Seriously, how could I NOT re-use this photo?
Well, our wait is over. We might finally know the name of Baby Hunter-Cumberbatch. Benedict Cumberbatch and Sophie Hunter welcomed their son into the world several months ago ā and I personally believed that they announced the birth weeks after the fact ā and while they announced the birth and the fact that they had a boy, they never announced the name. We assumed it was a purposeful omission. Bendy and Sophie wanted to make sure that they didnāt famewhore their kid (the same way they famewhored their engagement). There were no photos of Baby Batch and it was pretty much radio silence about the name. Until now!
Thereās been wild social media speculation over what Benedict Cumberbatch has named his baby but I can reveal the Sherlock star ā who opened to rave reviews as Hamlet at Londonās Barbican Theatre last week ā and wife Sophie Hunter have settled on the rather elegant moniker Christopher Carlton Cumberbatch.
Christopher was the name of the character Benedict played in Sir Tom Stoppardās TV adaptation of Paradeās End, while Carlton is a family middle name shared by Benedict and his actor father Timothy. Benedict and Sophieās baby boy was born where all the stars choose to have their babies ā in the plush Portland Hospital in Westminster ā on June 1.
First off, the name: I think itās perfectly lovely. Christopher is a nice name and it was very popular when I was born ā I knew about a million Christophers growing up. Itās possible it had significance on one side of the family too. āCarltonā is a family name on Bendyās side ā his middle name is Carlton, as is his fatherās, and his dad uses āCarltonā as his stage name. So, Christopher Cumberbatch. It has a nice sing-songy feel. Chris Cumberbatch is fine too. I hope they arenāt calling him C.C. Or āTriple Cā or whatever.
Secondly, the date: they didnāt get around to confirming the birth publicly until June 13th, remember? So they really did wait almost two weeks after the birth. Which is a thing that some celebrities do, to let the public know that celebrities donāt owe anyone a glowing birth announcement. So, did they hold the announcement because they wanted to enjoy nearly two weeks of peace without crazy Cumberbitches freaking out on Twitter? Or did they hold the announcement for another reason altogether?
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Aww and I was hoping for Zaphod Beeblebrox of Betelgeuse – bummer!
Crap. I can’t believe they don’t have an upvoting thingy on this side. I’d upvote you a million times.
Aww that’s a sweet name.
I think so too. Though I thought of Christopher Robin, not Tietjens.
The timing of the leak/announcment just after Hamlet opens to mixed reviews was interesting.
Kaiser, you can’t overuse that first photo. It’s gold.
I think he’s about to fall asleep in that photo. He must have been knackered.
I really like it.
I was hoping they were going to say he was named Carlton as Benerdict is a massive Fresh Prince of Bel Air fan… Or secretly supports my Aussie Rules footy team, Carlton.
The family tradition works too!
Or because Ben’s signature dance move is ‘the Carlton.’
Haha! I’m getting images in my head of Bendy teaching his son ‘the Carlton’! š
Also, love the name. Nice to know that there are still some kids growing up with the same names their parents and grand parents did.
Harvey must feel so slighted.
And he shall have an otter patronus like dad’s!
….is Cumbers actually a ginger, because for a moment there I thought this was a Weasley reference (though from what I remember, the otter Patronus was Hermione’s)
No, no, no he’s ‘Auburn’ – far too posh to be a ‘Ginge’
I don’t see the big deal if they held off the birth announcement for a couple of weeks? His Lizardliness does not literally owe Cumberloonies his firstborn, even if he was all over the place during his mate’s pregnancy.
and Christopher is a nice name.
+1
Tweeter freak out? He’s not even on twitter.
Call me crazy, but annoucing the baby name just after the not so great reviews for Hamlet is “suspicious”.
As for Christopher, it’ll always remind me Tiejens.
Now, now, the Daily Mail article says his Hamlet opened to “rave reviews.” Of course, those raves didn’t come from any actual stage critics but the DM likes to be creative.
Creative.
*snorts loudly*
They did get some rave reviews from stage critics, lol. It was just an oddly mixed bag overall.
This is kind of late to bury reviews, however, and it’s a bank holiday in the UK plus it was a late Saturday pub. It’s going to get buried faster than it would if they would have released it, say, earlier next weekend.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve no issue with trying to pick the best time to release news you’ve got to anyway. This is public record, the press would have just gotten the info themselves.
