Donald Trump didn’t disclose a second G20 meeting with Vladimir Putin

Trump meets Putin

At the G20 Summit two weeks ago, Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin came face-to-face. We actually don’t know if they had ever met before, because Trump has told so many lies about how often he visited Russia, etc. But they came face-to-face and it was a disaster. Trump was slavishly devoted to Putin, telling him it was an “honor” to meet him, putting his arm around Putin and then spending more than two hours in a meeting with him after their little photocall thing. In that meeting, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was in the room. People were already pretty mad about the meeting in general. But guess what? Donald Trump had a second meeting with Putin which he didn’t even disclose at the time. And there were no other Americans at the meeting.

After his much-publicized, two-and a quarter-hour meeting early this month with Russian President Vladi­mir Putin at the Group of 20 summit in Germany, President Trump met informally with the Russian leader for an additional hour later the same day. The second meeting, unreported at the time, took place at a dinner for G-20 leaders, a senior administration official said. Halfway through the meal, Trump left his own seat to occupy a chair next to Putin. Trump was alone, and Putin was attended only by his official interpreter.

The only version of the conversation provided to White House aides was that given by Trump himself, the official said. Reporters traveling with the White House were not informed, and there was no formal readout of the chat.

The administration official spoke on condition of anonymity to confirm the session, first reported Monday by Ian Bremmer, president of the New York-based Eurasia Group, in a newsletter to group clients. Bremmer said in a telephone interview that he was told by two participants who witnessed it at the dinner, which was attended only by leaders attending the summit and some of their spouses. Leaders who reported the meeting to him, Bremmer said, were “bemused, non-plussed , befuddled” by the animated conversation, held in full view — but not listening distance — of others present.

Putin’s aide provided the only Russian-English interpretation, the official said, because Trump’s designated dinner companion for the evening was Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, and the president has brought only a Japanese-English interpreter.

[From Washington Post]

I’ve always believed that Putin’s English is a lot better than he lets on, and I’m willing to bet that the Japanese-to-Russian translator was more than capable of translating Biglyspeak-to-Russian. So, it was a real meeting, where Putin and Trump could understand each other completely. And just the image of Trump leaving his seat just so he could sneak off to the corner to speak to Putin without anyone overhearing them? Ugh. This is so bad.

Also: we finally learned the identity of the “eighth man” at the Trump Tower meeting back in June 2016. The meeting included Don Trump Jr., Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner and five more people whose identities have been dripping out over the past two weeks. The latest ID: Ike Kaveladze, an American who works for a Russian real estate company. We know this because the Emin and Aras Agalarov’s lawyer, Scott Balber, confirmed his identity. Balber also confirmed that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has already been in contact to schedule an interview, meaning the investigation is looking into this meeting.

Trump meets Putin

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  1. Jerusha says:

    Of course not. When you’re sneaking off for a tryst with your boyfriend, you want to keep it on the downlow.😘😘😘

    • B n A fn says:

      Jerusha: I know You maybe joking, but this is serious, what is 45 saying to Putin that he does not want the American people to know? This man and his family is hiding something very serious and anyone with a brain can see this as clear as daylight.

      • cr says:

        It’s not so much that they had a private, ‘unscheduled’ meeting, I suspect that happens quite a bit when leaders feel something will be achieved face to face. But with only the Russian translator there, not a US one? Putin knows that’s not normal protocol, but I’m presuming Two Scoops does not. So yeah, what was Putin up to and what did Two Scoops give up?

      • Jerusha says:

        I think Putin is doing the talking and donnie is listening. It could be as simple as Putin saying, ” I want this and this and this and you will get lots of money from doing what I say.” Putin and his gang of murderers are billionaires, with more money than dumbass could dream of. And we all know that money (and daughterwife😜😜)are the most important things to him, more important than the fate of the USA or the cretins who support him. donnieboy may huff and puff and bluster on twitter and Faux, but he’s a puppydog for pootie.

      • lolo86lf says:

        Of course that undisclosed meeting is something to worry about. They probably discussed how they are going to interfere in the 2020 election to help Trump win. I would like to know what mother Russia is getting out of all this.

      • cr says:

        @lolo86lf, what is Russia getting out of this? Chaos and the undermining of our democracy. Something he’s also trying to do in Europe.

      • Tiny Martian says:

        Well, clearly Putin is Trump’s mentor. Haven’t we known that for some time now? And Trump is smug in his certainty that he is above the law and that he owes nothing to anyone, so he will continue to do exactly as he pleases.

