm for centuries. We can fault Halle for a lot of things, but not that. Should she educate herself more on the matter? Sure, but let’s not blame the product (her beliefs on racial identification) when they stem from the institution of racism which she didn’t create.

      • lena80 says:

        @ Miss M., Halle has stated in a few interviews that her mother told her America will see, and more importantly, treat her like she is black so she should identify as such. I think some people forget that Halle and her mom’s views on racial identification stemmed from slavery, Jim Crow, etc.

  78. Starlight says:

    He kept falling to the trap and people are losing respect for him.

  79. Jaded says:

    Left to his own devices without all the Halle bitterness and drama, I think Gabriel is an excellent dad and would continue to be if Halle wasn’t gunning to ruin him. She knows his weak spots and hot buttons, and I have no doubt that she was instrumental in providing Olivier with enough incentive to instigate this fight.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think Gabriel is the sharpest knife in the drawer and lets himself get drawn into these sham confrontations. He’s been fighting this battle for too long and has been publicly shamed and humiliated by Halle to the point where his fuse is pretty well always lit. He’d better learn to not go for the bait if he wants to keep seeing Nahla.

  80. UghInsomnia says:

    Just saying, I would bare-knuckle box a bear for my kids any day of the week. I’m not a violent person. It doesn’t make sense that the one with offensive injuries wasn’t arrested as well.

  81. Jude says:

    it’s funny how Gabe is “violent” but having your daughter watch your new boyfriend beat up her father is completely fine.
    I hope Gabe uses that against Halle; she’s dating someone violent right now and his daughter shouldn’t be around that.

    And I read somewhere they went out to thanksgiving dinner at a friends house right after all this occurred, as if nothing happened.

  82. lisa2 says:

    I don’t think Halle had to egg OM on or whatever. Olivier is the man in her life. and right or wrong (I SAY WRONG) he thinks of himself as Halle’s protector. I’m sure Halle talks about her upset over Gabriel and him with the child. But I don’t think she wanted this to happen. It could have turned out with someone being killed and not just taken to the hospital for minor injuries. Things like this can get out of hand fast. You see this all the time.

  83. valleymiss says:

    I have to admit that I cracked a smile when some TMZ commenter wrote, “Olivier is lucky that Gabe didn’t have a snowglobe nearby.” Lol!

  84. Norm says:

    I wonder how Nahla will feel when she grows up and finds out her mother’s boyfriend beat the shit out of her dad. I don’t see this ending well. I think Olivier or whatever his name is , is an asshole.

    • TG says:

      I actually think her daughter will grow up to be just like her, unless Gabriel is allowed in her life. I figure Halle does all she can to let Nalha know that Gabe is bad and Olivier is good. I figure Halle’s mom raised her to be a victim, she probably spent the entire time runnng down Halle’s dad and men in general. Halle had to have gotten this from someone. I would like to know the real story on her dad abandoning her. At this point I don’t quite believe it, but it might be true, just had to believe the girl who cries wolf all the time and gets convenient amnesia after a hit-and-run.

  85. HannahF says:

    I’m team kid in every family case. The adults make their choices and the kids get dragged along for the ride–good or bad.

    We need more facts. TMZ is usually Team Halle and ROL is Team Aubry–so we need to consider the biases of our sources. But, for the person above in the thread who insisted that Halle got a TRO because ROL said so—Umm. No. La County Superior Court has been dark since Weds at 4:30 pm and will be dark until 8:30 am on Monday. No court=no TRO. She got an emergency protective order which is good for 5 days.

  86. jwoolman says:

    The first thing I noticed yesterday was that Olivier’s injuries are what you get when you’re the assaulter, while Gabriel’s injuries are what you get when somebody is beating on you. I immediately wondered if Gabriel was jumped by Olivier for other reasons also – it really makes no sense for Gabriel to be the aggressor but it makes a lot of sense for Halle and Olivier to want to frame him. Both Halle and Boyfriend are infuriated about the judge’s ruling, while Gabriel had every reason to be happy about it. If Gabriel is asking for the security video, that’s very good evidence that he was only trying unsuccessfully to defend himself against a physical attack by a trained boxer. Gabriel obviously was in no condition to make a citizen’s arrest or make charges against Olivier simply because he was probably unconscious and definitely broken, bleeding, and in pain. The judge’s temporary restraining order was based on what Halle claimed, which is not necessarily the truth. She’s made claims about Gabriel before that the court decided were not reliable. Remember the odd encounter with a pap that she obviously staged, getting her enraged mama act on video when she was trying to convince the court she had to move the kid to France because of paps? The woman really does believe she’s entitled to do anything to push Gabriel out of his daughter’s life.

    If Halle and Boyfriend were on the up and up. Olivier certainly would not have approached Gabriel at all. Protocol in such custody dispute situations is supposed to be no boyfriends even present during such handovers. If Olivier had something to say to Gabriel, he should have done it elsewhere and certainly not in front if the child.

