Duchess Kate ‘is highly intelligent, well-briefed & does her research’, sources say


Come along, children. It’s time for another episode of The Duchess of Cambridge Is Going To Be Like Diana, We Promise. The Cambridges’ PR guy, Poor Jason, spends more time leaking information to the press about how Kate is totally going to work more than he spends actually convincing Kate to work more. For today’s episode, Poor Jason went to the Daily Express rather than the Daily Mail. It also seems like this story has been designed (by committee) to refute that Daily Beast story about Kate’s fear of public speaking, plus there seems to be an interest in changing Kate’s image from “clothes hanger” to “humanitarian.” You can read the full Express story here. Here’s the main thrust.

The Duchess of Cambridge will take on a new high-profile role to champion the causes closest to her heart as she grows into her role as a future modern Queen. Becoming a mother has made Kate so impassioned about campaigning for children that she has decided to give more speeches to get her message across, even though she finds public speaking daunting. Until now, as a new member of the Royal Family she has found it difficult to come to the fore, sources said. But the 33-year-old has been honing her oratory skills to overcome her fears so she can “lead conversations” about issues most important to her.

The mother-of-two plans to step out of William’s shadow to take her own charity work to “the next level”, according to royal insiders. A well-placed source said: “The Duchess hasn’t given that many speeches and when she has, she has felt the pressure as a newer member of the Royal Family in the spotlight. That has sometimes unfairly led to suggestions that she doesn’t have much to say. In fact the opposite is true. The tone of some of the reporting of the Duchess has not always chimed with the woman she really is. She is highly intelligent, well-briefed and does her research, including reading scientific papers. She is very engaged with all the issues concerning young people and is at the heart of a great many conversations behind palace gates.

“When it comes to her charities, the Duchess has always read up but now she feels it is time to speak up too. We have already seen her leading the conversation about children’s mental health and she has taken great confidence from that. This is all coming from the Duchess. She is going to be making more speeches and we will be hearing her voice coming through on a lot more royal engagements from now on.”

Kensington Palace refused to comment on whether the Duchess has had voice coaching although royals have traditionally relied on experts.

Behind palace gates, household staff have become increasingly frustrated by the media focus on Kate’s clothes and occasional off-the-cuff remarks, instead of the real substance of what she is saying. She has been portrayed as a passive figure and was dubbed “Waity Katy” before becoming engaged to William in 2010 following a seven-year courtship.

Those close to Kate insist that far from being a walkover, she “knows her own mind” and has a fiercely competitive streak. As one friend put it: “Catherine is a confident, self-assured woman. She is impeccably well-mannered and genuinely interested in what others have to say. People say she is ‘nice’ as if that is a bad thing. She is kind. She is caring, but she isn’t a doormat. She knows her own mind and can give as good as she gets.”

[From The Express]

There’s a lot to unpack here. Re: giving speeches. I’ve never thought her refusal to be a big-time speech-maker belied any superficiality on Kate’s part. I always thought it was more about her laziness. As in, she couldn’t be bothered to make any effort to learn how to make speeches and bring her voice to the table. And if she wants to take on a bigger role and do more charity work… good. That would be a welcome change of pace. But we’ve been hearing variations on the same “she’s going to be doing more, we promise!” for years now, and after a few appearances, the New & Improved Kate goes on vacation for months at a time and then the PR people have to rebuild her “new and improved” image all over again. And just for the record… the “superficial” label is there for a reason, because the version of Kate that the public sees is all wiglets, inappropriate grins and Marilyn Moments at a handful of “fun” events like yacht races, sporting events and glitzy premieres. There’s a reason why people think Kate lacks depth, I’m just saying.


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  1. Amelia says:

    Yeah, and I’m the long-lost Tsarina of Russia returning to kick out Putin and take his place riding around the country with my shirt off.

      • antipodean says:

        Poor Jason is just working his socks off on this one. If he says it enough times, we may come to believe it! His levels of frustration must be epic.
        I wonder if Betty Windsor looks at this next generation, and despairs for the future of this ailing institution? She has given a lifetime of sterling service, and the next wave are such empty headed wasters. Enough to make one weep.

      • Cricket says:

        Lol! Thanks for the laugh! And as Poor Jason is working his bum off…speaking of bum, where is the dear WAG Queen? Holiday in Mustique possibly as she prepares her comeback?

  2. Ivy says:

    My head hurts from all the eye-rolling I did while reading this article. Thanks future modern Queen Kate!

    • Mrs Darcy says:

      SOmeone said best on one of CB’ posts…Kate is going to be the WAG qeen..that is the best title for her if she ever does become the queen. Wigs and wags queen :P

    • Stephanie says:

      Poor Jason, please note: Placing a scientific paper on top of Kate’s Mustique agenda so that she has to move the paper to get to the agenda does not count as “reading.” LOL

      • Pondering thoughts says:

        Yep, with Kate everything is generously defined. They should just include her shopping and her hair saloon visits into her Royal Duties and her engagement numbers will look splendid.

  3. India says:

    It really is way too late for the public to believe that this woman is highly intelligent and does any form of research. Too much has happened. She is nothing but a big lazy joke with fake everything.

    • Jules says:

      The only ‘research’ she does is ‘shopping’.

      • Pondering thoughts says:

        Research topic:

        Research Questions:
        - When can I go shopping next time?
        - Where can I go shopping?
        - How much can I spend? Not to myself: check credit card limit. Check credit card limit of William’s credit card.

        Further Research Questions:
        - How do I get a credit card without spending limit?
        - How many public engagements do I have to do for a shopping trip?
        - How is shopping in the Carribean and how do I arrange for our next overseas trip to get me to shopping?

    • jammypants says:

      especially if anyone’s seen a bit of her “speeching”

    • FuefinaWG says:

      I wish someone famous, who has nothing to lose, would call out Normal Bill & Duchess Duckface. Maybe the Queen on her deathbed …

  4. Anastasia says:

    I find it sad that anyone has to insist that she’s intelligent. It would embarrass me if someone felt like they had to say that about me. If you’re intelligent, people know.

    • Betti says:

      Yes I agree – its rather humiliating to have someone go around publically telling people you are intelligent when it should be obvious but then again she has always been very closed off, never giving the public any hint of who she really is (what we have seen seems to focus around her appearance).

      I have witnessed first hand what happens to people who keep spouting how ‘intelligent’ they are – they are usually the ones who have no clue and eff up all the time, while others (who know how to do the job) are left to clean up the mess the ‘so called’ intelligent people leave behind.

      • daisy says:

        So agree with you betti
        had experience in business of those type of people who claim super intelligence
        think its all huff and puff… she will always come across as arm candy since she showed all her nether regions on royal engagements dont thiñk anyone intelligent would have done those things when representing our country.

