Note to Harvey Weinstein: Do not mess with Tilda Swinton. Ever.

Tilda Swinton!!!! Tilda was not in Toronto for the TIFF premiere of Only Lovers Left Alive. Sad. I was looking forward to photos of Tilda and Tom Hiddleston looking tall and dashing next to each other, perhaps even holding hands again. Instead, Tilda was in Deauville to premiere Snowpiercer, one of the many dystopian-future films of the year. Tilda wore this extraordinary orange-red coat at the photocall in Deauville – I haven’t found the designer ID, but she wears a lot of Haider Ackermann and this looks like it could totally be Ackermann. She’s stunning. Tilda is 52 years old! Alien-goddess.

For what it’s worth, Snowpiercer (directed by Bong Joon-Ho) has gotten very good reviews and it’s already a hit overseas. This time, dystopia comes about after some global warming disaster ruins the earth, so all of the human survivors come together on this one crazy train, with all of the rich elites at the front of the train and all of the poor people at the back of the train. No one ever leaves the train, I guess. Here’s the trailer (Chris Evans is in it):

Interestingly enough, there’s a controversy about the film. Sort of. As I said, the film is already a hit overseas, as director Bong Joon-Ho released his “director’s cut” (2 hours long) to international markets already. But Snowpiercer doesn’t have an American release date yet, even though it will be distributed by The Weinstein Company. The controversy is that Harvey Weinstein is demanding that Bong Joon-Ho edit 20 minutes from the film before he’ll distribute the thing in America. Bong Joon-Ho tried to downplay the controversy at Deauville, but Tilda wasn’t having ANY of it. You want a war, Harvey? TILDA WILL GIVE YOU A WAR.

Snowpiercer director Bong Joon-Ho shot down rumors of a reported 20-minute cut to the film for American audiences, saying nothing has been decided at this point.

“Actually, it’s not true. It’s a rumor,” he said at a press conference preceding the French premiere at the American Film Festival here.

The Weinstein Company, which holds the North American rights to the dystopian thriller, has been holding off on announcing a release date for the South Korean produced film, which broke box office records in that country.

“Me and The Weinstein Company are still negotiating about everything,” the director said. “The movie at the festival, the French version is my own director’s cut. In Korea, Japan, France and many other European countries have all bought my director’s cut. And for North America we are still negotiating with The Weinstein Company, we are discussing.”

The international co-production boasts an A-list cast including Oscar-winners Tilda Swinton and Octavia Spencer, Ed Harris, John Hurt, Jamie Bell, and Chris Evans.

“There’s no question that all English speaking audiences deserve to see director Bong’s cut, and we hope very much that we will all see it,” said Swinton, who is also at the festival for the film’s premiere.

“Maybe an effect of the film, it just occurred to me, is that when one has spent two hours in the claustrophobia of this train we can leave the cinema and feel the relief that we can make life wider, so maybe it’s a sort of aversion therapy to sit in the train for two hours,” she added, reflecting on the intensity of the film.

But she pointedly added: “That’s two hours, not one hour and forty minutes.”

[From THR]

GET HIM, Tilda! Tilda is not afraid of you, Harvey. She will cut your heart out and serve it to you ON ICE. Now I kind of want Tilda to get mad at me just so I can get yelled at too. God, I love her. I love that she’s not some starlet who is too nervous of alienating one of the most powerful producers in Hollywood. Tilda stands up for artists! She’s amazing.

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  1. Nessa says:

    Just one more reason to love her! Harvey Weinstein is seriously one of the most disgusting human beings on the planet… On so many levels.

    • Cupcake says:

      Why? I’m new here and haven’t heard much about him.

      • Cary says:

        Google Harvey Weinstein, Gretchen Mol, Blake Lively, Georgina Chapman, blind item. Then take the bleach bath you will need afterward.

      • Amelia says:

        If the rumours are to be believed, he’s a regular frequenter of the casting couch, a rampant misogynist and he’s also partially responsible for rise of Marchesa.
        That’s enough said in my book.
        Tilda – don’t ever change, you wonderful, talented alien.

      • Cupcake says:

        Why did JLaw thank him in her acceptance speech? He seems awful.

