Johnny Depp’s family hated Amber Heard, his mom thought Amber was ‘terrible’


The breaking news last night was that Johnny Depp and Amber Heard had split after just 15 months of marriage. TMZ broke the story that Amber had filed for divorce… just a few days after his mother passed away. Which is still a really stone-cold thing to do. TMZ updated their story a few hours later with the news that Johnny had already filed his response to Amber’s divorce petition and that he’s asking the judge to reject Amber’s claim for spousal support. Ha, good luck with that! They got married without a prenup, and you know Amber is going to get that money. Also: Johnny’s lawyer is the famed divorce attorney Laura Wasser. Wasser is not known for he-said/she-said media wars, but I still think a lot of mud-slinging will be going down, especially in the first few weeks. Just in the past 14 hours, there’s already been a ton of info to come out. Some highlights:

Amber spent her birthday without Johnny. She celebrated her 30th birthday in Palm Springs, without Depp and with several girlfriends. She’s also been filming Aquaman and presumably Justice League stuff. And she and Johnny haven’t walked a carpet together in months, which is why I initally thought there were problems.

Depp’s family hated Amber. TMZ says Depp and Heard are already quite bitter towards each other mostly because his family hated her and the hate was seemingly mutual. TMZ writed: “Multiple sources connected to the ex-couple tell us, Johnny’s 2 teenage kids, his 2 sisters and his mom “hated” Amber, and openly discussed it. We’re told they talked about how Amber would rail on Johnny and ‘treat him like crap.’” Johnny’s late mother Betty Sue Palmer – who lived with Depp and Heard in LA for much of this year – often told friends that she thought Amber “was using Johnny for his money and fame, and to boost her own career.” Shocking! Oh, and Amber kept Johnny away from his mom and other people so she (Amber) would have “full control” of access to Johnny. And “Our sources say Amber had 2 closed door sit-downs with Johnny’s mom after she moved in, and after both meetings Betty Sue railed on her daughter-in-law, calling her a ‘terrible person.’”

Amber didn’t even want to marry Johnny. That’s People Mag’s version of events, which is probably the most pro-Amber version we’re going to get. According to People’s sources, Amber was hesitant about marrying Johnny, with one source saying: “Before Amber met Johnny she was just a regular super cool hipster chick living with roommates who dated girls. At their engagement party she kind of got cold feet… she was just like what is this scene and what am I doing here? She kind of couldn’t believe it was her life now.” It was Amber who held up the wedding plans for a year, and she was the reason for the “turmoil” in the relationship, sources say. And one source tells People: “When Johnny Depp wants you, you don’t really say no. Why would you?” Ugh.

So… yeah, this is going to get messy. I’m a little bit surprised that People Mag is running somewhat sympathetic (as in, not blatantly nasty) stories about Amber while TMZ is definitely staking out a pro-Depp angle. More dirt to come, I’m sure.


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  1. Lindy79 says:

    ““Before Amber met Johnny she was just a regular super cool hipster chick living with roommates who dated girls. ”

    Ok, I just eye rolled so hard there I now resemble Meryl Street in Death Becomes Her

    • Rebecca/Becky says:

      Lindy, lol!

      I thought this would happen, but not this quickly. How long have they been together in total, is it more than 2 yrs?

      • roses says:

        As quite as its been kept its been said since they did that movie Rum Diary together. Their both foolish.

      • SnarkySnarkers says:

        Just a regular super cool hipster chick! LMAO! Best line ever. Was that supposed to garner sympathy? It just sounds sarcastic. Does anyone remember the story about the 2 of them going into Whole Foods together and grabbing things out of the bulk bins with bare hands, eating it and just generally being gross together? Freaking hilarious.

      • Jwoolman says:

        Snarky- oh, nooooo! That’s like donut licking!!!!

    • HollyG says:

      IKR? Hi, Amber.

      This is the kind of thing that People lives for–there will be months and months of “Amber’s secret heartache: She couldn’t help Johnny with his demons” followed by “Johnny Depp back on top and better than ever” followed by “A new love for Amber? You’ll never guess who!” And if we’re really lucky, a series of speculations on whether Vanessa will take him back, his closeness with Helena Bonham Carter leading to something more, or his attempts to woo Amber again.

      Regarding the timing of their split and the sudden avalanche of gossip, I suspect this was in the works for a while, so it’s in the hands of their respective attorneys and publicists. Whatever unfortunate paralegal was deputized to file her papers may not have even known that his mother died. First round: advantage Depp.

      • Heat says:

        HollyG – You’ve just written the title lines to the next year’s worth of People mag articles! They really should pay you! :)

      • Heat says:

        One more article title to add: Secret Hotel Rendezvous with Winona?

      • Shambles says:

        WINO FOREVER. Don’t tease me.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Wynnona deserves so much better than Johnny Depp in his current state!!!

        I don’t know why people act like the divorce is a sign that Amber’s a gold digger or a horrible person. We’ve been watching Johnny in a likely sobriety crisis for some time now, and yet we blame her for their divorce? It seems to me she’s not an enabler. I say good for her. If that’s what he’s been like in public, I can only imagine the sad things that happened in private.

      • Liz says:

        You just nailed it!
        People is SO Team Amber, she’s been leaking them shit for years just for this moment. She thought she would hit Depp the week his movie opened and then BOMBSHELL! He’s a broken hearted grieving son.
        Team Johnny for the win! HA HA
        Now the level of scramble over at People is just so sad. HA HA HA

    • Dangles says:

      Well, she was hanging around with urban arty types. Now that she’s financially set for life she’ll probably go back to be hanging around with people she relates to. On the other hand she might get with another actor who’s a bit lower on than Hollywood food chain the Johnny to try and keep herself in the spotlight.

    • LadyMTL says:

      IKR? I came here to say the same thing. I think I’ve been laughing for close to five minutes now. I mean, she’s so super-cool that she has People mag (they’re the coolest!) bigging her up. LOLOLOLOL.

    • Wren says:

      No kidding! I had to stop reading to roll my eyes when I got to that bit.

      I can see how she may have felt out of her element with Johnny’s crowd but “super cool hipster chick”? Mmmmkay, sure, if it makes you happy go ahead and call yourself that. I’ll just be over here laughing.

      • Size Does Matter says:

        But she’s just a REGULAR super cool hipster chick. Can you imagine how insufferable she would be if she were an ULTRA?

    • hogtowngooner says:

      OMG right?? Me too. She’s trying sooo hard to convince us she’s cool she’s coming off desperate and insecure.

      I know People’s gone way downhill recently but I can’t understand why they’re hitching their wagon to Amber…

      • Lindsay says:

        It is People magazine, this is their game. Amber gets her turn to talk Johnny’s people get to read it first, that way they will know if there’s anything they need to get out in front of, start to work on Johnny’s narrative, prepare their client for his big sitdown interview with People. Both sides trust People won’t let the other side cross the line and say something and print something (illegal ativity, abuse, abandonment, knowingly lie or rewrite history) This allows them to do the impossible, stay on the good side of both parties and monitor things as they unfold by watching newsstand sales numbers. If their so called “minivan majority” makes it clear through sales whose side they are on the coverage will become a bit more biased. This isn’t Bennifer 2.0, when Jennifer Garner was the easy pick and obvious “wronged party.” Both entered the marriage with questionable motives and actions leading up to the marriage, both had quotes during that hinted at problems, and neither will leave unscathed either. She is going to come across as a cold, manipulative opportunist who blew through a bunch of his money and has her hand out and he is going to look like he has some serious issues.

    • KB says:

      lol so much try and thirst in that one

    • Pandy says:

      Yeah methinks she wrote her own press release there! Well now she can go back to her super cool hipster who dates girls and had a roommate lifestyle. Yeah right. Chica wants as much $$ as she can get. Always did.

  2. Talie says:

    She gonna get paid now! No way she doesn’t walk away with no less than $10 mil.

    • Fluffystuff says:

      Yeah she will have done well out of this. 15 months for a few million has to be worth it!

      Still I remember clearly when Johnny and Vanessa split that there were stories about how much Johnny’s family hated Vanessa and loved Amber. Specifically I can remember a story sold by his brother in law who said that none of Johnny’s family got on with Vanessa, especially Johnny’s mother and that tension helped lead to the split. That same brother in law said everyone thought Amber was simply amazing and they were perfect together.

      • says:

        There was a big smear campaign against Vanessa, and I expect it will be even worse against Amber. Leaving your “old wife” for a newer model doesn’t look good, but being proven an old fool by said new model ? That has to burn.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Sounds like MIL didn’t like anybody he was with. My guess is any woman who dares to call him out for his drugging and drinking is promptly put at the top of his Mom’s shi!t list. I’d be willing to bet the only enabler in that family is the MIL.

      • Trashaddict says:

        Um, yeah. In some cultures, MIL in the house is kind of a thing, but I don’t think Amber would have stood for that so I could see her having a sit-down. I probably would too in those circumstances, in as nice a way as possible.
        This whole thing makes me more curious about his mom.

      • Greenieweenie says:

        Someone please explain to me how you can file for spousal support after 15 months of marriage. I do not understand this given the principle of spousal support, and especially because no children are involved. Strikes me as sexist and overall, I think the government should remove itself from the institution of marriage period. (I totally sound like I’m a member of the religious right, I know. Nope, total progressive, just do not understand).

      • Liz says:

        No that crap about Vanessa being a bitch and Amber being a saint came from a soon to be EX WIFE of depp’s brother. You really think she had the best motives in mind?? She also bitched about how the family was ganging up on her and wouldn’t help her pay her legal fees.. sooo in short, Amber probably offered that woman some cash to go to the tabloids! HA HA

      • qwerty says:

        How is that sexist? Does it say anywhere only women can do that?

    • Trillion says:

      Amber Heard “Cha-Ching”

  3. Denisemich says:

    I hope he takes this opportunity to dry out. He looks like a bloated caricature of his former self. This split can only be good for him emotionally. Monetarily she is going to take as much as she can, that was always apparent.

