Stephanie Seymour: Gigi Hadid & Kendall are the ‘bitches of the moment’

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I came of age in the era of the supermodel. Those were the days! When models were incredibly glamorous and everywhere and they were the biggest partiers and most scandalous celebrities out there. As print media has declined, the importance of editorial work for models has dissipated. Nowadays, the biggest prerequisite for calling yourself a “model” is your number of Instagram followers rather than your number of magazine covers. But not everyone is happy with this current crop of Insta-models. Just this year, Karolina Kurkova and Rebecca Romijn both threw shade on the Kendall Jenners and Gigi Hadids of the modeling world. So what does Stephanie Seymour think? Seymour was one of the biggest supermodels of the ‘90s, right up there with Christy, Linda, Naomi, Cindy and Claudia. Seymour was asked about it by Vanity Fair:

Former model Rebecca Romijn, 43, told Entertainment Tonight last April that Kendall Jenner and Gigi Hadid “are not true supermodels,” and that she found it frustrating that social-media stars are now considered supermodels and setting style standards. Vanity Fair asked one of the original six, Stephanie Seymour, if she agreed, at Thursday night’s amfAR Inspiration Gala in New York.

“They are completely different than we were,” she said. “Supermodels are sort of the thing of the past. They deserve their own title. [Kendall and Gigi] are beautiful girls, and I support all of them, but they need their own title.”

And what should their title be? “Bitches of the moment!” Seymour said with a laugh. “That would be a good title for them.”

While the debate rages on, Seymour is thankful that her modeling heyday happened before camera phones and photo sharing made anonymity virtually impossible.

“I’m so glad social media didn’t exist during our time. I’m a private person, and sharing everything feels odd to me,” she said. “And because there weren’t cameras around us all the time, we got away with so much more and had so much more fun. We didn’t have people watching us all the time, and we weren’t putting ourselves out there in a way that was turning the media against us or for us in any way. We still had our privacy, and there was more of an illusion behind the girls. You lose your illusion when you give much of yourself away, and that’s what I don’t like about it. I’m so glad it didn’t exist back then. I can’t imagine what it’s like for the girls today.”

[From Vanity Fair]

“Bitches of the moment” has a certain ring to it. Was this shade? I’m feeling shade. Cindy, Linda, Stephanie and all of those ladies really did put the work in – all of those ladies worked from their teenage years, and almost all of them put in a solid 20 years’ work, from editorial to runway. I think if Gigi and Kendall stick with it and don’t flame out in a year (like a certain Angry Baby who will not be named), they’ll be more accepted by the “old guard” supermodels. But for now, yes, they are the Bitches of the Moment.

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  1. meme says:

    boring basic beeyotches.

    • AnnaKist says:

      Insta-Beeyotches.

    • Alex says:

      For real. So basic. Man I was a kid in the 90s but I remember loving runway shows and magazine covers with models. It seems to be a thing of the past

      • Mrs. Welen-Melon says:

        A walkoff between Insta-Girl Kendall Jenner and Queen of the Supermodels, Linda Evangelista. Judged by Iman.

      • Eden75 says:

        I laughed so hard I had coffee come out my nose. There is no contest there. Ms. Linda still works and having seen her walk in person? No way. Hell, I think she;s the only human on the planet who can walk like that.

        (Ah, Iman…..The neck, the hair. Wow…..)

      • Alex says:

        I mean that wouldn’t be a fair fight AT ALL haha

      • SKF says:

        OMG… I think Gigi is gorgeous but I’d heard her walk was bad. I just saw a compilation… Wowsers!!! So bad! Then I watched Linda and Naomi and the difference is just astronomical. They floated elegantly down the catwalk and were powerful and sexy and lithe. Long necks, great shoulders… Gigi needs some training!! Kendall is very pretty but just a big snooze. I couldn’t even be bothered watching her walk.

    • sherry says:

      This. They will never be like a Linda Evangelista. I think Stephanie really touched on something when she said there’s no illusion about them.

      They are very basic.