  87. Shy says:

    Well… None of us was there. We have no idea what is happening. We only know what Halle (or her team) told TMZ and other tabloids about “Saint Oliver was attacked by bad-bad Gabriel”…

    But we all know history and that Halle is crazy bitch that will stop at nothing. So… I’m sure even if Gabriel gave first shot – he was pushed by those crazies. Imagine how hard it should be that Gabriel would lose it.

    I really hope that he was recording all his conversations with Halle. I hope we will hear it soon. Remember how he told he has something on her? It’s time Gabriel… Show it. She will stop at nothing to get her daughter at her sole custody. He seriously should fire for sole custody by himself. Mother obviously cares only about her own needs. And doesn’t give a crap that she wants to take the father from her daughter. And Gabriel’s lawyers should fire restraining order for Oliver. So that he would not be able to come close to Nahla.

    Isn’t this funny how lover of her mother beat her father in front of her eyes. And then father is the one who can’t see his daughter. While this strange man that will eventually vanish from her life when Halle will dump him – still can see her… Halle is crazy. And Gabriel should finally file for sole custody. And demand from judge for Halle to go throw psychiatrist tests.

    Remember how they took away kids from Sharon Stone and Kelly Rutherford? Judge didn’t care that Sharon was big star. He still took away her son and gave him to father.

  88. HannahF says:

    It’s kind of interesting that here and on Dlisted the Halle story has about 3 times as many comments as any other story.

    Two weeks ago a client called me from outside the kid’s school because Dad had also shown up, it was not Dad’s day for visitation, and he had a history of domestic violence. As soon as Dad realized Mom had called her attorney, he jumped on the phone to call his attorney. Cooler heads prevailed and the situation was resolved before school let out. Granted , we had to go to court over the issue but kid and her classmates didn’t have to see her parents having a huge argument.

    Aubry should have called his lawyer. Violence is never the answer.

  89. Maris says:

    I’m with Gabriel Aubry. Both Halle & Olivier are one pair of nutjobs.
    I’d bet money this was on purpose so Aubry loses his case

  90. Mandy says:

    It really is a shame when two grown adults, well three in this case, cannot put their differences aside for the sake of a child. Selfish a$$holes.

    • HannahF says:

      Exactly! Vindictiveness, control/power, money. Messy divorces/custody battles typically have at least one of these factors present.

  91. says:

    All these people are crazy. But damn, that Gabriel Aubrey is one fine looking man. I’d hit it, crazy and all.

  92. This is life folks says:

    Imagine the feeling for Aubrey to drop off his child with her and her lover. Must have made him sick and on edge. Anyone would be, but of course, one has to contain their rage… but can’t really blame him for exploding. I think the Olivier should dump Halle and the two guys should have a bromance. She should stay single for 2 years and take care of her daughter.

  93. nikko says:

    Maybe Gab isn’t as good as everyone thinks. Just because he looks calm, cool and collected in his pictures, who’s to say how he is in person, so everyone shouldn’t be so quick to blame Halle and Olivier. Something has to be going on w/ Gab that the public doesn’t know.

  94. Oyn says:

    Witnesses are saying that Olivier has been drunk for past few days.
    Anycrazy….looks like yet another set up to everyone with a brain and a memory of the last three years. He was probably coached on how to do a citizen’s arrest.

  95. nikko says:

    I totally agree with this quote
    “Aubrey, has no proper job, he went through the courts to force Halle to pay him 20,000 Dollars a month for child custody, but although they have joint custody, the child does not live with him. Only reason he is holding on tight to the child is because of the money.Gabriel is just a gold digger. Good thing Martinez whopped his ass.”

    • themummy says:

      Yes, that makes sense. There is zero chance he loves his daughter. He got into a relationship with Halle Berry so he could get her pregnant and take her cash. When the baby was born he pretended to love and raise her. Then he initiated a nasty split and did a victory dance because his plan over those 5-6 years worked! He gets some money every month and a nice dose of nastiness and burden in the form of a never ending custody battle..just for some cash. At no point did he ever love his daughter or want to be part of her life.

      I hope you realize how ridiculous that sounds.

  96. TG says:

    @nikko – That is not how Halle stated it in her interview. I think her comments were stated to claim possession of her child and to erase Gabe from the child’s DNA. Also, Nahla is her own person and she has the right to choose how she identifies herself. I also disagree with you about White America. I am white and while I always knew Halle had an African American father and a white mother I never once thought twice about what race she was. I only realized she considered herself black when she gave her Oscar speech in that godawful dress (IMO). I guess I have lived in a more enlightened area for too long because I don’t know anyone who insists that someone is black because they have “one drop of black blood” in them. I mean I think of the President as mixed even if he considers himself black. I don’t have a problem with that either. I voted for him twice and would do it again no matter what color he was.

