Demi Lovato covers Latina magazine. I really like how they styled her, with a bold dark red lip and rosy eye shadow. Plus Demi has killer brows, she should do brow tutorials. (I’ve been trying to watch those but I don’t have the skill yet to elevate mine to this level. #browgoals.) In the editorial, they put Demi in two different couture gowns with metallic features, either of which would have suited the Met Gala better than the weird Moschino she was wearing. Unlike the photos, the interview is a mixed bag. She does lend her support to Kesha in her fight against Dr. Luke, which she’s done consistently since Kesha went to court. As much of a no brainer that may be to those of us looking in, it’s got to be hard to speak out when you work in that industry. Plus she talks about her support of Hillary Clinton, particularly as it relates to immigration issues. However Demi says some things about Latinos that seem… overly general to put it gently. It’s like she’s trying to relate to the audience but it comes across as a misstep.
On her music career, she “hasn’t peaked yet”
I don’t care about radio hits. When you try hard for that, it doesn’t happen…. I have yet to reach my peak, and also, my voice is better now than it was a year ago. Now I can show people what I can do.On Kesha’s battle against Dr. Luke
I thought it was extremely brave of a pop star in the industry to come out and talk about that. I do believe it’s very f-ed up that he’s not letting her go, aside from all of the other stuff. I think women artists shouldn’t compete—we have to support each other.On her relationship with Wilmer Valderrama
When I dated white guys, it wasn’t as passionate as my relationship with Wilmer. Maybe that’s just Wilmer. But I do believe that Latin people are just more expressive, more passionate with their emotions. He’s very manly, and he can be stubborn like Latino men can, but he’s protective and he cares so much and loves so hard. I’ve been blessed enough to have him in my life, and not just as my man, but also my best friend.Her diet plan
I’ve actually been on a meal plan for almost two years now, because in my recovery I have to surrender control over food to somebody else so I can just focus on my mental state. I’ve been my heaviest in my relationship with Wilmer and also been my thinnest. He’s seen it all and loves me equally, and it gives me confidence to know that.She supports Hillary
The reason ‘I’m with her’ is because out of everybody running, she is the most qualified and she will get shit done. I can hopefully help open people’s eyes to how much racism is affecting our country and now infiltrating it in a sense where we might have an incredibly racist Republican candidate. It’s terrifying to think that families can be, and sometimes are, separated on a daily basis.
Demi said a lot of great things here, and she even talked about her advocacy for access to mental health care, and removing the stigma surrounding that. My initial response to hearing her deep thoughts on Latino men is to think she’s stupid and making dumb generalizations, but she’s not dumb. As Kaiser put it to me, Demi is “stupid like a parched fox.” So maybe Demi knows how controversial it is to say that Latin people are more passionate. She knows what will get headlines.
Also, Demi and Wilmer have been together for at least three and a half years this go-around, but they first dated when she was 17 and he was 29. He had a bad reputation back then and it was well deserved. Maybe he’s calmed down.
I think she’s beefing with Nicki Minaj. They had a go at each other on Instagram. TheShadeRoom covered it.
Yea she is over something stupid. Nicki didn’t mention her in an IG post and Demi decided to be petty about it and got called out. So stupid
Demi’s mad because Nicki Minaj didn’t caption her in a photo so then she put some childish things on snapchat and then said she had a bad time at the MET gala cause she didn’t fit in and she’s too “awkward” and “lame” for it. I think she’s just upset that not everyone is crawling all over her to be her friend and talk about how revolutionary she is. In almost every interview of Demi’s she mentions how she’s this great singer who changes the world and is tough (and she compared her toughness to Nicki and Rihanna) and maybe that puts people off.
I think – though she is being a pain in the ass- Demi has a lot of problems because they stem from a very , very deep and ingrained insecurity. Something like not being mentioned on an Instagram, albeit a big popstar – should be something the press or media brings up, not her. A secure floats over that kind of pettiness. I’m not slamming her bc I think this girl is in her head a lot, and it doesn’t seem like a a great place to be, no matter how many messages of loving herself that she puts out there.
Maybe he changed, but there is still something so sleezy about him.
Also, I hate the Instagram brow trend, they never look natural. Demi is very pretty, but she should sack her makeup artist because he/she always makes her look bad on the red carpet.
Hate those drawn on etch-a-sketch brows, too.
I think she looks beautiful on that cover shot though. That being said, I absolutely cannot stand her.
