Update by Celebitchy: Despite a grim prognosis earlier in the day, E! Online reports that Lamar Odom is out of his coma, off a breathing tube and breathing on his own. They also report that he opened his eyes, saw Khloe by his side and said “hey baby” to her and gave her a thumbs up. After that he fell back asleep. It doesn’t sound like he’s out of the woods yet, but this is incredible news!
Lamar Odom’s medical situation is reportedly worse than ever. Yesterday, TMZ got some updates on his situation, with sources telling TMZ that “even if he survives he has virtually no chance of ever leading a normal life…Our sources say doctors continue to put Lamar’s chances of survival at 50/50.” His vital organs are failing. The Kardashians have asked specialists from LA to come to Las Vegas to consult. Meanwhile, People Magazine has this exclusive:
Lamar Odom’s loved ones are preparing for the worst as the former NBA star remains hospitalized. Odom, 35, is breathing with the help of a ventilator as his ex Khloé Kardashian remains by his side, according to a source close to the family.
“It’s hard for Khloé. He is on his last leg,” the source tells PEOPLE.
The source says Odom, who was found unconscious at a Nevada brothel on Tuesday, has been on life support since arriving at Sunrise Hospital in Las Vegas. The source says Odom’s condition has not improved in the days since.
“Everyone wanted to hope for the best, but nothing has changed. Now they are preparing for the worst,” the source says.
Kardashian, 31, was joined in the days following his hospitalization by sisters Kim Kardashian West, Kourtney Kardashian, Kendall Jenner and Kylie Jenner, as well as mother Kris Jenner.
Khloé Kardashian filed for divorce from Odom in 2013 after four years of marriage. Both signed divorce papers in July, but they are still legally married since a judgment has not yet been entered in court. That has left her in charge of Odom’s medical care.
“Khloé has always loved him,” the source says. “And that has never changed and if he didn’t have issues, they would be together. She’s devastated.”
God, this is just so sad. It’s also known that Lamar’s ex-wife and his two kids are there in Vegas and there doesn’t seem to be any bickering between the two sides of Lamar’s family. I know there’s a lot of discussion about the Kardashian-Jenner clan’s motives here, but is it so hard to believe that Khloe is hanging on by a thread and they’re just trying to support her? Khloe has said publicly, in interview after interview, that she wished she and Lamar were still together, that she still loved him deeply. It’s not a flame-war… it’s just sad.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
if he passes, I hope he will be remembered for the good parts of his life.
He is a 2x NBA champion. He is an Olympic bronze medallist.
A life full of great highs and great lows.
This ^^ 100%! But I do feel sad for his kids. At some point, I hope he’s set them up for life.
@denisemich, this is the best comment of all here. thank you for your kindness in this sad tale.
I really hope he will be ok. I have watched him playing way before he entered reality world. He was a very good player and he was very friendly after the game.
Amen.
His children????? My heart bleeds for them!
God bring back Lamar to Khloe.
Umm…his kid?!
He is showing signs of improvement. Only time will tell, but his death isn’t imminent as it was predicted yesterday. But Lord don’t go back to that life. It will destroy you again. No more reality t.v., just get better. The Sixth Man gets a Second Chance.
When I read the Khloe had flown out his entire family including his kids, ex-wife, and total loser of a father, I figured his prognosis wasn’t good. So sad for all involved. One “good” thing to maybe come out of a terrible situation is scaring Scott Disick straight, because he’s been on a similar decline
It was reported back that she didn’t fly the ex and his children out. Their own family paid their travel expenses. It’s his children. Even if he is going to survive, of course they would rush to his bedside. He’s their father.
I’m sure she did fly Lamar’s father out and pay for it.
This had bugged me as well – the fact that everyone seems so willing to believe that the mom didn’t bring the kids but had to be flown out by saint Khloe. But what bothers me even more is the constant, constant leaks on his condition, down to all sorts of intimate details. It’s absolutely disgusting, and I have no doubt who is to blame. It sickens me that his condition and possible death is a media game to these people.
The leaks about his condition are not Kardashian friendly at all. This could be hospital staff, it could be NBA insiders, it could be The Bunny Ranch people, anyone, it could be the other X, the addict father even. It could be someone one of the kids are confiding in, Im sure that oldest one has been texting her friends non-stop. Even though the Kardashians are there, people in his inner circle are surely up to date on his condition and someone is leaking it as soon as it gets in their hands.
Dennis Hoff is a piece of crap..video footage of the VIP room and the inside of the fridge really??
They r pro Kardash, they r leaked by them, kimholding his hand n he opened his eyes, now Khloe with him while he awoke. All stories r so centered how they r feeling, people seem to forget(media) that he has a family, his children, his aunt,ex wife. How r the reports saying he he almost gone to he is awake hours later? I hope he makes it n gets away from this clan.
I’ve read mixed reports.
The worst being Radar and NOBODY else is reporting what they’re saying(he’s brain dead). I do not believe Radar.
TMZ and an LA area sports reporter are both saying he is improving so I’m hoping they’re correct and he pulls through. That brothel owner will be in trouble if he does, he’s a lying POS. He and his girls knew Lamar was messed up on drugs and they still left him alone and didn’t get help until he od’ed. Then they reportedly took his cash and overcharged him.
His situation is sad and so many people are exploiting him to get attention and $$$.
Daniel Artest says LO is improving, squeezing hands and tried to bite out the tube.
Artest’s brother plays on the Lakers with Kobe, who has been at the hospital. Hoping this is good news for Lamar.
Artest’s brother is the guy who changed his name to Metta World Peace -_-
The fact that Lamar wasn’t scared straight after two of his friends died, I don’t think Scott will take this as a warning, either.
Lisa–
That was posted in 2013.
Are we also supposed to forget that according to Lamar’s friend and trainer, Lamar wold be doing welll, and then would get contacted by Khloe, and start t slide? That apparently the even that made him go ballistic and sent him off the deep end was the episode of KUWTK that made Lamar out to be some crazy stalker.???
But Khloe is so heartbroken.
I need a bucket for all the Krokodile tears
Don’t be an a$$. Khloe is not responsible for Lamar’s choices.
She is responsible for getting a restraining order against him. What happened to her being “so scared” of him?
I am praying for him, but as for the K Klan, I wish they would leave him alone.
It’s entirely possibly she was scared of him because he was out of control when using drugs & not when he’s sober. Or it was for ratings. Who knows? You can be afraid of someone (and afraid for them) & still love them. You can be attention seeking reality star & still freaking care about someone. That being said, LAMAR & LAMAR ALONE IS RESPONSIBLE for the condition he is in now. He did this. Not Khloe. Not Kris. Stop blaming them for HIS actions.
I hate when people absolve themselves with that “technically, he did it” argument. If the whole world was this selfish, people who are extremely vulnerable would stand no chance of survival. It would be Darwins world. Unless you are an utter dbag, you must take care in how you handle people who are struggling psycologically. In Khloes case, she knew Lamars battles with depression and addiction. She also knew that filming reality shows put a special strain on even narcissists like herself and her Klan. She knew that an athlete who goes on drug binges CANT POSSIBLY know whats best for him. And yet, she allowed that vapid show to use him for story lines. Its no coincidence that his fall happened following the reality show. Even after they broke up, she continued to play out his vulnerabilities on screen. She knew it affected him. We all knew this because LAMAR TOLD US multiple times that he was disturbed by how he was being depicted. When a person with depression and addiction problems tells you the things that trigger him, you damn well listen. Unless you are a dbag, of course. And to the Khloe luuuurved Lamar crowd, dbags fall in love too, they just dont know how to love in an unselfish, giving manner. Thats Khloe Kardashian for you. The fact that the last episode of their vapid show actually featured a man who has signed off on divorce papers and has previously stated that the show bugs him, tells you everything you ever need to know about the selfishness of that woman.
Yes, he hated how he was being depicted, but isn’t it just as likely he felt that way because he was an addict in denial and the depiction of him as an addict was the uncomfortable truth staring him in the face?
LAMAR made the choice to start using again. Khloe didn’t. He chose not to get help. Blaming someone else for an addict’s unwillingness to own their responsibility is unfair.
@Red, Bless you. I’ve said the same thing. I have an ex who is A LOT like LO–and we have a child. I actively CHOOSE what I say to him and how I interact with him very carefully. Not because I still love him, but because he’s in my life and as such deserves respect and care.
@Red well said! The fact that this thread is based on a ‘People exclusive’ is what makes this sordid. Lamar should be allowed to fight for his life (caused by many things & of course his own demons) without the media firestorm. A situation they knew that upset him. It is a Kardashian Kircus. Do I think Khloe cares for him? I actually do. It is the vapid nature of her & the entire famewhore family that makes this situation untenable.
When megastars like Jolie can have life saving cancer surgery & Anniston can marry in private shed glaring light on the hypocracy of this media squall. The simple truth that the Kardashian’s unwillingness to live life off camera sullied any decent intentions that they may have.
@Izzy Read Reds post again. This argument over who) physically stuck the needle in your arm is argument designed to assuage guilt. You shouldn’t exploit a drug addicts inability to know what’s good for him for the sake of your family reality show empire. Furthermore once he tells you that it causes him distress, you seriously put a stop to everything. Khloe, her ass of lies and her vulture family deserve every ounce of shame and guilt heaped their way. Not that they’re capable of the empathy it would take to realize their contribution to this mess.
By the way, there’s nothing in the NA manual or any other addiction therapy that requires you to air your struggles to complete strangers. So I don’t know why it matters whether or not the drugs made him more sensitive to his depiction. I don’t know any non addict who would want to be the butt of a reality show storyline either. My only hope is there’s enough pressure on these devils to get Scott and their brother protection from that exploitation. I hope Lamar makes it but if he doesn’t, we can atleast protect two lives already on the brink.
