Nick Loeb is a douchebag. I always thought he came across like an entitled butt-munch when he was with Sofia Vergara, but after she dumped him, his Douche Flag started flying freely and it’s been nothing but an exercise in creepiness and WTFery. Go here for our Nick Loeb archives. To sum up a massively complicated story, Nick Loeb wants “custody” of two embryos he created with Sofia Vergara. Sofia won’t sign off on it because those are the rules – they would both have to agree before doing anything with the embryos, whether it’s implantation (in another woman) or destroying the genetic material. Nick’s legal actions against Sofia have been going on since 2015. It’s a mess. Late last year, Nick partnered up with a radical anti-choice group and that group has sued Sofia on her embryos’ behalf, claiming that the embryos have a “right to life.” (Incidentally, the trailer for the new Handmaid’s Tale series just came out!) So, what’s new in Loeb’s creepy world? I don’t even know how to explain this.
Onion entrepreneur Nick Loeb has filed new paperwork in his bizarre legal fight over the fate of the two frozen embryos he made with ex-fiancée Sofia Vergara. The new filings include a letter he sent to the Modern Family star prior to their 2014 breakup in which he lists a number of relationship “boundaries.” Chief among the things he “won’t put up with anymore” from the Colombian actress: speaking her native language in front of him—a habit Loeb called “classless.”
“I like spending time with you out at night much more than any of my friends,” he writes. “What I do not like and what I will not put up with anymore is the Spanish, and no I do not like hanging out with you when you speak in Spanish, with others at the table or out with us. I may as well be alone and for someone who cares so much for what other people think, I am surprised that you think its (sic) ok. Not only is it rude and disrespectful, it is classless. And for you to then berate, embarrass, and humiliate me in front of others when I ask you to stop is not happening anymore. You tell me, I need to remind you, and then I do and you make fun of the situation. I should never of let this get this far, but I have some boundaries that I have let you cross, and this is one of them. It’s not ok, you will not do this anymore, or I will just get up, leave and go.”
Loeb continues on about his boundaries, noting Vergara has her own “things that are not ok with you, like going to a strip club.”
The letter was filed as evidence of Loeb’s declaration that the embryos had become one of three major issues that led to their relationship’s decline. Other issues included that she allegedly refused to help him in his condiment endeavors, and that he allegedly went out partying too late and too often.
The recent filing is part of a response by Loeb’s attorneys in federal court. Vergara’s lawyers have asked the federal judge to dismiss the suit.
Like, these are legal documents or exhibits LOEB is using in his lawsuit…? This seems like it should be Sofia’s Exhibit A for why she dumped this loser. All this time, I thought Loeb was part Cuban, but he’s not at all. I thought he would be somewhat fluent in Spanish, but apparently… no. He does not speak Spanish. He thinks Spanish-speakers are classless and rude. If I was being generous, I would theorize that Loeb found it annoying that Sofia would talk to other people in Spanish in front of him, and THAT is what he found classless (her rudeness, not the fact that she’s a native Spanish-speaker). But since I have no f–ks to give about Nick Loeb, I’ll just go on believing that he hates anyone and everyone who speaks Spanish. Racist!
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
WTF? Are these real documents? They make him look crazypants. Heaven forbid she speak her native language.
Sorry, read it again that it was a letter. Comprehension fail. Still, that is rude of him.
He is a garbage person.
He seems like a guy who probably worked very hard to maintain control through emotional abuse and manipulation. He can’t stand that she finally moved on and found happiness away from him. And didn’t he talk two other girlfriends into having abortions? So much for being pro-life.
Megan–he sounds like an overly coddled man child. In patriarchical cultures, some little boys get everything handed to them so much that they expect the world to be theirs.
And when a woman doesn’t agree to do that, emotional abuse does happen.
Ive seen dozens of versions of this guy.
exactly!!!!
Nick, dude… you were able to afford strip clubs and frequent the ‘hot spots’ but you couldn’t afford Rosseta Stone??? You had that woman in your life for 4 years (and were planning on spending the rest of your life with), and you couldn’t be bothered with basic Spanish???? Sounds like the markings of a real victim here… (heavy sarcasm)
At least he wrote down his terrible injustices in a letter for us too read…. Because if there’s one thing we know about Spanish speakers, they would never learn English for a job/lover/husband/wife…. (extreme sarcasm)
Self agency is just never in question.
He can’t seem to be bothered with basic English either, case in point, “should never of”
Thank you KB I wondered if that bugged anyone else!
Maybe he should learn another language or two.
He seems like prime Trump cabinet material
I wonder if he’s objecting to her speaking in Spanish with one person, while the rest of the guests don’t understand Spanish. That would be rude.
I got the impression she was with a bunch of Spanish speaking friends, and he was left out of a conversation.
I understand his feelings. I really appreciated how much Filipinos (when I lived in Manila) would accommodate me and not leave me sitting around not understanding anything at a table. They were so gracious and sweet.
Of course, over time, I LEARNED TAGALOG so that they did not need to coddle me. Just like he should have learned Spanish. If your SO speaks another language and surrounds themselves with friends who do the same–learn the damn language. That is just part of love.
It takes two to make a convo happen. He doesn’t get to have a hissy fit that she didn’t try to accommodate him, when he isn’t working to do his part.
And who the hell writes that shit in legal documents? Some men don’t understand when they are embarrassing themselves.
Que se vaya para carajo! (Translation: go to hell.)
Love this!
In Argentina we use the contraction “al” instead of “para”. Haha, yes, el tipo es un boludo importante ( he’s a big asshole).
Ah, and even when you’re saying something quite rude it still sounds beautiful in Spanish. The man is clearly an idiot.
@Carmen…lol 😂😂
I know right?! What a cabron
un gilipollas ignorante (an ignorant a**hole)
I’m loving all the Spanish! I think we need more Spanish speakers on this site as commentators.
Probably there are more than you know. They’re just being polite!
But I also love that I am getting an education in the choicer phrases en espanol.
Mi gusta!
pendejo (Mexican/Texican-Spanish slang for a$$hole)
“Pendejo” is all over Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic as well.
Melanie, here’s one more for your collection: puñeta (Puerto Rican slang for jerkoff). Pretty soon you’ll be cursing like a native.
I’m going to write this down
As my grandpa says: “a chingar a su madre!”
Es un forro; another Argentine insult.
Forro = condom. Someone to be disposed of ASAP.
I think he probably thought she was rude for speaking a language he doesn’t speak with people which made him feel excluded.
I dubt he hates all Spanish, because no one is that big of a dick.
I took it the same way. Many people think it’s rude to exclude others at a table from a conversation.
Uh… But I am not defending him. He is awful. And his list sounds juvenile. I just think he is bad enough without anyone twisting things.
Lmao. As a Spanish speaker let me assure that PLENTY of people are that big of a dick. I have known a few and you can probably even see pics of others when you google images the phrase “Trump Supporters”
When people all around me, especially people I know speak a language I don’t understand, it makes me a little uncomfortable and confused. I don’t know if they’re talking about me or just don’t want me in their conversation. I have no right to tell them to stop though. He sound like a brat
I find it really odd that people feel uncomfortable because others around them are speaking in a foreign language because they assume they must be talking about them. They are probably talking about something that has nothing whatever to do with you.
I agree with these comments. I think he was just saying it bothers him and that he expressed that to her but it didn’t stop. It is hard when you don’t speak a language and everyone else is and you do feel excluded. Not to mention you get the feeling they are talking about you. Silly. Just like people talking about a topic you are not well versed in. He is probably a douche. I don’t know if this is a clear example of it.
I know what you mean. I used to take my kids to a park and these nannies used to talk to each other in another language, Polish maybe. And sometimes they would look directly at me when I was nearby and keep talking…so I wold think they were probably talking about me. I didn’t find it rude, exactly, just very uncomfortable.
I can understand the issue, but I still think the way he expressed it makes him sound like a total insecure, controlling asshole.
Hmm it is rude to go on for a long time when one person doesn’t understand but it all depends on the circumstances. Who invited who how urgent the other language conversation is can the third party speak the language that everyone understands etc
I’ve caught people speaking about me in another language “is she fat or pregnant ?” “I’m pregnant ” “haha she understands you!” They were at work in low paying service job. Gossiping may make the day go faster, it wasn’t Spanish though
I agree, I think this guy is a DB but when a bunch of people are speaking a language someone else doesn’t speak it’s meant to exclude that person, otherwise they would speak in the language everyone understands.
I understand exactly what you’re saying, Beth. It’s the “wondering” if people are talking about you – because sometimes, they are talking about you. This is why, when I sometimes spoke to my mother in Sardinian while others who didn’t speak the language were with us, I’d say to them, “Excuse me for a minute while I tell my mum such and such,” or “I’m just telling mum about your new car” or whatever.
