Phylicia Rashad on Bill Cosby: ‘Forget these women. I think it’s orchestrated’

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Over the past six months, the pile of Bill Cosby sexual allegations grew into the Mount Kilimanjaro of celebrity scandals. I appreciate how Vulture keeps a running timeline on all new (and old) developments. Throughout it all, Bill Cosby’s former Cosby Show co-stars have remained relatively silent. I don’t blame them one bit. They appeared on a show together decades ago. Most of them were children and had no idea how Cosby behaved behind closed doors. Unless they want to speak, they should be left alone — unlike Camille Cosby. I initially felt like Camille should be off limits too because she’s married to a master manipulator, but Camille has had no problem painting Bill as the victim.

One of Cosby’s co-stars took a major stance yesterday. Phylicia Rashad played the wife of Cosby’s lovable dad and OB/GYN character. She ran into journo Roger Friedman on the street and decided to engage in a righteous round of victim blaming:

Let’s make something clear. Rashad, who is one of our greatest stage actresses, has kept quiet, didn’t seek me out, and even said “I don’t want to become part of the public debate.”

But knowing this she did say to me “I love him” about Bill Cosby. She stands defiantly behind him. She told me that in the years she’s known him, she has never seen the behavior alleged by the women who say they were drugged and raped, or sexually harassed.

“Forget these women,” Rashad said. “What you’re seeing is the destruction of a legacy. And I think it’s orchestrated. I don’t know why or who’s doing it, but it’s the legacy. And it’s a legacy that is so important to the culture.”

Rashad dismisses claims from both Beverly Johnson and Janice Dickinson. “Oh, please,” she said when their names came up. She also is quick to defend Camille Cosby. “This is a tough woman, a smart woman,” she told me. “She’s no pushover.” There is no question, Rashad said, that Camille Cosby has not been complicit or looked the other way as her husband terrorized women for the last 50 years.

She said, “Someone is determined to keep Bill Cosby off TV,” alluding to people other than the women. “And it’s worked. All his contracts have been cancelled.”

We talked more about the legacy of The Cosby Show. “This show represented America to the outside world. This was the American family. And now you’re seeing it being destroyed. Why?”

She said Cosby himself is probably too proud to raise a defense. So what to do about Cosby’s accusers? Rashad feels strongly that some other force is at play — for some reason, Cosby’s great strides in education, as well as show business, are being ruined so that new generations will only remember him by this scandal. And what about a defense from the man himself? “If he spoke now, what do you think the media would do with it?” Rashad asked. And let’s face it, she’s right about that.

[From Showbiz 411]

Big sigh. According to Rashad, this has nothing at all to do with bad behavior on Cosby’s part. Rashad thinks all 30+ of Cosby accusers are only making stuff up — for fun? She truly believes that the world is out to get him. To destroy a legacy. To destroy the America family. To bring the very idea of America to its knees. Continuing to type and roll my eyes is pretty difficult, y’all.

There’s a lot wrong with what Rashad says, but it’s laughable how she thinks Cosby hasn’t defended himself. He has done so in sketchy, terrible ways. He’s digging up dirt on victims, joking and pretending to cry during his comedy routines, and trying to guilt the black media and manipulate individual journos to their faces. I’m sure he’s doing plenty of other stuff too. Rashad’s “poor Cosby” claims are ridiculous.

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  1. Talie says:

    The residual checks dried up all of a sudden — that’s why she’s out there now. Only problem is that it took her too long. I wonder if she got a check from Cosby to make up for it?

    • Abbott says:

      Very good point.

    • Kiddo says:

      My cynical mind came to the same conclusion.

    • Bridget says:

      Me too. The show’s been yanked everywhere – no one’s going to be getting any money from it anymore.

      • doofus says:

        great point…I hadn’t thought at all about how yanking the re-runs of that show would affect ALL of the actors/actresses.

    • PunkyMomma says:

      Me too. Way too long to offer up a defense. She should have done it immediately. I’m not buying it.

      • The Other Katherine says:

        Given that waiting too long to speak out is one of the criticisms frequently levied against Cosby’s alleged victims, turnabout is fair play….

    • NewWester says:

      Considering she ran into a journalist on the street doesn’t this statement seem a little too “polished” and covers every point that people have commented on for months? For a spur of the moment interview it covers everything.

    • lucy2 says:

      That’s quite interesting – all of his work being pulled has had an impact on her as well, and being associated so closely with him probably will hurt her future career. But rather than blame him, she’s victim blaming and trying to float this ridiculous conspiracy idea? Shame on her.

      I also find it interesting that this has come out as the chant of “why aren’t any of his former Cosby Show costars speaking up on this” grew louder. I bet his legal team is following coverage quite closely, and may have decided now was the time to push her to support him. It doesn’t help him at all though. It just makes her look terrible.

      • MaiGirl says:

        I agree. She played “the” successful black professional, wife, and mother on tv. She, too, is/was an icon. I hope she wasn’t paid to come forward (although I can’t eliminate the possibility), but I do think she is trying to protect her image and residuals. Also, I wonder about the timing in relation to the reactions of some of Cosby’s fans. I mean, he does have a fair amount of unquestioning support, especially among African-Americans (and I am one, and am on Black Twitter and Facebook, so I know from experience how many people still doubt the allegations, even after Beverly Johnson). I wonder if she was sitting back and checking out which way the wind was blowing in terms of public opinion, waiting for the most opportune time to “protect” her legacy.

    • phlyfiremama says:

      Bingo. Money is the only reason she is speaking up NOW. Where was she when this first started happening???

    • Sarah says:

      Yes. Bingo. She wants that show back on TV Land.

    • kibbles says:

      Yes, it is about money but also about HER legacy and maintaining the legacy of her largest work which is going down the drains. No one who believes that Cosby is really a rapist will ever be able to watch the Cosby Show the same way again. She wants people to continue to watch and love the show which she probably sees as very much a part of her history, her career, her legacy, her nest egg.

      • mernymerlyn says:

        She would maintain her legacy in my eyes if she would not dismiss these women by saying “forget those women” which pretty much translates as “f$%k those women he was on a successful TV show!”

    • BooBooLaRue says:

      + a million

    • Christo says:

      EXACTLY. FORGET THIS WOMAN.

    • Cindy says:

      ah ha! Yup. Hadn’t thought of that.

    • Byte Me says:

      I wonder who’s pulling her strings.

    • fritanga says:

      Exactly. Unfortunately, too little too late, Phylicia. His career, reputation and image are forever ruined (and with good reason). No one will ever show “The Cosby Show” again, except to demonstrate how Cosby built an image which was entirely false.

  2. aims says:

    I would expect nothing less from her. Another person covering up, slandering and dismissing the victims. Shame on her.

    • nah mean says:

      Better to be thought of as impartial than to open your mouth and proven a fool.

      • Kiddo says:

        Rashad’s statement was not impartial.

        ‘I don’t know what happened’ is a neutral/impartial statement…not “Forget these women” …”There’s an effort to destroy a legacy”. That is loaded with judgement and partiality.

      • nah mean says:

        What I meant was she was better off being silent. Her statements were foolish and reckless.

      • Kiddo says:

        Gotcha

  3. bettyrose says:

    This is heartbreaking. She didn’t have to turn on the other women to say she’d known him as a good man.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Yes. On so many levels.

    • Tateru says:

      This. Fine she wants to defend him. That’s her choice. But to demean and blame the woman accusing him? “Forget these women” Yuck.

    • M says:

      I agree! “Forget these women”…..ugh! That is so terrible & dismissive. I’d rather forget Cosby & all his bs. And, yes, people are trying to destroy a legacy, but it’s a legacy of rape & total disregard for women.

      • I Choose Me says:

        Exactly. She worked with him for years and I’m sure to her he was a stand up guy but to be so dismissive and chime in with conspiracy theories?

        I just lost all respect for her.

    • Christin says:

      And she thinks there is some kind of sudden conspiracy? That is going way beyond a simple, “I like him and personally never saw anything amiss.”

      • MaiGirl says:

        It’s so illogical that so many people are using this reasoning to explain why they think he’s innocent: they never saw anything or knew him to be abusive. Well, OF COURSE NOT! Do you think he would broadcast to her “Hey, Phyl! I just used a ruse of offering Beverly Johnson a role on our show, only to slip her a micky and try to rape her. She got away. Ain’t that ’bout a bitch?” Yeahhhhhhh, serial rapists totally do that.