  97. TG says:

    Oh my gosh. Just thought of something. Don’t know why it wasn’t obvious from the beginning. We all know she has no intention of marrying Olivier, unless she is forced to in order to get Nahla away from Gabriel. We all also know that this relationship was a set up from the beginning, at least I think it is, strictly business with Olivier. Anyway, to get to my point, now that she can’t take her daughter to France, I was wondering how she was going to dump Olivier and figured she would end up the victim in this too. Isn’t he running around drinking all over the place? Didn’t he just show up a liquor store at 7 am this morning? Now she has a perfect story for her next round of interviews. Oliver was violent and a drunk around her daughter so she had to ditch him.

    • Liv says:

      You know, I wondered why Aubry was arrested and is not allowed to be near his child and Martinez continues to live with them. I mean look at Aubry – Martinez was the one who punched him, not vice versa.

  98. jennahaus says:

    Ok, this is so wrong…but i would have loved to have a translator, a bowl of popcorn and a lawn chair to see this fight. (minus Nahla and Halle, of course.)

    What it seems like to me from my limited information, is that OM and GA started arguing in french and once HB saw that it was getting loud, she took Nahla into the house so Nahla saw none of it. My guess is that Halle did not either since she was most likely keeping Nahla occupied. Her staff and whoever family members were there, most likely did see it and that’s who reported the info. Im not Team Halle or Team Gabriel but all of this is a pretty messed up situation for ALL involved.

    I bet the insults were even juicier in french! some words just dont translate as well into English.

  99. mayjune says:

    I just want to know how Halle could have instigated it if she does not speak French? She does not know what was really said only what OM told her he said. If you recall, when she was still in a relationship with GA and was buying a house in Canada, she said she planned to learn it but never did. Even if she was attempting to do so b/c of OM, it would stand to reason that her french would be very limited. Another point, i see some posts that GA was so injured he couldnt speak for himself. The police would not have transported him to the local jail if he was still so injured…the rule is that the injured party (guilty or not) stays in the hospital under police supervision until such time he or she is deemed well enough to go through the booking/arrest process. Anyone remember the NY nanny? notice they took her statement and charged her while she was in a hospital bed..since she was too injured (by her own hand) to be moved to a jail. Interesting thing…tmz does not yet have the booking photo for GA…usually they are the first to post it right away.

    • emmie_a says:

      I’m not too sure about the point of your post but check out the timeline on TMZ. Gabriel was at the hospital for quite a few hours before he was transported to jail. He was obviously in need of medical attention. TMZ has also posted pics of his injury – His eye looks horrible.

  100. Nina W says:

    As a child of a domestic violence situation I am disgusted by all the posts excusing Gabriel’s behavior. These two men both behaved badly regardless of provocation they should not have resorted to violence especially in the presence of an impressionable child. I realize people really dislike Halle but that does not excuse Gabriel at all. No matter what she did these two men both ended up in the hospital because they chose to get violent and that is stupid and unacceptable behavior.

    • emmie_a says:

      I didn’t read every single post in-depth but I don’t get the feeling that posters are excusing Gabriel’s behavior. A lot of people have noted that what he did was stupid, that he should have called his lawyer, that he should have walked away. Maybe they sympathize with his custody situation and everything leading up to this but I don’t get the feeling that they are making excuses for his actions.

    • TG says:

      Halle is just as guilty as the men in this situation. You don’t have to physically hit someone to be the aggressor. Halle knows that. She orchestrated this and in my opinion that makes her the worst offender. Her kind of crazy is scarier and far worse than throwing a few punches.

    • DreamyK says:

      @Nina..have you ever met a woman who was willing to do anything to cut the father or her child out the child’s life? I have. It is beyond disturbing. I’m not excusing GA’s behavior. But I will say that given all the manipulation, time, money and high levels of stress she has visited on GA that it is no shock that he eventually exploded. I absolutely hold Halle accountable for this circus. If she really and truly loved her child, she would be doing her utmost to make it work. That whole family is supposed to be in counseling. If Oliver is not included in that Order, he needs to be now.

      Halle has a security guy carrying a gun to protect her now. Really Halle? God she’s insufferable. What a douche.

      • emmie_a says:

        Daily Mail has a story about Halle and Nahla getting a police escort yesterday to a concert. I seriously hope the Daily Mail is wrong (as is the norm for them!) and Halle did not request a police escort – that almost seems laughable, right?

  101. oivey says:

    Nahla needs to be taken away from all three of them. Send her to a grandparents or an auntie or uncle. A child needs a loving stable environment, regardless of if its a single parent, a grandparent, a foster parent etc. These three adults should be ashamed of their own behaviour. Disgusting.

    • TG says:

      Hope they don’t send the girl to Halle’s mother. I think that is where halle learned all this behavior from. I suspect it is mommy dearest.

      • LAK says:

        i was going to agree with you 100%, but then i got to thinking about Halle’s siblings. Do we know anything about them??

        several thoughts occurred to me as i was typing this out:

        1. i seem to recall some background on one of the siblings, but i can’t remember. Does anyone?