      • Riotbelle says:

        JLaw thanked him bcause of course,she is supposed to be one of his “girls”.

      • mom2two says:

        JLaw thanked him in her speech because he worked hard to make sure she got her Oscar.

      • OutstandingWorldCitizen says:

        The same rumors were floated about Goop. I didn’t know about Gretchen, Blake and Georgina. Yikes. He is gross! When you look at his wife you go…WTF?! Then again he’s wealthy and powerful.

        Please tell me J. Law did not go there. I really can not see it. She would not be a taker. I just don’t see it in her to put her career so high that she’d go there. Vomiting in my mouth.

      • Random Dude says:

        >Please tell me J. Law did not go there. >I really can not see it. She would not >be a taker. I just don’t see it in her >to put her career so high that she’d go >there. Vomiting in my mouth.

        Of course she went there, don’t be naive.
        She plays the game as they all do.

      • Runs with Scissors says:

        @Random Dude:

        J-Law thanked Weinstein in her Oscar speech because his very powerful company produced and distributed her film.

        It’s incredibly naive and disrespectful to say that she must have f*cked Weinstein to get the part, or that “they all do.”

      • Kim says:

        JLaw thanked him because he bought her that Oscar period. Its naive to think some girls dont go there. Youd be sadly suprised.

      • Kristin says:

        Kim: That’s true. But it’s also incredibly naive to assume that ALL girls do “go there”.

    • V4Real says:

      Can’t stand Harvey but I thought Tilda still kind of threw shade to him in the political way. She basically just said Americans won’t feel the full effect of the film if 20 minutes is edited. She didn’t yell or say anything nasty towards him. She kept it classy and I just want to hear a celeb really ripping into him.

    • whipmyhair says:

      Tilda Swinton is on my list of people who are sent from heaven to give us joy. Also on the list-
      Meyrl Streep, Cate Blachett, Dame Helen Mirren and Dame Judy Dench.
      I’m all for equal opportunity but not many men give me as much pure joy as these ladies (Martin Freeman is wait listed)Most men don’t fulfill my high standards! :)

    • Rosemary says:

      I want to be Tilda Swinton when I grow up…OK, IF I ever grow up.

  2. Kaboom says:

    The idea of that movie is so harebrained I don’t really care if they put it out anywhere else or not.

  3. LAK says:

    I’ve seen this film. I loved it, but I tend to love Far East cinema/directors.

    Harvey is notorious for re-editing films he buys AND sitting on them until he gets his way.

    In this case I don’t think it’s helpful when the film is already available outside America in all the major territories especially as he uses the awards shows to promote his films and the majority of the award members live outside America and will see a different cut (if they see it).

    • hazeldazel says:

      I know, it’s so frustrating. I mean, it’s not like the director’s cut is a 3+ hour where you’re praying your bladder holds out. It’s 2 freaking hours, that’s kind of standard. I think it’s also a matter of control for Harvey Pervstain.

  4. lady mary. says:

    i bow to this woman ! we need more like her ,to put that scum of an earthling in his place

  5. Clever hand says:

    The hubs and I saw The Grandmaster, which Harvey cut a good portion out of. I was so looking forward to it but it just seemed disjointed and I really has trouble following. I read that Harvey cut background info about the characters to give the us audience a shorter running time.

    • Jane says:

      I saw the original version a few months ago and said, “God, that was so beautiful, but it was so hard to follow. It needs to be tightened up a bit”. That was before I heard that Harv was cutting it up. If it’s still hard to follow, I have to say-that one’s not his fault. Beautiful to look at though, right?

      • Clever hand says:

        Yup, pretty but not much there story-wise. I haven’t seen the Ip Man movie from five or six years ago but the hubs thought it covered his story better than this one.

      • Bijlee says:

        @Clever hand I’m so biased because IP man is an AWESOME movie (historical inaccuracies aside). I just can’t see the Grandmaster being as much fun. I’m not a fan of Ziyi Zhang anyways and Tony Leung while a beautiful man….I just don’t’ like him as yip man. I’m really biased.

