Let’s not start this #BiglyImpeachmentParty quite yet! Around Valentine’s Day, Bigly Trump’s National Security Adviser Mike Flynn resigned after less than a month in the job. Flynn was apparently on the phone to Russian officials during the last months of the Obama administration, telling the Russians not to worry, as NSA he would take care of all of those pesky sanctions. Flynn then maybe-probably lied to Vice President Pence about the calls to Russia, and that’s the “official” reason why Flynn resigned, because of his “lies” to Pence (Pence had publicly defended Flynn and lied too). Flynn was the same guy who started chanting “LOCK HER UP!” about Hillary Clinton during the Republican National Convention. He’s also the same guy who claimed (with regards to Clinton’s people): “When you are given immunity, that means that you have probably committed a crime.” Guess who wants immunity???
Former national security adviser Michael Flynn is seeking “assurances against unfair prosecution” in order to provide interviews to congressional panels investigating possible collusion between Trump aides and Moscow, his lawyer said in a written statement. The statement came after a report in The Wall Street Journal that Flynn has told the FBI and congressional committees he is willing to testify in exchange for immunity from prosecution.
“General Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit,” said Flynn’s lawyer, Robert Kelner. But Kelner said there had been “vicious innuendo” against Flynn in the news media and that “no reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution.”
The FBI is conducting a counterintelligence investigation into possible coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign — an investigation FBI Director James Comey has said could include criminal prosecutions. The House and Senate intelligence committees are also investigating Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, including possible collusion with Trump aides. Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr said Wednesday his panel is setting up an initial 20 private witness interviews and could seek additional witnesses later.
Kelner acknowledged in his letter that there had been discussions with both committees about interviewing Flynn. But a spokesman for the House intelligence panel denied that the committee had received a request for immunity from Flynn.
“No, Michael Flynn has not offered to testify to HPSCI in exchange for immunity,” said the spokesman, Jack Langer. A committee aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, also said Flynn had not offered to testify in exchange for immunity.
Kelner’s statement, though, made clear Flynn has some conditions before he’ll agree to congressional interviews.
Considering the ongoing debacle that is the House Intelligence Committee and the shadiness of their chairman, Rep. Devin Nunes, I’m not surprised that the House committee’s spokesperson is trying to deny and parse Flynn’s lawyer’s statement. But it’s pretty clear that Flynn is looking to save his own ass at all costs. As I said though, don’t start the Bigly Impeachment Party just yet. Flynn is not the John Dean of the Bigly Administration. Flynn has proven that he doesn’t have a conscience – he sold it a long time ago to Vladimir Putin. I would much rather see Flynn charged with treason… and then if he wants to testify under oath, so be it. He’s only seeking immunity because (I believe) the FBI’s investigation is like a noose tightening around his neck.
PS… Bigly just tweeted about Flynn too!
Mike Flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt (excuse for big election loss), by media & Dems, of historic proportion!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 31, 2017
Yes, it’s such a witch hunt, Bigly. Excellent damage control.
FLASHBACK — Mike Flynn: “Lock her up! … If I did a tenth of what she did, I would be in jail”
Now he wants immunity https://t.co/mJKvZJvyBz pic.twitter.com/zl44VSL7ez
— Bradd Jaffy (@BraddJaffy) March 30, 2017
just want to remind everyone that Mike Flynn spent the last few years of his career hyping the insidious threat of Muslim treachery
— Saladin Ahmed (@saladinahmed) March 31, 2017
How I imagine Mike Flynn's conversation with the FBI started out. #russiagate #uhoh pic.twitter.com/7Wu5iyxzkZ
— Daniel Vergo (@EveryDayGov) March 31, 2017
Photos courtesy of Getty.
If I didn’t believe in karma before…
Karma is biatch that will come and bite you in the booty.
I hope Flynn was paying attention yesterday when Clinton Watts told the Senate to “follow the trail of dead Russians.” We know how Putin deals with people who know too much.
There’s a different megan (with lower case ‘M’) posting on the threads today, confusing the hell out of me. For a minute I was concerned that you may have gotten bitten by a Trump zombie and turned on us.
Glad you’re still with us, friend.
@Kitten if that happens, please promise you’ll go Daryl Dixon on me.
Ha, I was confused by that other megan at first, too! I’m also glad you’re still here too, Capital M Megan, with your thoughtful insights.
I have been saying that non-stop since yesterday!