        Also, at my high school, one of the drama teachers raped a 15-year-old student. I was in his class. He never tried anything with me or anyone else I knew, but I believed the girl anyway, and she wound up having evidence to back up her claims. I go by facts (most people reporting rapes are truthful) than iffy personal experience, as if people don’t have multiple facets!

      • lisa says:

        and who is she blaming it on, ISIS?

      • Christin says:

        I don’t understand why she was so blabby with the Friedman guy in this supposedly chance encounter. Was this her way of defending the ‘legacy’ of her future residual checks without issuing a formal statement? Now she can see how it plays with the public and claim he misquoted her.

        Even if she did not experience any harassment, it does not mean she knew what happened with others (including those on set).

    • lucy2 says:

      Exactly. She could easily say that’s not the man she knew, that he always treated her with respect, she never witnessed anything like that, etc. But she took it way too far insulting and dismissing the victims.

    • QQ says:

      Exactly… This one truly does Suck

    • FLORC says:

      Great point Bettyrose!
      Sadly, this is the path she chose.

    • Kate says:

      Absolutely agree. Keisha Knight Pulliam handled it the right way — “all I can speak to is the man I knew” — Good for Pulliam and her poise and grace. Poor form Rashad. Very disappointing.

      • Debbie says:

        Keisha handled it the right way. Speaking to her experience only, she also didn’t initate the statement she was asked because she was on the apprentice which filmed long before this came out.

    • db says:

      Well put. I agree.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I agree.

      It also kind of sounds like she is suggesting that if someone has contributed something to culture, the legacy and the representation of the American family, that it absolves them of being capable of doing something horrible. That someone who created something that great can’t have internal flaws, that it MUST come from external and invented sources. I am very disappointed in her words.

    • Luca76 says:

      Yup . Up until this point I had respect for the silence this is just icky and sad.

  4. annaloo. says:

    The whole thing is a terrible train wreck.. I don’t know where to look, and I don’t want to look, but I do believe the victims.

    • nan says:

      It’s very believable. Most of the victims are older women speaking out against things which happened years ago when Cosby was younger (meaning sexually active). It’s only “orchestrated” in that I think they’re spontaneously giving each other the courage to finally speak out. Phylicia misses the point because the accusations have been about something far more traumatic and scary than just married-man hanky panky. In every woman’s story that I have read, he presents his attention as being focused on helping careers. Meeting someone alone to discuss business at a hotel room or private home is risky business but in their defense, he IS a famous known person. He wasn’t some random sketchy dude, he was Bill Cosby, huge star and happily married family man. But drugging and raping? That’s not about playing around or gold-digging, as I think Phylicia thinks it must be — those are serious crimes.

  5. AlmondJoy says:

    Sigh. She should have kept quiet. I’m embarassed for her. I also feel a sense of shame for looking up to her for all these years.

      • Lama Bean says:

        Me three.
        This made me so sad bc I always saw her as such a classy woman. But then her sister Debbie Allen also stood by him so….

      • kibbles says:

        I thought that Phylicia would deliver a much classier response than this. Debbie Allen is standing by Cosby too, but I thought her response wasn’t a direct attack on the victims.

      • MaiGirl says:

        I thought that she would have just stayed silent, but this statement breaks my heart a little 🙁

    • Her and Whoopi Goldberg–I can’t even watch Corinna, Corinna without remembering how much of a nut she’s become. I used to LOVE her, I grew up on The Color Purple. And Phylicia–I always thought of her as a very classy, older woman who younger actresses could look up to.

  6. doofus says:

    and I guess now we can “forget” her.

    “orchestrated”?

    “someone wants to keep him off TV”?

    of course she never SAW it. that’s not the kind of thing he’d let get out, you dummy.

    “This show represented America to the outside world. This was the American family. And now you’re seeing it being destroyed. Why?”

    WHY? because HE DRUGGED AND RAPED A BUNCH OF WOMEN.

    and “too proud” to mount a defense? but not too proud to attempt a smear campaign AS a defense?

    she is so full of it.

    ETA: I would LOVE to see her go toe-to-toe in a debate/discussion with Beverly Johnson.

    • FLORC says:

      I would love to see her just field an open discussion on this with valid and respectable questions. Just well spoken and to the point.
      She has openly taken Cosby’s side by belittling the claims of the women. How she could write them all off so easily burns her for me.
      Wonder if she will claim racism when the backlash hits her too?

  7. kri says:

    “Forget these women”. Oh my god, she has just broken my heart. Seriously. Those words came from a woman I have admired since I was a little girl. No more.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      As if our culture needs to be told to forget the victims. Shame on her.

    • kibbles says:

      It makes me sad too. Phylicia doesn’t yet realize that she is destroying her own legacy in the process of trying to protect Cosby’s. She is either in deep denial or she cares more about maintaining the facade of the perfect family she depicted on the show than about “these women” receiving any justice.

      • Mrs. Darcy says:

        Well said all. Why is she putting this man’s “legacy” before her own good reputation and dignity? So what if she never saw it first hand, as a woman it is despicable for her to be so blankly dismissive of over 30 accounts of sexual abuse.

    • lucy2 says:

      I know. Clair Huxtable had an impact on me – a woman who was equally intelligent, educated, confident, and accomplished as her husband, raising her kids to want that for themselves too. Maybe it’s not fair to always associate Phylicia with that character, but I did – I always thought she was classy and smart and successful. But here, she has disgusted me, and shattered whatever illusions I had of her.

  8. notlistening says:

    Oh shit, I was afraid that she would say something like that.

  9. Ginger says:

    Why on Earth would there be some vast conspiracy to take down an actor/comedian? Stupid, stupid reasoning! And yes his wife is very intelligent but intelligence does not preclude one from being manipulated, especially by a long time spouse. I’ve seen PHD’s who have fallen victim to scam artists.

    • Shambles says:

      I’ve seen some previous comments point out a conspiracy theory that’s out there– basically theory is that the white higher ups are conspiring to take Cosby and his legacy down because there can be no powerful black men. Sounds exactly like what Phylicia is saying with “I believe it’s orchestrated… It’s the legacy that’s so important to the culture.” Sounds to me like she’s choosing the “white men are conspiring against Cosby because he’s black and powerful and it’s all about the oppression of black culture” route, which infuriates me. Let’s make this about race to deflect attention from the fact that she is defending a serial rapist and spitting in the faces of the women he traumatized.

      • doofus says:

        if what she was saying about “orchestration” had any basis in reality, HE NEVER WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A SHOW IN THE FIRST PLACE!

        build him up into “America’s Dad” just to tear him down 20 years later?…why not just KEEP him down? makes no sense.

      • Joy says:

        Oh my god, there is no band of evil white overlords that give a damn about this man and killing his legacy. If anything there’s white men mad that any future earnings from his old shows have dried up.

      • lucy2 says:

        Yeah if they’re trying to keep him down…they’re about 30 years too late. He had a successful standup career, the biggest show of the 80s, a successful spinoff, national product endorsements, etc. He’s already had all his success – nothing he could have done would have ever topped it, so the idea of some secret plan to bring him down NOW…it’s just laughable.

  10. Abbott says:

    Yes, Phylicia, forget these women! There’s a pudding pop legacy to protect!

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      I am sad about pudding pops. Can we enjoy them again without thinking of this creep?

  11. snowflake says:

    I feel like she is saying ( like other people), that the media is trying to take him down because of his race. if that was true, why didn’t it happen years ago? sorry, not buying it.

    • Erinn says:

      THIS.
      If they wanted to keep him off tv – wouldn’t they have tried this during his peak? I mean… it’d make a lot more sense to have done it then, right? That’s the first thing I thought of when I saw her theory. It’s not like there weren’t cases and allegations back then…

      • Lola says:

        I am a firm believer that without reading the court transcripts I pay no attention to what journalist say of court cases or the extent of interviews (victims or not). People get paid to look up info about the other side, all the time. So that is not surprising either. I have not read everything on the 13 victims (if I read correctly 13, right?) but one story I am not buying is the what’s her name model (I think Dickinson or something like that is her last name).

