Angelina Jolie covers WSJ. Mag: ‘So many times, people divorce very quickly’

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I’ve just spent way too much time reading Angelina Jolie’s WSJ. Magazine cover story. It’s a good piece, but not the best. Like, there’s a lot of stuff that I already knew, and there were a lot of quotes that are variations on stuff Angelina has said time and time again. But I did learn some new things. Like, Brad & Angie own a “lakeside retreat” near Springfield, Missouri and the Jolie-Pitt clan vacations there with Brad’s extended family. I also learned something new about By the Sea, as in… I think this is the plot of the film? I think Angelina’s character is dying and Brad’s character is trying to figure out a way to let her go. Some highlights:

What Brad hates: “Brad hates that I always scratch my glasses.”

Growing up in LA: “I grew up in L.A., where focus is very inward. I didn’t know why I was so destructive and miserable. I didn’t appreciate or understand my life. I was raised in a place where if you have fame and money and you’re decent-looking and have the ability to work in this industry, you have everything in the world. Then you attain those things and realize you still couldn’t be more empty. I didn’t know where to put myself.”

What Marie-Noelle Little-Boyer, a U.N. officer says about Angelina: “The trips are never about her; it’s about what she sees and how she uses it, how it feeds her advocacy work. She has the rare ability to sit down and spend hours with refugees, but she has an equally deft touch when she advocates for them with political leaders. I sometimes think she spends more time in the field than a lot of my colleagues.” And certainly more time than the great majority of her fellow actors. Little-Boyer speaks with barely disguised disdain of the “massive circus groups” organized for Hollywood stars. “They stop at one tent and hold a baby,” she says. “That’s precisely not what these trips are with [Jolie Pitt]. It’s just refugees and her in this intimate space. There’s no place for anything Hollywood or celebrity.”

She’s sparse about what she says on the record about the UN: “I don’t want to speak up just to be on record. I’m not somebody who believes that just to criticize is going to make a difference.”

Brad on his wife’s surgeries: “She’s never been a person who hides. She’s utterly forthcoming and sincere about who she is… I’ll tell you this about her surgeries: Once the decision was made, she was on the operating table two weeks later. You have to understand that this is a woman who never knew she’d make it to 40. This is a woman who had watched her mother, aunt and grandmother become sick and eventually succumb, all at an early age. Her drive, her absolute value in herself, is defined by the impact she can have during her time here—for her kids and for the underprivileged and those suffering injustices.”

Angie on the reminders of her wild-child past: “I don’t mind. I mean, I think you just have to look at whether or not you can still be effective with what you want to do. And if anything gets in the way of that, then you have a problem. But I don’t.”

An amazing story about Hamsters of Doom. Equally comical is the image of Jolie Pitt, still in costume as her character Vanessa, joining the kids at the local pet store to acquire what ended up being “quite a few” hamsters. Pitt was out of town, and Jolie Pitt had been charmed by the sight of some chipmunks in the window, so she met the children there after work. “So I was Vanessa in the pet store, which was already a whole bunch of weird. And then I put my finger near a chipmunk, and it nearly bit it off. Then we saw these tiny little miniature hamsters, and somehow everybody wanted one or two. By the time Dad got home, they were running everywhere. And there are cats all over Malta, so we had the cats going after the hamsters and the hamsters escaping and it was hysterical.”

What she wants for her kids: “I want to make sure my kids are never worried about me. Even if I’m going through something, I make sure they are very aware that I’m totally fine. I’ll stop and make a joke, I talk to them. I never, ever want them to have that secret worry and feel that they have to take care of me.”

On divorce: “When something happens in your life that’s a dramatic thing, you either pull together or you go into your own. So many times, people divorce very quickly. To me, if this film has a message, it’s that you have to try to weather the storm together no matter what. And that’s a beautiful thing.”

