It’s November. The month we’ve been waiting for, because Meghan Markle and Prince Harry could be announcing their engagement at any moment, right? RIGHT?? We were promised! Actually, we weren’t promised anything. Royal-watchers simple read the tea leaves and figured out that the engagement announcement would be coming any day now, and that Meg and Harry would be married by next summer. But what if we were rushing them? What if Meg and Harry won’t announce jack sh-t this year? NooooOOOOoooo.
Reports that Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are poised to imminently announce their engagement may be wide of the mark, sources say, with some insiders speculating that the couple will want to live together full time for up to a year before making any permanent, public commitment.
Despite there being little doubt that the couple have privately made a serious commitment to each other, the theory that Meghan’s Vanity Fair interview (which would not have been conducted without Harry’s agreement) was going to be swiftly followed by an announcement is starting to look less likely, as October rolls inexorably into November and the careful choreography of the royal Christmas impends.
“There won’t be any announcement until at least after Kate has had her baby in April,” one source with excellent contacts in the palace confidently tells The Daily Beast. The source said that they expect Harry and Meghan may even want to live together for as much as a year—as is normal among their peer group—before taking the next step. There is, theoretically, a window over the next three weeks in which an engagement could be announced, but if there is no announcement by the end of the month there is unlikely to be one this year.
Harry may have a reputation as a royal iconoclast, but he cares deeply about not upsetting his grandmother, and would be wary of appearing to seek to upstage the carefully planned royal Christmas schedule with an announcement any time after late November. There is little sign of any chatter in Harry’s royal office at Kensington Palace which would suggest a major announcement is in the offing.
Says another source: “The signs of seriousness are there—her VF cover, appearing together in public—but there is always room for doubt because he is a serial commitment-phobe. He is said to be a ‘love addict’ and his parents’ example is far from encouraging.”
Again, what is this obsession with tying Harry and Meghan’s wedding plans to Kate’s pregnancy? This is not Kate’s first pregnancy – I would understand the “walking on eggshells” vibe if it was her first pregnancy, because she would be pregnant with the future king or queen. But this is her third pregnancy and no one really gives a sh-t. No one is going to cancel or postpone their future plans because Kate is keen to avoid work for another few years. My take is still that the engagement announcement will happen this year, in the coming weeks (most likely). My take is that the confidant “source with excellent contacts in the palace” is none other than a Middleton plant, maybe even Carole. The Middletons are really nervous about Meghan, can’t you feel it? That’s the sideshow story right now, but in the coming years, it will be a much bigger story.
Photos courtesy of WENN and Vanity Fair.
What?! No! We can’t wait a year! We *need* a royal wedding 😑
ETA: “careful choreography” of the royal Christmas? If I recall correctly, last year W&K stole the spotlight on Christmas morning with their own set of (staged) photos featuring the kids and no one cared about the Queen’s plans after that.
Maybe William was reprimanded and this year the Cambridges will fall into line with the rest of the family?
And ITA with Kaiser that it is ridiculous that anything has to be planned around Kate’s THIRD pregnancy.
I would laugh so hard if the “source” here turned out to be Carole! She’s definitely the only one who thinks this pregnancy is important enough to warrant impacting Harry’s plans. Good grief.
@lorelai
Yes to everything you said!!! I don’t want to wait a year!!! Get married NOW already. I need this wedding.
+2 We NEED this!
Maybe we should start a petition. :-/
+3
It was stated Prince Harry Sparkle Couple had 3 weeks in November for an announcement or December.
With all the RF holiday functions togethet.
I’ll make signs, and we can take to the streets! I am due to go to the UK anyway I will just rearrange my schedule so we can make this happen. I can even do an ok British accent cause I don’t think the Yank thing will work to our advantage.
I need to think of a slogan or chant. Hmmm
The source tossed her hair and purred, “And I should know, oi! I have me own cheese locker in the palace, don’t I now, let’s just say the future crowned head relies on me hot cheddar on toast. We’re a snug lot, ain’t we, happy as are, no need for a rush for another duchess, why, there’s barely a thing for Her Highness Catherine to do, much less a stranger from America who I hear is struggling with workaholic tendencies. Don’t want to deprive the old Ma’am, the Queen, of her toddling about fun, now, do we? So might as well have the kiddos live together, at least until the new baby can walk and be a flower girl, wot! And everyone knows that planning a twelve tier marshmallow wedding cake takes absolute months!”
Yes! Take that, you little stick of sequins!