    • Jan says:

      IKR. Can you imagine telling your boss how intelligent you are and then not doing your job? In essence, Jason is making Kate look worse than ever by continually pointing out how lame she is .

    • Natalie says:

      Right? Like nuh uh, you guys! Kate’s totally smart!

      She doesn’t have to be an intellectual. No one’s asking that. Just don’t be cynical and apathetic.

      • Pondering thoughts says:

        Well, when it comes to Royal engagements Kate is rather phlegmatic. Hardly doing any and if she does some then she just smiles and says silly things but nothing substantial. She is close …

    • FuefinaWG says:

      I’m intelligent and I don’t have to read “scientific papers” to have an opinion on something.

      • Cricket says:

        Scientific papers on what hair makes the most realistic wiglet for her hair type, what dietary guidelines one needs to gain their post baby body back in one week, what eyeliner stays on and in place longer without smudging.

  5. Betti says:

    The proof is in the pudding – she needs to get out there and prove us all wrong, so far all she’s proved is the snark. Instead of telling us how intelligent and engaged she is – she needs to PROVE IT with actions. She needs to work hard to prove she’s more than just wiglets and expensive/badly tailored clothes. And i really struggle to buy the ‘at the heart of a great many conversations behind palace gates’ narrative – by all accounts (read #poorjason and his leaks) she spends most of her time at home working out, drawing in the garden and packing nuts into bags for ‘gifts’.

    For what its worth she will never step out of Normal Bill’s shadow – she likes it there.

    • Emily says:

      I also think that he likes her there.

    • ncboudicca says:

      Normal Bill doesn’t even cast a long shadow for her to stand in. That’s why she has to stay so thin, so she can fit inside it.

    • CrystalBall says:

      Betti – you’ve put it in a nutshell (I just love your summary!): she spends all her time at home, working out, drawing in the garden and packing nuts into gift bags (poor staff – just imagine getting a little bag of nuts in appreciation of your tireless work and long hours). My retired mother does more in her day than this young, fit and strong woman. Funny that Kate is doing the sort of things that many OAPs do to fill the time!
      Mother Theresa never needed a publicist to tell the world how kind she was; Einstein didn’t need a PR man to let the world know he was intelligent. I smell a big fat royal rat here. And it stinks – big time.

  6. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    Hmm. It might not bode well that I burst out laughing when I read that headline. They need to dial it back a little before it can be believable.

  7. Seraphina says:

    I agree that her lack of speech making comes from laziness. People have speech impediments and they still work hard to be able to speak publicly. If she really wanted to she would. She doesn’t lack determination. We saw how long she waited for PW.

    And as far as Jason, I think his next job should be writing fiction. He has plenty of practice with Wlls and Kate.

  8. Goats on the Roof says:

    So they’re on vacation, I take it. We always seem to get this sort of article when they are holidaying. They’re intelligent, they work hard, they’re energized…and as soon as they come back from Mustique they’ll ramp up their schedules and prove it! Give me a break.

  9. Beatrice says:

    Always nice to start Monday off with a big laugh! Poor Jason!

    • Citresse says:

      If someone is intelligent, well briefed, prepared, has a voice etc, aka cut out for the job, then we wouldn’t require such articles five years (today) after the engagement of Will and Kate announced, because it would be a well known fact by now.

    • PunkyMomma says:

      Yes, I needed a laugh this morning.

  10. HollyG says:

    I truly sympathize with her if she’s terrified of public speaking, especially since the only way to get through it is to keep doing it, accept that you will occasionally mess up, and finish anyway. However, there are a number of other ways to make your “voice” heard….interviews, articles, and pre recordings.

    • Green Girl says:

      IKR? She could have a fantastic presence with her own social media pages and so on if that’s the case, if she truly is afraid of speeches. There are so many ways she can work around this problem, especially as she likely can get access to some of the best help there is. This doesn’t have to be an obstacle!

  11. Mrs Darcy says:

    Waaat! A Kaity propoganda (K-Ropoganda ?) article *without* bashing Harry… progress indeed.
    And LOL @ Waity being a “newer” member of th firm.. she stuck like glue for over 10 years (see how they are stil putting out “7″ year courtship figure instead of her real stalking years), is over 30 years old and acts like a clueless teenager- probaby because thats what she is, mentally!

  12. Sixer says:

    I am highly intelligent, well-briefed and do my research.*

    This is why I know the Express to be talking stuff and nonsense.

    *Arguably. But at least I could argue it with a straight face. Unlike SOME with fantasist PR departments. (Catty old boot, ain’t I?)

    • notasugarhere says:

      Come sit by me.

    • LAK says:

      i’ll sit by you two.

      We can tick off the journalists invited to gaze at the hidden ones by the *sugary articles they’ve written since that event.

      Tom Sykes
      Camilla Tominey
      Amanda Platell
      Richard Palmer

      *yet the articles are contrary. they are simply pointing out their shortcomings under the guise of praising them.

      • Sixer says:

        It’s just embarrassing at this point, isn’t it?!

        But we three will make a good haggle of it!

      • Cricket says:

        I think the three of you would hit back with such an effective, eloquent and solid take down it would make the take down of Ronda Rousey look amateur :) I wouldn’t mess with you ladies!

        And Sixer’s first comment gave me a flash back to An old SNL skit where the guy would sit in front of the mirror and repeat “I’M GOOD ENOUGH, I’M SMART ENOUGH, AND DOGGONE IT, PEOPLE LIKE ME!”
        Is this how Kate is practicing her comeback?

    • vava says:

      May I join you?

  13. Sea Dragon says:

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

  14. Eleonor says:

    Are we talking about a dog ???

  15. Giddy says:

    This sadly reminds me of Fredo’s quotes from the Godfather: “I can handle things! I’m smart! Not like everybody says, like dumb. I’m smart and I want respect!”

    Poor Kate. She’s smart and she wants respect! Try earning it.

    • Ankhel says:

      Gold star for that quote, Giddy! Kate is about as pitiful a member of her “firm” as Fredo was of his. Maybe she could be sent to manage a hotel in Blackpool?

  16. Talie says:

    I just think her main issue is that she’s a dilettante. She hasn’t found purpose in the way Diana had. Really, Harry seems to be the only one who has found a lane with veterans. William is very adrift as well.

    • Mrs Darcy says:

      Her purpose was to snag william..which she did, as for any other goals…look at her siblings..none have any self sufficient careers and despite all being 30+ live off their dad/mom (or uncle?) ‘s money. Even Pippa’s london flat is bought by her parents. So until Pippa finds her version of william she will be the next waity.

      William clearly lacks any will to work and is clearly not smart at all..remember he wanted to drop from Uni as he found his course daunting!! He was born to the role and yet shows no grooming, no will to take responsibility, lucky for him Waity gets all the bashing despite not being born to it. One wonders if Diana was around, the middletons would never have been on the scene and Willy would have been brought to task by his other at least.

