Benedict Cumberbatch still filming… wait, is Moriarty still alive?! WTH? (Spoilers)


I’m really sorry about all of Benedict Cumberbatch posts lately. I feel like I might be contributing the eventual Cumberbacklash. But for now, I’m happy to ride the Cumberwave because A) Cumby is a dreamboat, an alien-ferret-looking dreamboat with an excellent voice and B) because we keep getting photos from the London set of Sherlock! These are even more photos from the weekend – I covered the re-shoots/re-filming of Sherlock’s “Reichenbach Fall” on Sunday.

So, we’ve already seen Cumby shoot various angles of his “fall”. We’ve already heard that Mark Gatiss was on the set, wearing what seemed like his character’s (Mycroft’s) costume, so perhaps Mycroft was somehow involved in how Sherlock faked his own death. We’re already assuming that Molly Hooper had something to do with how Sherlock faked his death, how he survived “The Fall”. But here’s the question I have after going through these additional photos…
….Did James Moriarty survive?!!?!?! No! How could he?! Moriarty shot himself!! IN THE FACE. There’s no way he could have survived, right? But then how do you explain these photos of Andrew Scott, filming scenes with Benedict and Mark Gatiss? WTF?!!?!?!!?! CB thinks it’s possible that they’re just re-filming what happened before “the fall”. But it could be different… it could be that Moriarty is still alive too…?

Photos courtesy of WENN.

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  1. T.Fanty says:

    Morning all! These aren’t as joyful as the harness/umbrella combo, but I’ll take it! I’m more impressed with the scarf of sex than I am the purple shirt, btw.

    No more spoilers! I can’t resist the Cumby posts!

  2. Amelia says:

    This is driving me nuts. Gah!! I want to know what happened!
    (Solution theories below. Don’t read it if you haven’t seen series 2 🙂 )
    I read a unique theory on Tumblr that ‘Moriarty’ doesn’t actually exist, per se, and the alias he was using in the last episode (the actor who’s name I have forgotten) is in fact, his real identity and Moriarty is his criminal pseudonym.
    But knowing Gatiss and Moffat they’ve probably hidden the solution in plain sight and all of the above is completely and utterly wrong!
    Hmm. I should really be getting back to work rather than speculating over Sherlock conspiracies! I can do *that* with Cumby this evening.

    • T.Fanty says:

      I’m trying REALLY hard not to think about how this could have worked out, because right now, I’m checking out the photos, but not really thinking about what they could mean. I agree that the answer is probably in plain site, so I’m working really hard not to analyze them and figure it all out, so that I can still enjoy the series.

      ETA: LOVE LOVE LOVE pictures of Mycroft, though!

      • Amelia says:

        I’m feeling confident that viewers (apart from those working on the show) haven’t figured it out, yet. If history is anything to go by it’s going to be a brilliantly unexpected solution.
        “Ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin’ alive!”
        Anyway, I’m excited to think we might get more Andrew Scott scenes, even if this is his swansong. He’s such a fantastic actor and was such a sweetheart when he picked up his BAFTA.

      • Jenna says:

        @Amelia: LOVE the shoutout to his ringtone and that scene. LOL

      • Crumpets and Crotchshots says:

        I want that ringtone!

      • T.Fanty says:

        The ringtone is great, but only when accompanied by the Moriaty eye-roll.

      • T.Fanty says:

        I feel the same way about Adam Scott.

        I haven’t read the stories in probably fifteen years. Do they hold up?

      • T.Fanty says:

        Sorry – just came back and saw that my response to Miss Eyre appeared in the wrong thread. My apologies.

    • j.eyre says:

      Sorry to be a snit, but I have been trying to start this discussion for some time. Moriarty’s death is confirmed and his “presence” haunts Sherlock.

      • T.Fanty says:

        I don’t think his presence on set proves anything. Any explanation scene would require a flashback, so Moriaty would be needed.

