Last Friday, Angelina Jolie filed paperwork with the court to solidify the temporary custodial situation with the six Jolie-Pitt kids. Basically, the temporary solution that Jolie and Brad Pitt agreed to during the CPS investigation would stay in place until Jolie and Pitt worked out something more permanent. Some people believed that Jolie filed that paperwork simply as a public sign that she was not in control of how often Brad got to see the kids – the temporary solution was and is that a psychiatrist decides when and how Brad gets monitored visits. All of this went unanswered (as far as we know) but Brad and his legal team. Until now. Brad filed papers asking for the custodial arrangement situation to be sealed.
Brad Pitt is going to court to keep his custody war with Angelina Jolie private, and sources connected with Brad say his motivation is to thwart her from further damaging their children by airing their dirty laundry in public. Sources connected to the case tell TMZ … Brad filed docs Tuesday in family court, requesting an emergency hearing. We’re told he intends to ask the judge to seal all documents and proceedings related to his and Angelina’s ongoing battle for custody of their 6 kids.
Several sources say Angelina filed the documents because she feared Brad was angling to change their temporary agreement so that he could have unmonitored visits with the children. We’re told Angelina is relying on the family therapist, who says it’s too early for Brad to have unmonitored visits — but she does want him to have solo visits … once the therapist signs off.
Sources connected with Brad, however, are calling BS … saying the only document filed in the case is the one Angelina blasted out to the world … exposing their 6 children to needless pain. Our Brad sources say there was no reason for Angelina to file a private agreement, and make it public other than to trash Brad and make the children collateral damage. We’re told he has made NO move to change the private agreement that was always meant to remain private — and he feels by gratuitously making it public the way Jolie did … it’s evidence she’s a bad parent.
Brad will get his shot within a few hours to argue the case should remain private. We’re told the emergency hearing is slated for Wednesday morning.
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I mean, didn’t we always know that the custody battle was going to get worse before it ever got better? I personally think that Jolie filed those papers last Friday because she didn’t want Brad and his people to accuse her of keeping the kids away from him (which, no surprise, they were already doing). She wanted to make it clear – to People Magazine, to TMZ, to everybody else – that it was the psychiatrist’s call, not hers. As for Brad filing this new paperwork… okay. I agree, all of the custodial documents should be sealed. But if they are sealed, will Team Brad stop leaking the info to TMZ and People?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
“and he feels by gratuitously making it public the way Jolie did … it’s evidence she’s a bad parent.”
FU Brad!
I refrained from commenting on their threads for ages….but God, he’s coming across really bad with each passing hour…. even if he is right, he should not attack the mother of his children; if a therapist is there, there has been some sort of trauma for the children. Work together damn it, seal the documents without telling TMZ, too difficult?
Does anyone know if you can ask to have the documents sealed when you first file for divorce? Or file a response to that divorce? How did Angelina and Brad go almost three months without either of them asking to have the case sealed?
I am so glad you brought up the fact that his team has been leaking bad stories about Angelina sin e this whole thing started. Did he think she would not defend herself? His team has been feeding negative stories about her to TMZ a d People all along. Stand up for yourself Angelina.
He’s been denied.
So you know for a fact that Brad said she was a bad parent? People do believe what they want to believe don’t they.
The irony in your statement is too shiny to ignore.
I agree v4real. We don’t know what is true, what is from him or her or made up.
Poor Brad – Angelina has been attacked for months and his team has leaked lots of stuff to TMZ, People to get the public on his side.
But now that Angelina does file something legal and it gets leaked and the world can see the truth – he suddenly has issues with things being leaked?
As I wrote on the other thread – Brad has lost my respect completely. He doesn’t care about his children or their mother – it’s all about him and his image.
If he did this before the media attacked Angelina and dragged their son into this mess then I would have applauded him.
Now – I just want Angelina to continue to be strong and tell the truth.
Um sorry but the leaks started from Jolie, the plane incident was obviously made public by jolie. If either if them really cared for their children (some who are old enough to access the internet) they would have kept this as private as possible. Both are constantly leaking to the media bc their public image is more important than protecting their children.
Wasn’t the plane incident made public because someone else (not Jolie) called the police about Pitt’s behavior? That was my take and then she reacted quickly with divorce. The rest of the leaks I don’t know but the initial incident I thought was out before either of them could do anything about it.
Sometimes I do avoid commenting on Brad and AJ but there are times I just can’t resist. This is one of those times. I agree with @Jade. AJ drew first blood when she went running to the press with the divorce filing claiming it’s for the health of her family. If she felt she had to make a public statement she could have just said irreconcilable differences like a lot of celebs do when they divorce. They are both leaking info but yet die- hard fans want to paint the picture that Brad is the bad guy and Angie’s hands are clean. Both of them are trying to protect their image IMO.
But to say Brad doesn’t care about his children is a stretch unless you know him personally. We could say AJ doesn’t care about her children because if she did she wouldn’t have been the first to go to the press about the divorce and announce it the way she did. That backfired on her so now she’s trying a different approach. What has Brad said to the press that we know for a fact that he actually said.
Oh come on – they were the most famous couple in the world and the divorce would come out either way. You are really stretching will laying the blame on Angelina for this.
So Angelina is not allowed to file for divorce the way she wanted to?
Again – Brad’s people confirmed he was drunk and pushed Maddox. And yet you don’t seem to care about that.
I didn’t say anything about Brad until a few weeks ago.
If he really did care for his children then he would have told the media to not attack Maddox but he didn’t. That’s enough for me to say that he cares more about his image.
I agree V4real, there was no need to make the suspected abuse public. I think they are both at fault here and are fighting to protect their respective images, when they should be thinking ONLY about their kids.
Thank you. I don’t want to comment either because if you say anything anti Angie on here you get piled on, but this whole narrative that Brad is the bad guy is getting more absurd by the minute. There is so much speculation, but what we do know is that she has gratuitously filed these public motions without any thought for the privacy of her kids. I highly doubt either one of them is a saint, but come on. At best both of their hands are dirty at this point. Sad all the way around.
yal…. get real… angie did start it publicly…. why cant they joint parent…..i mean he was cleared by investigation…and his drug alcohol test have come back clean…i dont understand
@V4real
Your post really doesn’t make sense to me, even after reading it twice. It is filled with the usual back bitinrg of Angelina one finds on these boards. Sometimes covert, other times couched in insistent yet false neutrality – it’s always there.
As an Angelina (and Brad and Brangelina) fan, it seems there are certain people i usually have ended up countering and debating on these boards regarding various stories about them over the years. It seems you’ve been one of them most of the time. So to say you don’t post or avoid posting about them. … Well, Lol
That said…it’s simple really:
AJ “drew first blood” as you claim (by the way, that’s sooo not biased at all, lol) and filed for divorce/temp physical custody for the ‘health of her family,’ because Brad:
a) did nothing
b) did something that wasn’t that bad that Angelina is blowing out of proportion to get what she wants, i.e., her kids and primary custody (this would involve gaslighting/setting him up for a fall, or any no. of even more evil Maleficent-esque behaviors).
or c) Brad has long had alcohol/substance abuse ‘issues’ (that he himself has discussed), that have gotten increasingly worse/debilitating and were affecting the well-being of his family. The public incident on the plane was so egregious with their eldest son, it was the proverbial straw. Angelina acted not only on behalf of possibly traumatized kids, but for the ‘health of the family’ (which includes Pitt) to try and scare him straight and sober.
Now, you can believe B.
While I believe C.
I believe based on who Angelina portends to be – a very responsible, honest and proven adult without malice who cares for her children and Brad – that there is no other answer but C.
To believe B, you have to believe she is not who she says she is. Thus B, for Angelina detractors/haters is a most cherished preference.
That she be exposed and subsequently turn in Brad, the Dame-ship, the Herscholt Oscar, her UN position and in a hater’s perfect world, her children and her beautiful face.
@AlmondMilk
I said sometimes I avoid commenting on AJ and Brad post. Do you know the meaning of sometimes?