      • Carol says:

        I agree. I think she makes a good point about past Supermodels having more an illusion than the present crop of models. Since past Supermodels didn’t have to reveal so much of themselves, we saw them primarily through the prism of a Guy Bourdain or a Patrick Dermarchelier, or a fashionable stylist at some exotic location. They seemed sophisticated. We weren’t so privy to possibly their immature attitudes or self-absorption that a 20 year old model might have. At least not like today, where everyone who is in front of a lens has to vomit every stupid thought that pops into their mind.

      • MC2 says:

        Yes- I just can’t see these girls all done up and think “ohhh-sexy”. I’ve seen Kendall since she was a smaller kid & seeing them all the time in their day to day life makes me realize what kids they are. There is nothing wrong with that, but as a 30+ woman, I look at them as kids playing dress up when they are on the runway not as sophisticated women.

  2. anna says:

    I think the original six were mesmerising. Like a different species. Just watch Freedom, George Michael s music video. Kendall and GIgi, although two very pretty young girls, have nothing of a supermodel..

    • LAK says:

      Also ‘too funky’ video. That has the 2nd tier models though by current standards, the 2nd tier supermodels are still several grades ahead in terms of beauty standards.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ2DVwSVIIo

      Ps: the ‘naomi’ model was actually a drag queen impersonator! 😊

      Just for fun, posting the ‘freedom’ video and ‘november rain’ videos so we can look at these beautiful women.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=diYAc7gB-0A

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8SbUC-UaAxE

      Le sigh.

      I adored and still adore these women’s beauty. I never felt diminished when i looked at their pictures because i understood that their beauty was unique. No cosmetic procedure, glam make over would make me as beautiful. So better to work with my reality whilst appreciating these beautiful women.

      • BengalCat2000 says:

        I also really loved Shalom Harlow and Amber Valletta. Both are still stunning.
        Thanks for the the videos LAK!

      • Pansy says:

        She was just stunning in the “November Rain” video! Such a great (super long) song and video!
        I’m just going to sit and remember back when MTV had videos…..

      • Sea Dragon says:

        I’m loving this discussion and this thread.

      • M.A.F. says:

        These women also have curves. They don’t look like a surf board so just about all of us could see ourselves in them.

      • MC2 says:

        LAK- I loved your last paragraph.
        I loved Milla the best and always felt that way about the supermodels then. It wasn’t an idea that if I was rich enough or got attention or discovered that I could attain that. I didn’t feel like the models were faking anything or putting on a front (photoshop, make overs, procedures, ect). They were just crazy beautiful, and unique, looking women. The 80s were pretty universal- blond & blue eyes, but the 90s were all about unique looks.

      • Kelly says:

        Jesus, Christy Turlington was other-worldly. And notice no grotesquely filled lips, the contouring on their faces were shadows hitting their cheekbones. They were the unattainable beauty because it wasn’t a face they just painted on, those women were as stunning without makeup.

        I was starting high school when these women were big and I thought Naomi Campbell was the most beautiful person I’d ever seen. I loved her makeup, she used to wear a dark brown lip liner and so I tried to do my makeup like hers. The problem was I was a very pale and prim white girl, so when I left my room with my make up done, my father told me my mouth looked like a “cat’s asshole” and to “go wash that shit off.” *sigh*

      • LAK says:

        MC2: Exactly.

      • LAK says:

        Kelly: Christy and Linda were once hired to be the model for store mannequins in a high end dept store here in London. my local yoga studio has a couple of the mannequins because the owner worked at the dept store during then.

        Anyhue, people ALWAYS comment on the facial structure of the mannequins, especially Christy’s mannequin. The cheekbones are really magnificent.

        Those store mannequins is the closest i’ll ever get to the two models, and they are exquisite.

      • Kelly says:

        Lak, I didn’t know that! That definitely says something for their beauty. I agree with everything they say now about Insta-models whether it’s taken as shade or not. Call it over saturation then, the girls these days have nothing on The Supermodels.

    • Kitten says:

      I will never be able to listen to “Freedom” again and not think of the movie Keanu.

      Oh and I loved the November Rain video. Before that, I always thought Stephanie Seymour was kind of odd-looking. She was so gorgeous in that vid though.

  3. Kimbers says:

    Lol “bitches of the moment” so true! I feel kinda bad for gigi bc she wears desperation so awkwardly.

