Medical association complains about smoking in “He’s Not That Into You”

Two years ago, we covered a story that the Motion Picture Association of America was considering banning smoking in all but R-Rated movies, unless the person portrayed was an actual historical figure who smoked. This was based on a recommendation from the Harvard School of Public Health, and it was a controversial one that didn’t come to pass.

Some argued that there are characters who are likely to smoke and that it looks conspicuous to have them drinking but not smoking. Others thought it was a good idea as smoking shouldn’t be glamorized on screen as it was in the past. Screen legend Humphrey Bogart died at the age of 57 from lung cancer after years of making smoking look romantic on screen. Many of you thought that banning smoking in all but R films is too extreme, though, and said that friends and family were more likely to influence you than a character in a film.

Recent film He’s Just Not That Into You has come under fire from the American Medical Association for showing characters smoking. The AMA says the movie not only portrays smoking, but that it uses blatant product placement for specific brands. They’re demanding that filmmakers reveal if they were paid to include shots of the easily recognized packs. A spokesperson for American Spirit cigarettes, which are shown in the film, says that they weren’t contacted about the product placement, that they don’t condone it and that they definitely didn’t pay for it:

The American Medical Association Alliance said it intends to lodge an official complaint on Thursday with Warner Brothers and its corporate parent, Time Warner, over “disturbing images of specific cigarette brands in this youth-rated movie,” said Melissa Walthers, director of the health advocacy group’s effort to reduce teenage smoking.

Among other things, the group wants Warner publicly to certify that it received no payment for the product placement and is asking all Hollywood studios to ban filmmakers from showing specific tobacco brands in their work. “There is absolutely zero artistic justification for this,” Ms. Walthers said in a telephone interview, adding that various studies estimate that smoking in films prompts 200,000 young people annually to start smoking.

“He’s Just Not That Into You,” a PG-13 hit which has sold more than $100 million in tickets worldwide since its release on Feb. 6, does not depict anyone smoking, and there is a prominent story line placing cigarettes in a negative light. A character played by Jennifer Connelly leaves her husband (Bradley Cooper) not because he cheated on her — which he admits to her that he did — but because he lied about quitting smoking.
But there are numerous shots of Natural American Spirit Lights, easily identifiable by their bright yellow box. The alliance, the 27,000-member volunteer arm of the A.M.A., also spotted a “highly recognizable red Marlboro carton,” although a person who worked on the film disputed this.

As for the story line discouraging smoking, Ms. Walthers said, “It doesn’t really matter if the story line is negative or not in terms of the impact on kids.”

Ms. Walthers has an ally in the fight that may strike some as unusual: Santa Fe Tobacco, the maker of Natural American Spirits. “We respect artistic license, but we have to agree that our cigarettes should not be shown in films,” said Mark Smith, a spokesman for Santa Fe Tobacco. “It is something we absolutely do not condone.” He added: “We were never contacted about using our brand in this film, and we sent no product.”

“He’s Just Not That Into You” came to the studio a year ago after Time Warner ceased operating its New Line label as a stand-alone unit. As it struggled to absorb New Line projects — some of them in disarray — scrutiny of “He’s Just Not That Into You” by Warner’s standards department came later that usual in the production process, according to two studio executives who asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the matter.

The Motion Picture Association of America in May 2007 said it would consider portrayals of smoking alongside sex and violence in assessing the suitability of movies for young viewers. Meanwhile studios, under pressure from health groups, have been trying to pressure filmmakers to trim tobacco sequences from their movies, but have balked at an outright ban, citing the need for artistic license.

[From The NY Times]

I can get very sick from secondhand cigarette smoke so anything that discourages people from smoking is welcome, but I also see where filmmakers are coming from. They want to portray people accurately, and people smoke. Producer Drew Barrymore smokes, a lot of her friends are likely to smoke, including actress Jennifer Aniston, and she probably doesn’t see why she shouldn’t show that in her films. To her, it’s representative of what people she knows are doing. It’s not something she probably even thinks twice about including in a movie. Maybe she’ll be more thoughtful about it now, though.