Of course it could come from public record, but if someone could find it on public record, I guess the Cumberb%tches would have find it a long time ago.
Well, no. Before 6 months, you have to get the short copy at the local register’s office once the birth is registered by the parents (no clue when they did it).
I can’t see the fans sending out multiple requests and paying a small fee for each one, but the press will and has.
Oh, I could totally believe them doing so :).
Could be, I suppose š
But it is easier for the press. Theyāre got real sources, so if they get any good scuttle on the right hospital/birth date, itās very easy and cheap for them to get the copy once it becomes available.
Welllllā¦he himself has gotten pretty stellar reviews for his performance from all the major theater critics now to be fair (4/4 from the Times main critic just appeared today). Itās the direction/staging that people are widely mixed on.
Weirdly enough, the timing of the conception to that date doesn’t jive…even if it was a csection and done a week early do to her being a geriatric mother. Locations don’t match. Interesting that one! Also contradicts his statement of the conception being post engagement. So huh. I don’t care one way or the other, and respect the right for privacy, but either shut the front the door and be private, or just be honest and open.
Seriously, are some people still believing CCC was conceived after the engagement?
I don’t think anyone believes the baby was conceived after the engagement – I imagine the vast majority believe that they found out about the pregnancy after they became engaged. And I think they believe that because that’s what BC said.
geriatric mother?? isn’t she like 38?
in the UK if you are older than 35 you are considered geriatric. it just means that they won’t let you go past term due to the oxegynization of the placenta.
It is the same in U.S. After 35 you are considered advanced maternal age. It used to be called geriatric. You have to have extra tests, etc. I wish someone had told me this when I was younger! Your body doesn’t think 35 is young to have a baby, even if society does. š
I agree on the timing. That means the marriage announcement was made after the first trimester. He was making sure he had to marry her.
> He was making sure he had to marry her.
When people say things like that to me it speaks more about their own insecurities than anything else.
There is no way to know what the motivations were. They didn’t have to marry, Nobody would’ve thought anything. These days people often don’t marry and live in civil partnership.
And then you have the likes of Hugh Grant and Jude Law. Most things pale in comparison to their escapades.
A June 1 delivery date — if a full term birth — means the baby was conceived the first week of September. Wasn’t BC quoted at TIFF that he was single? That was mid September. Yeesh — these two are doomed.
I agree. Already he looks miserable, in my own opinion.
Kaiser, naughty minx! (Please don’t stop.)
The math surrounding the date leaves possibilities open that one might rather not have when pondering paternity. But I always had a gut feeling that he was told she was expecting in early September. Basically, right around TIFF is when all these rumors about her being the secret girlfriend ramped up. But that would make the birth date doubtful also. Either way, there’s no way the pregnancy was not a part of the engagement decision. So… all of this and their behavior is weird. Too weird to be related to mere privacy concerns.
Frankly, I think the guy is super talented and sexy. And I try to focus on that.
First of all… there was an article that said that Sophie’s due date was two months prior to Phaedra at the Beckett Festival, which means it was sometime between May 23 – May 31st. I had a due date of May 24th and the conception took place on Sept 6th. So if the due date range is correct, she conceived early – mid Sept and gave birth at 40-41 weeks.
I was also the same age as Sophie when I was due and my midwife (who was overseen by an MD) was willing to let me go an extra week or two as long as there were no health concerns with me or my babe. The UK is more restrictive with women over 35, but it wouldn’t be strange to me if they let her go an extra week if everything looked good.
Second, Ben did not say he was single at TIFF. When that woman stood up during the TIG Q&A and asked to feast on his yummyness (making everyone cringe), he actually said he was “taken”. That was his first public confirmation that Sophie was his girlfriend, after all the sightings of them together.
Well… Exactly. BC was in Toronto a great chunk of that conception range and he didn’t confirm bupkis about his status. Definitely nothing about Sophie until they got engaged. In fact, there were just a few sightings of them by mid September. Does that mean that he and Sophie weren’t/aren’t are a real couple? Does that mean he’s not the father of this child?
Not really. Not necessarily. It definitely leaves those possibilities though. But the craziness that always ensues with that reality just makes me reiterate –
I love a sexy, super talented Brit. That’s the focus.