    • Danskins says:

      I agree – I just saw The Butler recently, which was also produced by the Weinstein company. While a great film, it felt really disjointed at times and as such, was hard to keep up with. Certain scenes seemed cut too short at the expense of a more coherent storyline.

      Perhaps if Weinstein hadn’t been involved or left director Lee Daniels alone, the film could’ve enjoyed an overall stronger storyline.

  6. bns says:

    She is gorgeous. I can’t believe she’s in her 50s.

    • V4Real says:

      Tilda and David Bowie seperated at birth.

      Everyone has their own idea of physical beauty but I don’t see beauty when I look at Tilda. If this woman is beautiful then Goop must be drop dead gorgeous.

    • Jane says:

      I think she is pretty, but she would be even prettier if she used some makeup and gave herself a little color. I don’t mean a tan, I mean some lipstick, blush, bring out her eyes.

      The coat dress is too big and hangs on her, but it does give her color!

      • Belle Epoch says:

        I just have to respectfully disagree. Not putting shit on her face like every Blake Lively or J Law is part of Tilda’s alien magnificence. She doesn’t need ANYTHING. She is above all that. Unless maybe it’s something bizarre.

      • Stef Leppard says:

        I agree with Belle Epoch. Part of her appeal is that she is different and stark. And I have never seen a bad photo of her! Never. She always looks amazing.

      • eliza says:

        I have to disagree. I think Tilda looks fabulous as is, and unlike the scary Hollywood folk with mink coats on their eye lids and 10 inches of foundation with powder not blending in, Tilda clean face is lovely and refreshing.

    • hazeldazel says:

      Have you seen the movie Orlando (stars Tilda and I think is based on a Virginia Wolfe story), it is so freaking awesome! Full of Swinton goodness. My favorite movie of hers by far.

      • LAK says:

        i love that film. First indie i ever saw. i think there were 3 other people in the screening that was playing it. it was a fluke on my part because all other screenings of various other films were full and it was raining so we thought we would kill a few hours by watching any film that was immediately available.

        best decision ever. Much better than BLAME IT ON THE BELLBOY which i think was the film we had gone to see.

      • Ari says:

        wonderful film

  7. MrsBPitt says:

    I’m sorry but I do not like the coat…I’m getting flasher vibes lol…

  8. Vera says:

    I didn’t realize she was 52. Truly ageless.

  9. Felice says:

    I saw OLLA at TIFF and she is SO PRETTY!!! She has one of those faces that if you just see her pictures, it’s like “Ok.” But she is so tall and sexy in the movie that it just opened my eyes.

  10. PrairieGirl says:

    Team Tilda, always. Kick Harvey again, lady!

  11. T.fanty says:

    Tilda is a weird, alien goddess. Speaking of Tilda, she’s making a Macbeth movie with Sean Bean, which is going to blow the Fassbender/Coutillard attempt out of the water. The budget Macbeths might as well go home now.

    • Cora says:

      YES! The film will be called “Enemy of Man”. They just struck a deal for worldwide distribution at TIFF, so the film is a go! It starts shooting in January!

    • Miss Jupitero says:

      I just heard about that! Yep, sorry all you faux Macbeths: this one is already stealing the show.

      TILDA and BEAN!

    • Thiajoka says:

      O.M.G! Can’t wait for that one.

      I love Tilda because she’s one of those creative people who simply do what they want to in order to express their creativity without kowtowing to the mainstream formula for achieving success–sometimes her stuff is mainstream, but it never seems to truly touch her reputation as being “other” and “innovative.” I respect that so much.

    • mom2two says:

      Also in this Bean/Swinton MacBeth movie is Rupert Grint and the dude that is going to play Finnick (I am drawing a blank on the name right now, though his involvement is a rumor right now).
      Forgot to add-Charles Dance is also in this one.

      Enemy of Man for the win.

    • Shannon1972 says:

      Sean Bean is an amazing actor…but for the love of god, why does he have to die in every movie he is in?? Can’t we let him live, just once? Save Sean Bean!! ;)

      • Shannon1972 says:

        Also agree that Bean and Swinton together will be absolutely epic. I would actually pay to see this in the theater.