@dormouse 😀
Yeah, I’m not sure why every article about them involves Kate’s pregnancy. The world doesn’t revolve around Kate freaking Middleton. First they were talking about the actual wedding which is more understandable…but now a simple announcement?! The reports weren’t even this cautious about the queen’s anniversary. I agree all this obsession surrounding Kate seems like a Middleton plant.
LMAO at “the world doesn’t revolve around Kate freaking Middleton.”
ITA but good luck getting Carole or Kate to accept this fact gracefully!
Why would you think that KateM has anything to do with it? It is not her decision. They have weird protocols cos they are freaking royals…
I don’t know if she has anything to do with it but it’s pretty annoying when most of the reports about a wedding or engagement talk about how everything has to revolve around the birth. I’m not sure if other royal births in the past had the world stop for them. Perhaps nota or LAK could speak to that.
It seems like the opposite of a Middleton plant. Why would they want that? Everything about Charlotte’s birth showed they knew it was a nicer, low-key thing.
Megan leaks like a sieve to all the press. Perhaps she’s getting nervous.
@Handwoven: perhaps Meghan is getting nervous about what?
There’s zero evidence Meghan has ever leaked to the press.
It’s far more likely the majority of the tabloid stuff is speculation and outright “press making stuff up for clicks” just like all the Meghan stories about Pippa’s wedding proved to be.
Why do y’all keep saying Meghan is leaking anything? Nothing have been proven she has…at all. But okay…
No, she doesn’t. She and Harry are on the same page. If Meghan were leaking it would read differently and wouldn’t be about Kate that is for sure. This is all mundane speculation that anyone can make up.
I didn’t sense lower-key from them around Baby #2. CC’s christening was no where near a low-key thing; it far outstretched and out-PR’d the christening of the heir. They were all about the PR of Diana’s Granddaughter.
@ Llamas
I agree!
There seems to be a never-ending list of “events” taking priority over Meghan and Harry’s announcement……first, The Queen and Philips’ anniversary, then the birth of Kate and William’s 3rd baby……..now The Queen’s christmas plans. What next? George’s next scheduled haircut? The Queen’s dogs vet appointments? Pfft!
I agree with everything you said except “Kate Middleton.” After she got married she was no longer “Middleton.” That is literally not her name anymore. Other than that, I so much agree with you.
You and I are on the same page. It made me nuts to hear Diana referred to as “Lady Di” eons after her marriage…
don’t usually comment about them. But she looks very lovely in the header pic. Very pretty.
She’s a KNOCKOUT. I’m girl-crushing on her hard.
My heart can’t take this. I need a win!
Me too. I was so glad the Patton Oswald marriage story was near the Orange Foolius one, because I just can’t right now. I would love this engagement and marriage occur stat. Plus I love that all the nationalists/nazis would wig out. She’s lovely and the entire thing would, and does, bring me joy. There is love in the world.
My god if they keep trying to schedule this announcement around all the other royal goings on it’ll never happen.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL i can only laugh.
It makes sense that they may want to live together, but we can’t wait a year!!!
My hope is that they will make an announcement in December, after the Queen and PP ‘s anniversary.
I agree with you Kaiser, no one cares about Kate’s third baby. Anyway she had been pretty well MIA since the beginning of September.
She’s been “pretty well MIA” since…forever 🙂
Those here who have said this isn’t a done deal and seem rushed were called jealous, tumblr fans, concern trolls. Humph. Seems we were right.
We shall see Maren. Maybe YOU aren’t like that, but there are others who are.
Also, if they want to have children, surely they’re not going to wait a year just to announce. That would make her 38 before they even start trying.
I think they will roll this out in the coming days to take pressure off the paradise papers and the Queen having money offshore in a tax haven. Probably this week is my guess.
Edit: I sort of hope for their sake they do take a few months to just live together. It doesn’t sound like they’ve spent more than a few weeks together at a time.
Good point!
Oooh, @WhatAbout, that makes sense and I hope you’re right!
Yup, something will have to be thrown together quickly to take a bit of heat off the BRF and their dodgy finances.
What if Meghan is wanting the delay? Maybe she has second thoughts about joining a family that does business this way.
Maria,
There’s a reason that two of the supposedly most eligible bachelors in the world haven’t really had women jumping to marry them. That family is poison. Dodgy finances, Weinstein-esque stories waiting to come out, etc.
If Megan were smart she’d run. She can do better. Anyone can.
Handwoven, ITA!! I have such mixed feelings, wanting a real life American princess with no stepford breeding, but thinking Meghan might be making a huge mistake joining this mad house.