@ Pegasus, yes, the world is full of possibilities, especially in the minds of conspiracy theorists. But why would anyone even bring up the possibility of the baby not being BC’s child that is what weird.
Why would people even think along those lines.
Since the due date is calculated from the date of the last period, there can be some wiggle room depending on the length of a woman’s cycle. I doubt that Ben was there the entire 10 days either… probably 2-3 days at most, so the timing still works for pre-trip or post-trip sexy rumpus (both are good reasons for them to be getting it on!) that resulted in little CCC. š
Stalk much? It’s not like anyone other than them really has any clue when they conceived their child. Or what Sophie’s movements were last year. It’s creepy enough they know his daily movements.
About them knowing a public figures movement’s? It’s not creepy. It’s data collection. Google does it every second you are on the web. If you live in the UK, you are monitored on CCTV a large majority of the time. The US is not far behind. Big Brother is here. Double so for a celebrity. If you want to erase your data, don’t put it out there and go live off the grid. Don’t blame a very intelligent person who organized a large amount of information. If you want to blame someone @Ben, blame the person who is always in looking for a camera lens. Blame the person who chose to use a photograph with girls screaming, following Ben like the Beatles. Blame the timeline, every milestone matching up to a significant part of the Oscar’s campaign. But don’t blame the people that are simply listening to the publicity put out, using non tabloid photographs, public tweets, shared information and comments from sites like this to try to understand a little better a decision that they felt came out of nowhere.
For me, what’s more creepy is their assumption they know everything that goes in his life. That’s a false illusion.
noneyadambus, I have to say respectfully that your reasoning isn’t quite resonating with me. You’re talking complete strangers here, not people who are owed any explanation.
Its creepy that they seem to know ALL her cycles. And this notion that he HAS to come clean to them is bizarre. Think about that one. Let it ‘gestate’ for awhile. He OWES them the truth. Jeez. They had moved in together, because some stalker went through his trash and found that she had been getting her mail there. People don’t move in together on a spur. That’s a serious relationship.
Then he presents her at the French Open. Then he says he’s TAKEN at TIFF. But all that ‘proof’ doesn’t resonate because they are stuck on the narrative that they got together when the engagement was announced. They make no allowances for the couple to have a private conversation before any announcements being made. Or to date for awhile before realizing they’re serious about each other. Its always, “he said on this date, so that’s when I’ll start my clock”.
It will never stop being creepy as f**k that so many people care about a complete stranger’s menstrual cycle.
@delorb ā
You seem to think you know everything about their relationship. I am sorry, but the French Open was not a confirmation of anything. He was with Kinvara Belfour at the Monaco Grand Prix just weeks before The French Open, was he āpresentingā her?
There are crazy/creepy/obsessed people on both sides. There are people who “worship” Sophie. Just because she is married to Benedict. Let’s say Benedict and Sophie got a divorce. Those people would turn on Sophie so fast.
“Christopher” has enough weight to balance out “Cumberbatch”, so although I’m not really into the alliteration, I approve. Not that they were waiting for my approval or anything… š
I don’t like the alliteration. It just sounds odd.
That’s a great name. Christopher is one of my favs for a guy. š
I really dislike the name Christopher – I had a bullying swine of an Uncle called that name (he was vile to my Mum when she was very ill). If I dislike someone with a particular name it puts me off the name for life – weird?
It’s not weird, just human.
Oh good.
Not weird, but you must really hate Marvel movies. Like 87% of their actors are named Christopher. š
Ha! – I really hate Marvel movies anyway – just not my cup of tea…
Lovely name.
Love it. “Parade’s End” was his best work to date. Such a subtle, shaded performance.
Christopher used to be one of my favorite names. It’s just so overdone now that I’m not a fan of it.
John has become a name I love that you don’t hear much of. I was a fan of Jack and Jon and Jonathan, but it’s now switched to just John, J-o-h-n, spelled the way it was in my family.
Eek, that alliteration. Almost Kardashian-esque.
I don’t love it but it could be worse. It just seems like a bit of a mouthful, and to me it doesn’t flow together as a name.
Wasn’t his character in Parade’s End, ‘Christopher’, in an unhappy marriage, the result of a hastily-consummated relationship and a surprise baby?