@Izzy-THANK YOU!
What is happening to Lamar is a terrible tragedy–addiction IS a disease, plain and simple.
However, the incessant infantilization of this man while likely well-intentioned, is incredibly destructive for an addict and detrimental to the rehabilitation process. Addicts HAVE to learn to take responsibility for their behavior. Blaming others is part of their justification process and allows them to deflect and deny while they perpetuate bad habits. It’s disempowering and not helpful at all.
Addicts are looking for any reason to use, particularly if they are in the process of getting clean. My ex would use the excuse of a really bad day at work or an argument with me as a reason to get high after a month of struggling to stay clean—THAT’S the mindset of an addict.
Interesting perspectives here.
I think the assumption of responsibility is based on the assumption of coherent, logic, sane and healthy thinking processes. A drug addict lacks those. His responsibility was to stay off drugs in the first place.
Once a person becomes a drug addict, I think it is important for their support network to do what is possible to create a nurturing and healthy environment, bit they do not take responsibility for the decisions of the addict. Conflict, deceit, and shaming aren’t part of those. While I do not think it is anyone else’s ‘responsibility’ to get an addict clean, I also don’t think you can attribute responsibility for one’s actions to an addict who is not in the same frame of mind as someone who is not (and no, that does not absolve anyone from breaking the law, hurting others and making destructive decisions).
Ideally, there needs to be a professional support network for the family and the addict that informs and fosters a healthy environment so the drug addict and and co-dependents can get back to health so they can take responsibility for their decisions.
I believe Lamar is responsible for his actions.
But I come from a family of addicts and I doubt Khloe helped the situation by using his addiction and decline as a storyline.
He still chose to use though and refused to get help d4espite many people trying to help.
I’m sure Khloe feels guilty enough, honestly, without being attacked online
Bravo, Red!!! I fully and wholeheartedly agree with you.
Y’all need to read this, because Lamar thought of the Kardashians as his family. He tweeted this at the end of September:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rp19s9
He was not taken advantage of. They tried to help him.
I like Khloe and yes Lamar is responsible for his own actions. However I do believe some environments can be toxic for those with depression using unprescibed heavy drugs to self medicate. I do believe Lamar and Khloe were great for each other, Khloe’s family however I believe was toxic to Lamar and his marriage.
It’s very telling that prior to his marriage into that family no matter what his “demons” he was a great athlete, had a good job, had friends and was viewed as one of the good guys amongst sports players. How do you go from there to ignoring all your friends, become isolated and O/D in a brothel? There had to be contributing factors to his current state.
When addicts begin to do better, they are told to change their associations with certain family members and friends and change their environment. Because going back triggers their addiction.
I feel for Lamar Odom. I hope for the best for everyone. But this looks really bad.
Honestly, Khloe tried for years to help him get clean and kept it off KUWTK (even with PMK around) for years. He had addiction issues for years before even meeting her. Blaming Khloe, who I’m sure is in a terrible place right now, is just trashy.
multi-millionaire-trashy.
All that cash and still trashy.
I think Khloe loved having a basketball husband willing to be on her show. She was not so enamored when he wanted to leave the show, and when he got traded and couldn’t be in LA. Sorry, but I don’t see love and devotion at all. Anyone who loves someone doesn’t think first and foremost of their tv show. “I love you” is not compatible with “I’m willing to exploit our entire relationship for ratings, and make you look like a bad guy when it suits me.” She choose between the show and him, and that’s fine, but let’s not pretend this is some great love story. The only love story here is the love of money and attention.
I think this is probably not the time nor place for these kinds of comments. An addict is an addict, and it’s really as simple as that. It’s all very sad, and I feel for everybody in this situation.
This! I was in a relationship with an addict before. It’s too complex to try and throw shade on one person or the other. I feel for both Khloe and Lamar here. I don’t believe Khloe acted like she loved him, I believe she truly loved him and continued loving him after the separation. I worked very hard to hide my boyfriend’s addiction for a very long time because I didn’t want my family and friends to know. I don’t think it’s hard to believe that Lamar was a drug addict long before Khloe came into his life and once she realized he was addict, that she hid it from the public. This is too complex and people need to quit demonizing everyone here.
Agreed! Addiction is terrible but Lamar is an adult and he his responsible for his own actions. No one can make you take drugs. No tv show can not cause someone to take drugs, it’s much deeper than that. I’m not a fan of the Kardashian family but it’s terrible how people are blaming them for someone’s addiction.
@MrsB-PRECISELY. Everything you said. Everything.
In rehab one of the first things they teach you is to take responsibility for your actions, which is something addicts have a very hard time doing. Commenters around here don’t seem to understand that it’s EMPOWERING for addicts to see that they control their own destiny, that they and only they can make the necessary changes to recover. Blaming others is CLASSIC addict behavior and it’s incredibly self-sabotaging.
I’m with you MrsB
I too am bothered by the crucification of Khloe by some.
Lamar was an addict. It’s very very sad when a talented person loses their battle with addiction, it’s very sad when ANYONE loses their battle with their addiction.
But he was an addict. Plain and simple. And Khloe and her love, or Khloe and her mom and sisters, Khloe and her tv show…those don’t change the fact that he was an addict. He had resources, and probably the ability to get help.
I’m not here to place blame on anyone, especially not a man clinging to his life. A talented, sweet man who had a rough life.
But I’m also not down with blaming the Ks for this. People don’t make people freak out like that. People who are unstable and ill equipped react in a dire way.
Also, this wasn’t a failed suicide attempt. This was a bender gone wrong.
And, if you want to blame anyone blame the people who raised him (or didn’t – as in his father). Drugs can be an easy way to escape when you are not raised in a stable, loving home.
Why do people blame women, for the MEN’s actions? L.O was responsible for his own actions. No one else. End of story.
Lamar is a coke/crack addict. His behavior, successes, and failings as such are his own responsibility. While it’s possible that Khloe and he have an unhealthy dynamic, it’s in no way her responsibility that he is where he is now.
I loathe the K Klan, so it pains me to say this, but of course he was feeling sorry for himself and casting all the blame on Khloe and other people’s shoulders – that’s what addicts do! They don’t take any accountability for their actions, cause god forbid they do and then have to stop their self-destructive behavior! I feel for this man, it’s so tragic what has happened, but this sounds like he may have been on a suicide mission here, not just some crazy party weekend, you know? Khloe and them K girls are total idiots, but the demons he was dealing with were much bigger than any one person could shoulder for him alone. It was up to him to do the hard work and for whatever reason, he didn’t have that fight inside of him to battle his addiction.
I think being set up and used for a tv show is far beyond what any ordinary person has to deal with when using drugs, addict or not. (Not all people who use drugs and alcohol heavily are actually addicts, that’s a different level and we don’t actually know where Lamar falls in that spectrum, the word addict is tossed around too easily.) Lamar was obviously very upset with the way Khloe had been cooperating in setting him up in various incidents and his continued use as part of their silly plotlines. He obviously felt that was affecting his reputation to a degree that his ability to get any kind of work was affected. And yet the K Klan continued to use him because they could – his original contract undoubtedly had a clause saying so, otherwise reruns would be affected. He sold his soul to them and couldn’t get it back. Khloe’s involvement was undoubtedly the worst part, because he loved her.
I hope he survives and that Khloe takes this as a serious wake up call. Don’t play games with unwilling people for ratings and publicity. I hope she leaves the show entirely after this. It’s not good for her, either.
That’s all I could think about when I saw what happened to him… How the last thing I saw was all these website postings of him “stalking” Khloe at the gym and how she acted. I don’t watch the show but that clip was very clear that he was setup to show up there so she could act like he was crazy, for some drama. I mean how much humiliation can a person take? If someone was being bullied and you wouldn’t say it was there fault. And to everything I’ve seen over the years humiliating someone publicly repeatedly equals bullying. I’m not saying Klhoe isn’t crying real tears, guilt might be at the heart of those.
Yes Krocodile tears. I hope this poor guy is remembered for his NBA career and not his taste in women.
People can have very mixed feelings. Khloe is a relatively decent person compared to her sister Kim and Demon Mother, which is why kids respond so well to her (and to Kourtney, who also has more normal emotions although she doesn’t show it much in public). I do believe Khloe has been going along with the games they’ve been playing with Lamar, but I doubt that she will after this if he survives. She does care about him, but she also was deeply hurt by the very public cheating episodes. That probably was the real deal breaker, not drug use. She was understandably angry and feeling humiliated.
The Klan’s claims about Lamar before smelled like smokescreen for the cheating. Khloe is quite familiar with drugs and her mother is a high-functioning alcoholic. Khloe also has alcohol problems at the very least and I would not be surprised if she’s used other drugs, although she probably stopped once she became serious about becoming pregnant. If she’s given up on that, she might be using alcohol and other things now. She doesn’t seem happy in general.
Lamar initially seemed more interested in weed, that’s what got him suspended in the early 2000s. Weed is safer than alcohol and doesn’t impair the user the next day, so it doesn’t interfere with such things as athletic activities (unless you’re a 24/7 stoner….). I can believe that he turned to other drugs eventually to deal with stress and physical pain (not unusual for athletes), despite the cautionary tale of his family history, but the Klan’s timeline should be taken with a big bucket of salt.
In any case, I do hope Lamar gets through this reasonably intact and I do think Khloe is a big help to him right now just by being there. They do love each other despite all the problems the K Klan has caused for him. Her mother and Kim need to disappear, however. They are toxic for both Khloe and Lamar, even if Khloe doesn’t realize it yet. Kourtney and Rob are more capable of providing real support for Khloe at this time.