My only hope is that something good can come out of it and they are happy. Most women wouldn’t want the scrutiny and control. She isn’t stupid, but If she gets cold feet and runs, then I would understand.
My mother said she thought people should live together first before marriage because there are things you find out about a person only that way.
Thank goodness she didn’t follow her own advice or I wouldn’t be here! Of course, she very likely decided that from her own experience – she married my dad soon after he returned from WWII, he wore his uniform because that was the only suit he had. They were engaged while he was in Europe (his mother, the Dragon Lady, bought the engagement ring).
I asked my aunt after mom died why she married him, there were so many warning signs, or why didn’t she at least wait to get to know him better. They met while he was in basic training and only 17 years old (his doofus parents signed for him to drop out of high school and enlist, and he figured combat was safer than home). So they hardly knew each other and he had been away for several years. My aunt said it was essentially considered your patriotic duty to marry the boys if they returned home alive. Their generation was really traumatized by the war even though it was never on our territory – the newspapers kept listing local men missing in action or killed, and they saw their high school friends picked off one by one.
Ohhhh gawd….I gotta wait for Game of Thrones, now I gotta wait longer for this wedding. What to do…..
I don’t believe it. They need to announce now and get the plans going. It makes no sense to make such a big deal out of Kate’s 3rd baby but Meghan is no spring chicken.
Meghan is a whole few months older then Kate.
I wonder if Meghan has had eggs frozen? Because if I were her, that’s the only way I would be able to be so relaxed about this and willing to kick back for an extra year.
I’m not age-shaming, just being realistic. If I (and my uterus) were going to be the focus of worldwide attention, I’d be nervous at her age. It’s not right that our society is like this in 2017, but it’s the way things are, like it or not. She’s going to be judged no matter what she does or does not do and you know every magazine will have a “bump watch” starting literally the day after their wedding.
Although I guess with all of the terrible sh!t that has already been written about Meghan, she probably has a pretty thick skin at this point.
@Nessa: yes that’s true, but Kate has been married since 2011 and is on her third kid. Plus, Kate knows that she can get pregnant and carry a baby to term. That’s the difference.
You are quite right Lorelai her uterus unfortunately will be the focus of world attention. I think this latest story is rubbish and is to throw people of the scent. Harry “would be wary of appearing to seek to upstage the carefully planned royal Christmas schedule”…this tells me that the story is rubbish. Everytime its Meghan is going to upstage this, Meghan is going to upstage that, some people really are fearful of Meghan. Pippa’s wedding was a right old face.
She is 36 & it’s unlikely she will have menopause tomorrow. My goodness Amil Clooney had twins at 39, her friend Serena just had a baby (same age as Meghan), Halle Berry had 1st child in her 40’s. Janet Jackson had her child in her 50’s.
Unless she have early menopause or some other medical issues (likely unrelated to her age), it’s clear she will be able to have children for a while. Why y’all obsess with her uterus…
@Nessa, I don’t think anyone is saying she should be afraid of menopause. That’s definitely not what I’m saying.
But you need to take into account that there’s still the engagement announcement, then the engagement/wedding planning, then presumably they would want to enjoy at least a little time together, married, before immediately having a child and so she’s what? 38 now when they first start trying? No it’s not impossible but it is harder at that age and can take a lot longer to get pregnant than it would have when she was 20 — and if they want more than one kid (which I think Harry probably does), even more so. I had my first baby at 35 and was already considered “geriatric” and high-risk. I’d be nervous if I were her. That’s all. They’re not normals like us who can start trying whenever they want, regardless of marital status.
Also, no one should be using Janet Jackson’s pregnancy at 50 as some sort of bar…that is an aberration and I think most of us can agree, not realistic (or even desirable!) for most women.
Y’all are assuming they want children.
I get that she is past 35, but she has the means to use medical assistance if it comes down to it. And being an “older” mother – and if she uses IVF – means she will have a higher chance of having twins (which will certainly help if her and Harry plan to have multiple children).
Also, most data about fertility comes from very outdated studies. While we can agree that all fertility declines with age, the extent that it does very much differs for each woman and the complexity of that gets overlooked/ignored. And the concept of “geriatric” or “advanced maternal age” pregnancy comes from the probability of complications arising if the mother is over a certain age; but regardless, most pregnancies of mothers over 35 in countries with advanced healthcare turn out fine.
The truth is that whether we like it or not the world will be obsessing over her uterus, and that is unfortunately a lot of possible psychological and emotional stress on Meghan.