She does look good. And her brows are totally in style right now, which I know in spite of being out of it because I looked something up on the Anastasia website yesterday. I like a strong brow, but just not a fake looking strong brow.
Me either, Kitten. There is something about her that I just can’t.
Im not talking about Latino men in general but one very specific that is in Demis life: passionate should never be mixed up with abusive. sadly lots of women make that mistake.
+1 if the rumors are true.
Thank you. The very first thing I thought when I read that line of her’s is do not confuse lack of self-control with passion. Do not confuse hateful controlling anger for love. She really strikes me as the type that if a man were overly possessive (which comes from distrust due to their own proclivities) to the point of emotional, mental or even physical abuse, that she would try to write that off as “love”. That aint love sister.
Right? I’m also wondering if being “more passionate” the way she defines it is actually a good thing.
“He’s very manly…he can be stubborn…he’s protective…he cares so much and loves so hard…”
I wonder how such a guy reacts in a bad break-up.
@JenniferJustice: we were commenting at the same time, but you said it much better than I did. 🙂
I didn’t think that at first, but now that you mentioned it, hopefully she’s not using ‘he’s passionate’ as a cover/excuse for physically or even emotionally abusive behavior.
I like the way they styled her on this cover.
Thanks for saying this! It’s so true.
Gee, glad you don’t stereotype.
Yeah, I’m tired of all these celebrities telling us what it means to be Latin. If they keep it up Latin America will exile me for not fitting in with all of these stereotypes.
I hate the latin stereotypes. Seriously. “Stubburn like Latino men are” NO. NO. YOUR MAN specifically IS STUBURN. Don’t paint every latino with the same brush that is so offense. My husband is latino and the furthest away from stuburn he is a great compromiser and very thoughtful and always chooses words carefully and concisely…something I really admire since I tend to talk and then think later LOL
It’s ridiculous to make statements that all people of one group are the same way. Ridiculous and offensive.
Agreed!! Well said!!
Demi is too thirsty for drama for me. She seems to need a lot of conflict in her life. She’s starting fights with everyone, this time Nikki Minaj.
Um I thought it was understood that he was and is a creep, a big souce of her and LiLo’s issues and that go to druggie friend of the Disney Kids?
Yeah- but he must have changed (the druggie part)??? Demi has been clean & sober for a few years now so they might have had that in common when she was 17 but I think he must not be doing that anymore.
Speaking from personal experience with boyfriends from the past, I agree with her comment that Latino men tend to love harder and have more compassion. Italian men are also in this same boat.
It’s not smart to buy into stereotypes whether good or bad.
No but it’s also rather illogical to think the different cultures, religions, legislations and social practices from around the world don’t have any impact in the personality traits generally found within their people.
I didn’t say the things you mentioned don’t shape a person. Saying Latin and Italian love harder and have more compassion than any other ethnicity is a stereotype. Believing any stereotype good or bad is a disservice to that particular group. I don’t know what your point is.
Demi wants to buy into her own stereotyping because it is regarding positive traits. She would not be so quick to point out the stereotypical negative traits of his culture. When I hear “passion”, all I really hear is excuses for a lack of self-control and discipline – hair-trigger tempers and emotional abuse. But he’s just loving her so hard – he feels too much. Give me a break!
I agree, FingerBinger. Also, while certain cultures, in general, may express themselves in more outspoken or emotional way, I think it’s ridiculous to say that their actual love is “harder” whatever that means, or deeper than someone who expresses their love in a quieter way or is less comfortable expressing their love. And the fact that someone is very passionate seeming does not actually translate to how much they do or don’t love you. It’s just their personality, shaped, as you said, by many factors.
Everything that FingerBinger and GNAT said.
This is true. Her wording does not sound like a healthy relationship. Jealous and possessive men use this excuse. I only want to protect you that is why I don’t want you to go out tonight. I love you so much you make me crazy. If you leave me you are leaving the only man who will ever love this deep. Excuses people make for overly dramatic dysfunctional relationships.
The same people who think jealousy equals love.
Or maybe they’re just weaned on telenovelas, haha.
My list of ex boyfriends is at least half Puerto Rican and can’t say I recall anything all that passionate there. Maybe I just never found the right one–my Rogelio!