For those of you who have seen the film, did they show smoking in a positive, negative or neutral light? How often was it shown? It sounds like they showed smoking but also discouraged it, given the quote that “It doesn’t really matter if the story line is negative or not in terms of the impact on kids.” That comes across as a little extreme from the AMA, but you understand their concern.

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  1. CandyKay says:

    I can testify that I tried smoking as a 12-year-old after seeing Stuart Copeland of the Police with a cool-looking cigarette in the video for “Don’t Stand So Close to Me.”

    Fortunately, I started with an unfiltered Lucky Strike, which is probably why I’m not a smoker today.

    But do kids copy what they see in the movies? Definitely.

  2. Lem says:

    MY take on it is people smoke in real life, to expect them not to smoke in movies is not realistic. Sometimes it helps to set the scene or tell the story.
    (i.e. Carrie single and fabulous?)
    If you take it to the point where we never see anyone smoke. Not in the restaurant, not in the office, not in front a building, in Boulder not in your car, not on T.V. not in the movies. Then you just manage to make it cooler to the kids. Anything that has to be hidden or taboo takes on much more allure for a rebellious child.

  3. barneslr says:

    Oh, goody. The thought police are out in full force again, huh?

    If it is true that just seeing someone in a movie smoke will make kids pick up the habit, then it stands to reason that kids will get fat if they see unhealthy food eaten or will become sexually promiscuous if they see movies that portray unmarried characters having sex.

    If mommy and daddy are doing a good job of parenting, then they won’t need to worry about their children being unduly influenced by movies and TV. Or-better yet-mommy and daddy could actually try parenting their kids and monitoring what they watch so that they aren’t exposed to anything inappropriate to begin with. I know that for many parents that is asking too much; I mean, TV is their babysitter and it would take too much effort to actually parent the kids themselves to begin with, but that would be ideal.

    And I assure you I am no lover of smoking. I smoked for 25 years and quit 15 months ago (yay me!)…and it was absolutely not easy. My heart breaks everytime I see a young person smoking because I know what they are setting themselves up for; if they are lucky they will just waste their money and smell really bad. If they are unlucky they will die a horrible, painful, unecessarily premature death.

  4. Lem says:

    also, what gives you (her/them) the right to decide what is or isn’t seen on the screen.
    what’s too much? beer good- booze bad? kissing good- scrogging bad?
    then you have to get into which ways it’s appropriate to teach our kids to swear and which ways we can depict killing and still set a good example. It’s all too big brother.

  5. Flour says:

    Make it realistic, I say. Yellow up their teeth, give them a smokers hack. Show the dirty ashtray full of butts, yellow up their fingers. Have incense or a candle going all the time or have the character spray something to cover the smell. Then again, an actor smoking with none of the above is just that. Acting. To say whether it will influence kids? Of course it will. What doesn’t?

  6. andy says:

    The movie sucked who cares.

  7. geronimo says:

    People smoke. It’s a film. Film’s generally try to emulate reality. Booze causes far more damage and alcohol abuse is much more prevalent on and off the screen. Shall we get rid of on-screen drinking too?

    Nipples and smoking, the two biggest contemporary threats to civilisation.

