Duchess Kate brought solid middle-class family values to Prince William’s life?

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The Mail on Sunday excerpted a book called Diana’s Babies: Kate, William And The Repair Of A Broken Family by Angela Levin. To say this book is a glowing, obvious piece of royal propaganda would be an understatement. The Mail on Sunday’s excerpt is from a chapter in which Duchess Kate is lauded for bringing much-needed family values to William and how she’s made him a better man because he is… something something a father? The thesis is basically that everything William does is for his family, to keep them safe and protected, because Kate is the one woman who finally vanquished the ghost of Diana. You can read the full excerpt here. Some highlights:

Princess Charlotte’s christening was a turning point for William: “Few of those watching in the summer sunshine would have remarked upon it, but this stroll with a Millson Prince pram symbolised that William had finally broken away from his dysfunctional past. And this, I believe, is largely due to the calming and stabilising influence of his wife and her close-knit middle class family.”

William is no longer paranoid? “The Middletons’ informality and William’s growing confidence as a father has clearly softened the shy second-in-line to the Throne, who has a dislike of conspicuous attention and a wariness of photographers verging on the paranoid. Yet to everyone’s surprise Kensington Palace confirmed that watching members of the public would be able to use their own cameras in the paddock outside the Sandringham church.”

William insisted on the Middletons being featured in the christening portraits: “William insisted, against tradition, that the Middletons featured prominently in the portraits.”

Nanny Maria’s presence & what it means: “There was someone else in plain view, too: Spanish-born nanny Maria Teresa Turrion Borrallo. She was kept in the background at George’s christening but at Charlotte’s was prominent in her brown Norland nanny uniform, and had the important job of looking after George during the ceremony – a sign of William’s growing confidence with his senior Royal status.”

When William brought George to St. Mary’s after Kate gave birth: “George then waved to the crowd from the safety of his father’s arms. William kissed him tenderly. It was a heart-melting moment that showed that William is no longer inhibited about expressing his emotions in public. Kate’s devotion, confidence and love had helped him trust his feelings.”

The change in William: “Above all, the change is clear in William himself, who is no longer the withdrawn, slightly angry presence from the past, but a smiling Prince at ease with himself and those he meets. Two years ago, I wrote that embracing Kate and her family was the best thing that could possibly happen to a young man like William, troubled by the early loss of his mother Diana, and the intensely difficult period that had preceded her death. Charismatic, but emotionally fragile, Diana had leaned far too heavily upon him during the slow, painful demise of her marriage to Charles.”

What Kate brought to the table: “By marrying her, William has drawn a firm line under everything his warring parents’ marriage represented. She understands William’s needs and accommodates his wishes. She has introduced him to the comfort and ease of a warm home and hearth – and the middle class values, which he has so readily embraced. In turn, he wants to protect his children and ensure that she never feels the isolation his mother did – and he has insisted on changes to the Royal way things are done. Even the normally intransigent courtiers who made Diana’s life so unhappy have had to bend to William’s wishes. As a result, he has the lifestyle he wants.”

William doesn’t have flunkies? “Unlike his father, who is surrounded by staff, Prince William has dispensed with flunkies, maids, footmen and valets. And in choosing to live away from the metropolitan glamour at Anmer Hall in rural Norfolk – a house jokingly referred to as the ‘baby bunker’ – he has given George and Charlotte the very best chance in admittedly rarefied circumstances of ‘as normal an upbringing as possible’.”

[From The Mail on Sunday]

My guess is that some people will buy this version of the Cambridges. Some people will genuinely believe that William adores everything about Kate and the Middletons and everything he does is to honor them and protect them. That’s one reading. Another reading is that Carole Middleton manipulated and orchestrated almost everything in Kate’s life and Carole now controls a great deal in William’s life and who needs “flunkies” when Carole manages their household full of staff? Of course, William and Kate still have tons of staff, they just don’t have much work to do because neither Will or Kate really care about their royal roles.

I also get tired of this “William’s childhood was so difficult and painful because of his parents’ divorce” thing. Tons of kids grow up with divorced parents and it’s not the end of the world. Harry also grew up with the same divorced parents and you don’t see him banging on endlessly about how his life is garbage because of his difficult childhood.

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  1. BeBeA says:

    Yeah…… I couldn’t finish reading this…… PR over kill always makes me sleepy .

    • Size Does Matter says:

      I couldn’t either. After a few sentences I had to stop and make sure I was drinking coffee and not maple syrup thanks to the overwhelming sappiness.

    • Tilly says:

      “Those who shout the loudest have the most to hide” … why all the sugary press about Fakey all of a sudden? What are they trying to hide / distract us from?

      It’s all a pile of sucking-up BS made up by someone who lives in Fantasyland.

      Yawn.

      I miss the Nanny – what’s she been up to lately? She’s a heck of a lot more interesting than Waisty ever was or will be.

  2. Mrs. Wellen Melon says:

    Is middle-class values code for not having a mistress?

    • Katydid20 says:

      I think it means only 2 nannies instead of 4. 😉

    • Citresse says:

      Maybe but Pa Middleton seems to be as much as a recluse lately as WandK and family.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        Rumors floating around trouble or questions concerning Midds Pa and Ma marriage, but I doubt they’d ever want to burst Williams bubble of happy perfect family and actually split!

    • Jib says:

      And for not working?? Do any of the three Middleton siblings work? Have they ever?? I know the brother was off gallivanting in the sea last week as his business failed.

      I don’t know any middle class people like this.

      And what will this author do if Mike and Carole divorce??? Heavens, my smelling salts!!

      • FLORC says:

        Pippa has worked as a weekly or monthly writer or editor of a Party Pieces newsletter like that weekly spam we all get in our email. And she has become a column writer here and there. Usually getting hired only for her name and her articles are more laughed upon. And then there was the book. If she took to imporoving her skills and not cashing in on the easiest ways letting those skills dull from lack of motivation I and others would sing a different tune.

        James has had 3 bankrupt businesses. He bails shortly after the fanfare ends and they just drown. He’s the owner/boss you see vacationing as his employees start to worry about where they can find more work once the current job goes under.