      • Bellagio DuPont says:

        I don’t believe this is just about money, I think it’s far bigger than that. Rather, I smell fear. I really believe Trump is under Putin’s control via use of the so called “kompromat”. His slavish obedience (it feels more like obedience than devotion) is extremely puzzling when you think that Trump has no respect whatsoever for anyone. Yet, I haven’t heard trump utter a SINGLE bad word about this monster.

        And think about how many lies trump had told to cover the depth of his relationship with Putin……his hidden tax records……Eric’s comments about their massive financing from Russia…..and we still only know the tip of the iceberg…..There’s something underneath all this subterfuge and it is big.

        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jr-russia-meeting-latest-kompromat-yuri-chaika-natalia-veselnitskaya-jared-kushner-a7846796.html

      • Heidi says:

        What could Trump be hiding at this point that would actually shock anyone?

        Being besties with the Russian Mob – maybe they solved a few problems for him by making some people “disappear”? Maybe Botox Czar has Trump on video ordering a murder? So, lethal injection instead of Impeachment?

        Why was I thinking that my jawbone could not drop any further? Silly me.

    • Jerusha says:

      @Bellagio. trump’s money ties to Russia are well covered in the latest New Republic. Of course he wants to keep it secret.
      https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

      • Lucy234 says:

        Great article and completely implicates Trump regarding Russian ties. Why wasn’t his association with Russian mob members who used his hotels frequently as bases for illegal activities brought up during the election? The fact Russians have bought his apartments to launder money for years is a huge red flag along with their help in getting him out of debt.

  2. Nicole says:

    A this point we should change our flag and officially declare ourselves a Western satellite of Russia
    I love that congress is just like ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ about this when the red scare was not that long ago. It’s amazing really

    • BearcatLawyer says:

      What will it take for the Republicans to finally say, “Donny Boy, you’ve gone too far. We cannot protect you anymore?”

      • astrid says:

        I’ve lost so much hope for our democracy. Not one peep from any of the republicans

      • Nicole says:

        When we inevitably get into a war and we deal the GOP more legislative losses even though they have the majority.
        It’s funny because the constitution protects us from stupid presidents but it doesn’t protect us from a complicit congress

      • lolo86lf says:

        And then Trump will reply: “Don’t worry about me, I could murder someone on Fifth Avenue and my base will still support me”

      • Tate says:

        @astrid Me too. It is depressing

      • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

        @Nicole:
        “It’s funny because the constitution protects us from stupid presidents but it doesn’t protect us from a complicit congress”

        It’s totally ironic !!!! Still, in many other countries people rally and protest against injustice and presidents, parliaments, governments fall. Why doesn’t that happen in the US?

    • Esmom says:

      It is amazing, Nicole. I blame Fox and other fake news for changing the narrative about Russia. People are stupid and the GOP congress is cowardly af.

      • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

        It seems to me people in US live on different planets (IF ONLY !!!! ). How come part of the population is only exposed to fake news? Sad af !!

  3. Megan says:

    Un-f$ucking- believable. Trump is a complete psycho.

  4. nemera34 says:

    Of course there was just he, Putin and Putin’s interpreter. So this idiot had a meeting and relied on a foreign government to accurately relate their conversation. There was no American interpreter. So does the Orange one speak Russian so well he didn’t need one. Or was it a way to keep it off the record. BUT you know his dumb supporters still scream and support him. WTH has happened to the GOP. What is there about this man that they sink lower and lower for. I just don’t understand. He is a traitor. And that is clear as all to me.

    • B n A fn says:

      It was reported on the news that 45 was the one who insisted that only himself and Tillerson be in the meeting with Putin. We know Tillerson is the oil man, need I say more and 45 is the conman who likes to make great deals. He also insisted no interpreter, no video and no audio. They talked for 2 hours and 20 minutes. What were they talking about, no one knows. I don’t believe Tillerson and I don’t believe 45 on anything. If he told me the sky was blue I would not believe him, jmo.

      • Heidi says:

        Putin:
        “You quit the Paris Climate Accord, the Arctic will melt and I will exploit the natural resources. You get 5%.”

        Trump:
        “Deal.”

  5. Cannibell says:

    “Shocking,” said nobody. {sigh}

    • boredblond says:

      It’s frightening that so much has piled up that every disclosure that should alarm everyone is just another entry on the list of absurdly stupid, immoral, and dangerous behavior ..a daily dose of corruption to numb the public.