      (apologies for any typos- tying from mobile)

      • LAK says:

        What’s funny is that he thinks he is clever.

        Clever or not, he shows no curiosity of any sort and he shares that with Kate. If he had any curiosity, it may have led him to unexpected areas and he wouldn’t be so bored with his life.

      • Christin says:

        What amazes me is that they have resources readily available to prepare them in every way.

        For example, I don’t believe for a minute that Kate researches and makes notes on issues other than remodeling or other superficial things.

        And on a superficial note, she looks like a 1970s Wella Balsam shampoo ad.

  17. The Original Mia says:

    Well, I laughed. A lot. Doubt that was Jason’s intention. But he made a funny.

    • zinjojo says:

      I laughed too. Poor Jason’s efforts are so obvious it’s painful. I love watching his PR strategy unfold — each new tactic lands with a thud.

      And I totally think they’re on vacation right now — Mustique squeezed in between scheduled events.

  18. Citresse says:

    Yeah, HM cracked the whip on these two. You can see the pattern beginning when Will and Kate left Amner for more time spent at KP. Problem is- they keep running back to Anmer. They’re both rather introverted and work shy, so in that regard they enable each other to return to the quiet countryside where they can hide.
    And now we see Harry taking a much more active role. Someone is plotting some kind of future shared throne involving Harry although it cannot ever be formalized of course. But the advisers know Harry is key.

  19. Anna says:

    “A well-placed source said…”


  20. LAK says:

    Et tu Camilla Tominey!!!

    It’s amazing what gazing at the hidden ones will do.

    Here is another previously ascerbic *journalist telling us how great Kate is.

    *this is the same journalist, usually a lone voice, who repeatedly points out how boorish William is and how fake Kate is. She’s said often that Kate has a put on fake accent, as if we couldn’t hear it, and a fake voice and mannerisms for the public – what she refers to as ‘the duchess of Cambridge’ persona or ‘Catherine’ vs Kate Middleton/Kate’

    • Betti says:

      Wonder when we will see the hidden ones and if they will be able to work the same magic on the plebs as they did for the press.

      From what we’ve seen of the ‘real’ Kate over the years she’s a vapid, silly girl who cares for nothing but her appearance and keeping Willy interested in her so i can believe she has created a ‘public’ persona to hide behind. A persona that again is obvious with the OT facial expressions and the ‘serious and engaged’ face that she has recently been sporting at those charity events and the concentrated effort she made to stay in the moment for the duration of the Chinese state banquet (i watched the videos and you could see her forcing herself not to zone out like she usually does at events).

    • Citresse says:

      Charles’ squeeze Camilla aka Cowmilla, made this weird face and noise as she was about to depart from AUS. She got to the top of the airstairs and Charles was beside her, noted the strange face and noise from Camilla and appeared to make a face himself. I caught the video and wondered what was all that about?

      • FLORC says:

        Yes. Let’s make this about how we should hate someone who does their job for very petty reasons of faces made in a fraction of time. That’s reasonable, right?

        Oh.. This is about the Cambridge PR nonsense? Not irrational jabs at someone fulfilling their role we might hold a couple decade grudge against? Carry on. I’ll have several seats ;)

      • Citresse says:

        Florc, I was wondering if perhaps one of Turnbull’s aides (anti-monarchist) said something negative to them just before their departure.

      • FLORC says:

        My response to you isn’t sticking so i’ll make this short.
        aka cowmilla was hardly necessary. It only served as a cheap namecalling tactic and to outright detract from any other statement you may have made. A jab at Camilla felt like the heart of the comment.

    • Emily says:

      That being said, even in this article she managed to throw in some subtle shade about Kate’s accent.

  21. realitycheck says:

    Hahaha yea sure. Actions speak louder than words.

  22. katie says:

    Me thinks they do protest too much.

  23. lexx says:

    Leave kate alone. She worked really hard for seven years to convince a man to marry her so she wouldn’t have to work. Like all she wants to do is wear pretty dresses, go to fancy parties, and eat fancy food. Let her live.

  24. Dena says:

    Let us fill in some blanks, complete a few sentences, say what hasn’t and won’t be said publicly in this latest & greatest PR patchwork of disaster. My commentary is set apart by dot leaders. Here we go:

    a future modern Queen . . . like Letizia of Spain

    as a new member of the Royal Family she has found it difficult to come to the fore. . . because they’ve been holding her back & because the field is so crowded. Yeah. Right.

    to take her own charity work to “the next level”
    . . . by selling Amner Organic jams and jellies

    That has sometimes unfairly led to suggestions that she doesn’t have much to say . . . while, in truth, it’s much more fair to say that she doesn’t have anything to say that is coherent, moderately informed or relevant.

    she really is highly intelligent, well-briefed and does her research, including reading scientific papers . . . in her deepest fantasies when she allows herself a moment to dream about who she might have been had she not spent over a decade of her life using her potential to hook and keep William.

    and is at the heart of a great many conversations behind palace gates . . . because the dumb-asses keep insisting that attending sporting events and concerts are work and palace officials, in their offices, in the hallways, and on the phone with Jason (all done behind palace gates, of course) insist that attendance at those events aren’t work

    the Duchess has always read up but now she feels it is time to speak up too. . . We’re all waiting with bated breath

    We have already seen her leading the conversation about children’s mental health . . . Ummm, actually, we haven’t.

    This is all coming from the Duchess’ . . . ass?

    household staff have become increasingly frustrated by the media focus on Kate’s clothes . . . particularly when her stylist’s and hair-dresser’s professional abilities are called into question when Kate’s wiglet is clearly visible or when she appears looking like a sexed-up lace doily

    and occasional off-the-cuff remarks, instead of the real substance of what she is saying . . . stop using snark and sarcasm when speaking to the maids and butlers. Look at them with you speak with them. Not thru or around them. It’s hard to stay focused and not get distracted by the hyena grin, hair tossing, faux accent & that twisted jaw thing she does. It’s too much to take in all at once.

    She has been portrayed as a passive figure and was dubbed “Waity Katy” before becoming engaged to William in 2010 following a seven-year courtship . . . when there was absolutely passive about her pursuit, her tactics & determination to hold on to William. Get it right b*tches!!!

    he “knows her own mind” and has a fiercely competitive streak . . . damn right. See Exhibits A, B, C, D & E. That would be: Big Blue, William, George, Charlotte, and Amner Hall. So, once again, back the f*ck up off me b*tches.

    and genuinely interested in what others have to say. . . cause how else will she know what she’s supposed to do?

    She knows her own mind . . . what William wants

    and can give as good as she gets . . . please, keep it clean; we don’t want to know about their sex life😕.

    • LAK says:


      And yet so true.

    • Betti says:

      Hahaha – also their ‘courtship’ was actually 10 years not 7 or was their early relationship at Uni casual or her stalking prep time.