        And Kate has held 2 jobs that we know of for only weeks at a time. Jigsaw and Party Pieces.
        And as a side point. I’m FAR more interested in what Uncle Gary does for work. I mean, we know. Drugs and selling the attention of “young girls”, but I want him outted so badly.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        UG post work related tweets every so often now,
        He seems to have company , in London. It appears to have something to do with techies, computers , IT.

        The thing is, in his tweets, he seems less stressed than Carole appears and seems to live better than the Middleton’s financially in some ways, even though the press doesn’t say much about him on a financial level anymore. He seems to live quite well.

        P.S.He pulled James out of one of his previous financial failures, according to rumour.

      • FLORC says:

        Ysohawt1
        Uncle Gary has had that IT connection for a while now. Even during his time selling drugs and people. All business criminals worth their salt have “up and up” businesses. I want his real sources of income exposed and not buried in an article of W and K kissing before W climbs in to a car to drive home drunk.

        Gary has said he’s less concerned about his social standing than Carole. And the Midds gladly used Gary as a resource, but at the same time distance themselves from him. All the same to Gary since he doesn’t care much for being something he’s not.
        And I knew Gary was an investor in 2 of James’s businesses.

        Also, Gary might have sold his Casa de Bang Bang for a hefty sum. A house where Gary was caught on camera dealing drugs he stored in secret storage in the walls. Also where William partied with Kate and their friends a few times.

        The man is just straight forward and sketchy.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        UG didn’t sell Casa de Bang Bang, he still owns it, he rents it out for hefty sums though.

      • Imo says:

        Without delving into his slimy diversions Gary is a legitimate self-made millionaire. Before he was 35 he developed a tech company and sold it for more than $100M. That is no small sum. He went on to develop more tech products and is at the head of a multi-million dollar enterprise. The nature of tech plus his elevated profile gives him the time to pursue his less than honorable pastimes with his less than honorable friends. He’s Andrew without the laziness or his hand in mummy’s purse.

      • FLORC says:

        Ysoh
        Last I saw it was on the market for sale. That must have changed.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        He kept it.
        It’s on his Twitter account. He hired a management company who rents it for him.

        I think UG helped The Middleton’s financially I will always believe that.
        And we’ll never know who the Middleton’s silent partner is, they don’t have to reveal these things. It will take some really enterprising reporter to get those private company info or sources out.

        Something has always been fishy about finances of The Middleton’s IMO.

  3. als says:

    This reminds me of me and my older sister that is in a constant fight with our parents, constantly upset about everything they didn’t do for her. She tells everyone how awful they were, including me. At this point I am in doubt whether she is insane or maybe we were raised by different families.
    So, I have a personal beef with William the Idiot.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      We have the same sister. She really, really wanted a collie. They got a dachshund because my mother didn’t want shedding. She still acts like this, and few other incidents of the same nature, simply ruined her childhood, just ruined it. She’s 64. At some point, you know, you just have to move on. If you’re still whining about it 50 years later, that’s on you, not them.
      I think everyone needs to address harmful messages and hurts from their childhood, and everyone has them, regardless of how loving your parents tried to be. They’re human, and they brought their own baggage into parenting you. But after it’s addressed, and you work through it, move on. Forgive if you can for your own sake, and get past it. By dwelling on every unkind remark my parents ever made to her, every “unfair” punishment, every misunderstanding, my sister has denied herself and my parents the loving relationship they could have had for all these years, and she has stunted her own growth into an adult. It’s sad.

      • bluhare says:

        In our family it is the Coal In The Christmas Stocking Incident. Every bloody Christmas.

      • LAK says:

        B: i’m sorry, but that is hilarious! LOL.

        Cartoon quality and scrooge all rolled into one.

        Not fun for any one, but coal at christmas is so…….extra!

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Lol, bluhare. The incident that ruins Christmas. At least I just have to sprint around the corner if we see a random collie coming in our direction. It’s not a yearly thing.

      • Andrea says:

        I think it depends on what went on in your childhood. I have distanced myself from my mother even though she still remains miserable with my father (whom I am very close to) because my therapists in my 20’s advised me to. Most people say I should try to buddy up to her now that we are older, but when your earliest childhood memories are being beatened/threatened to be killed/ shouted abuse at you for crying over said abuse, distance is definitely best. I’ve moved past most of it (try not to think about it at all anymore) but it certainly will haunt my life to a certain degree nonetheless that I never had a caring loving mother and never will. Depending upon what William heard/witnessed/saw between his parents, some things are simply not completely forgotten.

      • frisbee says:

        I heard a good definition of forgiveness recently – it is “relinquishing the right to take revenge” – not forgetting (I doubt that there are many people who can genuinely forget a miserable childhood) but letting go has got to be easier in the long run.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        @Andrea
        I’m so sorry that happened to you, and yes, definitely – you need to do whatever it takes to heal and have a wonderful life. If that means distancing yourself from your mother, and that’s what’s best for you, then, of course you should do so. I should have made it clear that I’m just talking about minor, not abusive, mistakes that loving parents make – my normally sweet mother snapping at me for something I didn’t do when she was under stress, or my father’s inability to handle negative emotions to the the point where I felt guilty for being sad – things they didn’t do on purpose to leave a mark, but I needed to explore and then let go of. My sister is still holding on to all of these types of very minor issues. I am truly sorry that you didn’t have a loving mother, and it makes me even madder at my sister because she did – she just chooses to focus on a few mistakes rather than the overall picture.

      • Lizzieb says:

        You just described my sister. It’s uncanny.

      • Andrea says:

        They should meet me because I genuinely had a neglectful at times and then abusive at times mother and still do. It is only then, will perhaps they’d realize they really have nothing to complain about.

    • Ysohawt1 says:

      I think I may have the same sister. My mum sent her to nursing school, paid for it, helped her buy two homes, which she lost because she wouldn’t pay her own mortgage,once mum told her she would no longer pay it. Then mum raised sis kids, her grandchildren for several years, while sis wanted to go away to University after she lost the houses mum helped her get. Then mum bought her a car so she could drive back and forth to see her children from school….and yet all she does is complain how our mum never did Anything for her!!!

      People like William ,even if he doesn’t say it himself, who constantly convey a message of ungratefulness for some of the things his family has given him, perplex me.

    • Megan says:

      I can see why William is bitter about his childhood. I cannot imagine having my parents sex lives splashed all over the news. I would have begged to join a cloister.