        2. Sometimes, especially when a person is the STAR of the family, their terrible characteristics are allowed to slide with no checks whilst rest of family is brought up ‘normal’ on the grounds that they are either more ‘special’ or more ‘sensitive’ than the other kids.

        3. Or they soon move out of the family home at an early because no one there ‘gets’ them or to further their ambitions so again, no checks and balances.

        4. Halle’s mother passed on these same attititudes to Halle and the other siblings and so the cycle continues, and the other siblings are just as screwed up.

        5. I see GA’s fight to remain in his daughter’s life as a reaction against his abandonment as a child to be raised in foster homes. Essentially he is trying to break a cycle, but Halle is merely continuing what was handed down to her.

      • oivey says:

        Doesn’t have to be her mother. What about his mother, or siblings. Anyone. The current environment this child is in is toxic.

        And yes, I am in a similar situation so I am taking this a little personally.

      • Liv says:

        I read somewhere that she has a sister or halfsister, but they do not have contact and are on bad terms. I’m not 100% sure though.

  102. mm says:

    “No matter what she did these two men both ended up in the hospital because they chose to get violent and that is stupid and unacceptable behavior.”

    We still don’t know if Gabriel was just defending himself, he has the worst injuries.

    Judging from the injuries it was likely Olivier who punched Gabriel, got him on the ground, and kicked him (cracked ribs, head injuries).

    Also, Olivier is known for violent behaviour, not Gabriel.

  103. aang says:

    neutral 3rd party transfer in a public place. should be in every custody agreement.

  104. Cookie says:

    From an outsider’s perspective, it sure looks like Halle wants to eradicate Gabriel from his daughter’s life. He appears to be a loving father who happened to have a child with a control freak egomaniac.

  105. Ms. Candy says:

    I’ve scanned through the comments and just smh…
    How do we know what is going behind close doors with these 3 adults?
    Put aside what the gossip sites are saying can we really say for sure that GA is innocent? Can we really say Oli is just as crazy as Halle??
    Isn’t GA not only getting HB money on a monthly basis but he also gets to keep their daughter here in the states…
    Someone mention that GA modelling career is over well shoot don’t this man get around 20k a month from HB (correct me if I’m wrong) it looks like GA is sitting pretty.
    I’m only on Nahla side cause you can’t be basing everything that has been reported! Something happened even after the judge render his decision.. Something may have happened or something was said when they were hanging out together the other day or over the phone… We really don’t know what lead up to this and this poor baby girl is caught in the middle….
    I feel sorry for Nahla cause she really need someone to step up to Enough is Enough! Move the F*** On

    • emmie_a says:

      You comment that we don’t know the whole story. But then you comment that Gabriel is “sitting pretty” due to the child support payments he gets from Halle. How is that true? From my outsider point of view, it seems like he has gone through hell in order to be a father to his child. And this situation ensures that the saga will continue. It’s not a healthy situation and it’s not going to be one in the future. When your rights to father your child are in a constant state of chaos, you are not sitting pretty.

      • Ms. Candy says:

        Emmie he is getting paid, I hope u know that 🙂 he didn’t walk away with nothing and those court documents can be found online… That is why I say he is sitting pretty, basically don’t need the modelling job since HB is taking care of him financially that can be proven with court docs everything else in this circus ring is all hearsay both camps are throwing jabs and now Oli in the mix…

        We really don’t know what is going on btw them adults behind closed doors

      • themummy says:

        Rational comment is rational. I like it.

      • emmie_a says:

        Ms Candy: I know he is receiving child support. You missed the point of my comment. IMO you cannot say Gabriel is “sitting pretty” when he has to put up with so much crap in order to father his child, which is his right. Money isn’t everything in this situation.

      • Kate (newer one) says:

        He’s not getting enough to cover the legal bills. That simple. The firepower she has legally, he will have to match to have a hope in hell of seeing his child, and he will also have to turn down bookings to make court dates.

        An average Joe fighting a bitterly contested child custody case spends many tens of thousands a year, with one eye on costs. This war will be costing hundreds of thousands, because top-notch lawyers charge over a thousand dollars per billable hour. And everything – phone calls, thinking time, research – is a billable hour. She is paying a lot less than the bills she is racking up for the both of them will be costing, and given she is losing at every stage of the game, yes, I can be sure that her claims are baseless and that he has a good enough relationship with his child that his removal from her life would profoundly damage her, because that’s what the courts keep deciding, and they are basing their views on evidence from all parties – not TMZ/Radar Online.

        It would be a damn sight cheaper and less traumatic to walk away when an ex is making access to a child this hard. But when a parent loves their kid, that isn’t a possibility for them. What Berry is doing is wicked, because she is trying to take her little girl’s father from her. No excuse exists for that unless there is real domestic violence at stake – which she has never, in fact, claimed over him. So what exactly is your point? My view is not based on media reports. It’s based on contested and thought-through court decisions. And those court decisions are always siding with Aubrey, and against Berry.