“He’s very manly.” Girl, stop worshipping your guy in public because you know he will betray you any day now. He’s a serial cheater and he’s a fan of underaged girls. He does not have a very good image, so save it. As far as passion goes, well I’m Latin and kind of sick of that stereotype especially when it’s applied to men. I’ve seen so many women justifying their guy’s abusiveness and hot temper with “he’s passionate.” And not just Latin girls, anyone. These girls are not even refering to love making but how what a hot head he is. The only major difference I’ve noted between white boys and Latin boys is that a lot of white guys can be loners or have very few friends, and they hate going to places where you can dance lol. And when they dance it’s like Joey Tribbiani dancing haha. And Latin guys have way more friends and love dancing and doing more fun activities for dates. And even that is generally speaking. You can get that sexy passion and fun from any man.
Wilmer is probably not that great anyway, and will dump her soon. He’s a douche.
As a latin woman myself I don’t think she’s lying. Of course, not all latinos live their lives as if they were telenovelas, but I noticed during my studies in Europe people there are much colder. And, of course, by this I don’t mean European people are unable of feeling emotions, either, but that this particular personality trait is found more often in one culture than the other.
I think it has to do with he fact the institution of family is much stronger in our culture. I lived with my parents until I was 26 – which would make me a total loser in some countries, but is pretty much the norm here. Latin families are usually bigger, too, not just by number of siblings but the fact many latin houses usually house more people than a marriage with kids. I think growing up in an eviroment like that makes your relationships stronger and more passionate as Demi put it. Latin society is extremely sexist too and pushes very rigid codes, to both men and women, on how they should behave based on gender, so her comments about Wilmer don’t sound completely out of touch, either (because I assume by “latin men” she doesn’t mean every single latin man).
AND I’M NOT TRYING TO JUSTIFY WILMER IN ANY WAY. I just have problems with people saying every single statement of “these people are ____” is baseless and racist, because there’s different cultures, moral codes, religions and legislations around the world so why is it unthinkable for one trait to be more noticeable within a demographic group than other?
Agree completely! I’m Mexican and when I lived in Belgium I noticed that too. For example, we Mexicans are big huggers (not everyone of couse), and we tend to be extremely hospitable and overly polite (something that in me and other mexican friends experiences was very strange to them). And as you say this comes from the dynamics we have in our families, thats how we act and are expected to act normally in our countries.
I just hope that the “passion” Demi is talking about is not cover an abusive relationship, as I have heard that expression to cover violence.
I agree! People are so quick to raise the stereotype flag—um…culture and environment CAN influence emotional behavior. Cultural anthropology, anyone?
My South American born friends are much more openly affectionate than my white friends—my Latina friends call each other sweet affectionate names, nena, hermana, linda, all the time. They say ‘love you’ when parting and they kiss each other’s cheeks. They’re always at each other’s houses and they’re constantly hosting parties for one another that run into all hours in the night. Of course personalities run the course: some of them are shy, some are outgoing, some are chatty, some are bold. But they exhibit a cultural habit of unthinking affection that a lot of other ethnic groups don’t have. I’ve become more openly affectionate just by being around them.
The thing with Europe is that the difference between people from different parts of Europe are quite big. The difference in “public” behaviour between a Swede or an Italian or a Russian are huge. I don’t know if the differences are as pronounced in South America because I’ve never been there.
I would say that the institution of family is very very strong in South and Southeastern Europe, but the thing that is different is that there is a strong distinction between private and public behaviour. We ( I’m from Southeastern Europe) can come across as quite cold to strangers, but generally, once you get to know people they are very warm and friendly.
The institution of family is strong in many cultures. You don’t have the market cornered on that.
I agree – but to a certain point. If you were to visit Argentina after visiting other LatAm countries you would find us cold and standoffish. We are warmer than some Europeans (but not really, italians are louder and passionate than us) but much “colder” than other countries.
I consider my culture to be extremely friendly (because the lines between public and private are blurred) but in my experience most Americans are the friendliest people I’ve ever met and definitely more expressive than some Europeans.
Again with bolstering only the postive traits. I agree cultures definitely have more and less of certain traits compared to eachother – both men and women, but when you only talk up what you see as positive in order to praise your culture, you miss the mark. If you’re going to compare and talk about traits, be fair and mention the bad as well as the good.