    • Christin says:

      Between the bloom falling off the rose (this relationship) and his mother’s health decline/passing, he’s likely had it rough -emotionally. Yet I don’t know what he expected with this ‘project’ he took on.

      • Denisemich says:

        @Christin, I LOVE that you call their marriage a ‘project’

      • Christin says:

        I haven’t followed this closely, but I remember that was my impression when they were dating — that it was a project (with benefits, I suppose). Make her a star and all.

        I didn’t realize they were married for a month or two. 😟

    • Majicou says:

      Him and Leonardo DiCaprio. It’s what happens when you are able to get super hot chicks at half your age without doing anything about your appearance.

      • Cricket says:

        And constantly having your mom around. Isn’t Leo’s mom his date all the time to the awards shows, etc?

      • qwerty says:

        Yes she is. Probably one of the 2 women over 25 he can force himself to talk to, the other being Kate Winslet.

  4. Nancy says:

    Johnny should have stayed with Vanessa. I thought she was more suited for him. This marriage always seemed disingenuous to me. I’m going through the process now. GNAT do you remember our conversation of last December. You said we were the lucky ones. You must carry the torch now. For some reason, your words stayed with me, not that of my sisters or friends, they’re too close. Funny how a fellow poster on celeb gossip site words comfort me. Thank you GNAT.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Nancy, I’m so, so sorry. Things will get better, and easier, I promise. But I know how painful this time can be, and scary and overwhelming. My thoughts are with you, my friend. Sending love and good wishes your way. I wish I had more.

      • Nancy says:

        Thank you sweetie. I feel like some sort of a cliché or a statistic. I am not a weak woman, and this too shall pass.

      • OTHER RENEE says:

        Nancy, I’m sorry you’re going through this but trust me when I say that there IS a light at the end of the tunnel. I had a friend tell me it takes about 2 years until you feel “normal” again. I didn’t believe her but it really was true. And my new normal was much better than my previous normal.

    • Bettyrose says:

      Yeah, the cliche midlife crisis element here is over the top. And mygawd why did he marry her? If this had just been a fling, it’d be over and done now. But what ? He needed to outright own his midlife sports car? A short term lease wasn’t enough to establish his virility?

      • swak says:

        If she had doubts, why did she marry him?

      • Bettyrose says:

        My guess (posted below)she thought she could continue living her twentysomething hipster life and was wrong.

      • Wren says:

        Money. That’s why she married him.

        I’m not sure why he married her, though. Perhaps he thought she’d stick around longer? He’s also of the generation where marriage is seen as making a relationship legit, and he definitely wanted to do that. See, this is totally real and she’s totally into me! For reals!”

      • Bettyrose says:

        Wren, he didn’t marry his long time partner, mother of his two kids. That’s why this marriage to me feels like his need to own something. Not a person but a connection to youthfulness.

      • saras says:

        Everyone saw this coming. She was with a woman when they met and unless you have an open relationship with a bisexual it usually ends this way. It seemed obvious she was using him as a come up and cash cow.

      • ohdear says:

        Johnny has always wanted to be married, it was the women he was with who didn’t.

      • anon33 says:

        @saras, please stop perpetuating the myth that all bisexuals are cheaters or “always go back to the same sex.” it’s 1 million percent untrue, and even if it were true, WTH difference does it make if she moves on with a man or a woman?

      • Wren says:

        Sexual orientation has nothing to do with whether someone cheats or not. Bisexual means you’re attracted to both sexes, it doesn’t mean you’re sex mad and will cheat with anyone you meet. WTF? How is this still a point of confusion?

      • MiniMii says:

        @saras – I am bisexual and your comment is just nonsense. Cheating comes down to who you are as a person, not your gender or sexual orientation.

      • saras says:

        Not perpetuating stereotypes other than gold diggers.

      • qwerty says:

        Please stop talking.

      • saras says:

        Overly sensitive bi police…

    • tealily says:

      Hang in there, Nancy. I can truly happen to anyone.

    • Beatrice says:

      Absolutely he should have stayed with Vanessa. I read somewhere (here maybe?) that Vanessa told someone she thought Amber was too immature or young to keep Johnny from going off the deep end or something to that effect. Sadly, I think it was true.

      • tealily says:

        But honestly, why should it be the wife’s job to keep her husband from going of the deep end? He’s a grown man and he is in charge of himself. If he’s that fragile, get a therapist, man. Don’t lay that one someone else.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        But maybe Vanessa didn’t want him anymore. I agree with tealily. Dependence is a hard thing to be saddled with, and Johnny sounds very dependent on his partners for his own survival.

      • Trashaddict says:

        THANK YOU. I love hearing you say that. I have been working for years to get that damn script out of my head.

      • Liz says:

        It’s more about surrounding yourself with the right people and right environments. Depp has issues, yes. He’s never shied away from talking about them. He also talked so much (as did his friends) about how settling with vanessa into a quiet life helped him. She was low key, didn’t want to be in Hollywood, wasn’t high stress, it’s simple really. That’s more what it’s about. Not that it was her JOB to keep him stable, she just provided a better space for it. And clearly, it was true.

    • Shannon says:

      So sorry to hear that. I’ve been through that process and it is so hard. But everyone told me then, just like everyone is telling you now – it does get better. I ended a long-term relationship last year and felt like I’d just never be happy again. Now, I can’t even imagine being back in that space and feel happy and free … really like a new and better person – you’ll get there too :D (((hugs)))

  5. paolanqar says:

    She won’t go very far, she doesn’t have a fan base and unless something HUGE has happened, her acting is too sucky to be able to drag her in the Alisters movie star rank. I don’t think anybody care for her acting and I can’t see her having a long life in Hollywood. unless she leaches onto another A list movie star next.

    • Tate says:

      She will be known as that girl Johnny Depp was married to for a minute.

      • mary simon says:


      • Christin says:

        Bingo. She’ll likely travel and do pap walks.

      • Shambles says:

        How could you be so flippant as to dismiss her extremely moving performance as “hot girl” in the groundbreaking film “Never Back Down”?

      • tealily says:

        Or her compelling turn as the “hot girl” in the cinematic classic “Drive Angry”?

      • amilu says:

        Honestly…I saw her in All the Boys Love Mandy Lane years before this relationship was a thing, and I liked her a lot. I still like her…despite her temp job as Johnny Depp’s arm candy.

        I hope it turns out that she’s not the gold-digging @$$h0le everyone assumes she is. If I was a small-fry actress, and an incredibly famous/wealthy/powerful man fell for me, pursued me, and asked me to be his wife, I can’t say that I wouldn’t try to make it work. But that’s probably just because I’m looking forward to an overdraft charge in the next couple of days.

        I just wonder if you’re really actively digging for gold if the man is pursuing you relentlessly (which was my impression of Depp/Heard), and you acquiesce because it would be advantageous for you in the end. She wasn’t known for setting her sights on rich/famous prey previously; Tasya van Ree has a pretty low profile.

      • Liz says:

        I cringe every time people bring up Mandy Lane. Come ON! That was a D horror movie, literally made on no budget, by first time film makers. Every piece of it I saw on youtube looked like complete shit! Those movies are made by the hundreds now, everyone gets a crapy distribution dvd deal. And she was doing exactly the same pouty, boring, dead acting she has always done.

    • Dangles says:

      Brigitte Nielsen 2:0

    • Yolie C says:

      You hit the nail on the head. Not even Johnny could get her any decent acting parts. She got the most out of that marriage as she could, which wasn’t much. I have sympathy for Johnny losing his mother but other than that he should have known better about marrying her. She was always meant to be a fling.

    • serena says:

      Yeah, now she’ll always just be Johnny Depp’s ex-wife. Good job Amber! Oh well, at least she’ll take all his money.

      I just hope this is a huge wake-up call to Johnny, enough with the mid-life crisis, get yourself in shape and chose good projects, or just get a solo vacation!
      I won’t say ‘go back with Vanessa’, because I think there were problems there too.. long before Amber.

    • MiniMii says:

      I think that’s probably why she dumped Johnny. She grabbed onto him thinking his status would pull her up and into the spotlight, better roles, yada yada, and when it didn’t work, off she goes in search of another famous sucker.

  6. Naya says:

    Guys, I honestly think this filing was the result of an ultimatum. How does it make sense for a gold digger to try and leave a multi millionaire with no kids and barely 15 months put in? And Johnny did say that he wanted kids with her, so the child support card was always available to her. I think she told him to cut down the drinking, it didnt take and this is where we are now. I also think they will reconcile. I think this is one of those unhealthy relationships that would probably feed off this kind of drama. They’ll tear each other apart for a few months and then presto, she’ll be back on the island with our dear scarf monster.

    • roses says:

      I know he just announced he’s going on tour with his band, Just don’t see that being a good thing for him to do.

      • Em says:

        The guys he’s touring with – Alice Cooper and Joe Perry – have both battled serious addictions in the past and now live very healthy lifestyles. So I actually think they will be great company for Depp at this time. Cooper has apparently mentored several famous musicians struggling with alcohol and drug addictions.

      • Wren says:

        Alice Cooper is awesome. If Depp is really going on tour with him and Perry that actually might be the best thing for him. Playing music and having bro time to help him get him out of his head. It might stop him from doing something stupid and trying to win Amber back. Friends who are potentially good influences would be good for him.

    • Kitten says:

      I don’t know…the kids hating Amber is a pretty insurmountable obstacle. I feel like that’s the kind of issue that would keep bubbling up, and maybe they both just couldn’t deal with it anymore.

      I’ve always disliked Amber so I’m not sad about this. Not that I think Johnny would be easy to be with, but she just seems like an emotional leech.

      • tealily says:

        He does too though, doesn’t he? I imagine he must be exhausting.

      • elns says:

        EXACTLY my feelings. thanks.