  12. NM9005 says:

    She is rare because she’s an individual. And she’s crazy talented. She’s the kind of person who would be successful in pretty much anything she does because she works hard for it and she’s passionate. Rare.

  13. Naomi says:

    I never understand why distributors insist on shorter running times. I think most of us have a reasonable attention span. If a film is great two hours goes by quickly and based on the narrative this looks like one of those films were running time won’t have a huge impact.

  14. Cora says:

    I cannot believe this woman is 52. She’s looks absolutely incredible. What a truly beautiful woman.

  15. Miss Jupitero says:

    TILDA!!! *worship*

    I am ripping that coat off her and running for it, first opportunity…..

    • stinky says:

      (how funny cause i just posted that i’d do the same w/ Angelina’s black flats in the Aussie aquarium pics!) Tilda loves architectural pieces, but i gotta say they often look ill-fitted, in spite of the design concepts… what am i missing?
      All the movies mentioned here sound cool as hell. I hope to hear of them & find them showing when the time comes – i’m freakin sick of everything anymore.
      As for Harvey insisting on shorter running times – SINCE WHEN is 2 hours considered too long for a movie??? I’ve sat thru plenty which were f-a-r longer, and i pondered why they werent cut – but 2 hours is hardly excessive? seriously, since when? Lastly, Tilda terrifies me – IN A GOOD WAY!

      • Apsutter says:

        Yes…all the movies I have seen this summer have been right around the two hour mark. Including the trainwreck known as Great Gatsby! Talk about a too long running time for a not interesting enough film. Should have known since it was Luhrman that it’d be all glitter and no substance.

      • eliza says:

        Sadly, people’s ability to pay attention and sit still for two hours in this day and age is almost unheard of. They can’t be away from effing Facebook and Twitter that long. Ugh!

  16. Chutzpah says:

    If Tilda ever turns up at a premiere in Marchessa we wont need to look for the four Horsemen of the Apocalypse we will KNOW it is end times.

    And fuck Weinstein, I cant find this film full legnth anywhere in the UK.

  17. MeowuiRose says:

    I love Tilda and worship at her alter. She is excellent in everything she does. I loved her in We Need To Talk About Kevin. I find her looks to be very unique and beautiful much like Cate Blanchett. I really don’t care for Harvey but I admit with much embarrassment that there are several movies he has been apart of that I’ve really enjoyed.

  18. stinky says:

    Thank you for Sunday posts, btw! xoxo
    Making my morning :)

  19. Tig says:

    She’s amazing – check out “I Am Love”- she looks totally different in that movie than here- her ability to morph into a character is second to none.

  20. brin says:

    Talented and fearless, gotta love Tilda!!

  21. Lucy says:

    I love her! And hopefully Weinstein won’t get away with that. Didn’t know about this movie but this article made me want to see it!

  22. chloe says:

    I love her and I can’t believe she’s in her 50′s. As for Weinstein, I will regretfully agree with a poster above when I admit I like some of the movies he’s produced, I don’t have to like his way of running a business. A director’s movie is like an artists painting, you wouldn’t tell Van Gogh to use less blue and you shouldn’t tell a director what to take out of his or her movie.

  23. Apsutter says:

    F*ck the Weinsteins anyways…with there all consuming Hollywood power and the fact that all their Oscars are bought and paid for.

  24. videli says:

    I’m giddy with excitement about this movie. Bong Joon-Ho is a world-class director. Harvey is quite an idiot sometimes, he tried to pull the same editing shit with Reservoir Dogs, and he held the opening for Shaolin Soccer for so long, that everybody ended up seeing in a pirated version, moi included. Somebody should fire him. Donald Trump should do it. I’d like to see a face-off of these two behemoths of slime and ego.

  25. mslewis says:

    I love Tilda: I love her hair, I love her face, I love her clothes . . . she’s wonderful. I want to be her friend.

    Unfortunately, she can say anything she wants to say about Harvey Weinstein but he will get his way and this movie will be cut by 20 minutes. That is how moguls work and Harvey is a mogul of the first degree. Sorry, Tilda.