[From WSJ. Magazine]

While I proudly wear my Brangeloonie Badge, I have to say that I think it’s a bit rich for Angelina to say “So many times, people divorce very quickly.” Gurl, you were divorced twice before you were 30. You couldn’t get out of the marriage to Billy Bob Thornton fast enough. I get that she’s now coming from a perspective of being in a solid relationship for a decade, but a little less judgment for those people with “starter marriages” under their belts, please. Oh, and Angelina also told WSJ. Magazine that the kids have three teachers on staff for home-schooling, but that no one stays overnight, it’s just Brad and Angie taking care of the kids in the evenings. Do you believe that?

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Photos courtesy of WSJ. Magazine.

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  1. Diana M. says:

    No, Niels Arestrup character’s wife was terminally ill, and he had to let her go in the movie.

    • lower-case deb says:

      i think so too, at least it’s whats hinted in the BTS, where Neil’s character (the bartender) is said to be coming to terms with letting his wife die?

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jCTHVejhwZM
      i’m excited to see this film now, the other actors seem very solid.

      Melanie Laurent seems like a carefree girl here, and Neils look like he’s carrying the weight of the world.

      so i guess this is really an exploration about different types of love? the young love, the stand-by-you love and the let-go-of-you love?

      it seems that it’s about Angie’s and Brad’s characters’ journey from leaving their puppy love (Melanie and Melville) and be more like the Bartender?

      i hope they’ll going to show it where i live

    • not cynical says:

      That’s what I got from reading about the film, too. Where the older man tells Brad he had to love his wife enough to let her go. I don’t think Vanessa is “dying”. I think there may have been a death of some kind, a miscarriage, or something traumatic

      Angie has said the movie is not about the death of a child, at least not about a child that had lived. I don’t think she could do a movie about that, it would be too hard on her and Brad to have to even think of that, being parents, themselves..

      • Mrs Odie says:

        I don’t know about that. Most actors who do movies about dead children are probably parents. Nicole Kidman did Rabbit Hole.

      • not cynical says:

        Angie has specifically said the film was not about the death of a child. She said that quite a while ago when the film was first announced.

  2. tracking says:

    Yeah, I chuckled at the divorce line too. I think she is talking about the movie though, and was just a little less articulate than usual. I have no problem with thinking staff stay through dinner, possibly even kids’ bedtime, but don’t stay the night. Even if they’re accustomed to having lots of help, the family would want some privacy.

    • swack says:

      Also, most of them are old enough not to need nannies full time. So it wouldn’t surprise me that they don’t have any one staying overnight. For the most part, the children are sleeping and none of them need night time feedings or changing.

      • WinnieCoopersMom says:

        “For the most part, the children are sleeping and none of them need night time feedings or changing.” LOL which of them would need a night time feeding or changing? ;) Vivienne and Knox are 6

    • BESO says:

      I know people will automatically go to either her previous marriages or Brad’s.

      However, the unspoken there is: where there is a love that’s still there and/or granted you got married for the right reasons in the first place and not to ‘fix’ something broken inside you, it’s worth hanging in.

      If you didn’t, checking for the exit is fine.

      Let’s not pretend that every marriage is based on true love. Many are based on insecurities and actually hiding from life.

      I think both she and Brad have already said they previously got hitched for the wrong reasons, in so many words.

    • Eleonor says:

      Yep! I’ve chuckled too…in my opinion it’s the opposite “sometimes people get married too fast”…

    • tealily says:

      Eh, I just took it as her speaking from experience. She’s gone through it a couple times, and she knows what they’re doing differently this time. It didn’t seem judgmental to me.

    • not cynical says:

      Brad has causally mentioned in interviews before, how nights at their house are very chaotic.

      Remember when he said he sometimes lies on the couch watching TV or relaxing, and he sees Angie going full strength getting everyone settled, and he feels guilty, and gets up and starts helping her.

  3. Franca says:

    I think she was speaking from her own experience, as in, she divorced very quickly, but now she knows better.
    Anyway, I really like what she says here. She seems to be a very nice person, and as grounded as possible considering the life she has.

    • Patricia says:

      Exactly what I want going to say. She is totally open with the fact that she has learned from her mistakes in life. She’s not preaching, she’s observing and relating what she has experienced.