      • laura in LA says:

        Also, Johnny was apparently very close with his mother, obviously if she was living with them in LA. So her illness and recent passing may be a wakeup call for him. And that Amber filed only days after her death? That’s stone cold, and not that I give a shyte about either one, but they’re DONE.

        By the way, this is what happens when someone with cold feet marries anyway to the one they love less or not at all. Even if there’s some understanding of this imbalance, or an agreement, it almost always ends up in resentment, resistance, rejection and finally nastiness, ie. the way Amber repotedly treated drunk, old, slurry-speech Johnny.

    • Myrna says:

      The blind I read says that she told him she’s been having an affair with a woman and that he was stunned because he wanted children with her and can’t get past the affair, which, BTW, she’s maintained in spite of his objections.
      She also simply casually maintained that she’s bi…like he’s supposed to live with it.
      I didn’t think it could be about them because it was known that she had lesbian affairs long before she and he were a thing, but with this announcement, I think it’s them.

      • Bettyrose says:

        Myrna, yeah all of that is probably true. Who would’ve guessed that these two would have such incompatible lifestyles? I got no love for gold diggers, but I kinda do believe the People mag angle that he pursued her hard and no one turns down JD. I mean, she probably thought he’d be away most of the time and she’d live her own life while still getting a career boost from the association.

      • Shambles says:

        “She also simply casually maintained that she’s bi…like he’s supposed to live with it.”

        If she had an affair with someone else, be it a man or a woman, that’s obviously gross, wrong, and unnaceptable. But I have to take issue with the way you phrased the above sentence, as if being bisexual is some deformity that one’s partner simply has to live with. Please correct me if that’s not how you meant it, and don’t think I’m just jumping to be offended. I am a bisexual woman who has primarily dated men, but I acknowledge that I am physically attracted to both genders. That doesn’t mean I “can’t make up my mind,” or that I can’t stop myself from having affairs with people of the opposite sex. It simply is my sexuality. Bisexual people already face a lot of stigmatization, and bisexual women in particular have to deal with being fetishized by men who find it sexually attractive but who will also tell you they’ll pray for you and that they could never have a serious relationship with you in the same breath. I’m projecting a lot of my own experience here so I apologize, but we just have to be careful how we say things. I doubt you meant any harm by it and I’m not trying to attack you, I just recently had a bad experience due to being open with my sexuality and I wish people would be more compassionate and aware.

      • Bob says:

        Shambles, I read the same blind item that Myrna is referring to and if memory serves she’s just paraphrasing the way it was presented there (which was pretty obnoxious).

        I’m sorry you recently had a bad experience due to being open about your sexuality. It bums me out how much crap bisexual people get just for being honest. And I find it sort of fascinating how difficult many people find it to accept what is at heart a very simple thing — sexually attracted to men and women.

      • Myrna says:

        @ Shambles
        Please, no offense intended at all.
        What I mean is she declared to him, her husband, that she is bi implying that she intends to have relationships with women outside the marriage.
        Any relationship outside the marriage, assuming that one expects monogamy, is tough to take.
        That’s all I meant.
        I wish you the best!

      • claire says:

        Why would she need to surprise him with being bisexual after they’re married? I mean, she dated women openly before him. He kinda already knew that she was bisexual when he got with her…(not that that means you will cheat – that’s a terrible stereotype placed on bisexuality)

      • Shambles says:

        Myrna, I got you. Sorry for jumping to conclusions. That makes more sense, the idea of her telling him she intends to conuntue relationships with women outside the marriage and he has to put up or shut up. Kinda gross, kinda bratty, kinda indicative that she was not in this for love (shocked)

      • Original T.C. says:

        I don’t know why the blind mentioned her Bisexuality. All they needed to say is she wants an open marriage or wants to cheat on him. And the having kids is also not related to bisexuality. They can just say she also refuses to have sex with her husband or does not want children with him. Not your fault, the blind is just oddly stated.

    • Mira says:

      I don’t buy that she’s some kind of sober buddy anyway. She’s aged a lot since she’s been with him. I think they both like to party. He of course has been looking progressively worse since he got with her. I am glad this is over, hes an old fool but i still have a soft spot for him. He needs to go away, get healthy and find a woman that wants him for him.

    • Jwoolman says:

      Naya, I think you’re right. This divorce isn’t really an advantage for her. They were married less than two years, no kids, and she makes her own money so apparently she didn’t have to put things on hold to be his wife. How much will a judge actually think she needs for support under those circumstances? More likely it didn’t have to do with money.

      I foresee a custody battle over the dogs….

    • Tiffany :) says:

      I agree, if she was truly a gold digger she would be making different choices.

      Google “Johnny Depp Drunk”.
      You get articles with these titles:
      “Johnny Depp Drunk and Disoriented at Film Festival”
      “Johnny Depp Drunk at Amber Heard’s Movie Premiere?”
      “Johnny Depp Drunk at Award Show”
      “Johnny Depp Drunk Disaster on Pirates of Caribbean Set”

      He has been publicly struggling for the last year and a half, and yet people automatically jump to knocking the spouse? Accuse her of cheating, being a gold digger etc. Really?!?!? How about she is married to someone who can’t stay sober. That means that you worry about your husband passing out and choking on vomit. Someone who needs you to cancel your obligations because they NEED you to help them or they could hurt themselves.

      With all of his public behavior this year, I am just really surprised that people aren’t more empathetic to what she is going through as the spouse of someone who is so clearly struggling. I really worry that he could be in a place that is deadly. I don’t blame her for having a limit of what she can/will deal with.

      • JeanGenie says:

        Tiffany, you wrote exactly what I was thinking. He’s a mess and she probably thought she could help him. I’m sure it was tempting to be woman who rescued a troubled movie star. And falling in love and the honeymoon stage of it all likely did curb the destructive behaviour for a while.

      • SilkyMalice says:

        I’m with you on this. She seemed like the caretaker, and that can be an exhausting chore if the person you are with is bent on destruction. Johnny has SERIOUS issues with alcohol. I fear it will kill him and that it won’t be too far down the road. Maybe she just didn’t want to watch it happening anymore.

    • Liz says:

      Well that will be the next story her PR will try to spin. “She told him to sober up (again) and he didn’t so she left.” But she’s been trying to spin that over and over and over again and the facts just do NOT support that. She drinks with him, pours him the damn drinks even! Plenty of photos to prove that.
      Also with him already responding to the papers and his PR’s statement today. His answer is “bye bye Amanda.”
      “Given the brevity of this marriage and the most recent and tragic loss of his mother, Johnny will not respond to any of the salacious false stories, gossip, misinformation and lies about his personal life,” his rep tells Us in a statement on Thursday, May 26. “Hopefully the dissolution of this short marriage will be resolved quickly.”
      Put a fork in it. He’s done with her.

  7. Chaucer says:

    I’m pretty concerned for Johnny with all of this. Mid-life crisis, divorce, drinking, drugs, and now his mom’s death and another divorce? I don’t know if he’s going to make it through all of this.

  8. elizabethswann says:

    YES, oh yes.

    Agreed, he should have stayed with Vanessa.

    • GingerCrunch says:

      Their kids might have preferred that too. 😔

      • tealily says:

        That’s not really fair. I’m sure everyone would have preferred it, but sometimes it just doesn’t work out.

    • Myrna says:

      He’d be incredibly more ‘sexy’ had he stayed with Vanessa.
      Now he’s become the common middle aged man who made a fool of himself for a calculating younger woman who used him dry.
      Too many men do this mistakenly thinking it makes them look appealing to be with a younger women.
      What’s appealing about an ‘aging’ man is his devotion to his wife/longterm partner and family.
      At least that’s the case for me.
      The married men I know who are faithful and apparently in love with their spouses who adore their families are so damned sexy and admirable.

    • mp says:

      mmm, I don’t think that’s fair to Vanessa, she deserves better, don´t you think?

      • elle says:

        I do! I hope they don’t get back together… she deserves better than taking care of this bloated wreck.

  9. Pinky says:

    If you really are controlling and keep someone from their parent, or can’t get along with them under the same compound (not roof in this case) he will resent you later.

    This was always going to be the outcome and Depp has only himself to blame. He couldn’t convert Heard, who really is more into women than men–into Angelina 2.0. This chick ain’t got the chops or the sense or the, at times, selflessness. Angelina transcended her movie fame and became so much more. Brangelina these guys could never be.


    • Erinn says:

      But here’s the thing – he’s a grown man. If he wanted to see his mother, he could have.

      • Kitten says:

        Yeah but it’s incredibly difficult to maintain a normal, close relationship with your mother if she hates your SO. It sounds like it strained their relationship pretty badly.

        Personally, I couldn’t do it–that would be a deal-breaker for me. Of course, that’s easy for me to say because I would never seriously date a guy that I knew my mom wouldn’t like. Admittedly, I’ve casually dated a few that I’m pretty certain both of my parents would have hated lol.

      • Wren says:

        When two people you love hate each other, it’s very difficult. You’re put in the middle, and each one tries to get you to side with them while feeling bitter that you haven’t. Of course he could see his mother whenever he wanted, but knowing that doing so would make both women unhappy, it’s tough.

        “I can’t believe you married that terrible woman! You should dump her, she’s just using you.”

        “You need to stick up for me to your mother, she’s so mean to me! It’s not fair her turning you against me, I’m your wife!”

        Imagine living with that.

      • Pinky says:

        @LOLADOESTHEHULA I’ve explained myself several times already. Just because something might be a stereotype, doesn’t mean it cannot apply in certain cases. You seem to be reading things into my comments that aren’t there, so I don’t think it’s fruitful to continue the discussion.


      • isabelle says:

        Which leads me to think TMZ is running on pure gossip. Betty Sue didn’t sound like a weeping violet, don’t think she would allow it.


      @Pinky, how on earth do you know that she’s more into women than men? I usually enjoy your comments, but I hate comments like these.