    The good news is that when the DVD comes out, there will be a “director’s cut” version that will cost more, people will buy it, Harvey will make more money, and the world will be perfect again.

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      Go ahead Harvey, make my day. Shorten ‘Snowpiercer’ and release your low class tacky money grubbing movie theater version. I and a BUNCH of other SciFi aficionados will boycott your ass and simply watch this movie in its entirety somewhere else.

      In today’s internet world, mslewis, we don’t have to suffer fools like Harvey Weinstein gladly OR line his wallet.

      • mslewis says:

        I didn’t say you had to suffer him I just said he will get his way and he will make money. Boycott all you want. That’s the American way.

      • Bijlee says:

        +1 I’m going to buy the korean version from a Korean website. While Harvey may have the American rights to this movie, I’m pretty sure he can’t profit off the movie sales in Korea.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        mslewis, don’t get me wrong; I share your disdain for ol’ ham-fisted Harvey. He is getting so much bad press for entertaining shortening ‘Snowpiercer’, especially in the SciFi community who will refuse to support him at the box office or DVD resale market, and that will reduce his profits. Losing money may make Weinstein more amenable to keeping this artistically promising movie intact.

  26. taxi says:

    I love the coat but not on Tilda. It’s too big for her & not a flattering color.

  27. TheyPromisedMeBeer says:

    Honestly, that was a very classy answer on the part of Tilda. I was hoping for better. Like, say, Harvey Weinstein coming out of his office with two or three new a**holes because Tilda really let him have it. Lord knows that sexist pig deserves it.

  28. lrm says:

    I actually hate how every movie is so self-important these days, that it thinks it needs 2 plus hours to tell its story. So much more impactful when it’s 90 minutes or maybe 1 hr 40 min. tops.
    Just sayin’.
    Comedies, action, period pieces, thrillers-they are all so dam long these days…Tilda or not, I’d prefer shorter not b/c I don’t have the attention span, but b/c it’s tighter. There are very few films that I believe warranted two plus hours. When I’m spacing out during a scene here adn there, with these long movies, it’s not b/c of my ability to focus; it’s b/c the movie has a lot of superfluous ‘stuff’.
    1.40 on a train can be just as effective, if not more so, than 2 hrs. though i’ve not seen this one, so who knows. I won’t anyway-dystopia stuff is getting old.

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      Irm, are you not a SciFi Fan? We nerds and classic movie lovers want the real deal and not a dumbed down version.

      “Comedies, action, period pieces, thrillers-they are all so dam long these days…” – American movies today seem so long because they’re mostly terrible and aimed squarely at the low brow market and what will translate easily to an international market.

  29. Claudia says:

    OMG Weinstein, you had better not alter one bit of Jong-Ho’s work. Not even one second of it.

    I’ve seen most of Jong-Ho’s movies. Memories of a Murder, Mother, The Host… you really don’t have anything to worry about with this director. If the premise sounds ridiculous (and it does to me), know that this director will make it something watchable and memorable. He’ll make it real. I’m really looking forward to it.

    Also, I have some movie recommendations for posters (South Korean/Japanese/HK cinema, etc). Many of these can be found on Netflix, although I didn’t point out all of them (I cancelled my subscription for the moment, but I indicated the Netflix ones from what I can remember):

    Any films by Boon Jong-Ho
    The Company Man (on Netflix!)
    The Man from Nowhere (on Netflix!)
    War of the Arrows (on Netflix!)
    Guns & Talks
    My Sassy Girl
    Zatoichi, Brother (basically any films by Takeshi Kitano)
    Battle Royale
    Sword of the Stranger
    Tokyo Sonata
    The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
    Whisper of the Heart (or any films by Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli)
    ChungKing Express
    Grave of the Fireflies
    Seven Samurai
    Sunny (on Netflix!)
    Children Who Chase Lost Voices
    Days of Being Wild (or any movie starring Leslie Chung)
    Farewell My Concubine
    Raise the Red Lantern

    That’s to get you started :) . A mix of genres. I would love recommendations too!

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      Wow! Thank you, Claudia!!

    • LAK says:

      Claudia, you have my heart!!!