    • TG says:

      I think Gabe only filed for child support last year, I think, and I bet that was a result of Halle’s continual harrassment of his rights as a father so he is fighting back in whatever way he can. Both of them are messed up and selfish but I think she is the worst offender since she has continually tried to erase Gabe from Nahla’s life.

  106. Ms. Candy says:

    I’ve scanned through some comments to smh at some and others in agreement with…
    How do we know what is going behind close doors with these 3 adults?
    Put aside what the gossip sites are saying can we really say for sure that GA is innocent? Can we really say Oli is just as crazy as Halle??
    Isn’t GA not only getting HB money on a monthly basis but he also gets to keep their daughter here in the states…
    Someone mention that GA modelling career is over well shoot don’t this man get around 20k a month from HB (correct me if I’m wrong) it looks like GA is sitting pretty.
    I’m only on Nahla side cause you can’t be basing everything that has been reported! Something happened even after the judge render his decision.. Something may have happened or something was said when they were hanging out together the other day or over the phone… We really don’t know what lead up to this and this poor baby girl is caught in the middle….
    I feel sorry for Nahla cause she really need someone to step up to say Enough is Enough! Move the F*** On

    Sorry if this double post

  107. handsome man saved me from the monsters says:

    At least now with Olivier, Halle has actually got a violent drunk in her life. I hope he will be her karma. Berry who cried wolf

    • lena80 says:

      There is something wrong with you if you think it is appropriate or even want a man to get violent with ANY woman. I wouldn’t wish “karma” like that on anyone. Your mindset is disgusting.

  108. loop says:

    1) it definitely happens around the holidays
    2) kinda hot: 2 gorgeous men fighting, trash-talking in french
    3) Can Olivier make a citizen arrest if he’s not a citizen?

  109. Ms. Candy says:

    Emmie he is getting paid, I hope u know that 🙂 he didn’t walk away with nothing and those court documents can be found online… That is why I say he is sitting pretty, basically don’t need the modelling job since HB is taking care of him financially that can be proven with court docs everything else in this circus ring is all hearsay both camps are throwing jabs and now Oli in the mix…

    We really don’t know what is going on btw them adults behind closed doors

    I’m team Nahla 😉

    Man if this post excessively sorry the site keeps saying something wrong

    • LAK says:

      Child support by court order. She didn’t exactly volunteer the money.

      I live in Europe, so i don’t get the child support by right business, but apparently in USA it is standard and the norm. The sum is decided by the court NOT by the applicants.

      The richer partner pays the poor partner. Something about keeping the child in equal living conditions in both households.


      We have no way of knowing whether he is using the money for day to day expenses or putting it into a trustfund for the child or it”s daddy support.

      So from that perspective, i don’t judge.

    • TG says:

      So is every woman who receives child support getting paid also?

    • Kate (newer one) says:

      The child support won’t even touch the sides of the legal expenses she is forcing Aubrey into. He’d be bankrupted and/or have to walk away from his child had he not sought that money, I suspect.

      I do think your perspective changes if you see women who try to remove the father as Berry is doing. They’re as bad as dead-beat child abandoners, to my mind. Both abuse the little people they are meant to be raising.

  110. themummy says:

    Set up!! I knew Halle couldn’t handle being told “no” about her move to France.

    Team Gabriel 15000000%.

  111. Feebee says:

    What a mess.

    Firstly IMO Martinez had no business or cause to approach Aubry let alone get in his face about ‘moving on’ or whatever he said in English or French. If Berry does not have the emotional stability to meet Aubry to get Nahla then a neutral 3rd party should be employed.

    Secondly I have heard in other cases that just because one guy starts it with a shove or a punch, it doesn’t give the other guy a free pass to punch the living daylights out of him. Sadly if it wasn’t “Hollywood” this might actually apply and you’d find Martinez charged in addition to Aubry because he has the knowledge to inflict serious injury.

    While I don’t generally condone violence it’s easy for those on the sidelines to suggest Aubry should have walked away. If he was a woman emotionally abused by her husband for years and one day took a knife to him he would have more sympathy. He’d have battered wife/spouse syndrome to help his cause. However he’s just a dude who may or may not have short temper who’s been pushed to the brink and then gets the ‘boyfriend’ trying to make nice (?) with all the sincerity and tact of that raccoon you’re about to interrupt in your bin when you’re taking out the trash.

    He hasn’t made his legal case any easier even if he gets vindicated. And FTR for those few who think any support for Aubry is looks based, the players in this story long ago lost their veneers.

    • Liv says:

      I agree so much. Violence is wrong, but I believe they trapped him and I really hope it doesn’t have aftermaths for him.

    • Mazunte says:

      I agree. I don’t have any opinion on this story other than that if Gabriel truly loves that girl, it is terrible to take her away from him, and that it is unfair to blame Halle for the guy’s fight.

      Gabriel was really stupid by punching Olivier, but it is perfectly understandable that after a lot of emotional turmoil, he just lost his mind.