      Amber Heard always brings out the most disheartening biphobia in some posters here. Yours is the mildest example I’ve seen, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. This (& the misogyny) is one of the reasons I’m finding this site more and more toxic and reading it less.

      People here have called her a former lesbian (Biphobia!). A faux lesbian (Biphobia!) Insinuated she was feigning interest in women for attention or to seem artsy (Biphobia!). Insinuated that she’d cheat on her husband with a woman (’cause slutty, confused bisexuals, amirite?).

      It’s ugly and bigoted. Please stop it.

      • TheSage says:

        I thought it was Amber herself who said she was a lesbian.

      • Pinky says:

        @LOLADOESTHEHULA I think you need to calm down. There’s no problem with leaning one way or another. It’s from her own experiences and history that I’ve drawn that conclusion. And things she herself has said. It’s sort of ridiculous to suggest that if one leans one way more than another and someone points it out, that it’s “biphobia.” I haven’t come to the same conclusion about Angelina Jolie, who has had relationships with both men and women. Or Anna Paquin. I’m not part-time or selectively “biphobic” depending on who the celebrity is. I’m just following their actions and what they say about themselves.

        Depp pursued Amber like nobody’s business and, in my opinion, ignored what her true feelings were. All of her reluctance to marry him, all of her misgivings and delays–she was telling him from the start that this wasn’t going to work (for myriad reasons). And it didn’t.


      • AliceToo says:

        There are tons of examples of people in showbiz who claim to be bisexual, just for the shock value, which equates to free press. Way back in the day Madonna did exactly the same…once. She’s clearly not bisexual but she sure got a lot of press for it, as did her friend. Calling that cynical, ok. Biphobia, not really. Somewhere like Hollywood where beautiful women are everywhere, it’s not out of the question that some people look to make themselves appear different than the 100 other blond starlets in the room.

        Former lesbian? No such thing. People are what they are and I’d like to ask anyone who thinks different to ask themselves if they remember the moment they sat down and DECIDED what their sexual orientation was going to be. Yeah…no one else did that either.

      • Pinky says:

        Also, as an anecdote, a friend of mine, who is a lesbian, asked me if I thought she was bi because, on occasion, she would sleep with men when she was lonely or just DTF. I asked her if she would prefer to be with a woman at those times. She said yes, so I told her I did not think she was bi, just open. So for me, discussing that someone is open to relationships with men and women, but leans one way or another, isn’t an insult to any person of any sexuality. It’s actually about accepting who people actually are and not discounting their real feelings or leanings. If, as so many people suggest, sexuality is a spectrum, why is it an insult to suggest someone is father on one end of the spectrum than another?


      • Aarika says:

        I think folks sling those “phobia” accusations way to freely these days. I didn’t detect any biphobia in what @Pinky said. It DOES seem from what we know of Amber that she may be leaning more towards women than men, heck even the People PR plant implied that she was dating girls exclusively before Johnny, how is it bigoted to discuss that? It goes to show you that despite all the progress that have been made how sensitive talks of sexuality still is.

      • LadyWish says:

        You’re right about the biphobia on some of these posts – I saw a bunch like the ones you mentioned on the other post. I don’t think this particular one is problematic – as in, biphobic. Yes, it is completely possible to lean one way or another. I’m not straight myself – I identify as more… sexually fluid. My personal leanings towards which gender I’m most attracted to change – sometimes day to day – and other times, I’m equally attracted to the entire gender spectrum. I don’t think it’s a stretch that Amber prefers women, in general. I’m not sure what proof Pinky has of that (not saying she’s lying, I just don’t really keep up with Amber, at all. Though I was surprised when she started dating Johnny – she did seem really into her girlfriend; I guess somethings just aren’t meant to be) but, again, it is possible for a person to lean one way or another, but still I identify as bisexual.


        @Pinky, I’m plenty calm, thanks. Firstly, are you putting biphobia/biphobic in quotaion marks because you think it doesn’t exist or…? Secondly, t’s not what you said but the context in which it was said. You seemed to be implying that one of the reasons her marriage ended was because she was pining for women. Otherwise what’s the relevance of that little tidbit? That’s actually one of the oldest biphobic stereotypes out there. I lean more to one gender too, but it would be ridiculous & incorrect to imply that I’m not fully committed in my relationships with women because I lean a bit more towards men.

        @alicetoo, I’m sorry but that’s a pitiful excuse. It’s been used by every single bigot ever, since the dawn of time. Some [insert race] steal, therefore it’s ok to assume that every [insert race] person is a thief? See how that works? That assumption has never been limited to famous people, by the way, regular bisexual women are accused of faking bisexuality for attention/to titillate men ALL the time.


        @Pinky, the only way you’d know that it applied in this particular case would be if she said so. The fact that the first assumption you jumped to was a biphobic stereotype is suspect. Bias can be implicit, ya know.

        I found none of your explanations convincing, and you clearly feel the same about mine, so you’re right, this discussion ain’t going anywhere. Have a nice day.

      • JenniferJustice says:

        I think she was pining for sex …period! Any sex! I can’t imagine she’s been very “active” with the bloated Edward Scissorhands as he appears in that header photo.

      • saras says:

        Not sure why some of the bisexuals on this thread are so sensitive about Amber as the comments are not anti lgbt in any way. In my day we had to fight and protect lgbt friends and the lgbt clubs were literally underground. We had queer patrol to help stop hate crimes and many could not be open let alone marry. We carried weapons and walked with ciggaretes to burn anyone who got to close to accost us going in or out. Be glad those days are mostly over!

  10. The New Classic says:

    Everyone knows for d@mn sure she was the one itching to get down the aisle. In my mind, her asking for spousal support proves it. Johnny has been such a sad mess once getting with this woman I hope he rebounds in an astoundingly positive way once she’s out of his life. That would definitely be the best revenge and a clean, happy, healthy Johnny would make me and his thousands of fans so happy.

    Also to add: wasn’t the official line that Lily Rose and Jack loved their cool, young, hip step mom? Now the story changes?

    • Lindy79 says:

      Yep the spousal support for a 15 month marriage is the giveaway for me too. You’re entitled to nothing of the sort in my opinion, I mean people rightly criticised Kaley Cuoco’s ex for asking the same thing so…yeah she can go whistle looking for it for 15 months, this is not a woman who gave up her career to raise a family, if anything her profile benefited from him.

      I also think that while the paperwork etc was probably agreed on long before his mother died…who the hell does she have working for her that they allowed her to announce it 2 days after his mother died?? Could they not have thought, ok lets separate and we’ll announce in a few weeks when the dust settles. In which case, it will come out as she doesnt look good unless she has an ace up her sleeve.

      • Lucy2 says:

        Yes, this isn’t that different from Kaley Cuoco’s short-lived marriage. And neither deserves to hit the divorce lottery.
        Totally agree Amber was the one who wanted to get married, she wanted to be Mrs. Johnny Depp, and imagined great career success coming with that. No one cared though!
        I too remember articles about her getting along with his kids, People mag fiction I guess. Sounds to me like they and the rest of his family saw right through her from the beginning.

      • Jegede says:


        Before Depp, Heard was staging multiple paps shots in LA garages, in full on make up, just to garner attention.

        Her talk of independence, sense of self and person, who “challenges the rules” was all part of that narrative to her fake personage.

        The magazine covers and MET Gala invites, she very happily embraced only came after Depp.
        Not because she was in anyone’s radar in her capacity.
        She should pay him!

        Her appearances on Fallon et. al showed how much of a chraisma vacuum she is.

      • Kitten says:

        I love “charisma vacuum”. lol That’s such a perfect descriptor for her.

      • Alex says:

        Agreed 15 months? Good luck with that. I’m also laughing because he hasn’t really done any BIG pictures while they were married yet she just signed a big DC contract and is filming. So yea she won’t make out as well as she wanted to regardless.
        But good luck Amber I could rarely remember your name anyway

      • Wren says:

        I remember reading awhile back that she’d play all kinds of mind games with him and mess with his head. He pursued her, yes, but because she wanted him to. Her appearances around the time were weird for a woman “not sure about this”. Maybe she did get cold feet when the whole idea of marriage hit her, but the promise of a career boost and fame was too much to resist. She probably thought she wouldn’t have to do much and would be freer to live her life but Johnny was serious about the whole thing. Then the reality of constantly wrangling a drunk man wearing ten scarves really sank in and she couldn’t handle it anymore.

    • Gin says:

      Not sure about that. Depp proposed to pretty much every woman he ever dated. He asked VP to marry him many times and she was the one that wasn’t keen, they’re both in the record as saying that. He is clearly the marrying kind and hasn’t been single in the entire time he’s been famous.

    • SloaneY says:

      This. I don’t believe for one second that Depp, who never even married Paradis, who seemed to be the love of his life, was just itching to get married. I think she said you marry me or I’m leaving. She’s a gold digger of the highest order.

  11. guest says:

    She’s going to get a lot of money which is sad, I feel bad for Johnnny. I just hope it doesn’t turn out he was abusing her or she accuses him of something like that.
    His mom just died, I don’t know how could deal with a divorce and a death.

    • ElasticBean says:

      I agree, she couldn’t even wait a few weeks?
      There is no need to do it 2 bloody days after he lost his mum. And for his kids as well to loose a grandparent and deal with this news. As much as I don’t like who he has become, poor bugger Johnny.

    • Sometimes a death triggers the divorce. You find out that person you married isn’t quite as wonderful and supportive as you thought they were.

    • Jegede says:

      For what its worth. From a poster called AustinTexas:

      “Again, Amber is from here. But nobody likes her. She grew up as a complete brat, spoiled by her dad, and she’s always acted that same way. She is just consistently a very rude, conceited person to be around. We figured the dating thing would be short-lived. But when they announced their engagement, a lot of us wanted to tell him not to do it. But, it wasn’t our place. You either like Johnny or you don’t. And we chalked this marriage up to maybe a mid-life crisis of sorts. But, he sacrificed a lot to try and make her happy and cater to her needs. Johnny’s just the type to see the best in people and give them the benefit of the doubt, which is what he did with her.
      There are some of us that aren’t the least bit surprised she’s filing for divorce. We didn’t see this marriage lasting, and feel this is a HUGE blessing in disguise for JD. We care more about how Johnny is taking the loss of his Mom. They were always so close. It’ll take him some time to get over this or his best to get past it as well as one can.