  8. Ana says:

    I don’t agree that seeing someone in a film smoking will encourage them to smoke, but it can glamorize a lethal habit.
    As far as I know, as I’ve read the book, the book doesn’t have specific ‘smoking’ characters mind you, I don’t see why smoking was necessary in the film, other than for product placement. It’s a piss poor reason to have the characters smoking.
    Tobacco companies don’t have to worry about marketing when Hollywood does it for them, and this is what leads to younger people swaying toward cigarettes because it gives the nod to smoking. Then there are celebrities who are photographed with cigarettes (sometimes the cigarettes are unlit) in passing -as long as the photographs are published around the world, and the link is made. A lot like the 21st Century version of James Dean with a smoke dangling from the mouth.
    After all, you don’t actually see the cancer until you get it decades later right?
    Cigarettes are the worst product ever invented. Even North American indigenous populations didn’t smoke in cigarette form. Nicotine is the most addictive substance, and not only that, tobacco companies add ammonia to unbind nicotine, increasing its addictive quality. I say that as a person who’s spent more of my life living as a smoker, to finally quit.
    Why isn’t cigarette smoking classified as ‘drug usage’ in a film? It ought to be. Rather than ban content in films, viewers should be given the option. One interesting tidbit, on TV shows of the Fifties and Sixties, tobacco companies sponsored many shows, and as a result, smoking/cigarettes had to be shown in a certain number of scenes.
    As for the tobacco company denying everything, they’d secretly be ecstatic about the exposure. What about SATC? As far as I can remember, smoking wasn’t a central feature in Bushnell’s book, but Carrie started her TV life as a smoker of Marlboro’s, mind you. Talk about brand placement.

  9. Anon says:

    “Make it realistic, I say. Yellow up their teeth, give them a smokers hack. Show the dirty ashtray full of butts, yellow up their fingers.”

    Excuse me? Talk about stereotypes and BROAD generalizations…i am a smoker, have been for 11 years and if you didn’t see me smoking, you’d never know i did! you make smokers sound like the modern equivalent of lepers with all this talk. just because someone is a smoker doesn’t mean that they are dirty/unclean people. some people are so ignorant i swear…

  10. sketches says:

    you barely see the character smoke, it’s mostly just referenced, and the guy who is the smoker ends up being demonized as the lyin’, cheatin’ bastard. so all in all, didn’t bother me a bit!

  11. shasha says:

    Oh, goody. The thought police are out in full force again, huh?

    If it is true that just seeing someone in a movie smoke will make kids pick up the habit, then it stands to reason that kids will get fat if they see unhealthy food eaten or will become sexually promiscuous if they see movies that portray unmarried characters having sex.


    Or be promiscuous or glorify guns and shoot outs…there has to be some responsibility placed on the individual and parents.

  12. maytal says:

    people wouldn’t know you’re a smoker? HA! that’s what you think! you can’t tell by now, from your nose being numb to smells, but more likely than not your clothes, hair, and personal belongings stink from it, and if anyone kisses you, they probably can tell.
    The problem with smoking, which makes me totally unsympathetic about people being discriminated against, is that it is an active invasion of other people’s air, personal space, and, ultimately, health.

  13. Wonder Woman says:

    I hate smokers but seriously this is stupid.

  14. Wonder Woman says:

    shasha: oh yes preach sista!

  15. Anon says:

    active invasion? oh yes, of course, after all the world revolves around you non-smokers and all. silly me…

    you should be ecstatic that there are still smokers in this world, after all who else would pay for your children’s school tax? the parents sure as hell can’t be bothered so i guess it falls to the smokers and with every year we get screwed just a little deeper by the government and you self-righteous folk.

    oh, and yes i stand my ground that people wouldn’t know i am a smoker, the girls in my office just realized i am after a number of years and none of them have noses that are “numbed” to the smell of smoke, you’re absurd! just because i smoke does not mean that my sense of smell has diminished at all, again just a broad generalization from a holier-than-thou non-smoker.

  16. Feebee says:

    I do think some people are swayed by what they see on film. Having said that I don’t think it’s up to film producers to make a decision on whether to show something in a positive or negative light particularly if it’s not part of the story-line per say. (Not a fan of product placement at all). In films where there are drug addicts, you might see them shooting up and it’s shot neutrally – no judgement, he’s a drug addict, he shoots up. Up to the audience to put their own spin on it. I went into “Thank You for Smoking” with a mind of hating it. I loved it and I destest smoking.