        For some reason, all I can think of when reading this is Paula Jones vs. Bill Clinton, and how if Jones had not filed a lawsuit, that, let’s be blunt she could not substantiate without bringing Clinton’s present and past life into the court we would have never known about Monica L. And the Clinton’s (10 years later) were talking about the conspiracy behind that case …

        Now, when it comes to the comment about wanting to keep him off TV, well, whether you are white or black if you are making money out of a show, why mess with it? So, no. I don’t think that they would have done it them, because a lot of people were probably making money out of the Cosby Show, including white males. In the end, is green the color that matters.

      • Lola says:

        I am a firm believer that without reading the court transcripts I pay no attention to what journalist say of court cases or the extent of interviews (victims or not). People get paid to look up info about the other side, all the time. So that is not surprising either. I have not read everything on the 13 victims (if I read correctly 13, right?) but one story I am not buying is the what’s her name model (I think Dickinson or something like that is her last name).

        For some reason, all I can think of when reading this is Paula Jones vs. Bill Clinton, and how if Jones had not filed a lawsuit, that, let’s be blunt she could not substantiate without bringing Clinton’s present and past life into the court we would have never known about Monica L. And the Clinton’s (10 years later) were talking about the conspiracy behind that case …

        Now, when it comes to the comment about wanting to keep him off TV, well, whether you are white or black if you are making money out of a show, why mess with it? So, no. I don’t think that they would have done it then, because a lot of people were probably making money out of the Cosby Show, including white males. In the end, is green the color that matters.

  12. Pandy says:

    What legacy? TV shows? And a safe stand up act? Blah.

  13. Kitten says:

    Huge huge sigh.

    And of course, Phylicia wouldn’t know that side of Bill Cosby, because he would never go after a well-bred, hugely respected, highly educated woman with an established Broadway career. Rashad was a successful woman in her own right and didn’t need Bill’s help for sh*t.

    Cosby’s rapes were based on a power trip-he specifically targeted women who were in a position of needing him or his influence to help them with their careers.

    • AlmondJoy says:

      Thank you. This is exactly what I was trying to explain to my husband. You put it perfectly.

    • M says:

      Yep! He had an mo that, sadly, worked for decades. I always loved & admired her on the show while I was growing up (a powerful attorney that worked outside the home and a loving mother). Well she just took a big poop on her legacy!

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Yes. Because all rapists make sure their coworkers are aware of their sickness. It helps their careers. So she would definitely have known about it if it were true. For God’s sake.

      • M says:

        GNAT- I don’t think she knew of him as a perp but she should have worded her defense differently. Other people have said “that’s not the Bill Cosby I knew”- bingo! They wouldn’t know since he didn’t target certain women & there is nothing wrong with that defense (IMO). But to dismiss these women & say they are all definitely liars & “forget them” is so wrong. People have many sides & just because you work with a man whose wonderful doesn’t mean he is not a rapist/abuser after hours. Phylicia’s smarter then that (I thought). This is how I took Kittens comment.

      • M says:

        GNAT- I misread your comment and so did not respond appropriately. I thought your comment was directed at commenters & not PR. Whoops! I should have known since I’ve read your thoughtful comments before- sorry!

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        That’s ok M, glad you worked it out. I was being sarcastic, so I see how it was unclear.

    • Christin says:

      She also had a significant other at the time. His alleged MO was to target women without a strong family or companion.

      • lisa says:

        and wasnt he a football player? like cosby was gonna mess with that

      • Christin says:

        I think he was a former player turned broadcaster. He was fairly well known at the time.

      • Kitten says:

        Ahmad Rashad? Yeah, he was a HUGE sports personality in the ’80s and ’90s, almost as famous as Phylicia.

      • D says:

        Bill Cosby made some weird comments about Phylicia & her husband.

        Cosby on how her pregnancy ruined their onscreen chemistry:

        “Ahmad Rashad messed up that thing. When he married her I didn’t mind, but then she got pregnant and I didn’t want Cliff and Clair to have another kid. So we had to hide her body, which took me away from — took Cliff away from – touching her and playing with her because I didn’t want the audience to see that. So when that season was over, and she went on and had the child, it was gone. Not the love for her, but it was gone in terms of, now we have to get back to the touchy – I just lost it.”

      • GingerCrunch says:

        Ugh. This quote from Cosby. In earlier times, I’d have thought he was just an out-of-touch old guy, but now reading that-it’s chilling. Psychopath.

      • Citresse says:

        Christin and lisa, excellent points.
        The ultra annoying Kathie Lee Gifford said initially she didn’t see or experience anything untoward with Cosby, then she changed her tune a bit later and said he tried to kiss her.
        And at that time she wasn’t involved with Gifford. You can bet Cosby would stay away if Gifford was around.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Cosby was the one who introduced them.

        People, December 16, 1985
        Sportscaster Ahmad Rashad Scores with a Televised Proposal to Cosby’s Phylicia Ayers-Allen

        “Cosby, who introduced the two about a year ago, may give the bride away, although the bride’s 12-year-old son, William, is in contention.”

        “It was Rashad who asked Cosby for the introduction. Cosby, says Ayers-Allen, told her his friend Rashad was looking for a nice young lady. She had never heard of the guy. “I said, ‘To do what with?’ Bill said, ‘To take to dinner.’ ” He escorted her to the People’s Choice Awards in Hollywood and so began their dating game.”

    • I Choose Me says:

      Well said Kitten, as usual.

      Her comment seriously depresses me. Sigh. We have such a long way to go.

    • noway says:

      I actually knew a woman who married a man who went out and raped numerous woman, and was finally arrested. She never knew during any of it. When she found out it took her a while to believe it, and many more years to move on with her life. I think it is likely that Cosby didn’t show this to any of his co-workers. Do you honestly know everything about everyone you work with? I doubt it. The reality and many law officials will tell you is that sexual predators can seem perfectly normal to some people and not to their victims. They are not monsters that you see this is why they are so successful at luring victims.

      I liked the way Keisha Knight Pulliam spoke about it, and she still received some backlash which to me is sad. The people that know Cosby are entitled to their opinion just as all of you who do not know any of these people are entitled to yours. I believe that to her as a child she most likely didn’t know anything about Cosby other than her interaction, and she loved him. Rashad words are really poorly chosen even if you believe in Cosby. Forget these women seems really harsh to me, and I wish she had spoken more like Keisha because I could understand that.

      I think this is sad for everyone, and I am so happy that some of the women are suing for defamation. I think a day in court to present all the facts as opposed to just in the media will help them.

      • M says:

        Yes! I hate hearing “he was such a nice guy….he couldn’t have hit his wife!” (Says neighbor). People have many sides & we shouldn’t dismiss a victim because we were lucky to have not known the evil side of a person. Psychopaths are commonly the best people on the outside. I do hope these events shed light on this fact.

    • kibbles says:

      Exactly. There are plenty of convicted rapists and serial killers who were loving husbands and fathers but went out and attacked women they viewed to be less worthy of respect. It’s the Madonna/Whore complex that so many men have. There are definitely a ton of men in Hollywood who respect their mom, wife, daughter, well educated colleagues, but go out and attack prostitutes, aspiring actresses and models, and other vulnerable women who are seen as nothing more than just sex toys who can be abused and exploited.

  14. Frida_K says:

    Ouch.

    That’s all I’ve got: ouch.

  15. Gina says:

    Uh oh, somebody is worried about those residuals. Perhaps she considers the Cosby Show a “legacy.” I just see it as another sitcom of the 80’s. Loved Rudy tho, lol. I guess every pretender has a defender, but she looks foolish and should go back to doing whatever it is she does…besides waiting for those checks.

  16. Joy says:

    I just recently left a job in mental health where I worked with kids and teens. Of course I often had to deal with parents too. The general public is shocked by victim blaming, but sadly, that’s the norm. Whether it’s people not believing their kid was molested, or people saying things like “well he just molested you it’s not like you were raped” or “you just need to let this go, he said he’s sorry” or of COURSE “you were always a flirtatious child what did you think was going to happen?” I heard all this and more over the years, and I’m not going to lie, sometimes I got REALLY unprofessional with people who said this crap. I couldn’t help myself, and I don’t regret telling them to shut their stupid faces. Bottom line, people want sexual assault to go away at any cost. Even if that means turning a blind eye, minimizing, pretending it never happened, etc. It’s just human nature and it sucks donkey balls. Thank god I’ve changed jobs, because that mess will make you take a hostage.