My roommate voted for Trump despite of it all. He said that as long as Trump builds the wall and ejects illegal immigrants from the US he does not care what Trump and his people do. I get the horrible feeling that a lot of people in the US who support Trump feel the same way. Trump could murder someone on Fifth Avenue in broad daylight and they would not care.
My point is that Trump’s supporters will not care if Flynn committed treason because Russia helped Trump win the election.
How bad is the illegal immigration? I am non-American and I am not white, but illegal is illegal. Doesn’t America already have strict migration policies in place? What do they want? Does America let anyone be a citizen so easily? Maybe their problem is they want zero white people even if they are legal.
I am aware that illegal immigration is a serious problem in the US but choosing Trump to address that problem was a horrible mistake. He will cause way more damage than good to this country.
I would guess that a lot of the illegal immigrants are doing work that Americans don’t want to do, same as the UK, but they’re the scapegoat for everything.
@Becky: That is precisely it.
Not to mention that politicians have been known to employ undocumented immigrants themselves. I honesty don’t know how pervasive it is but I do know this anti-immigrant stance is part and parcel of the GOP narrative of “why should we pay for anything that might benefit anyone else?” I do know that a wall isn’t an effective solution.
Not as bad as the anti-immigration people want us all to believe and yes, they want to keep the US as white as possible
Anyone ever listen to a podcast called ‘the Weeds’? They had a really good podcast on the legislation history of immigration in the US. Basically LBJ ‘trapped’ what was essentially migrating workers in the US by making it so impossible to go back and forth.
And nope citizenship isn’t really easy in the US (except for the marriage loophole) that’s part of the problem.
Many people voted for Trump and Brexit because of that –> fear/hate campaign. I watched an interview about Brexit and people were asked if they are not scared that prices for certain products are increasing etc. and they didn’t really have an opinion about that. It’s all about immigrants/refugees.
I was about to say that – I know a few Brexit voters and they don’t care that May’s incompetence and a desperate EU will eff us over 100 times from Sunday. As long as those pesky immigrants are stopped cause they are the source of all evil /sarcasm/.
I have tried but there is no reasoning with these rabid morons – they will never see the reality, they are too blinded by their prejudices and the fact that they ‘won’. We’ll see who ‘won’ in about 5 years when we’re all drowning.
i think his rabid followers are beyond any help or reasoning. But there have been (or at least this is my big hope) some voters, who take all this corruption and the involvement of a foreign power at bit more seriously and might be swayed to vote differently during the next election. Especially, since a lot of the campaign promises will not be fulfilled.
Sadly so many people still support trump despite what his horrible poll numbers state. I think Trump has lost many of the swing voters he picked up in November, but something like 85 percent of Republicans still support him. But when you listen to why they support him its things like the border wall and the travel ban, both of which still have not come to fruition. Republicans courted white nationalists and they got them and more and more they are looking like the white nationalist party.
Yes. Collusion with Russia means absolutely nothing to them as long as the wall and travel ban are in the works.
A few are waking up to the trainwreck. A bit late, though.
http://twitter.com/trump_regrets/status/847188421772763137
@LOLO86LF yep agree with you voting for DT will not resolve illegal immigration. I think his voters are just full of excuses. They just won’t listen. No political candidate is perfect but voting for DT is just voting for racism, bigotry, pure anarchy and voting against scientific and established facts. Disgusting family.
I am starting to feel hopeful. I know I shouldn’t and ought to just stick with watching April the giraffe.
Please, Universe…let this be the beginning of the end.
What is scary is how Trump will try to deflect attention away from Flynn’s testimony? If Mike Flynn wants immunity then what he has to say must be very damaging to this administration
baby fists’ deflections from the truth are no longer scary, we’ve come to expect them and recognize how they underscore his profound psychosis and evil. I also can’t get too hopeful that Flynn will be truthful in any testimony he offers. He is truly evil.
For a former NSA and head of the Defense Intelligence Agency to request immunity is astounding. Trump can try to deflect all he wants, but he can’t control the message on this. During yesterday’s press briefing, Spicer looked like he had seen a ghost. I am guessing WSJ had informed the White House before they ran the story. Add that to the story about Nunes’ White House sources and I think they are all feeling the noose tighten. Trump may be too batsh$t crazy to understand the implications, but the rest of them know what is coming.
He’s tweeting this morning that Flynn is seeking immunity because the democrats and media are conducting a witch hunt because they can’t accept his win of “historic proportion.”
The responses are EVERYTHING!😂😂😂😂😂
http://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/847766558520856578
The delusion is deep, isn’t it?
SusanneToo: I know…”Ok skippy, it’s once again time for me to explain something’s to you. Go grab your blanky, this will take a few tweets.”
The deplorables’ increasing tantrums at how many people troll Trump’s tweets are everything too!
the memes and gifs are so on point.
The website is called The Hill: “The Senate Intelligence Committee has turned down former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s request for immunity in exchange for his testimony in the panel’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election — at least for now.
The committee is not receptive to the offer “at this time,” according to NBC’s Kasie Hunt.”
He may want immunity but has the FBI accepted his terms. There is a part of me that hopes the FBI don’t even if he has tons of evidence against everyone involved.
Since he is asking for immunity the government must have enough evidence to take him to court and win. Last time I checked, the Feds don’t go after someone unless they know they have an iron clad case against someone. I honestly thought Agent Orange was going to give up first because he has a long history of giving up on things when it looks as if he has to work to get it done. I’ll take what I can get, though. I just hope Flynn takes everyone down with him: Pence, Eddie Munster Ryan, Geriatric Turtle McConnell, and even Trey Gowdy. Burn them all.
Flynn was “thrown under the bus”, and he is in the position to take down Trump and his WH gang. Stock up on popcorn.
I was on the subway several nights ago with a guy I know works at the US attorney’s office and a friend of his who is an FBI agent. They were giddy and practically dancing about this as they were talking about it quite openly. If it had filtered down within both agencies, to the point employees were talking about it in public, days ago, they must be very close to a deal. The guys were also saying that Sally Yates can and will do tons of damage.
I hope Yates is in a safe place. Flynn too. I don’t trust Trump’s people and I certainly don’t trust Putin.
Maybe when donnie meets with his boyfriend in Finland he’ll ask for asylum.
Lightpurple, I REALLY REALLY needed to hear this today.
Don’t get too excited, yet. Asking for immunity for someone in his position is de rigueur.
I have much more faith in a Bernstein/Woodward/DeepThroat scenario taking them all down. Too many of the “good guys” (FBI, prosecutors, investigating committee members) are pro-WH.
Also, Russia is killing off its journalists/informants/those with info at an alarming rate.
Could be first of the dominoes to fall.
And only a stooge would tweet about it like EZ-D just did!😂
Le’ts hope so. This POS has gotten away with a lot of shady stuff, not to mention nepotism up the whazoooooo! 🙂
At the moment all I can say is 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Bigly isn’t the sharpest tool in the shed, is he?
Doing sketchy stuff with casinos is one thing, but this is a different playing field. Daddy’s money and some nefarious connections won’t be as helpful now.
Seriously. He has no idea how ignorant he really is.
His tweets in response are so stupid they make me physically angry just at the sheer stupidity of it. Like THAT’s your response? ! What the hell!
Well, 45 clearly doesn’t believe that he is going to say anything damaging – that could be his usual hubris or it could be that he and Flynn and all their cronies are purposely creating a dramatic set up so he can get in there and present precisely no new information at all, while simultaneously securing immunity from further prosecution in the future. It’s not like lying under oath when the odds are stacked in your favor is going to be a big concern for Flynn, 45 or any of their gang.
While it’s true that those thugs cannot be trusted. I don’t think they could play the FBI so easely.
Forget immunity. Flynn might get a plea deal in exchange for his testimony. He’s a conspiracy theory nut, so anything he has to say would need extreme scrutiny.
@YT I’m worried the “story, Flynn has to tell is one of his wild conspiracy stories that has no basis in fact, hence no value to prosecutors.
I think so too, YT. Offer him a deal contingent on the amount of info he gives and its value to those prosecuting. The bigger the fish, the better the deal. I think he’d jump at the chance to avoid hanging for treason, no?
Trump is scared this is finally catching up to him and his Twitter screeds are not going to save him. Treason, if the standard is met and proven, is punishable by death in the US.
Yeah, the US only hung one Confederate after the Civil War, so I doubt that will happen
I guess I’m feeling cynical about this. I feel like Flynn might just spew a bunch of nonsense while implicating no one.
+1
Also, Trump’s tweet makes me think that he’ll stick by Flynn, and Flynn will stick by Trump.
But trump stuck by the Freedom Caucus one day and then the next day he didn’t. trump stuck by flynn for NSA and then he didn’t. trump stuck by ryan post ACA loss then he didn’t. trump has no loyalty to anyone but trump.
I’m with you. Teflon Don and his band of liberty pirates always get away with it.
Remember when HRC has immunity when testifying about Benghazi for 11 hours?!
OH RIGHT, SHE DIDN’T ASK FOR IT.
(goes and puts head down–can they all be impeached and in jail already?)
I have never understood why people get upset about “illegal immigrants stealing” jobs. Nobody stole that job from you. One of your fellow Americans HIRED THEM to do that job, probably so they could pay them under the table or less than they should. Be mad at the business, not the workers!
Michael Flynn looks like Marshall, Edina’s con man/ huckster ex-husband, from Ab Fab. That is all I can see now.
A few years ago beet red Alabama passed the harshest anti-immigration law in the nation. Anyone who picked up an immigrant hitchhiker could be prosecuted. Churches couldn’t serve as sanctuaries. We teachers were mandated to squeal on anyone we suspected was illegal, and on and on and on. Many people of Mexican descent, legal or illegal, left the state. The farmers were up in arms because they knew that it would be hell to find Americans to do the backbreaking labor no matter what wages were paid. It’s sick. I do think most of us ignored the law’s requirements, but it had the effect of causing many to flee.
Yep, I live in rural Alabama, surrounded by farms and chicken plants. I teach at a community college and I could not care less about anyone’s legal status. I’m too busy trying to figure out why no one in my class could remember who wrote the Hallelujah Chorus. My sister teaches in an elementary school and around this time of year the student population has always been in flux as the migrant workers travel through.
SusanneToo, it is sick, I can imagine how hard that was for you. Just curious about how the farms were affected by the loss of labor.
OT, but have you listened to the new podcast S-Town? It’s set in rural Alabama and paints a very evocative picture of life there.
@Esmom. Not sure exactly how the farms were ultimately affected, as there wasn’t a lot of follow-up coverage once the flurry wore down. I do know quite a few Mexican tiendas and small restaurants shut down. And teachers in Mobile seem to have ignored the squeal rule as I never heard of a raid based on that.
I didn’t know about that podcast. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
Illegal immigrants do jobs most people are not willing to work for a low wage. Remember AMERICANS hire illegal immigrants to pay them below minimum wage. Why don’t we prosecute those Americans?
Buckle up and hold onto your hats, folks. So far, late Friday afternoon has been the time for jaw-dropping surprises in this administration. So, what will this afternoon bring? Aside from sleet and snow that’s about to be dumped on us.
Sally Yates? Haven’t heard from you in a while? Anything to say?
Cue Ivanka posting cute kids pictures on Twitter and The Really Stupid One posting a baby ultrasound or something.
And then it’s off to a family-owned property to rack up some more bills for taxpayers!
Maybe ivanka got preggo last night and they’ll announce this afternoon. They seem to be aiming for Duggar territory, anyway.
This is the time of year where I ask myself why I choose to live here, LP. It’s almost April and we’re still dealing with this shizz :/
I hope something good drops this afternoon but I’m always so pessimistic with this administration…
It is so damn WET out
It’s nasty. Spring in New England is always such a con.
Ivanka is in NYC attending a party at her in-laws. So much for working the day after she became an advisor.
How much did it cost us for Princess Nagini the Corrupt of the Most Sacred Horcruxed Vagina to travel to NY for a party?
And what a shame. I hear the LGBT community is planning a dance party outside her D.C. home this weekend. She’ll miss all the fun.
I bet the orange one will have his orange jumpsuit monogrammed in gold..
Gold stripes!!!
I’m hoping Nunes gets caught up in the net as well:
Three White House officials tied to files shared with House intelligence chairman
The White House role is raising questions about the independence of the House’s Russia investigation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/three-white-house-officials-tied-to-files-shared-with-house-intelligence-chairman/2017/03/30/de4b8c30-1589-11e7-9e4f-09aa75d3ec57_story.html
So crazy! The thread continues to unravel. The only hope we have is that everyone really is as stupid as they appear.
This has made my da…(no).
This has made my wee… (not that either).
This has made my decade!!!
same guy who went after Hillary Clinton chief of Staff given immunity (he and 5 others) and said in 2006 in Meet The press “when you seek immunity that means you know you have commited a crime”.
This bizarre man Flynn and leader of the “lock her up” chant and supporter of Russia and Turkey could be hitting a brick wall of his own making very soon. How can a man like this possibly love America when he puts other countries ahead of his own.
It is baffling and infuriating that men as deranged and incompetent as this end up in such high positions. He’s not even an evil genius, he’s about as dumb as a box of rocks.
I laughed so hard last night when my son read me his headline. What boggled me was the fact that he is an actual army general. I would never have pegged him for having guts.
He looks like someone playing dress-up, doesn’t he?
I wouldn’t want to be in a foxhole with him.