      It only shows poor taste and poor character on her part that she would hit him with a divorce, just days after his Mom died. She wanted him to be involved with her family, or more her Dad, but she really didn’t want to be involved with Johnny’s family. For her, this was a marriage for money and the exposure to have a famous actor husband. Luckily, they got married in California where the laws are different. She’ll get some money for spousal support, but only so much for a short period. Or by law, that’s what she’s entitled to. She’s certainly not broke in her own right, but she will go after all she can get. And maybe she can live on that. Johnny is very well-liked and respected in the movie business. She is not. So, could be safe to say that she did just get herself blackballed to an extent. And I don’t feel the least bit sorry for her.”

      • Kitten says:

        I mean…I take comments like this with grain of salt, but there’s a few indisputable truths in there, particularly the part about Johnny being very well-liked in the business.

        Who knows if he really spoiled Amber and tried to please her all the time, but that is certainly in-line with all the stories and personal anecdotes we’ve heard about Johnny. By all accounts, he’s a super-nice guy and a people-pleaser by nature. When he was here in Boston filming Black Mass there were so many stories shared on social media about Johnny signing autographs, tipping 50% on restaurant bills, and using his free time not to hide in his trailer but to mingle with the locals.

        In regards to Amber, I try to give her the benefit of the doubt, but the fact that we never hear anything good about her is hard to ignore, particularly when contrasted against Johnny’s reputation.

      • Jegede says:

        That’s the sad thing of Depp’s reputation.

        Depp is legitimately well liked.

        He, George Clooney and Keanu Reeves have one of the best reps in the business for being down to earth and polite.

      • Kitten says:

        I think that’s why I’ll always have such a soft spot for him, Jegede. That, and Edward Scissorhands ;)

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I question the idea that someone could both be from her hometown, know her while she was growing up, and also know Johnny so well that they know about his sacrifices and how he always sees the best in people.

      • Kate says:

        I’d tend to believe she’s not a very nice person, if only because that’s Johnny’s type. He’s lovely to fans, very generous, always respectful to staff, always up for helping out a charity. The women he dates though…Kate Moss can be very rude and Vanessa is just horrible and mean, the kind of person who makes sales assistants cry just for kicks (she’s seriously banned from more than a couple of Paris boutiques because the staff refuse to tolerate her). Winona seems to have turned herself around, but in the past she could be pretty unpleasant, albeit in a quieter way.

      • Flowerchild says:

        @ Jegede that’s not completely true George Clooney, Keanu Reeves, Brad Pitt and other have a great reputation for being down to earth and polite. Johnny Depp not so much he gets mix comments, when it comes to interview and promotion it been said by a lot of people that he’s hours late and comes in with a big entourage. Now when it comes to the film crew he working with his great.

  12. what's inside says:

    Golddigger strikes it rich. Will she do one of those reality ex-wives shows? Johnny’s life will roll on until the bitter end.

  13. jinni says:

    She has always been cool with People mag. They have always run stories to make her look good. People have always thought that it was Johnny that okay’d the piece over to People mag that threw Vanessa under the bus during their break up, but if you actually read the piece it didn’t paint him in a good light. Just look at how many people still bring up that piece as a reason why they hate him. It alleged that he messed with numerous women, even his publicist. Now if People mag works with publicists to keep control of a clients image, what publicist would actually okay that he was a dog in the marriage and that she was the other woman, which was the rumor at the time? Also, Johnny has sued and made People mag retract the most recent story they put out about him going back to rehab, so there is obviously no love between he/his team and People mag.

    I have always thought that Amber was behind that break up piece and the fact that People mag is working with her now to spin things in her favor only makes me believe it more.

    • Zapp Brannigan says:

      I thought Johnny worked with US magazine to throw Vanessa under the bus during their split so whatever to Amber working with People magazine, Johnny is great friends with the publisher of US mag, no? Or at least that was the gossip in some corners.

    • roses says:

      Yeah his relationship with People magazine is definitely not a good one, so I definitely knew they would be her mouthpiece for something like this.

    • Liz says:

      YES!!! This^^^^^^ Amber has been working with People all this time, just for this very moment.
      Johnny’s team side swiped her. Including the Vanessa slam piece. She had to make sure it was out that they were OVER.

      How does that bus feel now Amber? Your new friends can’t help you no matter how many stories they print. LOL

  14. Elsa says:

    I’m with Johnny’s side.The fact that she is asking for spousal support while she is in the bussiness and in DC cinematic universe proves that she is 100% a gold digger.What happened to your ”independence” Amber?Weren’t you saying that you needed nobody to support you?And not let me getting started with the timing:Johnny’s mother passing,Alice 2 opening,Lily Rose’s birthday in 2 days and his band’s tour kickoff.This is a woman who only cares for herself.I once believed that she loved him at some point but all the facts show that she never did.Fortunately for Johnny,he already shows some improvement looks wise and his band tour will help him cope with the whole situation.

    • says:

      …and you make me reconsider her asking for divorce so soon after his mother passed : It was a birthday present for Lily Rose! See, she actually was being nice!

    • Liz says:

      +1000 Elsa. She chose this week to hit him before his film opening. He knew she would do it so he just sat in wait.

  15. kiki says:

    I knew it. When I first saw Amber Heard, I thought this is a stuck up b*tch who is using Johnny Depp for money and the fame she desperately wanted. I knew this was going to end up in splits. Do I feel bad for Johnny Depp? Absolutely not, if he would’ve stayed with his girlfriend and married her for 14 years this wouldn’t have happened.

    Amber Heard is a GOLD-DIGGER. She wants fame and fortune, instead of working hard to be a legitimate actress and go to acting school, she would have by herself. Instead she married and slimed her way with Johnny Depp.

    Forgive for saying, I don’t like divorce but I love a juicy dysfunctional trainwreck. Keep it coming STUPID HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES. Keep it coming. Now if only, I give my bets on another couple who uses PR to promote their “love” for the media? Uhmmm.

  16. Luca76 says:

    Ugh this is so messy Johnny breaks my heart but he walked straight into that brick wall with eyes blurry I bet but open.
    I think she’s just nasty enough to not realize how awful she is breaking up with him just days after his mom’s death, and egotistical to think she doesn’t need JD anymore and will be huge without him. Poor girl has the charisma of a dish rag.

  17. kibbles says:

    Her acting career is in the dumps and she doesn’t have the talent to get ahead on her own, but she will be set for life after this divorce. No prenup? Haha. She will take him to the cleaners. Not bad for 15 months of marriage to a washed up old man dealing with a mid-life crisis. If I were his children and his ex I’d be furious though. All those millions going to Heard should have been for his children.

  18. Snappyfish says:

    Well I guess since she is so “literate” as Depp refered to her so we would know now smart she was, she can read the settlement papers she will receive. Lots of big numbers & words to be found there.

    V v cold to drop papers right after mothers death though. I always felt sad for him during this relationship as it just made him seem grasping furiously for youth & that was pathetic. I think if everyone you care about dislikes your spouse that might have been an indication to tread lightly or at least have a prenup

  19. grabbyhands says:

    Man, mid life crises are awkward and embarrassing, aren’t they? And they never seem to end well for anyone.

    While, her hustle is straight out of the Gold Digger’s Handbook, I think it is silly to completely absolve him of responsibility in this whole mess-he chose to leave his partner and hook up with a young woman and then take her as a trophy wife. He got his props out of parading here around as proof of his virility. However much she may have manipulated him, they both were using this to their (real or imagined) advantage.

    Having said THAT, I hope the judge shoots down her spousal support claim, cause that shiz is ridiculous. While I’m sure marrying him didn’t raise her profile quite as much as she’s hoped, she still managed to parlay it into a part in the new DC universe, and that should pay the bills quite nicely.

  20. Livvers says:

    (Apologies for length) Maybe I’m a fool for being such a shades-of-grey thinker, but the “evidence” is so strong against Amber, I kind of want to stick up for her, I guess play “devil’s advocate” though in general I hate it when people do that! Like the mom thing? What if Johnny’s mom was ill and mean and that put a strain on their relationship? It would be very hard to live with someone who hated your guts but was also dying. Very conflicting emotions.

    Why do we think Amber was a conniving grasping manipulator and Johnny her victim, without acknowledging the HUGE power imbalance between the two (we were more generous to Katie Holmes, who was in a similar situation)?

    I agree that “cold” is the most likely read on her divorce filing timing, but powerful Hollywood people often determine jointly who will file first and when for the best PR and with financial incentives. Is it possible Johnny’s legal team played inexperienced and proud Amber somehow so her filing would blow up in her face? Or it was an agreed upon timing (for some incentive to her) and he held her to it?

    Not sure if Amber deserves my benefit of the doubt, but it’s how I would want to be judged in this situation so I’ll just apply the golden rule for my own peace of mind.

    • Luca76 says:

      Sorry no I can’t absolve Amber of the timing. Unless JD was actually tortouring or abusing her she should have waited a few weeks at least out of decency. I think he was probably a drunken, drugged up mess the whole time they were together but she’s proved she never cared about him except for how he could help her career.

    • Naya says:

      I’m in the same boat. I really dont see the gold digger red flags everyone is pointing at. It is possible that she is the most evil woman to ever walk into a bar but how likely is that. In any case, filing for divorce at this point only entitles her to the portion he made while they were together which is just over a year. That by itself tells me theres a lot more happening here.

      • tealily says:

        Which is very true. Maybe they had worked it out previously that she would file before Alice opened so that he could retain that money. They aren’t holding the opening because his mom died.