    • Pandy says:

      That was my take away as well.

    • tealily says:

      Just made the same comment before I read this, but yes, I agree.

    • not cynical says:

      Also, Angie was probably aiming that statement towards couples with children.

      Even though she had Maddox when she left BBT, she already knew he didn’t want to be a parent to Madd. Maddox’s adoption wasn’t even final, that’s why Angie is listed as a single parent when adopting Maddox.

  4. jasmine says:

    Hind sight is 20/20. I loved what she said. When she’s speaking on divorce I think she’s speaking from experience.

    • FLORC says:

      I took it as the same.

      It’s a moment of truth in a relationship. Work on it or go. Not always so simple either, but if both parties are sincere and want to make it work with a foundation of love you have a better chance than most.
      Marriage isn’t easy. Worth it though.

      • not cynical says:

        With the right person, marriage is definitely worth the effort. I can’t imagine how awful marriage would be if it was not with the right person.

        I think both Brad and Angie both, know what it feels like to be married to someone they may have loved at the time, but turned out to be the wrong person for them.

    • V4Real says:

      Yeah she gets a pass on this. Now if this were someone like Pam Anderson or Elizabeth Taylor I would offer a cup of shut-up.

    • MrsNix says:

      I agree. There was no judgment in that statement; only observation. People get married and, oftentimes, divorce when the marriage hits its first valley. Lifelong relationships are not rosy and wonderful every day, all the time. There are many phases, and there are peaks and valleys. In a good marriage, made between two people who got married for the right reasons and have the will to stick through the occasional rough patch, the peaks are much more frequent and much more intense than the valleys. Still. Every marriage will go through something rough. It might be illness. It might be resentment when new stages of life are entered and one partner feels he or she is bearing more of the burden. It might be dissatisfaction with the self allowed to immaturely splash and project all over the partner. Lots of things can go wrong because people are flawed.

      Marriage must be an unselfish act more often than it is a selfish one.

      I didn’t read anything even approaching judgment there. Only an observation. Sometimes people hit one of those valleys and just bail, and she only stated that it is a beautiful and meaningful thing to stay put and go through it together.

  5. Paige says:

    I think she was talking more about the character in the movie and maybe a little about her past relationships. I really love this photo shoot. She looks gorgeous.

  6. Maya says:

    Umm the main reason Angelina and Billy divorced was because he wasn’t ready to raise a child. That’s a game changer and there is pretty much nothing you can do if one party wants children and the other doesn’t.

    And there was a lovely sentence from Laura Hillenbrand (author of Unbroken) who said that she now calls Angelina her sister and that she is a brave woman for talking about her double mastectomy.

    I would love to be part of Angelina’s female friends group – you have Angelina, Laura, Marianne Pearl, Jane Goodall, Loung Ung and Queen Rania who have been friends for more than a decade. All of them have different interests and experiences in life and yet they are all feminists, independent, strong females…

    • Bae says:

      Is she really good friends with these women? Does she really hang out regularly with Queen Rania?

      • Maya says:

        They themselves say they are close friends so why the doubt?

        Is it because it’s Angelina and it doesn’t fit with she is a vamp, man eater and doesn’t have any female friends narrative the media and some people say…

      • FingerBinger says:

        @Maya Can’t you answer a simple question without attacking? It was a legitimate question. It’s cool if she’s really friends with Jane Goodall.

      • Fishfishbirdcats says:

        Geez, it was just a question, Maya.

    • Bae says:

      Is she really good friends with these women? Does she really hang out regularly with Queen Rania?

      • not cynical says:

        I doubt they do lunch at one of HW’s pap restaurants, but I think they see each other when they are in whatever part of the world they find themselves, together.

        Angelina doesn’t seem the type to have “industry friends” you know the type, the women that have the same publicist get set up for a PR lunch. Which is fine for them, but that doesn’t seem to be what kind of friends Angie has or wants to have.