        If I remember my ACD correctly, later on in his career, he *really* got into spiritualism and the supernatural, so maybe. That said, the whole point of Sherlock is the emphasis on the pragmatic and rational over the imaginary, and I really can’t see him being that indulgent.

      • grabbyhands says:

        EXACTLY!!! So many people have been freaking out about him being spotted on set and it’s like-HE’S DEAD. All the key players in the show production have said this. I’m not ruling out Moffat and co. trolling everyone, but not about this, I think.

      • j.eyre says:

        Yes, he did get into spiritualism and that increased his sense that Moriarty was always around. The lines between whether it was Moriarty or Sherlock’s mind were blurred throughout the books. Doesn’t even Watson believe Moriarty has returned in one story?

        In post ACD Sherlock, Moriarty was brought back.

        I am not so sure I think they will keep him alive, but TV does love a good resurrection and I just very much want Adam Scott back.

      • andrea says:

        I’m down with the Moriarty flashback/haunting ideas, except those shots with Mycroft scream ‘conspiracy’ to me. Is that from actual filming or do Mark Gatiss and Andrew Scott really just look that cool walking around?

    • ya says:

      I know!!!!!! I can’t resist clicking on these posts – not because I am a huge Cumberbatch fan or anything – but because I cannot wait until the next Sherlock ep!

      haha I’ll have to rewatch them all now.

  3. Nilber says:

    I love this show! Can’t wait for season 3.

  4. Kate says:

    Could you not put a possible spoiler in the title? I’m really trying to avoid knowing anything about the new series of Sherlock (I totally did NOT even look at the contents of this post) and I’m sure there are other people like me. I’m not like this about any other show, but this show is too good and I really want to experience it without knowing anything. Thanks.

  5. Faye says:

    You know, I was wondering if Moriarty was actually dead. He’s so central to the show that I didn’t see how he could. I don’t know how they’re going to explain away the end of Season 2 if he is, though.

    This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I really don’t like the actor who plays Moriarty. He seems so weaselly and gross, and not like some Epic Enemy.

    • Anna says:

      I believe the show’s creators said after season 2 wrapped that Moriarty will no longer be an important part of the show (tho some presence was implied – maybe bc he’ll be referenced?) and Sherlock will move on to another adversary. But M-S standoff was epic in the books and wonderfully done here, so I’ll be sad to see him go.

    • T.Fanty says:

      He was so dead. There was ambiguity about the way Sherlock went down (sidenote: mmmmmm), but Moriaty unambiguously shot himself in the face.

  6. Jenna says:

    Oooh, I hope not. So far they’ve been pretty faithful to the books as they can be; hopefully they stay that way. I’m going to go with the re-filming of scenes.

    • BW says:

      I’m guessing it’s a combination of refilming of scenes, from different angles, to show what REALLY happened, and flashbacks, in which case Moriarty would be needed.

      If they stay true to the books, Moriarty is really dead. Of course, that doesn’t mean his empire just disappears. I’m sure #2 would take over.

    • ya says:

      Ya I agree – they are too faithful to the books I think to do anything differently.

      But who knows – maybe they’ve changed their minds and decided to shock people!

  7. Anna says:

    Am I the only one who sees Moriarty wearing the same overcoat as Sherlock?

    • Anna says:

      Not any more you’re not… SO MANY THEORIES!!!

    • loveisthecoal says:

      NO YOU ARE NOT. I was coming here to ask the same thing!! What’s going on?? How much longer do we have to wait until we actually see the new episodes?? Gah!

  8. Anna says:

    It’s got to be a flashback, right? RIGHT?

  9. chloe says:

    again, where is my molly hooper?
    and mr. scott is really a scary moriarty…there is something so disturbing about him…maybe that’s just me

    • loveisthecoal says:

      No, he freaks me the hell out too. I’ve heard he’s the nicest guy in real life…if so he’s a great actor!!