  6. CidyKitty says:

    I just keeping thinking to myself about that Last Week Tonight segment, where Olive likens Trump to a child taking a dump on a Ruby Tuesday Salad bar. “Stop that Child!” It starts being the responsibility of the people around it who are in control to stop it. And the GOP have seemingly lost their backbones in this. I don’t want to hear anything out of ANY Republican about “American Values” and “Patriotism” and “The American Party.” Until they acknowledge and stop the treason that is happening in our White House.

  7. Aiobhan Targaryen says:

    Foolius didn’t have a translator there. It was just Putin, Putin’s translator, and Foolius. This idiot didn’t have anyone on his side to make sure what was being said was accurate. Foolius has no real clue what Putin was actually saying to him or what he may have agreed to.

    Also, the guy at the meeting has ties to a money laundering scheme from the 90s. He was never charged with anything but that doesn’t mean he never committed a crime. It just means that he either was low on a totem pole or there was not enough evidence to go after him. Rachel had a good piece on this last night.

  8. RBC says:

    Maybe trump’s interperter was his good friend “Jim”?. We all know how “Jim” likes to keep a low profile
    As for Putin’s interperter, let’s hope they stay on Putin’s good side or they may suddenly go on a long “vacation”….

  9. B n A fn says:

    Am I the only one who believes 45 maybe a Russian spy? When he met Putin at the G20 for 2.3 hours without a interpreter or anyone taking notes for the meeting to report to the American people. The only two people in the meeting was Tillerson and 45 both cannot be trusted. Now we are hearing about another secret meeting between 45 and Putin without anyone taking notes or video. Then we have Jr meeting with Russians and denying this at first. Then saying there were only three people in the meeting which turned out to be eight people. Throughout the entire primaries, even today he will not say definitely that Russia meddled with our election. Something smells to high heavens imo. Btw, I guess the 400 lbs guy he mentioned in NJ was one of the spy who attended the meeting at 45 towers. I’m purposely refusing to write the name of a traitor to the United States.

    • Jerusha says:

      No, I’ve always thought Manchurian Candidate. And trump is as dumb as Senator Iselin.

      • B n A fn says:

        I don’t believe he’s brainwashed, I believe he’s greedy and his making deals to fill the pockets of himself and his family. I also believe he’s selling the American people down the drain, like he did yesterday by throwing his hands up in the air saying let the bill die, and he will not own it or the Repubs will not own it. In other words, this is too hard for me to waste my time on, let the people die, that’s what he’s saying. Anyone remember him saying it will be easy to fix health care and it will be cheaper and better.

      • Jerusha says:

        Not at all brainwashed-just dumb as a post to think he’s on a level playing field with Putin. He thinks he’s a dealmaker, but he’s being taken. Bigly! Exactly what I said in response to your question in #1. I think we can all agree he’s a greedy fool with the attention span of a gnat, not some devious mastermind.

        Raymond was the brainwashed one in TMC, Iselin was the dumb tool guided by his wife, the Russian operative.

      • B n A fn says:

        If he’s Just dumb as a post, but what is this post giving away? Is he and Putin fixing the election for next year, or 2020? Putin is not helping him without something big in return. I hope im wrong, but I don’t think so. We will find out sooner or later.

      • Jerusha says:

        @B n A fn. That is what I’m saying. Dumb trump thinks he’s on equal footing with Putin, but he’s delusional. Putin is playing him like a violin, by flattery and no doubt, money. So far, our relationship with our NATO allies has been damaged, Putin will call the shots re Syria, Russia will get back the compounds, there’ll probably be oil deals. Whatever else Putin wants, we’ll eventually find out. Putin finally has a president he can manipulate because TRUMP IS DUMB!

      • Bellagio DuPont says:

        @ Jerusha: 1,000,000% Manchurian candidate. Being controlled like a puppet, has been for many years. In fact, his sudden turn against Obama from the start of the birther days, just never seemed right. Parroting the same attacks consistently, completely regardless of any evidence contradicting his claims…..rather like he parrots his denial of Russia’s now very obvious meddling. I aaaalllllwwaaayyysss wondered if those birther attacks from him were sponsored. I believe so more and more every day now, the more I see.

        Trump is 1,000,000% adulterated russian goods. I feel like Putin is now so confident in his utter control of Trump that he’s not really even bothering to hide it anymore. Whatever he has on Trump is BIG. You lot are fighting Putin now, Trump is merely his stoodge.

        Good luck guys……you’ll need it.