    • M says:

      + 1000! I had to leave the mental health field (worked with abusive men for years) for my own sanity. It is the norm to victim blame & that needs to change.

      • Joy says:

        I think if the general public knew how bad it was they would be really shocked. I’ve known women to be waiting to pick their husband up from prison release after they did time for molesting their own kids. Well he says he’s sorry, he won’t do it again, and so on.

      • M says:

        I agree Joy & people would be shocked to hear the dumb excuses perps cook up & then others believe them to keep their norm!!! I understand not wanting to believe that your partner, friend, child is a perp but it’s amazing what people will say or do to keep up the life they are used to living & sweep things under the rug. Including having others at risk. So sad 🙁

  17. Sister Carrie says:

    smh
    my eyes have gone rolled out the door . . .

  18. OhDear says:

    * shakes head, sighs, rubs temples *

  19. Ivy says:

    Stupid comments, fur coats and too much botox… What a class act!

    • Citresse says:

      …don’t forget the muumuus… yeah, nice muumuu, you’ll need something a lot bigger to cover your Rashass soon.

  20. FingerBinger says:

    What took her so long to defend him? I knew that she would.

    • Amy says:

      Same. I know a lot of posters thought that the Cosby show actors and actresses not speaking up was evidence of his guilt, but tbh they’ve always seemed like a professional intelligent bunch. Which is to say over the years none of them have gotten loose-lipped or sloppy with the press.. I always assumed that they probably would defend him but didn’t want to become part of the issue if they could avoid it.

      It’s sad for the women that’s for sure.

  21. Bridget says:

    Clearly whoever is trying to take down Cosby has been in it for the long haul, considering that some of these allegations have been around for many years. And we all know that if you don’t see something personally that it can’t possibly exist otherwise.

  22. M says:

    Wow, just wow! She said he was “too proud to raise a defense”?!?! That is the stupidest comment I’ve ever heard & she must not know Cosby at all. He has never, ever been too proud to spew his crap, insult black men, throw his own daughter under the bus & defend himself. Wow- way to convince yourself of total bs to keep your little fantasy (or residual pay checks coming in…..). She sucks!

  23. Brandia says:

    Now that the silence of his costars is not so “deafening,” I wonder if their words will even matter, now that the masses have made up their minds…
    In my life I’ve personally witnessed “good” men do very bad things; but I’ve witnessed the bandwagon effect just as much.

  24. Blythe says:

    This is a weird situation, inside and out. I really don’t know what to say. More women will step forward and make more allegations. It’s, like, two to three women per week with this. It all seems a bit odd, that’s all. I’m not saying these women are lying, but something is being cooked up to taint Cosby’s image. The fashion and timing these women are coming forward in … It makes me think.

    • doofus says:

      “I’m not saying these women are lying, but something is being cooked up to taint Cosby’s image.”

      oh, you’re “not saying”, you’re “just sayin'”…with that statement, you ARE saying they’re lying.

      if you TRULY believe this, surely you have a thought as to who and why?… I keep seeing this “defense” offered up with no explanation of WHO would want to do this and what their motivation is.

      who, exactly, benefits from this? please, elaborate. otherwise, it’s just yet another empty victim-blaming “defense” that makes zero sense.

      • Blythe says:

        Elaborate? I just stated that I don’t even know what to say! I don’t even know how to really feel about this situation and now, you want an elaboration? That’s not fair. I’m allowed to question. I’m allowed to suspect. I don’t know all of the answers. I can’t tell you who (or what) could be behind this. I don’t know who would benefit from this. At the end of the day, this is a feeling I have. I didn’t blame, nor did I defend anyone. I didn’t say anyone was lying. I didn’t say Bill Cosby was telling the truth. I have the right to speculate. Phylicia is in the wrong because she’s completely outruling these women’s allegations. That’s not fair to them. Bill, the man and Bill, the actor could be two completely different people and she’s not even considering that. Your experiences working with Bill could be totally different from what another woman has experienced. She can speculate, just like me, but to “forget these women” is dead wrong. Around thirty women are all claiming the same thing about the same man and you think they’re all lying? I don’t think so.

      • Kitten says:

        I hear you, Blythe, but the fact that *some* women *may* be trying to cash in is ultimately immaterial when weighed against the gravity of the accusations leveled against this guy.

        Whether it’s four victims or forty victims is not relevant, because one woman claiming that he raped her is already one too many. It’s simply a matter of odds–when there are more women claiming he raped them, it lends more credence to their claims–it’s a power in numbers thing, and in that sense it works in their favor.

        I respect your stance, and I understand that you absolutely have the right to speculate, but I think in the end the speculation does the victims a huge disservice and only helps Cosby, because the fact that some people still doubt, speculate, or think these women are out-right lying is all that Cosby has left. His entire career (well, what’s left of it) is hinging upon the public’s uncertainty or disbelief.

        That’s why I choose to believe every one of these women, because the alternative means supporting Cosby on some level.

      • doofus says:

        Blythe, you stated that you think something is being “cooked up” to taint his image.

        by extension, that means you think there is some sort of conspiracy to take him down (or “taint” him, as you said).

        I asked for you to elaborate because that makes no sense. WHO would benefit? why now? these allegations have been around for decades. again, if you truly believe that there is a conspiracy, I would surely think you have a theory as to who and why. otherwise, a general “they’re out to get him” makes no sense. “they” who?

        as you wrote ” I don’t know who would benefit from this.” Exactly. no one does. so your theory of something being “cooked up” holds no water. if you can’t come up with a “who” and “why”, why would you believe (sorry, “suspect”) that it’s a orchestrated campaign?

        As Kitten said, speculating undermines the victims’ claims and helps Cosby. THAT is why you got the reaction you got from me. there have been a lot of posters who have done exactly as you have and it was done as a subtle defense of Cosby in the guise of “I’m jus’ sayin’…”

        If your intent was not to defend, I apologize…but that’s really how it came off.

      • Blythe says:

        Thank you, Kitten. I completely understand where you’re coming from. Ultimately, I am a confused bystander. I do love Bill Cosby and as a supporter of him for the little amount of years I’ve been alive, my first instinct is to speculate.

        I still don’t know how to feel. It’s hard to publicly support Bill Cosby without coming off as being anti-woman. Is it fair to dismiss all the good things he’s given to the world because of this? I don’t think it’s fair. Does his entire legacy go in the trash because of this? I’m just not okay with that idea. I believe these women and I sympathize with them, but this is not his legacy. The media is trying to make this his existence – being an undercover rapist – and no matter how much I’ll get dragged for this, I don’t support that.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Blythe, you have a right to question anything you want to, but I have to disagree with the conclusion I think you are drawing – that even if this is true, it doesn’t undo the good he has done. Forgive me if that’s not what you meant. But if this is true, and I believe it is, his legacy is a lie. He’s not the person he was pretending to be. He’s evil and has done damage to multiple women that they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. (Though as Kitten says, one woman is too many.) The person we thought he was wouldn’t do what he has done. That person never existed. So it’s not as though we are consciously throwing his image in the trash. It’s more like his image has evaporated into thin air because it was never real. And that’s all on him.

      • Blythe says:

        GNAT, I get you. I’m still not ready to say that I’m a Cosby sympathizer, but since I’m merely speculating, I’m already getting that title. The timing of everything … Everything seems a bit orchestrated. I didn’t hear about any allegations or new women over the holidays and when the first Hump day of the new year comes around, three new women are introduced, together, and are making new allegations. That doesn’t seem suspicious to you? Will no one question it at all and give Cosby the benefit of the doubt?

      • Kitten says:

        @ Blythe-I completely get it. I was a huge HUGE fan of Cosby. Hell, some of my happiest childhood memories were listening to his comedy (on cassette tape no less) while on family trips and reciting every line, or getting ready to watch The Cosby Show with a glass of milk and graham crackers. I very VERY badly wanted this to not be true–but there’s a point where you have to get real about it.
        As others have said, people are complicated, with a myriad of facets, many of which are selectively shown to people.