        Angie’s friends do not talk about her to the press, neither do Brad’s friends, unless Brad has given them permission. Their friends are a tight group, if they weren’t, Brad and Angie wouldn’t be friends with them. They keep their private life, private.

        Most people didn’t know they go to Missouri as often as they do, nor that they have a lake house there, where all Brad’s relatives come and hang out with them.

    • Suzy from Ontario says:

      Such an interesting group of strong and opinionated women! I bet they have some great chats about the world and the people in it! Oh to be a fly on the wall…

  7. FingerBinger says:

    I still don’t know what the film is about.

    • kay says:

      i said this above, but i am starting to think this is about a couple who lost a child….or a pregnancy? loss, though, definitely.

  8. littlemissnaughty says:

    I rarely comment on Jolie/Pitt posts because while I admire her, I don’t love her as an actress and the Brange gossip is a little boring to me. They’re so hyper-controlling about their image, it’s almost comical. But they’re great at it so good for them. What I hate are “profiles” where people are interviewed about the person who’s profiled. A lot of times it’s such an a**kissing parade that I heave. Sure, her husband isn’t going to say something scandalous about his wife but I still have to roll my eyes at these types of articles.

    • Colette says:

      I get it,I also roll my eyes by articles who interview insiders or sources who don’t have the balls to use their name I.e industry sources,a well known studio head,etc

    • BESO says:

      What’s ‘hyper controlling?’ I’ve been around a while, have watched Angelina and Brad grow up, me along with them. I can’t speak much on Brad as he’s one of those less is more southern-ish/mid western close mouthed male types. He’s not going to spill his guts unaided or at the drop of a hat.

      Angelina though, I used to wonder how many heart attacks her manager had every week. She was always discussing her flaws and issues and crazy before anyone else was even thinking or writing about it.

      She was a tattooed actress (when hardly no one was) who publicly talked about loving a girl and sex with her husband among many other things that at the time would not ensure that you’d be employable.

      That’s kind of like the opposite of hyper controlled image making.

      To me she just grew up. She doesn’t run away from any of that, and she still talks about sex with her husband. Lol

      • littlemissnaughty says:

        You’re picking a period from her life that’s long over though. Ever since the two of them got together, they’ve been very very aware of the PR side of things. Even the way they came out as a couple was strategically planned (please don’t tell me those pics were coincidence, I won’t believe it for a second). If you think all of this is just the adult version and they’re going with the flow, that’s fine. I just don’t see it that way. And considering her humanitarian efforts, I don’t see how they could be anything but controlling about things. It’s a necessity at this point and not this horrible thing people make it out to be.

      • BESO says:

        Littlemiss,

        People grow up. They no longer want to do at 35 or 40 what they did at 19. Be it getting high, or jumping in a pool with a ballgown on, or walking into work hungover on Monday from heavy partying on the weekend, like I did. lol People mature, evolve, become parents with hopefully good jobs and more responsibility. Doesn’t mean it’s less fun, it’s a different kind of fun. Maybe flying a plane you bought replaces pool jumping! Lol

        That’s life.

        Also, I recall the way they ‘came out as a couple,’ wasn’t the best of circumstances. Flying all over the world not even 4-5 months after a high profile split is not ideal. So don’t know how the ‘so called,’ image making even applies.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        You did not grow up with these people and you do not know them. You watched them age on film as you aged. That is not the same as knowing them…at all.

        Sure, when she was young and emotionally imbalanced, she said alot of stuff that her father and manager cringed at. But it wasn’t immaturity – she was not mentally healthy and now she is. And, yes, they are very controlling of both their public images and there’s nothing wrong with that except much of their words, PDA, etc. seem convenient and contrived. I am fans of both of them, but neither are saints nor devils and I surely don’t deign to think I actually know them.

      • BESO says:

        @jenniferjustice

        I didn’t say I knew them. My point, and I don’t see how you missed it, is that I was more or less the same age as they were, and I said I’ve watched them grow, mature and take on responsibility much as I’ve done. I’m more or less at the same juncture in my life.