Don’t mean to be snarky ,but why is lamar Odom getting so much major news coverage. On CNN, he is right on top with Trump, Hillary and the war in the Middle East. He was a good basketball player, but definitely not a Michael Jordan.
Its the Kardashian circus that is making this get all this attention.
Agree, it’s his connection to the Kardashians that is getting him all this coverage. Not to mention the Kardashians are pushing this story hard. They are the “inside person” for all the Lamar TMZ stories this week too. They are leaking info and it’s keeping them in the news.
Those news channels will focus on anything they think will get them ratings and viewers. It seems the more tragic the story, the more they cover it. They do seem to love the sensational…..
The coverage is on par with that for Bobbi Kristina and he’s far more accomplished. People can be rather ghoulishly interested in life/death stories, and this one has rather salacious details, which tend to perk interest. The drug story on its own would get attention but adding in the brothel people who won’t stop talking and reporters are going to listen.
I actually saw..on cnn, an interview with the madame..showing all the (cleaned up) rooms where he stayed…so much for all the bitching about the K’s exploiting the situation.
The brothel is exploiting the situation but so are the Kardashians. Did you not see the announcement about their apps? Also, we WILL see this play out on their reality show. I bet they are taking footage of everything on their phones and this footage will be shown next season on their now failing show. Just watch. They still mention Lamar A LOT on the show and he hasn’t been with Khloe for 2 years. Is there any need to mention him other than for ratings?
Nobody is watching the Kardashians to find out scoop about Lamar. Lamar is mentioned bc he’s still a part of Khloe’s life. He still calls her, and she still check in on him. They still had their divorce stuff to settle, which didn’t happen until July when they both signed. Everyone that is apart of their lives are mentioned. Why would he not be mentioned in respect to Khloe’s story? Get real, it’s a reality TV show, and unfortunately, he’s been part of her reality. Release forms are real ppl.
Also, Lamar had a choice in not being featured on their show. HE could have shut it down just like Kris Humpries. But he didn’t?
And for those who are misinformed about this being on future KUWTK show,
“E! Network also cleared out the filming rumors. In a statement sent to PEOPLE the network said, “Lamar Odom appeared on several seasons of Keeping Up with the Kardashians, as well as two seasons of his own series Khloé & Lamar,” the network told the site. “We are saddened to hear of his condition, and are sending out thoughts and prayers for his recovery. Keeping Up with the Kardashians is not currently shooting in Las Vegas.”
Chica – both E! and the K Klan pay attention to what people are saying online. If they see people say they are anxious to hear all the details on the K show, by golly that will happen. But if they see people want the K’s and their kameras to back off and stop using Lamar as a plotline – there’s a chance they will pay attention. That’s one reason why this whole discussion is quite appropriate. Silence about such issues would be assumed to mean consent.
I think because (from what I gather, I only know Lamar from Kardashians where the few eps I saw he came out as a sweet guy, though I know he has done Khloe much wrong since), he was more than “just” a basketball player, it sounds like he was a real friend to everyone he played with, despite having a truly awful upbringing and much tragedy in his life (losing his Mom young to cancer, being left with a drug addict Dad to raise him, and losing an infant son to SIDS). So while he might not have been a Michael Jordan on the court, it sounds like (until recently) he was a much better person off the court than Jordan ever was. He was incredibly well liked, which goes a long way when things like this happen.
Because CNN is not a news network and hasn’t been for a long time.
This is the real answer to that question. Then they have the nerve to use a picture of the wrong basketball player for Lamar. That network/station is a joke.
@ side-eye
That is effed up! They couldn’t get the right black guy, ya know what I mean?
Sad and horrible. Perhaps we can refrain from attacking people or assigning blame in the comments? Lamar is a grown man with a family history of addiction.
While I too despair at the Kardashianization of our culture, all the reality TV shows and PMKs in the world didn’t “do” this to him.He clearly had problems long before his involvement with this family.
Just a horrible situation.
It is sad but you’re always going to have a few people that refuse to believe that Lamar was an addict before he met Khloe. Yes the family is addicted to attention but it does not mean they are cold human beings who don’t have feelings. I don’t know why it’s so hard to believe that the entire family is grieving, including Kris Jenner.
It can be both. I know he was an addict before he met those succibi. But knowing them certainly didn’t help things. They used him like they use everyone. Whatever makes them a buck.
And everyone THEY USE , USES them too. It’s a mutually beneficial relationship. Those guys/women don’t walk into their lives without knowing wtf they’re signing up for. We just like to demonize women we don’t like. It’s amazing that there is supposedly dirt on the KKlan being evil that NEVER see the light of day. It’s not like they haven’t angered a shit ton of people, and really there has been nothing truly incriminating nor evil to be revealed about them. Just ppl assigning labels bc they don’t like them. Yet the stuff we hear about the ppl whose lives they, the “succubi”, have supposedly ruined are not anything these people didn’t do to themselves. Oh, but let’s blame the Kardashians for it all. Okay :-/
Yeah exactly maybe it makes them feel safer to blame the addiction on Khloe and her family then to admit that it can happen to anyone.
Or maybe they are so blinded by their Kardashian hatred to see that they are still human beings and that of course they are devastated.
It can happen to anyone. Anyone. Instead of laying blame we should be praying for his friends & family, including the Kardashians. Addiction affects everyone. We all suffer when we have a loved one struggling with addiction. I’m going to be adding extra prayers today.
Yup. This completely.
It’s bc none of these ppl have any real life experience with addicts and addiction. If they did, they wouldn’t be spewing their nonsense all over the place. They can only speak hypothetically bc they don’t ACTUALLY get it, nor would they unless it became their reality.
I’m sure if they said something negative about someone they know on their facebook, and that person saw/heard about it and then went off and committed suicide, they’de be saying that what they said would not have driven a healthy person to take their life and they are not to blame. Bc really, are you to blame?
People are acting like Lamar wasn’t a public figure doing unsightly in public for it to be captured by the public. And then featured in the public domain. Like the media isn’t anywhere doing all they can to sensationalize any and all things that can gain them traffic. The naivete is redic.
THIS. People’s hatred for all things Kardashians is clouding their judgment. I haven’t had a person close to me who is a hardcore addicts but even I know that addicts(in the mist of a bad episode) will find any excuse to get their fix. The whole “Khloe talked about him on her show and that’s what caused this” is plain ludicrous. By all account, he has been dealing with a whole lot of pain all his life, he has a family history of addiction. Heck, look at his father. The Kardashians didn’t do this to him, just like Jim Carey didn’t cause his girlfriend’s death. I wish people would stop with this cruel narrative.
But when someone pitied Jen G about being married to d*bag Affleck, most people said well she knew who she married. Let us be fair then and say, Khloe also knew who she married. She knew about his drug history and chose to marry him. She also chose to milk the sad details about Lamar even when he had made it abundantly clear this was causing him stress and he wanted to be left out of it. But now she is oh so sad. And the whole family is oh so sad. And they need to be sad with all the media focused on them, and what do you want to bet this whole drama will be part of the show?
Do I blame the klan for Lamar’s problems? No but as someone else pointed out, they are not innocent either. If everyone with mental and addiction problems was kicked to the curb and left to deal with all their issues by themselves, what would be the result? We can’t have it both ways, if it is the Kardashians give them a free pass but if we are having a general mental health care talk, let us agree that addicts need support.
Look I don’t think they are innocent at all. I just think it’s really nasty to rehash that stuff in the face of a tragedy. They can be awful people and make stupid choices and still have emotions. I feel bad for them it’s a life or death situation and I don’t think it’s humane to hurl cruelty their way right now.
As someone who’s been critical of Jen Garner I’ve never blamed her for Ben’s addictions. But irregardless Ben is not in the hospital fighting for his life right now so it’s fair game to gossip about their divorce. That’s the difference.
“If everyone with mental and addiction problems was kicked to the curb and left to deal with all their issues by themselves, what would be the result?” But that’s exactly what addicts need. They have to learn how to cope on their own without drugs. It shouldn’t matter what the K’s said on the show whatever, he needed to skills to be able to handle his emotions instead of turning to drugs. They didn’t make him an addict. He made that choice-along time ago and repeatedly since – and it is solely up to him to have stopped. The K’s weren’t the only people in his life. If you blame them you got to blame everyone, including his kids, for not “supporting him enough” to stop using. Sounds ridiculous doesn’t it? He is responsible and I pray he gets one more chance to make it right.
If he passes, Khloe’s entire storyline will be “the grieving widow.” They’ll expect everyone to forget that she got a restraining order against him, and that she filed and signed divorce papers, too.
JAG, you’re cynical and mistaken. 1) there was no restraining order actually filed. 2) Khloe hid his addiction for a long time and endured all the humiliation and negativity and ill-treatment that comes with loving an addict, doing so in public. 3) She had EVERY RIGHT to file and sign divorce papers with the way he treated her. Wtf are you saying? That she should have stayed in a toxic relationship that she got NOTHING out of once he abandoned her? Yeah, are people who are being abused in any relationship, even when it’s not physical, supposed to just hang tight and be unhappy? Oh, please. You position on this strictly subjective to the fact you hate the KKs. She gave it her all and then some. She did what anyone of us would want a loved one in her position to do. She didn’t ruin her marriage. He, on the other hand…. he eats that and ALONE. Not Khloe, nor her family. He was incredibly close to them. He was family and he pissed on it with his demons. I empathize with him, bc he’s sick. But that’s not on the Kardashians.