I think Harry would be very open to adoption, so if she feels the same way – they have a backup plan. If Harry wants a big family, they really should consider starting the adoption process early and not worrying about whether she gets pregnant first or not. He really is good with kids.
A big advantage of having the first child be adopted, as long as you intend to go that route anyway, is that you can learn the parental role without the woman being exhausted by pregnancy.
They cannot adopt, for the biggest reason that the child’s life would be made miserable by the press and the anti-fandom for eternity. Either they’d have biological children or they’d have no children.
This. No way are they waiting another year if they want kids. If they’re in love, which they appear to be, no way they don’t get married next summer.
+1000)
Negarive on other means to conceive BRF – Lines to the monarchy.
I agree. Maybe they don’t, but Harry seems like he wants kids, and IF she does, I would imagine she doesn’t want to wait too long.
omg with fertility discussion once again….
A baby and a wedding are both great PR for the BRF, so I guess they may be stacking the events, rather than running them simultaneously, but it’s the third baby. I mean, sure, babies are cute, but a third baby doesn’t trump a royal wedding in my mind. I want to see fancy dresses, crazy hats, and lots and lots of bling.
Oh please! They are not waiting for Kate to pop out her 3rd kid before announcing their plans. I’m with Kaiser. The announcement will happen as soon as Suits wraps up filming in a few weeks.
The whole article is still saying it will be this year or early next year. Lol I can see more so early next year because of the legal aspects. Also I’ve heard stories of Meghan trying to rent out an office in London, ready to set up her own foundation focused on women in need. Either way….we will see.
I feel like that article was written as a way to remind people Prince Harry is the fuck up, not William since the author is Williams friend. While Harry was praised for his obama summit appearance, William have been dragged for his tone deaf speech. But overall the article said nothing, it keep repeating “we don’t know but remember Harry is unfocused & a commitment phobe”.
Also wanted to add this was written before the offshore stuff….sooo….might shift things. Lol
You make good points here! This could definitely be William throwing Harry under the bus and trying to make him look bad to help prop William up (again).
I feel it’s less William & simply the author. I’ve read stuff by him, he seems to dislike Harry & act like he is an alcoholic. The article itself said nothing. They just used his relationship with Meghan to insert those negative past “attributes” in.
Very good catch. It makes sense.
The second “source” does sound more like someone trying to throw Harry under the bus. 33 and two serious relationships (Chelsy, Meghan) plus one public-but-didn’t-seem-serious one (Cressida)? Don’t see how that reads as “serial commitment-phobe” or “love addict”.
Why is everyone obsessed with trying to marry them of a wedding isn’t something you rush into if its meant to be it will happen on there own time using kate as an excuse so people can attack her is getting boring
I find it odd that people say we need this wedding. If it’s meant to happen it will. And it’s really bizarre that any hint of a delay must be Kate’s doing. People are really desperate for there to be drama between Kate and Meghan.
Come on, you know people don’t mean everything so literally. Of course no one “needs” this wedding but this has been such an unbelievably shitty year, everyone just wants a fun, pretty distraction like a royal wedding.
As another commenter said, aside from ribbon cuttings, providing us with gossip and pretty pictures is their only point in 2017.
@ Renee:
Because there will be.
Meghan is a slightly prettier, sexier, edgier version of Kate. But Kate is far more English rose-y.
Which version will win the day?
Eagerly anticipating the upcoming battles in this soap opera.
PS: And people keep bitching about their taxes paying for this?! I would happily pay even £10 a year for access to this channel. 😀 😀 😀
I’ve never been more disturbed by celebrity gossip than the way people talk about this couple. A little too overly invested.
If people are that depressed about the way things in this world are, then perhaps they should find constructive ways to make positive change, instead of crossing fingers for a royal wedding. Monarchies shouldn’t even exist in the 21st Century anyway.
It’s really on here on CB that I read stuff like this. I think most of the public, if they think about them at all, figure “what happens happens, and all in good time.”
These things won’t seem so odd if people could accept the fact that the rf doesn’t think or behave the way we do. They’re people and they’re a family but they are also an institution. They don’t call it The Firm for nothing. With any luck we’ll get a royal wedding and a Trump perp walk at the same time.
I couldn’t care less where the Queen hides her money, but if they don’t move their asses on this Meg + Harry show, it will be rolling pins and pitchforks at dawn. I’m just saying. 😀
Don’t tease us with a twofer. I wouldn’t know what to do with myself.