        Why are you deliberately misconstruing something so simple?

        Someone who’s Bieber’s age, at 35, MAY be able to say, I remember when he was an awful obnoxious dbag at 22.

        Or, maybe he will still be one, or, be worse!

        I’m able to say these two over the years have seemingly evolved into happy, well-adjusted responsible parents/spouses who are great examples for anyone…because I was around when they seemed less so. well-adjusted

      • BESO says:

        Also, @Jenniferjustice

        I really do need to add the following –

        Angelina has never said she had a mental illness or was ‘mentally unhealthy.’ I don’t believe she or anyone who knows her, knew her then – had ever used the words “emotionally imbalanced,” either.

        According to lore, her Dad called her crazy and said she had mental problems.

        Except like most things with Angelina, context is not considered ever and things get skewed into falsehoods: Angelina had done interviews discussing her self-destructive tendencies, in particular her cutting and drug use, which at that stage was behind her. She was divorcing.

        Her Dad went on TV and the context and line of questioning was ‘Why didnt you know what your daughter was dealing with?’ His answer was *that he did NOT know.* He answered ‘I didn’t know about the *mental problems* that she discussed.’

        The press took that and ran with it.

        It became ‘Jon Voight says Angelina has mental problems.’

        ..or the other thing that people who don’t like her often say, ‘Even her own Dad thinks she’s crazy.’

        The only accurate takeaway is that Jon Voight was too absentee to know what was going on with his child, and when he did see her, he couldn’t see/tell, that anything was wrong!

        People who think they are ‘contrived and convenient,’ are few and far between, and that is your opinion of course, but to what end?

        First, the PDA thing? That’s a weird accusation. Why’s it hard to believe or acknowledge they like being together? They can’t win, either they’re super in lusty love, voracious with incredible appetites for each other or they hate each other and are faking.

        How about a happy medium, they’re still in love, boats still float and they love a good date night and each other’s company?

        Isn’t that a possibility?

        To the other –

        ..it’s not required that oscar winning press making movie stars be perceived as perfect as Tom Hanks, you can also be Jack Nicolson, or Liz Taylor.

        Who says you have to be the good charitable girl, when the bad girl that makes sex tapes gets as much press and bank in Hollywood?

        Or when the guy that faces enumerable arrests (shia) accusations of molestation (woody) or is a hit and run driver w/awful taste in men (halle) or 12 husbands (liz) or a drug addict/drunk (to many people to name) or a girl that cheats on her beloved movie star bf and helped break up a family(kstew)- still get endorsements, awards, bank and movie roles? You can run down the list – Marilyn, Natalie Wood – even Joanne Woodward was purported to have ‘stolen’ married w/children Paul Newman.

        Having a clean PR made image is good if you’re running for political office, but why would Brad or Angelina or any HUGE movie star ever HAVE to do that to be successful??! ANSWER: They don’t.

        In fact, I think being staid and wholesome probably hurts them more. Lol

        if Brad was as romantically prolific as a Leo D he’d be just as famous, and if Angelina had gone on to adopt 10 more kids on her own and ‘make,’ every other leading man fall head over hills in her wake, she’d be just as famous.

        I usually get no good answers to my question, sometimes people say things like, well she does it not to be a movie star, but more to be seen as a humanitarian. Uh. Ok.

        Do people realize being a humanitarian is her choice? That’s the whole point of it. Does anyone really think she said to her 24 yr old self, ‘I’m doing this for my long term goal of being made a dame and special envoy?’

        Rather than making Good use of her very good life and setting a great example for her kids that there’s more to life than Hollywood?

        Audrey Hepburn was known at one time for her scandalous affair with married Bill Holden – her fans would be greatly insulted if anyone ever implied her work with UNICEF was contrived.

      • FLORC says:

        BESO
        I agree. I’m not going to pick your comment apart and act passive aggressively to how long it was. I had a lot of information and I appreciate you clearing it up and taking the time.

        We all post here and can be ranty. It happens.