I’ll be over here in the corner, snickering.
Life imitates Art far more than Art imitates Life?
*snicker*
He once said in an interview that he loved Tietjens and hoped that he could live a”principled” life like him. Well, congrats Ben, you’re the grand marshal in your own parade now!
I could never understand why he loves Tietjens: he’s a man whose rigid principles ruin not only his life, but his wife’s too. And who falls for an annoying girl when he has a fantastic, fiery woman at home.
I love his acting in that series, but couldn’t stand the character or that blonde girl he falls for.
Perhaps it is just that Rebecca Hall stole the show from under their noses. š
@Hermia, Sylvia was 100x worse in the books the mini series made her sympathetic. She’s was a awful and he should have never married her in the first place not saying Valentine was a better choice but at least they loved each other.
It could also named his son after Alan Turing’s Christopher? Or it might a combination of Tietjens and Turning? He seems to like both characters.
Bless you, hermia. I so agree and am still not done being annoyed about that story. I can’t believe Tom Stoppard didn’t manage to find the sense in it. Sylvia was the only one in that whole series with sense, feeling and gumption together. The ones we were meant to admire and sympathize with were but weak and inconstant.
I’d read people say it was better than the original series, which seemed unlikely what with 60s British talent behind the scenes and Judi Dench, but OMG. What hysterical, overly stylized, theatrical nonsense. I can’t bring myself to read the novel now, based on these adaptations. Still, I wish Stoppard had taken more improving liberties with the characters/plot.
I recently saw his The Romantic Englishwoman (Michael Caine! Helmut Berger!). What 1970s twaddle. I adore Stoppard but he is clearly not infallible when it comes to screenplays.
That said, Empire of the Sun, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, Anna Karenina, Shakespeare in Love… pretty damn fantastic, and in theatre, one of my favorites, Arcadia. I have to check out his Enigma (Jeremy Northam! Kate Winslet! My optimism is restored.).
@Hermia, Rebecca Hall was fantastic and it was nice to see her shine in something. American directors can’t seem to figure out what to do with her. Through the whole thing, I couldn’t figure out for the life of me what either woman could see in that dull prig.
@Ally Couldn’t agree more about PE and Stoppard. As for Enigma, in my humble opinion, the best things about it are Jeremy Northam (I would have loved to see his Hamlet btw) and Saffron Burrows. The script is a bit meh.
@Lilac Yes, he’s dull and also a bit of a man-child, despite all his stiff upper lip nonsense. Maybe I have answered my own question on why BC likes him š
He pretty much nailed Christopher.
I think he loves book Christopher, something I completely get. This is someone who tries to do the right thing for everyone and walks the walk.
Problem with movie is that so much of it was lost; it’s a lot of stream of consciousness stuff. So you lose a good chunk of the characters’ dimensions on screen. Not something I would have adapted.
Enigma was bad…ymmv.
I didn’t really care for anyone in it. I didn’t understand Sylvia so she put me off. I don’t understand why she would be angry with him, when it took the two of them to have a baby. I didn’t like Valentine, because she seemed to be a feminist, but she was going to wait for Christopher? Really? Plus she seemed to be obviously written by a man. Christopher was alright, but at a certain point, you have to give up some of your principles. Especially when they are hurting you. Doesn’t make you less than, just human. Hey, that rhymes. Not one of my favorites.
The only reason to see Enigma, IMO, is for Jeremy Northam. Oh and for a young guy (back then) who is currently heating up GoT.
Christopher is a family name.
Are you THE Ben????? That would be a scoop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! š
I knew you weren’t going to wait until it’s confirmed. Just couldn’t resist.
What confirmation are you waiting for?
The official annoucement in the Guardian?
I mean they actually confirmed other things when things started in the almost literal garbage section of the Fail (instead of the figurative garbage sections). There’s no quote or source so I was just assuming someone was just trying to start something. And you don’t think it’s ironic that he named his kid the same name as his character who had a shotgun wedding for who may not be his kid?
I agree that it’s quite ironic but not surprising.
And I don’t think the Daily Mail, as bad as it is, would publish it without any checking before.