  4. Nick says:

    “he has insisted on changes to the Royal way things are done.”

    Can’t disagree here. By showing no desire to do anything, he has changed the way things were typically done.

    • Red Snapper says:

      In my favorite biography of Diana by Sally Bedell Smith, she catalogues Diana’s claims to have conquered bulimia. There were a lot of these claims, and it was mostly just wishful thinking. These ‘William is embracing middle class values’ stories feel the same to me. I’m sure William would love to be ‘middle class’ whatever he thinks that means, but between the RPO’s, the palaces, the army of servants, the luxury vehicles, the five star holidays and the forelock tugging obedience to his every whim, he’s kidding himself.

      He doesn’t yet have a Petit Trianon but give it time.

      • jeanne says:

        @redsnapper I’ve never read that book. Is the author saying that Diana never conquered her bulimia?

      • Red Snapper says:

        It’s the best Diana bio there is, imo. The author says that there were phases when Diana’s bulimia was under control or in remission or what have you. But it tended to come back under times of great stress. I believe she was in a good place, eating disorder wise, during the last summer of her life, but who knows what would’ve happened if she had lived. The book alleges she suffered from Borderline Personality disorder, and Diana never addressed that. Sidenote: that book, and it’s description of BPD is what made me realize that I had it too. In that way, it changed my life.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        My favorite book on Diana and charles is The Housekeeper’s Diary. I loved it, everything was so detailed and it’s an eyewitness view from the Housekeeper who worked for them.
        They ran her out of the Country after she wrote that book.

      • FLORC says:

        Ysoh
        The Housekeeper’s Diary was what it was. An angry employee venting the secrets like a fly on the wall. Putting a tone and bias of it aside it detailed an extreme perspective to counter the perfect fairytale image being sold.
        Like anything there was truh in between the lines. I enjoyed it as an easy read, but I had to put aside how the woman was dismissed. That still shouldn’t discredit her information. Just that the perspective and tone was disgruntled. As we’ve come to know now this was all on point with how awful the marriage was on both ends.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        I loved the Housekeepers Diary,
        I loved that it was one of the early books on the couple, it wasn’t painted by the strokes of all the other regurgitated things which came in later books

        Highly recommended it.

      • Hazel says:

        Yeah, the article’s author would have us believe William is both middle class & getting comfortable with his royal status. Puh-leeze.

  5. GiGi says:

    I can believe William doesn’t employ the same level of staff as the older royals. Charles was raised with valets doing everything. And Charles believes very strongly in those notions. I don’t think he buttons his own shirts or puts toothpaste on his own toothbrush, for example. I don’t think Will & Harry were raised with that level of attendance because of Diana.

    • Natalie says:

      William borrows Charles’ staff, including a valet. At least he used to during the first few years of the marriage. I think at this point he’s hired his own. Charles is definitely cossetted but William’s not much better. It’s just semantics with William.

      • LAK says:

        Yep, William’s valet was hired with great fan fare and when you look at the various tours that William has taken, the valet is pictured with the accompanying staff exiting the planes.

        Also, William had his first personal valet at 10yrs old.

      • bluhare says:

        Is this the guy who’s valet and driver? I can’t believe William needs a full time valet. Tell me he doesn’t have a full time valet. The guy would get him ready to go to EAAA!

      • notasugarhere says:

        It is a sad day when we know more about the royals than the people writing the books. Simple details that anyone can find. Breaking tradition by having her family in the christening photos? Nobody told Sophie and Fergie because their families are in their kids’ official christening photos too.

        Someone pointed out that they’re following the tradition of overworking staff. Remember the ad for the housekeeper? A position charged with everything from care of all the clothing to washing the dog. No wonder the first one fled Anmer after a couple of months.

        Gigi, the toothpaste was when Charles had a broken collarbone and of course he buttons his own buttons. A valet takes care of the clothing (cleaning, pressing, sets them out, packs for tours). He might help Charles shrug into a jacket but I think he dresses himself.

      • LAK says:

        B: yes. Valet is also occasional driver.

    • MinnFinn says:

      Middletons don’t have any staff to iron their shoe laces and that’s the middle class values that have brushed off on Willy.

    • Ysohawt1 says:

      William lives in Palaces, has someone who shines his boots and lays out his riding clothes and prepares his horse when he ventures out to play Polo. William orders helicopters to get him to Stag Parties of friends, William has his clothes laid out and ready to wear, never having to lift a iron, William has a mansion given to him by his Grandmother the Queen, a Palace Apartment in Kensignton Palace, a fleet of Rolls Royce or Bentleys ready to drive him where ever he chooses. Audi’s at his ready, with never a car payment he had to earn.
      William has never had to pay a mortgage or worry about how he will pay for cost of decorations.
      William has a 130,000$ tennis court being specifically designed for his own pleasure.
      William has NO CLUE what Middleclass means and never will and Carole and Kate wanted to get as far away from Middleclass as possible ……they somehow needed a Manor home as soon asWilliam and Kate married.

      IMO William is a hypocrite!

  6. Tanya says:

    He’s annoying, but I don’t get judgement over his parents’ divorce and his mom’s death. He was the oldest; I’m guessing he understood what was going on in a way Harry didn’t. Some people are more resilient than others. I may not have riches or a crown, but no way I would trade the ability to call my mom up when I need her, or her relationship with my kids, for his life.

    • epiphany says:

      While I completely understand the annoyance some feel at William’s ongoing “trauma” incurred from his parent’s divorce, the fact is, Diana used William as emotional support and a confidante while she and Charles were breaking up. That’s a huge burden for a child to endure, and because of that, he probably does bear the scars of his parent’s martial problems, as Diana undoubtedly confided things to him that he should never have known, let alone heard from his mother.

      • aaa says:

        Agree.

      • taxi says:

        William was about 5 years old when Diana started treating him as her crying towel & confiding her unhappiness to him. Children often blame themselves for all sorts of adult mishaps but William was unfairly burdened with the responsibility of trying to make mommy “happy.” Don’t know if he ever saw or heard any of her threats of suicide, which were fairly melodramatic but didn’t have desired effect on Chuck. I’m not one of Will’s fans, but I do think childhood trauma can have lifelong effects. Mad mothers usually choose the first-born child as the recipient of emotional outpourings.