Lastly please go back and find the last time I have commented on a Brad and AJ post. I have missed commenting on several post lately. So you have just discredited yourself with your false information. Don’t let your dislike of me turn you into a liar. I won’t even bother to read the rest of your rant since you just destroyed your credibility. Miss me with your nonesense.
@v4real. Totally agree with you. And I hope both sides stop “leaking” any stories about the divorce so we never have to hear about it again.
Brad’s PR machine is working very hard. He is in control damage- mode right now. After the fabricated drama about TG day while the true was that the guy was in a island for vacation (maybe he needed take a brake of his own b.s)
Of course he needs do it privately now with all the details of the agreement make it clear that there are issues with Brad that he needs to address which is why he is required to undergo individual and group therapy, and drug and alcohol testing, and that therapist (Dr. Russ) requires proof of his compliance to be submitted to him. Those are the parts Brad likely didn’t want to be made public.
+100000
He made his children need therapy but she is the bad parenting.
He is leaking or badmouthing her all the time but she is bad person when she only shows us the facts( hence agreements they have).
F ck you Pitt.
Yes this shouldnt be so public and it is horrible that are cannibalising each other but she obviously the one being drag in the press .she is the bad parent but he is the one having supervising visits .
That these facts are ignored is interesting, isn’t it?
Yep. The capes are really out for Brad on this thread. lol
We have court filings from AJ. The leaks to the press I’m ignoring. I’m all for the court filings being sealed. Actions are all I’m looking at.
I don’t demonize either one as a parent, they’re both doing what they think is best for their kids, IMO. People can be wrong about those things, hopefully in time it will get better. Divorce is never pretty. But, I’m not so invested that I’m not seeing the simple facts either.
How did HE make his kids needing therapy?? Jolie filed for divorce with the argument”for the health of my family”, starting rumors about Pitt being an abusive alcoholic. If she really had their kids interests (and mental &emotional health) in mind, she would have announced the divorce like most celebs do, citing irreconcilable differences. Nothing else.
She actually didn’t announce anything. She filed legal documents, TMZ admittedly has scouts on payroll for celebrity filings and THEY broke the details of what was cited.
She also requested temporary sole custody.
The rest is pure speculation on who leaked what to who.
@Wendy: I did not say she announced anything. But she obviously filed for divorce with exactly this argument: for the health of her family. And you don’t do that if you want this to be a qiet, private happening. Jolie is experienced enough to know this would ‘leak’.
This is so ugly. They were on top of the world just 6 months ago. What a mess. I hope they keep the kids first.
Angie praised Brad for years publicly, and said he was a wonderful father repeatedly.
How could this family fall apart so tragically? I understand Brad was drinking, and there was an incident with Maddox. However, they have access and financial means for counselling/therapy.
Families have conflicts every day-especially with teenagers. They don’t dismantle the family because of one horrible incident. Something else is causing this breakup. I still suspect there was cheating on Brad’s part. We may never know the truth.
True. Brad was photographed many time flying solo to Europe and even riding around LA. The on l y time over the past year that he was pictured with the kids was on July 4th with Angelina and on the twins birthday a gain with Angelina. But he missed Fathers Day and at least two family birthdays. They have been having trouble for over a year. I am sure him doing two movies back to back away from the family did not help.
Bradley is really in the arena isn’t he? Did he really thought he was going to have a pass this time like when he divorced Aniston? Don’t worry Brad your image of pretty boy is over and like JD your movies are also bombing. Allied is a completely disaster in terms of BO. Not even $30M in 13 days. wow.
Gotta love how the media isn’t giving “Poor Brad” a hard time for bombing. Must be nice to have powerful friends who protect you and smear the mother of your kids.
Why didn’t he do this weeks ago?
The tabloids have been working hard to make Brad the good guy in this and it still was not enough to cover up his behavior. So know he cares about the kids that he wants everything shut down. Not when Angelina was being bashed or some people were insinuating that his son was lying or that Angelina was over reacting to his behavior.
I will concede that he is right; I am side-eyeing and questioning the timing of his filing.
Agree with you!
I don’t know which side is right, and I have a feeling both sides are doing crap to each other. I understand AJ wanting to solidify the agreement they made in October. What I don’t understand is why she didn’t seal them when she filed, or requested it to be sealed as well. I don’t think Pitt’s farts are roses, and I think he has stuff to work out. I think AJ is probably pissed the hell off too. But leaking court documents, and agreements that should remain a family matter seems so slimy to me. I don’t care if it’s Pitt or AJ, both need to stop this campaign of humiliation. I wish both would love their kids, more than they hate each other right now.
I tend to agree, I think both have made it more public than it should be, putting out statements through reps and “sources” that dig at each other. It should have been sealed from day 1, given the public interest in their split. Their custody agreement, temporary or long term, should be between them and the courts, not public knowledge.
Court documents are public. Once she filed, TMZ looked into the court case and found them. They weren’t sealed by Jolie or Pitt until now. Someone asked yesterday, why didn’t Jolie or Pitt file a long time ago.
Both of them should have requested everything to be sealed. All court documents have always been available to the public unless sealed. I don’t like what each are doing to the other.
I agree.. nothing wrong with wanting the document more binding. But now all of that information is out and that is not a good thing for them or the kids. That document is too detailed. The public knows TOO MUCH and TOO LITTLE and now there is speculation that shouldn’t be there. They have always managed to keep things very private. But this is just too wide opened. and it is more sensitive and delicate because it involves their children that will read this one day. Not to mention strangers speculation. It all should have been sealed. That should have been the way it was handled.
Brad F***** up.. and that is obvious. I just think Angie is sticking it to him and that is obvious too. They both need to lock this down. I don’t however believe they are leaking things to TMZ.. I think the stories are based on the information we have seen and again because it is all being put out there that is feeding this mess. Such a shame. I like them both very much.. and this is just sad it is ending like this. I thought better of them both.
I think she was referring to: But leaking court documents, and agreements that should remain a family matter seems so slimy to me
IIRC and the reports are true it was fans that discovered it first. (Why you a scouring public documents constantly in hope that your favorite celebrity does something or is mentioned is a whole other story.) But the people who reported didn’t leak anything and she didn’t want this to stay private so calling them slimy seems unfair.
That’s a very good question, and I cannot understand why they wouldn’t both have asked that the records be sealed for the good of the children.
Everything had quieted down on the divorce/custody and no one was talking about them. Then, AJ puts it out there front and center again.
I think she is really angry with Brad, and it could be more than just this situation. Just speculating, of course.
After 2 months of being attacked left right and centre – I applaud Angelina for fighting back.
And no – it has not been quiet, TMZ and DailyMail have done everything they can to ruin Angelina.
Brad decided to care more about his image then his children.
I am not going to applaud Angelina, or Brad for fighting back at all. Because when they are “fighting back”, the only thing those two accomplish is hurting the kids. So if you can applaud them actively both hurting their children, than go right ahead. But I won’t condone that behavior from either of them. Neither of these two idiots should be doing what they are doing to each other. Both need to grow up and stop trying to bash the other. And if both can’t, then one of them needs to be adult enough to ignore the others public tantrum.
I agree but the tabloids only seem interested in neg a give Angelina stories. Brad is stl the golden boy.
Yes Nicole, well said. This is why they need family therapy.
I totally agree with everything you said.
Paisley…I agree! AJ has never been one to address public speculation, or tabloid crap! She held her head high, and just went on with her life. I’m not buying she filed this new paperwork to prove to the world that she isn’t keeping the kids from Brad. I just don’t think she cares what the public thinks about her. I think she is mad as hell at Brad for something! Either something with the kids, or some kind of infidelity, or something else! Just my opinion….something else is going to come out about this divorce…
So are you saying that AJ never spins or manipulates the press? Just look at the team she has employed. They both do it, sadly.