  17. maytal says:

    a) the problem with smoking is that it goes against that very wise rule of doing what you want, as long as you don’t harm others. of course, as a proud smoker for 11 years, i can’t expect you to be smart enough to understand that.
    b) why are you so proud of the fact that you can hide being a smoker? i thought you were here to deffend your little habit.
    c) keep on smoking, dear… at least we won’t have you around to nag for too long.

  18. Raven says:

    People have complained about Sharon Gless smoking on the TV show Burn Notice. Sharon smokes in real life and was thrilled that her character gets to smoke. People can pick up the smoking habit from watching their idols on screen, but I doubt any 15 year old will pick up smoking from Sharon Gless.

    I think filmmakers should be able to film what they want, but I would recommend an antismoking commercial beforehand done by a young celebrity, maybe one who has quit smoking (and really quit, not pretend to quit) or who had a close family member die of smoking. I think it should reference the film and mention that there will be smoking in the film. Even better if it could be one of the actors in the film.

  19. michellle says:

    Here’s a slippery slope.

    Shall we exclude alcohol as well as other drugs, profanity, non-marital or underage sex, etc. etc. etc…
    Good or bad, these are all facts of life.

    The question is, where does artistic censorship end? Next thing you know they’ll want to edit out the smoking in classic films, a fate worse than colorization.

    How wonderful it would be if those who are so concerned spent the same energy creating a cigarette that didn’t harm or kill…if only.

  20. geronimo says:

    @Maytal – Anon, at no point, described herself as a ‘proud’ smoker, merely pointed out, for the benefit of those apparently slow on the uptake, that smokers are not anti-social monsters and don’t conform to perceived and lazy stereotypes. If I can read that from her posts, so can you. Lose the preconceptions, they’re making you look dumb and ignorant. And your last comment was really uncalled for.

  21. maytal says:

    oh yes, my comment was totally insensitive, but sadly, that’s a reality for people who smoke. hardly a surprise in this day and age.

  22. L says:

    They didn’t show smoking at all in the film. You should edit your post because you say “Recent film He’s Just Not That Into You has come under fire from the American Medical Association for showing characters smoking.” But then you include the piece from the NY Times that clearly states ““He’s Just Not That Into You,” … does not depict anyone smoking…” And it doesn’t. It shows a shot of a cigarette pack and an ashtray with several stamped out cigarettes, found hidden by Jennifer Connelly’s character. It depicts smoking only in a negative way. It shows her upset and confronting her husband about it, her pain over her father’s death from lung cancer, and when she leaves him she leaves a carton for him on top of all his belongings with a note saying she wants a divorce. He is never shown smoking and it is a mystery until the end of the movie whether the smokes belong to him or to the workers building their new home. It turns out they belong to him, and as a sidenote his character is a big pig. The movie does not glamorize smoking one bit. Quite the opposite. And maybe you should do a better job of getting your facts straight before you incude in your post such comments as (in reference to Drew Barrymore) “she probably doesn’t see why she shouldn’t show that in her films. To her, it’s representative of what people she knows are doing. It’s not something she probably even thinks twice about including in a movie. Maybe she’ll be more thoughtful about it now, though.” Woah! Big time assumption there don’t you think? You don’t know what she thinks about smoking or in what way she percieves the smokers in her own life. And way to speculate too, how would you know if she didn’t give it a second thought or if she agonized over whether she should include the smoking aspect of the storyline? You couldn’t possibly have a clue, so why speculate about it in your post? You have the facts all screwed up and you mindlessly speculate about Drew Barrymore. The movie does not involve smoking in a casual way, so in fact a more accurate speculation would be that if Drew Barrymore did “think twice” about it, she probably considered that smoking is harmful and depicting it in such a negative way in the movie would send a message about the harmful effects of smoking on a persons life on several different levels.