        You don’t have to choose, though. You can appreciate what Cosby has accomplished for the community while still seeing that he is a very troubled and sick man.

        I think the internal struggle stems the problematic issue of the public’s need to canonize celebrities based on their public persona, instead of recognizing that at the end of the day, they’re still fallible, imperfect humans that are ultimately perfect strangers to us. As much as we feel like we know them, we just don’t.

        So you can look at Cosby’s accomplishments and appreciate them while still acknowledging that deep down, he may very well be a misogynist, or at least someone who doesn’t think women are worth all that much. Or you can choose to believe that he was a great man and these women are all liars, but all I’m saying is that if you feel conflicted, you don’t have to, ya know?

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Blythe – Yes, I think you made it clear that you are not saying they are lying, you just find it all sort of odd with an avalanche/ witch-huntish vibe. I think the rumors and accusations have been trickling out for years, and he has even had to address one or two with settlements, etc., but then a couple of things changed. He’s still powerful, but maybe not as much as he once was. The climate in our country has changed a little (not enough for me) to where women will not be silenced or shamed anymore about being victims of sexual assault. Some walls have come down about sexual assault and child abuse – people used to literally not believe it happened, or happened to “nice” people, and now even the most ostrich-like among us have had to accept that it does happen. A lot. So I think one woman got up the guts to accuse him and use her name, then a few more, then more. It doesn’t seem suspicious to me that it happened that way. It seems far more unlikely that it was some big conspiracy to discredit an aging tv star. I just can’t buy into that.

    • lucy2 says:

      Consider that many of these women have tried to speak out on the assaults for years, decades even, but have been consistently hushed up by a very wealthy, very famous man and his very high powered attorneys, and currently his high powered investigators looking for dirt on the accusers.
      Also consider that many victims of such abuse and assault don’t tell anyone, or don’t want to come forward publicly, but maybe, upon seeing others take the first brave step to stand up to him, felt empowered enough to add their story and support their fellow victims. It’s also the first time the public tide has really turned against Cosby, and that people are willing to believe he did these things.

    • littlestar says:

      Are you kidding me? What do any of these women have to gain by coming forward about what Cosby did to them??? Why would they lie about something like that? It definitely can’t be fame or money, because none of that is happening for any of those poor women. If someone is “cooking” something about Cosby, who do you think it is then? WHY are they “cooking” something about? He’s an OLD MAN, who quite frankly seems to be senile. What does anyone have to gain by destroying his legacy? Seriously? What?

      Edited to add: I think so many women are coming forward the past couple of months because there is power in numbers. They probably feel much safer knowing that there are other women out there coming forward who have experienced the same thing as them and they feel like maybe NOW they will finally be believed. Can 30+ women from all walks of life and backgrounds and ages really be coerced into lying about Cosby?

      • Blythe says:

        I sense a lot of bewilderment, and a tad bit of anger in your comment. That’s not my problem. I don’t have the answers to everything and I’m going based off of what I’ve read, heard, and watched from these women and from information given about similar situations decades ago. You don’t see me asking you about why you feel the way you do. You’re going along with the popular opinion that Bill has raped/attempted to rape thirty-something women. That’s fine. I want to ask more questions. Don’t berate me because of it.

      • littlestar says:

        I apologize if I came off as berating you. I didn’t intend to do that. Yes, I was most definitely bewildered by your comment when you said that the timing of the women coming forward makes you questions things. I am genuinely curious why anyone would question that when it seems so obvious why so many women are coming forward now. People saying something as simple as saying they are questioning the timing sounds like victim blaming to me, like the women are somehow in the wrong. And really, just because I feel the way I do about Bill Cosby doesn’t mean I’m just going along with the “popular opinion”. I have actually disliked him for quite a while, as I have seen him on talk shows where he has acted very off/unpleasant. Basically I found him to be weird, and not in a good way. Perhaps these rape allegations just help cement my opinion of him. I understand not jumping to conclusions when we really don’t know everything, but in this case I’m going to side with the dozens of women who have come forward.

        And because this is a comment/discussion board, I don’t see anything wrong with questioning people as to why they think the way they do, especially when they say it in a public forum. Just like you have the right to ask more questions, so do I. It is always interesting to find out why other people think the way they do.

    • Little Darling says:

      Bky

    • Little Darling says:

      Blythe~ I think the fact that is being forgotten is that none of these women initially brought it up. Hannibal Buress Mentioned it in his comedy sketch, which then prompted One woman to retell her story, which then led to all of these women, one by one, to come forward. By your theory that something is being “cooked up” that would mean that these women, or at the very least the FIRST woman, would have to been in cahoots with Buress, had him agree to adding the statement about Cosby into the routine, just so she could be waiting in the wings for her big plan to be unveiled.

    • Racer says:

      I agree with you. Logically it makes sense to stay in the gray area until more or all the facts are presented. The allegations against him are suspect and the multitude of women with the exact same story is suspect. And lets not be naive to think that no female in the history of life has ever made dishonest accusations and on the same point men in power have the means to cover inappropriate behavior.

      Phyllicia’s comment is unfortunate because she discredits the accusers and tosses out a conspiracy theory without tangible evidence.

    • Blythe says:

      Three women, today, will be holding a press conference with Gloria Allred about their alleged experiences with Cosby. That doesn’t seem fishy to anyone, or is it just me? These women know each other. They’re talking to each other. No one wants to question that? Since we’re talking about theories that hold no water, why are we rushing to believe thirty-something women, with nothing but their word, were raped/sexually assaulted Cosby? I’m not saying that we shouldn’t believe them, but what evidence do they have? Because they said it and because “they have nothing to lose”, we should automatically believe them? Because a wealthy and powerful man, like Cosby (in his prime) could do such a thing means that he probably did it? I support and love women, as a woman, but I’m looking at both sides of the equation.

      • littlestar says:

        I don’t necessarily think it’s fishy that they have Gloria Allred as their lawyer (like they are all conspiring), but I will say I do question their decision making in hiring her. I questioned that when they first announced that late last year. I don’t know how good of a lawyer Allred is, but I do think that she seems to enjoy the spotlight/stick her nose in things that have a lot of media attention on them. However, that doesn’t make me question the women’s allegations against Bill Cosby. It mostly makes me think that Allred is a so-called “ambulance chaser”, and that she’s not only in it for the women involved, but that she’s also in it for herself. I think if they wanted to hire a lawyer to press for some kind of lawsuit/charges, they should have picked a less attention seeking candidate.

        Also edited to add: The Cosby case has a lot of similarities to the Gomeshi case here in Canada (if you are familiar with the Jian Gomeshi scandal at all), and also interesting that they came out around the same time last year. Again in that instance, I believe the women who came forward about Gomeshi abusing them. With the Gomeshi case, he was charged by the Toronto Police, so he will get the chance to go to court to actually defend himself.

      • littlestar says:

        I also have to add that in the case of rape victims, where there is no physical evidence, yes. Sometimes all we have is their word and that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t believe them because of that.

      • Blythe says:

        And it doesn’t mean that we should believe them either. You have to look at both sides. Is it not possible that a woman could lie about being sexually assaulted? Why has that possibility been dismissed? Every time a woman claims she’s been raped and doesn’t give any evidence, we still owe it to her to believe her (because no woman would ever lie about such a horrific event)?

        I’m not trying to be condescending either. I genuinely want to know what your take on this is.

      • mindydopple says:

        What exactly is “fishy” about it? It seems we needed someone credible like Beverly Johnson to speak up so badly because of this. She has a lot to lose by sharing her Cosby story. Lord knows what he would have done to her had she not fought back, do you also think her story is fishy?

      • Kitten says:

        Blythe-unless you have a deep understanding how rape victims are consistently shamed into silence, then you won’t ever understand why women now feel empowered to come forward now–it goes back to the strength in numbers thing that I talked about above.

        Also you need to understand that the first allegation against Cosby surfaced almost a decade ago and the incident that the victim described happened in the 1970s. You make it sound as if it’s just coming to light now, and that’s simply not the truth. The fact that it was swept under the rug back then tells you everything you need to know about Cosby’s power and influence.

        I think a lot of us are genuinely baffled that you seem to put the onus on the victim to “prove” that she was raped. It’s not a fun thing to admit that you’ve been raped, on the contrary it’s horrifying and shameful and embarrassing.