Chica how do you have so much insider info?!? I genuinely think you’re a Jenner/kardashian!
Khloe chose to have her life in public, so that is on her and her alone. She doesn’t want to live a public life she can leave it if she wants to. She obviously doesn’t want to. No matter what happens.
So no I don’t feel sorry her having her dirty laundry in the public.
This is terribly sad and depressing. What a horrible thing for everyone.
Yes! I don’t like these threads where people are blaming different parties, it is never that simple. There is no blame here, just sadness and pain, and all we can hope is that somehow those involved can find peace.
I agree. Some people aren’t happy unless there is a villain in the story. I don’t see how that helps.
Definitely.
Agreed. Let’s just be sad and full of prayer for healing to everyone.
I’m kind of taken with the levels of vitriol in some comments. A complete lack of sympathy OR empathy.
People can hate all they want, but it’s clear Khloe has a good heart in this matter and will make sure his kids are taken care of. After all, it looks like it will fall to her since the divorce isn’t finalized.
.?? As far as parenting goes, the kids have a mother. And for financials – If Lamar has a will, (and probably even if he doesn’t) his kids will inherit part of his estate. Where do you get the idea that Khloe needs to do anything about the kids?
Fall to her? Dear Lord, those kids have a mom who raised them. But rest assured, if she can squeeze out some PR about how she’ll look out for those kids, she will. I’m pretty sure she had a prenup that guaranteed that his life insurance would come to her. If that’s true, that should show you exactly how concerned she was about his kids.
^^^yes.
I’m sure she’s sad and grieving, but I hope for Lamar’s sake that there is someone truly in his corner rooting for him and making decisions in HIS best interest and that would include minimizing the media frenzy around him. The fact that the K clan is still attempting to manipulate media coverage surrounding this makes me raise an eyebrow.
It’s great she paid for their plane tickets but why let that info leak to the media? Do a good deed because it’s the right thing to do. Don’t leak it to the media just so YOU look good.
I really couldn’t give two sh1ts about the feelings of his in-laws, but my heart breaks for those two children who will forever be confronted with the sordid details of last weekend. No child deserves to be left with those images of their father.
Well I am glad the circus has left town, I think it is just Khloe and his family now, I hope Caytlin is also not around anymore. Their intentions may be good but they bring to much attention, they just back off a bit. Kim wanted Khloe to have nothing to do with Lamar maybe she feels guilty now.
Kim shouldn’t feel guilty for telling Khloe to stop interacting with Lamar. If either of my own sisters were with an addict who was using and refusing help I would want her to stay away, also.
There’s only so much love and support can do. Being married to an addict is hell. Kim was protecting her sister as it became more and more apparent that Lamar needed a great deal of help and wasn’t getting it. Many people cut off an addicted love one so they will hit rock bottom and finally get help. It’s often the only thing that can be done. It doesn’t mean you don’t love that person.
Not only that Pat, great point, but also, Kim realized that this keeping in contact and blurring the lines with the flirting wasn’t good for either of them. Not for Lamar and not for Khloe.
I doubt that Kim was trying to protect her sister. She was just being Kim. She doesn’t have the level of awareness and caring about other people that you have. She finds other people quite disposable and has no idea why anybody would feel differently. Her words to Khloe were intended to create dramatic conflict for the show, not really to help Khloe. Her part was written that way. (Yes, they have writers.)
Nobody said anybody was responsible for Lamar’s choices, but clearly being played for tv ratings did not help whatever struggle he was dealing with, and I can and will call bs on that every time, especially now that every mag in the world wants to cast Khloe as a saint.
He chose to appear on a reality TV show. He was an adult & knew what he was getting into. I’m tired of everyone blaming the Kardashians & the TV show for Lamar’s downward spiral. I will call bs on that each & every time.
I doubt that Lamar fully realized that the show would still be using him and setting him up in their little dramatic scenarios long after he and Khloe had separated or the effect it would have on him. That’s not something most people would even believe could happen. He was in love with Khloe, married her, and wasn’t even thinking about what would happen on that show if they divorced. Yes, I’m sure they pinned down the rights to do this to him in the contract. But that doesn’t mean he really knew what he was getting into. People get surprised all the time by contracts.
Kris H. had some leverage to get them to eventually back off on him. He was asking the court to get the full tapes to show the biased editing, and wasn’t going away with offers of cash. He finally decided to drop the annulment application, possibly just because he wanted to focus on his sports career and maybe felt sorry for pregnant Kim — but my guess is that the K Klan had to make some non-monetary concessions as well behind closed doors. They did stop their smear campaign and stopped dragging his name and image into their shows. Lamar had no such leverage.
Exactly.
Actually people are and continue to blame Khloe for his addictions which is so ignorant. As for calling Khloe a saint,obviously she isn’t.
She IS a human being and no matter how much annoyance her reality show may cause I think a lack of empathy for how hard this situation must be is just as emblematic of the decay of our culture as anything a Kardashian does.
I haven’t seen anybody blame Khloe for his addictions. We do blame the K Klan for making his life so much harder by dragging his name into their idiot show and obviously setting him up more than once for dramatic effect, even after he unequivocally said it was a problem for him. And we blame them for making this situation all about themselves and leaking info to TMZ. Those are very legitimate complaints and excellent topics for discussion which might actually have an impact on their behavior. They do read about themselves online.
Khloe is as far from a saint as a person can be. I believe she truly cares about Lamar, but she’s just like the rest of her attention mongering family.
Why wouldn’t she be there for him? She was his wife, she loved him, and still is his wife legally. When my older sister died of alcoholism and eating disorders we hadn’t spoken for months but I was there at her hospital bed every day after we pulled the plug. It’s called compassion. Many years ago I broke up with a boyfriend I’d lived with for several years. He was a chronic adulterer and I couldn’t take it. Right after that he had a horrible bike accident, broke his arm in 5 or 6 places, was hospitalized off and on for months, had multiple surgeries, infections, etc. and doctors even thought he’d lose the lower part of his arm. Guess who moved back in with him to take care of him? Me. None of his family or friends had the time of day for him. It’s called compassion. So as horrible as the Kardashian clan is, Khloe is only doing what a decent and compassionate person would do during a crisis like this and putting any feelings of resentment aside to be there for him and his family.
Is she there to care for Lamar or is she there for the publicity? Same question for every member of her family – there to support Khloe and Lamar or there for financial reasons? I like to think they are there for altruistic reasons but with the Kardashians fame and cash are king.
The fact that Kim, Kris, Kylie and Kendall have all gone back to LA seems to me that they all said their goodbyes.
Khloè will probably stay with him until the end.
I don’t think they’ll be able to recover their business from the bad press coming from this and this might be the end of the Kardashians as we know them.
If anything in their world was shallow before, imagine how shallow it looks now. Kris will have to work real magic from now on.
Who knows maybe Kim will call her baby Lamar. That would be vomit inducing.
God bless Lamar, hopefully he’ll find his peace somewhere else.
He definitely deserves better than this despite the fact that all this pain was self induced.
They are too powerful now, they can weather the storm, It was almost donzo for them after Kims joke of a wedding but Kanye got them out of that.
Heh. Read that People article again and tell me it isn’t straight out of the Kardashian machine. This isn’t a piece on Lamar, its a piece on how stoic and heartbroken and generous Khloe and her family are. You know how I know this isn’t from hospital staff…. zero mention of how his kids and his other close buddies are doing. We don’t know which Lakers or Clippers showed up but People would like you to know that Kylie Jenner was there. Disgusting. What a loving near ex-wife Khloe must be. Come back Lamar, don’t let these vultures surf over your legacy with their story mongering.
The NY Times has an article on LO this morning which states “Odom’s primary use to the entertainment industry was as a piñata for the celebrity news media.” As vile and opportunist as the Kardashians are, we should reserve our real disgust and venom for the cynical, exploitative media owners and executives who profit from and fuel the trash circuses of reality TV and nasty gossip sites. Is this all people really want – to be entertained by empty, talentless “celebrities” and their dysfunctional and shallow lives? How about we focus on real artists, writers, creators and dreamers. The ones who create real culture and contribute something to our understanding of our shared humanity. How about we try to raise the bar instead of constantly lowering it.
Everything this.
I am more concerned about Lamar’s first family that he abandoned and treated like shit after they lost a baby and he hooked up with Khloe. I hope they find closure if and when he dies.
ITA. I hope that someone is watching out for the emotional and financial well being of his children.
Exactly. I care more about his kids than the stupid Kardashians. Lamar and Khloe both signed the divorce papers. The judge just hasn’t filed it yet. Hopefully Lamar’s will says his kids get everything. Lamar also never had a “living will” so Khloe gets to make all his medical decisions. That’s crazy considering he DID sign the divorce papers !
I have very little sympathy.
He’s a drug dealer / user / abuser – this was brought on by himself and his poor decisions.
People like you truly are the worst. No knowledge or understanding of addiction as a disease, but front and center on your soapbox ready to judge and place blame. Why even comment at all? A human life is a human life regardless. The man is lying in his death bed, but you just have to profess your intolerance for his behavior. You’ve never had to walk in his or any other addict’s shoes so how dare he have issues.
I agree, Daria. Addiction is a sickness, and it hurts everyone who cares for the people it infects. So Aussie Reader, even if you have little sympathy for him, you must feel for his children at least. I’m lucky that my mum got clean before I lost her, but it’s all too easy to judge people when we don’t know what they have been through, what their brain chemistry/low self-esteem/crappy childhoods urge them to do.