  23. Ash says:

    Who are they trying to kid. People smoke. Who cares. Don’t do it, do it. It’s still going to happen. Kids will see it. Temptation will probably follow if it is banned from the movies less than R status. Oh those rebellious kids.

  24. Ellie says:

    Maytal – That comment was really vicious and totally uncalled for. I hope you don’t carry the same prejudices for other things.

  25. daisy424 says:

    I didn’t start smoking to emulate film stars.

  26. Flour says:

    @Anon having a bad day? here, have a cookie. and don’t call me ignorant, that was rude and uncalled for. everyone has their opinion, deal with ones you don’t agree with nicely. please.

  27. Jobie says:


    OMG, I’m embarassed to say I smoke now! You are the type of smoker that gets laughed at by non-smokers, and realistic smokers alike. You are not special because you smoke, you are not better than non-smokers because you smoke, you are not paying for my children’s school, YOU are an ignorant, self-sighteous fool if you think you are all that because you “think” people don’t know you smoke. DUMB! (and I’m using very choice words here) Anyone who’s proud to be a smoke is nothing short of an attention seeking looser. Anyone who justifies smoking with any other reason but the fact that they are physically addicted… is nothing short of an attention seeking loser… anyone who tries to say that the people around them dont know they smoke… well you get my point

  28. D says:

    i’m a casual smoker, and i tend to smoke more when drinking+stressed out by guys. it’s not good for me, you have to be living under a rock to think it isn’t anything but bad for you… but it’s what i do and what my friends do. it is accurate. would it be less accurate if i didn’t see Carrie or Bridget Jones smoking? or would i do it anyway? i can say i’ve been sitting at home with a bottle of wine, watching s&tc, and decided i wanted to go out for a smoke after seeing carrie light up. it may be stupid, but it’s accurate.

    i am 100% a fan of no smoking in bars. i live in Northern VA. when i go out in DC, and go to put on my jacket the next day, i am pumped when i remember not only did i not smoke, but my jacket doesn’t smell, either. at the bars in Arlington, the liklihood i’ll smoke and need to take my coat to the cleaners is… 99.1%.

    i say ban away. out of sight, out of mind.

  29. maytal says:

    Don’t worry Ellie, i don’t. Only with people that force me to breathe their toxic fumes, which, in my opinion, is worse than name calling or death reminders.

  30. Christina says:

    i exercise a lot of respect for others when i smoke… but anti-smoking bs like the one spewed by maytal make me want to put out my cigarette in their eye socket…

  31. Anon says:

    my day has been fabulous, but i will take a free cookie where i can find it Flour!

    why shouldn’t i call you ignorant, does the truth hurt dear? i thought i was quite nice considering your ridiculous suggestions about smokers and the subsequent word vomit that followed from Maytal. it is because of people like the two of you that stereotypes are perpetuated in our society, and it is sickening. i wonder what you think of Southerners, for example…are they all uneducated hicks with no teeth who screw their family members? (see what i did, like you i made a broad generalization based on an unfair stereotype!) Grow up and quit talking out of your @ss.

  32. morgs says:

    where’s syko to slap all the non-smokers down a notch?

  33. RAN says:

    Yeah, where HAS Syko been?

    I really have no comment other than about how mean this thread has gotten.

  34. Ellie says:

    Wow Maytal maybe you should hop off that high pedestal. As far as forcing you to breathe in the “toxic fumes” are you speaking about outside smokers or smoking in bars and restaurants where it is allowed? To be perfectly honest, there are such people as courteous smokers. Maybe if you are decent to them instead of speaking like you have above, they would exercise a little bit more courtesy when smoking around you.

  35. orion70 says:

    I saw the movie, and honestly I didn’t even remember the cigarette issue until I read it here. What I do remember is thinking Jennifer Connoly was a bit nutso in the cig-related scenes, but it all tied in I suppose. I was not a fan of the movie.