  4. Hudson Girl says:

    I think Angry Baby pulled herself out of modeling when she was in intensely high demand because she prefered acting. When she got a part in a movie, that was it for her.

    • mira says:

      Gigi and Kendall will probably want to act soon too. I mean Harry Styles is acting too it doesn’t seem very difficult to get a part if you have a lot of followers on instagram.

  5. Hegimal says:

    These chicks – where’s the crazy bone structure, the intrigue, the beyond aspirational, the glamour, the rock star quality? Nup not seein’ it.

    Plain as a pumpkin the both of ’em.

  6. Marianne says:

    Im sure both Gigi and Kendall work hard. But you also cant deny that they got where they are now if weren’t for connections through their family name.

    • Hudson Girl says:

      I don’t know much about Kendall but, I disagree about Gigi as she’s been modeling since she was a toddler. (She was a gorgeous child).
      Gigi has been putting the work in, and making the industry connections for most of her life.

      I am a former model and I would say the MOST important thing Gigi has done is build up a relationship with her modeling agency (and her portfolio). My friends (the few that know about my past) always wonder why certain models “make” it when others that are “prettier” don’t?

      In part, it’s laziness from the agency. Once they are familiar with you, get good feedback from clients about you on shoots re:behavior and fit in clothes, etc., they tend to send the same girls to “go sees” “cattle calls” over and over. It’s easier to make less phone calls and send to girls from your agency you’ve learned tend to get chosen for jobs. I’m not gorgeous but, I got a LOT of work because I was always cheerful and very friendly to people on set, always on time/early, stayed out of the sun, and fit the clothes. So, not only was my agency sending me out a lot for new clients, I was getting call backs from people I had worked with on old jobs, which makes you look even more appealing to someone sitting in an agency office who quite frankly is just trying to cross items off a To Do list as quickly as possible.

      • Taiss says:

        Have you seen Gigi’s runaway walk? It’s horrible. I can’t believe she gets called a supermodel. She wouldn’t even qualify for America’s next top model.
        She should’ve spent that time and money with a runway coach.
        Kendall, Gigi & Bella are so boring.

  7. OrigialTessa says:

    They are beautiful girls, but compared to the Amazonian glamour bombs of the 80’s and 90’s like Stephanie, they’re basic and don’t hold a candle.

  8. Talie says:

    It seems like Cindy Crawford, Naomi and Kate Moss are the only ones who have managed to keep relevant during this time. Christy has moved on, of course…and Stephanie is a mess. Linda also seems to have chilled out a bit.

  9. Mike says:

    I will never get the obsession with Cindy Crawford. If anything, she fits nicely in with the basics like Kendall and Gigi…actually Kendall and Gigi are both a bit more interesting looking than she is.

    • Neelyo says:

      Crawford was not only stunning but had a winning personality. I watched UNZIPPPED, the Isaac Mizrahi documentary, and was reminded how some of the other models came across as ditzy, bitchy, or both but Crawford was professional and friendly. I’m sure that went a long way towards her longevity.

      • Jen43 says:

        Cindy is also intelligent. IIRC, she won an academic scholarship to NorthWestern for engineering but dropped out.

    • Eden75 says:

      Maybe now, but certainly not back in the day. One of the things about Cindy was that they could change her look very easily. She has a facial structure that could go from sultry to girl next door in a frame change. That was one of the things that made her the huge model that she was. Personally, I think that the big six, and a couple of others, were goddesses among humans. Having been fortunate enough to see a couple of them in real life, there is a difference between them and the rest of us. They have that something when they walk in the room, not just good face but presence. It’s a very interesting thing to see.

      I’m including the Google search results for Cindy in the 90’s. The array of looks is what I meant. Kendall and the new ones seem to have one look all the time; overdone, pouty, try to be sexy at times. These are not that. There is everything in it. I’m not going to knock your opinion though. Looks are subjective. People think Scar Jo is amazingly hot. I think she’s pretty but not over the top wow. I get where you’re coming from.

      https://www.google.ca/search?q=cindy+crawford&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjIlp2zzafNAhUPWVIKHcGrCOsQ_AUICCgB&biw=1600&bih=789#tbm=isch&q=cindy+crawford+90%27s

      • LeManda says:

        Good post. You actually proved the difference. Cindy could actually model! Not just be a human clothes hanger.