Re Khloe and the Kardashians, the whole episode with Lamar stalking Khloe seemed like a setup to me, and if that is the case, and the K’s milked Lamar and his illness for storylines, I hope that they at least have a sliver of humanity left between them to feel some level of guilt…enough to rally around their brother, perhaps, and to reconsider some of their actions.
Thank you Daria – having lost my sister to addiction, I know what Khloe is going through. You love them but they are broken people, they can’t control their addictive behaviour even though they know it could kill them. It is a terrible disease/disorder, not simply “a poor decision”, and people like Aussie Reader haven’t the slightest comprehension how heartbreaking it is.
@Jaded, I’m sorry for your loss. My sister struggles and it’s my greatest fear.
I blame the media. For years, addicts have been portrayed as bad people who make bad choices. It’s terrible, and it has led to awful stereotypes that are perpetuated by people who feel entitled and superior, and they love to point their fingers and judge. There’s no excuse though because there is plenty of information out there that proves addiction is a disease and that these antiquated stereotypes are false.
He did make his own choices, but really, I don’t think anyone sets out to be an addict. It’s a terrible burden to bear, and takes enormous strength to get well. I believe some people are physically or psychologically more vulnerable to addiction than others. I would say that I abused alcohol in college, but never got addicted because I’m lucky enough not to have that vulnerability, not because of anything I did. i feel sorry for anyone struggling with addiction, and the people who love them.
@GoodNamesAllTaken,
“I believe some people are physically or psychologically more vulnerable to addiction than others. I would say that I abused alcohol in college, but never got addicted because I’m lucky enough not to have that vulnerability, not because of anything I did.”
Spot on. I’m getting a bit personal here, but alcoholism seems to run in my family and my sister has struggled but I haven’t. I do feel like addiction can happen to anyone. The demonization of addicts really leaves me incensed. The media has portrayed addicts as awful people who choose their circumstances and more often than not, that just isn’t the case.
I agree, Daria. One of my best friends is a recovering alcoholic. She’s one of the finest, smartest, kindness people you could know, and it has been an enormous struggle for her. I admire her strength and courage so much, and it hurts me when people act like addicted people are just trash who brought it on themselves. I hope your sister can find a way to get or stay sober, and I’m very sorry for the pain I know that must cause you.
Thank you so much for your kind words, GNAT!
So I guess you had no sympathy or empathy for other celebrities who have succumb to drug abuse like Whitney Houston,Phillip Seymour Hoffman,Heath Ledger,etc? Well I have relatives who are struggling with addiction to drugs or alcohol so I will have always compassion and empathy for drug addicts and their loved ones.
+1000000
It never fails, there’s always someone who appoints themselves high and mighty and holier than thou when it comes to addicts.
It boils down to ignorance. One friend of mine had no sympathy for people who smoked and couldn’t seem to quit because she knew people who just decided one day to quit smoking and that was it, they never smoked again with no trouble. I tried to explain how physically addictive nicotine is – more so than heroin. Still a certain percentage of users are not addicted even though they smoke heavily. Those are the ones who can quit easily once they have a good reason. Those who are physically addicted have to deal with problems quitting that my smug friend had never experienced and could not imagine. If they even manage to cut back on their smoking, they should be congratulated and encouraged.
The same is true for other potentially addictive substances. Not all heavy users are addicts. They use the substance because they like it and its effects, especially if they have bad memories chasing them and it helps them forget for a while. Their use can be a problem regardless, but once they have a clear reason to quit – they don’t face the physical difficulties that true addicts face.
I come from a long line of alcoholics on my father’s side and won’t even use NyQuil cough medicine… (there’s a reason they sell it with a plastic shot glass!). Anybody with addiction in their family history should avoid potentially addictive substances because you never know which category you’ll fall into until you’ve fallen into it, and it seems to be the susceptibility that is inherited. There is no such history on my mother’s side. Her cousin was a heavy alcohol user and lord help us drove routinely under the influence. He finally decided to quit for health and safety reasons, and he just did it with no problem. No rehab or counseling or anything needed. So he was a heavy user of alcohol and it did cause problems in his life – but he just wasn’t an alcoholic.
@ Aussie Reader –
I agree with you.
Maybe because of the horrors and blowbacks I’ve seen, or I guess I’m not a compassionate person.
But I don’t like how addicts are not allowed to take responsibility for their own choices or actions, and the onus is on someone else to take responsibility cause they have a ‘disease’.
Then again I don’t believe in sex addiction disease either so……..
I’m not sure that the point is to feel sorry for addicts, but in the case of Lamar – he is comatose, likely completely unaware of reality, and not in any pain, so not suffering. His family, particularly his children, are suffering. So for me, it is about having sympathy and empathy for those who suffer…and most addicts do suffer, greatly. They love, but don’t understand that when they do harm to themselves, they hurt those they love…or they don’t want to understand, because the addiction has such a hold on them. Addiction is a disease, which science has proven…and some people might be able to take drugs one time, and never touch them again, while for others, one time is all it takes to cause a lifetime of addiction. I understand that it can be hard to understand that addiction is a disease if you haven’t experienced it in someone close to you, or if you saw it take someone down. I used to have a lot of anger towards my mother, who was(is) an addict, and blamed her, and didn’t understand why she seemed to chose drugs over me, time and again. And I still struggle with feelings of not being worthy of love, because of the emotional neglect I was dealt in childhood…but to be honest, I’m not sure how much of that was due to the drugs, or due to the fact that my mother didn’t know how to be a parent, or an adult, and still doesn’t, not really. Anyway, my point is, I know that my mum loved me, and loves me, and would never have consciously chosen to make the choices she made, if she wasn’t an addict…who yes, in a moment of weakness, took that first hit, but I think we have all done things we aren’t proud of. But the unlucky ones who are wired for addiction, and who lack the social support, knowledge, and inner fortitude to avoid falling down the rabbit hole have to live with that one bad choice forever.
All that said, it is totally your right not to feel sympathy for addicts, and I do understand where you are coming from, and have thought the same myself.
It’s not that addicts are not responsible for their own actions, but rather that the road they have to travel to quit is far more difficult than for a person who may be a heavy user but is not an addict. Orders of magnitude more difficult. Recognizing that fact is pretty important when deciding how to deal with them. That doesn’t mean staying in bad relationships, but certainly at the very least it should mean not shouting all the details of their problems to the world at every opportunity for profit.
Poor guys, seems like a lifetime of pain and loss pushed him over the edge. I am not a Kardashian fan, BUT it seems to me that Khloe truly loved/loves Lamar. It’s sad for his kids and all of the people who love him.
This makes me so sad. He had a hard childhood and went so far, and from all accounts, a good person. I’m honestly heartbroken.
Yes, it is a very sad situation all around. I feel so sad for his kids, and hope they can avoid following in their fathers footsteps.
This is very sad. I have three people in my immediate family who are long-time addicts – one has successfully gotten clean late in life. The other two – we’re just waiting for the phone call. And this may sound horrible, but at this point death would be a welcome relief. For both the addict and those who care about them.
For the adddict who doesn’t get clean, imagine waking up every day with that albatross – what an enormous burden to live with. It’s a miserable existence. For the family – the constant worry, the not knowing whether the loved one is alive or dead – it also takes a toll. I know in the case of my own father, I do frequently feel like death would be a relief to his troubled soul. Of course, the tragedy is that some addicts are never able to sustain sobriety, despite their best efforts and outside support. You at once mourn the life they missed living and the life they are living.
I’m so sorry, GiGi. Addiction is such a tragedy for the addicts and the people who love them.
I’m sorry you are going through that, Gigi. My parents are both alcoholics, and my mum is a drug addict also, but thankfully, she is clean (though has serious health complications from her drug use). My dad is a functioning alcoholic…but only because he is also a workaholic. I fear that when/if he retires, it will just be a steeper slide towards death. But yes, i understand about the constant anxiety, which I have about my mum in particular, due to her health issues..but I realised recently that i have been anxious about her dying since I can remember. I don’t actually know what life would be like if I wasn’t weighed down by my worry for her.
Aye, two of my mother’s siblings are serious drug/alcohol addicts, and my own brother has been struggling with substance abuse issues due to severe depression for most of his youth. There is no way to explain to people who haven’t been there the helplessness you feel in watching somebody destroy their own life like that. It poisons everything around them.
Men just don’t make it out of this family; one way or the other they get destroyed…
I’ve noticed that too. Prayers for all involved.
But Lamar was caught doing drugs and getting punished for it as early as 1999. He’s a man with a history of drug abuse, and a combination of things seems to have driven him off the wagon and over the edge.
I think this family just has a habit of finding broken people and their need for fame and attention results in catastrophe for these men who were already on the brink to begin with.
Kris Humphries is fine
Reggie Bush is fine
French Montana is fine
Lamar was a drug addict before he met Khloe
Caitlyn Jenner was transgender before she married Kris.
I’ve read Scott had issues with alcohol before he met Kourtney.
Kris Humphries and Reggie Bush were destroyed on their show after the divorce/break up. They dogged those men so hard. It’s what these women do.
They’re fine in the sense they’re not broke or hidden away somewhere dealing with addictions but their reputations and perceptions of them defintely took a major hit after dealing with that family. Both men are now back to being completely undercover avoiding the media completely and that seems to be what’s helping them.
Kris H. and Reggie are fine despite the family trying to drag them through the dirt because they were emotionally healthy and had strong families. Kris’s sister in particular had weird experiences with the Klan herself and could reassure him that he wasn’t crazy, they really had been using him as a stooge. She also attempted some damage control when the Klan was playing its usual games in the media. Kris also had support from his pastor – he was actually serious about his religion. He tried to get Kim to agree to counseling rather than just up and filing for divorce with no prior discussion. Kim might have never expected to stay with him long-term (she just wanted a big wedding on tv), but I suspect that her friend-with-benefits Kanye (now single) told her they could get married if she wasn’t already married so she remedied that situation quickly to be eligible for the upgrade.