        Maybe these women didn’t come forward because they knew people like you wouldn’t take their word for it?

        Shockingly, the Philly police department’s list of reasons that rape cases would be classified as false also includes instances in which the victim has a history of mental illness and reports a rape by a celebrity. In the case of Roethlisberger’s first accuser, her mental health records and his fame would have been grounds enough to dismiss her case.

        http://msmagazine.com/blog/2011/04/07/do-women-lie-about-rape/

      • snowflake says:

        @ Blythe
        Do you really think all those women are lying? Ok, I give you some are in it for the money and are full of it. but why would janice dickenson and beverly johnson come forward with lies? Janice’s behavior and substance abuse problems line up nicely with sexual abuse history. As does her plastic surgery issues, she clearly has low self-esteem.

        when i was gang-raped, I didn’t tell anybody for a long time. I wanted to forget it. And I knew if I told people, a lot wouldn’t believe me. and I didn’t want to go through reliving it again. It wasn’t until years later that I could open up about it. and when someone told someone in authority that it was actually rape, then I had people calling me a whore. WHEN I WAS RAPED and they had heard it was not willingly done? who in their right mind would willingly go through that s*t for a measly paycheck?

        Who would subject themselves to the scrutiny and judgement of people who believe you are trying to take down the beloved Bill Cosby? And the digging up of your sexual past, which we all know happens to someone who claims rape. As if you can’t be promiscious and be raped. no still means no. but like someone else mentioned, there’s the Madonna/Whore complex that still exists. men have respect for “good girls” and think it’s ok to treat “bad girls” like crap. why do you think prostitutes risk their lives when they sell their body? because some effed up men think because they sell their body, they are damaged goods and can treat these women however they want. Just like that one reporter that asked the one woman who was forced to give a bj, why didn’t you just bite it? Idiots like that I guess think once she bites his penis, he’s gonna let her go. gmafb. that are a lot more factors involved in sexual abuse than simply the use of force. and lots of reasons why people don’t come forward with the truth. But I do give you props for having the balls to disagree with the majority opinion, everyone has the right to express theirs. and i hope I don’t sound too harsh on you, but obviously i have some strong opinions on it.

      • littlestar says:

        Everything Kitten said. The fact that many expect the women to prove that they are telling the truth, well, why aren’t we asking the same thing from Cosby? Shouldn’t he also prove that he didn’t drug and rape those women?

        Sure it is possible that some of the women could be lying. But people have stated on here time and time again that the statistics show that only 2% of rape cases were proven to be false. So even if 2% of the Cosby accusers are lying, there is still a great many of them telling the truth. Let’s also look at other cases. How many instances have their been of women coming forward accusing other famous men of drugging and raping them, and in such large numbers? My brain is pretty foggy today due to being sick, but I cannot think of one. Maybe someone else can provide an example. Basically I am trying to say is that it seems unlikely that dozens of women are going to come forward with rape allegations just to ruin a man’s reputation for nothing. Because it is a legitimate question, what do they have to gain from it?

      • doofus says:

        “Because they said it and because “they have nothing to lose”, we should automatically believe them?”

        no, Blythe, it’s because they have nothing to GAIN (except people ridiculing them, slut-shaming them, calling them liars, etc).

        you’re clearly implying they have some sort of ulterior motive other than the truth…what do you think that is? what is their motivation other than some sort of justice? They’ve said they don’t want a payout from him, just for him to admit what he did. as so many have said, it’s painful and shameful and embarrassing to admit you were raped. Unlike what some conservative politicians say, it’s not a “coveted status that confers privileges”. IT SUCKS. Too many of us on here speak from experience.

        it’s funny, you keep saying that you’re not defending Cosby, and that you’re not saying that the women are lying, yet EVERY post you’ve made on this thread pretty much does exactly that.

      • tarheel says:

        Gloria Allred is an excellent attorney, and her law firm is also known for their excellent work with women and children, quite a bit of it pro bono. Allred has fought vigorously for women and children’s legal rights for almost half a century.

        I don’t care if she likes the camera, because the work she does away from it is excellent.

      • enike says:

        I think these women may GAIN financial settlement out of this…. What do you think, how this all would end? Cosby going to prison or the women getting money? Or both?
        Sorry, but it´s nothing new to accuse some public figure to gain money or fame (let´s face it, Janice Dickinson has nothing to lose, her reputation is already bad, but she may gain some money….)

      • doofus says:

        enike, what, then, is Beverly Johnson’s reason for coming forward?

        she’s black (so not a race thing), she’s rich (from her modeling days) and is already famous (see “modeling”, and she was one of the first black supermodels)…so what’s her motivation?…

        nothing but the getting the truth out there.

  25. Elly says:

    That doesn´t surprise me. Her words show that she doesn´t want this to be true. It would call her friendship and work with him into question. Most people don´t want to believe that their friends/family members are bad people. Imagine how that feels? You have to ask yourself why you haven´t seen it? All these years and you learn someone you called a friend is a monster? This guy likely had contact with her kids all these years and she never thought twice about it. Suddenly all is different. She represses

  26. NewWester says:

    She says “she never saw the behavior alleged by the women who say they were drugged, raped and sexually harassed ” Just because you didn’t see it does it mean it never happened? Interesting that not once did Phylicia say the women were lying or not telling the truth.

  27. Maria says:

    Damn, she was the ONE opinion I was waiting on.

    SMH.

    It would be foolish to think there aren’t at least one or two opportunists regarding this whole sordid scandal, let’s face it, there are some shady people out there—but thirty women???

    Nah son, my love for Rashad is gone, gone, gone.

    You can question the legitimacy of these allegations without dismissing the credibility of the women, shame on her.

  28. scout says:

    Enough, go away woman…

  29. db says:

    Ok. Cosby was beloved, and some people, and I think Phyllisha is one, are sad about it. I know I am. It’s allowed, people are allowed to be freaking sad a father figure turns out to be monster. I think she’s got some misplaced anger too.

  30. RobN says:

    I couldn’t get past the part where somebody calls her one of our greatest stage actresses with an apparently straight face. Are we sure this isn’t from The Onion?

  31. Little Darling says:

    Wow, it’s unbelievable the trash that was just spewed from this woman’s mouth.

    First, the “legacy” of The Cosby Show isn’t being tainted, I think everyone would still agree that it was groundbreaking for its time, that it was filled with humor an intelligent premise and a family that everyone could enjoy even if they were of color. No one (that I’ve heard of or read) has said a word about the show not having that place in society. Are we all disgusted that this vile man played the loving dad? Yes we are. Does it take away from what doors the show opened up back then? No it does not.

    Cosby, and Cosby alone is being destroyed. The legacy he built was single handedly destroyed by having a narcissist and rapist representing that legacy.

    As far as Camille being a “strong lady, a smart
    Lady” makes me realize that Rashad is neither of those as well. Smart strong women do not stand by a husband who is repeatedly accused of frighteningly similar stories. Smart
    Strong women play it like Liberty did when she found out her husband was cheating. You make a brave face. Say nothing. Get the hell out of dodge. That one video the AP released said all I needed to know about Camille. She took off her mic and sat there with a vacant grimace grin and let Cosby manipulate and threaten the journalist.

    Ugh. I am just SO MAD!

    • littlestar says:

      I am mad too! And love all that you have said. Agree 100%. I am now hoping another former co-star will come forward and say the exact opposite of Rasahd.

    • Citresse says:

      Yes, and in terms of legacy, has anyone ever questioned the fact Cosby, while married, was hanging out at the Playboy mansion? Does his wife, a feminist, not feel it was a major slap in the face to her and other women who want and expect marital fidelity?
      I haven’t followed Cosby’s life story with much interest over the years so perhaps he had some “open” marriage arrangement with his wife?
      Rashad, who feels a legacy has been compromised, should in fact, truly examine Cosby’s life and realize The Cosby Show was, in reality, so far removed from the truth of Cosby’s actual life.
      There is no legacy to protect.

  32. Jayna says:

    It’s a conspiracy to keep him off of TV. That’s a new one.

    I just can’t comment on this.