  10. GoodCapon says:

    I didn’t read the previous Sherlock threads, but did anybody catch that news of their producer asking the fans to keep the filming locations a secret? Why the secrecy? Other TV shows are more open to reveal where they are shooting.

  11. grabbyhands says:

    LOLS. They’re doing some re-filming of the end of the Reichenbach Fall. Everyone involved with the production has already said numerous times that Andrew Scott isn’t going to make some miraculous comeback in the new series.

  12. princesslizabeth says:

    Bwah-ha-ha…”alien-ferret-looking dreamboat with an excellent voice…”

    That is a perfect description. Love it! I can hardly wait to see the new series. Cumby is just amazing.

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Who called our alien dreamboat a ferret?!! If anyone in that cast is a ferret, it’s Moriarty. Little weasel.

  13. GeeMoney says:

    Cool it with spoilers already. Geez.

  14. Dani says:

    They’re all dressed really well. Like, really sharp suits. And Cumberbatch in sunglasses?!?

  15. Lemony says:

    Love his curly hair.

  16. MissMary says:

    the going theory that makes the most sense (sorry, Moriarty fans and those dying for a conspiracy) is that John gets hypnotized. Derren Brown was on the set, filming scenes, and some included hypnosis of Watson.

  17. T.Fanty says:

    ESSSSCONNNNNNNNN (and Ameilia, Andrea, Allons-y and other awesome cbitches whose names don’t begin with A).

    Twitter meeeee at @thisbysmantle. We have google groups going so we can chat together, and might even start the CBBC.

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Yes, My Queen! I shall. I just discovered that you can change your Twitter name on a whim!

      But I don’t think there’s much hope of my speaking in 140 characters…..I’ll just have to approach it as “Twitter haiku.” Haiku I can do.

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Fanty, I just replied to you in Post #18. Didn’t want it to go wandering away.

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Cumby once mentioned that he was going to change his initials to BBC—since he has spent so much time there.

    • andrea says:

      Wait, I don’t have Twitter! Yes, sorry, I am so behind on this. Like EsCon, I just can’t with the 140 characters. But I promise to check your Twitter regularly… see, I’m reading it now.

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Yoo Hoo Fanty,

      I have attempted 8 twitter names, & they are all taken. Must go into obscure sub-references for further ideas. (GiddyAunt is taken.)

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Seventeen names so far! HOW can “ScoldsBridle” already be taken??

  18. EscapedConvent says:


    I just remembered that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle may have believed in the Cottingly Fairies. How adorable!

    Fanty, are you the lady who adores Toby Stephens? Have you seen “Photographing Fairies?” Toby Stephens, Ben Kingsley, & the guy who played the psycho cab driver in Sherlock–A Touch of Pink.

    Must see if you love Toby! 😉

    • T.Fanty says:

      Oh god, yes I did. He was *so* lovely. Beautiful, beautiful Toby. Sigh.

      • EscapedConvent says:

        He really is. And a great actor. He is fantastic as a villain, & he broke my heart as the sweet husband of Photographing Fairies. (I have a weakness for fairies—never outgrew that one!)

        Hey—slight update—I just checked Twitter & discovered that there are many, *many* ladies there named Blanche DuBois. ;-( Have to cross that one off.

        Remember those refrigerator magnets with random words & phrases printed on little tiles, & you just throw them down like dice, & that’s your name or sentence? That is how I’m going to find my Twitter name. Progress is being made.

      • T.Fanty says:

        I kind of love the fact that this appears to have become this monumental project for you. It’s like your Everest.

      • T.Fanty says:

        ETA: how is there possibly already an @EscapedConvent on twitter?

      • j.eyre says:


        I will keep thinking. And you can change it, easily. I have they same concentration on names as you and wen through this. I changed mine within 12 hours – ask Fanty. Everyone gets told.

      • T.Fanty says:

        Vespahedgehog! Vespahedgehog! Dammit! I want them all!