MrsBPitt: Yes! 😀
It never got quiet. In recent weeks we’ve seen stories from People, TMZ, and other publications claiming, “Angelina didn’t invite Brad to Thanksgiving dinner”, ” Pitt is sad he can’t see his kids because Jolie wouldn’t allow him”. Yes, it’s been so quiet.
Now that he’s been caught lying, he wants everything sealed. Aww, are we embarassed, Brad? He can’t use his golden ‘she won’t let me see the kids’ line anymore, either. Flipping hypocrite.
He just can’t stand his have to decide to see him, who the bad parent now? when you visitation is under the hand of you kids and therapist smh
Well well well…. I’m glad people are seeing through Brad’s fake concern at least on this site…… Its all about him. Poor Brad.. You must dance to the music you started a fifty something year old man acting like a man child! It’s all about his freaking image
I think it’s about both of their image. If you think AJ doesn’t care about her image you’re fooling yourself. Brad is no saint but AJ hands are not clean either. Remember she was the first one who made their divorce public and issued a statement claiming it’s for the health of her family. She didn’t have to say anything or she could have just said irreconcilable difference. IMO she tried to paint Brad as the bad guy from the start but it backfired on her when as some of you say the press painted her as the bad person. I think they are both playing dirty and neither one of them are putting their children first in this mess.
AJ didn’t issue a statement. That “for the health of the family” came from her court filings. And what kind of argument is, she started it? SMH
He will find a new twentysomething, if he hasn’t already, and have another kid. His image is all important to him, not his kids.
It’s been a long time since Brad had girlfriends in their twenties. Not since he was in his thirties, really. Aniston was in her thirties when they were married in the early 00’s. Jolie was in her thirties when she and Brad had a family together. Brad is no Dicaprio.
This is what Angelina should have filed had Olivia Pope been on her game. He who seals the child custody battle wins the public narrative. Just wait a few hours and look at the comments sections around the world. Olivia be slacking.
Hopefully Angelina wins this because she is the only one who is behaving like a parent.
I politely beg to differ.
There’s no winner here.
Jolie can’t win over the people that are hell bent on thinking she’s a monster and trying to keep Pitt from their kids.
For whatever reason, I’m so glad this was done. I thought all custody issues were private anyway but whatever has to be done to make it actually happen seems like a good step for the kids involved.
I’ve nothing but deepest loathing for either of the parents. I’ve said it in earlier threads that I’ve been the kid in a situation like this. I resent both of my parents and I don’t care if one of them was more right than the other. Keep this sh-t out of the public.
And I don’t believe either of these people. Not Angelina, not Brad.
They’re both bad parents. For shuffling the kids around the world when kids need at least a semblance of stability, roots, -friends-, discipline. And for shouting at them, fighting in front of them, abusing substances in front of them.
Funny thing is, it’s not different from your average dysfunctional family. I believe most families are similarly dysfunctional. Which makes it all the more jarring when crap like this is dissected in public. I’ll be very interested in the tell-alls these kids will write in 20 years. Or scratch that, I’m really not. Because they shouldn’t be experiencing or be witness to any of this.
I am in agreement with you. They didn’t think of the kids when growing into a family of 8 when they weren’t married and had only known each other a few years. Delusions of grandeur. Selfishly dragging them around the world trying to convince themselves, the public and brainwashing the innocent kids into thinking it was some sort of novel undertaking. Then when the two narcissists decided they were through with each other the bad behavior and acting came out. Not so noble eh? And the poor kids have NO FOUNDATION to turn to in the upheaval because they were allowed to run the show. This is why children have bedtimes and boundaries while they are developing, so a foundation for a stable future can be built.
Oh if it isn’t the ‘bedtimes and boundaries’ brigade, eh @anna?
Lol. I’ve read Angelina and Brad’s kids have both bed times and boundaries. So does that mean you’re confused, or just like making things up?
As for their ‘humanitarian work’ be it opening schools and AIDS clinics in devastated parts of the world, helping the less fortunate, rebuilding a community in New Orleans devastated by man made (broken levees)and natural disaster, Katrina. Sorry, but the public doesn’t have to be “brainwashed” into seeing these things as a “novel undertaking,” though i think you mean NOBLE, yes? Well they ARE noble actions. Helping less fortunate people in the world, is a noble way to be, and whether they are together or apart- I’m sure their kids understand that and will try to emulate that as well- they set a fine example of humanitarianism for many even if their marriage dissolves.
“Bad behavior and acting?”
That’s an odd way to refer to someone who may be in the throes of an addiction/disease and the one having to protect children from that. This is not a new human condition. People go through this every day. They either get it together with some help or they don’t. That’s no reason to retroactively demonize their entire 12 year long union, and say it was always bad, they were always fake, and their kids were raised by wolves. While it may give one temporary satisfaction to act so unseemly, it just sounds completely unhinged.
But you do you.
As for your screaming “NO FOUNDATION,” one need only Google to see 12 years of birthday parties at their home in Cali, or holidays with their Missouri Grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins, their schools and soccer matches and the loving relationship they have with both of their parents.
So, while you obviously have a need to denigrate their entire 12 year family unit and relationship, you’ll have to wait for that Mommy or Daddy Dearest book you seem to think with a certainty is in the works.
*noble undertaking
@shijel
You’re free to make up your own narrative. But I’d remind you that you don’t know anything about these people. Since you’re obviously not a fan and never have been, you know less than I do. The factual information you could choose to take into account, you’re choosing to ignore and dismiss like many of the usual suspects on these boards.
There’s a double standard operating here that is foul. Kind of like Trump and Hillary all over again. Her ’emails’ VS his grabbing of V’s and racism.
When most of the usual suspects know, that had it been Brad filing for divorce and temporary custody because of a drunk and out of control alcoholic Angelina (who was being investigated by no less than 4 agencies because she chose to act out publicly on a plane) – there would be Friends fan clubs and Angelina detractors/haters as well as those who did their utmost keeping resentments towards her hidden…cheering him on as the savior parent- they would have called Angelina every name in the book, and been orgasmic that she had been exposed for a fraud. Brad’s filing for divorce would have been seen as an effort to scare Angelina straight, and the findings and recommendations for such a public traumatic incident and breakdown on a plane could have been looked at as transparency into the process…especially since in this hypothetical reversal of misfortune Angelina (like Brad) does not want to step up and admit to alcoholism.
No one would blame Brad. In fact, they’d say Angelina deserved all the humiliation especially if it ushered her into rehab that much quicker and got her own the road to sobriety.
But alas, our hypothetical is just that – it’s Brad who effed up. Like Trump, Brad’s problem is being normalized and dismissed. So what he may have attacked his kid (so what Trump grabs P-words) Angelina is making too much of it… It was 10 years ago and Bully Bush made him do it.
Yup I agree. Too much misogyny in here..sigh.
Almondmilk, you are on fire today.
Brad Pitt is like Donald Trump? That’s a legitimate argument you’re using?
You’re a lunatic.
@Sigh really!!! .. Lack of reading comprehension
Get out of my head. I made the same argument on another site. The false equivalence, the misogyny, the fake concern.
Brad voluntarily signed this document because that was probably the only way the DCFS would have closed the case and as soon as it was closed he sought to change it. You are not wrong about the comparison to Hillary and Trump. Men are always given a a pass.
Come through almondmilk. I couldn’t agree with you more. Oh and by the by, Brad’s request has been denied.
@sigh,
There is zero reason for ad hominem attacks here. Express yourself without insulting others, please.
Omg, really? Those poor kids had to travel around the world, live in the lap of luxury, have private tutors, and see the world. What horrible parents. Puleez. They have multiple homes around the world, it’s not as if they were living out of hotel rooms. Those kids are lucky to have been all the places they have been and they were there with their parents. They got to learn that not everyone has it as good as them. That is not a bad thing
The moment AJ filed and attached the statement ” for the safety of our family ” I knew this was going to be a mess. Clearly she fired the 1st shot. I’m in the midst of a similar type divorce and insinuations like these don’t help a family heal they just throw gas on the fire. While I’m certain BP’s not blameless, AJ went public first and set the stage.