Listen, the ONLY job these people have aside from cutting ribbons is to provide us with gossip and images of gorgeous weddings and cute babies. If they can’t even do that in times of massive stress …. what are they thinking???
This has to be bs. And … royal iconoclast? Dial it down a bit.
Her Maj is in the crosshairs today for appearing in the Paradise Papers and investing Duchy of Lancaster money in an offshore fund.
So I have decided on a conspiracy theory that they were going to use that money to pay for our flying Elvi but will now have to give it to the exchequer instead.
I like this conspiracy theory – if only to provide some diverting amusement that might stop me from blowing my stack completely – so I’m going to run with it!
I’ve been ignoring the papers, I just don’t give a sh*t today. I don’t know if it’s just fatigue that will go away or if I’m honestly over it. Burn it all down, it’s a nightmare and the only thing I demand is that greedy rich f*cks and sex offenders go first so we can watch.
I just … I mean that got dark really quickly. I don’t even know. I just want that damn wedding and a cookie when I get home.
If QEII thinks she can get out of the tacky wedding Elvi she is WRONG. Find the money. Sell off the Duchess’ coatdresses or something.
I mean, if we can’t have flying Elvi out of 2017, what’s the bleeding point?!
It’s the gd time change. I don’t know where you live, littlemissnaughty, but it affects my life like your first paragraph every time. I feel fatigued and a little bit befuddled. News takes longer to absorb, movements require more energy, energy that seems to have dissipated, words that normally hurt don’t matter as much, appetite wanes, and everything horrible in the news just seems less so, even though it’s not. It used to make my periods heavier, and it lasts about 3 weeks on either side of the change. I’m so tired right now, I hate this.
Good theory Sixer!
Sadly, our Flying Elvi dreams may only be dreams. And this is the 25th anniversary of their appearance in the film Honeymoon in Vegas. Ah well, guess celebrating HM & PP’s 70th anniversary is more important…
@LittleMissNaughty — you nailed it! If they’re going to be so greedy and craven, the least they can do is use some of that money on beautiful weddings and adorable babies for us to ogle. Especially in the garbage year that is 2017.
Can we also talk about the statement Harry made re: royal charities last week about how “turning up once a year isn’t beneficial to anybody?” I thought W, K & H’s whole plan was to minimize the number of engagements, but this statement seems to be priming people for them to start ditching patronages altogether, no?
Ironic since William and Kate literally do not even show up once a year for the majority of their patronages. Even when an event is *in their own home* they often can’t be bothered to walk next door.
I predict Meghan will help Harry’s PR because she is from entertainment and she’s an outsider. He probably doesn’t know how things sound or look to ordinary people. They could be great for Britain’s profile internationally. I don’t think they will worry about what W and K do and will carve out their own identities.
Please hurry!! We need Meghan-infused ginger babies!!!
I never like it when people make fun of Harry being ‘ginger’ , he always takes it in good faith but people with reddish hair must surely understand what people of colour go through..sigh!
I have no problem with a couple deciding to wait and live together before committing to marriage. I did it with my husband for 10 months. Nobody should get married under social pressure. Is not that we still live in the 50’s where living together before marriage was unthinkable.
No way will Meghan and Harry live together for a whole year in KP, without that engagement ring on her finger, and be subjected to even more innuendo, speculation, whispers, potential sabotage etc etc. I don’t think ‘trial marriages’ amount to anything. If everybody decided on trial marriages hardly anyone would commit. Marriage is for better or worse, and you have to take the rough times with the smooth. Anyone who has been married can tell you it takes a lifetime to really understand your partner and so its either that the couple want to make a go of it or not. I expect them to be married by this time next year and by then Meghan may even have a bun in the oven.
Perhaps, but still find it very odd that a sector of the people watching constantly this couple must see them married ASAP. At the end they will take the decision that works better for them and not based on what strangers wish for even if they decide to cohabitate before marriage.
Maybe they aren’t even engaged, and are laughing at how obsessed fans are about when and where the big “announcement” will be made, what month the wedding they might never even have will be, and if they plan it around Kate’s due date. I don’t understand the excitement about this couple
This is bullcrap! Are you kidding me? A whole year to announce a wedding? For a freaking baby no less! Nah fam! That royal source be tripping and smoking on crack.
Honestly, I feel a wedding is on the horizon. And it does make sense to live together first but is that even an option? Won’t that be breaking royal protocol? Bc u can’t live together unless there’s a ring, right?
