Radar Online has a videotaped argument between Octomom Nadya Suleman and her mom, Angela, who is the primary caregiver to Nadya’s six older children. Nadya keeps telling her mother to “move on” from the fact that she decided to have all 6-8 embryos implanted (she says it was 6, but the chance that 2 divided into twins seems unlikely), insisting that it’s over now and there’s nothing she can do about it. Nadya is haughty and defiant to her mother, who has spent the past seven years caring for her grandchildren.

The thing that I found most revealing about this interview is that Nadya continues to insist that the frozen embryos were alive as if they were already full grown babies. She uses this argument to justify having them all implanted, and acts as if destroying a bundle of cells is the same as hurting a living being:

“You use them [the embryos] or you destroy them.

“Do you know how they destroy them? They allow the cells to live and then they kill them.”

Her mother says “you had another option. Give them up for adoption… have them thawed or whatever they do and allow them to be adopted when they are little humans.”

Nadya answers, “Interesting. Who would do that? I could even fathom my idea of my own children out in the world… and you’d never know them.”

Angela said she felt sorry for the babies and “how are you going to be able to provide for them?”

Nadya looks flustered and superior, saying “I have to be able to let go of my need to control everything and accept the help that’s been offered.”

I did a little research on IVF because it amazes me that these embryos, which I assumed were one day old, are being talked about as if they were full grown babies. The embryos are up to 3-5 days old and are just a tiny bundle of cells.

So this is a woman who considers a fertilized egg of less than a week old as equal to a baby. With that kind of slippery slope thinking she must be mourning all the potential children she’s missing every time she has her monthly cycle, although considering how much she’s been pregnant that wouldn’t be often.

Many people have suggested that Suleman give her record-setting eight babies up for adoption but she couldn’t even part with some fertilized eggs of less than a week old and calls them her “babies”

Octograndmother will lose her home on March 5
US Weekly has insider information that Angela Suleman is set to lose her family’s home to foreclosure on March 5. Their insider also claims that the sperm donor for all of Nadya’s children is not the tearful guy who came forward to talk to Good Morning America yesterday, and is some other unknown guy with whom Nadya signed an agreement. The other’s guy’s name is of course not “David Solomon” as Nadya listed on her children’s birth certificates and as she has been insisting to the press.

Falsifying a birth certificate is fraud
This week’s In Touch points out that it’s fraud to list a false name on a birth certificate. Suleman could face jail time for lying about the father’s name on the official document, but it’s highly unlikely it will come to that and the issue is rarely prosecuted. They quote a lawyer who states that federal and state governments could potentially go after the father as Nadya was given state money. Lawyer Adam Sacks said “When welfare is paid, the federal and state governments can go after the father.”