        (sad face)

      • jwoolman says:

        Bellagio- the birther nonsense is an example of Trump’s original usefulness to Putin. I think the original idea was to use Trump simply for propaganda purposes, to promote things favorable to Russia. Obama was a problem for them especially since he was willing to impose sanctions, so undermining Obama with the birther stuff was probably considered useful. Trump had easy access to tv, making him especially helpful because whatever crazy thing he said was sure to be well covered.

        My bet is that Putin originally just wanted to use Trump the same way to pump public opinion against sanctions. But at some point, the plan shifted to actually trying to get the guy into the White House, where he could directly work on lifting the sanctions and in addition try to weaken NATO. The sanctions are a major problem for Russia economically and for Putin personally. (He can’t get his cut of oil profits until the sanctions are lifted.)

    • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

      I get your point, but he is too stupid to be a spy. He is an *** unintelligent man*** at all levels. He knows how to steal and bully, that’s all. He doesn’t even realize when he gets played. He is a source though, and has the power to request highly sensitive information. I hope such information is withheld from him.

      • B n A fn says:

        I don’t believe he’s as stupid as some people makes him out to believe. Look at all the people he’s has scammed all his adult life. Look at how he made hundreds of million of dollar by not paying taxes and get a break with about $900m tax free. look at the TUniversity, he scammed maybe a hundred million and settled for a $25m a fraction of the money he stole from those students, ect.

      • cr says:

        He’s cunning, but not that smart, and he’s a good salesman. But that doesn’t make him spy material. Malcolm Nance’s book The Plot to Hack America makes the case that he’s probably what’s known as a useful idiot. Not a spy, but being used and not really being aware that they’re being used.

      • Jerusha says:

        He may be a superior conman, but in his current position he exemplifies the Peter Principle in hyperdrive.

      • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

        I kindly disagree with you. His “achievements” re taxes and such do not make him an intelligent person. He most likely consulted tax lawyers who advised him on how to get away with that. He can’t even get credit for the university scam. He has people who help him. And sanctioning the scam does not make him smart. He’s evil.

      • B n A fn says:

        I agree with you on some of what you said. We have to remember Brannon is pushing his agenda, and 45 is following, just like the tax consultants and the lawyers who helped become a rich man with on his many scams. I’m not saying you are wrong, just that we see the same thing in different light.

      • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

        @B n A fn – thumbs up

    • holly hobby says:

      He’s dumb and also has an highly inflated sense of self. At the Repub lunch today, he went around the room and called out the Senators who killed Trumpcare. Saying he will get someone to run against that person. He pointedly made a comment directly at Heller. Heller just laughed it off. I really wish someone would grow a pair of balls and either fire back at him or walk out. Orangino thinks he’s Al Capone in the Untouchables.

      I don’t believe he has that much power and how dare he threaten Congress. On the other hand Congress should really grow a pair.

      • lily says:

        So wait. He’s threatening and intimidating in other peoples hearing someones job for not doing his bidding? He is stupid, evil and sloppy.

      • holly hobby says:

        Well those dumb GOP bit because Turtle Head just reopened talks to repeal. They are saying they are very close to getting the votes. I’m so mad. Congress is a separate entity. THey do not do the President’s bidding. WTF.

  10. Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

    WTF !!! Who knows what they talked about. Drumpf is so stupid. The WH didn’t have a Russian translator in the room? How convenient. Putin is a clever, versed, shrewed politician. As a (former) spy, he was probably trained to get information from a person without that person realizing what they are giving away. Atrocious, tragic, catastrophic, disastrous, I am running out of words here. Or not-cool, that’s something Drumpf would understand. Not cool Donnie, not cool !!

  11. Giulia says:

    Remember Pussy Riot? Here’s what their founder has to say about Putin’s character:
    http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/pussy-riot-founder-says-american-liberals-scapegoat-putin-distract-democrats

    • Jennie Hix says:

      Gee, could it be propaganda to further divide the American left?

      Nah, couldn’t be. After all, WYSIWYG when it comes to Russian state-run media.

      ETA: Someone remind Pussy Riot that the investigation into Russian interference began BEFORE HRC lost the election. FFS.

    • magnoliarose says:

      I found it interesting. Thank you for sharing that. She isn’t wrong. We have very serious internal issues that aren’t being handled because of politics and partisan ridiculousness.

  12. Eric says:

    But of course something completely insane like this happened. And Emperor Zero had no backup, just as Pootie planned it. What was discussed?
    Putin told him to return the American dachas to Russia that Obama took away. In exchange, Putin doesn’t reveal how corrupt EZ-D is. Haven’t you noticed in the past week articles claiming the gov is thinking about returning the spy houses to Russia?