Totally agree. I’ve been a huge AJ fan since she first appeared on the scene, but I don’t like what’s going on know. I don’t like how she filed “For the health of her family” and then seemed to just hole up, sit back and allow Brad to be “investigated for child abuse” – implying to the world that he was guilty. Remember, my friends, he was CLEARED. This means not an abuser. So why didn’t Angelina at least come forward with a statement to say, as she has been saying for a decade “Brad is, overall, a wonderful father! Not an abuser” She wanted us to doubt him. And for many of her fans, it’s working.
YES, it seems things got heated on that plane ride, and YES he parties more than he should, or more than she wanted him to, making him act like a total jerk, perhaps even often. But come on!! She fired the first shot, as @anniefannie says, and then, she let the deep doubt be sowed. Why? Because, IMO, she wants full control of “her” kids. Brad knows he screwed up on the plane, but he must feel blindsided by her abrupt and complete dismissal of him. Maybe he still really loves her, and can see she’s going off the rails, maybe he’s just freaked. However, enough is enough. I’m glad he is in court now asking for privacy. Sorry, that’s my take. If I’m wrong, then Angelina has been lying to us for 12 years about how great Brad is. Take your pick.
+1 Especially this part of your comment.
“If I’m wrong, then Angelina has been lying to us for 12 years about how great Brad is.”
This was very well stated.
CrazyDaisy, I totally agree with your take on this. I was a Brangeloonie but this has been an eye opening split and neither comes off looking the better for it. That said, Angelina has historically been lauded for her masterful manipulation of the press. This is just more of the same. I think Brad’s finally pushing back. As well he should. They are not HER kids; they are theirs. She needs to accept that. Poor kiddos…
Angie should come with a statement???!!! You must be kidding. What about Brad? It was HIM who misbehaved on the plane. It was HIM whose actions brought FBI and DCFS into their lives. It was HIM who let his oldest son be accused of being a brat. Because of HIS actions the children have to attend the therapy. She was the non offensive parent during the investigation and you claim she should come out and praise Brad’s parental skills. LOL
Angelina contrary to Brad did issue a statement after the investigation closed. Her representatives said she was relived it’s over and that now they could continue to heal the family. Sounds fair to me. The only thing Brad’s reps cared to comment about since the divorce filing was the bodyguard story. Why not the stories about Maddox or the one of Angie keeping Brad away from the children? Why? Because ‘poor Brad’ seems to care only about his own image. Sad.
And you know, Brad might have been an amazing father and partner, but obviously something has changed in the last year or so. Him spending so much time away from the family is a proof to that. He was not only avoiding Angie but also his children, the same children his sources now claim he misses so much.
Yes, crazy Daisy!
Thank you @o.o +1000
@crazydaisy
I’m sorry, i don’t get your post, or the people agreeing with it.
Then again, i happen to like Angelina Jolie and also, I’m not a misogynist. So different worldview perhaps.
Let me just say this: the entire credibility of this post was destroyed with the statement ‘Angelina just sat back and ALLOWED Brad to be investigated for child abuse.’
As if she could have stopped an investigation by no less than four agencies. As if she could have magically sobered him up in public with a twitch of her nose, and like the ‘men in black’ held a flashy thing up to whomever saw the incident and erased it from their memory banks.
He was cleared of an assault on a plane and having been an ongoing child abuser. That doesn’t clear him of possibly being an increasingly out of control alcoholic in front of his kids (not a crime yet) which is why he’s in therapy now and his visits are monitored.
Why should Angelina have to make a statement reaffirming Brad’s non-drunk sterling qualities for you? It’s not like you’ll admit to ever believing what she says. The game is to pretend neutrality (even fandom.. Guffaw) all the while back-handing Angelina – that way one doesn’t get tagged as a hater. I’ve seen it done for a decade.
Besides, the point of filing for divorce and the ‘health of her family’ is to usher Brad into rehab of some kind i believe. Which many think he’s in right now. The comments on his improved less bloated non-shade wearing appearances seem to speak to that. That being said, why would she say what you posted “Brad is overall a wonderful father who did get out of control on a plane and should be in rehab.”
Isn’t that up to Brad to say? Is she his puppet master?
Besides i believed her the first time and the 14th time she said it.
Only someone who’s deliberately being obtuse, would childishly claim that BOTH things can’t possibly be true: If Brad messed up because of possible alcohol issues that have gotten the better of him in recent years, that means from 2005-2013 he sucked too?
Really? Can we grow up?
Here’s a suggestion…
How about Brad make a statement that he’s an alcoholic and he’s trying to clean up. That he loves his kids and he’ll do whatever he can to be with them and heal his family.
That would clear up a lot, namely the back hands that people are enjoying giving Angelina.
Also @yup
Angelina has not been “lauded for her masterful manipulation of the press,” she’s been demonized for being smart and in control.
The whole ‘master manipulator’ trope is just one more way to insult her by inferring she’s soooo evil and diabolical that she HAS to have been a genius PR flack herself to have ~transformed~ into the responsible adult, mom and humanitarian she is today.
Or Occam’s razor – she’s always been a good person and she just (gasp!) grew up.
Pretty sure Angelina knows they are not just “HER kids,” as you screamed. Pretty sure she wants a healthy sober father in their life and when he demonstrates that to his therapist she’ll welcome him back herself. She said at the outset it was only temporary. But keep pushing the vengeful nasty Angelina narrative. Boy the tabloids know women very well.
You say you were a brangeloonie eh? Yea, I’m gonna need receipts.
If during those 12 years she said he’s a bad father everytime they asked her, won’t people said that she should keep their dirty laundry private and solved their family problem without putting it in public? Heck, my mom hates my dad with all her heart. Yet, she stays married with him till now and never tell outsider what a bad husband/father she think he was/is. Sometimes, something is easier said than done. As Jane.fr said down below, he could be a good father at some times and a bad father during other times.
Yes!
“If I’m wrong, then Angelina has been lying to us for 12 years about how great Brad is.”
We don’t know much about what happened. Except that a drunk Brad went into a very public and violent altercation with his son.
But I do know that alcohol /drugs abuse change people. A former colleague divorce her husband when he started drinking and being violent after more than 15 good years of marriage.
Brad could have /may have been great for 12 years and horrible the last months.
Which should please every Brad Fan. Then, once his alcohol/drug problems are solved, he could go back to being great.
@anniefannie
Brad purportedly got drunk and attacked their child on a plane, in public. Brad may be a raging alcoholic. Brad was investigated by no less than four agencies.
You can believe that or not.
But what part of “for the safety of the family,” or “health of the family,” (<– is what I thought she said in her statement..) is inappropriate to say or untrue if that traumatic incident did indeed happen?
If you're trying to help a loved one clean up and save his relationship with his kids, would it be best to cover for him constantly. Pretend it didn't happen to the press or let them include you in the public mayhem and maybe have your parental rights stripped?
That's what people in my family did with addicts (cover, lie) and that never ends well.
Using a public statement about the end of a marriage isn’t the forum to persuade your ex to seek help. AJ had to know how the inclusion of that unneeded additional info would create a firestorm. This was all strategy and if that’s how she wants to operate, fine but own it!
This is Brad trying to deflect the humiliation he feels over having to have supervised visits with his children. The question is, if he was cleared of all the wrongdoing, why do his visits still have to be supervised? Something is not making sense.
I am getting really bad vibes from this guy. He is acting like a spiteful teenager. I don’t think he gives a damn about the children. I don’t think he even tried to see them over Thanksgiving. He hasn’t tried to see them for much of the past year. This is all about maintaining his image as a good father and trying to smear Angie as a bad mother.
At the end of the day, Pitt is a big man-baby who is all about himself. I’m done with his movies and done with him.