      Love all those films. Though OLD BOY still terrifies me. I am dreading the Spike Lee remake as all these terrible remakes tend to be. Just about the only decent remake was INFERNAL AFFAIRS trilogy remade as THE DEPARTED, but i always wish people would see the originals.

      I’d add to your list any film by Wong Kar Wai, LUST CAUTION, DUMPLINGS, MY WIFE THE GANGSTER,3 IRON, MASQUERADE {Korean film released in 2012}, Any film with Maggie Cheung, Tony Leung. There is also a fabulous remake of DANGEROUS LIASONS called UNTOLD STORY from Korea.

      • Claudia says:

        Old Boy is crazy. I just don’t see how they would keep you-know-what the same in an American remake, which is the heart and soul and tragedy of Old Boy.

        I loved Infernal Affairs, I couldn’t bring myself to watch The Departed because that remake came only a few years after. If you say it’s good, then maybe one day I’ll give it a shot. The way it ends was so sad for me though, not one I could easily re-watch.

        LOL @ Dumplings. Oh man, that one needs a warning :) . From your list I haven’t seen Masquerade or 3-Iron. I’m still disturbed by The Bow (also by Kim Ki-Duk), which I actually didn’t like– what did you think of it?

        I’m going to add a few more drama/romantic/cutesy movies, because I realize my list has some really heavy/depressing/violent ones:
        Il Mare (the original ‘The Lake House’)
        Shall We Dance? (MILES better than the American remake)
        My Sassy Bride
        In The Mood For Love
        Seducing Mr. Perfect (very light film and half the dialogue is in English!)
        Eat Drink Man Woman
        The King of Masks
        Hard Boiled (couldn’t resist another action movie…)

      • Claudia says:

        Ahhh, some corrections to my list: Leslie ChEung and My LITTLE Bride. Sorry :)

      • LAK says:

        IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE is hands down the most erotic film i have seen. Love the score and the slow motion sequences up/down the steps…..

        The only other film by Kim Ki-Duk that i have seen is SPRING SUMMER AUTUMN WINTER, but i shall go see THE BOW on your recommendation.

        Something to make you laugh: there is a Bollywood version of OLD BOY called ZINDA.It works surprisingly. Isn’t as terrifying.

        I have to see HARD BOILED again. it’s been so long since i saw it that i can’t remember what it’s about.

        For an action thriller person like you, i would add ELECTION by Johnnie To. I think there is a sequel, but i haven’t watched it.

        Also Ang Lee’s first international [meaning west] break out hit THE WEDDING BANQUET.

      • Claudia says:

        I haven’t seen Election or The Wedding Banquet, so I will get on that :) . I wouldn’t really recommend The Bow– I didn’t like it at all… I was curious whether you saw it and saw anything redeemable in it (besides the acting). It just icked me out.

      • Bijlee says:

        I must be the only one who HATED Oldboy. Sympathy for Lady Vengenace is a far better film imo. Oldboy was just boring as f-ck. Unfortunately for me I knew the “twist” because some douchebag told me and I’m sorry to say that’s ALL the film relies on is that “twist.” The shock and awe bored me too. I saw the animal eating scene and remained just bored and everyone else was shocked. I mean it’s not that big a deal.

        That said it works far better as a korean movie than an American one. It just makes NO sense as an American film. You can’t translate certain things well at all.

        Claudia the departed is a VERYY good stand alone movie and one of the few good remakes I’ve seen of Infernal Affairs. There’s a korean version that’s comedic and I don’t know. It’s aight I guess.

        Thanks for the recommendations though! I’ve only seen a few of those films on that list, and have been trying to see several of the others for ages. Departures is at the top of my queue and I just can’t seem to find time or energy to devote to it. I would add Castaway to the Moon (a korean film) as a film to watch AND A tale of two sisters. The latter is far creepier than the american one. I’ve watched ALOT more dramas and movies that’s for sure and I always recommend that people watch My Name is Kim Sam Soon and/or Coffee Prince. Both lovely dramas that are fun and lighthearted. Kim Sam Soon is considered the Bridget Jones of Korea, but I like her so much better than Bridget Jones. And Hyun bin *squeals!*

        And yes a thousand times to Bong joon-ho’s mother. That movie made me change my mind about him completely. I was bored in the host and memories of murder, but mother blew me away. Absolute favorite Korean movie ever!