    • Pandy says:

      I can’t imagine what his/their life is like. Privileged, but at a huge cost. I can’t imagine always wondering if people really like you or if they are just using you. Always someone filming you, always pointing and looking … and he was born into it, he didn’t ask for it. And royal duties are dull. I’m not surprised he’s trying to live as normally as possible while he can. I think Diana started them wanting a bit of normalcy and Kate has encouraged it. I think it’s a good thing.

      • wolfie says:

        Kate didn’t want normal, she wanted royal! Carole didn’t bring middle-class values, she brought social climbing for luxury and standing. Together, they are willing to ignore many of the Queen’s traditions (and she’s so old, poor thing). I’m sure that Charles isn’t comfortable with all the values the Middleton’s have brought with them.

      • notasugarhere says:

        “And royal duties are dull. ” That’s your opinion. Members of the BRF set their own schedules and build their own body of work. W&K choose to do movie premieres and yachting events instead of more usual royal work, and mostly ignore everyday visits to the charities in favor of glitzy events.

        Going out and meeting people, learning about their achievements and hopes and what makes them proud, finding out what they need to make their lives better and how you might be able to help? Seems interesting to me.

      • bluhare says:

        I’m with wolfie. I imagine opening endless hospital wings shaking lots of hands while making banal small talk, and cutting zillions of ribbons get old. If it was that much fun, I wouldn’t think they’d have as much trouble actually doing it!

        That being said, I wish my job were so dull and people as happy to see me sometimes.

    • aaa says:

      Undoubtedly his parents’ messy and high profile split and Diana’s tragic death had a lasting impact on William and that will be addressed in any book or lengthy article about him.

      I am critical of William about many things but he’s not a criminal, not beating up people out of displaced anger and so forth, so I don’t have a problem with the mere acknowledgement that William’s parents’ divorce had a lasting effect on him.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        IMO William needed a therapist, to help him work out his self esteem issues, instead of hooking up with the Vampire Middleton family and marriage to Kate in his twenties.

      • wolfie says:

        It’s pitiful if William chooses to see himself as a victim all of his life; so much for the stiff British upper lip and getting on with it, and how wretched for a man who would be king.

      • Vava says:

        It’s not too late for him to get therapy.

  7. InvaderTak says:

    Sappy. And pure pr. I guess it’s good that someone likes them?

  8. Imo says:

    I think George and Charlotte are going to have a charmed childhood and I approve of that goal. I only wonder what will happen after that. The Cambridges can’t continue their work shy ways indefinitely nor can they negate the reality that their children belong, in large part, to the commonwealth. How can they acclimate George and Charlotte to the outrageous media scrutiny they are going to encounter if they’re coddled away in the countryside. There has to be some middle ground. I don’t think William and Kate will even pretend to strike a compromise between public and private life until Charles takes the throne. Even then I have doubts.

    • FLORC says:

      Imo
      They’re going to be the ones doing the greatest damage to G and C if they refuse to acclimate them. It’s a selfish agenda they have.

      • Megan says:

        Putting a toddler in a terrifying situation they cannot possibly understand seems like a bad idea to me. No one expects rock stars should bring their babies to concerts to acclimate them to loud noise and screaming crowds.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Victoria and Daniel introduced Estelle to crowds very young (a few months old), that’s why she doesn’t fear them.

      • FLORC says:

        Megan
        IMO
        Estelle is the gold standard on how a young royal in direct line should be raised.
        That said not all babies are the same. And that said George slowly getting use to seeing the crowds is key to not associating fear with them. This must happen consistently too. More than 2 or 3 times a year.
        And it’s not screaming crowds as a norm. These events can be very controlled and him just meeting people while near his nanny and parents will associate confidence.

        To keep him away from those scenerios and to read off of his parents those don’t matter or are viewed as burdens are factors he could carry with him from even this age on.

        Also, something Estelle has to maintain her personal privacy while handling the public and press. Controlled releases of photos and videos for certain occasions. It’s under the parents full control. WK might already have a camcorder on George recording him as he grows. Would he know the difference like what is on Estelle’s page?

      • Megan says:

        FLORC — I have some vague recollection that Estelle is from Denmark, Sweden, or Belgium, but I have no idea who who parents are. I’ve been to all of these countries and I didn’t see all of the royal family souvenirs I have seen in England, Scotland, Ireland, Jamaica, St. Lucia, Australia, and New Zealand. In fact, I had no idea they had royal families until I started following Majesty Magazine on Facebook.

        William grew up in the public eye. I have to assume his desire to protect his children is born of experience. Also, I think it is so arrogant to assume you know better than William and Kate how to raise their children. You have no frame of reference for what it means to grow up hounded by paparazzi.

      • FLORC says:

        Megan
        Estelle is the daughter of Daniel and CP Victoria.
        They’re covered here every few weeks. Recently the Prince Carl and his new wife Sofia are the brother and sister in law to them.

        What happened with Estelle is she leads a private life, but the public is still a part of it. V and D made a family video of them making Christmas Cookies 1 year and Estelle adorably had enough and walked out on production.
        She also has gone with her mother to basic events she will have to do and this common repetition has done wonders to ease her into this being comfortable.
        Estelle also has her own instagram account. Private photos are taken for this account and milestones so the public can ooo and aahh over while she keeps her normalcy.

        And you say arrogant. I say common sense. William is only making the press angry and teasing/insulting them with promises never fulfilled. Then threats that he’s tried before and the courts have told him to stop trying to sttrip the press of their freedoms. It’s not an issue of privacy. It’s an issue of control and power.
        And William has had blanket protection from the press. It’s lifted when he wants it lifted. What he’s having trouble with now imo is instant access to social media without pr approval and the old tricks no longer working. He must adapt and adjust. And raising George privately is fine. But long term is a disservice to him as he will be ill prepared for his future duties. Unless it’s expected he avoid them at all costs.
        Lastly, this protection of George was a ploy to get all photos of him in public flat out banned so only 1 or 2 chosen photogs are allowed to snap George. And for this pass they will have a business contract with William. We know from the past William has sold oportunities to snap and photos of George for cash and favors. So, this angle of George growing up without cameras is to play on the hearts and minds of those fearing for his safety. And any safety concerns do not fall on anyone except the RPOs. If any real threat to George has come up the RPOs would be the only ones at fault. But they aren’t. So that’s tough to ignore.