      • Kitten says:

        This. We all wanted to be Cindy in the iconic Pepsi commercial. She was sexy as hell. That hair too. Damn.

      • Boo says:

        Excellent. Thanks to this I now see what I couldn’t through my younger eyes. There is something to the criticism about Cindy.

        Looking at her photos today, she was insecure about something about herself. Yesterday I saw she modelled in a photo with Kim and Kris Kardashian and others in a photo for Balmain. I was so disappointed in Cindy for that. But now that I review her 90s photos…it WAS there all along. Cindy is insecure. Which makes her come off as more basic. The other supermodels were not. I liked Cindy but wow this is eye opening realization.

        The one I always found the most interesting, besides Linda E, was Christy Turlington. Stephanie Seymour, in her day, was basic also. But she’s right about this today with her comments.

      • Jen43 says:

        Lets not forget Karen Mulder, Carol Alt, Patti Hansen and Paulina Porizkova.

      • Eden75 says:

        Carol Alt, those eyes. Dear lord I wanted eyes like that in the worst way.

      • LAK says:

        Jen43: Karen Mulder’s life makes me so sad.

      • Jen43 says:

        @LAK. I agree. It is very sad.

      • Beckysuz says:

        What strikes me to the most about those vintage Cindy pictures is that she had a body! Yes beautiful and toned but curves! She looked like she actually ate and worked out. Wow you just never see that anymore

      • LAK says:

        Beckysuz: They all had bodies. The heroin chic waif look switched to ultra skinny models. Many of them, including Cindy complained about having to drop the weight to continue working in the new skinny era. The 2 who, imo, lost their looks along with the weight are Eva Herzigova and Claudia Shiffer, factoring in age related diminishing of looks.

    • Locke Lamora says:

      Cindy is the definition of basic. She had a good body, but she was never as pretty as Kate or Naomi. Of the 90s supermodels, only Kate, Naomi and Linda had that certain something. All the others were bland as hell.

      • Kitten says:

        I disagree so much.

      • V4Real says:

        Crawford was gorgeous and she had that it factor, I never found Kate pretty, just differnt; if you’re referring to Kate Moss. She was too skinny, I hated the whole waif look.

        @Eden You’re description of Cindy is spot on.

      • Locke Lamora says:

        Yep, Kate Moss. To me, facially she was the most stunning. The rest, especially Cindy and Christy, I never found to be pretty.

      • Timbuktu says:

        @Locke Lamora
        that’s just so weird to me. I don’t even find Kate pretty, let alone stunning.
        Between Kate and Cindy, Cindy, hands down, hundred times over. I bet if Cindy was a teacher, doctor, or a housewife, she’d still turn heads. If I crossed Kate in the street, I don’t think she’d register at all, she’s just so average to me.
        But perhaps it is because Kate is closer to my type physically: smaller eyes, wider face, blonde… I find that I tend to find brunettes more striking, as a rule.

      • Original T.C. says:

        Someone please correct me if I’m wrong but in the U.S. Kate Moss was never seen as beautiful. Her claim to Supermodel-hood was her small frame and super skinny body. She was the exception to the “must have superhuman gorgeous face to be a model” rule. She looked very plain and had an unattractive smile/teeth.

        I think it’s more in Europe that Kate was considered beautiful. There are some aesthetics that appeal more to one culture than the other. So perhaps it was the same with Cindy Crawford being beautiful to Americans and to Europeans plain?

      • LAK says:

        Original TC: You are correct. Kate Moss’s appeal was that she was super pretty in an ordinary way. Not a super human beaty with perfect features and proportions. She also has extraordinary cheekbones that give her an elfin look and photographs like a dream. She was the anti-glamazon model. The first in a line of different type of beauty. And i think the fashion industry enjoyed the perverse pleasure of elevating someone like her in a world full of glamazon super human beauties.

        She set the trend we see today of pretty yet ordinary looking models.

  10. Tulip says:

    She’s basically saying “Things were better in my day”.
    Yes, you could easily argue that. But I wish the interviewer led them to comment on the positive aspects of the latest “it” girls. I mean, everyone gets thrown away in the modelling industry, why make stir the pot even more?

      • FingerBinger says:

        Now nepotism gets you a career.

      • LAK says:

        Haven’t read article, but let’s add photographer Gilles Bensimon who was married to Elle Macpherson followed by Kelly Bessimon of RHONY fame. Those models definitely had marital advantage over their rivals because he worked big jobs as a photographer and used them above otheir rivals, AND he was the international direcyor of Elle which was to their advantage.

      • Patty says:

        Stephanie Seymour and John Casablancas is a bad example. She won a contest that he used to do, and he started sleeping with her when she was 14/15 years old. She was hardly a consenting adult, and they split when she was in her late teens early twenties.

        Model: The Ugly Business of Beautiful Women by Michael Gross. Amazing book. And he goes into what pervs people like Casablancas were.

      • Eden75 says:

        That was the Elite Modeling Look of the Year Contest. She was 15 when it started, he was in his late 40’s I believe. That’s what ended his marriage.

    • Boo says:

      Which is funny considering the most high profile work S.Seymour ever did was lingerie in Victoria’s Secret catalogue. CATALOGUE.

      • Don't kill me I'm French says:

        Her most high profile work was that she was Richard Avedon/Irvin Penn’s fav model .She was one of Versace’s fav also.In fact ,she worked 10 years until her marriage then sometimes

  11. Jenn says:

    Lets face it, these two are models because of thier parents. Gigi is pretty but Kendull is so basic, nothing special. And both have the personality of a wet napkin zzzzzzz

  12. Eden75 says:

    In a flashback to the supermodel era, here is a photo from Balmain. This is Cindy, Stephanie, Amber, Christy and Naomi. Le Sigh. Not that the new ones aren’t pretty, because they are, but they lack that something that makes a supermodel a supermodel.

    http://www.publimetro.cl/_internal/gxml!0/2qijkhn0ctpwx8acoz5fxkpvtmr4nbh$8gyij0elvwemt7b1jtoqpzcaqne3zfd/screen-shot-2015-06-25-at-10-15-17-pm.jpeg

    • Locke Lamora says:

      Maybe because I’m younger and didn’t grow up in that era, but they don’t look any more compelling than the new models, like Karlie or Joan. I’d say Karlie is a better model than most of them. I think the way they were presented in the press coloured a lot of people’s perception when they would look at their pictures.

      • Eden75 says:

        I don’t think so actually. They were everywhere, sure, but people who knew nothing about the industry or who they were would still notice them, even out in the normal world. Karlie Kloss could have been one back in the day, I don’t doubt it. I have posted it before that I think she is one of the best today. She has that presence that the ‘supers’ had when she is in front of the camera.

        I had the pleasure of meeting Linda, Christy and Claudia back in the 90’s. They were very nice but they truly did stop a room when they came in. Even without all the model trappings, they were (and still are as far as I am concerned) amazing. I haven’t seen any of the new models in person, not my world anymore, but I would love to, just to see what they really are like.

      • Kitten says:

        Yeah. It’s because you didn’t grow up in that era.

      • V4Real says:

        Those models looked like models and they each had their own distinctive look. The models of today all look bland and the same. Even Gisele, Adrianna and Alessandra had a distinctive look. Kloss is one of the only ones that could have fit in with the Crawfords and Campbells of the super modeling world. And they were much more compelling than the models of today.

      • Locke Lamora says:

        Again, I don’t see it. To me Stephanie, Christy and Cindy have the same type of beauty. Kate, Linda and Naomi are maybe different. And I don’t find any of them compelling. To each their own.

      • M.A.F. says:

        You just said it yourself- you didn’t grow up in this era so how can you say the girls today are better than those who came before them?

      • Locke Lamora says:

        I said to me. And I think I can say what I think of them because I can look at their pictures, the pictures are still here, no?

    • LAK says:

      That photo is actually from a shoot for Vogue that was part of the 1990 article that called these girls supermodels.

    • mee says:

      gorgeous. i always found christy to be the prettiest when i was young. now, with age and because all youthful faces are pretty to me, i see that cindy was actually quite striking too.

    • Hazel says:

      Eden75: That’s not Amber, that’s Tatiana Patitz (sp?).

      • LAK says:

        Tatiana is the forgotten Supermodel. Also she wasn’t a show off, fame hungry model and didn’t branch out which is probably why she was forgotten.

  13. Locke Lamora says:

    I am glad the supermodel era is over. Giving that much money and fame to people simply because they were born pretty is moronic. Besides, the new crop of “weird” looking models are much more interesting.

  14. Thais says:

    I dispute this idea that Kendall hasn’t been working for years. She has, on her family’s awful TV show. It’s a different kind of working, to be sure, but there’s no doubt she’s worked (somewhat) hard to be where she is today. Gigi is another matter. But who cares? They’re models. It’s not like we’re talking about nuclear physicists here.

  15. Lucy says:

    All I can think of right now is that horrid wedding dress they made her wear in November Rain…

    • LAK says:

      LOL

      • Eden75 says:

        It was awful. The other dress was fab though. There were a lot of crappy wedding dresses like that in the early 90’s. Sadly, the short front seems to be making a comeback……Yikes.

  16. AM says:

    Stephanie shouldn’t talk. I recall and remember that her career rose because she was having a relationship with the late John Casablancas – her model agent. At the time, it was so controversial due to her age. She didn’t hide the fact that they had a thing. He didn’t either.

    • Don't kill me I'm French says:

      She was Richard Avedon and Irvin Penn’s fav model .If you is interested by the fashion world,you must know that they were the best of the best of fashion photographs.

      • EM says:

        My favourite photographer is Helmut Newton.
        Herb Ritts was also a huge photographer of models as well.

  17. Andrea says:

    I agree with Stephanie. I don’t think she is shading anyone. The term supermodel should be left in the past. It was used at a time when models ruled pop culture. It can’t be recreated. Also, i don’t think Linda, Christy, Cindy or Naomi would have been as popular without each other. They were sold as a group (clique or squad). Kendall and Gigi are beautiful women. lets stop comparing them to woman who can be their mother.

  18. M.A.F. says:

    Would “Dead-eyes” be a proper title? But these ladies are not supermodels.

  19. Pandy says:

    Bitches of the Moment works. Totally.

  20. Algernon says:

    I get that Cara Delevigne isn’t popular in these parts but calling someone who has transitioned to a full-time acting career a “flame out” is crazy. She’s getting plum parts in big movies. She’s not a model anymore, she’s an actress, for better or worse.

  21. Tig says:

    I was pleasantly surprised to read Stephanie’s comments- they were very nice. I think Bitches of the moment was meant to be funny, not shady.
    Since we are going down memory lane re models, how about Rene Russo? She transitioned to acting pretty successfully, but her print work was mesmerizing.

  22. Hazel says:

    Y’all ought to read, ‘Model: the Ugly Business of Beautiful Women.’ Great photos from the really early days.

  23. Cs says:

    True story – I had to Google Angry Baby’s movie to remember her name.

    Say what you want about Cara, but she difinitely made the crop of top models more interesting. Now we’re left with Gigi and Kendall, who just don’t bring the same kind of cray. I’ve never been a fan, but it makes me a little wistful that she’s not on the list of a-list models anymore. (Also I think models like Jourdan Dunn and Joan Smalls are more interesting than G&K, but that may just be me. I do wish we heard more gossip about other models besides those 2.)

  24. Loo says:

    Cara left modeling to lead 180 million dollar movies and has a plum role in Suicide Squad next year. She’s doing very well for herself.

    • ann says:

      She never left. She took back what she said on twitter and said somehing like “I never said I was leaving”. Blah. That movie paper town or whatever tanked and all the fans of the book hated it and her acting was cringe. The Peter pan movie she was in also didn’t do well. Let’s see how suicide squad goes. So far her acting is not good.

  25. Laura says:

    I agree with Stephanie. My favourite supermodel was, and always will be, Niki Taylor! She (and her younger sister, Krissy – may she continue to rest in peace) was beautiful, funny, sweet and I always felt that there was a wholesomeness about her “look” despite her sexier photos. I absolutely love Niki!

  26. mrspanda says:

    One elitist beautiful woman shading the next generation of elitist beautiful women – that’s all I see here! Kendull & Gigi are probably just as awe inspiring to 12 year old girls that Cindy etc were to us when we were young teens.