    As far as I’m concerned, if anyone left this film thinking “oooh goodie, a lying cheating husband was a smoker, gotta go get me some of that”…their problems are a helluva lot more than being a smoker.

    Something i enjoy about watching UK tv, is that you get to see real people who aren’t perfect, and on occasion, smoke.

    I totally understand why and how this is harmful..but equally so, I don’t understand the thinking that people should perhaps step into a rocket launcher every time they want a puff. Seriously, a lot of workplaces won’t even let you stay on the property and smoke in your own car, alone.

    BTW, i’m not a smoker, but during a particularly stressful period, I fell into it. Many many people did not know I smoked, and after finding out, I got a comment or two from friends saying how my house etc never smelled (the times I did it, I did it outdoors), even family didn’t know (and believe me, they would have said so)

  36. lrm says:

    Hey Anon;
    I don’t vote for cigarette taxes to go toward’s anything but health related costs for smokers…it’s ludicris to penalize someone to benefit someone else. makes no sense.

    BUT,my parents smoked my whole childhood-they have both since quit,and each of them has said separately how they could not understand when they smoked,why people were so bothered by it. Now,when the smell someone who smokes,in store or on the street,they nearly gag and can’t believe they ever smoked. They also are so much more intolerant of furniture,walls,etc, that have been in a smoking environment. You just can’t get it if you smoke. So those of us who don’t probably shouldn’t try to explain.
    But you know,bottom line is: My right to clean air trumps your right to smoke.
    That’s the only way to determine individual rights in this situation. Sorry,but it’s true.
    If someone is allergic,or otherwise cannot inhale fully,while you are smoking [ie,me],then you do not have the right to continue to do it around them-you are violating/threatening my right to the pursuit of life.
    It’s a bummer-but if you take a drink around me,as long as you remain sane,i can still breathe,function,live my life.

  37. NotBlonde says:

    ‘Recent film He’s Just Not That Into You has come under fire from the American Medical Association for showing characters smoking. The AMA says the movie not only portrays smoking, but that it uses blatant product placement for specific brands’

    The AMA has not seen this movie. Not only do NONE of the characters actually physically smoke (that I can remember) but the one smoker in the movie is portrayed as a lying, cheating prick. Oh yea, that makes me wanna go out and get a smoke. People are so quick to jump up and get offended. You’d think American Spirits would be more pissed because their product was shown as something someone would divorce someone over.

    As for this fight about smokers: I smoked for about 6 months. I was never addicted to it (thank goodness) and I stopped because it became more or less a pain in the butt to do it (I live in Berkeley…smokers pretty much equal baby-killers here). Why did I start? I was depressed and needed something to occupy my downtime, simple as that.

  38. maytal says:

    @Jobie and Irm:

  39. maytal says:

    and btw, to follow you example, i wouldn’t have prejudices against southerners (since noone can choose where they are born) but i will have prejudices against smokers (who choose to do so). pretty simple, no?

    if you make a choice that i disagree with, and ultimately, can affect me, i will think less of you. sorry!

  40. in vito says:

    Only with people that force me to breathe their toxic fumes, which, in my opinion, is worse than name calling or death reminders.
    maytal,what size of engine has the car you driving?!Unless someone is breathing smoke to you face,you should shut the f@@k up,cause believe me the toxic fumes from cars and factories you breath every day are far more worse than the smokers blows to the air in their privacy!Is called “law in distribution”,maybe you should have learn some physics in school.40% of pollution comes from CARS.

  41. Maritza says:

    I propose they change cigarrette smoking in movies to lollipop sucking, wouldn’t that be hoot!

  42. Codzilla says:

    I quit smoking years ago, but this thread has left me in dire need of a cigarette.

  43. kiratki says:

    I saw the movie. No one smoked in it, and the character who smoked in secret got booted by his wife for smoking and lying about it (but not for having sex with another woman). The wife’s dad died of lung cancer. I don’t think it showed anything cool about smoking. Having said that, this is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. Maybe watching it might convince kids that anything associated with this gigantic bowl of awful is worth avoiding.