Anyway, BC should confirm it himself very soon thank to the staged door.
its in the section of the fail used for things that aren’t checked, freebunny
so its either a rumor, unverifiable tip or the fail scrounged around for the birth record which u could by now
Nah nonadministrative people can’t look up the record for another 3 months. Gotta wait and see on this one.
felice yes they kind of can, just not online at the major govt birth/death/marriage records hub for all districts. they need to request it from the district where the baby was born directly after someone registered the birth
tbh the press gets stuff like this all the time by digging around their sources to get enough info to get the short birth cert or just using contacts in the record offices
I won’t believe it till I see the announcement in The Times. (-;
@Felice-Cumberbuddy confirmed the info in the Mail. She seems to be ITK, so there’s that.
@anon121 –
Cumberbuddy did not “confirm” anything. She is just assuming that since it was reported, that it must be “true.” Cumberbuddy is not “in the know.”
@LINZ-actually she confirmed in 3 different posts. Carefully, but a confirmation. Unless you are Cumberbuddy and I completely misread your posts, then apologies!
I like the name Christopher, but I love the nickname Kit, rather than Chris, hope they use it.
With the alliteration, my mind went to C3PO (C3PeeOh, thinking babies and diapers and all). As I slink out of here, I’ll say that I like “Kit” too. I know two Christophers and they both go by Kit.
Agree – very English, very aristocratic – the three Cs are a bit unfortunate, but it’s very pretty together. And I think Cumberbatch was fondest of Christopher Tietjens out of all the characters he played.
May well have called him Christopher with the intention of calling him ‘Kit’ (after Kit Marlowe – very theatrical). The English upper crust have a habit of naming their children one thing and then calling them something entirely different. Eg Prince Harry is really Henry (Charles Albert David).
I actually like Kit, it sounds very nice and very British. But also think that if they choose Kit they’ll be accused again of trying to be posher than they are and pretentious.
Nice name. Not sure about the alliteration though. At least it’s not insane.
Sounds quite apropos, and if they didn’t name the baby that, the DM will have quite a lot of explaining to do – even for them. One has to feel for the Mars-based sceptics, now confronted with a name, a date, and even the hospital. So to continue the “there is no baby” saga, they will now have to include in this massive public deception the Portland Hospital as one of the co-conspirators (along with a Church of England vicar, poor Tim and Wanda, wedding guests like Hiddles and Loo Brealey, his PR rep, etc.). Presumably, if no such birth took place at Portland, their own PR would politely issue a “correction.” One waits with interest to see what efforts the denial brigade will come up with now. $50 says she’s pregnant again by next summer. Takers?
I’m sorry … What? There are people claiming there’s no baby? Are they trying to out-crazy the people who think Rob Pattinson and Kristen Stewart have a whole litter of secret babies?
Ah what a treat you have in store for you as we introduce you to the world of the Cumberbatch skeptics on Tumblr, famous for insisting that his marriage wasn’t legal, she’s blackmailing him, he actually hates her guts, and there was never any pregnancy, it’s a “pillow baby”. Yes.
I’ll take that bet. But I’ll one up you and say $100 by spring latest. I don’t think they’ll wait that long to do the addition to the family. If she gets pregnant in the summer, she’ll have the baby belly when they do the red carpet for Dr. Strange in winter 2016. Mind you, i’ll guess she’ll be showing either way.
Just re-reading my post and because of the timing, I’m changing my bet. I say she’s pregnant by the winter of this year. She’ll have the baby by July/August of 2016 and be in fit fighting shape for the red carpet for Dr. Strange in fall/winter 2016. My guess is she wants to do at least 1 publicity push with the hubby when she’s not expecting, although I’m sure there will be many more to come. I think I’m going to win the bet with my savvy prediction š
I agree with you. She will have another one soon. And why not? They are rich, in love, they should have as many as they can. Mazeltov!
PS Advice to Ben: stop kissing your wife on the cheek, and aim for the lips instead. I think she’ll appreciate it š
I’m too poor to accept your raised bet . . . LOL. My qualms about your timing is that it’s likely she had a C-section, and the body takes longer to recover from that. OTOH – she is pushing 40 and they may just want to get the nursery stuff out of the way in 2-3 years.