      • Dena says:

        I meant to write there was nothing passive about the pursuit. I’m sure William worked her nerves and then she had to be on guard against other willing women and then open & available to him.

        It’s just too easy to poke holes in their stories.

        Weren’t those two scheduled to be in the Bahamas this week or sometime in November? Didn’t we talk about that here?

        It’s just hard to describe these two: grifters, slackers, artful dodgers. It’s like they don’t even know they aren’t smart enough to fool people but somehow think they are.

    • India Andrews says:

      You put a smile on my face. Well done.

  25. Maia says:

    First, I don’t get this PR. Why not have her just go out and make a ton of insightful speeches, put out well thought out statements and basically show her face every day of the week for 2 months. If she did that people would automatically sit up and take notice. I think that would have gotten the message across far more effectively than putting out this statement which actually draws attention to the fact that she is regarded as a lightweight. Why are they making a statement on this rather than making her get up and do things? Words can be empty.. Do they really think that the public is so stupid that all it takes to mollify us is some statement? Or was it Camilla T’s way of calling attention to the real Kate while maintaining a respectful facade?
    Second, the Middletons are chock full of their own kool aid. They live in their own bubble and constantly tell each other how wonderful they are. They thought that the wedding of the century was going to be a family affair – that in itself should tell you how brilliantly insulated and dareIsay dimwitted they all are. I am convinced of that. Pippa actually thought that she was a “writer”. She actually thought and BELIEVED that she had the talent and experience to write and promote a cookbook, when, it turns out, she has as much aptitude for writing and cooking as a 10 year old who is let loose in the kitchen once a week to assemble a meal for the family. In a similar vein, James actually thinks that he is the SH*** when he has a pretty far-fetched business idea. Just listen to his interviews. His head is so far up his bottom that it’s lost. Judging from how brilliant this family thinks they are, and how mediocre and talentless they are in reality, I am inclined to think that Kate thinks that she is smart, she thinks she is thoughtful, she thinks that she contributes to talks, she thinks that she understands peer-reviewed papers, but is actually as much of an airhead as we think she is. Unless she can actually give heavyweight speeches and speak in a normal manner that you would expect from a 34 year old and from someone who spends more than 10 minutes a day in the car thinking about an issue, I will continue to think of her as a sophomorish teenager who is focussed on hair, beauty and perfecting her posh accent. And telling the world she is intelligent.

    • LAK says:

      Let’s just call this the annual comedy article from her people.

      Seriously, every year since she wed there has been a ‘Kate is clever, serious about working on serious issues and she’s dazzling behind the scenes, we can’t wait for everyone to see her in action because she’s very keen to get started’.

      These articles started at the engagement when we had the ‘cleverest royal with a university degree’, ‘most prepared royal bride ever’, ‘princess lessons on everything from civics to diplomacy to etiquette’,'she’s so keen to work she’s hit th ground running’.

      And so on and so forth.

      Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, three, four, infinity times, shame on you.

    • bluhare says:

      I totally agree, Maia!!

    • zinjojo says:

      This PR is just ridiculous, isn’t it? This entire campaign that started with the press visit with the kids is as weightless as a tissue and so clunky and obvious in its execution.

      And you’re right Maia — if she worked consistently for a couple of months and managed to deliver something of substance, people’s opinions would change. But right now, our opinions are based on Kate’s actions, which run contrary to this PR. It’s a dissonance that the PR will not win no matter how hard Poor Jason tries to assert that Kate is hard-working, intelligent and deeply involved with her charities.

      And I also agree about the MIddletons — what the hell happened in that family that none of the kids thought they had to actually work and have a career when they grew up?

      • Feeshalori says:

        With PR like this, who needs enemies? Maybe Poor Jason is accepting bribes to make Kate look bad. Desperate times call for desperate measures, it seems. If I were Kate, I’d be absolutely mortified that the world needs convincing that I was intelligent and the more her camp protests that she is, the more it leaves doubt that she is not. Coupled with a lazy, reluctant, work-shy attitude, it leaves a lot to be desired about this woman.

        And this story made me LOL, which is exactly what I needed on a miserable Monday.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Correction: The more it leaves doubt that she is (intelligent). Sheesh, Mondays!

    • daisy says:

      Your post is so well put
      completely agree with all your points
      They will always be freeloaders and she will always be a doll arm candy
      her manic expressions never cease to amaze us
      and to always have a never ending supply of new designer dresses and shoes and bags in these austere times just shows how they are completely clueless

  26. FLORC says:

    Prove it. Show commitment. Otherwise this is only poor Jason saying words to bridge the gap of the PR imagevs what we see and hear. She appears as a polar opposite of what her image is said to be. Sack up.

    • Jaded says:

      Can I tell you how much I love the expression “sack up”!

    • The Original Mia says:


      • Feeshalori says:

        The proof of the pudding is in the making, actions speak louder than words and put your money where your mouth is. Maybe Kate should needlepoint these cliches on her throw pillows as a reminder that all the PR BS won’t redeem her lazy image until she gets out and starts putting some of that grit and determination that she’s supposed to have into steady work commitments.

    • ArtHistorian says:

      “Words are wind”!

      PR spin only gets you so far. If she doesn’t start to make good on all these promises, then her PR is nothing but hot air.

      • FLORC says:

        “Words are wind” Never heard that one before, but it’s added in now!

        LAK points out above this message has been sold to us so many times since the engagement interview and it’s hurting more than helping.

        No one expects her to be a genius. Just to give half a damn. That the PR is still needed at this point to show a person who at the very least gives half a damn is more damaging.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        It is a quote from George RR Martin’s series that Game of Thrones is based on. It is a great expression though the characters tend to use it too much.

        The problem is that the PR is in complete contradiction her actions. That dissonance is getting stronger and stronger because her underwhelming performance no longer can be excused with the argument that she is “new” to the job. I find the coverage interesting because the narrative that articles like this spin subtly highlights that she’s faltering, especially since they seem to be designed to address an unspoken criticism. If she was intelligent, well-briefed and passionate about her causes then the public wouldn’t need to be told by unnamed sources. They’d know from her actions.

        The problem I have with the Cambridge’s PR is the fact that their actions doesn’t support the narrative that their PR spins. If that dissonance this creates become much stronger then they (and by extension perhaps also the monarchy) may be in hot water. It seems to me that they rely on the PR flack doing some spinning when they get negative publicity. However, spin can only do so much – in the end, the image they want toput forth will have to be supported by their actions. As loing as they don’t realize this (or don’t care) their PR will be as substantial as a balloon-full of hot air.

      • FLORC says:

        I’ll forever give the side eye to anyone announcing so heavily what we should all see clear as day if true.
        Happy marriages when cheating sccandals are out. Christians when unchristian lie behavior leaks out. That type of stuff. If your day to day doesn’t show it and you go out of your way to try and convince the public it’s true there’s something not right.