  9. Castor & Pollux says:

    I can’t imagine how tedious that book is. The excerpt repeated the same things over and over…William makes his own decisions, he’s no longer hindered by his upbringing, he’s protecting his family because he has middle class values now. Huh? What exactly are those middle class values that have changed his life so dramatically? The one thing I’ll give him is that he has a ‘normal’ job (where he surely receives no special treatment, wink wink). Everything else about these two screams pampered royalty! And there’s nothing wrong with that…just be straight with us!

    • Imo says:

      Therein lies the problem: the PR and the reality don’t always mesh well. The disconnect is often glaring. It gives the sugars a reason to rally around the Cambridges and the haters more justification to be unrelentingly critical. But there are those who have learned to deftly extricate fact from fluff while forming informed hypotheses about the rest.

    • bluhare says:

      They’ve been screaming that stuff for years now.

    • FLORC says:

      Yes to Castor. Yes to Imo. And Yes to Bluhare.

      My head hurts from the severe eye roll attack that article gave me. You just know people will take this as honest fact. Ugh.

  10. C. C. Cedras says:

    Not an apologist for this guy at all, but I have been the eldest child in a divorce situation whose mother leaned heavily on me before, during and all the many many years since the breakup of my parents’ marriage. I can attest that my younger siblings have been able to live more freely out from under the influence of an emotionally clingy mother and establish and maintain boundaries way more easily than I. We’re all scarred and, bless her because she’s still living, still deal with the narcissism and manipulation to this day. My brother has done it best, he just doesn’t “receive” what she’s sending. Sigh.

    • Jenns says:

      I hear you. I was an only child to an emotionally fragile mother who treated me as both her best friend and her shrink from a very early age. I had to hear things that no child should hear and that really does have a major affect on your life. And I didn’t realize how much is affected me until after my mother died and the manipulation was over.

      • Dena says:

        My situation too but unlike William I haven’t made the world pay for my mom’s fragility. In terms of birth order, I’m the youngest of four.

  11. LAK says:

    Of course Nanny Maria wasn’t at PGtips’s christening. She hadn’t been hired yet. What we had was Nanny Jessie who wasn’t in uniform.

    Blah, blah,blah mummy blah, blah,blah diana’s babies blah blah blah…….but what about Harry in all of this?

    Kids growing up in the same family can have different parenting from the same parents, but I wish the media didn’t indulge William in victimising his mother all over again and ignoring Harry every time they do it.

    • bluhare says:

      Thank you!! I was scrolling down to see if someone had already said it. That right there lost any credibility it might have had as far as I’m concerned.

      • FLORC says:

        Yup and yup.
        I have no more f-s to give on this. It’s a prime example of fan fiction. Even a Cambridge fan has to take a step back and say… This is over the top fluff. Why do they have to try so hard to push an image that should be clear if true?

  12. Dena says:

    Lol. Kate kind of looks like the Grinch on the 2nd pic. All else that can be said about these two have been said. Over and over again. And that’s a real shame.

  13. Natalie says:

    They need to come up with new pr strategies. Like the concept of thrifty Kate is done at this point. She’s now three kitchen, Mustique, tennis court Kate and it damages her image far more for trying to pull off something so far from the truth.

    It will the same for middle-class-values-Middletons primarily because the Middletons and William don’t have the discipline to stay on message. Signet rings, loads of expensive vacations and very little work, skipping memorials but going to Wimbeldon-it’s just a matter of time. Better to only fudge the truth and leave room for debate than being short-sighted and vain about their image.

    • Red Snapper says:

      Remember when Kate was The Children’s Princess because of her deep commitment to hospices? Were we ever so young! *sighs*

      • bluhare says:

        I could have a real rant going about that, but luckily for everyone here I have to go to work!

      • notasugarhere says:

        Showing up in head-to-toe-black at a Children’s hospice once, spending 15 minutes at another in NZ. Gosh how caring, aware, and kind of her! (hint, sarcasm)

      • Natalie says:

        Hey, it could still happen. She will hit the ground running and take it in her stride. After all, she’s never put a foot wrong.

        It would be so easy for Kate to “work.” She could release a personally designed Christmas card or something like that, have her staff handle the whole thing and give the proceeds to children’s hospices and top it off by making one awkward and short appearance and be immensely praised. But then they would have to actually publically donate the money unlike whatever happened to William’s helicopter salary “private” donation.

    • Ysohawt1 says:

      William needs to put his money where his mouth is and give up his position, his Palace and go live a middle class life. I’m so sick of how he is supposedly living middle class, as he rides his Polo ponies, back to his Palace where the servant is waiting to take shine his boots for him and fresh clothes are already laid out.

      He’s so full of crap.
      Just give up your position and go live a middle class life and be done with it.

    • Hazel says:

      Caribbean Kate, better ring to it.

  14. littlemissnaughty says:

    I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. And I enjoy royal gossip. I’m also not a UK citizen so …

  15. Anna says:

    How come he’s just becoming a “better” man now that he’s a father? I don’t get why they are trying to associate his “confidence” with Kate’s or the Middleton’s “calming and stabilising influence”. He’s been with Kate for 10+ years.

  16. Deedee says:

    Charlotte’s christening looked and felt like an historical tableau, carefully staged and costumed. Nothing about it seemed real. I had the same feeling watching William and Kate’s wedding. This is all carefully crafted to present a certain image, but it’s all papier mache’.

    • suze says:

      Exactly – it was hardly a “normal” christening. Everything about it was stage managed to the nth degree including the god awful Photoshopped to heaven photos.

      The same thing about the wedding. I’ve watched lots of royal weddings and there is almost always some human moment that comes through – including the infamous waterworks at Charlene/Alberts wedding – but the Cambridges could have been paper dolls for all the emotion that was displayed.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        I didn’t like William and Kate’s wedding at all, it was cold, stiff, William looked like he was doing a chore.

      • Citresse says:

        Honeymoon a chore too I guess.

      • notasugarhere says:

        These two don’t usually vacation with friends but with her family. They took a pile of friends on the honeymoon. Why the need to bring all those extra people along as a buffer? Why not be alone?

    • daisy says:

      You are so right

  17. original kay says:

    I fell for the PR. I admit it, I think this is a truer version of events, opposed to media manipulation.