        @LAK omg you watched the bollywood version of oldboy???? I heard it was beyond awful. The only indian movie I can recommend at the moment is Amu. I just saw it and loved it. It deals with the genocide of the Sikhs and is on youtube with english subtitles. I’m sick of Indian movies being defined by bollywood. Indian cinema is helluva lot diverse than just that. I mean I still love my bollywood, but I wish people saw the parallel/arthouse films more.

        Oh and English Vinglish. That one has gotten rave reviews. AS well as Barfi! It’s a light, kind of dramatic, but overall funny film. It’s lifted a lot from Chaplain’s work and a bunch of other stuff, but I don’t know I still love it.

        Sorry. I enjoy this whole conversation.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        Thanks, Bijlee, for more movie recommends!

      • LAK says:

        Bijlee – I heard a conversation with a guy who was distributing OLD BOY in American, and he mentioned the Bollywood version, so I watched it to see their take on it.

        OLD BOY may be boring now, but it was the film that made films like SAW, HOSTEL acceptable to the censors. I don’t think a lot of it is shocking anymore because we’ve seen worse and everybody knows the twist by now.

        Bollywood is what it is. I agree that people assume that is all there is with Indian cinema, but I always urge them to explore some more. I think the problem is that Yash Chopra came to dominate Bollywood so much during the 80s and 90s that all other film makers stopped making diverse films, and this version of Bollywood came to dominate all the other types of film making in India ad Pakistan. I always prefer the films from the 70s/60s/50s. That said, my (new) Bollywood recommendation is always LAGAAN for the uninitiated. This is the film that started the revival and move away from the Yash Chopra Bollywood, and MONSOON WEDDING if you like lighthearted comedy. Actually, I love any Mira Nair films, so I’d recommend her entire ouvre.

        I have seen the films in your list, and I love them. There is a concerted effort by newer Indian filmmakers to move away from Bollywood. My friend started an alternative Indian film festival in London. This was their 4th year, but they are still struggling to get the punters in due to that ingrained image of what Indian films are, though the festival is getting bigger every year. they are getting a lot of cooperation from the film makers, but they have to throw in a Bollywood name eg this year they had Karan Johar debut his latest film with them and that drew the crowds, so with time, they will gain a lot of visibility for their other films and for the festival.

        I am currently working my way through a list of Middle Eastern films. I just saw THE BAND’S VISIT which is a sweet adorable film.

      • Claudia says:

        Bijlee: I’ve watched some K-dramas too, although I can only claim to have finished a few. I watched Painter in the Wind, Mary Stayed Up All Night, Boys Over Flowers, Playful Kiss, and some others. I don’t think I would recommend any of them ;) . I will give your recommendations a try though! LAK, I’m not very familiar with Indian or Middle Eastern cinema so I’ll definitely be adding those movies to my list!

    • Apsutter says:

      This is one reason why I adore Netflix! It has such a huge volume of really great foreign and old films. Whenever people complain about there being “nothing to watch” on Netflix I want to shake them because there are thousands of great titles on there but these are typically the people who wouldn’t deign to sit through subtitles. I love all of the foreign horror movies too because they have such different tones than American ones.

      • mslewis says:

        Netflix rocks!! I’ve seen so many great foreign movies that I never would have even heard of if not for browsing through Netflix and giving them a try. There are some really interesting movies out there. People tell me they can’t watch movies with subtitles but once you get used to it, it’s easy.

        I think I’ll spend the rest of this evening finding the movies Claudia listed. Thanks, girl.

      • Becky says:

        While some people may be bothered by the idea of having to read subtitles, I don’t think it’s fair to say the it is the reason some people are less likely to give foreign movies a chance. It makes Americans seem so ignorant. There are many others factors that contribute to this, such as difference in pacing and style, unknown actors/ directors/ etc (how many films peaked your interest because of who was involved in the production?), less word of mouth recommendations due to limited distribution… Language is one of many factors, but blaming it on the hassle of reading subtitles is a little simplistic. I do however have to agree that when I watch a movie with subtitles in a language that I understand I tend to think about how much is lost in the translation. city of God is a great example. So much is lost on terms of slang and accents that add so much information to the characters, like their socio economic background and other cultural nuances. A lot of humor is lost too. To be fair, the translators responsible for making subtitles have to deal with insane time and space restrictions.