Don’t know much about Reggie except that his mother very wisely didn’t like Kim.
Lamar and Scott lack family support and also have problems with drugs and alcohol. That makes them easier targets and the effects on them from the K games would be longer lasting and more problematic.
I feel for Lamar’s kids. First and foremost. I could give a rat’s behind about the Kardashian/Jenner clan and their pain. They used his celebrity for ratings and then used his addiction for ratings. Khloe too. She may love him but she wasn’t above allowing her mother to put his illness on blast for their show when they needed the press. You’ll have to excuse me if assigning real emotions to any of the Kardashian women is a little hard. Especially when they release a joint statement last night not about privacy for Lamar but letting their fans know they won’t be updating their social media apps. Their apps?!
I feel the same way too @theoriginalmia…I mean IMO it’s very déclassé, but these are the Kardashian girls we are talking about
Nobody forced Lamar to drink and do drugs blaming the Kardashians for that is wrong. However I agree they did exploit his addiction on their show. They used his problems for a storyline.
Their apps? Really? Why are they stopping though? Who was Lamar to them? Other than Khloe, the rest didn’t give two sh*ts about him. Kim got mad whenever she found out Khloe had spoken to him. I’ve never even seen Kendall or Kylie post pics of Lamar until this week. This family just loves attention. This should be about Lamar, his kids, and his father. That is it. The rest need to shut up and quite their act.
I wouldn’t fault them for announcing they wouldn’t be updating their apps without dragging Lamar into it. That was a good decision all round. The less they say about him, the better. Their app fans undoubtedly know Khloe is with him, that’s enough to explain why they have other things on their mind.
The apps just came out recently, and folks would be wondering if suddenly there were no breathless updates about all things Kardashian. I’ve seen bloggers make the simple announcement that they’re dealing with some things right now that will keep them from updating for a while also, with no details. It’s actually refreshing to have the Kardashians not tell us everything for once.
Don’t flame me but i thought i read somewhere that he was sober when he met khloe and that her partying with coke around him was the trigger for him to start again???
And yes i do think she loves him but allowing that story line to continue on the show was very low broe in my opinion. I know some will argue they film everything in their lives and this was a part of her life….but wasnt flaunting her new relationships enough to hurt him without dragging him back into it when they only showed one side of it????
And i hope he provided for his children through another insurance policy because10 million to an ex wife as part of a prenup is a huge payout.
Liza Morales and Lamar were never actually married, according to her http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/05/liza-morales-on-losing-lamar-odom-to-khloe-kardashian.html
I hope he recovers and treats this as a wake up call (like Scott seems to be doing)
This is probably the first time I can’t bring myself to read all the comments on a CB article. It breaks my heart. Thank you, Kaiser, for saying what you did about Khloe. FWIW, people hurt each other, even people who love each other and especially people who are ending a relationship. K&L hurt each other, cheating and drugs on one hand and negative publicity on the other. No doubt KUWTK exacerbated the situation. There’s a lot of pain there, but it is unfair to say Khloe bears any responsibility or blame for what has happened. Lamar didn’t just technically do this to himself, he did do this to himself, and the real true culprit is the illness that is addiction. I have no doubt she still loved him even if she feared him, and she is going to be feeling enough guilt. I’m sure it will be used as a storyline on their show, but in this case reality really is reality. And think of Cher’s public mourning of Sonny; the public nature of that bothered me much more just because he had a widow. I do still believe Cher loved Sonny and was heartbroken at his death, and how long had they been split up compared to Khloe and Lamar? I don’t really have faith that KUWTK and E won’t exploit the tragedy for their ratings. They probably will. But that doesn’t mean Khloe’s pain and probably the pain of the whole family is not real. Life is messy and doesn’t always fall in black or white, love or hate, publicity or authenticity dichotomies, especially when something like this happens.
Brilliant post I wholeheartedly agree.
Well said, Amy. I have only positive thoughts for him and for his family, Khloe included.
Fantastic comment. 100% agree with you.
i remember when Cher came on tv @ 6pm to sing ‘Nature Boy’ for Sonny… so haunting.
Good memory about Sonny and Cher.
This will take a long time to play out and it will be a media circus for quite a while. Hopefully, when all is said and done, the Kardashians will reevaluate their choices and I hope some of them walk away from the cesspool of “reality” TV. It will damage their children as well.
Glad PMK hopped on her broom and left Vegas, but I’m sure it’s only to slither into E!’s offices to discuss the upcoming episodes to be revolving around this tragedy.
She probably went home because she needs to re-pack her suitcase with more black designer clothes. She’ll be back in Vegas in a day I bet.
I’m not a fan of the Kardashian family’s but I can’t understand why people are blaming them directly. Lamar has had a history of drug addiction since he was young. Whether or not he was clean when they met does not mean that any of them are responsible for the fact that he relapsed–he has a history of getting clean and relapsing since he was young. Since this has all happened, multiple people who’ve known him since he was a kid have come out and talked about how they aren’t shocked, although they are saddened, because Lamar would “disappear” for weeks on end and go on benders. He’s a troubled guy, and it’s just a tragic scenario all around. Life is so much harder and crueler for some than others. He has not only a family history of addiction, but was constantly abandoned and used and abused by people in his life. Basketball coaches who were only interested in him for his skill set, his leech of a father.
Almost all of the people who know him well have said getting traded from the Lakers is what sent him over the edge, and if you follow back the timeline, that sounds pretty accurate. Lamar’s life fell apart when he moved to Dallas, he fell off the wagon, and his marriage fell apart. Blaming Khloe for leaving him is wrong because enabling an addict isn’t the right thing to do. She remained loving and a part of his life, but she couldn’t be with him as long as he was using. Khloe actually did the right thing. As for her behavior when he showed up at the gym, it should make sense why she was so afraid now. He was obviously a train wreck and in a terrible and dark place.
^^^THIS. It’s shocking how people will literally just ignore well-established facts in order to further their venom against the K Klan.
I don’t see many blaming the Kardashians for Lamar’s over-dose. I do see a lot of people not believing this family really cares for Lamar. Maybe Khloe does, but it’s hard to believe ice Queen Kim really gives a damn. She didn’t even want Khloe speaking to Lamar and now she’s at the hospital all dressed in black ready for the cameras. Puh lease. It just doesn’t seem genuine. Where was the love for this man just a month ago?
i guess what happens in Vegas no longer stays in Vegas, eh?
Brothel pimp has been squawking non-stop.
That dude is everywhere right? Talk about shady, this guy is really enthusiastic about this tragedy that’s generating so much interest in his business. So very gross but you know, pimps and all…
Is that the one who is bald or the one with the long black hair? I have to admit I don’t really want to google details of this whole thing but I do recall seeing two separate guys.
One who did an interview on how they had to hold up Lamar’s body and the other guy basically cussing Khloe out when she told him to keep quiet and he blasted her saying her first concern was about that and not any questions about Lamar’s stuff or what happened.
He belongs under a rock on the bottom of the ocean bed.
Genuine question. Are any of the men these young women married well adjusted? I have never watched the show, but my father suffered from depression and had suicidal impulses, so I do empathize with the depressed and those trying to cope with a loved one’s depression. But, it seems all these men seem to be struggling, so is it the show? is it that these women are attracted to a certain type or is it just a coincidence? I am not a praying person, but I wish them all well, I wouldn’t wish this scenario on my worst enemy.
Dysfunction attracts dysfunction. Scott ,Kanye ,Lamar ,Bruce and now Tyga all came with a lot of baggage. It doesn’t look like a coincidence to me but it could something be they can’t help. They could just be attracted to men they think they can fix.
My best friend calls it “wounded bird syndrome” I had it, spent many years trying to fix the men in my life…ex BF’s with serious baggage. I finally chose to help myself, some people cannot be saved…no matter how much you love them.
I’m no fan of the Klan and I have always side eyed the way they drag their ex’s, but Lamars condition is not Khloes fault. I just hope she doesn’t internalize all the hate, I am very worried she could slip into depression/self harm. First she lost her beloved father, then Bruce (in a way) and now Lamar. So very sad.
I don’t see the Ms. Fixit pattern in the Kardashian women. I think they just don’t notice the problems or figure they can always leave anytime anyway. Their own family is so dysfunctional and fake that they have no real model for normal relationships.
Kourtney was quite the party girl herself when she first started up with Scott, so she was drinking along with him. She changed when she unexpectedly became a mother. Scott didn’t change along with her.
Khloe was partying right along with Lamar when she met him. They would only show alcohol use, but that doesn’t mean they weren’t using other drugs together. She wouldn’t have seen any drug or alcohol use as a danger sign because she was doing it herself. If it really did get out of hand later, especially if she was no longer using because she wanted to get pregnant (drunken/drugged behavior in a partner is a whole lot less fun when you are cold sober yourself), it would have been quite a while before she realized that it wasn’t just a PR problem.
Kris was just looking for another rich man who could be more easily manipulated than Robert Kardashian when she started with Bruce Jenner. She knew about his gender discomfort, he was taking hormones at the time to prepare for transition. She wasn’t interested in fixing him or understanding him, just using him.
Kim is not into alcohol or other drugs to my knowledge, but she’s always out for what benefits Kim. She’s known Kanye long enough to see that his mental state has been deteriorating, but either she doesn’t realize what a risk that poses or just figures she will use him as long as she can and then walk away, even if it means wearing horribly ugly clothes he picks out and being pregnant twice with children she doesn’t really want. She certainly has no interest in helping him become more mentally and emotionally healthy.