    • not cynical says:

      @littlemissnaughty:
      I don’t see it as “hyper-controlling” their image”, I see it as trying to keep their private life as private as they can, for them to have some sense of normalcy for their children’s sake.

      Angelina Jolie Pitt is one of the most honest celebrities when it comes to her past. While some like to harp on her early behavior, before she was 26, Angie has already told everything about that time. She’s never tried to hide anything, she owns her mistakes, and her behavior.

      You have to give her credit, she’s never harmed another person, never been arrested, never been to rehab. In today’s world of celebrities in that age bracket, that makes her seem as if she had a boring youth.

  9. ramy says:

    One of the worst comments I have ever read on this sit

  10. Colette says:

    She is obviously talking about the married couple in the movie and the dramatic thing they are going through.

  11. Suzy from Ontario says:

    “Her drive, her absolute value in herself, is defined by the impact she can have during her time here—for her kids and for the underprivileged and those suffering injustices.”

    I think that’s such a profound thing to say and so true… your value really is about the impact you have on the lives around you and the good you do in the world. It’s not about fancy clothes or how much money you accumulate, it’s really about the impact you have on the world. That can be of such incredible value because when you do good and make a positive difference to someone, that’s like a pebble falling into a pond and that good ripples out on to so many others.

    I admire Angelina for overcoming a lot of her own issues and deciding she wanted to make a positive difference in the world. She isn’t just talking the talk and doing photo ops or setting up faux-charity foundations that do nothing except steal money (yes, I’m looking at you Madonna). She is using her fame and her money and her own voice to try to drop some of those pebbles in the world and I think that’s wonderful, especially because she does so in the face of those sneering about her wild past and tabloids still posting old pictures of her high and in full rebelliousness. She’s come a long way and turned into a truly amazing woman.

    She and Tom Hiddleston should join forces. They both seem to truly care about the injustices in the world and both are so articulate about the horrors they have seen.

  12. Ennie says:

    I teared up at what Brad said about her life and her health. This is how we should live life.
    .
    She was trying to live life in her own misguided terms, until she found a more healthier path. Commendable.

  13. Candice says:

    Its true. People sometimes divorce easy because they young and the don’t know how to wheather the up and down of relationship. She looks raw meaning nearly bare face in this photo shoots but still her shots comes always good to look at and that is rare.

  14. Saphana says:

    ” I’ll tell you this about her surgeries: Once the decision was made, she was on the operating table two weeks later.”

    if you have the money, sure its possible.

    • Ennie says:

      I think he meant differently, as in she is a person who makes a decision and starts to act.
      My aunt had myomas, and she was listening to her doctor say that he would not mutilate a woman… menain he would not operate on her to take her utero. My aunt wasted too much time and lost a lot of blood and suffered for something she knew it had to be made. When she decided togo through with it with a different doctor, she was decisive.
      Even in a public hospital in a third world country, one can make decisions and make them for the better.
      Yes, money helps A LOT, bit that is not a reason to attack Angelina here, at least I don’t think so. But people will always find something to dislike about them

    • lisa2 says:

      I have a friend that had the surgery. She made her choice and the did the surgery within weeks.

      She has insurance. is a TEACHER not a millionaire. This surgery is not just for people of wealth. And if you have the means why apologize for being able to do it. .

      • june says:

        Thank you.
        People will find anything to whine about.

      • Brittney B. says:

        I’m glad to hear teachers can access the procedure quickly too!

        Maybe it’s a sign of health care getting better (in some ways, at least). I know the reform has completely changed my own life. We still have a long way to go, but Angelina has never pretended otherwise. She acknowledges her privilege throughout everything, so it throws me when people criticize them for being out-of-touch.

      • V4Real says:

        “Maybe it’s a sign of health care getting better (in some ways, at least).”

        I sure hope so because I had a coworker who had breast cancer and had a mastectomy of both breast and she’s up to her neck in medical bills. She started the process for reconstruction but has yet to complete it.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      Down girl. All he’s saying is she is a decisive woman who follows through once she makes a decision. She isn’t a fence-rider or wishy washy.