I have no problem noting good and bad for American culture in regards to men. The stereotypical American male is macho, needs to feel dominant, prefers traditional marital roles, wants to be babied like a child but possessive and domineering like a King. They want their wives to be everything – mother, lover, friend, have their babies and take care of both the children and the men. American guys love their bros, beer, going down on their women, and either sports or hunting or both. They can be emotionally stunted and uncomfortable expressing love with words. They are men of action and so better to measure their love by their behavior. They are stubborn and unwilling to admit they’re wrong but will change their behavior. We have a problem in this country with machisma. We treat our girls sweetly, and treat our boys tougher because they’re going to be men some day and need some hardening up, but only from their family. Anybody else who might hurt their child’s feelings will pay for it. The men tend to be resourceful, self-sufficient, tinkerers, and fix-its. Die-hard loyal to family. These aren’t my likes or preferences. This is what I see and I only see my area of our culture – MidWestern. Note I don’t only push the good things. Anybody even hinting that their culture is better than any other or that their men are somehow better, more desirable, etc. has no credibility IMO because there is give and take, good and bad in almost all cultures.
This^^
It’s not “baseless and racist”, but people get mighty tired of it. For example, most people outside of the US think Americans are fat and stupid (and that is generally the most flattering thing said about us). I’m neither, but it doesn’t matter what I say or do–most people will already have made their mind up about me. I could say the sky is blue, and the response would be that it’s clearly green and only someone from the US would be so ignorant and self-centred as to call it blue.
Am I saying that there are no fat, stupid Americans? Of course not; there are many. But the knee-jerk reaction is frustrating and discouraging.
I am also kind of tired of the word “cold” being the go-to word to describe Europeans, especially those of us from northern Europe.
I agree, especially because it has a negative connotation, as if you are less human or less feeling than other cultures. As I said above, learned outward behavior has nothing to do with the depth of your actual feelings. My mother is very reserved. That’s the way she was brought up. Her parents didn’t hug or kiss except when saying hello or goodbye after a long separation. If you didn’t know her, you might get the impression that she was somewhat cold. Yet I know no one else in the world who loves more deeply or selflessly than my mother. So it’s unfair to say someone is cold just because they are not flamboyantly enthusiastic in their greetings or interactions.
Ok, for one, enough with “In Europe…”/”Europeans…” etc! It’s a damn continent with over 30 countries! Case and point: Italians/Spaniards/Portuguese and such tend to hug you the minute they lay eyes on you while their northern counterparts aren’t likely to go beyond a handshake if they don’t know you.
Secondly, there’s no need to worship that over-the-top touchiness and imply that the entire continent is not overly family orientated because we don’t go around hugging strangers.
Don’t get me wrong, I think this kind of behavior is just a cultural difference and one is not necessarily better than the other (that just depends on one’s personality) BUT I’m getting damn tired of being called cold and emotionless just because I’m composed in public.
Guess what? Some of us actually like the fact that people behave differently and more composed in public, that random people you’ve never met won’t come too close to you or touch you and so on.
Also, just because we value our independence and like living on our own, that does not mean that most of us are strangers to our family.
Hear, hear!
Yeah, there are a lot of generalizations being thrown around like facts. People have little tolerance for behavior unlike their own. Even in my family, my cousins call their mom three times a day and she has five children.,I don’t know how she has time to do anything but talk on the phone. If I called my mother three times a day, she would want to scream, I think. But my cousin said we weren’t as close as they are, when we have a very close and loving relationship. We just don’t express our affection in the same way.
I find this funny (in a good way!) because I’ve been to both Spain and Italy multiple times and never been touched or hugged or whatever.
This is why stereotypes suck.
I personally prefer it when people respect personal space and aren’t overly familiar with people they’ve just met. Unfortunately the opposite of this is heavily ingrained in my country’s culture and I can’t get away from it, but this doesn’t make me “cold” or others “warm”.
Cee,
Well, I’m usually not too keen on stereotyping either. However, there are some cultural trends that can be attributed to cultures on average. The important thing to keep in mind, though, is that it can’t be applied to every single person.
In my personal experience, most of the people that I’ve encountered from countries in southern Europe were big on hugging, back/shoulder pats etc. However, they figured out pretty fast that I’m not keen on that and never really did that to me… 😀
GNAT,
I would go bonkers if someone called me multiple times a day expecting conversations, that would just make me feel suffocated. For one, how does that fit into a working person’s schedule? Personally, barring personal emergencies, I would not see the need for that. I mean, I don’t skype/talk on the phones with my best friends every day and I’d say that we’re quite close… As I said above, personally for me this would feel too needy and suffocating just because I prefer different interactions.