        Their PR is such a nightmare.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Yep! Word and action do have to match – and I guess that their PR is a nightmare because they don’t cooperate much with it. It appears like they think that some fast (and clever) spinning will solve their problems without them actually making an effort to match all these so far unfounded statements. That kind of PR doesn’t really work as a longterm strategy, and they need one because their “job” is a life-long one.

      • FLORC says:

        There’s such a high level of goodwill and forgiveness the Cambridges can ride it’s all the more amazing that the bare minimum expected is too much.
        Excuses and stories of why we see a lack of action still must happen. And for a couple that when every minor interaction with a duty brings several weeks with of coverage it’s still very rare.

        The PR digs them a major hole. I’m in awe of this strategy as it’s not viable long term.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        “The PR digs them a major hole. I’m in awe of this strategy as it’s not viable long term.”

        That’s what astonishes me too. However, it also leads me to conclude that the problem is the Cambridges themselves because their PR guy certainly has a very good reputation and I understand that he has had very good results with previous clients. It seems like he’s not given much to work with and he can only do so much before the PR narrative becomes ridiculous, especially if the clients won’t cooperate – and I have a feeling that Will is a particularly difficult client: stubborn, hotheaded and not very bright.

        Yesterday Kate finally proved she wasn’t mute when she spoke in public. However, she did a very short introduction that didn’t extend beyond generalized platitudes – and the delivery wasn’t good either. So the claim that she will make substantial speeches was very much her PR overselling her. Its claims introduced certain expectations that she failed to live up to at this event. When her PR oversell her abilities then she is being set up to fail, which can’t be very encouraging for her to better herself.

  27. Bunnybear says:

    I just can’t get over how bad her hair is. It looks like it weighs 20 lbs. Why is she so stuck on this style?

    • Citresse says:

      Because she’s a scaredy cat!

    • Betti says:

      Because Willy likes her hair this way – she styles her hair and dresses to please him (and get press attention). Willy apparently likes her hair long and down.

      Girl needs some layers as not everyone can get away with wearing long hair that’s all the same length.

      • Citresse says:

        Perhaps Charles preferred Diana’s hair long? Diana had a mind of her own. If Kate is controlled to such an extent by William then no amount of PR can get us to take her seriously.

    • Cricket says:

      Because Dynasty is her favorite TV show.

  28. Another Anna says:

    William, Kate, and even Harry a bit are why (despite the fact that I am not a citizen of the UK and therefore my opinion does not matter) I am a small-r republican. QEII, I get it. Even Charles, I get it. These lazy moochers and Harry, who I will always hate for that Nazi costume debacle? I’d be voting to end the monarchy every chance I got.

    • Hudson Girl says:

      A guy I went to university with was a Varsity rower and defended Harry. He said that when they win a race they take the other team’s shirt and put them on. It’s a way of mocking the loser and establishing dominance. He felt that there was nothing wrong with a 20 year old guy at a military training school mocking a Nazi by wearing the uniform. He actually seemed to support it? He thought it only a positive if the terrors of the Nazi regime remained in the forefront of society’s mind.
      It’s so interesting to me how differently two people can see the same issue.

      • Another Anna says:

        My grandmother lost all of her brothers and sisters to the Nazis. And Britain was a goner in WWII without the intervention of the rest of the Allied powers, so I don’t know who Harry might think they dominated. And then, on top of that, considering the former King Edward’s open support of the Nazis, the BRF gets no leeway from ms on this one.

        Certainly he’s gotten older since then and I hope he’s grown, but I’ll never view him as cozily as many do.

    • Deedee says:

      I’ve read that William talked Harry into the Nazi costume or knew he was wearing it and didn’t protest. The theme of the costume party was “colonials and natives” to begin with.

      • FLORC says:

        A part that gets lost in this story is what William went dressed as. A very mocking version of a native. Harry was deflection.

        And let me jus add. Harry agreed to the Nazi costume. William heckled and Harry drank, but he wore it. And to his credit took admission of his poor choice and changed into a much better person.

        It’s also worth noting every time you see or hear of a mistake Harry made we should be looking to William as he’s slipped up and the Spare being the worse choice must be pulled out.

      • India Andrews says:

        I’ve heard what you two ladies are saying before. I agree with you.

        I wish a tumblr called Princess Diana’s Place (Palace?) still was up and running. That blogger had a lot of video of William giving Harry subtle slams. The blogger stopped after Scotland chose to stay in the UK. She felt that even when she criticized the royals that she was continuing to feed a fascination with them.

      • India Andrews says:

        I love that Harry learns from his mistakes and doesn’t complain.

  29. Sixer says:

    Well, guys, if they were on holiday, they’ve had to come back sharpish.

    William is attending the England v France friendly footie match – presumably in solidarity for the awfulness in Paris.

  30. Mara says:

    The thing is she got into St Andrews, I would have loved to have gone to St Andrews.

    So either she does have some brains or St Andrews views applications from public school girls a little differently than they do state school girls.

    • LAK says:

      Public schools hot house their student body to go to russell group universities. First priority is to get as many o them into oxbridge and if that isn’t possible, funnel them to the rest of russell group.

      In that sense, public school kids at top universities aren’t always there because they are intelligent. They are there because they were funnelled there in a public school version of tiger mum.

      It’s more impressive when state school kids make it because *they* really had to prove their mettle AND are probably, properly clever by th usual standards of such measurements.

      • Sixer says:

        Yes to LAK. Plus, state school kids who get into Oxbridge and Russell Group unis are more likely to get a first – because they had to be cleverer to get there!

      • Reece says:

        Russell Group? Is that a Britishism or are your colleges corporate (as they all too often are in the US)?

        ETA: Nevermind I googled it. It looks corporate

      • Sixer says:

        Not corporate, Reece, just an academic association, albeit with a lot of influence.

        Russell Group universities represent the second tier of UK universities. You have Oxbridge > Russell Group > redbricks > ex-polytechnics.

        It’s a bit more complicated than that, but that’s basically the prestige hierarchy in British higher education. (Redbricks are longstanding universities, while polytechnics used to be higher ed institutions with more of a vocational emphasis but were rebranded as universities a while back).

      • LAK says:

        Sixer: Some of my younger relations started out in state schools before switching to public and i was generally shocked to find out how little was the effort made to get the state kids into Oxbridge or Russell group by their schools. on the flipside, I became aware of the hot housing aspect of public schools to the same route.

        Looking back at my own school days, i came to realised how much it was expected and school curriculum tweaked/curated so that the only outcome was Oxbridge or Russell group.

        The UCAS form was to be used for Oxbridge or Russell group only, no matter your actual strengths or merits or indeed those of other universities. Any other option was unthinkable and if you failed to get in, better to go to a crammer and re-apply the following year than to go anywhere else.