    I also think that 2 kids can be in the same household and have 2 completely different childhoods, so the argument that Harry seems fine is not logical to me.

    I also agree that as an adult, we need to let go of the past and move forward, make our own choices, and I think that’s what William is trying to do. Just because he is not embracing royal life the way the public, or the royals, want him to doesn’t mean he isn’t moving forward.

    I think Will was very scarred by his past and Kate has helped him, her family. I think he loves her, and it’s not a marriage of convenience. I also think Harry has his own scars and deals with them differently- then again, he has the advantage of not being the future king so he can fly under the radar slightly more.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      I think they love each other, too, and agree with what you said about childhood and moving on. I think this is maybe a little sugar coated, but I also this the “Kate is a recluse” and they’re living separate lives stuff is made up. I wish they would work harder, but other than that, I think there’s a lot of invented controversy surrounding them.

      • Ysohawt1 says:

        Kate has said several times about William not being with her for moths at a time…when Kate was on the NZ tour she said herself, after Georges birth, William had not been home for the first several months of Georges life….

        All one has to do is really read through some of Kate’sown statement out of her own mouth to see that William comes and goes as he pleases and spends huge chunks of time Away from her.

        No I don’t believe that the notion that they have chunks of time living away from each other is made up. I think William comes and goes as he pleases. Kate won’t complain as long as she is his wife.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        I think there is a difference between living separate lives and spending time apart. Winston Churchill and Clementine Churchill spent more time apart than they did together, but they had a loving, happy marriage. That’s what I meant.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Spending the first six months of your first child’s life mostly away from wife and child? That isn’t “spending time apart” that is living separate lives.

    • Ravine says:

      “Just because he is not embracing royal life the way the public, or the royals, want him to doesn’t mean he isn’t moving forward.”

      That’s very true. There’s this notion that because he’s “supposed” to be King one day, he is naturally to be judged according to how well he performs the 2nd-in-line role. So, if he does lots of events and seems to enjoy his job, he’s doing well as a human being, whereas if he seems reluctant to take on these duties, uh-oh, William is a mess.

      If you think about it, that’s an insane way of looking at a person. If you were suddenly forced into a job you didn’t pick and (perhaps) weren’t suited for, and then harshly criticized for being unengaged, that would be awful. (And no, I don’t think the perks would really matter. It’s been shown that extrinsic rewards do not increase motivation, and in fact usually decrease it.)

  18. Betti says:

    I wish they would stop with the whole middle class thing – its annoying the hell out of me. Having good values is not solely a middle class things – its something everyone should have. Thou if we do actually examine the Middleton values then they are very middle class – the Hyacinth Bucket middle class values.

    Well i guess these ‘values’ are the only thing they can sell about her and her family – its not as if they actually do any work.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      That annoys me, too. There are upper, middle and lower class people with and without values, who do or don’t cherish their families, who do or don’t work hard. That’s just such crap.

      • suze says:

        Exactly. You can have admirable values in any walk of life.

        I know some perfectly middle class people with less than stellar “values”.

      • Deedee says:

        I know people of all classes who are using their time and talent and making sacrifices for the greater good. “To whom much is given, much will be required.” Will and Kate have all the resources in the world. Squandering them is such a waste.

    • daisy says:

      Betti you have said what I think

  19. suze says:

    Anything titled, “Diana’s Babies…” is going to be vomit worthy.

    Can someone who understands the British code decipher exactly what “middle class values:” are? We know the Midds are hardly living what an American would think of as a middle class life, so I need to know what exactly are these “values” that the British press keeps talking about?

    Also, while I am at it, why has Michael MIddleton gone undercover?

  20. mayamae says:

    William does pout and whine about things, but it’s not necessarily fair to compare him to Harry in this instance. Didn’t Diana make William her confidant? I remember reading stories about Diana locking herself in a room crying hysterically, and William slipping her tissues under the door.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It is important to remember that everything was exaggerated during the War of the Waleses. Diana admitted to leaning on William, but the boys were away at school the majority of the time.

    • Imo says:

      Exaggerated? Perhaps but even the verified dynamics between Diana and William are quite problematic. The War of the Wales spin as an excuse always seems to favor Charles. No coincidence as he has been able to rebrand almost everything about Diana before and certainly since her death. Keeping it classy *eyeroll*

      • wolfie says:

        It’s too bad Diana isn’t here to throw in her two cents in the continuing saga in the War of the Wales. Just because she is gone, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t rage on in parts of the royal household – quite possibly between Charles and William. Charles has to continue this game for Camilla’s crown. There has to be a choosing of sides in the family – I wonder what William makes of the Queen’s comment about someone greasing the brakes on Diana’s car. Just imagine how different things would be for both her boys, if she were still with us. It could have been so delightfully soapy. Without Diana sharing, we just have to imagine what goes on behind closed doors. I put all my bets on Carole being on the side of Diana, which would be a huge comfort for William, the thumb sucker.

      • FLORC says:

        Wolfie
        1 thing we would find extremely likely. Kate would not have gotten near William. If Diana had her wishes met he would have gone to the states for schooling.I doubt Kate wouuld have ever met William.

      • Jib says:

        @wolfie,
        If Diana were alive, there is NO WAY that grasping, manipulative Carole would have forced her way and her daughter into William’s life. Can you imagine?? Diana would have seen right through her and that would have been the end of that.

      • aurelia says:

        You guys are right. Its true, they say Diana had the “common touch” but she didn’t mean to marry one! Ouch.

  21. Eleonor says:

    Sooo…now Royal Fan Fiction is a thing ?

  22. Birdix says:

    William is as interested in middle class morality/values as Alfred Dolittle, and for the same reason –it would require him to have responsibilties, to live for others rather than just himself.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Bill Middleton, Common Dustman.

    • Pondering thoughts says:

      Exactly.
      He probably likes the royal status and the royal money and the royal residences.
      And he likes it that middle class people don’t have royal responsibilites and duties.
      And he wants to combine both.
      He doesn’t get that that is not possible.

      • wolfie says:

        He thinks it is possible to have it all – he will be “king”, after all, as he was so fond of saying when he was a little boy. He has grown up into one of the most entitled human beings ever, *in his own mind*, being both middle class and royal (only the good parts of each), don’t you think?.