      Besides, I lived in France for a few years, so I know how good French are at getting on someone’s nerves. And, French are also good at harsh and low insults. So, violence is not acceptable, but sometimes, it can be understandable… when it only involves males.

  112. LahdidahBaby says:

    I find it interesting that just shortly before she became involved with Olivier, Halle took Gabriel along on location with her (to Africa, I think, or maybe the Arctic–I just remember it was some fairly remote location), so that Gabriel could be the child’s caretaker while she was busy filming for a month or two. What made Gabriel suddenly the violent, unstable creep she now paints him to be? No one else in his life has ever made such accusations against him. It seems to me he simply became an inconvenience to Halle once she was with the hot-tempered Olivier, who probably did not appreciate having a handsome male model so intimately involved with his girlfriend’s life. And it appears that for two years now, Halle and Olivier have done their best to effectively erase him from their lives and Nahla’s.

    • TG says:

      According to the media (i.e. gossips sites) Halle was forced by the court or thru mediation to take Gabriel to South Africa and provide a house for him. If I am correct he tried to stop her from taking Nahla with her, which I can understand. Why should she get to take THEIR daughter everywhere she goes? Does Gabe get to do that? HECK NO. I think it is only fair. I mean why should Gabe have to pay to see his daughter all the way around the world? If one parent wants to take the child with them for work purposes for an extended period of time the other parent shouldn’t have to suffer for that.

      • LadidahBaby says:

        Ah yes, South Africa–that’s right–thanks for clearing that up and refreshing me on the deets, TG. I’d forgotten how that came about–it figures it was Halle disregarding Gabriel’s wish not to be separated so long from his daughter and Halle’s desire to disregard his wishes as completely as she disregards his humanity. I agree with you all the way, btw.

    • jwoolman says:

      Since Halle’s been with Martinez for two years and it only took me a couple of seconds to pull up interviews where he talks about his childhood dream of becoming a boxer like his dad and matches he fought before becoming an actor – this makes it a tad unlikely that Aubrey was unaware of Martinez’ professional level fighting skills. So a model who relies on his face is going to start a fight with a boxer? When he’s sober? Which I assume he was since he was with his daughter early in the morning and I also assume he was driving.

  113. G says:

    Why is it that Halle ends up accusing EVERY man she’s ever involved with of physical violence? There’s a pattern here.

    I’m not in anyway condoning violence. Just and observation….

    • Hypocricy says:

      And why are those supposedly SANER men living with her for YEARS, even having children with her or raising children with her if she is THAT supposedly crazy ???

      I also see a pattern there. Either she is crazy and unable to live with a man for that much period of time, either they are BOTH dysfunctional and find their balance and their own interest in that type of relationship…i tend to feel it’s the latter.

      Both Halle and the man she is involved with at each period of her life have serious problems, including Gabriel who lived with her 5 years and was ready to have a child with her 3 years after they got involved…apparently he didn’t have a problem with a craziness then, so he is responsible too or as dysfunctional as she is to deliberatly decide to have his first child with a supposedly unbalanced woman when he could have chose easily another one…and personally i always thought that if she wasn’t Halle Berry but a nobody, he would have passed his way. Never thought they were that in love to begin with, Halle wanting more of a sperm donor and him being somewhat proud to get involved with a star.

      They are both at fault and entered that relationship for the wrong reasons. I have zero respect for the BOTH of them.

      • kimcheee says:

        Women who date abusive men keep dating abusive men unless they do some major house-cleaning psychologically. It’s predictable. I bet the French one will be abusive too.

  114. Sandra says:

    This is a Set up, martinez is a former boxer and an actor, gabriel has broken rib and head injury, makes no sense if Martinez just pinned him down, looks like Gabriel has serous injuries and Martinez superficial injuries, it was probably her lawyer idea for her appeal to move to france
    This is very low, I thought berry could not go any lower, and she proved me wrong.
    I wouldn’t put it past her if she hired hitman next to get rid of Aubrey.

    • Ruyana says:

      I do believe it was a setup. Next I expect them to “lose” the security cam tape that shows the fight.

      She’s accused Gabriel of every foul thing she could think of, one after another. She (they) have used the courts to constantly harass him. They work him up to a constant state of tension and apprehension and then Oliver (the squinty-eyed little weasel) applies a match to the powder keg he and Halle created. The result was predictable. Halle should marry him and move to France leaving Nahla with her daddy who clearly loves her.

    • TG says:

      She didn’t suprise me at how low she will go. I also, wouldn’t put it past her to get rid of him in whatever way possible. I mean look what just happened. They were fighting outside on concrete, I assume and one hit of the head and Gabriel could have been dead. I wouldn’t put anything past this woman. I don’t think either one will stop until one of them is dead.

  115. diana says:

    What’s wrong with Olivier’s pants? They make him look even shorter and stodgy!

  116. Lulu says:

    Who would be stupid enough to try and set up a fight with security cameras rolling? I think all three adults are hot-heads and none of them were thinking clearly. Who knows what was said, but Olivier should NOT have been outside during the exchange, and should certainly NOT have approached Gabriel.