  33. Jaded says:

    Phylicia, does that mean that you believe anything you haven’t witnessed hasn’t happened? That the horrific number of crimes against woman who silently suffer doesn’t mean anything to you? In one stroke you have negated and demeaned any woman who has been physically abused by a man and that I find sickening. You could have said something non-committal like “I love and respect Bill Cosby and would prefer not to comment on such a sensitive issue until the truth comes out.” Shame on you.

  34. Reece says:

    I, for the life of me, cannot remember what it was exactly, but there was something she said or did years ago that made lose all respect for her. So these comments do not surprise me.

    • Christin says:

      Seems like there was something, or maybe it was how she seemed a bit arrogant (in my opinion) as the show’s success grew.

  35. Artemis says:

    Forget these women

    Bye Phylicia.

    And typical that she thinks a strong (black) woman is one that is SILENT. Gurl, please. As if his Beverly Johnson, Dickinson and his other survivors aren’t strong and smart? But then that doesn’t work with her logic I suppose.

    Speaking out about the abuse was strong and brave of all of them, much stronger than attacking those who need to be heard but have the least opportunity to do so and when they do, have to fight against rape apologists like you!

    I pray to god that Lisa Bonet was spared from his abuse but if she knows something, I wish she would speak up. Her departure was shady and her subsequent non-committal attitude to anything related to the Cosby Show is weird to say the least.

    • doofus says:

      “Bye Phylicia.”

      I love you for this.

    • I Choose Me says:

      ‘Bye Phylicia’

      Thank you for making laugh. I needed a short break in feeling sad and pissed off by her comments.

      • cheryl says:

        Sums it up for me as well.
        Bye.
        Wait. Almost sums it up. Irked at the “these” women phrasing. Like she is an old geezer shaking her finger at us and completely dismissing people who have suffered a traumatic violation.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      Yes. I posted further down about this. Someone from the show was debating wether or not to come forward with accusations of their own. It had to be one of the older “daughters”. Almost makes you wonder if Rishad knows this and that’s why she spoke out now. It will definitely make it harder for the actress, whomever she is, to come forward now. Shame on you Phylicia!

      • notasugarhere says:

        I hope she still comes forward, and Rashad and Allen end up being held accountable in the public arena for their intimidation tactics/support of Cosby.

      • Artemis says:

        Yes, I hope she comes forward too and I hope the public supports her when she does!

      • Mrs. Darcy says:

        It’s weird, I was just reading Michelle Hurd’s account of what went down with her and Cosby, and how he was obsessed with her straightening her hair. (She’s a very pretty, light skinned African American actress). He definitely had an m.o. I find it interesting looking back how Lisa Bonet became more and more natural with her hairstyles, the dreads, the scarf wraps, they were all such powerful statement looks, on such a young woman who I can only imagine had to fight her corner on her styling on the show, if not more. I really wish she would speak up, but can’t help but wonder if part of the “A Different World” deal involved her signing something. The whole thing is so shady.

    • GingerCrunch says:

      I’m wondering if by saying “forget these women” she was really trying to say something to the effect of these allegations “notwithstanding”…blah, blah, blah the sh!t about his legacy. Better to have remained silent on such a horrid situation, but then her silence would have somehow implied she believed he was guilty. Nice try with this staged impromptu interview, though. Seems to have made things worse and that’s a testament to how truly horrific this whole thing is. No one is coming out unscathed. Cosby’s got to be one of the worst humans on the planet at this moment.

  36. Wren33 says:

    It is possible to say “I never saw him do any of those things and I find it really hard to reconcile the accusations with the man I know” without having to add “all those crazy bitches much be lying”.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      Ahhh yes. This.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Yes. I’ve tried to put myself in her place – if these types of accusations came out about one of my close male friends whom I believed to be a decent man of character. It would be hard to believe, and I would hate it and be confused and distraught. I wouldn’t want to rush to judgment against my friend. But to look at 30 accusations and say “forget these women?” As difficult as it would be, I hope I could face the painful truth better. At least say what you suggested Wren, that I was confused and finding it difficult without delving into fantasy/conspiracy land. I hope.

      I also find it hard to believe she has heard nothing to suggest that Cosby’s wife wouldn’t turn a blind eye to things. It is, I think, a very open secret that he has always cheated on her. I’m really disappointed in this development.

  37. Alex says:

    Bye, Phylicia.

  38. Yeses says:

    Hey Phylicia,

    Diane Keaton called. She wants you to call back so you both can compare notes and strategize on the proper way to defends pedophiles and rapists.

  39. RobN says:

    I always wonder why people think they know all sides to a person simply because they know one side. I am always very aware that there is more to most people than they show you.

    • V4Real says:

      That happens a lot. Even here on C/B with celebs we never met. Posters often defend celebs by saying, he/she wouldn’t do this, they’re pretty open about their private lives, she wouldn’t lie, she’s above this and that.

      Truth be told we know nothing about these people but what we’re told or by the public persona they put out. I’m sure I have people in my life that I don’t know certain things about because they conceal it. They don’t want certain people knowing that side of them. I doubt Bill would let Rashad know he was a serial rapist. I can’t be sure that even Bill’s wife knew.

    • Charle says:

      You are right on this and it’s sad. It’s because they want to have this ideal image of the people they think they know. They choose to imagine the person they know is incapable of doing this, because also the person they know chooses to show certain ‘sides’ to their family and friends and I should add their victims too.
      Something happened to me involving this guy and I told a mutual friend. She was friends with the guy before she knew me but at the time I became close friends with her. She basically didn’t want to believe her so called ‘good friend’ could do that, he was like a ‘brother’ to her. Trying to doubt me and asking was I sure it happened.

      Ignorance is bliss to some people as the saying goes!

  40. oe. says:

    I miss Fat Albert.

  41. original kay says:

    She can have a seat beside Jodi Foster.

    • RobN says:

      I never had the sense that Foster disputed what had happened, just that she cared enough about him to try and help him rehabilitate himself. I may be wrong, but it was my feeling that she thought there was something there worth saving.

  42. JenniferJustice says:

    I just lost any respect I ever had for Rishad. I do think this is all about the money lost from the reruns being yanked. Why couldn’t she have just said something in support of the man she knew and left the accusors out of it? I find it terribly disturbing when women don’t support each other and re such a sensitive subject as sexual assault? I just can’t with her. I suspect, also, that this may be a case of, “well, he never did it to me or in front of me, so….” It may be difficult to imagine the man she knew as being a monster behind closed doors, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t possible. Most predators are extremely cautious about their public persona. Why would she have ever seen it? Why would he have ever made advances toward her? She’s not “his type”, she was his co-worker, the same age as he is or close to it and a very strong confident woman. And of course, she’s married to a former football player, so of course he wouldn’t have tried anything with her.

    Her comments have not only shamed and undermined the victims, but there has been talk that one of the actresses from the Cosby Show was preparing to come forward with accusations of her own. Now, this person will very likely stay silent because of Rishad’s comments. That is what is really disturbing.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      So disturbing. I wonder if part of it is that she feels that if Cosby’s legacy goes away, hers will, too? Such denial.

      • Christin says:

        Maybe she wanted a role on his new show, plus those residual checks. Hmmm…

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Yes. After I read some of the later posts here, I definitely see another side to this entire tragedy. I hadn’t thought about how this affects the other cast members of that show. I’m seeing her actions as more motivated and…planned.

        But that has me thinking about how Cosby’s being exposed (because that’s how I see it – guilty), has affected the others on the show and I feel incredibly sad about that because for the rest who have remained quiet, this must be traumatic. They were kids for the most part and this has changed something that was probably so dear to their heart – the experience of a whole other family that our society held as such a fond inspiration – how it might have shaped their lives and what standards they set for themselves in their real lives – now becoming something they are analyzing the Hell out of. I know I would be questioning everything. For them, he was a bit of a father-figure. How could he not have been? I want them to know I still think of The Cosby Show with fond memories. What happens to Bill Cosby is a very separate issue and it doesn’t minimize my fondness for that show and everything it represented. I will probably think of what’s going on now if I ever see a Cosby Show episode again, but I will still know that was a ground-breaking show that was something we really needed and changed a lot of people’s perceptions for the better.

  43. CH2 says:

    I’ve known some really tough women who put up with a lot of sh**. That argument is nonsense.