Many years ago, I attended a special dinner celebrating the many contributions Italian migrants made to Australia. I was lucky enough to sit at the table with some Italian dignitaries, as well as the boss (at the time) of the Australian Broadcasting Commission and his fabulous wife, Emily, who was seated next to some matronly Italian women. Emily’s husband gave a beautiful speech and handed out awards, and then there was a break before the dancing began. Her husband was chatting to some people away from us, while Emioy and I continued speaking with others at our table. I could hear these women chattering in Italian amongst themselves, but sneakily looking our way now and again. I could hear only bits and pieces of their conversation, and felt horrid, figuring Emily must be hearing much more, since she was sitting right next to them. After a while, her husband returned to collect her, as they had another engagement to rush off to. They shook hands and said their goodbyes to everyone at our table, Emily leaving the women until last. She held her hand out to the woman who’d sat next to her and said, in perfect Italian (she had lived and worked in Italy for several years), “It was wonderful to meet you lovely ladies at such a special and important event, but sadly, my husband and I must leave early.” The women beamed. And then, “Oh, it’s so nice hearing the Italian language again, and spoken with such abandon. (Ladies are still beaming.) I understood every word you all spoke about me, and just so you know, I am not (his) whore or prostitute, out for a fancy event. I’m his wife of 12 years and have my own very successful career, would you believe? Arrivederci e piacere.” (Goodbye, it’s been a pleasure.) They were gobsmacked, and I half-turned to my hubby, but instead of a stifled laugh, I sprayed red wine all over his shirt… I have several stories like this, but this is the best one.
Well I’ve definitely had that experience of feeling uncomfortable when people are speaking a language I don’t know. I think in this case if you were planning on marrying someone you’d make the effort to learn since it’s not really th hard to learn basic Spanish enough to follow a conversation . Especially since I’m assuming she’d be speaking to old friends and family for the most part. It’s the sign of an abusive douchebag.
When I used to work in a foreign company, many times I used to feel excluded from conversations mainly in their language. I solved this problem by achieving a working knowledge in that language 🙂 My husband and I speak each other mother-tongues and a common foreign language between us in private.
I think Loeb could have work on this problem in a similar way but he is a douche and doesn’t look very smart.
When random people speaks in another language in front of me, I usually don’t give a damn since they are strangers and I couldn’t care less about their lives.
I think it’s somewhat rude if you’re the ONLY one in the group who’s out of the loop and everybody is carrying on and having fun without you in a restricted setting, but otherwise I don’t have a problem with it. My school had a lot of Saudi Arabian students, and sometimes I’d wind up in work groups where most of them would chatter in Arabic. I got it – it’s their native language, easy enough to slip into it. I would just gently poke fun to remind them, “Oh hey, remember that I’m a lame American who’s monolinguistic and can’t understand what you’re saying.” No big.
I used to commute to work via bus, a long commute of nearly an hour, and my route passed a mall and the road to the Naval base, so there were often sailors on the bus, going to or from the mall. One time there was some sort of task force at the base, ships from different countries traveling together on an international goodwill mission, and I had fun listening to them talk and trying to guess which country they were from. The bus is boring, okay? We find our entertainment where we can.
This went on for days. I had a great conversation with a young man from the Netherlands, who spoke perfect English with no accent and was appalled that prostitution is illegal. But the encounter that stays with me was when a group of young German men got on the bus and were laughing and talking in their language, and I was listening and catching a word here and there. They noticed me listening, and without missing a beat, switched to English so I could understand them. I’ve never seen such good manners in my life.
As a foreign language speaker myself, I get what everyone means that to talk in English but everything is also not for the benefit of English speaking people be solely catered to them either. Solely English speakers need to expand their worldview a bit.
Disco Dancer’s right. How long had he known her at this point? If he professed to care about her, he could take the trouble to learn her language. He could ask nicely to have the conversation translated or make teaching him part of their lovemaking. Instead he whines and sulks like a spoiled child. Good riddance, Sofia! Unfortunately he seems to be like a bad odor that never leaves the house.
If this guy wasnt such a dick all around I would also give him the benefit of the doubt and agree that you should talk the language everyone in your group understands, if its possible. But he is a dick all around.
I agree. if this was a normal reasonable person, i would say you shouldn’t be exclusionary.
But he’s such a huge dick. even when he’s sharing his sads, hes a giant dick. it seems like he latched onto a nationalist style talking point to shore up the reason why his fee fees were hurt.
“i’m sad because you talk around me and i don’t understand every word, since i’m an egotist i know you are talking about me, also spanish is gross and i hate it!”
He’s never grown up and he can just go away and never talk again. Nick your 15 minutes is up. Should’ve been nicer to Sophia, or you know, made even a tiny effort to learn your partners native tongue. Tete de merde.
Chances are high she was talking to people who are more comfortable speaking Spanish than English.
And even if she wasn’t – he can fuck off. It’s HER first language, she had every right to speak it. If anything, him trying to use this as part of his documents just makes him look bad.
Oh for sure, I’d be hesitant to publicly complain about such a thing, because even though your feelings (or curiosity) are hurt, there are a lot of reasons to have a conversation in another language. I can see legitimate ways people could be sad about this. BUT as teacakes said, In certain cases it may be more exclusionary to NOT allow Spanish, which in itself is such a stupid request. His nonsense reasoning of ‘I don’t get to see the rippers, you don’t get to use your native tongue’… if there was ever a false equivalency, that’s a prime example.
In DV support we talk about spiritual abuse, which is the type of abuse that destroys you inner self, it takes your joy and your identity. That is what he is doing here. He is trying to destroy and remove the parts of her she cherishes. So glad she got out.
I am a bilingual and so is my mother’s side of the family. We were taught as kids that you should always speak the language that everyone in the group understands otherwise you are being rude. There is no excuse regarding what someone’s first language is, or what they are comfortable in. If you can speak English, and know that someone in your group doesn’t understand anything else but English, you do that. Because in most cases where the people are speaking the other language, they are speaking about that person. I have been a witness to that many times and it is ignorant behaviour.
This guy is a jerk in every other way possible, but if Sofia is speaking Spanish to someone in front of him then she is being ignorant herself.
He asked for her hand in marriage, knowing full well that she was from Colombia, her family is Colombian, and she probably has many Spanish speaking friends because she started her career at Univision. For someone you are planning to spend the rest of your life with, it is not too much to ask that he/she learns his/her spouse’s native tongue. Even I can get by in a Spanish speaking country, and my native language is not Spanish. It’s like converting for your future spouse. Did he really expect the kids he was planning to have with her to not learn Spanish? Was he going to fume when she spoke Spanish to her own children because he is too stubborn or ignorant to learn his fiance’s language?
I read it like that too, he finds her excluding him from conversations by speaking a language he doesn’t understand classless, not the Spanish language itself.
But other than that, he’s a creep.
I don’t know that it’s purposely excluding (most of the time). I’m fluently bilingual and when my French family gets together, they’ve always spoken French to each other so it’s natural to speak French. They do, however, make a big effort to speak English when non-French speaking in-laws are around, but sometimes they slip back into French. Then one of them remembers and they all slip back into English, with apologies. The same thing happens in my very bilingual workplace. For most fluently bilingual people, it’s easy to forget. Especially when there are a lot of people and a few different conversations going on at once. And we’re totally not talking about you! 😉 Dude is still a douchebag, though. That is the one thing not up for debate.
Unless your group consists of three people or you talk to the whole group in general, it’s perfectly fine to have conversations in your native tongue with one of the others if you are more comfortable in that language.
I often find myself in a situation like that because I travel a lot for business. Sometimes it’s fine, sometimes it feels weird and excluding.
I’m surprised he didn’t think to just hire an interpreter for the meal! He has the money. That would have been fun. They could have gone all UN on it with headphones etc.
But I agree with the comment above that if he was planning to have kids with her, he really should have been working on at least basic Spanish since the kids would be raised bilingual l so they could talk with family especially.
But even if that is what he meant, he sent it to her in a letter of “relationship demands”? Like… what the fuck? There’s no excuse for this. And honestly, I get feeling excluded. But if someone speaking another language around you is THAT big of an issue… look at where that comes from inside you.
Also, he said “should of.” That tells you all you ever need to know about him. Boy, bye.
I’m laughing Shambles because of all the things about his letter that made me side-eye him even harder “should of” is number one. Glad Sophia canceled this turd nugget from her life.
Oof. I hate to defend this douchebag but he pretty evidently means it’s classless to speak in any other language when you’re at a table with a group of people who can’t understand that language. Which is a pretty old etiquette rule – I think Emily Post or someone said it was the same as having a whispered conversation while with others.
Agreed. I think it is rude when people can speak English but speak a language you don’t know right in front of you to exclude you from the conversation. He’s still a d bag.
I came here to say the same thing – I think the headline is misleading – it’s uncomfortable to be in a group who start speaking a language you don’t understand. And I do think it’s rude if you are out socially and basically exclude someone from the conversation. I think it could be any language in that context. That said – there are still plenty of other reasons why he’s an idiot.
I think a lot of people don’t understand that for us non-native English speakers communicating in English all the time can be quite exhausting even if we’re fluent.
So when I run into someone who speaks my native language, I will occasionally slip into it just because it’s easy and and comfortable and comes naturally. It is not because we want to exclude English speakers or talk trash about you. It’s not all about you, you know 😉
My ex-boyfriend’s mother would rarely speak English when it was the three of us. She was a college professor who was fluent in several languages. It wasn’t just snippets but whole conversations. Excluding someone when there is a common language is rude! My Spanish-speaking sister was over once and was infuriated when overhearing the things his mom was saying about me. My fears that she was talking about me were confirmed.
The letter is douchey, for sure. I can identify with his feelings, though. He’s still horrible.
He DEFINITELY seems like that big of a dick. This is just another example. And I do not find it rude when people speak in their native language around me. I grew up with grandparents who speak another language. Their friends would speak Korean around me, and continue to do so, and I don’t stop them and tell them to speak English. They feel more comfortable speaking Korean, that’s fine! I’ve had French friends, Latino friends, German friends speak their native language with me around and I don’t mind at all. I don’t have to be the center of attention in every conversation, and I often take it as an opportunity to try and learn another language by picking up words from context.
Your right first sentence says it all. And I don’t really care what her reasons were for speaking Spanish…boundries?!?!? She’s lucky to be rid of him.
I dated a guy whose first language wasn’t English, so I started to learn some of his language. It was fun! If I had wanted kids with him you can be damn sure I would have learned as much as I could! Would he forbid her to teach their kids Spanish?!? Ugh.
What did she ever see in him? He sounds incredibly insecure and possessive but also deranged and vindictive. I guess seeing her with Joe Manginello (sp?) is driving him crazy?
Some partners would try and learn Spanish in this scenario….
I can’t believe she used to date this douche.
Exactly. It seems classless to date someone and not try to to learn something of their culture, including their language, especially if you had gone so far as to consider having children with them.
Pienso que Nick Loeb es muy feo.
Demansiado feo. Y nada de autoestima. Una persona con autoestima no lastima de esa manera a los demas.
My Spanish writing/speaking is sucky, however I can read it pretty well and I agree with you both.
Strange looking dude who is just nasty.
Feo y malcriado.
¡Mal parido!
Pinche cabrón…
Payaso
Egoista y comemierda
Hxxvon !!!! Increible. Ya no puedo mas con este tipo.
I bet he was ok with it when they were in bed together. Good riddance to that dbag. He seems like one of those guys who has to have everything his way. He needs to let those embyos go!
Ha, yes. He really does seem like an uber control freak, I really feel for Sofia and I don’t even particularly like her. Good riddance, indeed.
Este tipo es un comemierda…
El mejor comentario que he vista a respecto de este pesado de mierda.
I think you mean pedazo de mierda.
@Carmen – I’m from Honduras, y un “pesado” is someone with an ugly (“heavy”) personality. But yeah, “piece of” goes well with that sentence as well. 🙂
Interesting how the language varies from one country to the next, grammar included. In the Caribbean everybody uses tú, and in South America, everyone is voseando.
Ah si, por eso me da la impresion de que huele tan mal… Gracias miagirl, gracias por ayudarme resolver este asunto.
BRAVA
In case his insane stalking of Sophia via the courts hadnt convinced you that this man is an abuser, then this should end that doubt. He was dating a woman who is famously not completely fluent in English, a woman who wears her cultural pride on her sleeve and he wanted to take away her first language? Its a good thing they will never have kids together, I’m sure he would deny them their Colombian heritage. What a controlling shmuck.
Yeh… I was kind of giving him the benefit of the doubt in my comment above… But considering what I do know about him, yes, it was probably just part of his controlling bs. I cannot imagine how he would find a woman after all if this. He is not right.
He’s very rich. He’ll find someone.
I think she’s completely fluent though? Her grammar is spot on, she just has a heavy accent.
Watch her on talk shows, she still searches for the English word and sometimes asks the audience to help translate a Spanish word. She thinks in Spanish and has to translate that into English. She must be relieved everytime she is around people who dont need her to mentally translate her thoughts.
Exactly! It speaks volumes that this douche was with SV for years and could not bring himself to learn a little Spanish given that it was his partners first language.
Prince OnionCrunch sure can sling blame like the entitled white boy he was raised to be.
“The letter was filed as evidence of Loeb’s declaration that the embryos had become one of three major issues that led to their relationship’s decline. Other issues included that she allegedly refused to help him in his condiment endeavors, and that he allegedly went out partying too late and too often”
What’s the condiment endeavors about?
Onions. He sells onion based condiments.
He started a company that makes crunchy toppings for things like hot dogs, salads etc. Deep fried onion bits, various crouton flavours, things like that.
When he launched it he did a few interviews Sophia had clearly pulled some strings to get, and he used her name a lot to try and promote it. Apparently he thought she should have done even more.
Thanks guys.
Oh goodie, I love that kind of stuff. I would not buy his products thou.
Que idiota!
Pendejo
Si, el es. Mucho.
While I do think it is rude to speak the language your partner doesn’t speak to others in their presence, if you’ve been with someone as long as he was w Sofia, & engaged, you’d think he’d WANT to learn her native language so he does feel included & dare I even say closer to her. I’m sure she would have appreciated him wanting to learn more about not only speaking Spanish but her country, her culture, etc. It seems like he was w her simply bc she was beautiful but obviously did not like the fact she was Colombian. I’m glad they didn’t have those babies together, he would have likely denied them their Colombian roots. Controlling Assface
My thinking exactly. If you love someone enough to want to marry and take steps to make babies together, I’d think you put in the effort to learn their language enough to converse. Not to mention if you want to be a successful business person based in South Florida. FFS
I bet this douche canoe hated that Sofia spoke Spanish because he couldn’t control her, almost like she “disobeyed” him. I also bet he hated her heritage and culture. I am sorry, but that letter of his is ridiculous! Este tipo es un idiota! Tu habla español cuando y cuanto quieras, Sofia!
Ummmmm okay. So what was he going to do when his kids spoke Spanish? Say no?
He’s sick and the judge needs to dismiss this frivolous suit and stop this man from controlling her via the law
You think this ass would’ve even let them learn Spanish? I bet not. He’s the living worst.
Good point although I’m not sure how you avoid it with half your family and your older brother speaking the language. Kids are sponges and they would’ve picked it up
Let’s say if he was hit by a double decker bus or trailer, I’d call the ambulance by saying ambulance ambulance out loud. Ok thanks bye.
This comment FTW
I didn’t wanna laugh but yep, I hollered. 😀
Yass. Lol. You just made my Friday.
so she didn’t financially supported him in his endeavors, won’t tolerate her speaking Spanish and go to strip club..sounds to me he gave some ammo to Sofia. If I was a judge I will send a pie to this turd’s face. But then again what did she see in this aubergine face. There is no soul but Republican dickery style. I am surprised he is not sitting st the table of Trump and Co debating our reproductive rights (there was no single woman nor black/yellow/red person). Just white dudes that want to bring the chastity belt back.
And Nick Loeb is a rude and classless abusive idiot with apparent mental health issues.
Sofia’s lawyer could prolly ask for a psych evaluation if needed. Just to make it official.
I hope to hell that happens. There is something wrong with him!
I actually think it’s great that he used this letter in a filing. If Sofia’s lawyers are as smart as they seem to be, they will use it to make the case that Loeb is a vexatious litigant and should be barred from ever bringing suit on the matter of the embryos again, since the terms are clearly outlined in a contract that he willingly signed.
how is speaking Spanish and visiting strip clubs are in any way comparable?
You read my mind!!!
Right?!?! Holy shit. This man is the worst. He’s like… “In case you get mad about this ridiculous list of psychologically abusive demands, YOU CAN’T. Because you tell me not to do stuff too. Like hang out with strippers. It’s the same.”
What the actual ever loving fuck?
La Real Academia Española must be a big fat brothel, in his opinion. What a d*ckhead!
Right? If anyone remains unconvinced that this man is a first class a-hole, that right there is the clincher.
I have a lot of friends and family who have English as a second language and I’m always so happy for them, honestly, when they have the opportunity to speak their native language with someone and just get to bllllaaaaahhhhh and let their thoughts fly without having to plot it all out or compromise their meaning with translation. As Gloria once said on Modern Family, “Do you have any idea how smart I am in Spanish?”
That episode is what this made me think of. I’m now wondering if the inspiration for that plot line had anything to do with Sofia’s frustration that her SO wanted to make her stick always with the language that made her feel less smart.
Yeah I feel the same. Like when my husband and I first started dating 12 years ago his English was more of a struggle and if he could speak his native tongue with someone it NEVER bothered me because I knew what a mental break it was for him to not have to think so hard before speaking. Thats usually how it goes when you LOVE someone and aren’t selfish
Onion Knight > Onion entrepreneur
Este disque hombre es un pendejo malcriado.
¡Dique! My Dominican heart jumped for joy upon reading your disque lol
Este tipo es un pobre y triste huevon
And probably world’s worst ex….
While I can understand that one may feel awkward in a group setting where everyone else is speaking a language you do not speak, it is her f’ing native language! & while her English is fine, I’m guessing, like most people I know whose 1st language is something other than English, she probably “thinks” in Spanish; her mind just automatically reverts to it because it’s her native language & she probably thinks/speaks faster in Spanish than in English & can get her words/thoughts out better that way.
He’s already shown what a major a**hole he is, he’s just digging himself a deeper grave now. & I hope he only dates women who speak English only from now on. 🙄 Although, honestly, I hope no other woman gives him the time of day, period.
Menudo pedazo de gilipollas que se quitó Sofía de encima!
Denying the use of Spanish in the States is denying the history of the country itself, since Spanish was the first western language spoken on that land, and not to mention the huge impact of Spaniard and Latinamerican presence in the USA. Instead of trying to bury it under the “this is America and we speak English”, the learning of Spanish it should be encouraged and embraced as pivotal role on American heritage and history.
What in god’s name did she ever see in this guy?!
People like Loeb, who can barely write English, should not have that attitude towards people who speak and write correctly in other languages. His letter shows idiotic mistakes like “Its” instead of “It’s” and “could of” instead of “could’ve”. More importantly, his letter shows he is a demanding idiot. Grandísimo pendejo (Great a**hole)
He is, and continues to be, the worst. She has moved on so far past him, and he can’t let go of any of it. How pathetic.
That’s not what he was getting at…and I loathe to agree with him. But speaking a foreign language around others who can’t understand is no different than whispering secrets in front of people. It is very rude and if I were around Spanish speaking people who didn’t know English I wouldn’t make it a point to exclude them by speaking English all night. Many of the moms in my pta do this and it’s very tiresome
She is so lucky she got rid of him.
My in-laws are immigrants who don’t speak English very well and always speak their native language to each other and to my husband. They own a store and one of their employees has called them rude for speaking to each other in another language in front of me and excluding me when we’re visiting the store. It really bothers me and gives me a xenophobic vibe when she says that (plus obviously she’s using me as a stand-in for herself). Like, (a) I can usually figure out what they’re talking about anyway by the occasional English words thrown in, and (b) how would you like to have to leave your home and family and move to another country as an adult and learn a whole new language? I think it’s really self-centered of her – and this Nick Loeb d-bag – to expect everyone to speak English around you when they are more comfortable speaking their native language. Worried they are talking about you? How about trust that your partner has your back and is not trash talking you!
It is rude to speak another language in front of someone who doesn’t understand that language. My dad doesn’t speak French and my grandparents and mother are bilingual. My mom would rip them apart if they spoke French to her with him around, and luckily they never did that because it is extremely rude, even if it is family.
This guy is a d-bag, but that doesn’t mean speaking another language in front of someone who doesn’t understand anything but English isn’t extremely rude.
Whenever I’m with my mom in public and we are conversing with a third person who does not speak our language, I always tell my mom to speak English otherwise the third person is going to think we are talking about them. It is about politeness.
I agree. My parents were immigrants and learned English. If we spoke the native tongue, we did it at home. And we were taught that it was the height of rudeness to speak it front of those who didn’t.
I understand feeling uncomfortable if you’re out with someone and they’re having a full conversation in a language that you don’t speak or understand while you sit there clueless and feeling left out. However, I learned Portuguese that way. While I agree that there are times that it is absolutely rude, I have found that more often than not if you’re interested in having the language broken down for you, people are more than happy to help you understand. Personally, as someone who was in a relationship with a Portuguese man, I figured I might as well take the opportunity and pick up whatever of the language that I could. I follow Sofia Vergara and her Joe Manganiello on Instagram and it would appear that Joe has had her teach him some Spanish. Sofia has also posted videos of him dancing to Spanish music with her family while wearing a Colombian soccer jersey. I think that’s cool. I like to embrace other cultures and I think when you’re with someone who isn’t American-born and they have a different culture, you HAVE to embrace that because it is who they are and a huge part of them.
This guy is an asshole for many reasons in my book. I can’t believe that this lawsuit hasn’t been thrown the hell out of court yet.
Really???? Que se vaya para el carajo!!
One the one hand he is a despicable humanbeing and she’s well rid of him, BUT is is incredibly rude to have a conversation in a different language in front of others. That’s manners 101. In every language/ culture on earth.
It is rude to speak another language when someone doesn’t speak that language. Growing up my parents spoke their native language at home and in public. As we got older and other people started having dinner or hanging out with us. We spoke English. Its rude to exclude people from a conversation especially at a table setting. If my parents started speaking their native language. its usually because we are talking about you or we don’t want you to understand.
The language thing I can understand. I don’t know if Sofia was maybe in a large group of people who only spoke Spanish or didn’t speak English very well I could understand speaking Spanish in front of Nick. But if she’s doing it with people who speak English well, that is kind of rude. It all depends on the context of the situation and who was present. I speak French fluently and mostly speak French with my dad. However when we are around our American family we speak in English because–guess what–they don’t speak or understand French!
Same with my French family. I sometimes will slip into English if I’m speaking to my mom or sister in front of them and then remind myself they don’t understand what I’m saying. Sometimes you can’t help speaking a language people don’t understand in front of them but since I know I have felt left out and uncomfortable in settings where people were speaking a language I didn’t understand, I get Nick’s perspective on this. But that doesn’t excuse he is a total idiot and moron and this whole lawsuit is just a waste of everyone’s time.
What makes a woman with so much going for her stoop to dating a complete and total @sshat?? It happens often. Are we as women conditioned to tolerate more bs? I think so. This is just yikes.
Why is any credence given to anything Abusive Psycho Boy says?