  15. neer says:

    Kaiser, I think you got it wrong. My understanding about her statement re divorce is she is talking in general and that includes her past experiences or divorces as well. She does not sound preachy. In fact, sometimes she replies in self-deprecating manner.

  16. Fanny says:

    It’s incredibly judgey for her to say that people cut out of marriages early. She doesn’t know what goes on in other people’s marriages or what their problems are.

    She was married to Billy Bob Thornton for a short while – was the problem just that they didn’t give it enough time? Does she think that she would have been better off giving it another 3-5 years? Does she think the marriage could have survived if only they’d spent more time to work through it? I’m betting her answers to those questions would be “no” and that she’s very grateful she got out of it and was free to pursue a better relationship with Brad.

    In Angie’s case, the problem with BBT was more likely that they got into it way too fast, both of them were unstable, and that the marriage was largely lust-based. We know that because they loved oversharing the details of their marriage with the entire world. But I reiterate that she doesn’t know what the situation is for the rest of the world’s non-famous and non-oversharing population so she really can’t make that assessment.

    She’s certainly not the only person who says it – it always bugs me when I hear people say it.

    • BESO says:

      I think it was a given that she was talking about people who got in it (marriage) for the right reasons.

      She’s also talking about her film, and those characters.

    • Brittney B. says:

      BESO got it. She’s not saying people “cut out early” or give up on their marriages too soon after getting married… read the full quote. She was talking about her FILM and splitting up right after trauma (not right after marriage):

      “When something happens in your life that’s a dramatic thing, you either pull together or you go into your own. So many times, people divorce very quickly.”

      People divorce very quickly… after something dramatic happens. The context is kind of important. And the next sentence is about the message of the film: choosing to pull together and weather the storm.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Ohhh. Thanks, I see what you mean. I was a little hurt by that remark but I think you’re exactly right. So many people divorce after the death of a child, for example, or some other trauma. Maybe it’s just the last straw on an already weak marriage but she feels you shouldn’t make the decision too soon. That makes sense. You can be my interpreter from now on.

    • not cynical says:

      Fanny: No one has ever said Angie was “unstable”, except for her very unstable father. Angie said the main reason she and BBT couldn’t make it work was the fact they spent so little time together and grew apart. Plus the fact Angie was maturing, while BBT was not.

  17. minx says:

    I believe that they don’t have nannies stay the night. The twins are 7, they aren’t toddlers. And the older kids seem very sweet and responsible with their younger siblings.

    • lucy2 says:

      I would imagine they did when the kids were younger, but now they’re old enough I can believe they don’t.

    • idsmith says:

      Plus you can kind of tell by how connected the kids seem to their parents. You can tell the kids adore them, and that’s not really how I believe it would be if the kids saw them rarely and mainly interacted with nannies.
      They used to say they had a 9 foot bed due to all the co-sleeping that went on in their family

  18. Whatever Gurl says:

    I don’t perceive her remark about people divorcing too early as judgy.

    Since she does discuss her concern for her kids’ sense of security, the point that I get is–particularly when kids are involved–sometimes people react too quickly and they need to try to work on the marriage instead of boom–I’m done.

    Again, I think the fact that she was indeed divorced twice before age of 30 signals that she is not passing judgement.

    She speaks of her empty childhood and she wants her kids to feel secure.

    • Brittney B. says:

      She’s not talking about people who get divorced soon after getting married, though. She’s talking about marriages that don’t survive death or trauma.

  19. Brittney B. says:

    The divorce line has nothing to do with why they waited to get married… it’s about the effect of trauma on a relationship. People do tend to divorce quickly after a great loss or a huge change. She’s talking about the plot of the movie.

    I don’t want to give anything away (and it’s just a guess anyway), but if the movie’s about what I think it’s about… then I think the success rate is especially minuscule for couples who go through this particular trauma.

  20. perplexed says:

    Never mind. My comment may not be relevant now that the other part of the movie has been contextualized.