I have to say that I have long thought that he said something extremely hurtful to/about his adopted children on the plane in his intoxicated state, in addition to some kind of physical altercation. I can totally see him blaming their problems on the children- he seems the type to resent the increasing attention that the mother provides her children at the expense of attention to the father. It happens regularly. Some work through it, some implode. This could explain a lot of issues regarding psychologist/SW/ oversight, and letting the children have complete say in their readiness to see him.
Because that was the deal he made while they were under investigation. Until they work it out privately or get a court date this is the plan.
I don’t think he sealing them because he doesn’t want the public to know. He isn’t an idiot he knows it is out there and going to court increase the exposure.
I don’t think he is fighting supervised visits for three reasons. One he will have a witness to attest to his parenting skills. Two, the kids are going through a lot someone around to help them process all this is not a bad thing. Over Thanksgiving I wished there was a therapist in the living room who could offer insight, advice, and help dealing with certain family members. Three, it isn’t the traumatizing supervised visits mere mortals gets. If you have supervised visitation you typically have to go to a social services center, you are in a plexiglass-glass box, every time you touch your kids you have people watching and judging, anything you give them has to be inspected and approved and the arrival of the custodial and non-custodial parents are highly choreographed. You are in an austere room, that for the kids is boring, uncomfortable, and unfamiliar. You sometime witness drama going on in other rooms. It isn’t a great environment. They are at their home with their toys and their things and the ability to go off somewhere separate for a while, they don’t feel like zoo exhibits and they are used to staff being around. If he was only seeing them at child services then I would wonder.
+1000…and I also agree with o.o as well.
TMZ’s reporting is so one-sided.
Just laugh and move on. It isn’t even worth the effort it takes to shake my head.
Will Team Brad stop leaking the info to TMZ and People? Don’t count on it, and let us not forget Us Weekly, and Page Six.
Do we know exactly what he did that would make him need monitored visits with his children? I know a little about the incident with Maddox but was that truly bad enough to warrant needing someone to watch him? I thought he didn’t physically touch him, maybe I’m confused. This is still so crazy to me, goes to show you never know what goes on behind closed doors! I’m more siding with Angelina here but she’s leaking info too, they both play the press game.
Yep.
He was cleared of any abuse, so perhaps those stories about monitored meetings with the kids might not even be true.
…legally reprehensible abuse…at the scene.
Hurling insults at your children is unfortunately not illegal. But it is very traumatising for them. That could be the reason for the monitored meetings.
@Jane.fr: That’s possible, true. But honestly, we all still don’t know what really happened.
@Jane.fr
That is exactly what I said, above.
My opinion of BOTH of them has been lowered so much.
I understand there is a degree of things (speculative reporting/”sources”/etc) outside their control – but I feel like so much of this could be avoided. Whether they like it or not, they ARE in the public eye, and so are their children.
I hate seeing news pop up on them. Those poor kids.
Angelina released one statement and then nothing for 2 months while Brad has constantly used TMZ and other sites to attack Angelina.
Do you know that for sure?
I have to admit, I am a little surprised at his priorities. I really thought he was all about the family. Instead he chooses image and money over young and apparently damaged children. Such a hero.
Nothing for two months because that statement backfired on her. And Brad doesn’t have to use TMZ or any other sites. People in the media game report what they want to report. You of all people should know that since you’re one of the ones that claims the media has always been against Angie and tries to paint her as an evil person. If that’s so, why would they change now. Brad don’t have to say a word if the media was already against AJ but now it seems as if you and others are blaming Brad for what the media is doing to AJ but haven’t the media always done that.
We can also say that AJ chose her image and humanitarian work over her children. Fans keep saying Brad is choosing his image. But that’s what AJ did,. She was the first to open her mouth to the press but they keep overlooking that. We know this woman can keep things quiet until she is ready for it to be public. That’s why no one knew about her surgery or her marriage, not even the ones who think they know everything about her.
Again YOU seem to have issues with the fact that Angelina released one statement about the divorce but don’t seem to care that Brad did something on that plane.
You attack her on one statement but again don’t care that Brad’s people has released several.
Yes the media has been against Angelina but since the divorce – it has been worse. Brad has actual people leaking stuff to TMZ.
Brad is very powerful and he has never been attacked by the media ever for anything.
He should bloody well man up for his children’s sake and stop hurting their mother for something HE did.
I think the fair thing here is to acknowledge that either they both leaked or neither did. You cant insist that one had nothing to do with adverse coverage of the other because s/he made no official statements and still claim that all adverse coverage of themselves is leaked. I am more interested in how Brad managed to get TMZ to flip sides. Harvey was riding the Jolie train hard those first two months.
Can I also say, please stop it with “man up” comments. There are better ways to phrase your thoughts. “Man up” is steeped in both misogyny and misandry, it has no place in 2016. Try “a good father would..” instead.
Of course Jolie’s sources leaked information. Why else hire a super team? How else did we know she hired a super team? Why did Etheridge and Perez come out and say that they were contacted by people of her team? You think she pumps money into this team for them to twiddle their thumbs? Clearly with the custody case; it’s just following professional advice but that doesn’t mean that both parties weren’t leaking info left and right to the media.
Maya, you and other stans maintained that if a divorce would happen, it would be clean cut. Hidden. Private. That didn’t happen from the get go because of Jolie. Pitt was automatically on the defensive which is a bad position to be in. And then you still claimed they were hashing things out and maybe would be together again in the future. Not going to happen. Now only Pitt is the bad guy here. How many times are you going to rewrite your opinions about two Moviestars who are so clearly obsessed with their image like any run-of-the-mill Moviestar. Accept the facts, they are not putting the kids first. Maybe this emergency hearing is the start of the privacy those kids need.
Oh and Pitt has praised Jolie during the relationship and he got ripped to shreds by the media and Aniston fans still mourning their marriage. And even praised her for being a good mother at the start of this divorce, if people could back off with spreading rumours. But i don’t understand why stans want him to speak up now when Jolie and Pitt NOT speaking up when they got blasted for stupid things or about divorce rumours was a good thing?
“I am more interested in how Brad managed to get TMZ to flip sides. Harvey was riding the Jolie train hard those first two months.”
Same here. Every major tabloid is pro Brad! I find that really interesting. For all the talk of Angelina’s powerful manipulation games she is losing PR war. IMO.
@V4Real
Let’s be real. If Angelina is making this matter public Pitt is doing the same thing. Suddenly People mag is anti-Jolie. Every time we get an update on this divorce on People from a Brad source. When Brad saw his kids for the first time, it was reported by a Brad source on PEOPLE.
Brad spent Thanksgiving in Turks and Cairos that was also reported by a Brad source on PEOPLE. The most recent article that practically slams Angelina is also pro Brad. I’ve never seen People so pro brad and anti Angelina until now. The stories about Angelina moving to London were untrue. Usually People would report information like this. Not one peep from them. Why? It would look at Angelina in a positive light and that can’t happen if every PEOPLE article is coming through a Brad source.
@Maya Do you really think AJ hasn’t had any info leaked. If you believe that then you are too much in love with this actress that you can’t see through her crap. It doesn’t matter that AJ released one statement. It was a very damaging one and she still fired first. So perhaps Brad fired back. Alls fair in love and war now isn’t it.
@Dana I have said they are both leaking info. Maybe not on this thread but other threads on this post. on a post further up I said they are both playing dirty. So I don’t get your complaint. And boohoo Brad didn’t spend Thanksgiving with his kids. Usually kids of divorce have to split the holidays. Do you know Brad and AJs arrangement. If you do, please tell.
We really don’t know exactly what happened on that plane, we know what we’ve read from the press. We also know that Brad wasn’t charged with any wrong doing.
I think what happened with a lot of her die-hard fans is that her perfect image/married that they had of her got shattered and they want to blame anyone except AJ. So therefore Brad is the scapegoat. I bet it would be really confusing to some if they got back together and called off the divorce and AJ started praising Brad again. They are both to blame and neither one of them seems to be concerned about protecting their children from this if they are both leaking info. If Brad is doing it, then so is AJ. I like Brad and AJ before they got together and I will continue to like them now that they are separated. I just don’t drink the Kool-Aid that some of you are drinking.