And honestly, I agree with Kaiser. This smells like Carole Middleton or someone who purely doesn’t want to see Meghan and Harry take the plunge. The world needs a royal wedding rn after the shit ths world itself is experiencing this year. Kate’s baby didn’t save 2017 but a royal wedding COULD! And idu how an engagement can upstage christmas or even Queens 70th anniversary? Like it’s been 70 years, im sure PP and QE2 don’t even know the year they got married lol so I just dont understand.
I feel there will be an announcement end of November or Early December or End of December but nothing beyond that. It’s obvious Megs is going to be at the christmas party and I heard she finishes filming suits in a week so…whats the hold up?
And didn’t W&K announce they’re engagement November 16 2010? Four days before the Queens anny?
Mmmm……
The hold up might simply be legalities…she is a foreigner. I think one paper Prince Harry might fill out, fiancée thing, but they have to marry within 6 months.
There is no way Meghan will be at Sandringham for Christmas, engagement or not. That’s just not how the royals operate. Kate wasn’t even at Sandringham in 2010 when she was engaged.
Why are people so excited for this wedding? It’s just another exorbitant expense, and another distraction from all the other expenses and dodgy dealings the BRF is racking up.
Harry’s dim, tone-deaf, culturally insensitive, ridiculously entitled and until recently, was consistently out-worked by an ill 96yr old. The fact that Meghan’s remotely interested in a man like that really doesn’t suggest she’s going to be some amazing breath of fresh air either. So why the hype?
I’m not excited for it. The only thing I really enjoy about the Royals is the jewelry, and the dogs. That’s all I particularly care for. But I don’t really understand the hype of these two – or the need to make Kate a villain. At the end of the day they’re a bunch of humans who lucked out in life. They were born into the ‘right’ family, or lucky enough to marry into it. Non of them are workaholics, none of them are staggeringly AMAZING humans. They all have faults and nice things about them – but I find the obsession so strange. And hell, for all we know Meghan doesn’t even want children. The obsession with her womb is especially strange to me. I don’t like to put people up on these giant pedestals – it’s just setting yourself up for disappointment when they inevitably do something stupid.
This so much this especially the pedestal part. People on here never hold him accountable for his less then stellar actions or turn a blind eye to it.
Suits wraps up filming Nov 15. I hope Meghan brings Harry home for Thanksgiving and then they make the announcement!
Me too Ashley
I hope she’s frozen some eggs cause by the time they get approval from the palace, she’s gonna be in her 40s. (I kid, but seriously, she’s not in her 20s, the clock is ticking.)
I find the narrative that Meghan somehow only exists to undermine Kate to be harmful to both women.
Carole as a mastermind becomes less believable the more I read about it. If Carole was that good then she would have forced Kate to be doing more events a long time ago to combat all the stories about laziness.
I don’t think the narrative is that Meghan only exists to undermine Kate — we’re only going on what the Middleton women have showed us over the years. All three of them have historically been jealous and catty to other women who they perceive as threats (even Beatrice and Eugenie), and Kate clearly loves being the only woman in that “royal trio” when the three of them do events together. It’s only common sense to assume she’s not thrilled about Meghan because Meghan will steal the spotlight which she’s been used to having on her and her husband and kids for the past seven years. IMHO
I think Kate’s ideal scenario is that Harry remains a bachelor and the “fun uncle” to her kids. Again JMO.
If what William wants is a Kate Middleton who fails in her role and enables him in his laziness, then that is what Kate and Carole Middleton will provide. If William had wanted a woman who would challenge him to be a better man and embrace his role, we’d have seen a very different Kate Middleton for 16 years.
Goes along with the 10 year waiting game of pretending it was everyday Bill not The Prince they really wanted. All the games around Coats of Arms, signet rings, trying to break into society circles? Just pretend those never happened, Bill.
They are only good for having big weddings and scandals other than that they are a waste of money. They’re not even the best looking royal family just the messiest.
They are not remotely the messiest. Read up on the Grimaldis of Monaco.
But except for Caroline, they are not Royal, just serene!
They are not the messiest, you just know more about their messy situations. Just look at Liechtenstein. Whenever there is a possibility of Prince Hans-Adam II not getting his own way he threatens to move to Austria and take the bank with him, which would basically bankrupt Liechtenstein. He won’t even consider the possibility of changing the succession rules to allow women to inherit the throne and since there are many eligible male heirs, they don’t have a looming crisis the way Japan does. Also his youngest brother died in a mysterious and sketchy way and there is a lot innuendo about how he really died.