    • jinni says:

      When one takes in account that Johnny was in the grip of an addiction when they first got together I would not say he had the advantage/ all the power, when he was the mentally impaired one in the relationship.

      What kind of a even person gets with someone that is obviously addicted? Enablers and predators, that’s who. Please don’t say she was trying to save him when he only got worst once they were officially a couple. She was more concerned with him taking her to all of these events that he had never before been seen at (ex. Broadway opening for Cabaret. the Met Gala, Art of Elysium, etc) to get her photo taken, get her names in the papers, and mingle with people that could potential get her career where she wanted it to be. So, no she wasn’t trying to help him.

      How is she in the same boat as Holmes? Last I checked Johnny wasn’t in a cult that was keeping Amber from escaping. So where is the comparison.

      • Kitten says:

        Do people really think that Amber wasn’t doing drugs and drinking right alongside Johnny?
        People can’t be that naïve, can they?

        Just look at the pictures of her FFS. Girl is stoned as hell.

        I don’t know if she was a predator but she was absolutely an enabler. I’ve been there and I know how it goes. It’s easy to bond over drugs and even easier to convince yourself that the other person doesn’t have a problem because admitting he does have a problem means that you have to stop using too.

      • Livvers says:

        Charlie Sheen has been an addict and mentally unstable for years and yet he had plenty of people in Hollywood enabling and supporting and turning a blind eye to his abusive behaviour, and don’t tell me Brooke Mueller or his “goddesses” or whoever that last fiancee was had more power than he did (money, influence, etc.) in the relationship. I wouldn’t say that just because someone abuses substances, they don’t still have plenty of power to determine the direction of a relationship.

      • jinni says:

        @Kitten: She looked really high during the red carpet for The Danish Girl, you know the one where she was wearing that suit outfit.

        @Livvers: It’s amazing how people are already trying to paint him up as an abuser just because he is the man in the relationship. Even though she has come out of this looking better and in a better position when this is over. While has been looking like he is dying since being in this relationship and she has not enhanced his career/ image at all. So it’s easy for me to she how she had the upperhand in this set up than he did.

      • Jegede says:

        But its been confirmed that Brooke Mueller was right there abusing substances alongside him.

        If I remember correctly she had even worse drug induced hazes than Charlie, which is why her boys were taken away from her.

      • Kitten says:

        @ Livvers-Johnny Depp is NOT Charlie Sheen, not by a longshot. There are plenty of functional addicts in Hollywood to compare Johnny too, let’s not contrast him against the worst of the worst.

        Put it this way: addicts who were abusive people before they started using will simply become more abusive when they’re on substances. Likewise, people who aren’t prone to abuse or physical/emotional violence don’t suddenly become abusive monsters just because they’re using drugs. Sure, it can sometimes happen if they’re abusing hard uppers like meth, but it’s not the standard and perpetuating this idea that all addicts are abusive is just further stigmatizing the disease.

        Also, it’s unfair to paint Depp as some raging abusive alcoholic who’s been abusing poor innocent Amber, especially when we have ZERO proof of that. Come on now.

        That being said, Depp isn’t a vegetable and he knew what he was getting into. I don’t believe that Amber is the villain here but I DO believe that these two were a toxic combination. I tend view these scenarios like this: neither is to blame and BOTH are to blame. In other words, no need to demonize anyone here, but the end of this relationship is for the best.

        And on a personal note, I hope Amber doesn’t get a dime. Sorry not sorry.

      • Livvers says:

        I guess what I am saying is that just because the most powerful person in the relationship also abuses substances, that does not negate the fact that they still hold most of the power. And when both people are abusing substances, and one person has all the power and influence and money, then wouldn’t the less rich, less established, the “hanger-on” if you will, still have less power? I mean yes, there are instances where the powerful substance-user is manipulated, but that is more often found when a star has an exploitive management team. Isn’t it far more likely that no matter how much influence Amber may have had over Johnny, he still had a huge team invested in protecting him — monetarily, legally, image-wise, etc. — from “the worst” she could do? A team ready to undermine her position with him whenever they could, and ready to jump into action to destroy her the minute Johnny finally gave the word?

      • Livvers says:

        @jinni and @Kitten. Apologies if my example of Charlie Sheen made it seem like I was implying Depp was an abuser; I should have thought about how inflammatory a comparison it would be! The idea that Depp is anything more than a guy who likes his booze and who initially liked the excitement of Heard’s drama never entered my mind, and so I totally missed how the comparison would come across. I merely meant to use a publicly knowable example of a substance-impaired and unstable Hollywood star to show how they can still have influence and power in a relationship, even with another person whose motivations are venal.

      • Kitten says:

        @ Livvers-I think your analysis of the power disparity is probably pretty accurate, but I also think that Amber knew this going into it. It’s possible that she didn’t quite realize just HOW powerful his PR people are, but she definitely knows the game.
        At the same time, she experienced both sides of that double-edged sword. I doubt she was complaining when Johnny’s team was protecting her and spinning their relationship as *true love* and Amber as The Next Big Thing while painting Vanessa as vindictive and jealous.

        As I said, I think this relationship was doomed from the starts. Hopefully they at least learned something from it…

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “Please don’t say she was trying to save him when he only got worst once they were officially a couple.”

        I think it is really wrong to blame another person for an addict’s substance abuse. Additionally, they met during Rum Diaries, and clearly he was a much healthier person then. Additionally, many addicts hide the extent of their problems from a person when they are just starting a relationship together.

      • jinni says:

        @Tiffany :My comment was not to say she is the cause for his addiction. I know that he has had issues for most of his life long before she showed up. Just that there is no way that she was doing anything to get him help since at no time in their relationship did he look like he was doing better/ sobering up and in fact he only looked to get worst. I was just trying to prevent the person I was responding to from trying to paint her up as someone that thought they could save him from himself when that was obviously not her intention when they got together.

        Also, no, I’m not saying it was her responsibility to save him. Just that if you got with someone that has addiction issues when you got with them wouldn’t the decent thing to do be to try and help them? Cause I don’t see how going to parties were booze are available and events that involve being seen when you know your SO has anxiety are helpful.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “Just that there is no way that she was doing anything to get him help since at no time in their relationship did he look like he was doing better/ sobering up”

        From my perspective, I don’t see how you can make this determination. Just because Johnny didn’t do the work to get sober, doesn’t mean nothing was done to try and help get him there. With addiction, results do not reflect the efforts of the family members involved. For example, getting an addict to a meeting with an addiction specialist can be an impossible challenge. Ultimately, no matter how much you love someone or how much you try, you can’t force someone to get sober. They have to take steps on their own.

        In new relationships, most addicts hide their addictions at first. A person can think their new love likes to drink and party to the same extent they do…and then they find out that they can’t stop. A person might try to rationalize the behavior, but then comes the point when they see how serious it is.

        I just don’t think we should make Amber responsible for Depp’s behavior.

      • Kitten says:

        “Additionally, many addicts hide the extent of their problems from a person when they are just starting a relationship together.”

        Tiffany, with all due respect, this is Johnny freaking Depp we’re talking about. Unless she was living under a rock, she knew he was an addict. Remember that addiction is a CHRONIC illness-it’s an ongoing battle. An addict doesn’t cease to become an addict just because he’s currently sober.

        So maybe he was telling her that he was on the wagon but she absolutely knew that there was the potential for him to relapse. Additionally, there have been countless rumors about Amber’s drug use. While I agree that Amber isn’t responsible for Johnny’s addiction or his sobriety, anybody with a modicum of addiction awareness would know a relationship made up of one person who is trying to stay sober and another who is using is absolutely doomed.

        Maybe Amber naively thought Johnny could use drugs recreationally like she does and not spiral out of control, maybe she thought he could handle his sh*t, but there is no way that she didn’t know about Johnny’s baggage, no way.

        Also, while I can agree that no single person is responsible for another person’s addiction, there are people who are just NOT good for addicts.

        Look, there’s a reason why addicts often get permanently cut off from contact with friends when they enter treatment programs. It’s not because those people are the cause of that person’s addiction, it’s because those people are entirely intertwined with the addict’s history of using. These are the people the addict used with or bought drugs from. That’s an imperative part of recovery: cutting off contact with people who may put you at a risk for relapse and that is Amber in this situation. So yes it’s a form of enabling, even if she didn’t know the extent that he was using, even if she didn’t think he had a problem (which.. come on) and even if she wasn’t putting the drugs or alcohol in his hands.

        I’m sorry because you know I like you and generally agree with you but I think in your desire to stick up for Amber, you’re giving her WAY too much credit.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        I am not so much giving her credit, as I am giving Johnny responsibility for his own public intoxication.

        I don’t think he was thought of as an “addict” during his more successful times. I think he was presented as someone who likes to drink, but not to the point where it interfered with him doing his work, etc. Look at photos from the Rum Diaries, when they met. He was so much healthier looking. He’s gone down hill so far in 5 years. I don’t recall a time when he said he was “on the wagon”…that would require him admitting he had a problem from which he was abstaining. So entering the relationship, she might of thought “he drinks and smokes, I drink and smoke”. Naïve perhaps, but they formed their relationship when they were working together. He probably kept it together pretty well for work reasons. She probably saw him at his best.

        If she was causing him to relapse and supplying him, I don’t see why she would leave. Her filing for divorce paints more of a picture that she was trying to get him to stop using. I do think that the “caretaker” role is a form of enabling, but it is very different from that of the person who supplies the substance.

        I’m not a fan of Amber’s by any means, I just think that directing the blame at her is not reasonable. She’s leaving him, which says a lot about her perspective. If she was a gold digger or enabler, she would just stay on until the tragic end.
        (PS, not need to be sorry for disagreeing with me. We’re human it will happen, not taking it personally! :) )

      • SilkyMalice says:

        Hey Kitten, I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. Yes, she clearly is stoned in these photos, and she probably did use with him. But I know I drank too much when married to my alcoholic ex because it was a hell of a lot easier than fighting him on it. I’m not going to automatically assume that Amber did drugs and drank like Johnny did – in fact it seems like she spent a lot of time trying to track his sorry butt down when he was on a bender. I think she tried to take care of him, and just ended up enabling him.