      • Claudia says:

        I genuinely think subtitles IS the biggest factor. If people enjoy the non-blockbusters or the smaller indie films here, then there you have the different pacing and style and so on that’s seen in so many foreign movies. It’s really not that different at all. Bollywood is an exception, of course, because of alllll those musical numbers ;) . Also, if people are turned off because of styling/pacing/etc.– how would they know if they never give those films a chance? And how could they extend that dislike across an entire country or region’s films, or across the cinema of various countries/regions? It doesn’t make sense beyond the subtitle argument.

        I’m going to highly recommend a few Brazilian movies, which you can find on youtube in its entirety (no “part 1″, “part 2″, etc.) and with English subtitles: Elite Squad and Elite Squad: The Enemy Within (the titles might be under “Tropa de Elite”). The director considers those movies to be part of a trilogy, the first part being his documentary Bus 174 (Elite Squad 1 & 2 are not documentaries). For those of you who are interested, the social commentary focuses on the poor [Bus 174], the police [Elite Squad], and the political system [Elite Squad: The Enemy Within]. These have the intense action-thriller feel of good American movies, but so many people have been put off just by the subtitles. It’s a real shame.

  30. Camille (TheOriginal) says:

    Love her. That is all. :)

  31. Isabelle says:

    Tilda, the Goddess of Hollywood. I would watch anything she’s in, she’s pure perfection in my eyes. …and fark Harvey, he’s a pig on two legs.

  32. Leni says:

    Tilda, are you wearing anything under that coat? I hope so dear because you look as if you should be somewhere cold. Love the color, hate the dress/coat.

  33. Em' says:

    I was at the premiere saturday.
    Two things : the movie is awesome just as it is and Tilda Swinton is the best.

    I don’t see how HW could cut the movie. Every piece of it has its purpose. And quite frankly, even thought it began super late I didn’t find it long at all. It really takes you in from the beggining to the hand. I think I haven’t closed my mouth during the entire last hour of the movie.
    And if the 10 mn long standing ovation is any indication I wasn’t the only one to love it

    And Tilda was awesome. She wouldn’t stand up without the rest of the cast and crew. Then the went thank and hug of all them.
    She’s the best. And she is really beautiful and impressive from up close

  34. eliza says:

    Weinstein is the quintessential Hollywood asshole. He is a filthy pig who buys most of the Oscars any young actress has won in the past 20 yrs. He treats people awfully if you are to believe most of what is printed. He is a bully and someone who thinks he not only runs Hollywood but Washington as well. God help those who cross him, and that is why Tilda is even more awesome for speaking her mom make mind. If more people stood up to Weinstein it would be fabulous.

  35. Becky says:

    A lot of Weinstein hate here. Despite his reputation in terms of his character, I would hate to think of how many movies might never have happened if Harvey had chosen another profession. Can we just be grateful that he chose Hollywood over politics? He is one shrewd business man.

    • Kristin says:

      Personally I don’t think there’s much difference between Hollywood and politics. Everything is bought and paid for, quantified and collated down to the last penny, pound, and franc. And Harvey is sure as hell no artist or “visionary”. He’s little more than a suit, which basically means he just buys shit all day long. And bitches at the true artists who dare try to present a project to him that isn’t written in crayon.

      Remember “Shitspeare”, oops my bad, “Shakespeare in Love”? “Saving Private Ryan” was a FAR superior film and was pretty much a lock for best picture until Weinstein threw a shitload of money at round-the-hour advertising in the weeks leading up to the Oscars and, wow geewiz, guess who won the Oscar?! If his movies actually EARNED their accolades, instead of being bought and paid for, I might despite the a-hole a little less.

  36. RHONYC says:


    THE TILDANATOR = 1,000,000!!! :lol: