Todd Rundgren: Trump is ‘dishonest, a pathological liar & an ignoramus’


Last month, Baby Boomer/rocker Todd Rundgren got into some hot water. He was doing a rather mild-mannered interview about his new album with Variety, and the conversation turned to politics. Rundgren said flat-out, “If you’re a Trump supporter, don’t come to my show, because you won’t have a good time. And also, I don’t understand your frickin’ values.” It became a thing. Fox News yelled about it and Rundgren got death threats and a ton of bad press in the conservative media. Concert promoters were worried and Rundgren got death threats. One month later, he sat down with Variety again for a follow-up interview. He’s not backing down. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights:

Things have died down: “Well, the biggest issue turned out to be my relationship with Yes and the Yes festival — they were concerned about what negative impact that might have on them. But things have pretty much died down. There aren’t enough of these angry people to go around, so they all move en masse to somebody else in due time. But in the first week, there was a lot of panic and a lot of mixed feelings. The record company was glad, because it brought attention to the record as a whole, but other people, agency people, were wondering what kind of net effect it would have. As it turns out, it seems like crowds have been getting bigger rather than smaller, and it’s either out of curiosity or because people are actually coming to the show to make a statement that they don’t want to see people being intimidated for essentially expressing an opinion.”

Targeted by the right-wing media: “The initial response was quite obviously orchestrated, because almost all of it was vitriolic and almost all of it started out with “You showbiz liberals…!” [] channeled a bunch of their morons over to Variety to make commentary, even though none of those people ever read Variety before. So that was weird and ironic at first. Eventually the bots and trolls get overwhelmed by the real responses, which are at least more measured. Yeah, there’s still negative response from certain people, but as a broader audience has actually gotten to see what the hubbub is about, they’ve just found it amusing, I think, albeit with a certain amount of biting commentary.”

He still doesn’t think Trump supporters should come to his show:
“They tried to cast it as me having some kind of inherent dislike of the Trump voter. Here’s the problem, and here’s where I get in trouble again. [Laughs] There are certain things about Trump that are irrefutable: He is dishonest. He is a pathological liar. He’s an ignoramus. These are all provable. “Evil” (is) a little less (irrefutable); it depends on your definition. I consider him evil because he makes other people do things that they regret and that they wouldn’t do otherwise. Those people who are still 100 percent behind him, the only thing you can deduce from that is that he represents them perfectly. They support the dishonesty, they support the ignorance, and they support the evil. But it isn’t like those are the people that I dwell on all the time. I’d much rather think of people as having some concern about the truth, and wanting to know what’s real and what isn’t real, and wanting to help other people rather than destroy them because they’re not loyal to you. That’s what I’d prefer to believe about people. But the plain reality is that anybody who will still go to the wall for this guy is everything that he is. And that’s depressing. [Laughs.] And if those people walk out of my show, as far as I’m concerned, buh-bye.

[From Variety]

The entire interview is a worthwhile read, he goes on at length about what he thinks of death threats, and the intimidation of artists. He also talks about how Trump has empowered white supremacists and how genuinely scary that is. I completely agree with Rundgren when he talks about how terrifying it is that Trumpers – having already seen Trump in action for five months as president – are still 100% behind him. Those people haven’t seen or heard anything that would weaken their support. And that’s terrifying.

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  1. Scarlet Vixen says:

    Pleasantly surprised to see CB cover Todd Rundgren! One of my older brothers is a huge, longtime fan and has met him several times. I’ve seen Todd in concert a couple times too, and he is really talented and puts on a great show. He is a super intelligent, well-spoken guy, and I’m glad to see that he is speaking his mind and isn’t backing down.

    • Megan says:

      I love TR. During the W years his shows were very political. I imagine that are now as well.

  2. Erinn says:

    I like this interview. Well spoken, to the point – and none of it is wrong. He’s smart to focus on the irrefutable kind of stuff – while also stating what counts as evil in his books – and I completely agree.

  3. GingerCrunch says:

    Saw Roger Waters last week and during Pink Floyd’s ‘Pigs’ they showed a constant barrage of disturbing drumpf images followed by the Orange One’s most eloquent quotes. It was an amazing thing to behold. Keep it coming, people!

    • Esmom says:

      Oh yeah, I heard about that. I said below my son just saw U2 and they also had a pretty strong anti-Trump message. It’s beautiful to behold.

      • GingerCrunch says:

        Nice! We’re going tonight in DC. Interested to see the crowd reaction! 😊

      • Esmom says:

        Wow, good for you for seeing all the shows! My son has Tom Petty, the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Lollapalooza still coming up. I would love to join him at Lolla to see the Killers but alas my company is not preferred.

      • GingerCrunch says:

        He’s got great taste in music! You couldn’t DRAG me to a festival. That’s how old I am.

      • Esmom says:

        GC, I’m not really interested in Lollapalooza either, just the Killers. I’m too old, too.

  4. Esmom says:

    I’ve never followed him or his music but kudos to him. He speaks the truth. I loved his comment, “There aren’t enough of these angry people to go around, so they all move en masse to somebody else in due time.” I hope that’s true. My son recently went to see U2 and said Bono had strong words about Trump, too. I’m glad these artists are using their platforms to support the resistance.

    Which reminds me, someone on Twitter pointed out that Obama’s father’s day tweet got more likes than Trump’s last 17 tweets combined, lol. So maybe it is true that truth and love will eventually prevail.

  5. anniefannie says:

    Principled artist that can’t be muzzled by Trumpers OR his handlers. Despite the get up he’s sporting in the header pic I’d gladly give him any and all sexual favors….

  6. QQ says:

    IDK who Todd Is but come on through with the Read and the sense but he is A) serving me some COLORS, Baby!! and B) Off the General Principalities of the Matter I WILL go immediately to Spotify and check his music even if it’s country… if it is I’ll let the whole thing play without putting on my headphones but STILL… He gets all the Streamed music love today ( since White dudes and their compliant silent and secret voting and silence and these past years and not all trump votering OOFF)

    • anniefannie says:

      Awesome idea QQ! I’m going to post the suggestion on FB! I’m a I lifelong Rundgren fan , I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised….

    • Esmom says:

      It is a great idea. I wouldn’t call his music country, it’s got that baroque-ish 70s rock sound that instantly takes me back to my childhood in that era when I’d hear him on the radio.

    • Jaded says:

      Oh QQ you’re in for a real treat – I guarantee you’ll become a Rungren fangirl. Here’s my fave all-time song (I was 20 when this came out…I STILL listen to it!)

  7. Lolo86lf says:

    Donald Trump emboldening white supremacists out there? Trump supporters backing him up despite of all the horrible things he says and does? Nah I don’t believe it. Todd Rundgren is my new hero and I am buying his music on iTunes right now,

  8. MI6 says:

    A Wizard, A True Star.


  9. Radley says:

    I feel like I need to buy his record in solidarity. No lies detected. The man is exercising his 1st Amendment right to drop pure uncut truth.

  10. Jillybean says:

    I hate to admit I mix up some 70s rockers.. totally mixed him up with ted nugent! #whiteoldrockers

    • Jillybean says:

      Honestly- he’s the man who stepped in a lib Tyler’s dad before her mom told Steve Tyler. Stand up guy

  11. Anare says:

    Longtime Todd Rundgren stan. Glad to see this post.
    “Light of the world, shine on me, love is the answer. Shine on us all, set us free, love is the answer.”