Finger is right. They’re all messed up and that is attractive to others. I think on the surface the Kardashians seem like an amazing family. Close-knit, lots of family, always together but when you dig a little deeper…
I think I read that at least Lamar, Kanye, and Scott all share similarities with badically being lonely only children who’s parents died and who had their own set of issues. Having that as background and coming into the family must feel like being scooped up into a big loving hug.
Lamar still has a father and so does Kanye. Scott had both of his parents until very recently.
I do think the Kardashians put on a major front. Kim admitted that before their reality show started she never spoke to Khloe and had no idea what was going on in her life…yet they owned a store together???
“I think I read that at least Lamar, Kanye, and Scott all share similarities with badically being lonely only children who’s parents died and who had their own set of issues. Having that as background and coming into the family must feel like being scooped up into a big loving hug.”
Exactly. Kris Jenner is a charismatic, attractive, strong-willed narcissist – a true master of emotional seduction. You don’t just marry a Kardashian, you marry that family’s way of life. And that involves becoming enveloped in the world kreated by Kris, which at first feels warm and close-knit. It feels like you’ve finally found something. The isolating and controlling behaviors don’t come until later…not to mention the gaslighting.
A great overview of how narcissists operate is in the book, “Emotional Vampires: Dealing with People Who Drain You Dry”.
http://www.amazon.com/Emotional-Vampires-Dealing-Revised-Expanded/dp/0071790950/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1445020625&sr=1-1&keywords=Emotional+Vampires%3A+Dealing+with+People+Who+Drain+You+Dry
How do I know all about the powerful emotional seductiveness of narcissists? Ask me about my first husband. 🙂
They look for the weak that they can control. Always an angle with these people.
well i think that when terrible things happen, as humans we get upset, and get a little irrational, and in our attempts to resolve the upsetting thing in our minds get a little carried away. next thing you know you have stark, staunch, polarized opinions, all or nothing type viewpoints.
i read thru all of your comments and think that thus sitch is probly a mishmash of all of them.
lamar is responsible for the choices he made to land him where he is.
kloe is responsible for exacerbating his strife versus maybe doing things to have at least mitigated it. fuel to an already burning fire, so to speak.
neither is a saint, and neither deserves to be crucified.
i guess that is just mho!
Just Let It Be.
Having been in a long term relationship with an addict, let me just say this. When I truly tried to help financially and emotionally he would tell me I was an enabler and continue doing drugs. When I tough loved it he told me I wasn’t treating himlike a grown man who could make decisions for himself and continue doing drugs. When I pointed this out to him-basically i could not win-he said I needed to go to the NA meetings for families to learn how to live with an addict. He went to prison, AGAIN, and during that time I was able to see that I needed to leave. I didn’t love him at that point but I loved him enough for more than 10 years to continue to stay with a drug addict. I feel for Khloe here cause she will be blamed by some, the truest statement about addiction is you can’t cure someone else’s addiction.
Sorry about your situation. Unfortunately the best thing you can do for any addict is walk away and wish them well until they recover.
I love Dennis Hoff going on Nancy Grace and telling the world “Khloe’s publicist contacted me and said to not go on this show, to not talk to cnn, and not talk to anyone because Khloe will handle all media.’
Says it all right there, doesn’t it? You can love someone without exploiting them. The Kardashian’s don’t know that.
Are we talking about the guy who has been on every media outlet promoting his prostitution ranches and dragging Lamar through the mud,violating his privacy in every possible way and topping it off with charging $75,000 to Lamar’s for this weekend?
What a hero.
Let’s not forget this man allowed Lamar to go on a drug binge under his roof and is claiming all he was using was herbal Viagra. But it’s all the Kardashian’s fault right?
Ironic that an actual pimp gets praise for despicably going on a media tour and the Kardashian’s are getting blamed for trying to reign the pig in.
I wouldn’t say he’s dragging Lamar through the mud. There was a news report that aired yesterday by the police department detailing every bit of what happened, including the fact Lamar had cocaine in his body.
So, the brothel owner is like the police giving out information? NOT. All the brothel info was sold off to the tabloids before the police said a thing. On a regular day, with the most routine transaction, I would that that privacy would be one of the services a brothel provides.
@ The Original G
There is NO privacy anymore. The police department themselves said drugs were involved…they also released the 911 tapes. It is sad a person’s privacy is not being protected here, but that is nothing new, especially when it’s a celeb. The ranch owner just beat the police to it by a matter of 24 hours. The Kardashians don’t want anyone to speak because they are worried about their “brand”.
With this family ,you can be as cynical as you can .The most important for them is MONEY and THEM
Only one finger to be pointed here and it is directed towards addiction.
Addiction kills.
Wow I don’t think he can make it, very few make it out ventilator especially when his organs are so deteriorated by drugs. Of course the whole drama will be featured on KUWK and their ratings are going go up again. I hate them
Saw an interview yesterday with the guy that owned the ranch Lamar was staying at. He said the Kardashian’s publicist contacted him and wanted him NOT to speak to the media as Khloe wants to be the only one talking to them. The Kardashians think they own everyone. The guy said he told them to “f off”.
I do feel bad for Lamar’s father and children. That is all. I do not feel bad for the Kardashians as they haven’t even spoken to Lamar (other than Khloe) in years. Now they are all acting like they were there for him through his dark times when they were not. I feel bad that Lamar had a tough life, however, this drug over-dose was of his own doing. It is sad to think of Lamar back when he hadn’t met Khloe yet. He was on top of his game and loving life. What happened to this man?
I realize the divorce hasn’t been finalized yet, but it seems pretty rotten that a soon-to-be-ex spouse can make life or death decisions for him, since as the article states they separated years ago and signed divorce papers in July. That’s awful. I hope she has the decency to listen to the thoughts of his biological relatives.
Well if had specified someone as his medical power of attorney she wouldn’t be in charge.
I know it’s speculation and this situation was unforseen by him, but I don’t get the impression that he would think that it would be rotten that Khloe was in this role. Where do you get that she wouldn’t be decent enough to listen to the thoughts of his relatives?
I don’t, I just hope she IS decent enough to do so. And apart from that, just the whole notion that someone can make decisions for a person they’re not going to stay married to bothers me on principle.
it may bother you on principle, but a contract is a contract and it wasn’t voided by LO’s own choice so…
So Khloe is wrong for asking this man not to discuss with everyone how he was using cocaine,taking herbal Viagra,eating fried chicken and screwing three blonds,etc?
I couldn’t be more disgusted with anyone who has the gall to defend the brothel owner. He is a pimp in every sense of the word, he is very responsible for what happened because he allowed the bender to take place under his roof and he very well knew that Lamar was doing drugs there. The herbal Viagra lie that he’s been pushing is such a sham and he is speaking to the media to cash in on tragedy and to cover his own ass. Shame on anyone who would defend that man and then speak about Lamars poor children.
Who is defending him???? The police department gave out a statement very similar to what the ranch owner was saying…there were drugs involved, no one is saying otherwise.
Read the comments above. No, people are not specifically praising him, but they ARE making very inconsistent comments about how he’s “just doing what everyone does” yet saying the K Klan should be excoriated for doing the same.
Anyone, including the brothel owner, the Kardashians, and the media should be ashamed. But we have to remember Lamar was a celebrity and this happens all the time. Even regular folk get their privacy invaded…so of course ALL the details of this story are going to be exposed either by the brothel owner, the Kardashians themselves, and even the police department. I have a strong suspicion the Kardashians are feeding TMZ stories the last few days. It’s pretty obvious who their “inside source” is. The issue is the Kardashians once had a strong relationship with Lamar, they should know better. The brothel owner is in the wrong as well, but he has no relationship with Lamar and probably doesn’t feel an ounce of remorse for spilling the beans. The Kardsashians only care about how their “brand” looks and how this will affect their business. They family didn’t give two sh*ts when Scott lost both his parents. Either way, let’s focus on his kids, they are the true victims in all of this. I’m not even sure Lamar had a good relationship with them but he is still their father and they must be going through a lot.
Yeah, the only problem I have about the Ks trying to shut him down is that she set a publicist instead of a lawyer.
No kidding.
I posted on another site when this first happened to suggest the brothel should be raided cause they likely supplied or knew about the drugs and did nothing until he od’ed.
I was repeatedly insulted and told that I was wrong and the brothel did nothing wrong here.
Turns out they supplied the herbal crap, which the FDA called unsafe. They sold the booze to mix with it. And they saw LO using and did nothing but leave him alone for hours after he paid for 24/7 girls when they knew he was mixing drugs and alcohol. Now they’re selling details of his stay , pictures of his room and fridge and probably overcharged him and stole cash.
The brothel didn’t make him do anything but they certainly did enable him.
It made me sick to read that the “madam” said he wanted to talk to her like a mother because he was upset and didn’t know who to trust. Obviously not her since she spilled it all to the media while he’s fighting to survive. THESE PEOPLE, ugh
Addiction is a DISEASE not a choice.
Personally, I think Khloe and Lamar used together only she could dial it back when she had to. He wasn’t able to and that’s why they split. I’m sorry for Lamar and his family and even the KKs – I’m sure there were genuine feelings there beyond Khloe bagged an athlete … you’d hope anyway.
I do think that if they could exploit this for their show that they would. That’s who they are. I’m wondering how Lamar’s estate will be handled should he not pull out of this. Khloe surely doesn’t need his $$$ but his kids would. I feel like a ghoul typing this.
This is a very cynical point of view, but the announcement about the Kardashians temporarily not adding content to their apps actually seemed like an advertisement. I doubt Khloe had anything to do with it. She’s probably truly devastated. However, they did not need to release that statement. They could simply refrain from updating the content. Anyone who follows them already can make an educated guess about why they would refrain from activity while Lamar is in such bad shape. That app announcement got a lot of media attention that seemed to communicate “Look how sad we are” when really it was a reminder to people that they have apps for sale. While I am sympathetic and believe they are all in pain, I think this crew is so far removed from normalcy that they will find a way to sell even their heartbreak.
Also, when Scott lost both of his parents, the Kardashians didn’t even go to the funerals nor did they tweet any support for him. Why? Instead, they had a party and posted pics of it everywhere.
If they announced it through the apps, then that was fine. Keeps people from asking about it. No details necessary, just saying no updates for a while is quite reasonable.
But if they made a general announcement outside the apps- yeah, you’re right. It was a promotion for their apps.
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I can’t imagine what his family is going through. This is heartbreaking and just so devastating. I am keeping him in my thoughts and I hope/pray for a miracle.
But, I really want that show to get canceled. Seriously. I hate that show and it needs to be off the air. It is poison. It served it’s purpose. Launched careers, we’ve seen them all create families, watched them all grow up, marriages, divorces, births, reconciliations, break ups and deaths, but now it’s time to end it. It really is toxic. Enough is enough.
I knew in the back of my mind that something would happen but I always thought Lamar would get it together. Maybe I had wishful thinking.
No need to cast blame. Very sad story for everyone involved.
I would agree that they shouldn’t have used him as a storyline on that show.
That’s not an excuse just something I personally feel was a bad choice especially because he has kids.
If you don’t feel bad for him Remember, both kids are old enough to be hurt by all these stories about their dad. Seems to me a lot of people have forgotten that he had a family prior to marrying the kardashian sister.
His dirty linen being hung out in the public eye affected more peoole than just the Kardashian sister and him.
I think they should have left him alone to struggle with his issues at least out of respect for his kids.
Hope that he can recover and Wishing his kids and all his family strength and love. Feel very sad for his kids.
While Lamar alone is responsible for his actions, they certainly had no eight to air his very personal issues so the media could have a big story on how far down he had gone. An addict doesn’t stay at the same place in addiction. They either keep spiraling down and using more or they fight the biggest battle of their life to get clean. I promise you the way media and K Klan depicted him in the last year or more has only made him more ashamed of his plight which made him want to use more til finally he lost his will to live. Every article about him now talks about his being in a brothel, how much he spent, drugs he took and of course how it is affecting Khloe and the Klan. It’s sickening!
Think about Lamar for a minute. Would he want to stay alive with a machine breathing for him a tube feeding him? World class athlete no matter how strong in life can’t be living like this. Say goodbye and let him go.
As a recovering addict, I know how hard this battle is, it is a daily struggle.
If he is at the stage where there is no hope for him to function normally, switch off the machines, it’s the humane decision, although I am sure it is so hard to make – whether the poor woman is a Kardashian or not. Such harsh comments, we’re all people.
May he rest and finally find peace.
Source =’s PMK & the Coven of Horz.
This is just horrid. I’m not American but to see a former top athlete a shadow of his former self is tragic. Too late or it’s just redundant to place blame now. It is as it is. Lamar had his own problems to deal with and being on the show while his career fumbled did not make things easier. It is possible that Khloe did or does care for Lamar but it is also possible that she cares for fame at the same time. It is just sad though that this family’s fame first bloomed from another tragedy i.e. OJ Simpson. But I guess, what is (reality) life if not for happiness, sadness, tragedy, family, friends, falling in and out of love etc. Sometimes, I wonder if we as a society have gone too far. Look at us…we may not have relished keeping up with the Ks but we discussed it, discussed them. It is what it is, a human interest story. We will go on, to live and learn.
Lamar, get well soon and I wish you and your family (be it your first family or Khloe) well.
ET,TMZ and E online are reporting he is doing much better
Hallelujah! I hope the update is true!
I am really skeptical of these new reports, though I hope they are true. It’s hard to believe someone ventilated with multiple organ failure could be speaking and off the tube within 72 hours.
I hope the reports are true too but that sounds like quite a miraculous turn around. Like I said, hopefully true.
He’s young and hopefully still strong, but that’s really exceptional if he’s made that kind of progress.
If he is indeed doing all that, I’m going to presume that the revolting Kardashians have been exaggerating and lying about his condition for publicity, because I do think they would stoop that low.
Or his father or hospital staff for money…
He could have been in a medically induced coma, but they conveniently omitted the first two words.
The latest report says he is being *gradually* taken off the ventilator, which makes more sense.
Organ failure can be temporary. The detoxifying organs such as the kidneys and liver can be overloaded but eventually the drug clears and if no permanent damage is done, then normal functioning can return. The lungs could also be affected temporarily by effects of a drug. Lamar is only in his thirties and is in better shape than many. He has a chance if any of it is reversible. If he had strokes as reported, that’s bad news because it means lack of oxygen to the brain briefly. But people can recover from strokes – it depends on what damage was done and how crucial that specific area of the brain is to normal functioning or how easy it is to divert the functions elsewhere by training. A friend went deaf for a while after a stroke but his hearing gradually returned. The younger the person, the better the chances.
Exactly. I’ve been in the hospital a few times with failing organs (not drug related). I’m ok, I don’t have any major health issues due to that and for the most part everything just kind of healed itself. I’m not running at 100% but I’m still fairly healthy, healthier than a lot of people who’ve never had such major health problems.
I don’t think the Kardashians were lying about his condition. The doctors said he had a 50/50 chance of survival, which after all he went through is a pretty optimistic estimate. When I was in hospital the last time my husband was told I had a 20% chance of survival. I’m alive and healthy today. That wasn’t treated like some kind of miracle turnaround. It’s not that unusual for people to come back from something like this.
Also it’s hard to know exactly how much a stroke/s have affected someone before they’re responsive. That he recognized Khloe and could speak is great news, it could have gone a completely different way, and doctors have to take the worst case scenario into account, which would have been extremely grim.
I’m glad he’s out of the coma and hope he recovers completely.
Great pen name, Otaku fairy.
This is why you never say on their last leg. Never count them out.
Glad their is improvement.
Very true. I hope he makes a full recovery and can conquer his addictions. Maybe if he could, Khloe and he could get back together. I haven’t had the impression she fell out of love with him, she just couldn’t live with the addictions and no one can blame her for that.
So glad he’s out of his coma! Hope he’s finally on his way to a speedy recovering! 👍
Don’t get me wrong–i have been hoping & praying for Lamar; but I don’t believe this new story (that he is breathing on his own, and said hey to kloe). Was there anyone else in the room beside kloe? Sorry, but this sounds like kardashian pr bs.
I hope so much that the new story is true, and Lamar will have a chance to turn his life around.
Addiction is a cunning and baffling disease. I hope he is getting better and feels real love from those who are close to him. That can help so much in the will to live and fight this overwhelming disease. Addicts use to alter their reality because they are so uncomfortable with themselves. God please help Lamar to recover his health and find the will and strength to want to live a sober life.
That was nice. Amen.
If he had ever felt real love before this episode, he wouldn’t be here now, would he?
I bet he felt real love from Khloe. She stood by him for a long time until she couldn’t take any more. Addiction is a powerful force and if he survives this he’s in for a real fight for having a clean life. Let’s hope he’s successful, there are obviously people who care about him and don’t want to lose him in their lives.
Amazing news!!! I came here to verify television reports that Lamar woke up – praying for his recovery.
what i find disturbing in this is the people article framing this man’s life or death plight in terms of the kardashians and how khloe is hanging on and all about THEM. ugh
People has become just a sensationalist tabloid that slants its stories certain ways for certain people. Remember all the Duggars-are-wonderful stories? They’re the same way with the Kardashians.
Khloe is actually part of the real story, since she is legally still his wife and has to make medical decisions. The rest of the Koven needs to stay far far in the background, especially Kim since she has been so openly against Lamar and any contact with him. Maybe they figured that out from all the negative reaction to their photo ops and leaking info from the hospital. Or maybe Khloe finally read them the riot act. She actually cares about the guy and her presence is a good thing for him despite all the conflicts they’ve had. You can love someone and still get very angry with them and do stupid things that hurt them. Without her Demon Mother and heartless sister Kim around, Khloe is very likely to keep a tight lid on things. I’m hoping this gives her the courage to leave the show and start living her own life away from the Kardashian kameras.
His $$ prior to 97 for prostitution & Later now on Drugs & whatever could be better used to stop his Sex/Drug addictions & focus on giving back and being an inspiration to children if he could just come back & see the worth of life, love he could give to those in need vs himself.
Honestly, you would think he was the only man who ever bought services from a prostitute. However do they make their money?!?
He was quite young when he had some legal trouble over a prostitute and weed. Certainly not the only young athlete to do so. His suspension years ago was for testing positive for weed. Hardly hardcore and weed didn’t affect his playing ability. Alcohol can, because of the hangover effect. At any rate, it is highly unlikely that he went to more problematic drugs until much later in his life and virtually impossible that he had a true addiction to them before then (he might not now, for all we know: the Kardashians are the major source for all of that, and they are hardly reliable). Not only addicts use drugs and alcohol to deal with stress and bad memories. He has problems with such substances, obviously. But the word addict is tossed around too readily. True addiction is a very different beast, although heavy use without addiction can still cause a lot of misery for the user and the people around him or her and can still be fatal. You can become addicted to a substance without any emotional baggage at all.
Thank you for the update. Hard to find the latest info and I am really hoping he lives.