  44. Citresse says:

    She’s like those mothers who turn a blind eye to a daughter being abused by father because she wants to keep a certain $$$$$ lifestyle. Rashad is a bottom feeder.

    • Citresse says:

      And the “bottom feeder” needs to work on her basic math skills. Cosby is 77 years old. Why would anyone begin to destroy an individual at an age where statistically ready to buy the farm?

  45. Haolebunny says:

    I’m so disappointed in her. “Forget these women” is something that should never have been said. Did he pay her to say this?

    • Chuckles says:

      It’s disgusting. These are potential victims of a horrible crime and she says to forget them. She likely meant, “Forget these women because they’re not as famous and acclaimed as I am, and they’re hurting my royalty income.”

  46. Judyk says:

    Just lost all respect for Phylicia Rashad, whom I formerly admired, and agree with the obvious points made by many of you.

  47. Chuckles says:

    All of the articles I’m currently finding on this have edited her comments. I read her full quote about Camille on another site earlier today, and it was sickening. She basically said that Camille wouldn’t turn a blind eye to 40 years of “philandering.” Drugging and raping people is NOT philandering, Bitch! Also, his actual philandering is very well known so just stop making yourself look stupid. A simple, “I never saw any illicit behavior from him so I don’t believe the allegations” would have been enough. The “Oh, please.” when Janice Dickinson and Beverly Johnson were mentioned is so condescending. Who is she to shade alleged victims? She always came across as a bit high and mighty to me, but now I’ve lost all respect for her. Even if it turns out that she’s right, which is currently a million-1 shot, what she said and the way she said it is wrong on many, many levels.

  48. Penelope says:

    Incredibly impressive that you guys figured out her angle (the residuals drying up). I never thought of that and yet, it makes perfect sense. How shameful.

    • Ellen says:

      actually it was the very first thing that occurred to me when I heard the news and I felt bad for the other actors (same thing I felt for the 7th heaven actors and I never saw a single episode of the show). Many did not go on to great fame and are living off the residuals (or supplementing their income with it I’m sure). and now those are gone. It is also a sick, sad irony that if any of the “cosby girls” were victims of him (as someone hinted at before) that they will be losing their residuals because of this too…

  49. Giddy says:

    Rashad says “forget these women”. No, Phylicia, forget you! I loved the Cosby show, worried over the first allegation, but once a second woman came forward, Bill Cosby was dead to me. I still, however, respected Rashad, but no more. His legacy is irreversibly tainted. The Cosby Show might have eventually gone back on the air, and those lovely residuals resume. (What my Dad would call mailbox money.) But now Phylicia has supported him in a particularly heinous way…forget them…and I think the combination will be too much for most networks. Her statement was poorly considered, hurt women who had already been victimized, and hurt her own legacy in the process.

  50. Jonesy says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised for one second if Cosby himself is somehow behind Phylicia’s “interview.” She probably went crying to him about losing her income stream, he offered her a hefty payout in exchange for her speaking out on his behalf. THIS is the underhanded crap that we all know he is so skilled at. She just sold her soul to the devil himself.

  51. LAK says:

    Really???!!!!

    Conspiracies that involve 30+ women??!!!

    Really?! That’s the best she could do?!?!

  52. siri says:

    By defending him, she defends herself, and HER legacy. It’s pure egoism, and utterly shameful. And she must have thought about this for quite a while, and prepared herself, because that ‘statement’ sounds rehearsed, and covers too many details to be spontaneous. Sometimes, when a person has noticed something, and had chosen to look away, it produces a lot of guilt…could it be she is not completely surprised by those revelations, and that guilt forces her to insist nothing ever happened? Or did she really just got surprised? I mean, they have spend so much time together…”Forget those women!” – it’s painful to hear that from a mature woman like her, ignoring the pain that man has caused, and blaming the victims. She should know better. Or did she simply sell herself? This will haunt her forever, I think.

  53. Lisa says:

    You are not being the woman Clair Huxtable would want you to be.

  54. emma says:

    The thing about psychopaths is that they always have enablers, and they are very skilled at identifying them and cultivating these relationships. In some cases, it’s as if their enablers are hypnotized, it’s a strange phenomena. She and his wife may or may not be wicked, but they are certainly under his spell.

  55. Mrs. Darcy says:

    God I really hope Lisa Bonet comes out with some dirt, because sadly at this point it seems like only something major like that is going to convince everyone once and for all. That sounds horrible, I don’t wish that on anyone, but her firing was a pretty dramatic thing, with so little explanation. I feel like he probably didn’t dare abuse her but I would be hugely surprised if there wasn’t more to the story, if he did try something and she said no, even something small like that would quell doubters. How in h*ll did no one notice all his alone time with female extras? Someone from the show needs to get honest now, this Phylicia b.s. will just add fuel to the idiots denying it.

  56. Shiba says:

    The awful thing is that if any of the kids do speak out (Lisa Bonet), Phylicia Rashad will be taking the opposite side. And that is heartbreaking.
    No one takes this long to stand up for some one they believe is being unjustly persecuted.
    Unless their attorneys are negotiating a settlement in exchange.

  57. Bess says:

    “Forget” 30+ women who have been sexually assaulted by a very powerful man in Hollywood?! I think not! All the victims of sexual assault in this world who have not had their stories heard or believed will definitely NOT forget these women. The methods Cosby used on “these women” is nothing new, especially in Hollywood. He is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and I wish for more criminals, “powerful” (or not), black, white, purple and pink polka dotted .. to be exposed in the year 2015. If there really is some “conspiracy” behind the Cosby story, well, keep up the good work!

  58. Layla says:

    F this lady. For good. Oh ya mean, the serial rapist and manipulator never tried to drug and rape you? A woman he worked with every day, who at the time had some power and a name in the industry? And she uses THIS as the justification as to why he’d not be capable of victimizing powerless up-and-comers? Im disgusted by her. Can’t even say her name. What a opportunistic jerk.

  59. jwoolman says:

    My guess is that the bizarre idea of a conspiracy came straight from Bill. She must have talked with him about it. That also would explain the equally bizarre claim that he hasn’t defended himself etc. That all really sounds like Bill. But she probably grabbed those straws because she genuinely likes and respects him. She played his wife on another sitcom after the Huxtables one, so they had a good working relationship. She just never saw the side of him that others did. She was never a target. So she’s feeling angry that her work and the work of many others is now tainted by accusations she doesn’t believe about behavior she never witnessed. She’s looking for reasons to not believe, to hope he will be vindicated and the legacy will be preserved for all the cast. I don’t know how much money is involved for her personally, not sure when actors started seriously looking out for themselves about syndication money. But it doesn’t have to be about money.

    As for the timing- it may have exploded in the media just recently, but the accusations are certainly not new. It’s more that things just hit critical mass. And it is very typical in abuse cases that once one or two people get heard, others feel safer about telling their own stories. The victims tend to feel isolated and ashamed, but knowing that they weren’t the only ones makes the difference. There is nothing at all suspicious about the timing.

  60. DanaG says:

    She sounds like an ignorant idiot. I’m sure she is more worried about her residuals then anything else. Too many victims with too many similar stories for it to be all made up. Plus most women don’t want to go through this stuff cause they know they will be ripped apart. Same thing is happening with Prince andrew, the victim is being blamed and is getting called all sorts of names cause people can not believe a Prince would do that. It’s Bill Cosbys own fault and there really isn’t any defence he could end up in jail just ask Rolf Harris!

  61. Otaku fairy says:

    Oh please. She needs to give up her little American legacy/American Family fantasy and look at this more objectively. I mean, it probably is hard for her to accept the fact that someone she’s worked with and known for decades, whom she has a good opinion of, and who hasn’t exhibited predatory behavior around her is capable of abusing in this way. It can be mind-boggling when it comes out that a person you respected, have known for a while, thought was nice, and seemed put together and of decent character is abusive in some way- whether it’s a sexual predator or a domestic violence situation. But people don’t always show their full selves to everyone; people can pick and choose just who they do and don’t want to reveal these sides of themselves to and when. She’s letting nostalgia and friendship blind her. Even if some of the women are lying, I would be shocked and find it hard to believe that all of them are. Why, after all this time, would somebody just be ‘out to get’ Bill Cosby for no reason?