    • Erinn says:

      I’m with you. The quote that got me was:

      “Our sources say Amber had 2 closed door sit-downs with Johnny’s mom after she moved in, and after both meetings Betty Sue railed on her daughter-in-law, calling her a ‘terrible person.’”

      What the literal f***? So his mother constantly was saying how much she hated her, and telling her friends how awful she was. Then the old bitty moves in with them, and has CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS? What the hell is that?

      Sounds like mommy dearest was pissed that her alcoholic loser son was too busy with booze and his new wife to be bothered to visit as much as she liked, and she took it out on Amber because HER BABY couldn’t possibly be the problem.

      Say what you will about gold-digging – but nobody deserves to have a mother in law treating you like that. It’s insane.

      • jinni says:

        His mother was actually seen hanging out with her several times at Ago. This woman was on oxygen, do you really think if she hated Amber so much she’d be wasting her energy to hang with someone she hated? Honestly this whole “his family hated her” thing sounds like more spin form Amber’s side to lessen the side eye about filing a few days after his mother died. What better way to explain why one would do something so cold-blooded then to imply that the died person was a bitch?

      • Livvers says:

        I don’t know anything specific about Johnny’s mother, but in my imagination the dynamic is similar to Leo and his mom, or Bradley Cooper and his. They can get along with any number of their son’s girlfriends, but somehow the idea of a marriage license upsets the balance. There are so many mothers like this — not “a bitch” to pretty much every else, but prone to harbouring resentment towards their son’s significant other, esp. when it’s official — that it doesn’t seem much of a reach.

        That sort of dynamic is just so unknowable outside our own lives, I think it is plenty possible Amber may truly believe Johnny’s mom was a bitch, Johnny’s mom was in fact a nice person in general, and yet her and Amber’s relationship turned toxic for any number of reasons, and it is possible both women may have shared the blame.

      • Susan says:

        I read that quote from the article opposite to how you did. I read it as *Amber* caused the closed door meetings after *she* moved in. And Johnny’s mother railed about her to *others* after the meetings were over (presumably because Amber was a bitch to her). Granted, it’s a poorly written paragraph but I don’t think it’s right to assume the mother was the bad actor in that case.

    • CornyBlue says:

      I mean if the mom hated her and Johny was a shit to her by the end if i was in her position I would not care too.

      • Trashaddict says:

        Well, I just thought of another possibility. Maybe Amber actually would’ve divorced Johnny sooner but she liked the old lady and didn’t want to traumatize her when she was sick. Once his mom died, nothing to hold her in the relationship and out she went.

  21. sushi says:

    OK/intouch will have the insider ‘Angelina Jolie is the reason for the Depp Amber break up’.

  22. Jenns says:

    This is what happens when two, hot messes collide.

  23. Juniper says:

    She deserves ALL the money for putting up with Depp’s general hygiene. I mean just – ewww.

  24. dinalohanismyidol says:

    This won’t get messy, because depp’s failing popularity and career cannot afford anything like a public & bitter to the bone divorce. He will pay. Miserably.

    Then he will try hard to end her career by using his influence. What Amber needs is a hot new bf or gf – like right now. If she maintains and generates the requisite buzz, she will remain in demand.

    • Dangles says:

      Kristen Stewart?

    • Luca76 says:

      He really doesn’t have to try to end her career. Have you seen her on screen? The only thing she had going for her was being Mrs Depp. And I suspect that will remain her claim to fame. She has the long term career prospects of Jessica Biel.

      • Virgilia Coriolanus says:

        IMO, she’s WORSE than Jessica Biel. I can watch Jessica in some stuff…….Amber has been awful in just about everything I’ve seen her in, except Rum Diary. Even then, she was slightly less awful in her scenes with Johnny……and they were actually hot together.

  25. Tiffany says:

    Its all about timing. Alice and Pirates need to make bank. If there is a quick, settlement, Amber will keep the mudslinging to a minimum until the press is over for the films.

  26. Mira says:

    He wants to marry everyone he dates so i could see it being his idea initially. But the line that she just couldn’t say no to depp because of who he is, screams gold digger. That sounds like someone who married someone for status not love. Also super cool hipster my ass.
    Hopefully he can clean up now and stop looking for love amongst thirsty blonde starlets half his age.

  27. Samtha says:

    They both seem like assholes.

  28. Carol says:

    I think quite a few ladies have said no to Johnny.

  29. Sarah01 says:

    He created this mess, I’m not as harsh on Amber. She probably idolized him and thought this mega movie star will help my career too. It’s no biggie, they both got what they wanted. For me I think if she really was a true gold digger she would’ve had a baby, and stuck it out longer.
    I think she just didn’t want to deal with him anymore, i think she genuinely wants ti have a career and this will teach other new actresses. To make it on your own, do the small roles, learn and master your craft and hopefully you’ll get success.
    Hollywood is a cesspool of men taking advantage of women and children. I can see maybe she thought I’ll be married to Johnny that’ll keep the vipers at bay, I’ll get exposure to diffident people, I get to be with this really cool guy and I’ll have it made.
    Johnny is a fool, there’s no fool like and old fool! I really think she’s not as bad as people are making out to be, he was a willing participant.

    • Guesto says:

      Agree on all counts. I think he’s a complete mess and would have been a nightmare to live with. And really not liking the way this ‘poor Johnny – callous Amber’ story is been spun by his PR.

      And re his mother, didn’t he do the exact same thing with Vanessa, saying she hated his mother and citing it as one of the reasons why they split up?

    • isabelle says:

      He is a 50 something year old male and had a longterm family. He played the mid-life crisis card and lost. He was an idiot.

  30. joanne says:

    at least Amber won’t have to worry about not making eye contact with the peasants now. without Johnny Depp, no one will know who she is or care. she’s just another pretty blonde with little talent.

  31. Snowpea says:

    I thought that was Leann ‘Stinky’ Rimes in the header pic!

  32. Izzy says:

    At least he had the sense to hire Wasser.

  33. Brittney says:

    Amber’s family was never happy about this union, either… except her PMK-style mom.

    • jinni says:

      Then why was her Dad always hanging around him? Her dad gave a interview and said he was happy about the union and made a big deal about how in love they were. He also said the Johnny was the closest he’d ever get to meeting Hunter S Thompson. The man sounded more enamored with Depp than his own daughter.

      If her mom was such a pimp, why did Amber talk down to her in front of cameras on the red carpet?

  34. Dana says:

    I can’t stop laughing about the “cool hipster chick” part. Maybe ’cause I’m old, I’ve never ever thought hipsters were cool. And would a hipster even be in People? People is definitely not “cool”.

    • Christin says:

      Agree. People was ‘cool’ in the late 1970s-1980s. It jumped the shark some time ago.

      Cool hipster chick is almost like a dating ad. “Hey guys and gals, I’m available and soon to have some major bucks!”

    • laura in LA says:

      Not just “cool hipster chick”…but (DC Universe levels of) “SUPERcool”!

  35. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    Unless she wa in danger of some sort, I think it’s pretty heartless to leave so soon after he lost his mother. Just out of respect for what you once had, wouldn’t you give it a couple of weeks?

    • Christin says:

      If she felt in danger and time was of the essence, wouldn’t a protective order be filed?

      The timing is otherwise inexcusable to me. No matter how they got along, have some decency and wait until the funeral is over before serving papers.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Right? It just seems incredibly heartless.

      • Kitten says:

        I think they had the date figured out months ago and unfortunately, it just happened to coincide with his mother’s death.

  36. Jade says:

    Would be juicy if he hooked up with Winona or Helena BC.

    • Kitten says:

      How great would that be? Wino Forever.

      I sort of assume he’ll hook up with some other young C-Lister but we can still hope.

    • Gabrielle says:

      Winona was the best-looking and most talented woman he’s been with IMO.

      • Mira says:

        Didn’t she dump him?

      • Boo says:

        Yes, they were engaged and Winona broke up with him due to advice from Cher. Cher told her there was lots of time and she might be too young to marry and to wait. Seems Winona took a harder look at things and decided to end things. Sad.

        Cher meant well and that was good advice but to this day, I think Winona and Johnny were meant to be. Even now. Respect for Vanessa but I always thought she was more into Johnny for the status and money too, at least initially. Kids bonded them more than love was always my feeling.

  37. Hollz says:

    He’s the only reason I’ve even heard of her. I just checked her IMDB and I’ve seen her in two things. Zombieland, and a single episode of Criminal Minds. I haven’t even heard of most of her other projects. She’ll disappear pretty quickly without his fame to keep her in the spotlight.

    As for the timing, I feel like we can’t really say what happened. Filing three days after his mother’s death is COLD, but perhaps it wasn’t done deliberately on her part? These things are often agreed upon long before the public knows so the wheels may have already been in motion OR, like someone said above, he played her in to filing now because it’ll hurt her reputation. The fact that he responded to the filing so quickly makes me feel like either one of these options is more likely than it coming out of nowhere.

    • Kitten says:

      Yeah I can’t stand Amber but ITA with your second paragraph. I don’t think she’s that callous and like you, I assume that well in advance, they worked out an agreed-upon date to roll out the news.

    • Goldie says:

      But even if his mother hadn’t passed away, would Johnny really have wanted to file for divorce right before his movie comes out? I think they both knew that they were heading torwards a divorce, and they had both filled out the paperwork etc, but I think Amber filed earlier than they initially planned.

      • Kitten says:

        You make a good point.

      • Hollz says:

        I think he knows his fans don’t like her, so yes, I think he would want to file right before his movie comes out – it’s free publicity and it’ll make his fans happy. Win-Win.