Wow he sounds abusive.
Why does ‘its’ get a (sic) but ‘never of’ doesn’t? The guy is in no position to be criticising anyone’s language skills when his own is pretty poor.
Yes, it is true that people who are bilingual like Vergara often use the non-official language to exclude people verbally. But so what? Everybody has the right to not share his thoughts with everybody else.
It is also true that it is rude to exclude people language-wise over a longer time in a conversation. And here it is the case that nobody can demand to be befriended by other people. If somebody doesn’t want to talk to you then you can think about why that is the case and you can find more interesting people 😉
I do get that Loeb is actually quite miffed that Vergara is happy.
He should have learned the la guage if he was to share his life with her.
Controlling idiot.
O e thing is to be rude and another to “exclude” him. He is so controlling and machista that he probably could not bear not understanding what was being said. He could have done an effort and practice spanish with their guests/ people at the party.
This whole embryos plot is so creepy. Like why would a man that can easily impregnate another woman without having to worry about how old he’s getting be so obsessed with those embryos? It’s obviously not the pro-life angle because if he was pro-life to that extreme he probably wouldn’t even be ok with artificial reproduction. So it’s either getting revenge on Sofia or wanting to raise the embryos to ask her for child support later. What a piece of trash. His letter doesn’t even resist commentary. I’m surprised it took her so long to dump him.
I’m very surprised at some of ya’lls responses ESPECIALLY cause as a First Generation Immigrant IS SIMPLY F*CKING EASIER FOR MY MOM GRANDMA AUNTS AND ME TO COMMUNICATE IN THE LANGUAGE WE GREW UP SPEAKING instead of spending extra time looking for the right words to say so my bf isn’t Excluded though we are talking about nothing having to do with him, YES some of my relatives can speak more English than others and we are not only Translating/but sh*t In a Cracker Even when ya’ll are Interloping in OUR personal spaces/private spaces We Apparently Don’t do enough Labor on a daily basis so even in our privacy .. That’s Expected?? When we stay handling /thinking/living/working In two Languages?? We should always be on for your convenience??!??!!?
I’m the wrong one for this post
+10000
Hey QQ,
I completely hear you and I am a native English speaker. I don’t think it’s rude. The only time it would be is if everyone was bilingual and it was a sit down meal and so one person was just sitting there awkwardly not understanding or being able to participate. In any other situation I don’t think it’s rude at all. And I also feel like a lot of the time people complain about this there’s a racist edge to it.
” We should always be on for your convenience??!??!!?” This. English is my first language, but to me the way some make people speaking in their native languages *All About Them* all the time is what’s bothersome/rude.
He’s a douche, but in multilingual groups it IS considered rude to speak with other people in a language that one person doesn’t understand.
I would be happy to hear him dissed in any language. Team Sofia on this one!
We need to have a point with these live action trolls where we just stop listening to them. Like, go away and nobody is going to pay any attention to you until you’ve demonstrated that you’ve grown as a person. Like, sit in front of this counsel of smart people and argue for your right to media coverage. Oh, youre pretending to think that you can steal your ex’s genetic material and turn it into a human being and you want to torture her with this abusive nonsense? Okay, that’s 2 years of media blackout for you. Go get a degree in something, take up gardening and gain an expertise… Go better yourself and come back and we’ll give you a 3 minutes on CNN to talk about your new lease on life. Probation, 6 years.
Have caught people talking about me in French [I can speak French, even though it’s not my first language]. I told the women “I can understand you, you know”, and one of them responded “Oh yeah, we know that you understand French, we just wanted you to hear what we think of you”!
I still think it’s an example of racist entitlement either way- whether his motive was “I can’t allow you to speak your native tongue because it might/must mean you’re speaking negatively about ME (whom it’s obviously ALL about)”, or whether it was the old “Don’t embarrass me/ turn off any of my uptight racist friends or relatives by speaking THAT language. We/ they associate it with low-class poor people” -type of thing. Somewhere, at some point in life, someone is going to express a negative or prying opinion about you or get a little gossipy about you even if it’s not something super-malicious, and it’s probably going to be an English-speaking coworker, classmate, cashier, waiter, doctor, teacher, neighbor, etc. And you’ll probably do it to others at some point too. So being hyper-vigilant about making sure nobody whose native tongue is anything other than English has the chance to say anything less than positive about you in another language seems like a silly waste of time. And the other part of it is that just because someone is speaking another language and it’s not one you understand doesn’t ,mean they’re talking about the English-speakers in the room. A lot of the times they’re not, that’s just the language they prefer and that’s their own. This just seems like another sign of what a messy, controlling asshole this guy is.
How on earth can a right to life group have standing in court to sue the Vergara? How whacked is that?