    And at this point, more people were at the Don Jr “adoption” meeting than attended Donnie Two Scoops’ inauguration.

    C’mon Mueller!!!

  13. lightpurple says:

    Where the hell was Tillerson? Why am I paying that lazy scumbag a salary with benefits?

    I do not feel safe. At all.

    Let the House of Representatives know we want these traitors out of the White House now and if they refuse to act, then they are traitors too. Remind them what the punishment for treason is.

    • jwoolman says:

      Tillerson was put in his position specifically to work on the Russian oil deals, which are lucrative to both him and Trump. The sanctions put a halt to those projects and his job is to help get those sanctions lifted. That’s why Tillerson has been so uninterested in other aspects of the job. If he succeeds in getting sanctions lifted, I would not be surprised if he resigns and retires. There is no sign that he likes the job otherwise.

  14. Lindy79 says:

    All I’ll say to ANY Trump supporter is….what would you think or say if this was Hilary or Obama?

    If they say they wouldn’t care they are lying through their @rsehole

    Which is on their face

  15. Beth says:

    Like always, Trump is saying it wasn’t a big deal. Already blaming it on the #sick, fake media

    • Eric says:

      @beth
      But Donnie Two Scoops also projected in one tweet that it was “sinister.”

      What a tell!

  16. Chef Grace says:

    This is all just smoke and mirrors. The real horror show is being played out quietly. Placing judges who are whackado religious in key spots where they can do the most damage to our way of life and freedom, while that loony Pence waits in the wings to take over.

  17. why? says:

    I don’t understand why anyone is surprised that the King of Fake News had a second meeting with Putin, I figured that this was going to happen because the King of Fake News is extremely afraid of Putin. It’s like Putin wants everyone to know that the King of Fake News is the puppet and he is the puppetmaster. Trump has sold us to Putin and the GOP is sitting by letting it happen. Trump was dishonestly elected president(without the interference of the Russians, Trump would not be president), yet it’s Putin, Jared, and Bannon who have been making all of the decisions for this country. Where is the GOP in all of this? Following Trump’s lead by blaming Obama, the Democrats, and Hillary and whining about how everyone is focused on Russia. When is enough enough?

    Trump calls the press fake news, and then they continue to cater to him with exclusive interviews and by showing up the WH press briefings. The best way to make Trump stop calling them fake news is to boycott everything Trump, Spicer, Kellyanne, and Sarah. The press needs to stop showing up the WH briefings because they aren’t getting any valuable information from them. Spicer and Sarah continue to tell lies. Spicer told the reporters that Donald Jr meeting was about adoptions and the M act even though according to emails that Donald Jr posted, the meeting was about getting dirt on Hillary. Sarah keeps spreading the fake news that Obamacare is in a death spiral. When will enough be enough for the press?

    The King of Fake News is once again spreading fake news. He claims that the press is trying to make his 2nd meeting with Putin sinister. He spoke to Putin for an hour, didn’t have his interpreter with him, didn’t have a read out of the hour meeting, and never disclosed the meeting. The King of Fake News can’t understand why anyone would be suspicious of the 2nd meeting?

    • Annetommy says:

      Spicer sticking to that adoption story, despite the emails and the comments of both Jnr. And Snr., was bizarre and insulting. We can read.

      • Heidi says:

        The White House Gang only adresses Trumpists who probably can read, but would rather wait for the movie.

        Neal Postman was right, Americans are “Amusing ourselves to death” instead with Kardashian gossip.

  18. why? says:

    The King of Fake News spends hour tweeting that the press is spreading fake news, and then he turns around and spreads fake news. The irony.

    According to the King of Fake News, Obamacare is dying. Why do the press continue to let theK King of Fake News, Sarah, and the GOP say that Obamacare is in a death spiral? The CBO ranked TrumpRyancare, Housecare, and MitchMcare worse than Obamacare. The GOP can’t discuss how good their bill is because it’s not good.

    The King of Fake News is claiming that the GOP need to keep their promise to their constituents. The constituents of the GOP want to keep Obamacare. Based on the town hall meetings their constituents don’t want Trumpryancare, housecare, or MitchMcare. It’s the billonaires and millionaires in Trump’s administration who want to get rid of Obamacare.

    The King of Fake News claimed that it’s the Democrats who are obstructing the healthcare bill even though MitchM wrote the bill in total secrecy and excluded women GOP senators, the Democrats, and other GOP like Rand Paul. The healthcare bill didn’t have the support of the GOP, so how is this the fault of the Democrats?

    The King of Fake News claims that the Democrats have no thought process. This coming from the man who called the housecare bill “mean” after he partied in the Rose Garden with the GOP.

    Every time the King of Fake News opens his mouth, it just shows just how incompetent and ignorant he truly is. He has no clue what he is doing and it’s causing us harm.

  19. robyn says:

    What’s one more meeting? We don’t really know what happened in the first meeting or in all the other meetings with Russians and/or their sympathizers. Meanwhile, Russia is still chipping away in Eastern Ukraine and the American election was still hacked by the Russian’s with happy results for them. They even have a propaganda radio station close to the White House now so their invasion of America is coming along quite smoothly thanks to Trump and his enablers.

  20. Rapunzel says:

    DT is clearly a Russian operative. He’s a spy, not a Manchurian candidate or useful idiot. This is not paranoia. The Steele dossier is obviously real. It is being used to make DT do what Putin wants, which includes handing over classified Intel (the WH meeting with Kislyak) and ruling things in Russia’s favor (the spy compounds, sanctions).

    The department of war crimes is going, ffs. The state dept. is gutted. Russian oil interests are the SoS Tillerson’s price for helping. DT is helping for his own interest and to keep what is likely more than an ordinary pee tape from coming to light.

    Make no mistake- Trump is evil. We WILL see the video before this is through. It probably involves underage girls, or rape, or incest, or something nastier than mere piss play. We WILL learn Trump is a Kremlin agent. He WILL go down for RICO, obstruction, fraud and treason. The end is near. The USIC and various foreign intelligence will get him. There’s no doubt now. It’s a matter of time.

    • Jerusha says:

      I agree with your overall point, but trump is not bright enough to be a spy. A spy has control over his communications, he does not have diarrhea of the mouth or keyboard the way trump does. trump is a puppet. He is in thrall to Putin, either because of payoffs or money laundering or a pee tape. But a puppet, not a spy.

      • Pumpkin (formally soup, pie) says:

        Puppet all right (WRONG). He doesn’t have any sense of pride. He is delusional and UNFIT for presidency.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      So much evidence out there that Trump et. al. are out to destroy the U.S. I think the plan is to destroy our Republic, replace it with patriarchal autocracy and then join with Russia to create a white, nationalist superpower (Bannon’s dream for sure). I hate when I sound like I’m writing a comic book movie. But here we are.

      • LittlestRoman says:

        I am 100% certain that Mike Pence has wet dreams about creating/running a patriarchal autocracy.

    • Mermaid says:

      @Rapunzel
      +1,000
      Totally agree with you. He’s a spy, a puppet, both who knows but he is handing us to Russia on a silver platter. Follow the money. I have a theory he has a personal vendetta against America because the American banks wouldn’t lend him money after his bankruptcies. But the Russians did and so he’s loyal to them. And yes, they have something huge on him. I shudder to think what it is.

  21. KiddVicious says:

    I used “Donny Two Scoops” yesterday in a conversation, it was a hit. They wouldn’t stop laughing. I hope it catches on beyond CB. And thank you to whoever came up with it, I’m not remember who did it, though. Sorry.

  22. nicole says:

    When is he going to go down, all these stories everyday, and nothing, when is it going to come to an end and we get rid of this imbecile. Please let is be soon, I am hoping Muehhler comes up with the goods, because this is getting crazier by each day.

  23. Jay (the Canadian one) says:

    Confused on one thing: what Japanese-to-Russian interpreter? The quoted article said Japanese-to-English.

    • B n A fn says:

      The seating arrangements were he, 45, was sitting next to the Japanese Prime Minister so there was a translator for chit chat at the dinner. His wife MT was sitting across the long, long table next to Putin. 45 left his seat and went over to where Putin and MT were sitting and conversed with him for about an hour without a translator. At the start of the conference he was offered a translator because they knew he would be meeting with Putin, he declined, because he said he did not want their conversation to leak out. In other words Tillerson was the only one in his first meeting with 45 and Putin. Putin had his translator though.

      • jwoolman says:

        Did Melania stay near Putin or did she switch seats with Donald? The reports have been saying the only participants were Donald, Vladimir, and Vladimir’s interpreter and that nobody else was within earshot.

  24. why? says:

    The King of Fake News whined about how the failure of MitchMcare was the fault of the Democrats, but then he holds a lunchtime meeting today with who? Not the Democrats, but with GOP senators ONLY. The King of Fake News just keeps demonstrating how incompetent he is to be president. He has made this country a joke. The King of Fake News has no clue what he is doing. Now he wants to repeal the healthcare bill and replace it later? He is too lazy to even understand what this means. He would rather sit on twitter and tweet, than study and learn about the legislation he is trying to pass.