    My take? No one planned for it to go down this way, but yeah, they were hoping to needle GA because that’s all they’ve got left since Halle lost her bid to take Nahla away from him. Too bad GA had to take the bait.

    • jwoolman says:

      If I had surveillance cameras around my property and anything happened, I would be handing a copy to the police and inviting them to watch it on the spot. But the TMZ stories did not even mention it, and since obviously their main source was Mom & Boyfriend – that suggests to me that M&B did not mention it to the police or TMZ.. Honestly, they were posting pics of Boyfriend’s hands, imagine how excited TMZ would have been to be offered a video. But Aubrey apparently did think about the surveillance cameras and said it would prove he did not start the fight (which would be consistent with his injuries). The one who is eager for the police to see the video zooms upward in credibility for me. Possibly M&B didn’t think about it at the time (although it smells of setup, the exact scenario may have been more spur of the moment), but if it turns out there is no video for such a vulnerable spot – that would be a very odd coincidence for me.

      My suspicion is that Boyfriend’s story is backwards: he said he was on the ground defending himself against Aubrey, but that doesn’t match the injury pattern and so more likely Aubrey was on the ground. Boyfriend also says he said something about needing to move on to Aubrey and then Aubrey started swinging. Maybe that’s backwards, too – maybe Boyfriend got angry at Aubrey’s response and went on the attack. Time will tell, I suppose, especially if a video can be extracted.

      I hope the court is wise enough to hold that little girl’s passport… If forensics and/or video contradict Mom&Boyfriend’s story, there will be multiple problems in their future. Boyfriend is having an expired visa problem and Mom has to explain to family court why she’s letting such a violent man live with her daughter, since regardless of how it started – it’s clear that Boyfriend’s response went way beyond any possible need for defense. He really wanted to hurt the guy. In California, the court generally investigates not only the parents but also anybody routinely around the child like Boyfriend. An evaluation or re-evaluation seems reasonable.

  117. PinkG says:

    Wow. Just did a quick search on Google images for Olivier. He really lost his hotness.

  118. Sam x says:

    I think all three are at fault here. Gabriel took the bait and got into a fight in front of his kid. Oliver should have stayed out of it and left it to Nahla’s parents to carry out the exchange. Halle continuously using anything and everything to push her kid’s father out of her life.*sigh* no one thinks of Nahla! Just because Halle grew up without a dad, doesn’t mean Nahla shouldn’t. Take away the celebrity aspect, who knows what anyone of us would have done if were in that situation. it’s easy to say with a clear head we would do this that, in reality we could end up doing something stupid that you would end up regretting it. x

  119. Sam x says:

    I think all three are at fault here. Gabriel took the bait and got into a fight in front of his kid. Oliver should have stayed out of it and left it to Nahla’s parents to carry out the exchange. Halle continuously using anything and everything to push her kid’s father out of her life.*sigh* no one thinks of Nahla! Just because Halle grew up without a dad, doesn’t mean Nahla shouldn’t. Take away the celebrity aspect, who knows what anyone of us would have done if were in that situation. it’s easy to say with a clear head we would do this that, in reality we could end up doing something stupid that you would end up regretting it.

  120. HannahF says:

    Came back to take a look and am still astonished at how many people are excusing Aubry’s behavior. Violence is never the answer.

    And yeah, I do know people in this situation–I represent one. About an hour ago I got a text from him that his Ex didn’t bring the kids for visitation. My guy knows that his behavior is under a microscope so he toes the line–nothing is more important to him than his kids.

    With respect to child support, in California child support is a pure mathematical equation. Numbers are just plugged in. There is a way to finesse the numbers–that’s good lawyering–but really it is just an equation. Google California Family Code Section 4055. It’s all right there.

    • LahdidahBaby says:

      I know that some have attempted to explain Gabriel Aubrey’s behavior on the basis of what Halle Berry has put him through for the last two years, but I don’t think attempting to understand his behavior is the same as excusing it. Most everyone here seems to agree that he was foolish to take the bait if indeed it was a set-up, and only a few have said (on this and other sites) that they can understand why he blew after two years of Berry’s attempts to keep him from his daughter. But honestly, I have seen very few attempts to excuse him…more of a proliferation of suspicions about the actual nature of the Thanksgiving altercation and its timing, location, and possible orchestration.