        ETA: This was the closest I could find:

      • EscapedConvent says:

        Fanty & Miss Eyre,

        I confess I do put a lot of anguished thought into names. Names are a big deal to me. All of my children are nameless because I just couldn’t decide. There was so much pressure! Everyone expects a name! I learned to identify them by their special physical or personality quirks, i.e. Sticky-Out Ears, Curly Toes, Crap Attitude, you know. (I kid.)

        I may have found one. & I like VespaHedgehog & NunEscaped. In fact, something with Vespa is a great idea, as I already love them & want one desperately.

        Well, I wasn’t going to use EscapedConvent. No reason, really. I was just trying to think of something else, `cause that’s the kind of weird hairpin I am…stay tuned.

        P.S. Medusa Cascade? `Cause of Dr. Who. I’m sure there are 50 of them already–I’d be shocked if there weren’t.

      • j.eyre says:

        Love anything with Medusa. MedusasScrunchy? JaguarHolmes?

        I got you on the name front. I spend an exorbitant amount of timing trying to figure out what my parents should have named me. And I have 5 aliases.

      • T.Fanty says:

        They should have named you something mighty, lascivious and epic. Something to match a half-Citroen chariot. Is there a girl version of Caligula? Caligulara?

    • T.Fanty says:

      Check it out! Beautiful, dastardly Toby!

      He can tie me to a train-track and cackle while plinkety piano music plays, any day of the week.

      • EscapedConvent says:

        Mmmmm…what a delicious wicked smile!

        I heard about a series he was in called “Vexed.” Do you know anything about that? Thought I might go look for it.

      • T.Fanty says:

        Is that the cop show that looks so, unimaginably cheesy? It’s kind of hard to locate, and I think with good reason. You know it’s bad when even Netflix won’t stream it.

      • T.Fanty says:

        Here’s a little gift for Miss Jane. To be entirely honest, I’d push Cumby off a roof – harnessless(sssss) – if Toby asked me to. Maybe I’d let him keep the umbrella, to give him a fighting chance.

      • EscapedConvent says:

        Maybe I’call myself Plinkety Vespa. Probably won’t have to fight anyone for that name.

        I think Miss Eyre should consider Calamity Jane as a name, but that one could be taken!

      • EscapedConvent says:

        MedusaCascade, DantesBeatrice, Loonette, Violetta—all taken. Naomi, how did you get to be Naomi when there are others? I don’t get it.

        Now I’m going to survey ancient Rome for a name & may stay there awhile. I wanted “Domina” just because I like the sound, but of course there are dozens of them & they’re all Ladies In Leather With Whips. But I did think of one that isn’t taken. So we’re close….

  19. alison8761 says:

    Andrew Scott wearing the same outfit as he was in the fall. (OK, the collar is actually slightly different, but that could be a mistake but really wardrobe is probably too eagle eyed for that). and Gatiss is wearing the same outfit he was in a Scandal in Belgravia (the adler ep) or at the end of Richenbach.

    I think they’re doing flashbacks and John was most likely hypnotized.

    AND of course there is the theory that Gatiss and Moffat are just messing with fans and shooting a few random scenes to throw people off.

    Ben lets it slip that Moriarty only MIGHT be dead then he kind of retreats and realizes what he’s saying and tries to get out of it. This was right when BC came back to Sherlock and was looking at the script and probably saw Andrew was coming back so felt compelled to.. at least not lie and say “No more andrew scott!!”

  20. Judith says:

    Can we get some pics of Dr. Watson, please?!

  21. Karen says:

    Wht a spoiler in the flippin headline????????? Signed,

    no longer trying to catch up

  22. Aud says:

    With Steven Moffat as the writer, you can expect anything to happen, even Moriarty being alive (even though they gave the impression that he was a fake/decoy).

  23. Christina says:

    Moriarty’s wearing Sherlock’s coat!!! My empty and meaningless life is now complete. I shit you not!