      • Sixer says:

        Same here, LAK. At my public school, the sixth form had 3 streams per year. Top one was for those of us going to Oxbridge (note there was no doubt about that) and the other two were for Russell Group candidates. Like you say, any other option was utterly unthinkable. And if you weren’t that bright, well, they just employed their considerable resources to make it look as though you were.

        During my two GCSE years, I had felt increasingly suffocated by it and eventually rebelled and persuaded my parents I should do my A levels at a local state college. I was really happy there and, even though I ended up at Russell Group UCL anyway, it was MY CHOICE, you know?

        Now I’m all growed up, and a governor of a local state school, I do think they make better efforts than they used to. We run a mentoring scheme for A level students with high ability, whatever their background. Hothousing does work. But I think it should only be applied when the kids actually want it.

      • Reece says:

        Oh I get it. Thanks Sixer.
        We have a similar hierarchy here with the Ivy League schools>private schools>state schools. Within those it’s more complicated too.
        Although, imo, an Ivy League isn’t necessarily better than a state. The state school I graduated from can put down the ILs all day but it doesn’t have the name recognition.

      • LAK says:

        i really wasn’t aware of the indoctrination. it simply was. does that make sense? However, i started my schooling in Africa were there was no discussion that you wouldn’t go to Oxbridge, nevermind Russell group or any other university. And if you went to America you were supposed to go to Ivy League and nowhere else. The scholarship programmes were very heavily mined to ensure you could attend.

        The school I attended is still known to be one for the brightest kids, but it was/is very competitive and stressful. You were demoted or promoted each term within your year with the bottom 3 students per year expelled. don’t come back. ever.

        by contrast when i arrived in England, schooling was a doodle and i went to my first choice, London, Queen Mary

        Although, inexplicably, my African school used to make us go to 6am Scottish reeling dance classes. You should see people’s faces when i take charge of the reeling at Scottish dances!!! it makes me laugh. every time.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        This is an interesting discussion for me since I come from a very small country with no private universities so whatever hierarchy there is is ausually based on the age of the insitution. However, there are other differences like one of the newer universities takes a much more collaborative approach to student work than the old Copenhagen University – so I haven’t really experienced a notion that Copenhagen University may be more prestigious than RUC or any other Danish university (unless you study Physics, then Copenhagen is prestigious). For info, there are about 5-6 universities in the DK.

        In some respects these academic hierarchies are somewhat misleading – at least within my field of art history. I did my MA at the University of Leeds because I wanted to study with a particular world-renowned professor. When it comes to art history in British universities, places like St. Andrews and Cambridge/Oxford are, IMO, not that attractive. Most of the innovative research comes out of smaller universities in Leeds, Bristol, York and Newcastle. In Britain, the most prestigious (though not necessarily cutting-edge) place to study art history is the Courtauld Institute in London.

      • Sixer says:

        Reece – exactly. Some lower prestige institutions have a lot to offer.

        LAK – you made me laugh! In my first year at uni, when you actually get uni accommodation, the society of Morris dancers (yes, there was one!) would practise right outside my window at silly o’clock in the morning. I’ve hated Morris dancing ever since. The wake-you-up-at-an-unholy-hour gits!

        I think I was more aware of the indoctrination because I was a working class scholarship kid. My leftie parents had hummed and haaed about sending me even when I got the scholarship, which is why they didn’t put up much of a fight when I eventually rebelled.

        Even now though, when I tell the story, people assume that I left because I was the scholarship kid and the fish out of water. But it really, really wasn’t like that. There were no second class citizens at my school – not in the eyes of teachers or pupils. They certainly inculcated us with the idea that we were special snowflakes but not because of birthright – because of us being pupils at our special snowflake school. I just felt totally suffocated by the lack of choice. Oxbridge/Russell Group or – well, there wasn’t an or. The or was a parallel universe or a figment of the imagination!

      • Pondering thoughts says:

        @ LAK

        If you describe that your school’s curriculum was tweaked to make pupils go into Oxbridge / Russel group universities then I am afraid you either got taught “the right knowledge” or you simply got taught “the right habitus” which means your academic ascend isn’t based on merits.
        “The right knowledge” simply doesn’t exist as there is either knowledge or lack thereof.


        Amusing to hears stories of alleged first class graduates from first class universities and then you can shred their stories without effort.

      • MinnFinn says:

        Why is the Britisher term “public” used for schools that charge tuition (and board for boarders) for 6-18 year olds?

        And also, please tell me if I’m wrong. The Britisher versus American terms for under 18 education is: public=private (schools that charge tuition) and state=public (schools that are free to residents).

      • LAK says:

        Arthistorian: the British universities/colleges that you have mentioned are Russell group.

        Here is a list of all the Russell group universities/colleges:


        More from wikigoogle:


        Courtauld Institute is part of the University of London which has a Russell group ranking as a whole in the same way that Oxford or Cambridge ranking is taken to mean all the colleges under their umbrella respectively.

        Here is a complete list of the University of London colleges.


        University of London is unique because 5 of it’s colleges broke away in the past 15yrs to become stand alone universities and subsequently gained their own ranking in the Russell group namely, Kings, UCL, Imperial, LSE and Queen Mary. I always forget that they are independent now rather than London University colleges.

        Pondering thoughts: If you had taken the time to read entire thread, you’d have read my initial comment saying the same thing.

      • Sixer says:

        ArtHistorian – sorry, I missed your post – in moderation? But what LAK said. Although, as I said to Reece, there are plenty of unis lower down on the prestige pecking order which offer country-leading courses in particular areas. One that springs to mind is International Relations at Aberystwyth.

        Pondering – I concur with LAK that you’ve missed her point. LAK and I are both highly aware of the effective way UK public schools impart the “right knowledge” to their pupils and how the “right knowledge” isn’t necessarily the only or the best knowledge. That’s what we were both saying!

        MinnFinn – because the “public” schools have an ancient history that pre-dates universal education. They were originally set up even before Tudor times to educate a merchant/legal/professional intelligentsia from non-aristocratic families, hence they were “public” schools even though only a small number of the public attended. The aristos were all educated “privately” then – ie at home by individual tutors. Just old ways of living and explaining things. And because we’re all about the history here, the terms still persist. Public UK = private US. State UK = public US.

      • LAK says:

        Sixer: the special snowflake aspect of public school is everywhere. That’s what annoys everyone else.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I wasn’t even aware of the Russell group until this discussion. I guess that comes of being an outsider when it comes to the British education system. I think that the choice of university may very well be guided by prestige when it comes to the undergraduate level since people really don’t know the chosen field well yet. However, at graduate and post-graduate level you really go where the researchers/professors are great and/or places that focuses on your chosen specialty.