  44. kiratki says:

    Except Jennifer Connelly and the guy who plays her smoker pig of a husband. They’re dreamy in real life.

  45. Lauri says:

    “i am a smoker, have been for 11 years and if you didn’t see me smoking, you’d never know i did!”

    Yes we would. I speak as a smoker of 25 years, “clean” now for 15 months. I also thought the way you did-I was (so I thought) fastidious about my smoking, and even thought people didn’t know I smoked.

    Of course, I was quite mistaken, as are you. Now that I no longer smoke, I realize just how incredibly smelly it is! I can very easily tell when someone stinks like they’ve been smoking, even if they have done all the things I used to do…brushing frequently, breath mints/strips, trying to stand downwind of the smoke so it wouldn’t blow back onto me, washing hands frequently and using scented lotions, etc…Those things help some, but you cannot eliminate the smell completely. It is in your clothes, in your hair.

    I can promise you it does not work. It just doesn’t. Trust me. Everyone can tell.

  46. Lauri says:

    “just because i smoke does not mean that my sense of smell has diminished at all”

    Oh, you really are in denial. Again, I can speak from experience. If you quit (which for the sake of your health I hope happens), I think you’ll be a little embarrassed by the stance you are taking. Your sense of smell has absolutely diminished…and once you quit you’ll be quite amazed at the difference. Really. It’s true, I promise!

  47. Jane says:

    Slap all the non smokers? Why? Because we aren’t stupid enough to rick our health for some fad?

  48. miley says:


  49. dovesgate says:

    I’m with Codzilla.

  50. CB Rawks says:

    I’m very glad I don’t smoke because by all accounts it is extremely hard to stop, and I do feel for anyone who is in the process of quitting.
    I hope they succeed, for their health.

    Whenever I find out that someone is a smoker, it lowers my estimation of their intelligence. Just because how smart can they actually be, if they choose to do that to their innards?
    But that’s only if they are the sort that say “Shmokin’s coooohl”. It doesn’t apply to people suffering terrible stress, or people who know they should quit.

  51. morgs says:

    @jane: because the non-smokers on this thread are all sounding a tad sanctimonious. And yes I’m prepared for the onslaught of words against me.

    I’m a non-smoker, but I don’t spew my opinions on it with as much hate as some on this thread have.

    And anyway, I miss Syko. She always made good points.

  52. geronimo says:

    @CB Rawks – “Whenever I find out that someone is a smoker, it lowers my estimation of their intelligence.”

    Understand the point but hope you apply this criteria to unhealthy fat people, obese people, people who drink too much also.

  53. Tia C says:

    I can guaran-damn-tee ya the cigarette makers PAID for the product placement! That is how they operate. I used to work for lawyers for a major tobacco co., and I’ve pored through boxes and boxes of documents showing movie product placement. Oh yeah, they paid. They are lying as usual. LOL, and I’m a smoker!

  54. eternalcanadian says:

    good for the AMA for dissing the movie. there’s not just second-hand but third-hand smoke. smokig is not a health benefit. it is a danger to every one. so the less we see of people glamourizing smoking, making it look cool, or using it as a reson to lose weight or whatever, the better. if you’re going to show smoking in movies that are set in today’s time, show them outside 6 metres away from the building in cold and rainy weather. show them with narsty teeth and bags under their eyes. shoe them coughing and spitting after smoking. show them being ostracized by their non-smoker family, friends, and co-workers (i.e., they’re told to go outside and smoke or told no smoking in my house or around the kids).

  55. CB Rawks says:

    “Understand the point but hope you apply this criteria to unhealthy fat people, obese people, people who drink too much also.”

    People who drink too much yes, and do drugs, yes.
    But there can be many reasons why people gain weight, some medical, so no to that one.