If she had a c-section there is no way she looks or feels as good (and flat) as she did at the tennis. And I’m sure someone has an anecdote of “my tummy was immediately like a board directly after my c-section!”. Bull. That is major abdominal surgery. You aren’t supposed to do anything remotely strenuous for 8 weeks. My family wouldn’t even let me vacuum!
I’m hoping she gets pregnant again next month. That way both kids have close birthdays. Oh and because it will blow the brains of a few sceptics. No Oscar campaign. No Harvey. I guess their blackmail bull would still be on the table, right along side their blown out gray matter. LOL
@Delorb, you’re forgetting he is in an Oscar-bait movie being released in September. You are also forgetting campaigning for an Olivier.
Don’t think either of those is going to happen.
I don’t think a hospital would comment either way. Not that I don’t believe there’s a baby, just saying.
I’m not so sure about that. They could, of course, politely ask the Cumberbatchs through their representative to correct the misinformation, but a DM announcement of the hospital I would think would make the place want to be clear if the info was incorrect – especially given how easy it might be to get hospital records and prove otherwise.
Hospitals cannot release such patient information without signed consent.
It’s hilarious. The only fandom more extreme is One Direction, but as most of them are very young I tend to give 1D fandom a break in that respect. (Excepting the real life harassment, nothing justifies that).
Sophie always looks like she’s getting a big, wet, sloppy dog kiss.
Maybe she likes big wet dog kisses. Every dog owners that i know seem to enjoy getting kisses from their dogs.
Too bad the name doesn’t reflect Sophie’s family or anything. First, middle, last — it’s all about dad.
Is it surprising? He’s quite self-centred.
Maybe she has someone named Christopher? But if not, it is somewhat sad.
carlton is a second surname. either they didnāt give the kid a middle name or the press didnt get it. and yeah, for all we know, christopher is from her family tbh its weird to assume hes naming after book characters like we just talked to him yesterday lol
Considering the whole mess was all about Sophie, Benedict should get something.
I read somewhere that Christopher is a Hunter family name too. Don’t know if that’s true.
Nice name.
Dammit. I was hoping for Icancatch Downthehatch Fastenlatch Gottamatch Ofcoursenatch Cabbagepatch Needtoscratch Grabbersnatch Hairlikethatch Cumberbatch the First.
Beats Dweezil, Apple and Moon Unit.
Pilot Inspektor.
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I don’t like alliterations in names, but it’s much better than something “unique” like Ikarus Nero Bilbo Cumberbatch.
If youre ever not sure of a name, say it to a kid and within seconds they’ll come up with a mocking rhyme or a reason you shouldn’t use it.
Its fascinating how their minds work.
CC Cumberbatch… He’ll be called “sissy cumberbatch” apparently š
I swear it’s the first thing I thought about too. Maybe I’m a child at heart š
Maybe he’s a huge fan of the “Carlton the Doorman” character from Rhoda?
One of the crazy skeptics already ordered a copy of the birth certificate. They posted screencaps of the order on Tumblr.
Well, that may solve the problem for good. If they get it then it’s game over š
And that is why no sane person would admit being a fan of Cumberbatch in a polite company. Who,wants to be suspected of being touched in the head like this bunch.
@hermia, I am sure they will think of something to explain the birth certificate as well. It doesn’t even have to make sense since none of their other theories have.
I find it really disturbing that they would feel so entitled to invade his privacy like that. Some of them are clearly suffering from erotomania and other delusions.
@en, they’re claiming someone paid off the hospital. it’s a real soap opera they’ve got going. I don’t know whether I should laugh or be scared.
It’s very creepy. I’ve said this before, stuff like this is all viewed as innocent gossip but there’s always a chance someone unstable will get involved, and that type of environment feeds it.
Let’s hope they don’t turn into the character of McEwan’s Enduring Love. Scary.
An,
IMO, it stops being innocent and harmless gossip when they start making up awful lies about someone in the hope that it sticks and ruins them. Or when they speak of causing her or the baby harm. I can’t count the number of times one of them TYPED (not thought), that the baby had issues and that’s why he was holding off on the birth announcement. Seemingly typed with glee because that would give him an easy out to leave her. Yeah, a man leaves his family because the baby isn’t perfect and that’s a good ‘out’. And all because she married their secret boyfriend. They are rather disgusting and shame on anyone who fans those flames.