        I always find it interesting how history sometimes influence classifications that appear somewhat odd in a modern context – like the major right-wing/liberalist party in Denmark is actually called the Left (because originally they sat to the left in parlimentary hall (they were also originally the farmer’s party – now they pander to big business). There was a party called the Right, but they eventually sort of morphed into the Conservatives (it used to be the party of the aristocrats). So it is always fun to explain to foreigners that no, Left is actually a right-wing party. The Radical Left is a centrist party and Liberal Alliance is a hardcore liberalist party that takes its inspiration from the US neo-cons.

      • kaiko says:

        LAK, Sixer—-Let me just say, I am really enjoying reading this thread! My inner frontier firebrand is frothing at the mouth cause I’m still just a typical naive ‘merican kid and it sounds extremely unfair and unneccesarily snobbish …but still what you are saying makes sense, especially when we see the brain trust that is KM.
        It sounds strangely similar to education in the upper echelons of the US east coast, especially within the affluent Baltimore/DC area, and even more so in the Brahmin-esque circles of New England. Coincidence? ;)

      • FLORC says:

        Same. Enjoying this education in education.

      • Sixer says:


        Quite! These schools are highly elitist. But, counter-intuitively, they don’t think they are. They think they teach egalitarian/meritocratic values (and they do, in the sense that they don’t discriminate by gender or race or or or). They believe that their pupils succeed because they are so good at teaching self-belief and fostering self-esteem. When challenged on this, when it’s suggested that they are imparting entitlement, not self-confidence, they get very upset. And so do the alumni – cf the defensive reactions of the Eton Mafia actors when asked about background. They think they are being posh-bashed.

        Also, remember that we are talking about very small numbers of kids – only 5-7% of UK kids are educated privately. And of those, less than half go to the elite set of schools. Yet 70% of high court judges, more than 50% of MPs, etc etc etc, are drawn from this tiny subset of kids. Aside from the individual unfairness, I think this has to be bad for the country as a whole. You don’t want your positions of influence dominated by such a shallow gene pool, do you? I imagine it is similar in the US? There are elite private schools funnelling kids to Ivy League and then on to the corridors of power and media influence?

        While the rigid class structures of the UK of the past have largely disappeared, we still have that tiny, self-perpetuating elite at the very top.

      • ArtHistorian says:


        I very much agree with this. I find it is very damaging to a country if especially the political elite comes from such a small social and educational pool.

        We’re starting to get the same problem in Denmark because so many politicians today go into politics straight out of uni – quite a few of the younger, high-ranking ones (across the political spectrum) have never held an actual real life job outside of the political establishment, most of them have never experienced hardship like unemployment, etc. I find that very worrying because they actually make the laws – and when they fx continually bash the unemployed as if unemployment is entirely an individual problem (instead of a larger structual problem defined by the vicissitudes of economy and how the employment market is structured), then my belief in them resides in a very small space. When they ask the populace to do what they themselves won’t, then how can we believe that they act for the best of the nation. Ex. they just raised the retirement age to 68 for the populace at large, yet they’ve kept their own retirement age to 60. I also find it problematic that politicians can become millionaires just by being politicians because they set their own pay and their own pension.

        It is a shame that the old-school social-democratic tradition in politics in Denmark is dying out because in the past we had politicians with real life experience, many with a lower middle-class or working-class background. Social diversity helps keep the political landscape healthy, IMO, and benefits the average citizen more than the political player.¨

    • Betti says:

      As others in this thread have stated – if you go to the right school and have money then you are a shoo in for Tier 1 Universities like St Andrews regardless of your intellectual ability.

      Nothing will ever persuade me that she’s intelligent – she has proved otherwise. Best she can do is prove to be she’s informed on what she’s talking about.

  31. Jib says:

    She’s going to do “more” speeches? More than none? She never speaks. So much illogic in here. She’s well-versed? How do we

  32. Reece says:

    5 words, that I will capitalize for emphasis:


  33. anne_000 says:

    Why did it take Duchess Einstein all these years to figure out that she can get help for public speaking issues? Maybe she would have found out about it earlier if it had been mentioned at least once in all the scientific papers she reads…

    Good for her PR team for this new angle. Yes, don’t look at her hair that she keeps adding on pounds of. Don’t look at the dresses she spends thousands of pounds on. Don’t notice anything she’s done or said all these years. Just focus on all that hidden brain power she has that the public so wrongly hasn’t been able to pick up on telepathically all these years.

    Yeah, I guess public speaking can be daunting if you don’t practice it much. Same goes with most everything. Ma and Pa Middleton never taught her that?

    Is the article saying that Kate is the smartest one out of all the Middleton siblings? Because one can’t say much for Pippa and James. They don’t spend any time reading scientific papers? Just Kate? Because she’s like the Wiz Kid of the Middleton family, right? Ms. Science.

    If she’s that good with scientific subjects, then why isn’t she promoting science education for young children? Or are her scientific readings mostly about mental health of children?

  34. TessD says:

    “including reading scientific papers” – oy vey!

    • zinjojo says:

      The most ludicrous part of the whole ridiculous article.

    • India Andrews says:

      I really don’t see Kate slogging through peer reviewed research.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        I can’t see her slogging through an abstract, let alone an entire paper. And she doesn’t need to read “scientific papers” to be able to help her charities more. The whole thing is preposterous!

  35. seesittellsit says:

    Well she was smart enough to hook the matrimonial prize of her generation, wasn’t she, despite having a coal miner as a great-grandfather? I suppose that counts for something.

    • Green Girl says:

      Maybe? I am sure some intelligence was needed, but I’ve heard so many stories about these two over the years that I could change my mind!

    • FLORC says:

      We are not the sum of our distant relatives and their skills.
      I also wouldn’t call William a prize as a husband. If that was so he would have been picked up by those he pursued.

      And whatever happened in the past I feel we should be judgedas we are today. Are you kind today? Or should we think of you as so because you were kind in the past?

      Kate can step up and act as she’s being described. And all the apathy and lazy behavior would melt away with a new image being proven.

      • India Andrews says:

        I wouldn’t call William a prize either.

        Sounds like Kate got him by default. It was time to marry and no one else was waitying.

  36. CarolinaBelle says:

    Interesting. I wasn’t aware that People Magazine is now publishing “scientific” papers!

  37. tabasco says:

    “Come along, children. It’s time for another episode of The Duchess of Cambridge Is Going To Be Like Diana, We Promise.”

    hahahahaaaa!!! omg, that helped Monday along!

  38. MinnFinn says:

    ‘Highly intelligent’ (or educated) is not required for a royal to win the approval of their subjects. Surely Jason knows that the shortest and easiest way to dissuade Kate’s critics is for her to work on a regular basis and to wear flasher-proof clothes. QEII and Anne are proof positive that this strategy works well.

    Given this proven and low-effort path to success, why in the world is Jason working on the ‘she is smart, really she is’ section of his Kate PR plan? Answer: because Kate wants people to think she is smart and it’s as important to her as everyone knowing that the scar on her head IS NOT a clip-in hair piece.