    What about the GOP? The scary thing is that they will vote for repeal only because they are too afraid of Putin to oppose The King of Fake News. The King of Fake News is going to step up the threats and payoffs in his GOP luncheon just like he did when they got the House to pass the Housecare bill.

    • why? says:

      The King of Fake News asked Dean Hellar if he wanted to remain a Senator(he sat Dean H right next to him). In other words, Trump is going to sabatoge their jobs if they don’t vote for MitchMcare. Isn’t this the same thing he did to Comey? How is this appropriate? Why is is trying to pressure Dean H into voting for MitchMcare when Dean’s constituents were clear that they want to keep Obamacare?

      What is wrong with the GOP? Why are they so complicit? How is The King of Fake News going to pressure GOP senators into voting for MitchMcare or sell MitchMcare to the public when he has absolutely no clue what’s in it? Shouldn’t he read and do research before going on tv to threaten GOP senators during “lunch”?

      Neil Gorsch is a menace and needs to be removed from the SC because he is showing that he can’t be independent of Trump and is tainting the rest of the SC which would have ruled against the Muslim Ban had he not been there. He has now prevented refugees from entering the US or renewing their Visas.

      • holly hobby says:

        That jerk Mick Mulvaney also threatened a House Rep (forgot the name but it’s mentioned in the same article) about losing his seat if he doesn’t vote for the Trumpcare bill. WTH people, you are empowered to do something. Those jerks do not control everything. They only control 30% (based on the polls who think they are doing a good job). Win over the Dem vote and you can keep your seat!

      • jwoolman says:

        I saw the video and it’s hard to tell if the talk about Heller was just guys joking around or a veiled threat. Heller seemed to be genuinely taking it as a joke.

        Trump doesn’t really have a sense of humor. He tries to fake it when appropriate, but he doesn’t always get it right because he doesn’t understand it too well. So he can sound off when he tries, but that is hard to interpret properly. Some people just don’t understand humor, my guess is that it’s just a difference in brain wiring (a friend had that affliction also). But Trump does have an extremely strong dedication to vengeance against anybody he decides has crossed him. Time will tell. We’ll see what Trump actually does, if he isn’t in jail by then.

      • holly hobby says:

        Jwoolman – I think he meant it because Turtlehead just reopened the repeal talks. They are saying they are very close to getting the votes. Seriously this is demoralizing. Congress doesn’t answer to him.

  25. Heidi says:

    This just in:

    A guy on CNN has a theory concerning the neverending handshake with Macron on Bastille Day: Trump was exhausted from the little walk and badly needed a break!

    I bet this was Macron’s revenge for “complimenting” Brigitte: No golf cart. How can he be so mean to a frail old man. Inexcusable. Americans should boycott French Fries.

    Seriously, I hope Trump finally starts his trade war with “very, very bad Germans” – can’t wait to boycott amazon, McDonald’s, Hollywood movies, Apple… He would be out of office within a month – these companies would act where the GOP does not.

  26. why? says:

    After seeing how much negative feedback “repeal now replace later” receivedan idea he got from Ben Sasse) , the King of Fake News is now back to promoting repeal and replace. This is getting ridiculous. The King of Fake News has absolutely no idea what he is doing, does he even know what repeal means? Now he is set to have a dinner date with those GOP members who refuse to vote for MitchMcare. We all know how this is going to turn out because it’s the same thing he did to the GOP to get them to vote for the Housecare bill which he would later call “mean”. I wish the GOP weren’t so complicit. They are going to cave into the King of Fake News’ demands and it’s going to cause more problems for us.

    The press are failing us. A reporter praised the King of Fake News for his healthcare bill speech, she said that he actually had some talking points and knew the information. What’s the problem? The things that the King of Fake News said during that meeting aren’t even in the bill. He was trying to sell a bill that he hadn’t even read. The press has one job to do and many of them are failing us. They are so bent on praising Trump so that they get a spot in Spicer and Sarah’s briefings that they will sell whatever Trump’s administration tell them to do.

    The Voter Suppression Commission had their first meeting today. During his introduction for the Voter Suppression Commission, the King of Fake News spread fake news. Claiming that he lost the popular vote because people voted illegal. He lost the popular vote because no one voted for him. He won because the Russians hacked our voting machines and systems. He also stated that the states are hiding something because they want hand over the voter information, this coming from the man who still hasn’t handed over his tax refunds.