@V4real…Are you serious??Brad Is the “Scapegoat”??so the therapist,judge etc…Are all drinking the Angelina “kool-Aid”?……Whilst we don’t know what happened on that plane,we do know BRAD PITT Had an episode during that plane,causing Angelina to file…yet he’s the scapegoat???
Well put V4Real. We dont know what happened. Perhaps Brad was a monster and the authorities covered up for him or maybe whatever happened wasnt as serious as is being made out to be. Perhaps the kids are truly terrified or maybe they are being coached to misread the incident and overstate negative feelings. Perhaps DCFS and the feds are under Brads influence or maybe the therapist is under Jolies. Who knows. What we do know is that they have behaved disgustingly. Both of them in equal measure should be ashamed of themselves.
For all the giggling people did about Bruce and Demis third wheel post divorce dates, Gwyneth and Chris conscious uncoupling and Ben and Jens market and church pap shoots; these couples are miles better parents than these two transparent aholes. Too bad they have six kids together.
Thank you @adorable for bringing us back to 1.
You can always tell the Angelina detractor’s posts, because their agenda is to fashion posts in which it has nothing to do with alcoholism or addiction or child trauma (seriously, read any v4real, artemis, or any of the others) it’s not even mentioned. If they had their way, this would be a War of the Roses spat because Brad wanted out. It helps their muddying up of Angelina when Brad’s transgressions re substance abuse and his children are dismissed and not mentioned. Then they just paint her as scorned, selfish, nasty, etc.
That means you’ll get two POVs from them – the Angie is a the demon bad mother who started this…OR..they’ll make bad attempts at fake neutrality with ‘B-b-b-but they’re BOTH bad parents, so there!’ commentary.
You will hear a lot of ‘BOTH SIDES’ b.s. – like CNN covering politics.
Reality check though: Brad had 4 agencies up his behind, he can only have monitored visits with his kids, is in therapy, admitted to an altercation with his son, was said to be a drunk mess (with existing problems of the alcoholic kind) probably not the first time…and yet…
…what do we get from the Angelina haters/detractors?!
“they BOTH are behaving badly, BOTH SIDES should be ashamed…BOTH are terrible… BOTH are bad parents…”
As with politics, that kind of delusion where you insist on riding the fence until splinters are lodged so far up they’re coming out of your mouth, benefits no one…it takes a herculean effort to equalize things that are very obviously not equal, such as Brad’s eff up.
It’s a refusal to put things in proper perspective and to employ common sense and consider factual info that we do know about the incident, along with the obvious clues in plain sight.
You can get mad at Angelina for filing for divorce and essentially trying to get Brad help and push him into rehab- she maybe even saved his life..may have done it before too… (he stopped riding bikes a while ago, maybe that was her too?)..
…but it’s not a good look when you do and it’s very obvious.
@VReal My point is we know exactly how Brad spent Thanksgiving because his sources told us. We know he didn’t seen his kids until three weeks after the incident because Brad sources told us. His people have talked to People since the beginning. I made this point because you said Brad doesn’t need to use TMZ or People to speak for him. They have since September.
I do agree they both are feeding the media. Angelina need to stop releasing statements and Brad need to stop letting his people talk to People and TMZ, because it isn’t helping any of them. I’m a fan of both. I think so many people are jumping to defend Angelina on here because people act like she’s the only one that cares about her image. If you read comments anywhere else you will see some people believe only Angelina uses PR. They don’t think Brad has a mouthpiece.
If brad was a real man & good parent? he would not allow the media to relentlessly attack the mother of his children, but worse…..his so called friends are the ones talking to the tabs to trash her. If he didn’t want anymore of this out there, then his side wouldn’t be talking. Now angelina has provided facts to counter all the lies, He has a problem with it?
Really? But it’s okay for him to be attacked? This mess is so disgusting. I really thought so highly of the both before. *sigh*
“it was the psychiatrist’s call, not hers.”
Not the biggest deal in the world but according to the documents he is a psychologist. He has a PhD not an MD, he can’t write prescriptions and so forth. He is well educated but their is an important distinction in their roles when it comes to patient care. Not inferior just different.
How is he being attacked? Every other media outlet & public are buying into the “poor brad” narrative. Angelina is the one with the kids. She’s the one who has been protecting them since this started. She is the one who has dealt with child services & from removing the kids from the home. She is the one who is being lied about, & attacked on a daily basis. The one time she stands up for herself & provided facts, she is subjected to a whole new round of attacks.
I see more people saying things as if they are facts, rather then speculation. Saying someone doesn’t care about their kids, or choose this or that over them, is not for you to say, seeing that none of us know them.
But whatever.
+1
+2
+3
Well, well, well … Something to hide, Dear Brad?
FU Brad Pitt!!!
The documents should have been sealed from the very beginning. Brad’s timing to request the sealing of docs is suspect, but it is what’s best for kids.
So, Angelina will have to accept it even though it will hurt her PR game.
Why doesn’t he file an emergency motion to have the monitor removed so he can have unsupervised visits with his kids? Why doesn’t he file an emergency motion to stop having to take 4 drug test a month? Why not file an emergency motion to stop having individual therapy twice a week.Since he has been cleared by FBI,Children Protective Services,etc.
I just posted something similar in the other thread. He has been cleared so why is he stil agreeing to these stipulations?!? His “sources” say he does not like the current agreement one bit. Why isn’t his team requesting a change!
Because they’re hiding something or else he wouldn’t have agreed
If he complies, he looks better. Jolie initially wanted sole custody (which is what she’s having now) but if he keeps testing clean and following the advice of professionals, the judge will grant joint. Jolie’s filing and initial statements clearly put Pitt on the defensive so he’s trying to look good and now it seems like she wants to put it out there that she’s not pulling the strings but I don’t know. They’re both being crap about this and not that savvy.
Oh and anybody thinking Pitt doesn’t have something on Jolie after being her partner for 10+ years is insane. She’s super controlling type-A and admitted to Pitt getting her through a breakdown in a shower. He knows her, she knows him. They have shit on each other.
@Artemis.
Or if he does not, it hurt his case, badly. The argument work both ways. I do think that complying with those extreme terms, while under investigation, made a maybe-innocent him look better. Not asking for better terms after the end of the investigation make him look.. not that innocent. Were I him, I’d asked for a better arrangement to see my children, temporary or not.
I am not going to have supervised visits with my kids when I didn’t do anything wrong AND have been cleared by multiple agencies.That doesn’t make sense.He isn’t complying to get joint custody.If he hasn’t done anything wrong.He will get joint custody.I have crack head cousins who got joint custody despite the fact that their spouse requested sole custody.Every divorce expert says despite of her request he would get joint physical custody.So why hasn’t he requested an emergency hearing to stop the drug testing,therapy sessions,etc?
@Artemis
Temporary sole custody while Brad got his sh* together. Never said she wanted to keep those kids from their father. Instead of attacking Jolie how about going after the monitor or the therapist or Brad’s AA sponsor (if he has one). Lord knows some folks would sure as heck be attacking Angelina if it were her who had gone off the rails publicly.
But by all means let’s spread salacious gossip about the only responsible custodial parent in the kids lives right now and make things up about what Brad ‘has on her’.
Ugh. Madonna was right. Women do hate each other.
@BJ
That’s an easy answer. He does know he’s done something wrong. Don’t know if you’re asking the question rhetorically or not, but IMO he isn’t applying or filing for joint custody because right now he is very obviously seeking treatment addition/alcohol related and trying to mend things with his kids and not push them before they’re ready. I’m sure his therapist agrees or has suggested his way to move forward.
The conditions of the agreement ARE unpractical, hard and embarassing for him. Which means that he must have very good reason to continue to bear them, now that he’s been found innocent of child abuse, and is plainly able to turn up sober for work.