      • laura in LA says:

        The thing is that it’s not as if Amber (or Johnny) couldn’t have instructed their high-powered lawyers to hold off on filing for just a little while longer. I mean, wouldn’t she be better off at least waiting until after his mother’s funeral?

  38. SusanneToo says:

    Sounds like a smart mom.

  39. Skins says:

    She was a nobody before they got married and she will return to being a nobody after they divorce. That said, I guess she thought she was marrying Johnny Depp, international sex symbol, not Gomez Addams

  40. Heat says:

    I’m just going to throw this out there: WINO FOREVER!!!!

  41. Java says:

    I think TMZ is now on Wasser’s payroll. Her latest clients have received a better treatment lately by them than before.

  42. Frosty says:

    Well, this is going to get interesting. There was a period when Depp was chasing Amber all over the place, and I felt at the time she was toying with him. But, maybe she really wasn’t all that into him. I feel kind of neutral about them both, but it’s safe to say Depp is the big macha in his family and it’s possible they would have felt threatened by a new relationship anyway. Finally, People – hmm. And wasn’t it People that published pics of Amber and Lily Rose shopping and a story about how Lily Rose really liked Amber? Hmmmm.

  43. Madpoe says:

    Sorry to learn Johnny lost his mom.
    Damn… cold as ice for Amber to throw divorce papers on top of that for him.

  44. Susan says:

    It’s California. For marriages less than 10 years, you are only entitled to spousal support for half the length of the marriage. So in the Depp’s case, 9 months. So it’s not a big deal at all.

    The bigger deal is she gets 50% of his employment income during that time because it’s community property. Hopefully the assets he came into the marriage with were kept separate and they should also be safe.

    It’s interesting Amber rushed to file because if she were a good gold digger, she would have held on as long as possible to increase spousal support and community property.

    Edited to clarify: I do think she’s probably a gold digger…just she could be better at it, lol.

    And she did just land that role as Aquaman’s wife (jealous of her for being near Momoa). Maybe her paycheck is big or she’s expecting other big paycheck and she didn’t want to give Johnny half?!? So she filed now? Community property works both ways.

  45. Lindsay says:

    Yesterday everyone was wondering how long it takes to do the initial paperwork to file for divorce. So I looked it up and it would take no time at all. It is three pages of checking the applicable boxes and large sections do not apply. If you are curious (Just a blank form, NOT the one Amber filed with the court:

    Also even if it was a rash emotional decision she could find numerous family law attorneys happy to file for her. It is not uncommon for people file anyd then not go through with it. There is no reason, legaly to not honor their client’s wishes. They no she can pay and they get free publicity.

    This is going to be messy, she is thirsty and a hustler and way too concerned about her public image to stay quiet even if she has to speak through anonymous sources that is only defend their poor friend from the big bad movie star. (He is a mess, flat out) I also think, in her eyes, his behaviour made her the butt of too many public, late night TV style pop culture jokes. (She seems to take herself too seriously for that to sit well with her) dealt with him as he was clearly going through both a midlife crisis and that could not have been easy or fun to deal with or even be around and in interviews she comes off a as an entitled, special snowflake and probably believes she’s earned this. She married him for money, positive exposure and to move “lists.” I am sure she won’t go down without a fight to achieve and maintain those goals.

  46. SilkyMalice says:

    Guys, seriously. Look at Johnny now. Would you want to be married to that? I can’t even look at him, tbh. Pale, sweaty, bloated and those TEETH. He is a disaster. I would run for my life too.

  47. haley1020 says:

    is sean penn available for amber? lol

  48. Tanya says:

    I think living with my mother-in-law would prompt me to divorce too.

  49. HeyThere! says:

    This means nothing to me. My MIL would say she hates me also for taking her son away. Umm, cut the cord lady. I gave you a grandkids and treat your son like a prince and you hate me?! Some things never change.

  50. thecookingpan says:

    Johnny Depp, despite an avalanche of box office flops, is still one of the richest Hollywood actors. She had her eye on the prize from the get-go. And I agree with many of the posters, I would’ve given her the benefit of the doubt had she not asked for spousal support. Because god knows she’ll need it to live as she doesn’t have talent…

    • laura in LA says:

      $400 million dollars. Is there any Hollywood franchise movie actor who’s richer than that? I had no idea his pirate movies were so lucrative. Wow.

  51. Miss S says:

    I’ve seen a timeline of their relationship and was surprise by three things: 1) they “know” each other since 2011 from the film Rum Diary and 2) Depp admited that he was the one who pursued her and 3) they broke up like after year together and it was Depp that went after her by sending her roses everyday for a while…

    IF this is true and some was shared by Depp himself, this whole narrative that she was the one who saw a career ladder in him, who was manipulative just to get her fame and money gets a bit less obvious. It’s easy to target her but I’m not so sure about her evil ways anyomre.

    • Liz says:

      Fact checking. They met in 2009 when the film was shot. it was released in 2011 and Depp says that is when they got together. He has never once admitted publicly to any of that other crap. That was all Amber’s spin to make it seem like he was smitten with her. It all came from the same sources. Every time worded exactly the same. BS.

  52. BlueSky says:

    I’m sorry but he is not appealing at all. I’m sure she thought she had hooked a fish! All that money, get your damned teeth fixed!

  53. Nefer says:

    Frankly I don’t call her any of those things I just call her vapid.

  54. JeanGenie says:

    I’ve dated addicts before. When I was young and didn’t know better I married one, and thought I could save him. I can’t imagine if he had also been a beloved movie star and thought that I could save him from his self-destructive tendencies. He probably did clean up for a while when he was “drunk on love.” Of course, that doesn’t last, but she was too young to know that.
    I’m not saying that she’s an angel or had pure motives, but he’s probably a very difficult person to love, let alone live with. This was likely bound to fail… but he’s older and more experienced — among the two of them, he should have known better.
    Or maybe he chose to ignore logic and embrace being a total romantic, hence the lack of pre-nup. Shit happens. He’s got more money than anyone could spend and now she’ll have a piece of it.

  55. Joannie says:

    They were headed for divorce the moment they said “I do”. No surprise.

  56. WendyNerd says:

    Gotta love how not seeing his mom was apparently HER fault. Not like he’s a grown man who is capable of making his own (idiotic) choices or anything.

  57. Moi says:

    I wish I could give Johnny a hug. He was so sweet to me and my family when we met him 2 days after my mother passed away. It seems like something severe must have happened and it was the last straw for AH. However, unless she already had the date set to file prior to Johnny’s mother passing away, this is extremely cold of her.

  58. Bread and Circuses says:

    I wonder if this is why their ‘Sorry for the terrierist infiltration, Australia’ video was so painfully awkward?

  59. Joannie says:

    Pitt and Jolie are next. So many articles spouting divorce.

    • isabelle says:

      That has been happening for years. Its nothing new, the papers want them divorced. Don’t think its true.

    • Yesisaidit says:

      Angelina is stuck to the hip of that woman with short dark hair that she met in London through William Hague. She is with Angelina right now in La.

    • Yesisaidit says:

      Something that the articles don’t mention is the fact that Angelina is stuck to the hip of that woman with short dark hair that she met through William Hague. She is with Angelina and her kids right now in La and has been for sometime. Where Jolie goes guarantee that woman with short dark hair is right there with her.


      • pwal says:

        Using The Globe as your crystal ball? Tsk… tsk…

      • Flowerchild says:

        Actually Angelina has been seen with two women a lot lately one blonde and one with dark hair. Both women work for William Hague and all 3 of them have also gone into business together “People” magazine had an article about it a couple of weeks ago, so thier goes that conspiracy theory.

        Not to mention Angelina was always seen with her BFF/assistant all the time too, Is she not aloud to have female friends?

        @ Isabelle I agree if the tabs don’t have them breaking up then they have them having another kid Lol nothing new there.

      • Yesesaidit says:

        Flower child, the blond who is actually her “political adviser” now is not traveling with her the way her dark haired woman is. Even when she’s just hanging out with her kids there that dark haired woman is.

      • lisa2 says:

        The “dark haired woman is named Chloe Dalton..

        Angelina Jolie is teaming up with foreign policy experts to help expand her humanitarian work.

        The 40-year-old actress announced that she is partnering with Chloe Dalton and Arminka Helic, who she worked with on the Preventing Sexual Violence Initiative, to form Jolie Pitt Dalton Helic.

        *** The “dark haired woman is the DALTON in this partnership***

        and they are also FRIENDS.. see Angie has FRIENDS too

      • Flowerchild says:

        @ Yesesaidit

        Yes she is, their are photo of AJ and both women hanging out with Shiloh and her youngest daughter over at the DF and their are photos with both on vacation with both AJ, BP and the kids.

        You seem to want to see more than just friendship and business partners .Lol

  60. Elsa says:

    “You respect what it takes to earn it [money], and it also gives you a certain resilience, because it minimizes this false notion that that’s what matters. I know that to not be true, and I know I’m fine without it. That’s why maybe I’m so independent. I never expect anyone to give me anything—the notion of someone supporting me would be absurd to me.”

    That’s what Amanda said a year ago.Thoughts?

  61. Flowerchild says:

    My take on this is that Amber was using Johnny to boost her career and Johnny was having a midlife crisis. I think it just came to a point where it wasn’t “fun” anymore and Johnny drinking and possible drug use became to much and more then she wanted to deal with.

  62. Amy says:

    I don’t actually think she intended to stay married for 15 months and split. I think she was committed to his bank account for life! She probably thought she would be married to him and his money for years to come and eventually he would pass away and leave it ALL to her!

    But then the whole dog incident happened (which no one can convince me he was not equally guilty of because he has been having run-ins with the law since Amber was in kindergarten) and she realized he was trouble and ruining what little professional reputation she had. Then she was like “I am out of here now!” She might have been able to find some sympathy had she not gotten greedy and stupid and filed for the spousal support. That just proves to the world what she was after.