    • India Andrews says:

      I agree. Look at Diana. No one would call her an intellectual in the university sense of that term. She won the “most helpful” award in school that normally is given out to the not so bright in class. Yet, she found a voice and a way to connect with people proving you don’t need to be am ivory tower intellectual princess to do so. Harry seems to have inherited this gift. He barely made it out of Eaton, never attended university, and is finding his voice with veterans.

  39. Lucy says:

    I quite like Kate but the mental image of her browsing JStor is pretty hilarious.

    I wonder if she has any genuine passions. Even a deep and real passionate interest in something fairly superficial, like fashion, would still be a sign of depth and intelligence.

    • FLORC says:

      She likes vacations and SCUBA. Also, keeping her weight down. In all honesty and without trying to have a bias, but only judging from her actions and mild PR, this is what she cares about. If any effort has gone into a charity she patrons past self promotion I would sing a different tune. And this is sad. That an adult cannot show these simple qualities, but instead must have PR statements describe the qualities we see her lacking in.
      There’s a level of contradiction here. If the truth is so easy as it’s written it should be more than easy for the world to make that call. Rather than hearing of these wonders, but never seeing them.

      • maggie says:

        I’m sure she cares about her small children and wants to spend as much time with them as she can. I know I would. Plus people do like holidays too. Don’t you?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Given the time spent on other activities (shopping, hair, personal trainer) much of which can be tracked, she isn’t 24/7 with the kids. And most people WORK 50 weeks a year and take a holiday. They don’t do nothing, then do nothing on a remote exclusive island and call it “a holiday”. These two are always “on holiday” is seems.

      • FLORC says:

        I love holidays. They are breaks from work and are generally loved because they are less frequent than work. It’s well documented Kate holidays far greater than she works. Also documented is how often she’s been away from her children.
        This is not a slam, but a fact. Trainer, shopping, vacations, Wimbledon, Rugby have Kate away from her kids for a full day if not more. And the kids are often seen alone with their Nanny or just without Kate. And again. Not calling her a bad mom or slamming. Just facts.

        Your defense rests on how you would react, but not countering how Kate reacts. I find this to be standard statements where to defend her actions or lack of a new scenario with a false choice must be created.
        False Choice tactics are all about side stepping facts.

    • Calico Cat says:

      Well, she has taken up sketching, the poor overworked dear. Although the only thing she’s drawing is flies.

  40. paddyjr says:

    Why do I have an image of Katie Bucket stamping her feet and saying, “I am smart. Mummy told me so!”?

  41. MinnFinn says:

    Sixer – Your question about graduates from Ivy League schools in politics and the judiciary in the U.S. intrigued me.
    114th Senate – 18% are Ivy League grads
    114th House of Representatves – I couldn’t find stats but the percentage for 2010 was 8%
    43 Presidents – 14% Ivy League
    9 Current U.S. Supreme Court Justices – Law schools are 5 from Harvard, 3 from Yale and 1 from Columbia – Important to Note that Supremes are appointed but local judges are elected.

    Seeking political office straight out of university is rare in the U.S. Elected office at any level is virtually always a 2nd career.


    • ArtHistorian says:

      “Seeking political office straight out of university is rare in the U.S. Elected office at any level is virtually always a 2nd career.”

      That’s quite interesting becuase the trend is completely opposite in Denmark and it has its own attendant problems. We’ve actually had ministers in their late to mid 20s that have never held an actual real life job but have come straight from university.

    • Sixer says:

      Thanks for that, MinnFinn! Most interesting to compare!

      ArtHistorian – we have career politicians too. Straight from uni into a think tank or somesuch and from the think tank to an elected politician’s policy advisor or aide, and from there to elected office themselves. NOT a good idea and there’s a lot of moaning about it.

      • ArtHistorian says:


        I think we see eye to eye on a lot of issues. A democracy has its vulnerabilities and I think some of them have become increasingly visible. I don’t have any solution but you’re still more free living in a democracy than under another type of government. The best we can do is trying to be the best version of ourselves because in the end it is our view on humanity that lies beneath all policy.

        I do see a counter-reaction against this trend. In the recent election a new party called The Alternative got a lot of votes and hence a respectable mandate in Folketinget (Parliament). The really marketed themselves as an alternate voice that rejected the increasingly nasty tone in the political debate. The do seem to have been somewhat effective because the current Liberalist government (that seems set out to destroy everything that has made Denmark such an affluent and successful society) is a minority government so they constantly need to negotiage with the other parties.

        I guess the solution is for people to become more active, to band together so their voice is heard.

      • Sixer says:

        I think we do think alike!

        One plank of this here in the UK would be, as I was saying above, doing something about the funnelling of kids from the elite private schools, through Oxbridge, and into these positions of influence, without any real world experience. Here, it’s not just politics, it’s media (a majority of broadsheet columnists and BBC executives have trodden this route), the arts (see the Eton Mafia stranglehold on acting, and a majority of theatre directors too) and the judiciary.

        Not that public schools are the root of all evil or anything, and not that there aren’t other ways to improve democracy. I’ve nothing against private schooling per se, but I do have reservations if it’s responsible for any part of a narrowing of democratic representation in public spheres of influence.

  42. The Original Mia says:

    Just saw pics of the Lamebridges signing the condolence book at the French Embassy in London. They don’t look tan to me, so they may have been holed up at Anmer.

    • Natalie says:

      I just saw the pictures. She didn’t smile and laugh this time, like in the New Zealand pictures, but looked genuinely serious and chastened. Low bar, but she was appropriate and did fine.

      Her polka dot suit looks like it’s the one from the girlfriend years. This really isn’t an occasion for her to be pushing the Thrifty Kate image, on the other hand it means she avoids a possible repeat of what happened when she wore that bizarre and expensive Alexander McQueen military outfit after the riots.

      • The Original Mia says:

        She acted appropriately and the suit was fine. She looks as if she’s lost even more weight and her slouching was even more pronounced.

      • Olenna says:

        @TOM, I think she’s lost more weight, too. Commenters on the DM article noted the downy hair on her face and mentioned it could be evidence of an eating disorder (anorexia?), which I’ve kinda suspected after she came out seclusion 2-3 months ago.

      • katie says:

        Olenna – It’s called lanugo and I noticed it on Kate too but for quite some time – remember her visit to Canada. Very apparent then. It’s a tell tale sign of the body being in starvation mode.

        Especially with Diana’s history, why are the royals sitting back and ignoring the elephant in the room? She needs help.!

      • Olenna says:

        Thanks, katie. I knew there was a word for the downy hair, but couldn’t think of it. The comments must have caught the attention of the DM moderators or KP PR, because the most glaring photo of the hair has been removed and another one has been retouched. Regardless, people have noticed and it makes you wonder if those close to her haven’t or just won’t say anything about it.