Brad Pitt filed a response to Angelina’s divorce petition, wants joint custody


The last time we checked on Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s divorce situation, we heard that the DCFS investigation had been extended indefinitely while investigators dealt with additional reports/claims of Brad possibly, allegedly verbally abusing his kids. Before that, we heard that Brad would not be filing his own divorce paperwork, at least not while the DCFS investigation was ongoing. The reasoning behind that, as per sources close to Brad, was that Brad thought the kids were already traumatized and he and Angelina both wanted to negotiate their divorce quietly, just between their lawyers. Well, those sources were wrong. Late Friday, Brad did file his response to Angelina’s divorce petition, and he’s asking for joint custody of the kids.

Brad Pitt will seek joint physical custody of his six children with Angelina Jolie in their ongoing divorce. The actor filed his response to Jolie’s petition on Friday, and is asking to share joint physical and joint legal custody of the children with his soon-to-be ex-wife, PEOPLE confirms. In her Sept. 19 divorce filing, Jolie requested sole physical custody with visitation rights for Pitt.

Custody of the couple’s six children — Maddox, 15, Pax, 12, Zahara, 11, Shiloh, 10, and 8-year-old twins Knox and Vivienne — has been a major point of contention between the former couple as they’ve been locked in divorce negotiations over the past several weeks.

The children remain continue to live with Jolie and a source close to the situation tells PEOPLE: “The kids are Angie’s sole focus. She’s cancelled everything else – work, everything. She’s been home each day, supporting them, helping them with homework, been there constantly. And no, this isn’t with a big staff of nannies and helpers.”

Meanwhile, a separate source close to the family said recently: “They are still working on issues that they can’t agree on. It seems their issues still involve the kids.”

“Brad and Angie haven’t had any contact, and it’s all being worked out via their teams,” said the family source recently. “It’s just a sad situation.”

[From People]

Everyone gets mad when I try to read the tea leaves either way, but I honestly don’t know how to interpret this. First his side makes a big deal about how he’s not going to respond to Jolie’s divorce petition, and now he’s coming out the gate, guns blazing, which (to be fair) reflects how Jolie dropped the divorce papers on him in the first place. My guess is that the two sides were trying to work through everything quietly but they couldn’t agree, which is why Brad filed a response. As for People’s quotes about how Angelina has canceled everything to be with the kids… sure. I think we need to define “big staff of nannies and helpers” though. But whatever, just nitpicking.

I also wonder what Brad’s promotion for Allied is going to look like. It comes out on November 23rd, two and a half weeks from now. No magazine interviews, obviously. But will he do some TV interviews? And is that what the divorce response is about? Did he want to get some of the sh-t nailed down before he has to speak on the record in the midst of a promotional tour?


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  1. Sixer says:

    Or he waited until whatever investigations are ongoing to look likely to clear him of any substantial/ongoing fault rather than a single incident, so that he had solid ground on which to file?

    Who knows? Since this divorce will have the children front and centre and publicity will have significant and ongoing impact on them, I think it should be conducted behind closed doors.

    • SilverUnicorn says:

      I agree with everything you said! What a sad situation :'(

    • swak says:


    • Jellybean says:

      Agreed and for all we know the FBI and Child Services have already presented their findings and made their recommendations. It would be so refreshing if that had happened and not been leaked.

    • Sixer says:

      Just to note: I’m not sticking up for Pitt any more than I would stick up for Jolie because it’s all on the basis of rumour and speculation. My priority is that rumour and speculation is harmful for children, whether one, other or both parents are to blame for whatever has happened.

      But it does seem common sense that Pitt would let any investigation take its course and base his own filing in response to Jolie’s on what it has to say.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      Yeah, I’m with you on both points, Sixer. I really find no pleasure in commenting on this sad situation beyond that.

    • Tulip Garden says:

      100% with you , Sixer.
      Also, I am unsurprised that Pitt wants joint custody. I don’t think this is a bombshell revelation.
      Hope all investigations (if ongoing) and the court case (if that is the only route left) is handled as quietly as possible.
      Most families are complicated (as are most people) and I am sure that there are things that the public wouldn’t want in the media about their private lives. Same for these two.
      Regretful it wasn’t handled behind the scenes in the first place.

  2. koos says:

    cmom cmon, lets stick together…………..

  3. LAK says:

    It’s about time. Someone needed to take custody of the joints!!!

  4. roses says:

    The whole situation is a mess. I’m sure his attorney advised him it would be the smart thing to do in responding because if not it would go into default and he definitely doesn’t want that. Don’t now why his team said anything about his not signing in the first place unless TMZ was making up crap to get clicks. Also makes me wonder when he was actually served because the responder has 30 to reply to the petition, so maybe the media got that wrong and assumed so who knows what’s really going on.

  5. Babs says:

    Good. He better fight for joint custody. Kids deserve a mother and a father in their life.

    • Bridget says:

      Kids deserve to feel safe in their own home. That’s more important.

    • RuddyZooKeeper says:

      No. Kids deserve to feel safe and loved. Kids deserve to be provided shelter and to never feel hungry. Kids most definitely deserve a home environment free from fear and threat of physical and emotional violence. I know kids who deserved to grow up in a home WITHOUT their mom or dad because that POS hurt them, made them feel worthless, and didn’t care they went to bed hungry. So no. You don’t get to be in a kid’s life by default. Kids actually deserve better.

    • Louise177 says:

      @Babs: This comment doesn’t make any sense. Sole custody doesn’t mean losing your parental rights. It means the kids are with one parent the majority of the time. It could be anything from a couple of hours a day to a couple of days every week. Brad was never losing his parental rights. Besides nobody knows what’s going on in the home. It could be better for the kids to have limited access if Brad has issues.

      • SaraR. says:

        Exactly. She also said that sole custody is not the permanent solution, but people are acting like she is the bad guy here.

      • sage says:

        That is what I recall too. They would share legal custody and joint was only temporary until Brad could sort out his issue. From comments I’ve read, it seems people think she is requesting permanent legal and joint custody, which she is not..

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      Her request for custody *included* visitation rights for him, ergo, they would have both parents in their lives.

      • JHL says:

        I’m sure that he doesn’t want just visitation. He is their father and he deserves to have joint custody. I feel like Jolie is a time bomb that goes off frequently. And we all hear that she seduces other women’s husbands and betrothed. Sorry, I have nothing for this woman.

      • Carmen says:

        I’m sick and tired of the woman always being blamed when a man leaves a relationship. A man is not a commodity like a watch or a car or a wallet which can be stolen, and no man gets seduced without his consent. Nobody knows who made moves on whom when Pitt and Jolie first met. For all you know, Pitt seduced her.

      • lissanne says:

        Carmen, I think the page has turned on that conversation.

    • Babs says:

      You all play dumb so good. It’s like you’re not even playing 🙂

  6. Jean Gray says:

    As he should fight for joint custody. The courts prefer it that way because kids need both parents in their lives. I’ve side-eyed men who “roll over” without putting up a fight for their kids and just accept that the mother should be with them and they only see them once a week or on holidays. I had my own situation where I was trying to amicably get my child’s father to be in her life more but he was totally too busy (not doing much of anything and just being straight up petty that he had to pay child support) to see his kid on a consistent basis. Only when he felt like it, so I find it admirable when a man wants to willfully take responsibility for their kids.

    • jinni says:

      @Jean Gray: They don’t need a father if said father is fighting some of them and possible verbally abusing them.

      @ at the general attitude towards Pitt’s situation not necessarily at you Jean Gray: I am continually shocked that so many people are giving Pitt the benefit of the doubt despite the fact that he has never in all of this time denied hitting his son. Sure he claims it was a mistake because Maddox got in the way. He minimized it by says sure he hit him but not in the face as if that makes any real difference but has never flat out said that he never hit his son. Everyone seems to be downplaying the seriousness of the dcfs expanding their investigation which is one giant red flag. No instead it’s all “poor Pitt”, ” good for him fighting for his kids”, ” He’s too good for Jolie” etc. If he really wanted to fight for his kids he should have fought his addictions so this would not have happened in the first place. I know someone will bring up how people are slaves to addiction and we should have sympathy for them, which sure I can understand that, but if so than where was this sympathy for the likes of Depp who according to Heard was sweet and great when not under the influence? He got none, no one was rooting for him to get better. Not one person, so I ask why does Pitt get sympathy when he is a child abuser? Is it because the child in question is male? Would so many be giving him sympathy and blaming this all on out of control teenage behavior and Jolie not giving the kids structure if he had done this to his teenage daughter?

      I just don’t get it.

      • SaraR. says:

        And can you imagine if Angelina was the one that child services were investigating and Brad was asking for sole custody of the children – how many people would support her? Zero.

      • Lucylooloo says:

        Such a great comment. As much as we think we are above it, fame clouds judgment. We think we know these people, therefore we can pass finite judgments/excuses that we would never apply to anyone in our everyday lives.

      • mila says:

        Finally, someone with some sense.

        I also don’t understand the criticism she gets. When people start taking about her past drug abuse and behavior, it’s like, you know she hasn’t been that person in a long time.

        People are being incredibly judgmental of a parent who’s just trying to get her kids away from the other parent who is actually currently abusing substances and their kid/s.

        Also, i wouldn’t be surprised if he got advised to file for joint-custody because it would look bad if he didn’t. By the sounds of it (not just from this drama, but from actual co-stars who’ve worked with him recently and spend at least 12hr-long days with him on a set), he’s not getting any help for his addiction and consequent behaviour. Why should he get joint-custody if he’s not going to change?

      • Babs says:

        My father hit me when I was a kid/teen. Our relation was strained for a long time because of it. He apologized later, he never did it with my younger sisters, I forgave him and that gave me closure. Even when he was a not-so-good father, he gave me valuable lessons in life and now I’m happy he was always a part of it, and still is.
        No one forced him to change, not even my mother (who I resented at the time), he did because he is a clever man. People can change. Family is complicated. It’s not easy for eldest kids. That doesn’t mean BP should be dead for the family.
        In my humble and respectful opinion, of course.

      • JHL says:

        You’re Kidding jinni. Hahahahahahaha. .I agree with babs. Sorry. Actually, I mean no disrespect.

    • Janet R says:

      Custody and visitation are 2 different things. Without joint custody, things like taking a child to the ER become problematic, because you need the custodial parent’s permission for medical treatment. At least that was the case 25 years ago for my state. So our divorce had “joint custody with primary residence with the mother”. I wasn’t a fan because I felt like I no longer knew who my husband was, but it was best for the kids.

      • Angel says:

        Thank you for stating this. No one seems to know the difference.

      • swak says:

        There are two different types of custody – physical and legal. Physical custody is where visitation is worked out. Legal custody pertains to who makes medical decisions, school, religion, etc. Joint legal custody allows both parents to be part of the decision.

  7. Snowflake says:

    I feel bad that they have to have their divorce and custody issues played out in public like this. Makes me sad, brangelina ending. I know that’s stupid, but their life just seemed so great. Adopting all those kids, traveling from country to country, seemed like a great family and a great life. And they were together so long, so sad.

    • OTHER RENEE says:

      You never know the reality behind the media hype. I’ve known many people with seemingly perfect lives who in actuality were miserable: cheating spouses, financial crises, health problems. You never know what is really going on behind closed doors.

    • sage says:

      It is sad that the divorce is being played out in public, BUT Brad and Angelina allowed their relationship become public consumption. They sold their kids birth/adoption and spoke ad nauseam about the kids private life. They sold their marriage, and now the divorce.

      Too bad for the kids, but Brad and Angelina should have known better to sell their private life.

      • Bridget says:

        Those two were the exception to the rule though. They’re superstars, and the attention was on them whether courted or not. They sold their photos because of the insane frenzy at the time – not only did it keep everyone (including the photographers) safe, but instead of an outlet profiting off unauthorized images they sold them themselves and donated the money. Yes, to an extent their personal lives and images have been something that they’ve turned into a commodity. But are we so jaded that we won’t let them have a little bit of space when their family and especially their children are in crisis?

      • Tulip Garden says:

        Sage and Bridget,
        I think you both have fair points. The Jolie-Pitt relationship, children included, were made into a commodity and image shaping tools. Not to say that they both don’t love their children, I believe they do. The Happy Family Schlick (while maybe true) seemed to impinge on not only their privacy (their right and decision) but also onto the children who had no say so in their private lives being discussed. Aldo, more then Pitt and Jolie some people really created personalities for these children made out of parental quotes, just whole cloth imagination. That seems unfair to me.
        Bridget, I think that regardless of their parents previous actions/statements about them, we should have the humanity to give these kids some space without projecting any other thing onto them. In time, if they so choose, they can speak for themselves as is their right.
        I’d hope both parents statements at this point could be limited to , “we both love our children”. That is no doubt true and all the kids need for them and us to know right now

  8. ctgirl says:

    St. Angelina will be a formidable opponent. This is a woman who has changed public perception of her life and mission through sheer will and absolute control of her publicity. She went from a knife playing, blood wearing, good-time girl who could entice any man (Billy Bob Thornton from Laura Dern and Brad Pitt from Jennifer Aniston) and the poster girl for who you absolutely didn’t want your daughter to emulate to St. Angelina who visits war torn countries and advocates for refugees. Whether the plane episode was part of a larger pattern for Brad Pitt or a one off he will have a difficult time going against St. Angie.

    • SaraR. says:

      She was a good-time girl?
      You obviously don’t know much about her early days, because nothing could be further than that.

    • sushi says:

      From what I read, Brad actually pursued her, not the other way round.

      • ctgirl says:

        I didn’t say “pursue” for a reason. Entice means attract, not necessarily actively going after something or someone. Goodness, people are literal today 🙂

    • Ennie says:

      You talk like if infidelity in HW was rare. Laura Dern and Aniston themselves got their latest husbands that same way, by “enticing” them away from their former spouses. Not cool, Laura, not cool, next door Jenny ( and countless others who are not Jolie).

    • almondmilk says:

      Attn: I’m the real almondmilk. Hate having to say it, but unfortunately someone is impersonating me and pretending to be an Angie hater (since I’m the farthest thing from that).

      Back to topic thread and @ctgirl:

      Angelina wasn’t born into this world a 25 yr old, a forever unchanging flawed and lost person. She was a child, then a teen/adolescent and finally a young woman. In layman’s terms we call it growing up and maturing. She’s talked about it in detail. What inspired her and made her want to exist beyond herself and her upbringing.

      Your theory is contrary. On what planet does the sexy ‘good time girl’ (seriously? Is this the 1920s?) and Oscar winning 22yo beauty who does zero charity… NOT become just as famous as the humanitarian actress? Not on this one. See Marilyn Monroe, Liz Taylor, or today’s reality stars Kim Kardashian, or Paris Hilton. No one has to promise to be a ‘saint’ to get millions and movies and publicity.

      Yet you maintain Angelina risks life and limb abroad in refugee camps for press attention? Come now. Why not just come out with an Angelina video game, get drunk at a bar or fellate a banana in a bad rom com?

      Do the math.

      Angelina is no politician nor is she entering the priesthood. She’s an actress, lol. She didn’t need a certain pristine above reproach charitable persona to ACT, and become the biggest star in the world. Hello Liz Taylor, James Dean, Jack Nicholson, Betty Davis and Audrey Hepburn.

      Those that say she puts on flak jackets and goes to war torn areas for the UN for reasons other than she wants to – make zero sense. Again, it’s the business of show…she can choose to give her money to refugees or give it to Gucci… Doing the latter won’t make her less famous.

      If she was so in control of her publicity, she would have a PR agent and she sure wouldn’t have gotten involved with Brad and been perceived as ‘stealng’ Pitt all these years, enraging minivans everywhere.

      Occam’s razor? Simplest explanation usually is true. She’s still a punk kid with tattoos (her quote),and humanitarian work inspires her to be better. In-between she fell in love.

  9. Sassback says:

    What do you mean “guns blazing”? He had to respond and he wants to share the kids evenly. I feel like despite the mess that started this whole thing he has been very fair

    • Jellybean says:

      I wasn’t sure about that either. This was filed on a Friday, which is the way divorces are usually filled to minimize media coverage, no leaks to the media to back it up and no negative comments about Angelina. Basically this is the opposite of how Angelina did it – with all guns blazing.

    • Nemera77 says:

      That is silly.. “guns blazing”..

      He had to respond. If not there would be a default judgement and it would mean that he agrees with her filing. His filing shows that he does not agree and is seeking Joint physical custody. Angie filing asked for sole physical custody but Joint Legal custody.

      This is not the WAR some want and need it to be. I actually hope they can work it out. I liked them as a couple. They fit in my eyes. And reading the comments some are making assuming that Brad is abusive.. I can see him not allowing that to just sit out there. There are NO facts that say that. None. Just tabloid tales.. and since just last week they were claiming Brad was not going to respond shows they know squat.

      • BonnieJean says:

        I agree with you guys. Jolie came out guns blazing with accusations & request for sole custody, which got this whole situation off to a very bad start — made it all about the kids. Brad isn’t going for sole custody, he is asking for joint, which I think is very fair & not adversarial. It seems to me that he feels safe to file now that accusations & drug testing has been put to rest. I don’t know. This whole thing should/could have been done quietly behind closed doors — but it’s too late for that now.

      • Lady D says:

        Is there proof that it was her that came out guns blazing? There was an awful lot of tabloid speculation happening, not actual statements from either of them.

      • mbh12 says:

        Well said BonnieJean.
        IMO, Angelina’s team did come out gunsblazing.
        I am a longtime Angelina fan, from Gia days, but imo The early desire on either her legal team’s part or someone in her camp GO Scorched earth, has backfired on her.

        He has every right to ask for joint custody of their children.

    • lucy2 says:

      I found that odd too. He had to file a response, and I don’t think asking for joint custody is “guns blazing”. If he’d claimed awful stuff about her and asked for sole custody, sure, but asking for joint custody is just common sense, I think.

      I hope that between the courts , the investigators, and the two parties can all come to an agreement that’s healthy and stable for the kids.

  10. Jellybean says:

    I read somewhere that Brad has cancelled his interviews for Allied and isn’t even clear if he will do the premier. It has also been made clear that nobody else will talk about Brad’s private life during the press tour.

    • jinni says:

      If this is true, to me this makes him look like a coward because it’s not as if he isn’t powerful enough to simply have his people tell interviewers not to ask him anything out of respect for his family or whatever excuse he wants to give to make sure uncomfortable questions aren’t asked of him. No instead he plans to hide. But if this ends up happening I am sure Marion is expected to go out in front of the cameras and deal with having been dragged into his mess in order to promo their movie.

      • Nemera77 says:

        Brad is going to his Premier and he will be doing a premier in China..

        Goodness.. If the investigation is still going on some level he would have to be careful about what he says. But then he doesn’t owe the public anything other than promoting a film. He is a professional. I think he will do what he needs to do. Besides Brad only ever does a bit of press anyway. He does a Morning show interview sometimes and a magazine.. so not sure what “press events he has cancelled”.. He never does a lot anyway

      • Jellybean says:

        I don’t think that is fair. These days press tours involve weeks of interviews, special screenings and country hoping all around the world. He would be able to ban personal questions, but surely being present and focusing on his family is more important at this time? Also, I doubt it was Brad who dragged Marion into this; gossip columns and mysterious ‘sources’ did that and I doubt there was any truth in the rumors about their affair.

      • Bridget says:

        When did it become a better option for a celebrity to declare questions off limits? When did we start to think that was okay? Because it’s not. Subjects should not be able to censor their interviews (because that’s what we’re encouraging here). Wouldn’t it look more cavalier and flip for him to pretend that everything is normal? Not to mention, the man at one point made a movie specifically about press and the importance of it and truth (A Mighty Heart), wouldn’t that make such censorship more hypocritical?

      • Chinoiserie says:

        Bans to ask for personal lives of stars are really common so I do not think he will be seens a coward.

      • Jellybean says:

        Bridget, I am all for freedom of the press, but Pitt is not a politician or a civil servant. Plus, the questions would relate directly to children and, potentially, an open investigation. I do not believe actors should ever be expected to talk about their personal lives, reality celebrities yes, but not actors.

      • MrsBPitt says:

        I would not blame Brad for cancelling all interviews and premieres for Allied. He has much more important things going on in his life. Namely, his family….

      • Bridget says:

        He can decline to answer anything he wants. He may not be a politician but he is definitely a public figure, so where does the distinction start? I think we have gotten FAR too comfortable with public figures being able to dictate the terms of interviews, and I absolutely think that our comfort with entertainers censoring their interview questions has leaked into how we expect other public figures to be treated as well. The fact that so many people do it doesn’t make it right, and in fact it makes it more wrong that people are so okay with it. Brad Pitt isn’t obligated to answer ANY questions, but the fact is that he shouldn’t be able to dictate whether someone is allowed to ask in the first place.

      • mbh12 says:

        This is not free country and neither he nor Angelina have to answer or go to anything they don’t want to, unless it’s legally demanded by a Court.

        There is absolutely no reason for Brad or Angelina to be forced to sit and discuss or answer personal questions about their personal life or even attend an event unless (attending is contractual. ) They don’t owe an interviewer access to their personal distress inside their lives or inside their heads, if they have no desire to.


      • mbh12 says:

        correction, meant…”This is a FREE Country and neither he or Angelina have to answer or go to anything they don’t want to… (unless it’s legally demanded by a Court.)

        Why should anyone subject themselves to be questioned about their personal life if they don’t want to?
        Brad and Angelina have every right to refuse to go into an uncomfortable situation if they don’t want to.

  11. Nicole says:

    Okay why shouldn’t he file a petition? Maybe his team got word that we will be cleared of anything or maybe negotiations broke down so he filed a response. That’s the next logical step. If he didn’t file a response people would say he didn’t want his kids. So it was a lose lose.

    The only people I feel sorry for are the kids. Neither brad nor Angie are saints. So zero sympathy for them

  12. Bex says:

    This doesn’t seem like ‘guns blazing’ to me really. He quietly filed on a Friday. The investigation is probably winding down and this is the logical next step. There’s no way he couldn’t file a response at some point if he doesn’t agree with Angie having sole custody.

    • Carey says:

      Not just a Friday but the Friday before the most controversial presidential election in a generation. Seems like he did his best to have it buried in the news cycle.

    • crazydaisy says:

      I read he just checked the box that said “Joint Custody” is what he wants. Not surprising…he’s a committed father even if he has anger issues, for which it appears he is in therapy (again I read this, don’t know for sure.)

  13. geneva says:

    Amazingly, kids eventually do adapt to joint custody arrangements which in my mind puts a damper on Jolie’s alleged plan of leaving the country. I imagine for these two shared custody won’t be three days at your house, three days or whatever at mine…but having been with a Dad who had shared custody – the kids loved it initially then for some reason wanted to live with their Mom as teens. But as little ones they really did need their Dad.

    • Gwen says:

      I think the stories about Angelina wanting to live in U.K. were started by tabloids and people just ran with them. She has humanitarian efforts in the U.K. but completing work there for a few days isn’t the same as wanting to move there.

  14. molly says:

    @hmmm yes angie wanted child services waiting for them & told she has to separate the children from the one being investigated or the children may be taken. As a mother she did what she had to do in that moment. Until you have child services turning your whole life upside down due to your husband’s actions, then who are we to judge how she handled it. If she felt filing for divorce & sole custody was right, than that is her choice. I think she knows what’s best for her family based on the situation, than strangers on the internet.

    • Fa says:

      Specially when DCFS and FBI get involved it’s a big deal to protect the kids first from this and her sole custody demands is temporary while there is investigation against their father and I can assumed the investigation is close this is why he has to file response

    • Lindsay says:

      Why do people keep repeating this? For the hundredth time the kids were never going to be taken. Second DCFS works with whatever the current situation is. She chose to leave so they made a custodial plan that reflects HER choice. If the had stayed together the parenting plan would have reflected that choice. No social worker hold your kids hostage at the beginning of an investigation into a first time complaint. They receive a depressing number of complaints they don’t get into extremes until they know the claim has merit and the situation demands it. Less than 5% of kids get removed from their home and the majority of those are due to neglect (not outright abuse). Not everyone can afford to get divorced and maintain separate domiciles, some people don’t want to get divorced so their are established protocol and workarounds that can be employed while they conduct their investigation.

      This was a choice she made for her family good, bad or indifferent, DCFS did not make that decision for her.

  15. Fa says:

    Actually Angie filed the 19th and TMZ found out the filling the 20th compared to Brad he filed the 4th & TMZ & all tabloids found that same day his response
    If the tabloids find her filling the 19th on Monday all the tabloids would’ve make their cover story for their Wednesday issues but they didn’t

  16. bettyrose says:

    Posting this here so as not to respond to anyone directly, People should be careful with comments like “a kid needs a father.” Many families don’t include fathers, for one reason or another, so it can be a hurtful thing to say. Children need both male & female role models, but those often come from other adults who aren’t the legal guardian.

    In this particular case, the children have a father who they’ve known their entire lives, and of course it’s important that Brad remain in their lives, but no one is saying otherwise.

    • Chinoiserie says:

      This is their father and you are being were senseitive and obtise if you honesty got offended by people saying that.

      • Ducky la Rue says:

        @Chinoiserie – one of my friends comes from a rather dysfunctional family, and she has had to come to terms with the fact that, to be happy, she must limit interactions with her family. The relationships are toxic. And even though that is the right decision for her, it is still painful for her that there are so many messages (in books, in films, everywhere) about family unity, and needing to stick together. In most cases, those messages are valid and true – but at the same time, it can be intensely painful for those when their family does NOT work that way.

        @bettyrose made a point of saying that her comment was not aimed at “this particular case”. But it is neither oversensitive nor obtuse to point out that people could possibly consider refraining from blanket statements like “a kid needs a father.” It’s just something to keep in mind.

      • Bridget says:

        When people say “kids need their father” it completely ignores concepts like safety. We’re talking about a scenario where there are serious allegations being thrown – he may be their father and we certainly hope that thins are worked out, but is his role as father more important than the children’s safety? I don’t think it’s being over sensitive at all.

    • Embee says:

      Thank you, BettyRose for your sensitive and nuanced post. Indeed, not all children need their father when said father is unsafe and inflicts harm to the children and/or mother. And it is exceedingly painful for those in that situation to read the blanket statement that all kids need their father when that’s not a safe option in their case.

  17. bellebottomblues says:

    I keep hearing about how Angie filed the way she did because she was so aghast/upset over what happened on the plane. But then I read that this was already a work in progress, that she had told Brad 3 days before that she was filing. Who knows, maybe thats one of the things they were arguing about on plane.
    So I guess it makes me 2nd guess her actions/motives.
    Like she was looking for the perfect time to bring down the hammer and didnt care who else got damaged, even her own kids that she was trying to supposedly protect.
    Im not defending Brad either, his behaviour leaves a lot to be desired.
    I’m also side eyeing the big staff of nannies claim.
    Maybe she doesnt consider a personal nanny for each child plus her brother a “big” staff.
    If I were going through the major stress of all this upheaval I sure would take advantage of any help I could get. No shame in that.
    As far as myself feeling badly about writing here about this issue, I do! But, Angie put it all out there first.
    We wouldnt be as invested in it if she kept it more private.

    • SaraR. says:

      Incident happened on 14th of September. According to their divorce filings, they separated on 15th of September, the day after. Angelina filed on 19th, which is four days after separation. She allegedly told him about it two days earlier (17th) and asked him to file jointly – he refused. If this timeline is correct, I don’t think it was a work in progress at the time of the plane incident. The incident was the trigger.

    • Lady D says:

      “she was looking for the perfect time to bring down the hammer” …or she knew there was going to be another opportunity, cause it’s not the first, and it won’t be the last time he flips.

  18. Betsy says:

    My only snide takeaway is about the nannies and household help. Why, why this need to pretend you do everything on your own? And it’s not just Angelina and Brad, it’s a theme in Hollywood. But in this instance, you have multiple presumably huge homes on multiple continents, a huge number of kids, travel, complicated schedules…. I don’t think anyone can do that all by themselves.

    • crogirl says:

      It says without big staff. I’m sure she has cooks and cleaners and teachers since kids are homeschooled but I seriously doubt it’s one or two nannies per child. Most kids are almost teens, they don’t need nannies constantly, especially now that they probably hardly leave the house. And Angie never denied having help…

      • MrsBPitt says:

        Plus, the less people in the house, the less chance of a leak to the press….I’m sure AJ is only allowing people she absolutely trusts into her home…

    • Louise177 says:

      Nobody said Angelina is alone but for years the tabloids keep insisting they have two or three nannies for each child. Yet when you look at the photos of the “nannies” they end up being relatives, friends, or other type of employees. Also Angelina and Brad have been open about having nannies and tutors. I think celebrities are sensitive to childcare because they get attacked for having nannies. Commentators keep saying they don’t love or care about their kids. A weird assumption considering most people put their kids in daycare or have relatives looking after them. I don’t see how it’s any different.

  19. Misogynist culture says:

    What about the timing with his response and allied premiere only five days later? I’m too mean but all brad always look very PR stunt #TeamNastyWomen

    • Lindsay says:

      I don’t think a really boring, standard divorce response is going to be on the radar this week. It is going to be all about the election.

  20. molly says:

    I think it was just a comment that angie is completely consumed with her childrens wellbeing at this current time. With all the hate being thrown her way by the press,they are simply saying that her children are first and foremost to her. Everyone knows they have nannies but she is saying that she is very involved in that her kids are doing ok.

  21. jane says:

    one i know is that as a mother i would o anything to protect my children from anything.
    truth is we know nothing about these people and we probably will never know what happened.just hope they can get along for the kids

  22. SZ says:

    Re: Pitt not doing press, etc. for “Allied” –

    He must remain far away from any pictures with Marion for obvious PR and other issues/reasons. Whether or not they had an affair would become the primary focus, and pics of them would fly all over the I-Net.

    If he does any press in public, he will be alone.

    The timing of his filing; timing of the film….way too close to the unfortunate rumours or truths that are going around. He has to be careful.

    In truth, I “sense” that something did go on between he and Marion, as her relationship appears solid with her partner – enough that they would have discussed it with each other with honesty from her, and understanding on his part.

    Timing, again, is also key to this mystery. They were working together in March. The pregnancy fits into that month for conception. If Amgelina even suspected (if she did not actually hire a PI) that Pitt is, indeed, the baby’s father, I can fully understand her rage and why they were fighting on the plane – as the pregnancy announcement was either that day or the day before. My belief is that they always had an “open” relationship with an agreement that he could do whatever he wanted, but NOT get anyone pregnant.

    Time will tell.

    • mbh12 says:

      I thought the press closed the book on that rumour?
      Is there more to come?
      Just asking?

    • alexsco23 says:

      my god you are a low life weirdo, do you also think man has never gone to the moon and are you a member of 9/11 Truth movement ?? it’s so obvious the cheating rumor is fake, New York Post (lol surely theleast reliable source) talked about a private investigator, so why no pics or videos of Pitt and Cotillard cheating/kissing like Kristen Stewart and Rupert Sanders ???

    • Nemera77 says:


      Brad is not the father of Marion’s child. LOL.

      Marion and her partner along with their son are in LA now. I would be shocked if Brad does not attend. As I said up thread he will be in China right after the LA premier.

    • almondmilk says:


      Give it up.

      There’s nothing about Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie that even begins to point to ‘open relationship.’

      Not he with the traditional Midwestern sensibility and purported monogamy or Angelina with her blood symbolism and fealty. She’s the type of woman that does not share.

      Where does this nonsense come from? Lol Other than the obvious: people who want to negate what they had and make it not real because they’re still not *over it.*

  23. jerkface says:

    They should never have had children. Now that the children are here these two dysfunctional butt holes need to get into therapy and cut the horse crap out immediately. That or be terrible people in a more quiet way because the world is stressed out enough as it is. Wishful typing yes I know

  24. Candies says:

    I like Angie but I don’t like it when women/men remember they have gold in their hands when they losing…the same was for ja she was champing and then she went nuts when he got Angie b/c they had her losing etc…
    I think the divorce is a must unless a big Change IMO. I root for family together but no way he should sign for the same ugly thing they had become neither she (even before divorce file).my opinion good luck..
    BTW I understand why Angie filed but still they were getting boring and ugly and it looked it was a matter of time before they seem to have one final turn around. then not long after that the shocking divorce file and dealing with child services …

  25. TheOtherSam says:

    I don’t understand all the hand-wringing about this custody issue. Pitt asked for joint physical & legal custody, and this will be granted. Period. There isn’t much Jolie can do about it, if in fact she is opposed to it at all – as stated above she only asked for full temporary custody during the initial separation and DCFS investigation. There hasn’t been any evidence she intends to ask for full permanent custody.

    If Pitt had a criminal history, or was a known hard drug abuser, or had a long, distinct and provable pattern of serious abuse of his wife or children (NOT a recent pattern, or one or two recent incidents) – these are the type of situations where his custody request would be questioned or open to opposition. None of these apply to our current knowledge.

    They are splitting but are going to share their children and compromise on decisions re them. Same as the vast majority of couples who unfortunately split up today. Let them get on with it.