      Knowing the law is admirable and certainly useful in discussing a situation like this one, but it’s only one part of the picture, and before it can be applied to this case a police investigation into the true details of the fight will be necessary, including consideration of individual testimony and evidence such as security film if it exists–but this sad story also demands considerable thought about and insight into human behavior, personality disorders, trauma and its long- and short-term effects on people, and the common behaviorable motivators such as jealousy, venality, sexual desire, romantic love and the death of it, selfishness, envy, competitiveness, a desire for revenge, a view of oneself as the perennial victim, etc. Shakespeare made his name writing stories that pivot on these aspects of human life, but when they happen to involve presentday people and they occur incrementally over a long enough period of time that someone’s real life begins to resemble a drama in which we each feel (whether true or not) that we have some investment simply by virtue of having followed the paparazzi’s constant supply of photos, it’s hard not to have an opinion about the people involved. Someone invariably becomes the heavy, and while Aubry is being painted as the heavy by Berry, her own behavior tends to implicate her in various ways. No one except little Nahla is completely innocent here, but some will be found to be more culpable than others, and I guess that’s really all this conversation is musing about, guessing about, and in most cases feeling an uncomfortable combination of sadness, suspicion, and even anger at what seems an injustice to a child and one of that child’s parents (WHICH parent is the debate here, and I tend to believe Aubry is that parent, but I could be wrong). The only thing NOT up for debate is that all of this, whether directly witnessed by her or not, will make its way into the pure and innocent psyche of that poor kid, and much of it already has. That kind of damage doesn’t just evaporate when the bickering adults decide to resolve their problems–Nahla will live with the damage all her life.

    • Mmmmm says:

      i am living in europe,i am not familiar with the law in america but did yoy see the last pictures of HB escorted by 4 policemen in motorbikes? …, is she afraid ? of what? , is she so important that need 4 policemen , who pays that? and finally , she just took her daugter to see a show…,

  121. Amelia says:

    Bla Bla Bla all these talk about Gabriel being so angelic… If he is that ‘good’ how come he is frustrating all efforts for his daughter to have a more peaceful harmanous childhood. He should’ve let them move to France but he wanted that child support money so badly. He would have visited the child often on Halle’s dime. He created the hostile enviroment for this child. He may be a pretty boy, but he is obviously violent. Kudos to Halle and Oliver.

    • Dap says:

      Right. Because that’s what you would be doing if it was your own child your ex wanted to move at the other side of the planet with a brand new co-parent…

    • izzy4ya says:

      THIS to everything but the “kudos” part. Nobody wins in this, least of all the kid. But I don’t buy all of this Gabriel is an angel while Halle is manipulative crap. Unless Gabriel is two streets past stupid, Halle can’t make him do anything, and she obviously can’t do whatever she wants. He wants her money, and probably God knows what else. Frankly, his association with this drama is the ONLY thing keeping his name in the media. He must not like the idea of going back to being some obscure zoolander.

  122. Bitca says:

    Why is this supposed to be a “setup?” Are people really suggesting Halle Memememe said, “dear Olivier! Sweetie, will you go outside with me when Gabe arrives & say just a little something to rile him up? I just want him to go away!”

    OK, maybe she wound up her guy a bit, by sheer nature of the beastlier side of the female beast—instead of sagely advising him to make himself scarce when her ex drops off their child—but seems hard to believe this is any more of a “set-up” than any trio of narcissistic a**holes pushing each other’s buttons.

    After Halle’s latest loss in court, she’s surely been feeling sour, & her boyfriend has to prove he’s totally on her side (needs to, no matter how well PR folk have worked to make people forget his history of cheating on his lovers).

    But deliberate “set-up?” Doubt it; situation-wise, all the ducks were in a row for this. Poor, sweet-faced little Nahla. She just seems to be a pawn amongst Halle & her men.

    • kimcheee says:

      I bet Oliver is a bit peeved because Gabriel is blocking Halle & Oliver moving to France with Nahla to live their dream life. I’m sure there must be some animosity between these two men over control of where Oliver gets to reside with Halle and Nahla. It sounds sticky.

  123. emme says:

    I’m pretty annoyed that Halle is constantly being blamed for everything that happens in this situation. Did she possess his body and make him fight with Olivier in front of his 4 year old daughter? No matter what, Gabriel is an adult. He is a grownup responsible for his own actions and he is the other parent of this child. Nahla’s physical, mental, and emotional well being come before his anger. The End. He didn’t give two s#its about Nahla’s emotional well being and sense of stability by starting a fight with one of her caretakers (Olivier) in her presence and in front of her home. He deserves to be arrested, have a restraining order filed against him, and whatever else comes his way.

  124. Kosmos says:

    I don’t want Gabriel to lose his visitation rights, or for Halle to be allowed to take the child to France. Gabe should NOT have allowed himself to be sucked into a fight, he knows this will not work in his favor. Too bad, but this is not a good sign.

  125. Laurie says:

    It is an emotionally charged day – Thanksgiving – with more domestic fights than any other day of the year..but it could mean that the father will be further alienated from his daughter. Parental alienation efforts and moving out of the country will prove to be the death knell for the father. He knows this and it is no wonder that he is on edge..and when he drops off the kid and the smug new man is standing is volatile…but also seems like the new man did most of the bodily harm. The father ends up with broken ribs, beat up face and a possible head injury while the new man has a broken his hand (on the guys face, I guess)…It does seem like she is unstable, too, and maybe the judge ruled against her for a reason.