What grates on my nerves in these cases is how people like me are portrayed as some kind of mountains of ice who should aspire to change to suit the needs of /mimic the people who need/seek out constant physical and other interaction. Why? Why is only that behavior seen as desired and/or positive? Why is ‘passionate’ given as a superior trait to ‘reserved’?
I don’t know, Anna. As I said, I think people just think their way is automatically better.
Josephina and saks, I agree with you all as well. I am a latina and have dated men of several ethnicities and understand where you are coming from. As a Mexican myself, I kiss and hug as a greeting and I find that certain people seem uncomfortable with this greeting so I hold back with them.
I do not believe that Im being racist or stereotypical with my statements regarding latin men. I speak from personal experience and Culturally speaking, people are brought up differently, which is a factual statement, not racist. I will say my past latin lovers did love differently (harder), in my opinion. I do not associate “Harder” with actions such as violence or control issues bc those were not my experiences with them. I don’t know Wilmer and don’t follow him and his private life so I can’t speak for his feelings. I simply speak about my personal experiences with latino men. My latin ex b-friends were so very passionate (in the romantic sense) , absolutely genuine , & dripping with compassion & emotion… compassion was straight from the heart with these latinos. You have to experience it to understand what I mean . Just like spanish songs are more heartfelt… there is more passion in these songs lyrics. If you are bi lingual (spanish/English)… you’d understand what Im taking about and you know the difference. I didn’t marry a latin man though. When I found my husband, I noticed he had a good balance of the complete package and he is white. AND of course NOT ALL LATIN MEN have these traits we speak of…everyone is brought up differently and have different experiences growing up who makes them who they are today . I simply speak about MY own experiences.
Sigh. Wilmer is skeevy. And Demi is a Drama Queen. That’s all I got. I don’t care for her quotes on what she thinks Latinos are and aren’t, because I don’t put too much stock into anything she says half of the time anyway.
I’m with ya!
She is so thirsty! When I had cable and watched E! News, she made sure she and Wilmer were on there everyday in some way!
Hmmm, stereotypes are never good, but I’m not going to knock a Latina for talking about her own (yes I realize the term Latino covers a wide spectrum of people).
I think we just tend to be more open in expressing our feelings–that is often times what others call passionate, it’s just a culture thing, IMO.
Well, I am a Latina too, and I will indeed knock a Latina for stereotyping her own.
Okay, well good for you then I suppose 😶
If she feels she gets more passion from her Latino boyfriend than from her white ones, that’s her prerogative…
Um…no. Passion as it is used in stereotyping Latino’s cannot be defined as merely expressing emotions. I think we’re all tiptoeing around the fact that what it means in the stereotypical sense, is out-of-control and beligerence – yelling and hollering, overly excitable, acting like a nut case. Do you really want all of your culture defined and veiwed this way? Because that is what it is – it’s not about saying “I love you” more often or citing poetry. Come on!
Well my Latino husband is the most level-headed person I know. He is the last person to let his emotions and passions think for him. And I’m as WASPy as they come but I’m extremely passionate and emotional and fiery.
I think it’s just a dumb thing to say, to repeat that generalization. She does just want attention I guess.
Well he’s obviously NOT Latino then lol.
Is anybody else sick of this girl!?! There is something really irritating about her.
I try to slightly give her a pass because she is bipolar. But I don’t like her. At all.
Oh, I didn’t know she was bipolar.
@NeNe: she is, gets, or got, treatment and I presume is on meds of some sort. Still a rotten person, IMO, but some of it, the anger and lashing out and weird flip flopping passionately about things, I would gather are attributed to the bipolar diagnosis and an issue with controlling emotions. It seems like that altogether is why her career takes nosedives or goes in a standstill over the years – she’s not pleasant to know or work with.
I like her. I like that she’s honest about her thoughts, even if people won’t agree with them. It’s like the saying, not everyone will like you unless your name is Hundred Dollar Bill. That takes guts in an industry that depends on broad-scope likeability.
Holy stereotypes, Batman!
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again-she photoshops herself from death and for someone who preaches body confidence it’s irritating.
As a person who lives with stereotypes that are two sided I find her statements in this day and age regressive.
She really needs public validation way too much.
Living in South TX, I agree they are a bit dramatic, but so are blacks and whites. It varies by person.
She talks a great deal about being a strong, confident, laid-back young woman, but her actions prove she’s the complete opposite.