  23. Ysohawt1 says:

    William needs to walk the walk and give up his place in line and stop taking money and go live his own life and work his job, pay mortgage or buy his own home,with his inheritance and get away from Royal life and go live in the Countryside and make his own way and live the middleclass dream without taking money from daddyandQueen, etc.

  24. COSquared says:

    Dear Billy,
    Stop.
    *Not everyone falls for your drivel.
    *Give up yo place in the succession.
    *Your whining against royal duties while fully reaping the benefits of being royal is an insult to the taxpayer.0
    *NOTE: The Diana card won’t last forever.

    Signed,
    A disappointed, annoyed royal watcher.
    PS: AMEN TO SOUTH AFRICA’S INDEPENDENCE FROM THE UK!

  25. Jib says:

    Middle class??? HA!!! I liked the story about the Queen making Kate “the recluse” attend her celebration dinner next month. The headline actually said “recluse.” The knives are sharpening for these two Do-Nothings.

  26. margie says:

    This is in all seriousness. What if Kate has post partum depression? This would explain a lot. I had it, not so severe that I wanted to harm myself or my kids, but severe enough that it was a struggle to show up to work, to get out of bed, to not think if dying wouldn’t be so bad. Can you imagine having PPD, with the world’s eyes on you? And after the fact, people can become great ambassadors for a cause, but if she is currently struggling with it, she isn’t going to make herself the poster child. And if it isn’t something they want known, that would explain a lot of the dodgy-ness. She might be a petulant, spoiled, reluctant, lazy middle-class sausage, or she could have PPD. Just a thought.

    • COSquared says:

      I don’t believe it.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Please see comment #7 on today’s other royal thread.

    • wolfie says:

      If there were a possible violin, to be played for Kate sympathy, it would have already have been done.

    • mm says:

      Kate hasn’t shown any signs of becoming an ambassador for hyperemesis gravidarum, either.

    • FLORC says:

      Nota
      I’m #7! Thanks 🙂

      Margie
      Here everything laid out. Kate does much in her day. Personal trainer meeting. Shopping and interacting socially with the shop workers and her staff that goes with her on these.
      She’s made time for things like Polo and George PR pics. The sailing event that she didn’t have to go to since it was cancelled. Hair appointments. Tennis matches. Meeting Pitt and Jolie for well past the time they were scheduled to. And the list goes on and on.

      What PPD does is brutal in reality. Kate would show signs of being withdrawn from everything. Fun or not. She wouldn’t be out smiling and chatting up sales clerks. She might not get so dressed up to go out. And you’d see her pain on her face. The not wanting to be there or withdrawn expression. That we’ve seen she only displays this during events that are thought to bore her. She’s quite expressive and appears to have genuine smiles on for the “fun” events

      This PPD has been created by the press as a way to justify Kate’s lack of work, but it holds no water since Kate has made time for prefered events.

      Real PPD is serious and needs to be addressed if you think you have it. Kate has displayed no symptoms and much behavior to counter any suggestion of it imo.
      And just like past methods of exploiting and explaining usingPPD to explain way someone who never wanted to work before doesn’t currently belittles the true seriousness of the illness.

      Even to ask it hypothetically makes me feel ill.
      And that’s awful you had it, but good you’ve overcome it.

      The key difference in all of this I hope i’m stating clearly is Kate has made time for things and has wanted to do them. She gets dressed up and doesn’t appear to be struggling. If anything beyond happy to be doing what she chooses to do. The only times we hear she can’t work is when it’s an event she’s displayed pattern behavior of disliking and avoiding for years. And well before she was pregnant. I hope i’ve stated my point clearly if a bit ranting and repeatings.

  27. The Original Mia says:

    What a load of rubbish. I swear I felt a cavity forming. Middle class values? What exactly does that mean? Even the richest person can be a family man and instill good, strong values in their kids. See: Bill Gates. All the Middletons have done is to enable William and allow his worst traits to manifest. He’s a man child throwing the longest, most annoying temper tantrum in the history of his family. He needs to step aside if he isn’t going to commit to being a royal. Be Bill Middleton with all the limitations that come with having a certain income. But he won’t do that because he’s really just a spoiled manchild.

  28. COSquared says:

    Where art thou, Liberty & thy ficlets?

  29. MickeyM says:

    Echoing an earlier commentator: what exactly are these ‘middle class values’ that we keep hearing about? I don’t get it.

    • India Andrews says:

      Middle class values usually champion an homest days work. Something Kate and William know nothing about except what they’ve read on the internet.

  30. Tracy says:

    “Harry also grew up with the same divorced parents and you don’t see him banging on endlessly about how his life is garbage because of his difficult childhood.”

    Well, keep in mind that we never actually hear William “banging on endlessly” about it, either. What conclusions the media may come to have no bearing on William’s actual perspective, as he has never stated publicly what his feelings are about his childhood. Calm down.

    • Jib says:

      Look at his body language – his jaw is always clenched.

      And it’s really rude to tell people to calm down.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The clenched fist, jazz hand to stretch it out, and back to perpetual clenched fist aren’t good signs either.

      • Ravine says:

        So, in response to “he doesn’t talk about his family, so we don’t know his thoughts on the matter,” your response is “yes we do, because he clenches his jaw!” “Yeah, and also he flexes his hand! Case closed!”

        Just… wow. I hope you two never do jury duty. Seriously.

    • LAK says:

      Several times a year, usually to defend himself having been either criticised publicly or caught out in a lie, WK’s press office sends out a statement that says the media are behaving to WK like they did towards Diana. Whether or not that’s true, the implication writ large is that WK are being victimised like his mother. It’s also used in PR planted stories to explain away their negative behaviour eg Kate can’t work because Diana worked too much…..that was the favourite refrain pre-babies after the fake Malta story had stopped working on the public.

      This statement always makes the media back-off or tread softly because public love for Diana is still rabid. And the public tends to give him a pass because of the invoked Diana card.

      By contrast, no one has ever used the Diana card on Harry’s behalf. When he is caught out or criticised, he usually accepts the criticism and no invoking of Diana to garner public sympathy on his side such that the media or public back off or tread softly.

      Royal Press offices, unlike press offices for commercial enterprises, do not act independently of the royal’s wishes except for very good reasons. William may not say those words directly, but he is happy with the press office invoking Diana otherwise he would ask them to stop.