  21. BESO says:

    Loving all the Brad and Angie posts, keep them coming Kaiser!

    • Camille says:

      Makes a great change from the non stop Kartrashian, Cumberbore and Hiddlesnerd posts that are normally posted here that is for sure :D .

  22. Jayna says:

    Sure, I believe they have no one at night. They have the cook cook dinner and clean up. The maid has the house nice and clean, as clean as you can for four kids. Assistants to Brad and Angie have taken care of little details.

    Homework I doubt is as heavy for Maddox like it is here, where with FCAT, the hours are horrendous anymore for kids studying at night. Anyway, no one spends the night. That time is with the kids. But it’s not like they have to get everything ready for leaving for school the next morning, lunches made for them, on and on.

    Even with that, six kids wear you out and I believe they are great parents. I just don’t see why it’s not believable no one sleeps there at night. You don’t want people in your home 24/7. They want some time alone with their kids without people around.

    And something traumatic in your life, horrible illness, death, on and on, can either pull you together or can tear you apart. I agree with her.

  23. Leonie says:

    Um, I think it is precisely because she has been divorced twice, that she can speak FROM EXPERIENCE.

    • BESO says:

      Yea but the key is that she plainly says, a traumatic experience that can tear a couple apart.

      That wasn’t why her marriage with Jonny or Billy ended. Nothing traumatic happened.

    • Alice too says:

      When she’s been married for 20 years and has fought to save her marriage in the very bad times, THEN she can speak from experience.

  24. Moon says:

    I’m pretty sure they have part time babysitters, but nothing full time like a certain duchess. It’s pretty telling what she said about not wanting her kids to every worry about her or feel like they have to take care of her. Seems like she’s reveling a lot about her relationship dynamic with her own mum.

  25. SloaneY says:

    I’m going to be nit picky here because it’s a pet peeve of mine but… I can’t stand when people treat getting a pet as a whimsical spur of the moment thing with no planning or taking responsibility for the well being of the animals involved.

    They bought hamsters because “everyone wanted one or two”? And then got them home and they were “running everywhere” and cats on the island were chasing them and it was “hysterical”?

    How about telling your kids that pets are a huge responsibility and they need to do research about care and feeding before taking them home? How about buying proper supplies (like cages) so they aren’t running free where cats can chase them? I’m sure those hamsters didn’t think it was “hysterical”.

    • Kitten says:

      Yeah that jumped out at me too. I’m hoping that she was sort of embellishing and adding her own “whimsy” to the story…

      • Yepisaidit says:

        I’m guessing the hampsters were in the plastic hamster balls because a cat is faster than a hamster and the kids would have trouble catching hamsters running on the loose with cats chasing them.

  26. maggie says:

    Nice pics other than the one with her wearing a leotard. Good lord!!!

    • Noodle says:

      Yes. I have to agree about the leotard picture. But i just might be seeing things.
      The hamster quote… just isn’t “hysterical”

      • Yepisaidit says:

        If you have the hamsters in their ball it is pretty funny – I’m just guessing that’s what she meant because none of them would’ve lived or been found had they been running free. The cats would’ve been well fed.

      • SloaneY says:

        Even if that’s the case, still not “hysterical”. How would you feel if someone bought you and put you in a giant ball and let lions chase after you for fun?

    • Birdix says:

      and the black pointe shoes, tied all wrong. ugh.

  27. Alice too says:

    The divorce comment gets a side-eye from me when the person saying it is on marriage number 3, the first two having lasted 3 years each. Whose husband is on marriage number 2, the first having lasted 5 years. It’s a bit hypocritical, imo.

    • not cynical says:

      Alice too: “Husband number 2′s” first marriage lasted four and a half years, and at least a year and a year and half of that time, they were estranged.

      • Alice too says:

        Could be. But it’s pretty hard to work to get your marriage back on track if you’re not around and just decide to check out.

  28. Diana M. says:

    Wow.

  29. Sullivan says:

    I second your “Wow.”