Loooooool. So funny. I read that story on Daily Beast some days ago and I told myself that when Celebitchy picks the story, everyone would call the story fake news. Any story that doesn’t say Harry and Meghan are engaged and will announce as soon as she wraps up suits is fake news. When Tom Sykes, the author of the story wrote about Meghan’s tea with the Queen and its symbolism, he was praised on this site and Lainey has said repeatedly on her site that he is someone with authentic royal sources and info. Now that he has written about how Harry might wait for one year before marrying Meghan, his story is now ‘planted by Carole Middleton’.
When he wrote on how royal reporters complain about William and Kate’s lazy and stubborn ways, he was praised as someone with genuine royal contacts whose story on Will and Kate was gospel truth, but now, his story was probably planted by the Middleton family. Any negative story on Will and Kate is very true, but any not too wonderful story on Meghan and Harry was planted by Kate and her conniving mother. Looooooooool.
I think a lot of those “Carole as plant” comments here are a little bit tongue in cheek……..maybe don’t take them too seriously?
Did you read the article? They literally come to a conclusion they don’t know anything & they will marry when they marry. Lol
All that article did was pimp out an idea that Harry is unfocused still & love addict but a commitment phobic.
My aunt, who I’ll describe as colorful, declared that “he’s never going to marry her”.
Now I want them married TOMORROW. Yes, that makes me petty but I’m okay with that. I never quite cared before.
I think I found something just as annoying as people (Tumblr folks) shouting about Prince Harry and Meghan not being together, This narrative of evil KM & CM plotting on Meghan or KM getting pregnant just not to work (when she never worked much when she wasn’t preggers so that makes no sense) oh well.
Meg looks great in that photo tho.
Exactly my point. As far as this site is concerned, any whiff of not so wonderful story about MM must have been planted by the Middleton family. Its sad.
Yeah, it gets ridiculous sometimes.
This is likely nonsense. All of these stories about her just randomly moving to UK to chill out with Harry ignore the little inconvenience of immigrations laws. She can’t just move there without a job, what type of visa would she be on? Is she going to leave the country every few months so that she can keep entering of a tourist visa? There are those who are claiming that she’s going to move there and set up shop for her charity work. Again, foreign nationals can’t just move somewhere without gainful employment and the relevant work visas. I can already see the headlines about how she used her royal connections to get some plum position so that she could move to be with Harry and wait for the ring, or how she’s given up her career to sit around and wait for proposal, and everything she does will be construed as campaigning for the job of princess. All of it would be a PR nightmare, especially given the post Brexit focus on who gets to immigrate to the UK and under what circumstances. They’d be setting themselves up for a lot of unnecessary negative press, I sincerely hope they are smarter than that. My money is still on an early December announcement.
@starryfish Hmmm…now you have said this there may be a grain of truth about her coming to the UK to do charity work as a way of getting around immigration rules?? But how soon was Peter Philips wife Autumn, a Canadian able to move to the UK? What is the precedence for this type of thing in royal circles?
Autumn moved with a specific job offer at her company, her job took care of the her visa requirements. So, she was free to move and rent an apartment etc. just like anyone on a work visa in a way that Meghan wouldn’t be.
So these rumours about Meghan using the UK as a base for her charity work is probably a way for her to get her visa requirements sorted out so that she can live in the UK. I am sure Autumn managed to engineer a UK based job with her company so that she could be close to her future husband.
I’m ok with them waiting to announce an engagement. He’s probably very wary of divorce, and his brother and sister in law are no doubt unhappily married (besides witnessing his own parent’s divorce).
Announce in May, have a fall wedding? I don’t know. They need to do what’s right for them.
I wonder if Harry is aware of William’s dalliances? Who does William confide in?
William has a group of friends he still hangs out with… the ski trip being one instance. I bet those guys know the entire story.
The hype is because weve spent the last eighty years being brainwashed that these lot are special were paying 370 million dollars for Buckingham palace despite the fact she gets a yearly grant for upkeep at least we now know where she’s hiding the cash next time thy claim poverty someone needs to bring this up 😂
Wake me when Megsy has the ring and the engagement is announced.
OR……
Maybe they don’t want to be forced to have a Trump at their wedding and they’re holding out for the impeachment timeline!!!
😉
This theory does make sense to me, more so than anything to do with Carole Middleton.
Lool! Geez, the thought of Trump anywhere near the Royals makes me shudder!
Ooooh, A deeper game may be afoot. I like that thought. 45 schlubbing around embarrassing us some more is a disturbing thought.