At first I thought he might be looking to placate Jolie, maybe even repair their relationship. Now, I’m beginning to think it’s a legal strategy. If he’s being watched and tested so closely, Jolie will have to deal with those results in the custody battle. Which means he’s probably largely sober and in control, or he wouldn’t put up with continued monitoring. He WANTS those tests and therapists right now.
My comment will be based on my 20 years of experience in civil litigation and family law cases. I was under the impression that this agreement was stipulated to back in October, and that this was not a recent court filing but was rather the judge signing the temporary order. I have said all along in this case “why is this case not sealed?” My family court case is sealed in the same court and I am not Brangelina. IMHO, there was no new filing, but there is info being leaked by both sides. In this case, I am assuming that their Request for Order hearing is close approaching which will address custody and visitation now that DCFS has no open case. I believe that Angelina is doing some backpeddling because she has been perceived as trying to keep Brad from the kids which can definitely harm her in the custody hearing. Judges don’t like those seeking sole custody and would definitely NOT see a request to take the children out of the country in a favorable light if that is in fact her game plan (who knows). IMHO the only way Brad can say what needs to be said in defense against the mother of his children, is to say it in sealed documents. If they truly care about their kids, once the file is sealed, we’ll hear nothing more in the press! And the kids will be protected. Thank goodness for this.
People saying Brad didn’t know she filed the S and O
Here the paper his team knew she filed and they allowed it as the prove of service is listed on the document
https://cdn-media.extratv.com/2016/12/05/jolie-pitt-custody-papers.pdf
And here’s why he asked for the court documents to be sealed… let’s use them to prove who’s right between arguing fans! So gross.
There are parts of the agreement that Brad likely didn’t want to be made public. The parts about himself. Now his anonimous sources will be free and continue with the difamatory game against angelina.
She was attacked for filing sole custody b/c it is a start of war. The stories she won’t let him see the kids derived probs from her own commenter s who say that she need him”clean” before she let him with the kids…she’s her own enemy here imo
I still think she doesn’t want let him go unpainted if she can’t have him or wanted him and wanted the upper hand …typical move.
I still believe she has more fault in the after maths than him…
It is probably the release of all the names of the child experts. Now paparazzi know where to hang out waiting for pictures. That will surely upset the kids. Hunting season is open
Who says the meetings even take place at the therapist’s office?
BJ, the price on pics could be over five figures depending on how clear they are and what they show. That means that there will be at least half a dozen freelance paps camped outside that therapists house this morning. He will go nowhere without a tail for the next few weeks. Oh and expect his staff, his cleaners and anybody with access to his files to get a cash offer from TMZ and Radar by the end of the day. Theres really no way to defend her filing publicly.
Everyone is zeroing in on the experts. Watching them. Looking to see what they can find out by watching their movements. Good fodder for gossip. Not so good for the kids
Poor Brad needs a lot protection. maybe now he want do it prively bc the details of the agreement make it clear that there are issues with Brad that he needs to address which is why he is required to undergo individual and group therapy, and drug and alcohol testing, and that therapist (Dr. Russ) requires proof of his compliance to be submitted to him. Those are the parts Brad likely didn’t want to be made public.
Whether Pitt is being aggressive now or Jolie maintaining her passive-aggressiveness they’re both in the wrong. Both are trying to control image at the expense of the children they claimed was their n°1 priority. Moviestars are gonna Moviestar and they are being such a cliché now their past-selves would barf seeing what they would become. Not to mention the damage they are causing their children. Which, how funny now that the parents are in a fight, there is no need to travel all of a sudden. Now they can stay cooped up at one place in America. Now work and hobbies can take a backseat after years of moving places every 3-5 months. Jolie was pretty clear she loves her jetset fast life and Pitt also needed to work all the time which also requires travelling.
Custody was ALWAYS going to be a mess regardless of the situation since 1 of them will have to compromise their lifestyle in a major way because you cannot shuffle kids around internationally to stay 1 week with one parent. If one or more of the children is going to side with Jolie and refuse to travel, oh my word. I cannot imagine how they’re going to deal with that. Jolie might have a lot of anger for Pitt but it must suck bad that her family is even more dysfunctional and complex than her own childhood. At least Pitt has a wide family circle to rely on, Jolie has just her brother.
This is going to change and impact their career paths forever and anybody thinking they’re not tightly trying to swing the advantage in their own way, must be delusional about the willpower it takes to maintain their type of status.
Again, see @Artemis post.
You won’t find any discussion of Brad’s boozing and/or substance abuse or the altercation on the plane (that was public) with their child.
The Angelina detractors argue this as if it didn’t happen and if Jolie just filled for sole physical custody because…well, bad selfish Mom is divorcing.
They make sure to leave out the fact that it’s only ever been temporary, and that the monitors and the kids will weigh in. Also they avoid discussing what was already inferred that after therapy they’ll both have joint.
That said.
As far as reliable family. I’ll take one devoted brother, my children’s uncle who live 5 minutes away, rather than a family that lives 2000 miles away who are only seen on select holidays. Also, Angelina’s father was almost absentee from the time she was born, skipped out on child support and her mom was co-dependent. I don’t think that counts as ‘more dysfunctional’ than two loving parents, one of whom may be an alcoholic trying to get his stuff together.
Your last paragraph about status i don’t get. Brad’s an actor, not a politician. You don’t need to have a spotless rep to act, ask Jack Nicholson or Charlie Sheen. Angelina is the humanitarian and the stateswoman who wants to help the less fortunate with better policy, direct and not act as much. If anything she is the one who needs to dot her i’s and cross her t’s because she works with foreign dignitaries abroad.
Yet another reason why she’s not doing any of this out of venegeance or anger. She’s trying to help her family.
What grows more apparent than ever with every passing day, is Brad has never really been worthy of her if he won’t step up to the plate at some point and take responsibility.
MTE.
Why can’t they handle things with class? Ugh. I hate to say it, but a good “conscious un-coupling” would be welcome.
Angie is relying on the family therapists who says it was to early for unmonitored visits.
Does Angie know that the longer the monitored visits go on the more money is in it for the family therapist.
Plus PR for him. He will attract rich clients with Jolie and Pitt on his CV.
But I’m bitter, I don’t trust conventional talk therapy as you can go on for years and not achieve any growth or change. A good therapist is hard to come by in my experience.
Sounds like you got a bad therapist at some point. Trust your gut, if you aren’t moving forward with a therapist, move on to another.
They are worth a combined $400M I’m sure they could care less about paying some therapist.
Really???…Angelina divorcing Brad & stating the health of her family is the reason..that’s a firing shot??..by the filing of the divorce child care people had interviewed her & the custody of her kids would be in jeopardy!!…They’re were most famous couple in the world so either way this wouldn’t have remained private!!..
If things were to be private we all know Angelina would the “evil,viper”who just spat out The Hollywood son…So good on Angelina for Being transparent throughout all this!…the fact that Brad is quick to file this rubbish but let’s Angeluna be cast as the evil mother here is wack…I’m done with u BRAND Pitt!
@adorable
+1000
Angelina’s middle name is transparency.
That’s why it eventually is going to come out in the wash, because she’ll talk about her life and is unafraid.
I think them not seeing each other has made things worse? So much miscommunication between the pair of them. If they meet in person they can talk it all out privately. Get out any anger they have, then come to an ammicable agreement. Communication is key. It’s the main thing that has been missing between them.
Very high profile divorce case. The document should have been sealed.
He should have done that from the beginning. Angelina has always been very open about her life and she has nothing to hide. Brad obviously wanted a lot hidden and even more?
The kids need therapy because of him that’s why he’s mad. Look at all the damage he is inflicting on his children by trashing their mother through tmz and people magazine.
Laura is right, it’s about him not the kids. If it was ever about the kids this situation wouldn’t be happening right now.
He is getting shady advice from his PR team. His team should have canceled ALL promo and told him no vacation.
But then again he probably lied to them about the severity of the situation.
He could not comply with he stipulation in Paris, London, Madrid, China and Turks and Caicos.
He was trying to make Jolie look bad. He consulted TMZ before Angelina knew.