I hope this is the beginning of the end once and for all, and then we can get back to ‘normal’ gossip on this site! 😉 I had to delete my news app because of him as I can’t stand hearing about him, and stopped watching the news so I only hear about Trump here. It’s ruined celebitchy a bit for me 😓
What happens if (and hopefully when!) it’s found he’s done something highly illegal/treasonous and that his close associates were in on it? I’m not American so my view as an outsider is “how can any of those in office be trusted?” I know Nixon stood down and someone else was appointed, but could the fall of Trump lead t another election potentially if no “suitable” untainted replacement can be found?
Flynn can ask for immunity from this “witch hunt” but it wont be granted unless some non with hunt evidence is given. Trump’s a dingbat for tweeting like he did about this.
I’m no Trump fan but I find it interesting that this guy was so willing and happy to be in the Trump administration and now all of a sudden that things got sour and he’s out, he wants to spill all of his secrets and have some born again come to Jesus moment. If you were cool with it while you were doing it, you’re still a POS in my book.
Trump, Spicy, O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Paul Ryan, and others of that ilk, are not speaking, tweeting, pledging, or otherwise engaging us. It is the “low-information” voters, i.e., those whose IQ does mot exceed their body temperature who are buying what they’re selling. During the Nixon administration the right wing entitled white men put what is referred to as the Southern Connection, I think it was called, targeting Christians, and posing as Jesus Lovers themselves to turn the then poor and mostly middle income Democrats into Rethugs. They showed folks like the Duggers that hey, you too can push that camel through the eye of the needle and live like we do. It really caught on during the Reagan administration and yadda yadda they’re buying Ivanka’s crap online cause Jesus wants us all to prosper. Thus effectively wiping out the middle class and now they’re making no bones about wiping out the poor and the infirm. I personally believed for awhile that the Bigly Boy Era was karmadic justice for the entitled white man stealing this land from the red man and building it on the back of the black man. But nah, monkeys probably did the same thing. This was a vast right-wing conspiracy by god-less evil overlords in the name of Jesus Christ and that if anybody was needing a good smiting, they would be the first to be smote. But they’re eating ham and yukking it up at their Brothers in Christ.
There’s a tweet from Flynn lawyer predicting a pardon. Pardon means he can take the 5th.
None of the investigators have said they’ll take the immunity statement by Flynn’s lawyers. Not gonna bite!
The investigators can also assess, without granting immunity, whether this is worth their time AND they can do this by talking directly to Flynn. It’s Flynn who’s stuck in the hard place because they can subpoena him (compel him) to talk. Then he can take the fifth and the FBI can charge him criminally with treason based on direct evidence from other witnesses (Manafort, Stone, Page, et al.).
So many of these people act as if rules/laws don’t apply, they’re smarter than everyone else…it’s ridiculous.
This is history in the making, and I hope a few will continue to fall on the side of the Constitution, instead of party of greed, and hold them accountable. There are state and local level people who’ve gone to prison for far less, because they abused public trust, funds, etc., while in employ of a government entity or elected office.
Their uppance cometh and rat soon.
He looks like a movie villain, no?
Every last one of ’em. Spicy reminds me of the character Saul from Breaking Bad. Bannon is just the Devil incarnate. That thing on Bigly’s head is just ridiculous and should have been reason enough to laugh him right out of Dodge cause it just goes to show he even lies to himself. Nunes is one of the little Spy vs. Spy in Mad Magazine hopping out of a car in the middle of the road cause he’s in the big leagues now, Buddy Buoy.
I’d be happy to give Flynn immunity if they think he has something useful to say. Asking for immunity doesn’t always mean “Guilty! Guilty! Guilty!”. If you think you could be prosecuted for political reasons or just for following orders, it’s a wise precaution. President Tweeter will be more hopping mad than usual if Flynn spills anything significant, and Tweeter is a very vengeful man whose grudges last for a lifetime.
But I advise that the committee station several body language experts around the room and immediately get their feedback about whether or not they think he is telling the truth. Preferably on the fly via text.He’s such a loon, though, might be hard to tell.
Is Flynn receiving protection? ???
Ohhhhh he has a punchable face!
Breaking news: Flynn’s just-released financial disclosure shows 3 separate Russian sources for income in 2016. None of these were shown on his prior financial disclosure. Ooops!
Maybe the Trumpster better think twice before he continues defending this dude?
Time for us to DEMAND Trump’s tax returns.
Saw a tweet that he is asking for this publicly, to protect his life. That makes sense. I hope if he goes down, he brings the rest of em down.