I doubt that Trump will make it to the U.K. He knows how much he is disliked and I don’t see him winning over the British people any time soon.
Besides, we can always hope that Mueller will take away his passport sometime in the near future…. 🙂
They don’t have to invite Trump. Harry is not the heir, so he doesn’t have to invite politicians unless he wishes to do so. Edward and Sophie’s guest list was basically devoid of politicians.
W&K didn’t have the Obamas at their wedding; Harry wouldn’t be required to have 45 at his. It won’t be an official state occasion.
The VF article was suspicious but I still maintain they will not make it down the aisle.
IF they do, this will be an unhappy marriage on her end. I can’t see how someone who made their way in life is ready to give up her freedom to being micromanaged after one year of dating!
Only people who don’t appreciate the role of the courtiers would have to worry. These are civil servants who WANT (and NEED) the monarchy to survive. If you went in there with the attitude of wanting to accomplish something and being willing to learn from the experts, they’d be at the ready to help and guide.
This story about an offshore account does not come at a good time for HM. Is the British public going to want to celebrate their anniversary in light of this news? My guess is it’ll be a small family affair.
There is no celebration planned for the 70th. HM decided some weeks ago to just do a private family dinner .
The Queen’s finance are not subject to investigation of the British tax office. Because she is the Queen and it has always been that way. Nobody knows how much she earns or owns. She said she paid some kind of payroll tax (?) but nobody can check if she pays it in full because nobody knows how much she earns and owns.
I think the couple wants to wait for their own reasons, whatever they may be.
Living together full time before an engagement makes perfect sense tbh. They shouldn’t rush an important decision like this just because society wants them to get married ASAP to fill a void in their crap-tastic lives.
Hate to break to you- but maybe they are just content to keep dating and not actually get engaged or even married? Sure they look happy together but every single prediction of them announcing an engagement at their 1yr anniversary, then after Invictus, then after Meghan wraps up Suits, then by November…well let’s wait and see.
I don’t buy into this bs we are being fed, but for fun… alternative theory… this is MM and Harry stealing Kate’s baby spotlight by dragging the engagement announcement story. Showcasing both lazy and declining popularity… nah… but someone is thinking that
I don’t care about either of them or their possible wedding.
I still believe that Merkle might just use Harry for fame and publicity. Being a royal girlfriend of mixed heritage.
And then she will dump him and try to continue her movie career.
Sorry, I can’t wait that long. It has to be now.
I’ve lost the will to live!! 🙂
I don’t understand how everyone can be so sure these two will get married at all?
I can much more easily believe that Harry is a “serial commitment-phobe” than that he is getting engaged anytime soon to MM. Also, she is getting up there in age for trying to get pregnant for the first time. I have three kids and easily got pregnant when I was under 35, but after 35 it is really a struggle. It probably won’t matter that much to her because she’ll be able to get medical help getting pregnant, like other older celebrities have (Amal Clooney f. ex. very likely had help in getting pregnant with twins, too much of a coincidence getting pregnant at 39 with twins and at such an unhealthily low weight as she was – getting pregnant when you’re emaciated is so hard). What I’m saying is I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Harry moves on from MM in a few years and eventually when he’s much older and starting to realize life is short, finds a much younger woman to settle down and have some heirs with. He just strikes me as that kind of man.
Agree. He was recently quoted in a Canadian magazine saying that he would take his time.
He’s 33 and has had two serious relationships in his life (Chelsy, Meghan) and one didn’t-seem-serious one (Cressida). I don’t see serial commitment-phobe here, nor do I see desperate love-addict. He has spoken in the past 5 years about 1) wanting to get married and have kids and 2) needing to find a person who is right for him and right for the job. Maybe this is that person, maybe she isn’t. Either way, I don’t see her waiting 10 years for a ring.
Carol is turning into a real Dina Lohan, and guess what I’m LIVING for it
Ha! Delaying tactics mean…..NOPE not happening.
Am I utterly horrible if I mention that if they know they definitely want kids, as Harry’s said about himself, sooner might be better than later? I wish they’d announce their engagement as soon as possible, because I need some happy news!
Good idea to wait. With an ocean between them they don’t spend enough time together to marry after a year of dating. Best to take these decisions slowly.
Rania and Abdullah II met in January 1993, married in June 1993, happily married 2+ decades. What is right for one couple may not be right for another. We’ll just have to wait and see what decision these two make.
It’s possible that this has to do with her converting to the Anglican church, which can take several months. That or there is trouble in paradise.