He failed and I thinks it’s because he was expecting Angelina to hold his hand and say there there it’s okay,but now she is following the rules of the therapists and doesn’t much care about his feelings.
Also I agree with Laura wasser
“His … request is a thinly veiled attempt to shield himself, rather than the minor children, from public view,” Jolie Pitt’s attorneys wrote.”
All of the stuff he’s required to do is not normal for a man who is innocent and “cleared” by dcfs. They closed the case because of the stipulations in place…
Brad Pitt needs to come out of his bubble and realize that he could beat his kids in public and people would still be on his side, no need to be extra. Just look at Donald trump.
Angelina has to force Brad Pitt to be a father. Sad.
Angelina made herself look bad.
How so?…by Divorcing Brad and protecting her kids?….why are the majority here deflecting from THE TRUTH!!!!..& That truth is what Brad wants covered up!…he has issues & isn’t owning up to that!…he was perfectly fine with letting the public thinking Jolie was preventing the kids from seeing him yet the truth is reveal & now he wants to go “private”…please……& where are those people who said He has “some things on Jolie”…if Anything it’s Jolie “who knows where the bones are buried”….
She’s not exactly the best parental role model herself. Ever see a picture of her kissing her brother? Plus she’s admitted to heavy drug use! Ive never bought into “the Brand”. Its always seemed so over the top in every way. I feel for their kids, not them! Its just my opinion but I think she and maybe he see the kids as possessions not little people.
Thank you adorable. He is inflicting a lot of damage on his kids by allowing his Shady Pr team to trash Angelina. Most of his kids can read this stuff- not only his kids but his nieces and nephews.
No doubt Maddox (who is close to that family) told them EVERYTHING. AND HE STILL CARES MORE ABOUT HIS CAREER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
Angelina has put her entire professional life on hold for her kids. Brad hasn’t. He actually had a very relaxing and restful vacation.
Brad has people mag and the tabloids on his side because his Pr team is talking to them and attacking Jolie. Angelina has the truth on her side.
this is awful.
all of it.
It really is.
None of this would’ve been made public if Brad Pitt lived up to the agreement. He wants to party and promote his move instead. And that’s public knowledge.
Apparently his request has been denied.
Because Angie and her lawyers fought it.
Oh well,the judge obviously realized he wasn’t trying to protect the kids but instead he is trying to protect himself.
That’s because his lawyer did not consult Angelina’s lawyer , Laura wasser. He was trying to make Angelina look like the bad guy. He wants her to look as bad as a man who has to have multiple types of therapy and drug tests. F– him. He’s still in denial.
The judge denied it because he did not consult with Angelina’s lawyers beforehand. It seems like they aren’t communicating and they aren’t coming together to make decisions for their children. It seems like both sides are stubborn and want to do things their way and that includes not following recommendations given to them by therapists. If they want to seal records they need to come together and do so. To be honest the records should have been sealed months ago. Why wait so long?
@BJ
+1000
Wrong again @Paige
We just had a quote from the court that says Angelina has been more than cooperative.
I’m curious though. You start your post saying “the judge denied it because HE (Brad Pitt) did not consult with Angelina’s lawyers beforehand.”
However, what follows is, you saying “it seems THEY weren’t communicating and THEY aren’t coming together and THEY are stubborn.. ”
So you give a specific instance of Brad not talking to Angelina (or their lawyers) and then do that whole *BOTH SIDES ARE BAD* thing.
Also, why should the records be sealed after the very public fact of Brad going off the rails? Perhaps if Brad had made a decision to accept/admit responsibility for a public incident with a minor child and an addiction problem (be it alcohol or other substance issues) they could seal it, but he isn’t doing that.
I don’t blame Angelina for wanting transparency when you have these tabloids and media entities creating their own nasty Angelina narratives. I don’t blame Brad for that like some do, only because many of them have always been hateful re Angelina. But Brad’s been at this game since he was 22 years old. He knows how the bloids work. He knows Angelina is the villain of the piece no matter what.
The only thing barely keeping them honest is the fact that the court filings and recommendations dispute their b.s.
..and YET he wants to seal them.
Weak.
All of the court fillings should be private. Surely Angie would want that too? I am so confused as to why she filed this latest court paper work. Obviously she wants it out in the public. I am just not sure why. She seems to have never cared about the press or at least acted like she didn’t . She did everything private surgery etc. Why now? I guess to make Brad look bad? This is going to be nasty . Great gossip just sad for the kids but these two patents don’t seem to care.
I agree with your post .
I agree. It is a private family matter. It should be private, especially if they both care about the well-being of the children. They would not speak ill of the other parent (they or their PR team). Sad.
Yep
I’ve been team Jolie before she was with brad and I still am, and I love brangelina later but I don’t like Brad let everyone say shit about Angelina, both of them need to focus on their kids and stop this mess. Also you shouldn’t forget what HE said about Angelina as a MOTHER, coz some of you are saying she lied about Brad being a good dad then he also did it!
Because only Jolie who should be the liar one here😏😏😏
Right now it cannot be denied that Brad and his team are trashing Angelina to people magazine and TMZ. Yesterday with the London story- he was desperate. Now with this unprepared attempts to get everything sealed you can see his unraveling.
Brad Pitt is living in a bubble where he and only him is the victim. Quite sad actually.
Angelina is being torn apart in public eye and all she is doing is abiding all laws and listening to the therapist. After Brad Pitt failed to do what he said he would do no doubt her therapist said “make it legal so he’s forced to do what he signed on to do” …
They are both acting like children and are both guilty of leaking information. Hopefully this is the “worst” and it gets better moving forward. Tho I doubt it.
What we got here is a failure to communicate!
Seriously, Brad and Angelina could probably solve this custody issue themselves if they would talk to each other. No lawyers, therapist, Olivia Pope’s, PR Games, just the 2 of them.
It probably would have also helped if Brad had not, by his own admission, gotten drunk and had a physical altercation with his child.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say Brad just may be trying to hide something other than his children’s privacy.
The facts aka the documents speak for themselves. Even non team jolie fans should see it for what it is.
Brad pitt was never “cleared” as it was blared from TMZ. Case was closed because of stipulations in place and now he’s trying to change that even tho he signed a legal document. How high is he?
I like both Angelina and Brad and what their family represented. There’s actually a lot of love that’s why maybe it so heartbreaking to both of them and their fans or public. Anyone who is their fan knows that they were each other’s loves. My heart hurts for both because they saw in each other a fulfillment of a dream and when life interferes with what was your dream but what you know to be your life, it’s shattering.
Angie considered Brad her life partner, her best friend, and in a moment when she needed him to stand tall for all of them no matter what, he dodged that bullet for himself. In a moment of vulnerability for his family, for so many reasons he clung to his fears.
That is the ultimate betrayal not only to her but to the one thing that they both held so sacred.
Maybe what breaks her heart is he’s actually a good father, husband, and man but who has childhood issues many she understands but that but it feels like he diverted from their pact that they would always be there for the kids no matter what. They married for the kids not because they didn’t love each other….for the kids.
Brad should have known right away that whatever happened on that plane, was the last straw for Angie, he banked on her love for him dismissing the love they both held for their kids…..esp the adopted kids! if only he worked on what he needed to do to affirm to her that they’re still on the same page and yes he’s upset and made some mistakes….with the love she has for him, I don’t see how she wouldn’t have worked it out with him. However he diverted and immediately thought how this affected him and she was forced to stick to her convictions.
See this is the issue with men – they love you when you are strong and agree with them, the minute you disagree with them, you’re a the nasty woman, vindictive, bad mom etc.
Say whatever you want about Angelina but a liar she is not and she no matter how much she is hurting she will always highlight the truth.
I am sick at how his team threw Maddox and Pax under the bus.
Tomorrow when you have a write up I sure hope you mention how his lawyer named them. That’s sick. They are teens but still kids that he should feel protective over.
My god.
He should not forget that Maddox is almost 16 and will be able to speak publicly for himself soon.