  27. why? says:

    The King of Fake News is now trying to obstruct Mueller’s investigation, he is trashing his investigation and telling Mueller what finances he can and can not look at. He said that Mueller can’t look into non-Russian finances. So is he referring to his tax returns?Didn’t The King of Fake News and his kids say that they have no dealings with Russia, so by saying that Muller can only look into the family finances related to Russia, he just admitted that he and his kids lied. The King of Fake News is also accusing Comey of blackmail. When is enough going to be enough for the GOP? Based on the King of Fake News interview with NYT, which he called fake news, the King of Fake News gave into Jared’s demands to go after Muller. The press is failing us. Didn’t The King of Fake News call NYT fake news? And now they do another exclusive interview with him?

    The King of Fake News is upset that Sessions recused himself. Sessions had to recuse himself, he lied about his meetings with the Russians. He also asked why Sessions didn’t tell him that he was going to recuse himself before he hired him. We have the dumbest president in the world. Sessions wasn’t going to recuse himself before he hired him because Sessions didn’t think that anyone was going to find out about his meetings with the Russians. It was only after he couldn’t deny the meetings that he decided to recuse himself. n Sessions didn’t really recuse himself because he had a hand in firing Comey.

  28. Annetommy says:

    Of course it is. Surprised you didn’t add FAKE NEWS. The brief conversation lasted almost an hour. The WH tries to hide all sorts of things, why should this be any different?

  29. Annetommy says:

    And your last sentence is a replica of a trump tweet, bonus points for accurate regurgitation.

  30. Christin says:

    Sixty minutes is brief? OK…

  31. cr says:

    We need a higher quality of troll.
    Sad!

  32. Ashamed 2 b a FL Girl says:

    @Ils – Oh! Well, As long as you say so…then its all ok.
    If it is much ado about nothing then why do it at all. Baby fists knows everything Russia is suspect and yet, his arrogance and belief that he is above the law continues unabated.

  33. Lightpurple says:

    Trump tweeted that lie, you don’t have to repeat it

  34. Lady D says:

    Certainly earning your rubles Miss bot and paid for.

  35. Lilly says:

    @cr lmao

  36. holly hobby says:

    Ok honey keep drinking that KoolAid until the Russian COMMUNISTS march their way down the Mall.

  37. jwoolman says:

    LLS- Others at the dinner thought it was extremely odd and it seemed to be in the middle of the dinner, not the end. And it is not normal to not bring your own interpreter, I’m sure the Us Embassy could have sent one over quickly if needed. I’m afraid it really does look as though Trump did not want any witnesses that could possibly be subpoenaed in the US.

    The suspicious thing is that Trump met as privately as possible specifically with Putin (he probably lacked other opportunities for real privacy, so in plain site was the best option) while his Administration is under increasing investigation for unlawful cooperation with Putin’s Russia in an attempt to help elect Trump. Trump himself is strongly suspected of having blackmailable financial ties with Russians, such as loans or illegal Russian donations to his campaign or money laundering. And also Trump’s attempts to lift sanctions against Russia (likely to be the most important reason for a Russian interest in his election) have so far been a failure. Trump has been trying to lift sanctions since soon after he was inaugurated, but Congress found out and has been putting restrictions on what he can do without Congressional review.

    Trump’s Russian connections predate his run for President. We do know his expansions of his golf courses were backed by Russian money – his son Eric said so. Likewise his son Don Jr said several years ago that a lot of their incoming money for projects was coming from Russian sources. The reason other Presidents have divested from their business interests are precisely to avoid conflicts of interest, and in this case the potential for the US President to be blackmail bait is high. It is dangerous for a President to have potential pressures on him from foreign governments, especially one that has engaged in hostile actions against the US. Nobody would worry if Trump had been chatting with someone from Lichtenstein for a hour…. or from any other country in the room, actually.

  38. jwoolman says:

    Holly Hobby – don’t worry about Communists. Putin is a czarist… Really, the old days he wants back predate the revolution. He wants to be a modern czar.

    Putin doesn’t want to invade the US. He wants to be able to freely mess around with his neighbors. Ukraine is his test case. He wants NATO weakened and enough chaos in Europe and the US to keep those countries too busy internally to interfere with his plans. And he wants sanctions against Russia lifted by Trump. Many billions of dollars are at stake and Putin wants his cut. He is probably spitting nails at this point – all that effort, and the buffoon he helped elect hasn’t accomplished anything on that project. Not that Trump hasn’t been trying since soon after inauguration– but Congress has been finding ways to keep him just doing it by executive order.