So just anyone can order a copy of a birth certificate for any reason in the UK? I would think that that would only be allowed by the parents or someone who has an official reason to request one. That’s insane. I hope the court says no. I doubt they will, but one can hope. And thanks EN for adding the word erotomania to my vocabulary.
Unfortunately, it’s public record. You see stuff in the US too, press getting ahold of birth certs isn’t uncommon. It’s just a short version usually, with basic information (name, DOB, place of birth).
Yeah I looked that one up and I got the public records thing. I thought you had to have a reason to get one on a living person for some reason. If anyone can just order a birth certificate on anyone, why was it such a hassle for me to get a copy of my own???
@invadertak, I had to go through a few hoops when I asked for mine as well. But thank goodness that it’s only a short version they could get their hands on. You worry when you see long essays about how BC is sending hidden messages, like when he didn’t wear his ring one night but did at the next stage door. And apparently someone even passed by his house since his address is also searchable? š± yikes.
*psst* I was the one that used that word, but you’re welcome :).
Not bad, but I’d prefer Kristopher Karlton Kumberbatch.
Signed, Kim š
Christopher Tietjens’s family life was such a mess Lol,
Does it mean there will be a Valentine situation too?
What an un-sexy name. A name you’d expect for a guy who can’t find your vagina. I expected better from Cumbers.
I totally thought the baby was going to be a boy and would be named Christopher. Ben absolutely adored that character and wanted to live with his principles. I’m surprised that Timothy or Benedict is not part of the name. Maybe saving those for another one?
I tried this before and it got bounced. I think it was too long. So I’m going to break it into parts.
kt I understand your confusion. I did not say I was owed an explanation or that anyone was. I was objecting to the idea of data collection being called stalking. There are several celebrities currently who have babies or have had babies who are not being subjected to this scutiny. The difference is how it is handled by the celebrity themselves. A good example is Joseph Gordon Levitt. No one knew he was engaged until they got married, no one knew they were pregnant until the baby was born and no one is asking for a baby name.
Cumberbatch and his wife seem to have done everything possible to keep the baby out of the public eye. Even their initial relationship was conducted in secret for months. Yes, they pimped their relationship and engagement in the early stages during the Oscar campaign, but the wedding and baby were both kept very private and secret. I know the stans like to claim he’s massively pimped out both because it fits in with their fantasy about the wedding and pregnancy being faked for PR (because otherwise they’d need to accept that their fantasy boyfriend married and impregnated another woman) but realistically they’ve been far more discreet and private than most celebs. The only reason for the crazy scrutiny and fan-stalking (and it unquestionably is stalking – look at the way the “skeptics” harass their friends and colleagues on Twitter) is because Cumberbatch for some bizarre reason has become a ‘lust object’ and fantasy boyfriend for a group of emotionally disturbed women. There are plenty of celebs who overtly exploit their personal lives and don’t receive this level of stalking.
A different way totally is Kim Kardashian. If you haven’t heard rumors about her not really being pregnant, you’re not listening. She even admitted to hearing them herself. IMO, celebrity scutiny is equal to the amount of publicity they give to their private life. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson, barely get in the news for instance. (Except when Tom’s older son acted up.)
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I’m so this is too long and broken up. It wouldn’t let me post it all at once.
TL:DR The long and short of it is this, no information that I was talking about was obtained without premission.Ā No one hiding in bushes. Well there were the pictures from the honeymoon.Ā They were from Flame/Flynet.Ā That is a very interesting company. They work with Angelina Jolie a lot.Ā Ben is not being persued by rabid fan girls. Despite the pictures.Ā If you don’t like the discussion, don’t read it.
What I find annoying and borderline batty, is that now fans are telling him at stage door he should go ‘home to his kid’. He’s doing his job and you wouldn’t tell your colleagues at the office or even down the pub for a pint that they should go home to their kids.
Why do fans feel they have to tell an actor how he should live his life? Maybe he should stop being so nice and make it very clear his life is his own.
One thing is to have a bit of harmless gossip online, another is to meddle with a stranger’s life.
+10000
@hermia-there are fan sites that are advising fans to show up at 2130-before the show ends. There are fans with posts from every stage door. THAT’S not right. Should be reserved for show attendees only. Hop Barbican changes this as the crowd seems to be getting bigger.