  31. perplexed says:

    Is Harry referred to in the book? The title says “Diana’s Babies: Kate, William, and The Repair of a Broken Family.” I don’t get why Kate is included in the title if the book is supposed to be about Diana’s “babies.”

  32. anon says:

    William’s gay. BRF aren’t personally fussed about it, but worry it won’t be accepted nationally and internationally. Kate works hard as a beard and baby-mama.

    Absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Just an idea.

    • LAK says:

      Perhaps it’s the new morality in this modern age, BUT being gay is no bar to the throne. Infact, we’ve had a couple of gay monarchs and some who are best described as tri-anything sexuals.

  33. SavageGrace says:

    Obvious Middleton PR is very obvious. Per usual.

    Excuse me while I go puke… x_x

  34. Bea says:

    So can we describe these most precious middle class values as social climbing, lazy bumming and piggybacking or am I missing something?

  35. TripleThreat says:

    I see Kate has been watching Pixiwoo youtube channel. Going for the glamor brows
    British beauty blogger of yore. Check out her Bardot and Liz Taylor vids. Life changing

  36. chrissy says:

    To be fair to William, his parents divorced..yes…but then his mother the parent he was arguably closer too was killed in a car accident very publicly by paparazzi. I would be cagey as well if that happened to me.

  37. anne_000 says:

    I understand that W&K and their PR team are trying to garner support from the majority of the public, the middle class, but how they’re re-defining what middle class values are is insulting.

    Anytime people expect something from them but they can’t be bothered to do it, their pat answer is “Middle class values.”

    They are definitely showing that they think the public is stupid and gullible. They apparently believe all you have to do is throw out adjectives and the public will be dumb enough to accept them at face value.

  38. Kaianne says:

    If Kate did bring some normalcy in William life, good for her. Yes it was difficult for William to trust people after what happened to his mother, he was old enough to remember what she was going through before her death. Damn if she do and damn if she didn’t. The same opinion now being thrown to his wife and himself. “Damn if they do and damn if they don’t” People will always concoct hurtful stories about them, like they were in their lives 24 hours a day and has first hand knowledge.

    Sometimes opinion is so unbelievably crazy for example the Middleton are social climbing parasites etc. They may be, but they made their own money and Carol sure work hard for their millions, it was not a public hands out. Unlike some other royals who are forever on holidays and using taxpayers money, but it is okay because they are royal born yeah?

    William inherited around $30 million from Diana’s estates plus precious jewelries and her personal effects worth millions.
    He probably spent some of that monies for home renovations and other purchases which people right away judging him of using public monies. William is rich on his own right thanks to his mother legacy.
    Middleton paid for own holidays and their day to day expenses. If they were on the limelight it is probably because people are interested reading the article about them like we do now. Otherwise, if we are not interested about Middleton and royal lives, we won’t be reading this article and commenting.

    • Betti says:

      Willy is tight and has never spent a penny of his own money – he lives off his father and the tax payer. Its well known that he’s tight with his own money. Kate’s clothes and decorating are paid for by Charles (as is the new tennis court). Its been documented in the press that he called a villa owner on Mustique asking to stay there (with her and her family) for free – I think this was Pippa’s bf’s boss.

      The Middletons have never paid for their holidays on Mustique – they’ve always gone comp and staying in places for free owned by ‘friends’. They’ve cashed in on their royal connections for years – Kate even got a leased car (during the GF years) at a massively reduced price because of who she was dating.

      PS the Middletons are not worth millions – they are not as wealthy as they like us all to think. When they were buying their current home their finances were public for short time and it showed how much debt they had – at some point they remortgaged their old home to fund either their business or their children. Not to mention how Uncle Gary admits to giving that family an endless supply of money. It is rumoured that William either loaned or gifted them the money to buy Bucklebury cash down and renovations to the property were made by the tax payer to make it more secure for when the Dolittles visit.

      A bit of research online verifies all this.

      • Kaianne says:

        Kate family worths 2011
        http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/politician/royal/middleton-family-net-worth/

        No matter what Kate do, theres always a knockers around.
        If she dress nice with top of the rack clothing’s, she is branded spendthrift with tax payers money.
        If she dress down, she is called commoner who doesn’t know how to dress like a royalty.
        Thank goodness William loves her for who she is, and our opinion does not affect him one iota.

      • FLORC says:

        Sarcasm?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Links won’t go through for me. Try searching for
        The Telegraph
        Royal Wedding: Middletons’ money – how was it made?
        The firm Party Pieces is credited with making the family fortune. Andrew Gilligan examines the figures

        A lot of the Middleton wealth appears to be smoke and mirrors, including the need for the multiple mortgages on the first home and the large foreign mortgage on the new one.

        William didn’t inherit $30 million from Diana. Her estate was valued at £17.5 million at the time and would have increased somewhat in value. William received half and paid significant inheritance tax on it.

        K, the People’s opinion does matter. If the People get fed up with them, W&K are out.

      • FLORC says:

        Then there was that time where it was outed the Midds were double mortgaged before buying this current estate. For a brief moment when they applied for a loan at the financial institution where Nico works and the hedge fund friends they use the home of on mustique. The debt was thought to be over the wedding expenses. Later they withdrew the application and paid cash, but it was rumored heavily William helped them out.

        And it’s no secret the Midds money numbers have been fudged for years while Gary is rolling in it from unsavory ways and has helped them out greatly.

        The damned do/don’t is imo a defense that shuts down any counter points. Not because it’s lacking, but because it’s simply a counter point and goes against your side. Cambridges win all the time. This is overlooked constantly though.

        Outside of the loan slip up the Midds finances are incredibly shady and no one knows an exact number they can make very close estimated guesses. And it’s no where near what is thought. They’re wealthy, but not as the pr and lifestyle would suggest. Much they have is loaned or gifted.

      • Betti says:

        Also didn’t they get ‘loaned’ furniture from the royal ‘storage’? Gee, talk about the freebie 5.

        I’ve always thought that Party Pieces was a laundering front for Uncle Gary and his shady business deals. Their has to be an ulterior reason for his continued financial support of James’ hair brained and failed businesses.

  39. Karen says:

    Kate Middleton turns British monarchy into a joke.